[02:50] <james0r> bought a nvidia geforce 210 card, installed the newest proprietary drivers and although everything runs pretty well the glmark2 rating is a lot lower than what i get if i run it with my integrated intel video.
[03:16] <TruKr> Is there anyone here?
[03:17] <ObrienDave> nope
[03:17] <TruKr> Oh,OK
[03:17] <ObrienDave> greetings & welcome
[03:17] <TruKr> :)
[03:19] <TruKr> I am, well, a noob I guess, I just installed this yesterday, well just because.  I tried to install catlist for my amd gpu, but it says I need to be superuser?
[03:20] <TruKr> I found something about it, in terminal window I can get it to show root, but on the desktop the installer still says I should be this super user.
[03:20] <ObrienDave> add 'sudo' to front. type in your password when prompted
[03:21] <ObrienDave> try not to run terminal in root mode. dangerous for new users
[03:22] <TruKr> only place I found to do so, if I log  out, I can not log in as root
[03:23] <ObrienDave> because there is no root password in Ubuntu
[03:23] <ObrienDave> !root
[03:24] <TruKr> but add sudo to front?  It has been years so I am a windoze dummy now
[03:24] <ObrienDave> yes, sudo apt-get install <package>
[03:25] <ObrienDave> try this, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:25] <ObrienDave> copy and paste to terminal
[03:27] <TruKr> Oh, OK will do
[03:27] <ObrienDave> i run those commands every day to keep system updated
[03:29] <ObrienDave> the && is a logical 'trap' to prevent following commands from executing if the previous one fails
[03:30] <TruKr> OK, uhhh, that did a lot of stuff, too fast to read, what did I do?
[03:31] <ObrienDave> updated repo info and then upgraded all installed packages to latest versions
[04:06] <e87hd> I am still getting weird locked screen issues
[04:07] <e87hd> I have recently changed to a proprietary driver for my nvidia card
[04:07] <e87hd> I did that to try and fix the issue
[04:07] <e87hd> but it is still happening
[04:07] <e87hd> has anyone seen this sort of thing before?
[04:07] <holstein> e87hd: you can try the vesa driver.. but, it could also be hardware related
[04:08] <holstein> e87hd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 i would just put it in place "as-is" and see if you can make the issue happen
[04:08] <holstein> when you mentioned it before, you made it seem like it happened rarely, and it may be difficult to trigger. i would also be interested in seeing the hardware in an officially supproted operating system, to see that its not malfuctioning
[04:10] <ObrienDave> someone suggested this earlier; mattxtn> followed posts 7 and 16 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1357090
[04:10] <ObrienDave> sorry if it's not the correct issue
[04:11] <e87hd> well it seems to be happening almost every time now
[04:11] <e87hd> I will take a picture of it next time with my phone
[04:11] <e87hd> seems that it is different each time what is on the screen
[04:11] <holstein> e87hd: so, worse with the proprietary driver, then? the driver *did* seem to effect the issue?
[04:11] <e87hd> yes
[04:11] <e87hd> not worse, or better
[04:11] <e87hd> just messed up differently
[04:12] <holstein> e87hd: there are other drivers... but, i think it still could be the hardware failing.. how is it with the vesa driver?
[04:12] <e87hd> either way, as soon as I enter my passwd and hit enter, it unlocks and works normally
[04:12] <e87hd> I have not tried the vesa driver
[04:12] <holstein> e87hd: ok.. im not following the issue.. you mean, its *just* on the lock screen?
[04:13] <e87hd> yes
[04:13] <e87hd> ok
[04:13] <e87hd> i just locked my screen
[04:13] <e87hd> and it did it again
[04:13] <e87hd> i took a picture
[04:14] <e87hd> hold on
[04:14] <holstein> e87hd: i would just *not* lock the screen, then
[04:14] <holstein> e87hd: i would keep in mind, you were not promised driver support for linux by the manufacturer of the hardware, and just file a bug report, and work with the issue. i thought it was on the regular desktop
[04:14] <holstein> !bug
[04:15] <holstein> i mean, i see fiddly things like that all the time, on all the devices i run operating systems on that were not promised to support that operating system
[04:15] <e87hd> http://imgur.com/2L5bVOs
[04:16] <e87hd> ok
[04:16] <holstein> right. i would just *not* lock my screen.. i would just remove that locker, and use xtrlock or something else
[04:16] <holstein> !info xtrlock
[04:17] <e87hd> ok
[04:34] <e87hd> holstein, you ever hear from that guy again about backups?
[04:35] <holstein> e87hd: hmm... i dont think so..
[09:17] <james0r> added the xubuntu staging repo and updated yesterday, just noticing now that the power manager no longer has an option to display icon in system tray. where would this be handled?
[09:19] <james0r> ahh i see there is a new power manager plugin now that takes its place. even better. well done.
