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deemoOerHeks, unfortunately I cant find that repo in the list... cinepaint right?00:00
OerHeksdeemo, yes, or celeum .. " this will be fixed on monday" 7 moths ago http://www.celeum.com/forums/topic/erro-with-package-dream-studio-software-sources/00:03
OerHeks*months00:03
deemowow 7 months ago00:03
deemoand not done yet00:03
Demetriahow do i install hexchat00:04
bazhangvia the package manager Demetria00:04
DemetriaHoo... tks bazhang  found it00:04
OerHeksnice project, xchat2 clone that is finally free for windows00:05
wowanameone00:06
wowanamewhole00:06
wowanameop00:06
wowanamefor 1 557 nicks00:07
wowanameunderstaffed much00:07
tanghaohelo,why i cannot use "windows+d" to display my desktop00:07
wowanameoh the axx list is longer :p00:07
wowanametanghao bind it00:07
wowanamealso it's usually called the super key, not windows key00:08
wowanameon linux anyway00:08
tanghaoyes,super key00:08
tanghaohow to solve the problem?00:09
wowaname<wowaname> tanghao bind it00:09
wowanamecheck your window manager documentation00:09
wowanameor whatever you use for shortcuts00:09
tanghaowhere to check the window manager documentation00:10
deemoOerHeks, thanks found the celeum one and disabled it... and it worked. However I have sent in a message to the forum for Dick the owner, hoping to call attention to it and get it sorted soon.00:10
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Baakoi install sudo apt-get install lamp-server^00:14
Baakoi created a test.php file but it doesn't work when i do localhost/tets.php00:14
* uRock thinks he's invisible. smh00:14
eeeeBaako: try f500:15
BaakoNot Found00:15
OerHeks created a tets.php00:15
wowanameoh lord i dont think i can stay in this channel without dropping an iq  point00:16
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Baakogot it00:16
uRockwowaname, what makes you say that?00:17
tanghaodo you know the command used for add a application hotkey?00:17
wowanamethe type of questions being asked in here so far00:17
wowanameuRock ^00:17
uRocklol00:17
tanghao i am using the Xubuntu1400:18
uRocktanghao, this is old, but may be helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu scroll down to the last reply00:20
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tanghaouRock, thx00:21
EiriksUbuntuHow do I take the pressure off of one of my dual core and give it to the other?00:21
EiriksUbuntuIs there a tweak in the newer version?00:22
licnep_anyone knows what i need to do to have gnome shell on ubuntu 14.04?00:22
licnep_apt-get gnome-shell?00:23
bazhanglicnep_, with sudo00:23
licnep_alright00:23
bazhangdont forget the 'install'00:23
licnep_yea sorry00:23
EiriksUbuntui love gnome00:23
uRockI love Unity00:24
EiriksUbuntuI like to keep it sleek and fast (yeah I had that shiny black gnome modded in 10.10)00:24
licnep_mm it's asking if i want to use gdm or lightdm as display manager00:26
licnep_any suggestion?00:26
Bashing-omlicnep_: Lightdm=Unity , GDM=Gnome .00:26
licnep_got it00:27
EiriksUbuntuyep, GDM is the fastest in my workflow00:27
tanghaoi am so tired ,i cannot open the web address "how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu"in china00:27
tanghaoeven though google.hk00:28
tanghaonot to mention google.com00:28
EiriksUbuntuI wonder if blender will run ok from a usb hdd00:29
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Moon_Doggyi'm getting a /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, and so on. thing is its mbr00:35
Moon_Doggywin8 is installed but i want to wipe disk00:35
Bashing-omMoon_Doggy: Wind8-UEFI=GPT partitioning.00:36
EiriksUbuntuI am really happy about the linux explosion over the last 5 years, I couldn't imagine someone rehashing it for cell phones... lol. Just wait until VR blutooths to android for VR surfing00:36
tanghaodns : command not find00:36
Moon_DoggyBashing-om: its only gpt if you have a uefi/efi bios00:37
Moon_Doggyi dont00:37
EiriksUbuntualright, take care all00:37
Baakoi cant ran simple command like wget download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb00:38
Baakowithout using sudo00:38
Bashing-omMoon_Doggy: OK, But so far as I am aware, Windows8 is installed as UEFI as OEM .00:38
Moon_Doggynot oem00:39
tanghaoi cannot use the command nameserver to set my DNS,this is why00:39
tanghaoi wanna cry00:40
Bashing-omMoon_Doggy: Maybe > http://www.rodsbooks.com/missing-parts/index.html < to convert the partition table to MBR ??00:40
mkanyicyBaako: do you get an error message?00:41
uRockCan't figure out why the I can't access on Ebay.com. All other sites are working fine.00:42
Baakojust permission message00:43
mkanyicyBaako: ok. to not use sudoyou must be in the folder you write perms in00:45
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Bashing-omuRock:  ping -c3 ebay.com >PING ebay.com (66.211.160.87) 56(84) bytes of data. > 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2016ms . I ain't just you.00:51
BaakoDependency is not satisfiable: lib32asound200:51
Baakoshould i be worry?00:51
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Bashing-omuRock: *It ain't just you.00:52
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Nandonishi :)00:58
NandonisI'm new to ubuntu and trying to install Starcraft 2 HOTS. Tried multiple guides but had no succes yet. Anyone who can lend me a helping hand?01:00
uRockBashing-om, thanks01:01
uRockI feel a bit better now.01:01
uRockBashing-om, have any ideas what it could be?01:02
OerHeksNandonis, check the wineHQ database https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11123 for gamehelp01:04
Glorfindellhow do I see what processes are running so I can kill one?01:04
Bashing-omuRock: I would hazard to guess the server is down ??, route -n ? see where it dies at ?01:05
Glorfindellin a terminal01:05
tewardBashing-om, i think ebay blocks pings... but the site over a web browser resolves here.01:05
OerHeks!info top01:06
ubottuPackage top does not exist in trusty01:06
hackelHow can I set the default mixer device used by the audio hotkeys?  This used to be set in gconf, but I am unable to find an equivalent key in dconf...01:06
Glorfindellpinging ebay works for me teward01:06
tewardGlorfindell, huh...01:06
fishcookerwhy i can't do modification even a root http://paste.ubuntu.com/8265436/01:07
GlorfindellNM I figured it out :)01:08
erikkLet's just say that the power went out while I was doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for the first time after my fresh install of Ubuntu Gnome. I restarted, put in the command again and was told to sudo dpkg --configure -a01:09
erikkWill this fix any issues for me?01:09
erikki.e. I can sleep without worry?01:10
Bashing-omuRock: teward : Thanks for that .. tried a "traceroute", it also dies on the 7th hop . will see what the browser here does.01:10
tewardBashing-om, worked in Chrome, I didn't test ffox01:10
Glorfindellteward: actually it doesn't :( it is pinging data and not getting a response01:11
Glorfindelland now that tty is tied up :P01:11
schultzahow do i get my computer to show the boot msgs like on a server?\01:11
Bashing-omteward: uRock confirmed wirk in the Chrome browser, I too can connect to ebay.com .01:11
Bashing-omwirk/work*01:11
schultzabe back later01:12
uRockBashing-om, so it does work in the browser for you?01:14
Bashing-omuRock: yes .. it do .01:14
uRockBashing-om, I can get to the page via my daughter's PC.01:14
uRockBashing-om, thanks for checking it out.01:15
Bashing-omuRock: No sweat here, I wish to know also  why your box is having a problem only with 'ebay' . curious !01:16
mkanyicyerikk: yes01:17
mkanyicymolo mncedisi01:18
Bashing-omuRock: Considering; firewall blocking that IP ?01:22
riley_Hello, I'm having an issue with my mouse, it's an old ps/2 mouse that has no scroll wheel, and I was wondering what I could do to emulate one01:23
boldfilter1Hello, I can't login on a fresh install01:24
riley_Perhaps you miss typed your password during the installation01:24
boldfilter1I deleted .Xauthority and now it just hangs01:24
Bashing-omriley_: Change settings in Bios to 'legacy' ??01:25
boldfilter1Tried that, reinstalled twice01:25
Ben64boldfilter1: well, why would you do that01:25
boldfilter1Followed some instructions online01:25
riley_Bashing-om: That won't help, I want to be able to scroll by holding a certain mouse button and then moving the mouse in the direction I want to scroll01:26
boldfilter1Guest session works fine01:26
boldfilter1I can login in terminal fine01:27
riley_Can anybody help me make it so that i can hold down a mouse button and then move the mouse in the way I wanna scroll?01:28
Bashing-omboldfilter1: access authorizations ? What returns in terminal from -> ls -al .Xauthority , ls -al .ICEauthority. Who owns your /home -> ls -al /home ?01:33
mkanyicyriley_: can u re-phrase?01:34
Basketballeeee, hey01:34
eeeeBasketball: hey01:34
Basketballdid you get it01:34
riley_mkanyicy: I would like to hold down the middle mouse button and move the mouse so I can scroll in my applications01:37
kyfhoubuntu!01:39
kyfhoits pisser!01:39
uRockBashing-om, I tried disabling ufw, still no connection. I will keep digging at it.01:42
RileyGuysorry, my gnome got screwed up01:42
RileyGuydid i miss something?01:42
RileyGuyim riley_01:43
Bashing-omuRock: It is a puzzler, why that sire does not resolve on your box . Hook up sis' box to that cable and see what results > ( I never saw it, but in the router ?) .01:45
Bashing-omsire/site*01:45
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platoesIs the relationship between Canonical and Lubuntu different than that between Canonical and Xubuntu, Kubuntu ...?01:51
Guest81762hello I have a problem with my internet conection error (32) not authorized neworking what can I do about it01:51
usr13platoes: I dont think so.  Why?01:51
usr13Guest81762: From what application are you getting this error?01:52
tyrannosaurusRekWhy would you user the server version?01:53
tyrannosaurusRekuse*01:53
platoesusr13: Xubuntu website states "© 2012–2014 Canonical Ltd" While the Lubuntu one states "Creative Commons License lubuntu.net"01:53
platoesusr13:  © 2010 - 2014 The Kubuntu community.01:54
