[01:16] <klinton> hello. I am having an issue with wifi on lubuntu 14.04
[01:18] <klinton> the problem is that it won't give me the option to connect to wifi as if I don't even have a wifi card. also I am unable to enable the card under additional drivers.
[01:20] <klinton> do I need to run an apt-get for drivers? If so what's the command because it's been forever since i've had to do that. not since natty narwall
[01:21] <klinton> i am using a generic broadcom/realtek wifi adapter in an acer aspire 5517 laptop
[09:03] <Janusz> Hello.
[13:15] <Aikilox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/520757/ethernet-network-disconnected-wireless-working
[13:16] <Aikilox> if anybody can answer to this, please
[13:16] <Aikilox> thank you
[13:22] <testdr> Aikilox: too less information - that could be the framesize - and last, you have to be more spezific what is "disconnecting"? Something like plugout the cabel?
[13:24] <Aikilox> it is not disconneting
[13:24] <Aikilox> it is disconnected
[13:25] <Aikilox> wireless is working tough
[13:26] <testdr> Aikilox: again - that is no information, because that is the same like using no twisted-pair-cable. You have to check whether the hardware was identified, - things like MAC-address, chipset and so on
[13:28] <testdr> Aikilox: some routers have lamps/LED at the ports for the cable-connections, you should check those too
[13:30] <testdr> Aikilox: if you moved from one place to another - maybe you used fixed ip-address or the new location needs it
[13:32] <Aikilox> automatic dhcp with ips
[13:32] <Aikilox> ethernet led is not flickering
[13:32] <Aikilox> ofcourse
[13:33] <testdr> Aikilox: you can delete the file    /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistend-net.rules        and reboot to let the system re-configure the network-settings with plugged in cable
[13:33] <testdr> Aikilox: but this will only help if the hardware really did work before -- in your old home
[13:34] <testdr> Aikilox: but the ethernet-led at the router-port where you plugged in the cable from your comupter is on?
[13:36] <testdr> Aikilox: i had a spelling error in the filename   s/d/t/
[13:38] <Aikilox> not working still
[13:38] <testdr> Aikilox: you said it works with windows = same computer, same cable, same router?
[13:41] <Aikilox> yes, correct
[14:00] <testdr> Aikilox: and what entries are in your networkconfiguration? Only the wireless?
[14:24] <Guest32517> msg NickServ ghost talsamon talsamanon
[14:24] <Guest32517> msg NickServ release talsamon talsamanon
[14:24] <Guest32517> sorry
[15:54] <switchtehbeat> how to check if my memory is running dual channel in lubuntu?
[15:58] <testdr> switchtehbeat: the memory-speed is higher than in single-channel-usage
[15:59] <switchtehbeat> what does that mean?
[15:59] <testdr> switchtehbeat: the memtest (from the grub-boot-menu or live-version) may show it
[15:59] <testdr> whats the meaning of computer?
[15:59] <rafaellaguna> maybe the hardinfo tool show it
[16:00] <switchtehbeat> I have 4 sticks and 2 in each blue and black..2 in black...2 in blue...that's dual channel?
[16:01] <switchtehbeat> sorry i got the info from google..
[16:01] <testdr> only if the the memory-sticks are compatible for the bios/hardware-usage
[16:01] <switchtehbeat> ahh okay
[16:01] <testdr> normaly a good bios will show it -- check bios settings
[16:04] <rafaellaguna> no need to enter bios, hardinfo in a terminal
[16:09] <switchtehbeat> rafaellaguna, ?
[16:09] <rafaellaguna> hardinfo, an app
[16:10] <rafaellaguna> it analizes components of your computer
[16:10] <rafaellaguna> you can in your menu like System Profile and Information, or something like that
[16:10] <switchtehbeat> it doesn't say if it's dual channel or not :(
[16:11] <rafaellaguna> O_o
[16:11] <switchtehbeat> look i'll print screen sec
[16:12] <rafaellaguna> lshw-gtk
[16:12] <switchtehbeat> http://i.minus.com/ibbmmUejlzt70l.png and http://i.minus.com/idLKuGK7OUmcw.png
[16:13] <switchtehbeat> installing lshw-gtk
[16:14] <rafaellaguna> I'm trying, it doesn't  say...
