[00:19] bah, shold have looked harder for your nick aisrael [00:19] I was trying to tab complete stone and ar [00:19] not sure what I thought the second one was lol [00:49] hey. aisrael welcome. saw your response above as: madam, I'm adam [01:31] cmaloney: Duanne overdosed on heroine I'm not sure if I'd call that bucking the trend. [01:31] cmaloney: some of their best material is after he is gone :( [03:25] jrwren_: Kind of my point, though Dwayne did mark a turning point for the band [11:24] morning [11:24] and such [13:37] jrwren_: You bought a $60 Android tablet and expect it to be a good device representative of Android? [13:58] good morning [13:58] Who wouldn't? :) [14:01] I just read the article on Windows 8 with Bing. They run everything from compressed images, on slow CPUs with 1GB RAM?! [14:01] http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-fights-android-and-chrome-os-with-dirt-cheap-windows-8-1-pcs-and-tablets-7000033274/ [14:02] Most likely from low end flash RAM that gets slower over time [14:02] flash memory [14:03] yes. [14:03] why wouldn't it? [14:03] I can buy the cheapest apple iOS tablet and it is an excellent repreentation of iOS. [14:03] You are being silly [14:03] brousch_: I know :) [14:04] I really should try a $300 android tab for comparison. [14:04] But now i kind of want this Windows tablet to see if it actually runs at all [14:04] can't compare software... have to compare products at same price points. [14:05] And how do updates apply to the compressed system images? [14:05] It would be a miraculous feat of engineering if it actually worked [14:07] agreed. [14:08] I really need someone to teach me how to use android some day. [14:08] because, for me, its harder to use than emacs [14:10] I have an iphone user transitioning to Android right now. So far no problems [14:10] I was surprised as he was a fairly gung-ho Apple guy [14:12] brousch_: maybe 4.1 was extra bad. [14:12] brousch_: I can't find apps. They get installed, adn tehy show up 20 pages to the right on the "desktop" [14:12] UNUSABLE! [14:12] I really don't even remember 4.1. I went 2.3 to 4.03 to 4.2+ [14:13] it might not even be 4.1 [14:14] Well all of the apps are in the app drawer. How that's sorted depends on what your manufacturer decided to use [14:14] http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Sirius-S702-R1B-2-7-Inch-Tablet/dp/B00CWKVJOW%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00CWKVJOW [14:14] yup, 4.1 [14:14] *sigh* app drawer... sometimes I remember how to find that. sometimes I don't. [14:15] usually it's the middle icon on the bottom row of every home screen [14:15] I should stop my bitching and root the thing. [14:16] though it is possible to delete it. then the default physical button will usually open it too [14:16] hm, maybe not [14:17] jrwren_: You should be running Ubuntu Touch! [14:17] brousch_: if I knew how to install it on there, I would. [14:22] I feel like it's taking a long time to become available [14:32] geez, you folks are wordy this morning. [14:33] Its friday. [14:33] :P [14:33] jrwren_ got me all worked up [14:33] brousch_ loves the android. I don't even understand it. [14:34] I like Android. It's not perfect, but it's sort-of Linux in everyone's pocket [14:34] I would prefer a full OS, exspecially on tablets [14:34] The 'x' is for 'extra'! [14:36] hahaha, thanks for calling it "sort-of Linux" :) [14:37] Its Linux in that its a fork of the kernel, only. Beyond that kernel fork it has almost nothing else in common with other Linux distros. [14:37] It's Linux, Jay, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it. [14:37] brousch_: if that is a star wreck reference, you have made my day. [14:37] :-D [14:38] There's Klingons off the starboard bow... scrape 'em off captain. [14:41] hm, there's an x86 emulator image for Ubuntu touch. I don't remember that before [14:42] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE [14:42] That's the reference ^^ [14:49] brousch_++ [14:49] OMG, it's on YouTube? [14:51] I'm sorry I watched that. It sounded much better in my memory with Nostalgia™ enhancement. [14:51] cmaloney: i thought that song was used in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck [14:53] wolfger: I think it was remixed / enhanced on the Doctor Demento disc I have. [14:56] I only know it from youtube [16:42] Teenager arrested for making pot brownies faces possible life sentence. A rich old man named Ilitch is busted for felony cocaine possession, winds up with probation and rehab. God bless the United States of Money Worshipping. [16:42] move to CA, WA, or CO where we respect your pursuit of happiness [16:43] Nah. Not me. Beer's legal everywhere. I'm good. :-) [16:43] :) [16:44] Weed's safer than alcohol ;) [16:44] so I hear. But I like drinking a lot more than I like smoking. [16:44] * greg-g nods [16:44] And I like brewing a lot more than I like farming. [16:44] as a respectable upstanding citizen, I do neither anymore, really [16:49] you