rwwno, the Xubuntu website states "© 2012–2014 Canonical Ltd and content creators."01:55
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KaneVanguardis there a ubuntu devel utpoic channel01:56
rww!ubuntu+101:56
ubottuUtopic Unicorn is the codename for Ubuntu 14.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+101:56
usr13platoes: See "Lubuntu vs Ubuntu" at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu01:56
usr13platoes: "The differences between Lubuntu and Ubuntu are: Different DE - Lubuntu uses LXDE while Ubuntu uses Unity as the default DE.      Different Default Applications01:57
usr13platoes: Other than that, they are the same. The DE is what makes Lubuntu a lightweight OS, and of course the selected applications too because we make sure to use the lightest applications which are not resource hungry.01:57
platoesusr13:  Hmmm. Okay. Isn't Ubuntu developed by Canonical employees whereas Lubuntu would be build upon that work through volunteer developers?01:58
uRockOMGUnicorns!01:59
uRocksorry, had to get that off of my chest01:59
rwwplatoes: Canonical employs some of the people who work on Ubuntu. Those people tend to focus on Ubuntu, yes.01:59
uRockBashing-om, I removed the router from the network and connected straight to the modem. It seems my router was messing something up01:59
usr13platoes: I think the only difference is that Ubuntu is the core project, but Lubuntu and Xubuntu both share the same core system and the same repositories.  The difference is that they have different Desktop Environments.  That's all.02:00
usr13Well, I didn't say that just right, but you get the idea...02:01
platoesrww, usr13: Okay - so then do the *ubuntu releases always happen after the ubuntu release, or is there parallel development?02:01
rwwplatoes: They release at the same time.02:02
rwwI think there's been once or twice when a flavor released after the fact because of a very-late-found bug02:02
rwwThe release cycles only differ in the flavors having betas whereas Ubuntu itself doesn't02:03
platoesWould ubuntu survive without Canoncial, or does it require the financial backing and so on that a company provides? Would it be able to keep being accessible to the average person if it were to become more community-driven like Debian?02:03
rwwNo idea, and I think we're drifting rather off-topic for #ubuntu. You might want to ask #ubuntu-offtopic.02:04
usr13platoes: I would say that the dates are the same.  Lubuntu and Xubuntu may release slightly later, I don't know, (because I don't update on the day of release, I do it when I'm ready, which may be a couple months later, so I don't really keep up with it.02:04
rwwthey don't02:04
usr13platoes: As rww states, this topic would be better for #ubuntu-offtopic.  This channel is for ubuntu, xubunut, lubuntu etc. support02:06
Bashing-omuRock: Well ! Who would have thunk it ! .. but had to be somehewre in the routing ! .. now it is router documentation time !02:06
platoesusr13, rww: Right you are! Thanks for answering questions!02:07
spjtYou people are wrong though, sort of02:07
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usr13spjt: Who is wrong?02:07
spjtusr13: i dunno. I just woke up and my log might be showing something old. It was about the difference between lubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu02:07
usr13spjt: Ok.  Enlighten us, (at #ubuntu-offtopic).02:08
Basketballeeee, E: Type 'EOF' is not known on line 16 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read.02:09
eeeeiirc you were using cat << EOF?02:10
spjtusr13: in any case I'm using ubuntu now because my bluetooth headphones don't work in xubuntu, because it uses a different program to configure it (that doesn't work). In any case the differences go far beyond just using a different DE02:10
Basketballsudo cat > /etc/apt/sources.list <<EOF02:10
pacmachello02:11
usr13spjt: May be a different default application, but the same applications are available for both ubnut and xubuntu.02:11
OerHekswhat tutorial says that, Basketball ?02:11
pacmacI'm trying to run intel_reg_dumper but I'm getting the error "Couldn't find graphics card". why?02:11
usr13spjt: So if you moved from xubuntu to ubuntu just to configure a device, you probably did more than you needed to.02:13
Basketballeeee, what do i do02:13
uRockBashing-om, I fixed it by switching from eth1 to eth0, and changing ports on the switch. Scratching my head as to why that worked.02:13
spjtusr13: Depends what that means, for that moment in time it took less time to reinstall than it would to figure out how to fix the problem,.02:13
uRockBashing-om, thanks for the help!02:13
spjtusr13: Another thing is that xubuntu had unbearable video tearing02:14
Bashing-omuRock: All O did was let ya bounce things off of me .. You did all the thinkong. Still had to be something in the routers routeing tables - somewhere .02:15
usr13spjt: Same video card, same driver module, same kernel, same video player?02:15
spjtusr13: different (or lack thereof) compositor, apparently02:16
uRockBashing-om, I tried power cycling, but that didn't help. I need to put dd-wrt on it soon02:16
usr13spjt: Other than the DE, Ubuntu and Xubuntu are the same.02:16
spjtusr13: I found some workaround where I could use compiz with xfce, but it didn't work very well (fixed the tearing but broke the wm)02:16
usr13spjt: That could be.02:17
spjtusr13: Anyway, after using unity for a few days I got used to it, especially since this computer is an i7 and I had been using xubuntu on my other computers because unity was too slow02:18
usr13spjt: I'm not an authority on compiz, but not sure what difference it makes with video playback, (not sure that it does).02:18
Basketballeeee,  can you please fix it02:18
sydneyspjt: sounds like a graphics driver issue02:19
spjtusr13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214446802:19
usr13Basketball: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?02:19
spjtusr13: Apparently using Compton is a better solution, but I had given up before that point02:20
sydneyspjt: is it just in xfce? Have you tried lxde?02:20
spjtsydney: according to that thread lxde is just as bad. Besides, the one dealbreaker for me with lxde has always been that you can't have 2x2 virtual desktops02:21
spjtI know it seems petty...02:21
usr13spjt: What video player?  Was it flashplayer?02:21
schultzahow do i get my linux to boot with the bootup msgs rather than the logo like on a server?02:21
usr13spjt: Were you  playing videos via Firefox?02:22
spjtusr13: pipelight flash in firefox02:22
sydneyspjt: lxde has virtual desktops,but only 2. ;)02:22
spjtsydney: You can add more, but only in a horizontal row.02:22
usr13spjt: Oh, netflix?02:23
spjtusr13: espn02:23
Bashing-omschultza: In /etc/default/grub edit > change "quiet splash" to "text" .02:23
usr13sydney: virtual desktops are not negotiable in lxde?02:23
usr13spjt: Oh, ok.02:24
spjtusr13: afaik you can have as many as you want, but you can't configure their arrangement02:24
usr13spjt: pibelight is a substitute for silverlight, right?02:24
sydneyI use lxde daily,but havent done to much digging in that aspect...02:24
schultzaBashing-om: then do a grub install again?02:24
usr13spjt: Oh, ok.  Thanks info.02:24
spjtusr13: You can run recent versions of Flash in it, which is what ESPN requires.02:24
boldfilter1Using Ubuntu web browser cuz idgaf02:25
Basketballeeee,  please can you fix it02:25
spjtusr13: no, it doesn't work in chrome-unstable. I tried :)02:25
usr13spjt: What version of Ubuntu are you on?02:25
spjtusr13: 14.04.102:25
Bashing-omschultza: No, for the change to take effect -> sudo update-grub <- .02:26
usr13spjt: What version of Firefox?02:26
schultzaok.. thanks02:26
spjtI always thought when I had some time off work I'd get xubuntu working, but enough time passed that I just got used to unity...02:27
usr13spjt: (The version of firefox can also have an impact, and that changes almost monthly.02:27
kyfhofreebsd and icewm here02:27
kyfhowhy should I move to ubuntu?02:27
spjtusr13: 32.002:27
Bashing-omschultza: :) enjoy.02:27
spjtkyfho: Because you need a new computer.02:27
schultzaBashing-om: now the gui isnt loading automatically... i want to see the msgs, but still have the gui02:27
kyfhonop got 6 core amd64 amd and 16g ram02:28
usr13spjt: That may not really be firefox any more.02:28
kyfhoI need less computing power02:28
kyfhoI have too much02:28
spjtkyfho: If a 486/33 was still the top of the line I'd probably still be running slackware.02:28
kyfhoI may have become too powerful02:28
kyfhonot hired cuz I get promoted over the chimps there now02:28
kyfhothere is great comedy in him, we must be cautious02:29
kyfhoslackware!02:29
kyfhololz02:29
kyfhonever tried it02:29
kyfhoor so long agoz I forgotz02:29
spjtThe reason I stopped using slackware is because I had it running for years on my 486, and it would take me months to get it working the same way on another machine02:29
Bashing-omschultza: 2 things .. start the desktop ( unity = sudo service lightdm start ), or edit again and use terms "quiet text" .. or perhaps "" will work .02:29
schultzai got it working with "noquiet"02:30
usr13spjt: months?  Really?02:30
kyfhowhy so long02:30
Bashing-omschultza: Good deal, Just goes to show I do not know everything all the time ... huh ? .. great ya got it fingered out.02:31
spjtusr13: I didn't use any packages as there weren't any for most things at the time, it was all built from source basically hand ported to my own installation02:31
usr13kyfho: Yea, I think that is exaggeration.02:31
usr13spjt: See my pm02:32
kyfhoI am a unix vet, but a lot of younger goons I interview with dont hire me02:37
uMeeKsi just installed ubuntu on my laptop. its installed on a 64gb ssd fine, i have a 500gb drive as well that i cant seem to get formatted02:37
kyfhoand have issues02:37
kyfhoI guess I am confused as to what is in the mind of these younger goons that means you are technically adept02:37
uMeeKscan anyone help02:37
kyfhoknowing ruby seems to be some kinda ego point02:37
kyfhoI think ruby stinks02:38
kyfhoumeeks if all else fails read the directions02:38
uMeeKswhat directions02:38