[09:20] <james0r> consolidates my notebook power and wireless mouse power into one too, very nice.
[09:38] <akis> hi all. does anyone know why panel's software reminder is missing on 14.04?
[09:42] <akis> i mean panel's update software reminder. This one which under 12.04 was like an orange star.
[09:43] <akis> no pop-up reminder also for update software when updates are available.
[09:43] <akis> any opinion or solution on this?
[09:50] <koegs> akis: did you check the autostart-settings?
[09:51] <akis> koegs: where can i find this?
[09:51] <koegs> Settings > Session and Startup > App Autostart
[09:51] <koegs> name should be something like "Update Notifier"
[09:52] <akis> koegs, i am looking to...
[09:54] <akis> koegs: it is already enabled (by default)!
[09:55] <koegs> then i am already out of ideas :)
[09:57] <akis> koegs: but it seems that it doesnt work. righti now while we are chating the system asked for an update (menu editor) and doesnt open any pop-up, either showed the orange star on notification area but only opened a new window button next to other open applications windows.
[10:09] <akis> koegs: hmmm have a look here, they report the problem since 13.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1246364
[10:12] <akis> why the 'update-notifier' remains ticked in 'app-autostart' in current version (14.04) if it doesn't work since 13.10 was out?
[10:26] <brainwash> akis: don't you get update notifications (popup window)?
[10:27] <akis> brainwash: no. either the icon on panel. only minimize windows, as it is described on bug's report. under 12.04 everything worked excellent.
[10:28] <brainwash> so the update-notifier autostart entry most likely triggers the minimized windows then
[10:28] <akis> brainwash: nand if it is a decision to stop notification why it is left the 'update-notifier' ticked by default inside 'app-autostart'?
[10:29] <akis> brainwash: maybe it is an explanation. i didn't understand it like this.
[10:31] <brainwash> only the tray icon is gone
[10:33] <brainwash> now you get a window instead
[10:34] <brainwash> the update-notifier is maintained by the ubuntu/unity devs, sadly it does not look like they will bring back the old tray icon functionality
[10:38] <akis> brainwash: thank you for this explanation. i will miss the tray icon!
[11:36] <cfhowlett> where are the sound files located in xubuntu???
[11:36] <cfhowlett> i.e. system sounds
[11:37] <slickymasterWork> cfhowlett, do you mean for event sounds?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> slickymasterWork, yeah, just found them.  thanks
[11:41] <slickymasterWork> np cfhowlett
[11:46] <AlexRussia> hi folks.I have problem with mount 3Q external hard drive to my system(its not display as device).What i could to do?
[11:47] <bazhang> !blkid
[11:49] <AlexRussia> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8259031/plain/
[11:56] <AlexRussia> bazhang, something new? @_@
[11:56] <bazhang> patience AlexRussia
[11:57] <AlexRussia> bazhang, this is not my better part ;)
[11:57] <bazhang> AlexRussia, wait for someone who can help, you may also post on askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums
[11:59] <AlexRussia> bazhang, so, you just do not know why its do not exist as device?
[12:00] <bazhang> AlexRussia, please ask the channel every 10-15 minutes, and wait patiently for a response
[12:01] <AlexRussia> bazhang, this is your exclusive way to do nothing? @_@
[12:02] <knome> AlexRussia, please remember we are all volunteers here and please adjustyour attitude accordingly.
[12:04] <AlexRussia> knome, please remember i am are not you
[12:06] <knome> AlexRussia, if you can't follow the channel guidelines, you should leave the channel and use other methods to get help.
[12:07] <AlexRussia> knome, my help methods is move my drive with your iso in start to my external hd which can't be mount.and after it all i'll never come back to here
[12:11] <knome> AlexRussia, okay... have fun.
[12:11] <AlexRussia> knome, do you think is fun? you are crazy.
[12:12] <cfhowlett> !patience | AlexRussia, for instant answers, purchase a support package from canonical.  otherwise, please wait PATIENTLY.
[12:13] <AlexRussia> >purchase a support package from canonical
[12:14] <AlexRussia> yes, probability if i had arch iso, support may be better....
[12:14] <knome> AlexRussia, you are free to use arch. please do not let us stop you from doing so
[12:15] <AlexRussia> knome, i free.but i am not sure i don't rewrite my mbr again :(
[12:15] <cfhowlett> AlexRussia, www.archlinux.org
[12:15] <AlexRussia> cfhowlett, #archlinux ;)
[12:15] <knome> AlexRussia, maybe there's a language barrier, you can ask in a local channel:
[12:15] <knome> !ru | AlexRussia
[12:16] <AlexRussia> knome, ...and???
