[04:51] <david_in_perth> Hi. I seem to have found a minor UI bug with the Distribution Upgrade tool upgrading from Saucy to Trusty. I'm not sure if I should report it, given that Saucy is no longer supported (it might still need fixing for future versions though).
[04:58] <david_in_perth> Short version: The "Do you want to start the upgrade?" window - the one that lists all the removed/new/upgraded packages - isn't recognised as a window by some parts of the UI; when I used the "show desktop" feature of the Alt+Tab menu, I couldn't get back to it and I had to restart the Distribution Upgrade tool
[05:34] <Logan_> david_in_perth: no longer supported, so there's no point to reporting it
[05:35] <Logan_> unless you can reproduce it going from Trusty to Utopic
[05:36] <david_in_perth> Yeah, I suspected as much. I could give it a go in a VM, but I'm not sure I have the time. Anyway, thanks for the feedback, I'll keep it in mind.
[05:38] <Logan_> bdmurray: might want to check that out ^
[06:43] <david_in_perth> Logan_ / bdmurray: I just signed in on my phone as DavidOnNexus4 (logging out of this client before starting upgrade).
[06:44] <DavidOnNexus4> ...let me know if you have any further questions.
[17:39] <tgrundle> hi, i have been checking out utopic and every so often the system freezes to the point i have to do a hard shutdown, which package should i report this against?
[17:41] <penguin42> hmm that's a little hard - when you say freezes, how hard a freeze?  e.g. does the mouse cursor still move? Does it still ping? Does capslock still work?
[17:41] <tgrundle> no mouse, no ping, no ssh, no capslock
[17:42] <penguin42> I'd file it against the kernel
[17:42] <tgrundle> nothing in the logs, last log to write is /var/log/upstart/thermald
[17:43] <tgrundle> i did stop thermald and it seemed to prevent the hangs
[17:43] <penguin42> hmm, do you think it's either overheating or some thermal control going wrong?  I heard there's some changes in utopic?
[17:44] <tgrundle> i think so, i had issues in the past with the kernel not liking my BIOS
[17:44] <penguin42> are you on the latest version?
[17:44] <tgrundle> i have the latest BIOS
[17:45] <tgrundle> i did try running the thermald in debug, but there was nothing unusual in the log
[17:45] <penguin42> hmm either thermald or the kernel then
[17:46] <penguin42> tgrundle: I suggest filing against thermald since you've tracked it down, and I assume the guys who deal with thermald know what stuff is kernel related and probably have more experience with dealing with this type of issue
[17:47] <tgrundle> penguin42: ok, thanks
[17:49] <penguin42> tgrundle: Ideally run ubuntu-bug thermald    straight after a reboot after it failed
[17:51] <tgrundle> penguin42: ok, will try that next time