DonohueHey - Having difficulty getting smooth video playback in fullscreen. Using an AMD APU, with FGLRX-updates and Ubuntu 14.0402:39
kyfhothe ubuntu 14.04 server guide of course02:39
kyfho:)02:39
cfhowlett!server | uMeeKs02:39
ubottuuMeeKs: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server02:39
uMeeKsim not running a server02:40
kostkonuMeeKs, describe your problem02:41
kostkon!details02:41
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)02:41
uMeeKsalright02:41
uMeeKsi have 2 hard drives installed in this laptop, a ssd with ubuntu and a sata 500gb drive02:41
spjtDonohue: playing video with what02:41
uMeeKsin Disks it not allowing me to format the 500gb02:42
boldfilter1How would I repair permissions if a file is from another system02:42
kostkonuMeeKs, you mean the button is not clickable?02:42
uMeeKsno02:43
Donohuespjt, Any full screen video appears to tear / is choppy.02:43
uMeeKswhen  i try to create a new partition it errors out02:43
cfhowlettuMeeKs, this is while booting a USB ubuntu, yes?02:43
kostkonuMeeKs, install gparted and try using that.02:44
uMeeKsubuntu is installed02:44
noons+1 on gpart02:44
kostkonuMeeKs, come back if you still have problems or you need further help02:44
Bashing-omuMeeKs: MBR, 4 partition limit ??02:44
uMeeKsys02:44
DonohueI've looked into possible solutions, but the majority seem applicable to Nvidia cards, and not AMD. I've enabled tear-free, and wait for v-sync, as well as disabled it with no change either way.02:44
spjtDonohue: What are you using to watch the video, are you watching video files in a program or are you watching them in a browser, what browser, etc02:45
uMeeKs1: Warning: /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.02:45
Donohuespjt, the problem occurs in VLC, and the browser. Tested in Firefox, Opera and Chrome.02:45
cfhowlettuMeeKs, yep.  ubuntu and gpt don't co-exist without speical care.02:45
cfhowlett!gpt02:45
noonsDonohue:  I've actually had awful awful luck with AMD video cards in linux so I stopped buying them02:45
noonsfrom what I've heard things havent gotten much better02:46
Donohuenoons, mine's an APU, so it's integrated - aka, stuck with it for now. The xorg drivers weren't better either.02:46
uMeeKsuick9902:46
noonsahh missed that :(02:46
kyfhousb3 seems crappily supported on centos as is freebsd02:47
kyfhoI wonder if my mobo not ok with usb3 extension card02:47
uMeeKsso format it GUID ext4 right02:47
DonohueThe plan is to pick up a nvidia card as soon as possible. I'm not a new user by any means, so this issue is odd for me. I'll attempt to upgrade hardware if I can't figure it out, as it DEFINITELY tears a ton running Portal / Portal 2. I've attempted various fixes, and even to disable compositing while fullscreen (forced), but still no change. So I think hardware is the next option unless there's something I'm missing.02:47
spjtDonohue: fwiw you can try smplayer and test the different output drivers to see if any of them work for you02:48
spjtDonohue: although that will only help for video files02:48
cfhowlettuMeeKs, "it" is the HDD?  then yes.02:48
uMeeKsyes02:48
uMeeKsgparted worked02:48
Donohuespjt, thanks, may give that a try. I'm also going to see if I can re-encode and see if its' a codec issue.02:48
Donohuenoons, thanks for the suggestion as well. Any suggestions on a low-mid card, around $100 that has good compat?02:49
cfhowlett!hcl | Donohue check the list for suggestions02:51
ubottuDonohue check the list for suggestions: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection02:51
cfhowlett!ops | -ArcticFox84-02:52
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kostkonDonohue, already tried enabling/disabling vsync?02:52
Donohuecfhowlett, thanks for that.02:52
cfhowlettDonohue, happy2help02:52
phunyguycfhowlett: sup?02:52
kostkonDonohue, in the game's options and/or graphics driver02:52
Donohuekostkon, yup. tested both ways, on both the free driver, nonfree and updates02:52
cfhowlettarcticfox84 - profanity and insults02:52
kostkonDonohue, ok02:52
phunyguy...where?02:52
Donohuekostkon, I had to first lock GL or something (can't remmeber) and it solved the lag between mouse movement and screen movement, but the tearing was still present. Thanks anyway, I'm going to consider new hardware02:53
DonohueAs it's integrated anyway.02:53
cfhowlett-ArcticFox84-       huh.  must be seen by me only?  but it's here on main channel, not a pm.02:53
DonohueI've been seeing it as well.02:53
phunyguycfhowlett: was probably a /notify02:53
phunyguywhich is channel agnostic02:53
Donohuephunyguy, no, it's been in the channel.02:53
kostkonDonohue, np02:53
phunyguyhmm...02:54
DonohueWant me to copy and paste in a PM/02:54
phunyguysure02:54
cfhowlettphunyguy, yeah, I guess so.  His bunkmate buddy -serdot- just joined in the fun02:54
Donohuephunyguy, nope, was notifies.02:54
phunyguythought so.02:54
DonohueI'll just ignore.02:54
cfhowlettDonohue, some here.  thanks phunyguy02:55
phunyguynp.02:55
phunyguycfhowlett: are you seeing it in other channel buffers02:55
cfhowlettphunyguy, buffers?  I'm only seeing it on this channel.02:55
noonsDonohue: as long as you don't mind running proprietary drivers any nivdia card should work nicely. They have 640s/50's for ~80 USD02:55
DonohueHe's not present in the channel. He's notifying from a different nic.02:56
phunyguyyep.... not much we can do about that02:56
DonohueBut he's obviously reading, as his insults are specific to what we're writing02:56
Donohuejust ignore his host, cfhowlett02:56
cfhowlettDonohue, clever scriptkitty02:56
phunyguyprobably a puppet in the channel02:56
noonsI've ripped my hair out dealing with AMD's and unfortunately althought they make some nice cards I refuse to buy them for the very issues you have02:57
DonohueI'm pretty committed to the switch this time around, as the OS has definitely progressed since 12.04, my last real go-around.02:57
noonserrr I should proof-read what I type02:57
DonohueOn desktop, I should say. Have been admining VPS's on and off in between. Anyway, thanks a lot all.02:58
cfhowlettnoons, I believe that nvidia has far  better support than amd02:58
noonsyea such a shame02:59
josh__hi guys i need helpp understanding the syntax to covert my img file (from a hdd) to a vdi format http://superuser.com/questions/554862/how-to-convert-img-to-usable-virtualbox-format03:00
josh__<josh__> the path of my source file is /home/josh/backup/grandmapc.img. The destination would be another drive (which I need to go buy - probably internal at at least two terabytes, thoughts - maybe hitachi? WD http://lifehacker.com/the-most-and-least-reliable-hard-drive-brands-150579796603:00
awktionhey03:03
josh__awktion, Hey :)03:03
josh__any ideas?03:03
awktionults10.04 - lvm2 installed, dm-mod wont modprobe on livecd03:04
awktionwhat other modules feed lvm?03:04
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samthewildone!remote03:08
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samthewildone!vnc03:08
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX03:08
awktion!lvm203:10
awktion!lvm03:10
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto03:10
awktionlame03:10
phunyguy?03:11
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ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".03:11
convidado_hi guys03:15
cfhowlettconvidado_, ask your ubuntu questions03:15
phunyguysettle down.03:15
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kittlesany ubuntu meetup groups?03:16
cfhowlettkittles, perhaps your ubuntu "loco" or linux user groups.03:16
cfhowlett!loco | kittles,03:16
ubottukittles,: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/03:16
convidado_i'm testing my pc03:16
kittlesthanks guys03:17
cfhowlettkittles, happy2help03:17
phunyguyconvidado_: then please take the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic03:17
kittleshow to change channels?03:23
cfhowlettkittles, /join #channelnamehere03:23
y3gangwhat client do you use03:24
kittlesx chat irc03:24
erikkHah. I actually just downloaded my first irc client03:24
erikkIt is Irssi03:24
y3ganghmmm03:24
delinquentmeNautilus is the file browins util right? I used to have 1/4th of the window showing a system overview ... now its gone ... how do I get this back?03:24
y3gangI like weechat03:24
phunyguy!ot03:24
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:24
kittlesi am using xfce desktop03:24
phunyguy-qo *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.28.53.146 phunyguy03:25
kittlesi tried to join ubuntu-offtopic - nothing happened03:26
noonsl03:26
phunyguywhoops :)03:27
phunyguyI'm a stupid op... tempt me more.03:27
phunyguygateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.28.53.146 ?03:28
phunyguygot it.03:28
phunyguythanks,03:28
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ompal99command to know remote machine is VM or Physical03:37
incoghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc4_2eMEW34 The l0de radio hour is now online! Tonight's episode: Punks jump up to get beat down! Call in live at 844-221-503303:39
cfhowlettincog, no spam.  not welcome.  thanks.03:39
phunyguyyeah let's not respond to that anymore.03:40
phunyguy(all they can do is notify.  pff)03:40
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UBUXUBUQuestion: I just helped a friend install ubuntu 14.04, she likes it and its running well, but unlike my ubuntu 14.04...hers will not burn a dvd right outta the box, like mine always have? can someone tell us how to configure ubuntu to burn dvd...and why it its not doing it by default like it always has?03:42
UBUXUBU"doesnt recognize the disk"03:42
Basketballi installed pamusb and it screwed up my password so i cant use sudo with usb and my password doesnt work how can i fix this03:43
UBUXUBUso we took the same disk and stuffed into her host machine (doze) and it burned?03:43
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, whae for USB?t ubuntu tool did you us03:44
UBUXUBUshe was using k3b then tried brasero03:45
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, and the very same ISO worked on a  different machine?03:46
