[00:18] <Ponyo> Hi there, I just tried to install a charm and I have an error.  How do I look at the details of the error? http://hastebin.com/apuzupizuf.sm
[00:21] <sarnold> Ponyo: hmm, it seems odd to me that you're in /root but logged in as 'juju' -- are the configs in ~juju/.juju/ or ~root/.juju/ ?
[00:21] <Ponyo> ~juju/.juju
[00:21] <Ponyo> it's just me being lazy
[00:21] <sarnold> ahokay :)
[00:22] <Ponyo> notice juju@juju
[00:22] <Ponyo> only root can read/write /root
[00:49] <lazyPower> Ponyo: when a charme rrors, there's a few options
[00:49] <lazyPower> 1) you can juju debug-log and see if the traceback is in there, but what i find really handy is launching a debug-hooks session.
[00:49] <lazyPower> juju debug-hooks meteor/0
[00:50] <lazyPower> this will open a tmux session attached to the charm - but wont be very interesting
[00:50] <lazyPower> you'll need to open another terminal, and issue 'juju resolved -r meteor/0'
[00:50] <lazyPower> that will tell juju to re-execute teh last failed hook on the service, which you'll notice gets trapped in your tmux session
[00:50] <Ponyo> stby
[00:50] <lazyPower> now you can run the hooks manually and debug the environment to see why it failed.
[00:58] <lazyPower> Ponyo: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-hook-debug.html  - as well as http://youtu.be/75gKKnv_ze8?t=16m8s
[00:58] <lazyPower> that covers debug-hooks both in text, and another live example in a troubleshooting charm school
[15:31] <JoshStrobl> hey marcoceppi, I noticed the https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/charm-review-process.html doc isn't rendering "notes" markdown (!!! Note:). I compared it with the Juju wiki page for Markdown and noticed that it does in fact match. I checked out https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-charm-quality.html and it has a working Note, but using a patch I submitted a while back that changed it to **Note: **. Is !!! Note: broken, is there not
[15:31] <JoshStrobl> meant to be a space between !!! and Note, etc.
[15:41] <JoshStrobl> marcoceppi, I also noticed the patch that mbruzek did at https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/152/files (charms-working-with-units.md) and (howto-offline-charms) to revert some of my **Note: ** changes does break in the juju.ubuntu.com docs. would you be OK with me filing an issue about the broken !!! Note: and doing a temporary patch of the botched files until the issue is resolved?
[15:57] <JoshStrobl> doc bug filed: https://github.com/juju/docs/issues/159
[21:20] <tvansteenburgh> fuzzy: you are the fuzzy who emailed me about the meteor charm?
[21:26] <fuzzy> ep
[21:26] <fuzzy> yep
[21:27] <tvansteenburgh> ok cool. i figured out the problem, just gotta get it reviewed and updated in the store
[21:27] <fuzzy> np
[21:28] <fuzzy> In the future would you prefer that as a github issue?
[21:31] <tvansteenburgh> fuzzy: sure, that'd be great