[12:16] <AlexRussia> knome, nothing happen ;)
[12:17] <knome> AlexRussia, #ubuntu-ru
[12:17] <AlexRussia> ah
[12:17] <AlexRussia> knome, ubottu are your bot?
[12:17] <knome> AlexRussia, ubottu is a bot, i am not.
[12:18] <AlexRussia> knome, its too slow bot ;)
[12:18] <knome> it's lagging right now. now please let's stay with the support questions.
[12:27] <AlexRussia> knome, i am sorry, problem probability not in  system, but in device.My friend check it use him window(8) and its do not even seen as device :(
[12:28] <cfhowlett> efi / uefi issues is my bet
[13:23] <garandil> Is there any quick way to change to runlevel 3 and ommitt the startup of GUI in Xubuntu 14.04?
[13:27] <brainwash> http://askubuntu.com/questions/228402/boot-to-runlevel-3
[13:27] <brainwash> and http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode
[13:27] <brainwash> ^ garandil
[13:28] <garandil> brainwash, sweet!
[13:32] <e87hd> I had a similar issue AlexRussia
[13:33] <e87hd> if you are still having an issue
[13:33] <AlexRussia> e87hd, i still have issue
[13:33] <e87hd> were you having issues with dual boot/efi/windows 8?
[13:33] <AlexRussia> e87hd, i even have drive which i returb back tomorrow
[13:33] <AlexRussia> return*
[13:33] <AlexRussia> e87hd, no, windows 8 was from my friend
[13:33] <e87hd> oh, its a bad drive? So a hardware problem
[13:34] <e87hd> oh, ok
[13:34] <AlexRussia> e87hd, i have only xubuntu right now....it sounds like crap
[13:34] <e87hd> I misunderstood
[13:34] <AlexRussia> e87hd, i guess, its the design problem
[13:34] <AlexRussia> e87hd, oh hardware, yes
[13:34] <AlexRussia> e87hd, but the drive part i guess
[13:34] <e87hd> what kind of hard drive?
[13:35] <AlexRussia> e87hd, what do you mean?
[13:44] <e87hd> who is the manufacturer?
[13:44] <e87hd> seagate? Western Digital?
[13:44] <AlexRussia> e87hd, i guess, 3Q
[13:45] <e87hd> hmm, I have not heard of them before
[13:45] <AlexRussia> e87hd, same here
[14:02] <AlexRussia> e87hd, do you think, toshiba is good choise?
[14:02] <AlexRussia> choice*
[14:02] <e87hd> I don't know. I have not used them before
[14:02] <e87hd> I can tell you, do not get Maxtor
[14:02] <e87hd> those are the worst hard drives!
[14:02] <e87hd> I believe the best hard drives are Hitatchi, Seagate and Western Digital
[14:02] <e87hd> I have had great success with those
[14:02] <AlexRussia> e87hd, what about seagate?(i've seen one)
[14:02] <e87hd> I have this drive http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST2000DM001/dp/B005T3GRN2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409924732&sr=8-1&keywords=seagate+2tb
[14:02] <e87hd> been a great drive for me
[14:16] <AlexRussia> e87hd, what about this one? www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBb17OS-dws&list=PL715D058C40B8E9FE&index=5
[14:17] <AlexRussia> daaaaaaaaammit
[14:17] <AlexRussia> e87hd, http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Portable-External-STBX1000101/dp/B008R7FC74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409925018&sr=8-1&keywords=Seagate+Expansion+portable+drive
[14:29] <AlexRussia> e87hd, man?
[15:23] <xubuntu087> is there a way to access my xubuntu machine remotely like RDP or VNC or something?
[15:24] <Hedgework> of course.  Set up VNC or SSH or whatever you like.
[15:24] <xubuntu087> I want to be able to access my thunderbird and stuff
[15:24] <xubuntu087> I have heard of X11, would that work for thunderbird over SSH?
[15:26] <Hedgework> I don't know why X11 forwarding wouldn't work, but I don't have personal experience with it.  I use ssh for everyday stuff and VNC for demos.
[15:27] <xubuntu087> I need to learn more about that
[15:27] <xubuntu087> I would imagine that there are certain programs that would not work with X11
[15:29] <Hedgework> It's called X11 forwarding because it was a feature of Xorg's predecessor, which probably existis in Xorg...given that you are using an Xorg-based gui (xfce4), I'd be shocked if any of your gui apps don't work with it.
[15:38] <xubuntu087> such an awesome feature
[15:39] <Hedgework> :)
[15:39] <xubuntu087> I don't know why Windows would not use something like that
[15:40] <Hedgework> They have one, they just charge you hundreds if not thousands of dollars for the privilege.  I used theirs when I worked for a military contractor circa 2003.
[15:40] <Hedgework> (Mind you, it's nearly impossible to secure their version...but that's another argument for another day, and for all they know it may have improved in the last decade.)