UBUXUBUshe tried both cfhowlett then to make sure the dvd was ok she used the same disk in doze and it burned cfhowlett03:46
UBUXUBUand yes to ur question cfhowlett03:46
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, brasero is usually pretty much idiot proof in my experience.  Could the drive be failing/have failed/need cleaning?03:47
UBUXUBUno becasue the same drive is the drive on the host machine which has DOZE and we took the same blank dvd and put in back in the samde dvd drive BUT in DOZE and it burned the same iso03:47
samthewildonewould the actions of deleting .local in user dir reset all my settings ?03:48
cfhowlettsamthewildone, it will reset all that user's settings but not global settings03:49
UBUXUBUwhy wont brasero burn a dvd03:49
samthewildoneI just wanna reset my user settings.03:49
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, suggestion:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:49
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, fully update then attempt to burn another dvd03:49
UBUXUBUits a frsh ubuntu 14 04 install with updates but ok will try?03:50
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, current ubuntu is 14.04.103:50
ompal99command to know remote machine is VM or Physical03:50
UBUXUBUshe also installes the ubuntu ectras too03:50
cfhowlettompal99, ask in #ubuntu-server or ##linux              I'd also be interested in knowing.03:51
ompal99ok03:51
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Basketballcfhowlett, do you know?03:52
cfhowlettBasketball, know ... what?03:52
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Basketballi installed pamusb and it screwed up my password so i cant use sudo with usb and my password doesnt work how can i fix this03:52
cfhowlettBasketball, ah.  I saw that.   never used pamusb and don't know the answer.03:53
Basketballcfhowlett, is there a way to reset password03:53
Basketballwith knowing the pass03:53
cfhowlett!password | Basketball best link I know ...03:53
ubottuBasketball best link I know ...: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords03:53
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UBUXUBUwe just got this ubuntu ??? wouldnt we have 14 04 1 now???03:54
UBUXUBUwow i just did this install and it says i have 14 0403:56
UBUXUBUnow i gotta do 1404103:56
samthewildonebrb03:56
erikkI had option of downloading Gnome point release if I wanted03:56
UBUXUBUshe did updates and it says no disk available cfhowlett03:56
UBUXUBUfrustrating03:57
Bashing-omUBUXUBU: -> suso apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >>> 14.04.1 .03:57
morrnaI just ran chkrootkit and it found an infection in /sbin/init. Does anyone know how to follow up on this?03:57
Bashing-omsuso/sudo*03:57
UBUXUBUis 1404 1 LTS??03:57
rwwyes03:57
usr13omlet: cfhowlett I was curious too.  Looks like maybe  dmesg |grep VMware03:57
Basketballanyone here know bash script03:57
morrnaI'm running 14.0403:58
philotuehi03:58
UBUXUBUwe want LTS03:58
UBUXUBUthose in betweeen ones are almost always a headache03:58
UBUXUBUis .1 LTS?03:58
rwwyes03:58
UBUXUBUok she will try now thatnks03:59
usr13UBUXUBU: 10.04 12.04 14.04 etc...03:59
UBUXUBUnever heard of this .1 stuff03:59
usr13UBUXUBU: .1 just refers to point release03:59
UBUXUBUwell ok ima have here try it right now thanks03:59
UBUXUBUher*03:59
usr13UBUXUBU: .1 .2 .3 .404:00
philotuei could need some help with creating a starter-icon for skype on ubuntu 10.04. with the propper command in the terminal i can get skype to run, but creating a starter doesnt work. anyone?04:00
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UBUXUBUi wonder if i should do .1 too i like my 1404 as is04:00
UBUXUBUthis is for a friend the questions i ask though04:01
rwwif you run updates properly, it already is.04:01
usr13philotue: It's just like any other autostart, (but I don't think skype does auto-login anymore.04:01
UBUXUBUmine says 1404 in system04:01
UBUXUBUso should i do updates in terminal04:01
UBUXUBUoften wonderwhat is the proper way too update04:02
philotueusr13: the problem is: when i create the starter, i get an error messag (path or file not found) while the same command works in the terminal04:02
UBUXUBUsoftware center...terminal...synaptics?04:02
usr13philotue: In unity,, just type startup, (you'll get Startup Applications).04:02
usr13philotue: What command?04:02
philotueusr13: i'm on 10.04 with gnome. command ist: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/alex/skype-4.3.0.37/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH /home/alex/skype-4.3.0.37/skype04:03
rww10.04 Desktop hasn't been supported since 2013.04:03
usr13philotue: You did not install skype via the package manager?04:03
usr13philotue: Or did you...?04:04
bootRepairI have a question about clonezilla04:04
usr13bootRepair: This is #ubuntu04:04
philotueusr13: of course, but it stopped working. there is a workaround on the skype hp i followed. it includes typing the whole command into the terminal every time i want to start skype. so i'd like to create a starter-icon to click04:04
bootRepairI used expert option to clone with -r -k1 but now the drive layout is strange04:04
bootRepairusr13: i'm running ubuntu04:05
usr13philotue: which skype  #What does that say?04:05
UBUXUBUha even during the updates she sees it saying " unknown media type"04:05
usr13!ask | bootRepair04:05
ubottubootRepair: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:05
philotueusr13: apt-get only gets me skype 4.0, but it's not longer supportet. so i had to download and install 4.3 manually04:05
rwwUbuntu 10.04 Desktop isn't supported either.04:06
usr13philotue: What version of Ubuntu?04:06
philotueusr13: 10.0404:06
bootRepairI had a 640GB drive that had about ~150GB left. So I cloned to 1tb drive using -r/-k1 options so it uses the whole drive.04:06
usr13philotue: Server?04:06
rwwusr13: It's running GNOME and Skype, so no.04:06
UBUXUBUsudo apt-get dist-upgrade >>> 14.04.1 .              9is this the EXACT command?? with the arrows and all?04:06
rwwthe 5 year support is on a packageset, regardless of which CD one used to install.04:06
bootRepairNow it has taken that 1TB drive used 807GB and left 114Gb as free space. Which is very strange04:06
philotueusr13: 10.04 LTS04:06
rwwgnome, unsurprisingly, is not in the server packageset04:06
bootRepairbecause left storage should be around 400Gb04:07
svetlanaHow do I remove systemd? It complains that xubuntu-desktop depends on it. http://dpaste.com/0GSTX07#wrap04:07
usr13philotue: 10.04 has been EOL since May 9, 201304:07
UBUXUBUplease type in the exact terminal command to get the distro upgrade04:07
usr13philotue: So upgrade to 12.04 :)04:07
philotueusr13: the thing is: i now have a working version of skype running on this machine, i'm just not able to make a starter icon for the terminal command04:08
Bashing-omUBUXUBU: Not with the arrows .. only punctuation . -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to install any new kernels on the current 14.04 install.04:08
svetlanaUBUXUBU, «sudo apt-get dist-upgrade»04:08
rwwsvetlana: You don't have systemd installed, you have a variety of library packages shipped by systemd that various Xubuntu packages use, and a shim written by Canonical that implements some systemd API.04:08
usr13philotue: Your operating system has reached End Of Life.  Why do you not upgrade to 12.04?04:08
svetlanarww, how do I remove all that? Until today, thought I'm using 'upstart'.04:08
rwwsvetlana: You are using upstart. You are not using systemd. Assuming you want to continue to run a normal desktop environment, you leave things as they are.04:09
UBUXUBUok she got the dist upgrade04:09
svetlanarww, more on the 'xy problem': during boot I see some messages about it starting packages I removed a long time ago. I would like to clean up the list of what gets run during boot.04:09
philotueusr13: i will but can't right now because i'm writing my masters thesis and neither have time nor nerves to set up everything again, or to risk loosing functionality by upgrading.04:10
usr13philotue: http://ubottu.com/y/lucid04:10
UBUXUBUlets see if it will burn a dammm dvd now thanks all04:10
svetlanarww, ideally without having to clean that list by hand.04:10
rwwphilotue: when you get around to upgrading, your system will be supported in #ubuntu. Until then, it is not.04:10
rwwsvetlana: I have very little upstart knowledge, so I'll leave that to someone who does.04:10
svetlanaall: during boot I see some messages about it starting packages I removed a long time ago. I would like to clean up the list of what gets run during boot.04:10
UBUXUBUthanks all04:11
usr13philotue: The fact is that we don't know.  (We have not run into that problem because virtually none of us are running 10.04 because it is EOL.04:11
philotueok, so i will use the terminal to start skype till i update everything04:12
philotuethanks everyone04:13
usr13philotue: So you are in un-charted territory.  But the good news is that upgrading to 12.04 is easy and barring a power failure, or a hard drive that is completely full, there is almost no risk.  Still, though, it is a very good idea to backup /home/04:13
svetlanaphilotue: PM.04:13
usr13philotue: I fail to see how an autostart for skype is all that important.  Just lay a script on your desktop and click it.04:14
philotueusr13: i don't need an autostart, but laying the script on the desktop gives an error message when i click it04:16
usr13philotue: Actually, if you put a properly formatted sctipt in $HOME/bin should do the trick.  Just point the Startup to it.04:16
usr13philotue: pastebinit04:16
usr13philotue: Place the script in $HOME/bin and chmod +x it04:18
usr13philotue: Then you can symlink it.  Or just chmod +x the one you have.04:18
UBUXUBUubuntu even with 1404 1 upgrade still cannot see her dvd drive thus will not let her burn a dvd?04:19
svetlanacheck dmesg for when you put in the dvd04:19
UBUXUBUwhat is that svetlana04:19
svetlanalogs04:19
UBUXUBUru giving a suggestion?04:20
UBUXUBUim all ears04:20
UBUXUBUwhat is dmesg how do we do it04:20
svetlanayep, I'm suggesting to check logs: take out the dvd, put it in, run «dmesg», see if it has anything interesting04:20
