[00:00] <nhaines> I mean, should POP3 support be banned?  Of course not--more is better.  But it's not like the 90s anymore where there was never any support for IMAP.  :)
[00:16] <matv1> nhaines again agreed. Still pop3 support did make it into the core-apps email wiki as a Must have. So some one other then myself must have felt an email app should have pop3 support. And that wiki wasnt written in 1986
[00:16] <matv1> and i am not one of those people that goes around saying Canonical should/must provide this and that service! i am just greatfull for every line of code that they produce.
[00:16] <matv1> All I am saying is: every casual reader of that wiki is going to assume that trojita email 1) is a core app and 2) that pop will be supported. So no one is inclined to do anything about it if they felt they needed it
[00:17] <matv1> so change the wiki :)
[00:17] <nhaines> matv1: I'm for that. :)
[00:18] <matv1> nhaines cheers!
[00:21] <matv1> nhaines i guess i will have to give daniel  chapman a heads up? or who would be the right person to bother :) ?
[00:26] <nhaines> matv1: not sure about that.
[00:27] <matv1> nhaines ok np
[00:41] <mollusc> I'm attempting a port for the LG G2 and have gotten to the stage of building an image, but I'm getting a linker error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL". Host OS is Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit which, to be fair, wasn't listed as supported in the porting guide but I put this down to the guide being slightly out-of-date. Anyone here willing to help me troubleshoot the build?
[01:01] <mollusc> I installed the package sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386
[01:02] <mollusc> Oops, accidentally sent that early. Anyway, installing the 32-bit lib seemed to allow the build to finish... I need to backtrack now and figure out how to get my device on the "lunch" menu
[04:27] <mollusc_> I'm trying to set up a build for a new device and having trouble figuring out exactly what I need to change in the makefiles. I'm getting this error from the lunch command: ** Don't have a product spec for: 'd802' \n ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> any news on meizu and bq yet?
[04:51] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: https://insights.ubuntu.com/phone/
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> lemme check
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: i hope they release soon :p
[04:53] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: well, probably some time after the RTM branch is stable which it's not.
[04:53] <nhaines> So that can be a good sign. :)
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah i heard the news on RTM
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> updates are so slow, cant stand all the waiting :p
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> someone should release and easy touch app builder
[04:55] <nhaines> Feel free to write one.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> so any user can make a cool app easy
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> i dont have the skillz for that :p
[04:55] <nhaines> It's also not the slightest bit simple to do.  :P
[04:55] <nhaines> Really, the SDK and javascript is pretty simple as is.  :)
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> would it be possible to make a touch app, ready to make any terminal app?
[04:56] <nhaines> I don't understand what you mean.
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> well lets say i want links2 on ubuntu touch
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> text based browser
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> could it be possible to make a touch app, so i just put the deb packagine of links2 inside
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> so anyone could make any terminal app
[04:58] <nhaines> Well no, you'd have to cross-compile the program and then install to run only in the click directory, and it'd have to work under apparmor, then you'd have to customize the Terminal app to run it and include that customized app.
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> not simple then :p
[04:59] <nhaines> It'd be easier to just cross-compile the program, decompress it into your home directory, run Terminal, and run the program.
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> would be more easy with a dir unlock, so i can install terminal packages
[05:01] <nhaines> You can do that, too.
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> but then i wont receiver updates
[05:01] <nhaines> It breaks system updates, but you're free to do so.  :P
[05:01] <nhaines> Yup.
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> ill just patient more, until someone invents a break trough :p
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> im so hungry to test terminal apps
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> mupdf, links2,nmap,colortail
[05:02] <nhaines> I want nethack.  :P
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> what does that do?
[05:03] <nhaines> http://nethack.org/common/index.html
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> there is an emulator app on touch yes
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> for roms
[05:05] <RoninDev> Can't get emulator booted. Black screen only. Can anybody help?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> RoninDev: on wich device?
[05:06] <RoninDev> you mean emulator version?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> no i mean your hardware
[05:07] <RoninDev> Linux RoninPC 3.13.0-35-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 15 01:58:42 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ah you trying to run touch on your ubuntu?
[05:07] <RoninDev> yes
[05:07] <RoninDev> is it possible?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> didnt test that myself
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> yes its possible
[05:08] <RoninDev> How also i can run it?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
[05:09] <RoninDev> yes, i create emulator, using that wiki
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/ubuntu-touch-emulator-installation-and.html
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> maybe this one is more clear
[05:11] <RoninDev> I'll check it out, thanks!
[05:11]  * mollusc flips the table
[05:12] <mollusc> Ugh, why does building have to be such a pain :P
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> lol, there's been done some good dev work here on touch
[05:25] <RoninDev> lotuspsychje, thank you for your link! It's work!
[05:32] <RoninDev> Ubuntu Touch looks awesome!
[05:44] <mollusc> Just to clarify, is Touch still based on CM10.1?
[12:31] <mollusc> Hmmm, seems as though this guide is out of date and Touch is no longer based on CM... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[13:51] <suliman> hi all! how can I import music in the Music app in Emulator. I copied them to the ~/Music folder, but no luck. Any ideas?
[13:54] <ogra_> suliman, the files need to be owned by the pahblet user ... just chown them
[13:59] <suliman> ogra: Thanks, I'll try it.
[14:06] <suliman> ogra: Thanks, it works. :)
[14:06] <ogra_> :)
[16:39] <nik90_> charles_: I added alarm snooze settings options in the clock app. Here is the MP for it https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/implement-snooze-settings/+merge/233622
[16:40] <nik90_> charles_: mind reviewing the c++ part of it pls
[17:20] <nhaines> nik90_: my hero!
[17:30] <sascha_> hallo, we can install ubuntu touch on my device htc one m8???
[17:31] <sascha_> How can I install ubuntu touch on my device htc one m8???
[18:16] <nik90_> nhaines: ?
[19:11] <Tassadar> hmm, anybody knows if ucm files are still needed for sound to work?
[19:12] <Tassadar> I'm patching my hammerhead images with files from bug 1276901, but I think you've switched to some different sound framework, maybe pulseaudio?