[16:14] <switchtehbeat> nothing there..lol
[16:14] <switchtehbeat> brb i'll check my bios
[16:16] <rafaellaguna> yes, bios says, I find no other way. sorry,
[16:16] <rafaellaguna> lshw and hardinfo are a bit more "domestic"
[16:25] <switchtehbeat> I HATE booting in to windows but CPUZ (?) said it's dual channel. my bios doesn't say if it's dual or not. it just tells me it's 16gb.
[16:25] <switchtehbeat> http://i.minus.com/itOougppFx9T1.png
[18:32] <malaphus> Hi all, I'm running lubuntu 14.04 and am having trouble setting autologin-user in lightdm.conf(.d/blah.conf)
[18:33] <malaphus> It was working fine, but suddenly stopped, auth.log complains about lightdm being unable to load shared libraries during startup, (pam_gnome_keyring.so and pam_kwallet.so)
[18:40] <llogiq> Hi folks.
[18:42] <llogiq> I have a (possibly stupid) question: When I press the mute key (and openbox calls "amixer -q sset Master toggle"), the Master, Headphone and Speaker channels are all muted. When I press it again, only the Master channel is unmuted. What gives? And more importantly: Does somebody know how to get it to unmute all three channels?
[18:43] <phillw> llogiq: I still have to untick the box.
[18:44] <llogiq> Btw. Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller.
[18:46] <llogiq> A possible workaround is to call "amixer -q sset Headphone toggle; amixer -q sset Speaker toggle", but only when the sound is muted.
[18:46] <llogiq> But I had hoped for a more elegant solution.
[18:49] <phillw> llogiq: have a look on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 and even an ask around.
[18:51] <llogiq> Thanks, phillw
[18:52] <phillw> they cover a lot of stuff on that forum area, and are nice people.
[19:07] <llogiq> cu folks.
[20:13] <absk007> Unit193, how to open console or developer tools in xombrero?
[20:36] <Ahmuck> good afternoon
[20:38] <phillw> good evening Ahmuck (21:38 in UK) :)
[20:39] <Ahmuck> heh
[20:40] <Ahmuck> i've been digging quite extensively in lubuntu and have come to a realization of how quickly it can be customized
[20:40] <Ahmuck> i do have some very basic questions that would help me clear things up
[20:40] <phillw> Ahmuck: indeed :) I do server additions to mine, lots of others who like pretty screens use conky
[20:43] <Ahmuck> actually i was looking at the menu, panel, ec.
[20:43] <Ahmuck> it appears they are just config files and connected to a backend binary lx-somewidget
[20:43] <Ahmuck> lx-someprogram
[20:44] <phillw> Ahmuck: yup, you have openbox config and others... it is very customisable
[20:44] <Ahmuck> which is a binary connected to another binary function of the os "aviah-deamon", etc.
[20:44] <Ahmuck> i was digging through the binary source and understand it as well
[20:45] <Ahmuck> i'm only confused on the basic structure.  so, let me see if this is right ... linux (os interacting with hardware) --> windowing system --> de
[20:49] <phillw> yes, lxde / xcfe / kde / Gnome / Unity all are DE's on top of a common core. Each will pull in its own set of applications, but under the hood they are the same for the basic stuff.
[20:49] <phillw> Ahmuck: have a read of http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/11/how-to-customise-lxde-desktop-using.html I cannot swear it is up to date, as I do not tweak my Desktop, just what applications it runs.
[20:52] <Ahmuck> looking at the source code, (i understand everybody wants it thier own way) it seems odd to have 100 different pieces of code to do the same things
[20:53] <Ahmuck> what is the common core?  the os?
[20:54] <phillw> Ahmuck: the one for *buntu is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall (Those are our notes for lubuntu, but that core will install any of the family)
[20:58] <Ahmuck> i've got a graphical map of how everything works but need clarification.  i'm going to build a flowchart of how lxde works and it's binaries.  for me to visually see it helps me map it in my mind so i able to make proper corrections.
[21:00] <Ahmuck> for example, i just noticed nm-stage()-connecting10 icons for the network connection while it's establishing a connection.  what program handles this?  lx-nm? or nm-applet?
[21:02] <phillw> Ahmuck: I've seen that, but it did clear itself... cannot recall the cause
[21:03] <phillw> Ahmuck: I think it was a kick back from dhcp 'doing its bit'..
[21:03] <Ahmuck> no no.  that icon uses those icons for animation.  there is a sequence when the binary is iniciated that starts the animation.  i was curious.  i'll just trace it down and find out where the icons are coming from
[21:03] <Ahmuck> how they are activaged, etc.