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, insert DVD            then open terminal              cat dmesg                 to read the logs04:20
UBUXUBUso run a command  calle dmesg in the terminal?04:20
svetlanayes04:20
UBUXUBUok one moment04:21
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, doh!  NOT cat dmesg.    just    dmesg04:21
rwwdamn, i was about to add to the list04:21
UBUXUBUok ill wait04:21
UBUXUBUwhat up04:21
cfhowlettrww, please do.04:21
svetlanaUBUXUBU: "what up"?04:21
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, the last few entries of your LONG dmesg feedback should reference your dvd issue04:21
UBUXUBUok so open terminal and run command     dmesg     right?04:21
svetlanayes04:22
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, yes04:22
UBUXUBUdo i do it like    sudo dmesg04:22
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, dmesg04:22
UBUXUBUok just that ok04:22
openboxhello everyone04:22
UBUXUBUone moment04:22
usr13UBUXUBU: In ubuntu, dmesg does not require super user04:22
UBUXUBUok thanks one sec04:22
cfhowlettopenbox, hey.  ask your ubuntu questions04:23
openboxumm can it be a slightly fedora related question04:23
openboxim basically trying to install openbox on fedora04:23
cfhowlettopenbox, #fedora          would be the place to ask04:23
philotuegot it!04:23
openboxwhaT if i would try to install openbox on unbuntu04:23
svetlanayeah, it can be a little fedora related but when it's related to how they package things then I don't think folks would know here :-)04:23
openboxwould that work ?04:23
philotuethanks usr13 and svetlana !04:24
svetlanayes04:24
usr13philotue: Ok good.04:24
UBUXUBUsays system host name is not installed04:24
UBUXUBUomg what is that04:24
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, relax.04:24
openboxhas anyone here ever used openbox04:24
UBUXUBUbizarre04:24
UBUXUBUmaybe cuz we use a VM?04:25
cfhowlettopenbox, yes.  but FEDORA is not an ubuntu distro and so is not supported here.  ask fedora.04:25
UBUXUBUi use buntu in VM and it burns dvd no issue ever04:25
openboxok help me install openbox ?04:25
cfhowlettopenbox, not on fedora.04:25
usr13openbox: Really?04:25
Basketballcfhowlett, do you know bash script04:26
usr13openbox: (Ubuntu is not an rpm based distro.)04:26
cfhowlettBasketball, no.  #bash         or ##bash would be the channels you want04:26
Basketballcfhowlett,  they muted me for asking a question04:26
UBUXUBUi think her AMD cpu and ubuntu and a VM dont mix ... cant handle basic instructions04:26
cfhowlettBasketball, well that just seems ... harsh.  wait 1 ...04:26
openboxso openbox cant be installed on ubuntu ?04:27
usr13openbox: rpm -i openbox  will probably do it but if you join the fedora channel, they can give you specific information about fedora04:27
svetlanaopenbox, I just told you that it can.04:27
svetlanaopenbox: Where is that coming from?04:27
cfhowlettBasketball, see this list, pretty sure one will work for you.  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html04:28
usr13openbox: /join #fedora04:28
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UBUXUBUguess no luck for us04:32
UBUXUBUubunutu prolly made no codec for her dvd t o burn04:32
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jmcnaughtUBUXUBU: in order for a VM to be able to burn dvds, the virtualization software would need to be configured to let the VM have direct access to the dvd drive. The motherboard would also need support for IOMMU in order to "pass through" a PCI device04:33
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, possibly.  do this:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras04:33
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, oh, wait, the VIRTUAL machines is trying to burn?  doubt that'll work.04:33
UBUXUBUwe already did that thanks cfhowlett04:36
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, sorry.  I'm officially out of ideas.04:36
UBUXUBUubuntu burn well in my VM all day long04:36
UBUXUBUubuntu luvs VM04:36
jmcnaughtUBUXUBU: are you using the same virtualization software on both host computers? On your computer did you have to add your dvd drive to the VM or anything like that?04:37
UBUXUBUyes both same VM04:38
UBUXUBUi did not have to add anything04:38
UBUXUBUjust always do restricted extraas to be safe04:38
llucidXubuntu 13.04, Any way to get Synapse bleeding edge on it?04:38
UBUXUBUso im thinking it cuz AMD is summe rthan helll and intel is smart cuz im using an i7 and she had a a604:38
cfhowlettllucid, end of life and unsupported?  no.04:39
lotuspsychje!13.04 | llucid04:39
ubottullucid: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring04:39
UBUXUBUlooks like AMD cant handle any thing other than ordinary instructions04:39
llucidI understand...somewhat. Do you know what Unsupported implies entirely?04:39
UBUXUBUwhich doesnt shock me04:39
jmcnaughtUBUXUBU: it could be that your motherboard has Intel VT-d (the Intel equivalent to AMD's IOMMU) while her computer lacks that feature04:39
Metacityllucid: No updates, no support, no security fixes.04:39
llucidEven unsupported I find it hard to believe I cannot get Synapse on it.04:40
UBUXUBUyeah her a6 is prolly somewhat basic compared to mine and prolly mobo too04:40
UBUXUBUeven so should work04:40
UBUXUBUthis aint rocket science04:40
lotuspsychjellucid: install a safe version from topic04:40
UBUXUBUsomeone left out a codec more likely04:40
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cfhowlettllucid, unsupported also "implies" unsupported here as well.  install a supported version and then ask for assistance.04:40
UBUXUBUi did notice even in mine system kubuntu cannot burn a dvd while in a VM04:41
cfhowlettUBUXUBU, virtual machines are not 100% perfect in their implementation.04:41
UBUXUBUso its when the team doesnt put the software in there04:41
Shadow}}I have Ubuntu 14.04 on another Drive I update each day. I prefer this one for Youtube AMV stuff, As it can change speeds of video streaming on YT.04:41
jmcnaughtUBUXUBU: VT-d/IOMMU is a fairly new feature on motherboards (it's not a CPU feature), and a lot simply don't come with the support.04:41
UBUXUBUyeah maybe04:42
UBUXUBUmine 17 4770 and it does all this stuff no issue by default04:42
Jadz1aHi everyone. On a system with Ubuntu 10 (where Gnome is the Desktop environment), how can one upgrade software? On my system there is Firefox 3 installed, but I want to upgrade Firefox. But in the Ubuntu Software Manager there is only the option to install/remove packages, not to upgrade packages.04:42
lotuspsychjeShadow}}: we really recommend 14.04 on all machines04:42
UBUXUBU1st real issue ive seen in 140404:42
rwwJadz1a: Ubuntu 10.x Desktop has not been supported since 2013. Upgrade to a current version of Ubuntu.04:42
cfhowlettJadz1a, 10.* is no longer supported.  install 14.0404:42
rww!eol | Jadz1a04:42
ubottuJadz1a: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:42
Shadow}}My real question is what makes this OS (Xubuntu 13.04) completely...Isolated per se? Is that both ways? Meaning, In a way I'm safer browsing the internet on here than there(Ubuntu 14.04)?04:43
svetlanaShadow}}, hi. Please define "isolated" here.04:43
cfhowlettShadow}}, browsing the internet from an OS that doesn't received security updates?  unwise.04:44
lotuspsychjeShadow}}: if 13.04 doesnt get any updates, you cant be safer04:44
jmcnaughtUBUXUBU: it's not a CPU feature, it's a motherboard chipset feature. Without it VMs cannot access PCI devices directly (and they are simply emulated instead). USB devices on the other hand can be shared with VMs on computers lacking VT-d/IOMMU. So you could probably burn an ISO to a USB dvd drive from a VM04:44
Shadow}}Well. Its "end of the line" as the term goes,no? This makes it isolated from upgrading including from non trusted sources.04:44
Jadz1athanks all for your answers! Does eol mean that there are no updates available for the packages anymore, but before the eol updates were possible?04:44
svetlanaShadow}}: Does 13.04 receive security updates? — An answer to this question doesn't depend on the flavor. It being Xubuntu or Ubuntu shouldn't matter.04:45
lotuspsychjeShadow}}: just be smart, 13.04 was real solid and 14.04 has even become better, move along04:45
Shadow}}I am merely curious if that works both ways; As in... If I can't access my updating, Neither can a hacker without manually doing so?04:45
cfhowlettShadow}}, you have no security updates.  you are vulnerable04:45
Shadow}}Enough higher talking... I already said I have Ubuntu 14.04, I prefer this one for other reasons.04:46
Jadz1aIn other words, are software-updates disabled after End-of-life?04:47
lotuspsychjeShadow}}: then malicious users will prefer your outdated machine also04:47
svetlanaShadow}}: I'm not talking highly. I'm answering your question.04:47
MetacityJadz1a: They aren't disabled per se, but they do stop.04:47
Shadow}}cfhowlett, Some reason I disagree... Everyone keeps saying I can't install Synapse bleeding edge, If so... I'm far less vulnerable. svetlana I meant the ones telling to "upgrade".04:47
svetlanaJadz1a, lotuspsychje: I think the folk already got that point. Let's wait for their next question and reply accordingly.04:47
* Shadow}} shrugs "I suppose I got the answers I expected, Thank you all. Sincerely.04:49
svetlanaShadow}}: You can install Synapse at any OS you feel suitable, but I don't see the reasoning behind "so I'm far less vulnerable" point.04:49
Jadz1aMetacity, just for curiosity, what was the common way in ubuntu 10 to update software packages, also using the software manager (because I coudnt see there any update-option)?04:49
lotuspsychjehowcome CUPS doesnt show in startup items to disable?04:51
Basketballhey is Insync in a ppa04:51
izarryHi guys can anyone guide me what ubuntu server version should i use? i am new here >.<04:53
cfhowlettizarry, 14.04.104:53
rwwthe latest one04:53
MetacityJadz1a: I never used 10.04, but I believe the Update Manager is/was the preferred method.04:53
lotuspsychje!server | izarry04:53
ubottuizarry: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server04:53
cfhowlett!server | izarry,04:54