[15:41] <xubuntu087> I did not know that
[15:41] <xubuntu087> what is it called in Windows?
[15:41] <Hedgework> ummm...I forget...that was ages ago
[16:25] <threedaymonk> I'm tearing my hair out over power management with 14.04, logind, and xfce4-power-manager. What I'd like is to have suspend on lid close if (and only if) I'm on battery. What's the correct combination of logind and xfce4-power-manager settings to get this to actually work (as I've configured it within the power manager)?
[16:36] <brainwash> threedaymonk: this comment may be helpful https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1349056/comments/5
[16:38] <threedaymonk> brainwash: thanks! I'll try that.
[16:42] <xubuntu087> i am trying to get help with an issue with play on linux, but their support is non responsive atm. Does anyone in here know anything about play on linux?
[16:42] <brainwash> xubuntu087: well, describe your problem
[16:43] <brainwash> there is also #winehq
[16:43] <brainwash> the wine channel
[16:44] <xubuntu087> oh, I can try that
[16:44] <threedaymonk> brainwash: well, that's solved that problem, so thank you. But now I have another one: lock screen on suspend doesn't!
[16:44] <xubuntu087> getting this error when I try to install mp3tag
[16:44] <xubuntu087> http://imgur.com/tYXze3c
[16:46] <brainwash> xubuntu087: I guess you have to contact the PoL devs, there should be some form of bug tracker or dev forum
[16:46] <xubuntu087> I figured as much
[16:47] <brainwash> threedaymonk: that's odd, is locking enabled in the power manager settings window?
[16:47] <holstein> !info mp4tag
[16:47] <holstein> !info mp3tag
[16:48] <brainwash> that's a window program I think
[16:48] <brainwash> windows
[16:48] <holstein> xubuntu087: have you tried a native linux mp3 tagging application?
[16:48] <holstein> i suggest trying as much native code as possible.. especially for simpler tasks like that..
[16:49] <holstein> !info easytag
[16:49] <threedaymonk> brainwash: yes: [x] Lock screen when going for suspend/hibernate
[16:50] <threedaymonk> Doesn't lock if I use the suspend option from the power manager menu, either.
[16:50] <brainwash> threedaymonk: is the light-locker process still running the background?
[16:51] <threedaymonk> brainwash: yes
[16:51] <brainwash> actually, this can be easily tested if you manually trigger the screen lock
[16:51] <brainwash> does that work?
[16:51] <threedaymonk> that works
[16:51] <brainwash> mmh :/
[16:52] <threedaymonk> I feel like I'm at the intersection of at least three different bugs here :-)
[16:52] <threedaymonk> and I can get at least two of the things I want to work
[16:52] <brainwash> you just cannot solve all of them :>
[16:53] <holstein> i would probably just disable automatic everything, and just sleep manually when i want.. or lock manually.. etc
[16:53] <threedaymonk> I will forget and cook my laptop in short order
[16:53] <holstein> sure.. thats why i just have it sleep regardless.. and even then, used to be, sometimes they wouldnt sleep
[16:54] <holstein> its actually not a good idea, for air flow, to have the machine on with the lid closed.. some apple machines simply dont allow that from a hardware perspective
[16:54] <threedaymonk> I had everything working fine with 13.10, though (after changing logind.conf ...) though, so this is a painful regression
[16:55] <brainwash> there might be something messed up in the code after the last power manager update
[16:55] <threedaymonk> apple machines are designed at (or often beyond) the parameters of sane thermal design, though :-)
[16:56] <threedaymonk> brainwash: I fear that
[16:56] <holstein> threedaymonk: sure. but, the idea of having the machine on, and when plugged in, shutting the lid, and it doesnt sleep is, as i see it, not a good idea
[16:56] <threedaymonk> well, that's your opinion, and that's fine, but it's been working for me.
[16:56] <threedaymonk> and it's what I want to do
[16:56] <holstein> well, thats the opinion of many manufacturers, as well
[16:57] <brainwash> threedaymonk: feel free to file a bug report against xfce4-power-manager, simply run the terminal command "ubuntu-bug xfce4-power-manager"
[16:58] <threedaymonk> will do
[16:58] <brainwash> don't forget to mention all the settings which were changed
[16:58] <brainwash> like logind.conf
[21:35] <xebra> hi, does xubuntu accept icon sets made up of svg images? I see every icon set is just a bunch of png
[21:36] <xebra> I wonder if you can just use one svg for each icon, which will then be scaled to the appropriate sizes
[21:55] <SenorSenpai> Hello wondered if someone can help me. I'm trying to install Xubuntu onto my 2013 iMac 14,2. Booted a USB pen and installed the system to an external drive, however when I reboot the drive doesnt show up as bootable in the boot chooser. Any idea what I can do to boot into my newly installed system? Thanks