[21:04] <Ahmuck> while digging i've found several places for autostart.  i assume this may be part of the problem (and may be because of dist-upgrade wanting to preserve existing configurations) which makes sense
[21:05] <Ahmuck> it looks however to be a really easy thing to trace if all the known variables are known.  and that is where i was having issues before, so i thought i would document it in a visual flow chart map accoridng to execution of processes
[21:05] <phillw> Ahmuck: you may want to set up a virtual machine and start using LXQt, as lubuntu is due to switch a lot of applications from GTK to the new system and applications such as you are discussing.
[21:06] <phillw> pop on 14.10, and then add LXQt to it
[21:07] <phillw> Ahmuck: just be aware that it does get broken at times, so is not ready for anything but that VM or a seperate test machine.
[21:10] <phillw> 14.10 is a general bug-fix for 14.04 so is just a 'stable' release (we do get a shiny new kernel and bug fixed browsers etc that have not been SRU'd)
[21:10] <Ahmuck> i notice that lxde has gpicview.  why?
[21:10] <Ahmuck> is it a seperate binary?
[21:10] <phillw> Ahmuck: lowest resource version of it's class
[21:14] <phillw> Ahmuck: usually (not for 14.10) There is a two week period for people to suggest replacements for the applications Lubuntu ships by default. It is a lively two weeks! We recently switched from Chromium to Firefox as that is now lower resource aftr it went on crash diet.
[21:15] <Ahmuck> is there a set of applications considered "needed" for default?  for example, a web browser is a needed application in this day?
[21:16] <phillw> Ahmuck: that is why we have lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-core. xombrero is a non-really supported browser, but it's damn small.
[21:17] <phillw> it is kindly look after by one of the lubuntu guys, to ensure we have a current version available for those who wish to use it.
[21:24] <Ahmuck> lubuntu-core apps are listed where?
[21:26] <Ahmuck> nm, found it
[21:26] <phillw> Ahmuck: for such finer things... always head to minimal install area :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall You get the list of two versions there :)
[21:27] <Ahmuck> so in lubuntu-desktop there are a lot of package managers
[21:27] <Ahmuck> GDebi Package Installer - ST
[21:27] <Ahmuck> Lubuntu Software Center - ST
[21:27] <Ahmuck> Software Updater - ST
[21:27] <Ahmuck> Synaptic Package Manager - ST
[21:27] <Ahmuck> Software & Updates - P
[21:27] <Ahmuck> Additional Drivers - P
[21:28] <phillw> !food | Ahmuck
[21:28] <phillw> !flood | Ahmuck
[21:29] <Ahmuck> but a kick/ban does not work with my ip address
[21:30] <phillw> Ahmuck: I take it Drone` has warned you... and if you do not obey the rules you will be k-lined and not have people answer your questions. So, drop the  "but a kick/ban does not work with my ip address" attitude and follow the rules :)
[21:32] <phillw>  Ahmuck_: I take it Drone` has warned you... and if you do not obey the rules you will be k-lined and not have people answer your questions. So, drop the  "but a kick/ban does not work with my ip address" attitude and follow the rules :)
[21:34] <Ahmuck> Drone didn't warn me, it just spewed gibberish on my screen
[21:34] <Ahmuck> but i understood what it was doing
[21:34] <Ahmuck> btw, it's not attitude yet
[21:35] <phillw> I've never upset Drone` So not sure what it says, I just use the flood factoid.
[21:35] <phillw> !flood | Ahmuck
[21:36] <Ahmuck> doesn't really do anything except op in, quiet, op out
[21:36] <Ahmuck> for a new chat user means nothing
[21:36] <Ahmuck> it's a flood protection
[21:36] <phillw> which I think is much more politer, as it is for people who are new
[21:36] <Ahmuck> unless they have no clue
[21:36] <Ahmuck> anywho, moving on
[21:37] <Ahmuck> so is Lubuntu Package Manager supposed to replace the plethoria of package managers?
[21:38] <Ahmuck> er, sorry, Lubuntu Software Center
[21:38] <phillw> Ahmuck: it could be from the massive DNS attack that took freenode down for a couple of days..... Or, as was noted ... "A bit like a bunch of thugs trying to kick a puppy to death" Freenode is over 99% volunteer run.
[21:39] <phillw> Ahmuck: LSC is the light version of the GUI that ubuntu software center.
[21:39] <phillw> Ahmuck: and it is one of those being re-written for Qt5
[21:41] <phillw> Updater is also being totally re-written, and a new one to look after repos / ppa's.