ubottuizarry,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server04:54
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Jadz1aMetacity, in the applications menu I only was able to find the software manager, but no update manager. Do you have any idea where to find it?04:54
izarryThanks guys , ^_^04:55
Jadz1aMetacity, I think it is in the administrations menu. Thanks for your help!04:56
MetacityJadz1a: No problem. :)04:56
MetacityJadz1a: And definitely upgrade to 14.04 ASAP!04:56
Jadz1aMetacity, I will :-)04:56
Jeeves_Mosshow do I make a directory rw for everyone in a group?04:59
svetlanachmod g+rw04:59
svetlanaand make sure it's also owned by the correct group04:59
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Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, ok, so if the group is "ftp", what would the command be?05:01
svetlanaJeeves_Moss, chgrp ftp dir; chmod g+rw dir05:02
Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, nope.  still premission denied on the FTP05:02
svetlanacheck permissions of the files within the directory, and of its parent directories05:02
Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, it's a totally new directoy05:04
svetlanathat's irrelevant05:04
Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, command?  (sorry, it's 1am here, and I've been mindless)05:04
svetlanacommand to view permissions? ls -la05:05
Moon_Doggyhow can i force video output to external monitor, im using xbmcbuntu so its running in a shell, i have ssh access05:05
Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, apparently, it's owned by proftpd:pft (correct group)05:07
svetlana"it"?05:08
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Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, the ftp root folder05:09
svetlanaand why are you not looking at its parent directories and the files within it?05:10
svetlanalike what I suggested05:10
Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, the root of that folder is owned by root:root05:10
svetlanathats probably a problem05:10
svetlanaif foo/ is owned by root and foo/bar is owned by ftp, then ftp won't be able to get in05:11
rwwchmod o+x /folder should fix it.05:11
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Jeeves_Mossthanks.05:12
Jeeves_Mossthat did it!  thanks!05:13
matty_rCould someone help me out troubleshooting my Wifi connection?05:14
svetlanaonly if you ask05:14
matty_rYea, typing up now :)05:14
matty_rIt's BCM4314 and consistently drops out sometimes every 30 mins, sometimes sooner. I'm running kernal version 3.14 on Ubuntu 14.04.05:16
matty_rI'm currently using brcmsmac drivers05:16
matty_r0a:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:4727] (rev 01)05:20
matty_rWhen it drops out it will ask for the password to the wifi again, sometimes it'll ask three times05:22
reversibleanHow do enable different framebuffer driver in grub2 other than the default vesafb driver?05:23
Jeeves_Mosssvetlana, looks like new users can't control their directories!  LOL05:23
svetlanasee umask05:25
FreewheelinFrankis it possible to enlarge /boot? the partition is too small for updates05:28
klyncguys, I applied some updates and /dev/dm-* are now missing. vgscan finds nothing05:28
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, unnecessary05:29
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, 100 mb is more than adequate.  why do you think you need to enlarge?05:29
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: Every time I attemp a system update it says /boot is too small05:29
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, when did you last clean out old kernels?05:30
klync`parted /dev/sdb print` shows "unrecognized disk label"05:30
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: I deleted all of them a while ago, manually, but now the directory appears to just have efi and grub directories05:31
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: the system updates do appear to be much larger than 100 mb!05:31
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, run this:  dpkg --list | grep linux-image05:31
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, spring cleaning:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove                                first removes no downloaded packages from prior updates, second remove old kernels.  it'll keep current kernel +1 old05:33
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: ok05:33
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: 1,129 mb freed05:34
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:34
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: will do, its still running the clean...05:35
erikkI'm using Ubuntu Gnome. Why does volume on my headset go to 0 if the volume on the panel is listed at anywhere below something like 40%?05:36
erikkSeems to scale fine with anything above this seemingly artificial / arbitrary minimum05:36
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: thanks, have saved those commands, not the first time I've had to ask for help!05:39
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, happy2help.  fixed your issue?05:39
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: still downloading packages...I usually do the update in GUI05:40
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: restarting05:42
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: yep that did it! Now if only I could get rid of the ubuntu one reminders...wont uninstall05:45
cfhowlettFreewheelinFrank, sorry, can't help with that one.  don't remember exactly how I fixed it05:47
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: its still telling me the service will end in June. Maybe I'05:48
awktionbtw good job guys, you didnt even manage to answer a simple q lol05:48
FreewheelinFrankcfhowlett: I'll just wait until it starts up again05:48
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matty_rSorry, my wifi dropped if there were any responses06:08
farbodhi06:22
farbodi want a Proxy for filterings06:23
farbod:(06:23
farbodsomething like Tor06:23
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farbodanyone is there?06:24
awktionproxy like tor?06:24
awktion!tor06:24
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl06:24
awktion!vidalia06:24
awktionhttps://www.torproject.org/docs/debian-vidalia.html.en #tor06:25
awktionfarbod: ^^06:25
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farbodawktion:i cant go tor project because its filter in Iran06:25
david__yo06:25
farbodi want some thing to break filterings :)06:25
farbod?06:26
Akiva-Thinkpadwhat is this I hear about an ubuntu developers edition?06:27
farbodanyone?06:27
shido6?06:28
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, hey just got here06:28
Akiva-Thinkpaddid you have a question?06:28
farbodyes i ask it06:28
Akiva-Thinkpadagain06:28
farbodwant some thing to break filterings :)06:28
Akiva-Thinkpadjust got here06:29
Akiva-Thinkpadwhat is a filterings?06:29
TheMesquitoAkiva-Thinkpad: <farbod> awktion:i cant go tor project because its filter in Iran <farbod> i want some thing to break filterings :)06:29
Akiva-ThinkpadTheMesquito, ah thanks06:29
Akiva-Thinkpad;)06:29
farbodin Iran facebook is filter and we cant go there without a filter breaker06:29
TheMesquito\o/06:29
lnoskhenHello. My Ubuntu 14.04 stuck at splash screen (welcome screen)? How to know whats going on from background? I'm new to ubuntu.06:30
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, good question...06:30
jorge2does empathy have an off the record messaging plugin?06:30
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, what is iran's native language?06:30
Akiva-Thinkpadarabic or pharsee?06:30
farbodPersian06:31
Akiva-Thinkpad!persian06:31
farbodand its Farsi not pharsee06:31
farbod:)06:31
farbodplease help me06:32
Akiva-Thinkpadah06:32
Akiva-Thinkpad!farsi06:32
ubottu#ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.06:32
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, the reason I suggest this channel06:32
Akiva-Thinkpadis because there is a good chance other iranian ubuntu users are in your situation06:32
Akiva-Thinkpadand found a good solution06:32
lnoskhen[14:32] (lnoskhen) Hello. My Ubuntu 14.04 stuck at splash screen (welcome screen)? How to know whats going on from background? I'm new to ubuntu. Anyone?06:33
farbodAkiva-Thinkpad: #ubuntu-ir is off now06:33
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, yah not too busy06:34
Akiva-Thinkpadsec06:34
Akiva-Thinkpadi'm looking up another solution06:34
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, btw; stick around in ubuntu-ir, so it will eventually attract more people.06:34
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod http://askubuntu.com/questions/357240/i-need-a-good-solution-to-bypass-internet-censorship-on-ubuntu06:35
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, http://askubuntu.com/questions/195952/how-to-access-blocked-sites06:36
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, hopefully one of those solutions will do. Good luck06:36
farbodAkiva-Thinkpad:yessss,its realy my problem06:36
farbodAkiva-Thinkpad:thank you very much06:36
Akiva-Thinkpadfarbod, no problem06:37
Akiva-Thinkpad:)06:37
crawlnAkiva-Thinkpad, you  use empathy at all06:38
jorge2does empathy have an off the record messaging plugin?06:38
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, not often, although I'd like to06:38
Akiva-Thinkpadwhy?06:38
vijai_hello06:38
crawlnhaving an issue with being able to clear the message log on the taskbar mail icon06:39
vijai_can somebody help me with rt3290 drivers for ubuntu 14.04?06:39
crawlntheres about 10 and they are all the same one lol06:39
dennis_201406:39
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Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, ah interesting. definitely worth a bug report06:39
Akiva-Thinkpadsec06:39
crawlnempathy is nothing but a bug06:40
crawlnI just want the damn icon and messages to go away06:40
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, I know what you mean; its horrid for irc :P06:40