don't grow your own barley? [16:53] no, although I have thought about malting my own barley [16:54] I decided it's best for the beer if I let the pros do the malting, and best for my pocketbook if I let the pros do the farming [16:54] wolfger: really?!? [17:00] really to which part? Buying grain is much cheaper than buying farmland and equipment, yes. [17:01] [17:01] Also, I would then be limited to making beer after harvest :-p [17:01] says the guy who had honey bunches of oats this morning for breakfast (thanks work kitchen) [17:02] I'd even be willing to pay a little more to support a local barley farm, but.... there's still the malting issue. There is one malthouse I know of in Michigan. I need to contact them again. [17:17] [17:17] define "paleo" ;) [17:17] means very different things to different people, but yeah, less processed food == good :) [17:18] I define paleo as the people who use it as a modified Atkins diet. [17:18] that's still too broad of a category, but ok ;) [17:19] because "modified atkins" can just mean "anything that says limit carbs" [17:19] I'm being glib as well [17:19] which is, well, a bunch of modern science and part of most healthy diets ;) [17:19] cmaloney: when aren't you? ;) [17:19] just don't be Gib, that'd be mean to take over that role. [17:20] hah [17:20] Well, on NPR... [17:20] I dunno. I tend to think of most mass diets with a lot of skepticism [17:21] like when everyone was eating cabbage soup [17:21] or Atkins [17:21] define "mass diet" ;) I mean, the main mass diet is "too much soda, too much sugar, too much tv, too little moving" [17:22] mass diet: Anything you can find on a Wikipedia page with a lengthy talkback section on how it's all rubbish. ;) [17:22] And yes, I think the "American" diet is rubbish as well [17:22] In other words, all diets that weren't made up by Aunt Marge [17:22] honestly, the wikipedians who fit into the "skeptic" tag are sometimes really just massive assholes, but... [17:23] greg-g: Agreed [17:23] you try to tone down the vitriol and you get slaped in the face [17:23] I'm all for science and debunking shit, but being an ass is just, dumb ;) [17:23] pretty much any forum where people play "pick and choose" with their facts. [17:23] yep [17:23] ok, time for meeting prep, laterz! [17:24] laterness. [17:24] (also, partial outage I'm watching ;) ) [17:24] out css/js/static server cluster isn't happy [17:24] our* [17:24] ugh [17:24] Tell everyone to use gopher in the interim [17:49] greg-g: wtff??? insert paleo response??? but you eat meat??? wtf do you think the meat you just ate eats? [17:49] jrwren_: not corn [17:49] not wheat [17:50] grass [17:50] paleo: a word that means I can eat whatever i want, while being judgemental of everything else everyone else eats. [17:50] rick_h_: I'm finding it pretty hard not to bat the Markdown folks with Restructured Text. :) [17:51] those people already did that, now they just have an affinity group to join ;) [17:51] s/bat/bait/ [17:51] greg-g: what meat did you eat that wasn't fed corn or some other big agg grain crop? [17:52] jrwren_: you know cows existed before big ag grain did, right? [17:52] jrwren_: 100% grass feed cow [17:53] greg-g: hahahahahaha. [17:53] greg-g: you realize corn is a grass? [17:53] yes, but they aren't fed corn [17:53] greg-g: I can feed cows nothing but corn on a feed lot and it will be 100% grass fed. [17:53] jrwren_: sure, but I know my rancher(s) [17:53] greg-g: that rules. I wish I knew some. [17:54] probably 90% of carrie's calories come from people we talk to once a week [17:54] I'm less than that because I'm not really consistent and eat out at work [17:54] (carrie and rowan's) [17:55] you are even bigger local eaters than we are. [17:55] so jealous. [17:56] then again.. you talk to the people when you eat out and they bring you your food, so all those calaries come from people you talk to. [17:58] I can barely talk to the cashier at the checkout. [17:58] That's enough social interaction. ;) [18:01] I always say "burito please" to the person at chipotle [18:07] I point and grunt. I don't want to know where my food came from [18:07] I still think about your son thinking animals GAVE us meat. [18:08] I think it was more like they were making it, like in a factory [18:08] chicken nuggets: nuggets made by chickens [18:08] Perfectly logical [18:09] Maybe too much wallace and grommit [18:18] hahaha [18:42] jrwren_: :) "can I have a #2 with turkey" doesn't count ;) [18:47] mmm... now I want a burito [18:48] and also... a farm... kinda. [18:53] :) ditto on both ;) [20:00] cmaloney: Got my ass handed to me by a random on Go [20:06] !w [20:12] brousch_: fun fun. :) [20:12] I have yet to play folks on Dragon Go Server [20:13] (random) [20:13] I did well early on, but he surrounded me and I could not escape [20:13] Similar to how you beat me last time [20:21] Yeah, I don't think I'm able to repeat that on the 13x13 board. :) [20:23] Maybe not this time [20:23] This random game was 13x13