[21:41] <Ahmuck> http://pastebin.com/nTKbvkN4
[21:42] <Ahmuck> am I holding you up from getting sleep
[21:43] <phillw> Ahmuck: those three are the ones I have a slight involvement with, if you want to know where things are at, have a head of to https://launchpad.net/~gilir/+archive/ubuntu/q-project?field.series_filter=
[21:44] <phillw> Ahmuck: doesn't make much sense to me.
[21:44] <Ahmuck> to many menu options that could be combined into some very simple configuration interfaces
[21:45] <phillw> I'm a tester, not a dev :)
[21:45] <Ahmuck> reviewing both the menu, panel, how they work togather i'm beggining to wonder if gui interfaces (backend binaries) need to be re-written to combine multple functions for the same thing
[21:46] <Ahmuck> to make things simpler.
[21:46] <Ahmuck> anybody with term experiences does not need them.  i found the menu options and trying to remember where each thing was confusing
[21:46] <Ahmuck> ur testing qt?
[21:46] <Ahmuck> er, lxqt
[21:48] <phillw> Ahmuck: If you put together a document with your thoughts of what can be improved owing to duplication, please do so and send it to me phillw@phillw.net If it is a well written document, I assure you that I will ensure it is read and you will get a reply.
[21:48] <malaphus> so my company has a requirement that there be a confidentiality notice on login screens for our employees, I use to be able to customize the lightdm greeter to add an image with company logo and the disclaimer, but now it seems that the greeter look is hard coded into lightdm, anyone know of a greeter I can use that gives me this functionality?
[21:49] <Ahmuck> actually over the next 90 days i'm going to create a dia diagram of processes and configuration links so i can visually see what is connected, why, and what is going on.
[21:49] <Ahmuck> malaphus, change the coding?
[21:49] <phillw> 14.10 is only a bug fix, so thoughts for 15.04 are not too late, offering to write to standard your proposals is also a big plus :)
[21:49] <Ahmuck> need the link to the source code of the greeter
[21:50] <malaphus> Ahmuck: recompiling lightdm is a possibility, but I was hoping for a greeter that was just customizable out of the box, so that it's easier for us to keep up with patches, etc
[21:50] <phillw> Ahmuck: we do not have 90 days :)
[21:50] <Unit193> malaphus: 'wallpaper' is no longer taken into effect from the [greeter] section of /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf?
[21:50] <phillw> October comes very quickly
[21:50] <Ahmuck> i'd write a customizable greeter and then submit for inclusion and let the patches be completed by the group
[21:51] <Ahmuck> phillw, i'm not doing it for lubuntu, for myself.  if lubuntu decides to borrow, then that's up to them
[21:51] <phillw> Ahmuck: we have a well written greeter, that will not be changed
[21:51] <Ahmuck> but i've very good with organization of gui's and visual mapping
[21:51] <phillw> Unit193: btw, what does Drone` do ?
[21:51] <malaphus> Unit193:  looks like it's "background", I will try... I know the logo= setting is ignored now
[21:51] <Ahmuck> anything can be changed, anything is possible, one needs only to find the right democratic motivation
[21:52] <phillw> Ahmuck: Lubuntu is a technoracy
[21:52] <Ahmuck> it's open source afterall, this is why we have so many splinter groups
[21:53] <Ahmuck> and i always love how upper techs think they can hold onto something only to have someone re-write the game plan, for example, openoffice vs libreoffice
[21:53] <Unit193> malaphus: Right, my bad, that's the key I was looking at.  Problem may be in accountsservice setting the wallpaper though.
[21:53] <phillw> indeed, if you do not like the way lubuntu is heading, you are fully entitled to your own spin :)
[21:53] <Ahmuck> and others
[21:53] <Unit193> I don't believe pcmanfm is accountservices aware, so that should be pretty good if you use that for the desktop.
[21:53] <Ahmuck> it's not that phillw, it's the total ignoring the problem and calling it not a problem that's peeved me
[21:53] <Ahmuck> not by you
[21:54] <phillw> Ahmuck: what is not being called not a problem ?
[21:56] <zerothis> I have a toshiba satellite a25-s2792. Trying to boot trusty live. the lubuntu splash shows & some "ali15x3" errors that blink too fast to read . then says "starting lighdm display manager" then screen goes black.
[21:56] <Ahmuck> phillw i'm not getting into past issues, moving on
[21:58] <zerothis> REISUB works