NavborI need some advice loggin into ubuntu forums. Am I in the correct channel and if so can anyone assist?06:40
jorge2does empathy have an off the record messaging plugin?06:40
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, do you use it for facebook and other such things?06:40
crawlnwell i was playing with it now i can't get it to remove it self from that mail icon lmao06:41
crawlndon't think so jorge206:41
vijai_anybody?06:41
crawlnvijai_, what's it not doing06:41
Akiva-Thinkpadvijai_, rt3290 drivers??06:41
hamdounhi06:41
Akiva-Thinkpadis that a wifi thing?06:42
vijai_yes06:42
vijai_ralink rt329006:42
crawlnyeah it's wifi06:42
Akiva-Thinkpadvijai_, usually you don't need to install drivers; should work out of the box06:42
NavborI need some advice loggin into ubuntu forums. Am I in the correct channel and if so can anyone assist?06:42
crawln3290 there is a dirver out there that works for it06:42
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, sort of06:42
xanguajorge2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy_%28software%29#Security_issues06:43
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, #ubuntuforums has actual mods in it, which are actually very helpful06:43
crawlnyou've had to manually install the 3290 for ever06:43
vijai_Akiva: there is a known issue with 3290 and asus x550 notebooks06:43
Akiva-ThinkpadI had trouble logging in too; whats your issue?06:43
Akiva-Thinkpadvijai_, okay fair enough06:43
NavborSo wrong channel then?06:43
vijai_crawln: I tried compiling my own. But make failed to compile :/06:43
Akiva-Thinkpad!ask06:43
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:43
crawlnvijai_, did you try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/455030/ralink-rt3290-wifi-driver-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-0406:43
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, ask away06:43
Akiva-Thinkpadworst case scenario you will be sent to #ubuntuforums :P06:44
NavborOK, I had an SSO account, but somehow I can no longer login. I created a new one, and now when I use SSO login, it takes me to the redicrect screen (heading for the forums), with the correct user nam, but once in the forums,. I cannot post anything. I cannot find the new post button, and the top of the screen still says "HELLO UNREGISTERED"...?06:45
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, so you log in, and then you get logged out right away?06:46
NavborIt seems that way.06:46
BeldarNavbor, Ubuntu Forums?06:46
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, Same issue. Are you on public wifi?06:46
Akiva-ThinkpadI had the same issue*06:46
NavborNope, I have a secure wif connection,.06:46
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, try this; when you log in, and it asks for permission to use your real name, just switch it to what you currently have set06:47
NavborOK will try06:47
Akiva-Thinkpadand it will usually at least for me, let you stay logged in for about a minute or two :P06:47
crawlnsteam needs better games for linux systems06:48
NavborI treid now, but it does not ask for permission, it just gets used.06:48
LoshkiAkiva-Thinkpad: SSO? Single Sign On?06:48
NavborI think so06:49
Akiva-Thinkpadyep06:49
crawlnthe SSO has never really worked well06:49
vijai_crawln: No. I havent06:49
NavborWhat's the alternative?06:49
vijai_will try now :)06:49
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, try pluggining into ethernet, see if that works06:49
LoshkiSorry to derail, but who manages SSO. Is that a ubuntu app? I thought it was a microsoft thing?06:49
Akiva-Thinkpadotherwise, head to #ubuntuforums, they may have more up to date info than I06:49
NavborAkiva, I would, but I cannot post since I cannot login.06:50
crawlnSSO is an acronym. Nothing more06:50
Akiva-ThinkpadLoshki, think its canonical;06:50
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, yes, but try logging in while plugged to ethernet06:50
* crawln ^06:50
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, the reason is because  as I understand, wifi changes the addresses or something, and causes a log out06:51
Akiva-ThinkpadI'm not a network guy06:51
crawlnwifi never changes the address of anything.06:51
crawlnit's just bad scripting on the internal part06:52
NavborOK, maybe I need a bit more explanation. I am connected to the router via ethernet. The connection on the router is a secure one. Sorry I misunderstood the question earlier. I have an ethernet connected directly to a Centos server which manages all the security etc, and the Centos is inturn connceted to the router via ethernet.06:52
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, don't complain to me :S06:52
crawlnOh i'm not complaining06:52
crawlnjust stating a fact. they didn't think the session loggin through enough on their part.06:52
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, well.... considering what happened before06:53
Akiva-Thinkpadwith the forum being hacked06:53
crawlnSo they go to 1 login to rule them all :P06:53
Akiva-Thinkpadits sort of heads they win, tails we lose.06:53
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, works fine for launchpad :P06:54
crawlnlol06:54
Akiva-ThinkpadNavbor, So I failed you ;_;  try #ubuntuforums06:54
NavborAkiva, no problem, thanks for trying.06:55
crawlnFirst thing they'll say is cookies enabled :P06:55
LoshkiI found an SSO wikipedia page. Under unix/linux it says kerberized client applications (wow, is that *still* state-of-the-art?). Is that what Ubuntu uses?06:56
Akiva-ThinkpadThe forums have been largely supplanted by AskUbuntu.06:56
Akiva-ThinkpadLoshki, good question for #ubuntu-kernel maybe06:57
LoshkiAkiva-Thinkpad: I think I'll do a bit more research before I bother them. I just found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn06:59
Akiva-ThinkpadLoshki, maybe you will become a future contributor :)06:59
Akiva-Thinkpad(if you arent contributing now)06:59
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crawlnubuntu is only used until you get comfortable with linux. then it's arch :P07:00
LoshkiAkiva-Thinkpad: :-)07:00
crawlnI'm comfortable. Just lazy..07:01
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, Actually I disagree07:01
Loshkicrawln: yeah. What's so great about arch?07:01
Akiva-Thinkpadand the reason is because Unity has features arch lacks07:01
Akiva-Thinkpadand Unity on Arch is not a smooth experience.07:01
enchiladoAkiva-Thinkpad07:01
enchiladoCongratulations07:01
crawlnI like the rolling distro07:02
enchiladoYou are the first person I have met who likes Unity07:02
Akiva-ThinkpadAs a developer, I find a far superior workflow on ubuntu compared to arch.07:02
svetlanaenchilado, <307:02
crawlnmakes getting newer packages that fix things like memory leaks and crap that ubuntu won't update until a new release07:02
Akiva-Thinkpadenchilado, Oh I love it; it maximizes vertical screen realstate07:02
crawlnbut also means they break crap alot lmao07:02
Akiva-Thinkpadhmmm07:02
Akiva-Thinkpadhere, I can show you why I think its superior; let me share a video I made, and you will see my point07:03
Loshkienchilado: a *developer* who likes Unity. Curiouser and curiouser...07:03
Akiva-Thinkpadhttp://youtu.be/XEnoX7AB_-M?t=10m30s07:04
Akiva-Thinkpadhere, I fast forwarded it to its best feature in action.07:04
crawlnwhen unity figures out how to put a conky as the background and not use conky as a fake background we be in business lol07:04
xanguacrawln: isn't that because of compiz¿07:05
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, probably you would do it with xwinwrap07:05
crawlnxangua, yeah it's compiz07:05
Akiva-Thinkpadthats what you use to put screensavers as backgrounds07:05
crawlnconky still fun to play with07:05
crawlnlol07:05
crawlnblah i've had just about enough json schema's to last me a lifetime lol07:07
crawlnwhoever invented this is the devil.07:07
* crawln yes i know how came up with it.07:07
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, want to see something cool?07:08
crawlnsure07:08
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, http://i.imgur.com/m9sKenI.png07:09
Akiva-Thinkpadthe new terminal is beautiful07:09
crawlnits in the way07:09
crawlnAkiva-Thinkpad, http://imgur.com/6Xdjrwc07:11
crawlnAkiva-Thinkpad, and it goes out of the way07:11
Akiva-Thinkpadoh I use guake too07:12
Akiva-Thinkpadits very nice07:12
enchiladoAkiva-Thinkpad: the menu search feature looks useful, I suppose, but it seems like something that is not really reliant on the rest of unity07:12
Akiva-Thinkpadenchilado, You can program it in anything, however the feature exists and is a part of unity07:13
Akiva-Thinkpadand it is not a part of gnome shell, or kde, or xfce4, or anything else07:13
Akiva-Thinkpadso for the time being, arch users can talk, but its just ricer syndrome as far as I am concerned07:13
Akiva-Thinkpadthe new gentoo users07:13
crawlnwhat i don't need is random suggestions on it07:14
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, what are you talking about?07:14
crawlnthe suggestions filter07:14
crawln:P07:14
Akiva-Thinkpadwhich suggestions filter?07:15
kostkona bit ot, but there's also cool-old-term if anyone is interested https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term07:15
Akiva-Thinkpadthe dash or the hud?07:15
Akiva-Thinkpadkostkon, +107:15
crawlnhud07:15
kostkon:)07:15
Akiva-Thinkpadcrawln, I disagree; this often lets me know what other features are available.07:15
Akiva-Thinkpadand sometimes features have similar names and so it lets me know how to filter it better next time.07:16
crawlntype in screen and you get 'yellow screen' 'green screen' 'blue screen' each on is 1.9807:16
crawln:P07:16
Akiva-Thinkpadsometimes what I do, say for example in firefox for bookmarks, or Qt Creator for Macros, I append a tilde (~) to the command, so it makes it easy for me to grab it.07:17
Aikiloxhi guys07:20
Aikiloxdire need of help07:20
cfhowlett!ask | Aikilox07:20
ubottuAikilox: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:20
Aikiloxmy wireless connection works, but my etherned connection is disconnected07:21
Aikiloxin windows, it works just fine07:21
Aikiloxok. thanks ubottu. :)07:23
sergeyпривет07:23
cfhowlett!ru | sergey07:23
ubottusergey: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.07:23
Aikiloxanibody?07:27
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Akiva-ThinkpadAikilox, its a good question07:27
Akiva-Thinkpadi'm not a network fellow so I can't answer it;07:27
AikiloxI experienced this problem after I moved recently07:28
Akiva-ThinkpadAikilox, does ethernet work when wireless is disconnected?07:28
Aikiloxno, it does not07:28
Akiva-ThinkpadAikilox, very strange; what version of ubuntu are you running?07:28
Aikiloxlubuntu 14.0407:29
Akiva-Thinkpadhrmmmm07:29
Aikiloxbut this is a general problem. not working in manjaro either07:29
Aikiloxgeneral problem of mine :)07:29
Akiva-ThinkpadAikilox, bad answer, as said I am not expert in this area, but would you mind posting this question on Ask Ubuntu so future users who experience your problem can benefit from it as well?07:30
aukunhello07:30
aukundo you can help me?07:30
Aikiloxok Akiva07:30
aukunwhen i put in bash file a conditional  if[ $num < 0 ] then echo "no number" output a error07:32
Akiva-Thinkpadaukun, great question07:32
Akiva-Thinkpadaukun, for this stuff, Ive had great luck at #bash; they tend to be a really nice channel. ##linux is also good. Although if you stick around, I'm sure someone can answer your question.07:33
MeAndMyWorldHello07:47
MeAndMyWorldIs anyone here? :)07:48
malkaunsno07:48
cfhowlettMeAndMyWorld, all the time.  ask your ubuntu question07:48
MeAndMyWorldThank you07:48
MeAndMyWorldActually its not a ubuntu question per say07:48
MeAndMyWorldIm looking for a irc network07:49
MeAndMyWorldBut a bit more social........i see this has topics on phop, mysql, ubuntu itself etc07:49
MeAndMyWorldBut nothing really social07:49
MeAndMyWorldAny network you guys recommend for that?07:49
Akiva-ThinkpadMeAndMyWorld, #network is one of my favourite irc channels. It really is a good community there07:49
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MeAndMyWorld<Akiva-Thinkpad> but isnt that channel about networking?07:50
ouanoaukun, if [ $num -lt 0 ]; then echo "no number"; fi07:50
Akiva-ThinkpadMeAndMyWorld, like seriously; there are a lot of lousy irc channels out there full of hatred and evil, but #network just happens to full of really nice guys07:50
MeAndMyWorldI dont wanna talk about tech stuff right now out there07:50
MeAndMyWorldJust wanna have social talk07:50
Akiva-ThinkpadMeAndMyWorld, its unofficial... for more social...07:51
MeAndMyWorld"#network"?07:51
MeAndMyWorldLike that?07:51
Akiva-Thinkpadlet me double check07:51
MeAndMyWorldThere are only 3 people in htere lol07:51
Akiva-ThinkpadMeAndMyWorld, #networking -- sorry :P07:51
MeAndMyWorldLol ok ok07:51
MeAndMyWorldFirst thing i read is how a post error07:52
Evil_CreepHow do I shutup cron.daily update-notifier-common? I don't have a mail server on my private server and so have a gmail setup on my server so php sendmail works. But the Flash plugin update notification keeps e-mailing me and getting stuck in a resend loop because postmaster@mydomain.com doesn't exists.07:57
MeAndMyWorldCrontab?07:57
swebhow can i upgrade ubuntu server from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS07:58
MeAndMyWorldSudo apt-get install update-manager-core07:58
MeAndMyWorldDo-release-upgrade07:58
Evil_CreepIt doesn't need to be removed just shutuped... I don't need to know via e-mail every time the flash plugin for firefox is updated..07:59
swebMeAndMyWorld: i dont want to upgrate to 14.10 ... `do-release-upgrade` will work well ?07:59
cfhowlettsweb, that's not an upgrade, that' s beta testing.  14.10 has NOT been released.08:00
swebcfhowlett: if release the command still safe to be upgrade from LTS to upper LTS ?08:00
cfhowlettsweb, 14.10 is not lts08:00
cfhowlettsweb, and ubuntu doesn't have "upper LTS" - whatever that is.08:01
swebcfhowlett: i know ... `do-release-upgrade` always upgrade to later LTS version or latest version of Ubuntu08:01
cfhowlettsweb, latest RELEASED version ...08:01
Flannelsweb, cfhowlett: from 12.04, you would never upgrade directly to 14.10, you'll go to 14.04 (and then you could maybe go again to 14.10).  There's a configuration variable (in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades) that determines whether you'll ever go from 14.04 to 14.10 or if you'll wait for 16.04 (or technically, 16.04.1) to upgrade.08:03
swebFlannel: ty08:03
swebcfhowlett: ty08:03
cfhowlett!cookies | Flannel,08:03
ubottuFlannel,: Cookies are delicious delicacies.08:03
cfhowlettsweb, happy2help08:03
Flannelcfhowlett: You're probably looking for !cookie, but we get the idea ;)08:04
Evil_CreepSo do I just wipe out cron.daily to shutup the flash plugin has updated e-mail? It only has http://paste.ubuntu.com/8267855/08:05
matty_rd08:07
zmajahi guys, back again after running away yesterday08:07
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zmajaSo here's what im trying to do, and need help with doing: when i log into ubuntu, a terminal window should open up, a directory change command (cd foldername) needs to run, and after that another command. Also, the terminal window needs to stay open, and not close after running the last command08:09
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ni291187qualcuno può aiutarmi????08:22
parapanhi fellows ... I want to setup a live USB distro with posibility to install updates and softwares ....what should I go for ? a large capcity USB stick ? 32/64 GB or a speed one ? USB3 maybe ??08:23
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bazhang!usb | parapan 16/32 should do08:24
ubottuparapan 16/32 should do: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:24
bazhangsee the link on persistence parapan08:24
Evil_Creephttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226378 << Great flash drive and cheap. My has lasted more then a year.08:24
parapanbazhang: but what will serve me most on a USB install ..the space or the speed ??08:28
DusXMTparapan: the fact that you don't need to burn a CD08:28
* DusXMT finds08:28
bazhangparapan, neither . usb persistent will be slower.08:29
parapanDusXMT: I'm almost positive that on the CD you cannot burn additional files ..I need a persistent version :D08:29
DusXMTparapan: if you figure out how to edit .squashfs files, then you can08:30
parapanbazhang: K, I can live with that > any ideea about speed ? half the HDD speed ?08:30
zmajaneed to run two terminal commands on startup, any help?08:30
bazhangmuch slower parapan08:30
DusXMTzmaja: At boot, or login?08:30
zmajaDusXMT: login08:30
zmajaneed to run one after another, and terminal window needs to remain open08:31
parapanpffff ...So it is wothed than ? my problem is that my work laptop is encrypted HDD and also full of reporting and monitoring tools ...08:31
Evil_CreepA normal cheap 2.0 USB flash drive gets about 10MB/s.. The pricy 3.0 can do 100MB/s..08:31
parapanbazhang: and want to have this live persistent Ubuntu do do my own stuff without anyone sneaking around my system =))08:32
adyok08:32
parapanbazhang: I have USB3 port on the laptop that's why I was thinking about an USB 3 pendrive . .. .08:37
bazhangparapan, so make one and see08:38
Evil_CreepOk if no one knows how to fix the cronjob sending me e-mails (I've already tried googling a fix but haven't found one for the flash plugin update notification) is there a way to change the postmaster@domain.com to another e-mail. Gmail keeps trying to resent the e-mails but I don't have a mail server so postmaster doesn't exist.08:39
zmajaok, i got terminal to open on login08:49
phreakermoin moin08:49
zmajaadded gnome-terminal to startup applications08:49
zmajahow do i make it run two commands as well?08:49
tanghaowho can tell me how 同08:49
cfhowlett!cn | tanghao08:50
ubottutanghao: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw08:50
tanghaowho can tell me how to set the default encoding of mousepad on xubuntu 1408:50
bazhang!ibus | tanghao08:51
ubottutanghao: IBus is used to allow multilingual input such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean (CJK), Devanagari and Dravidian characters in !GUI applications - see also: !SCIM. For more info on Ibus see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus08:51
tanghaoi cannot get positive support in ubuntu-cn08:51
bazhangtanghao, see above08:51
tanghaobazhang, ,ok08:51
bazhangtanghao, be sure to set ibus, then restart it08:51
cfhowlett!kylin | tanghao,08:52
ubottutanghao,: Ubuntu Kylin is a variant of Ubuntu that focuses on Chinese users. It is a formal part of Ubuntu. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin08:52
tanghaobut i am not using the ibus,i am using the fcitx08:52
bazhangtanghao, try ibus then08:52
tanghaobazhang, thx08:52
tanghaoubottu, thx08:52
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)08:52
tanghaocfhowlett, thx08:53
cfhowletttanghao, happy2help08:53
zmajaany help for me too? :)08:53
bazhangzmaja, create a script for it , then place it in startup08:54
zmajawill the script keep terminal open after running?08:54
CageHello.08:55
tanghao我刚才再老外们的ubuntu频道问了一下那个问题,据说在ubuntu上使用ibus,没有中文乱码的困扰?真的假的08:55
bazhangzmaja, is that what you want to happen? you need to give way more info08:55
tanghaosorryy08:55
zmajagimme a sec, i think i got it08:55
andyfiedvery quick question, is xchat not maintained any more?08:55
tanghaoi reply a wrong place08:55
bazhangtanghao, ibus works fine. if set correctly08:56
bazhangandyfied, hexchat is08:56
bazhang!info hexchat | andyfied08:56
ubottuandyfied: hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.6.1-2 (trusty), package size 317 kB, installed size 1024 kB08:56
andyfiedbazhang, i'm on hexchat now, just setting it up with a nice theme08:56
zmajabazhang: ok, so after log in, a terminal window opens, a change directory command runs, then another command runs, and the window stays open08:56
zmajahow do i make that happen?08:56
andyfiedthanks for the info though :)08:56
zmajaupto now, i have terminal starting up using a startup application08:57
bazhangzmaja, ask here, or get help in #bash08:57
CageI think I'm in the wrong room, I was just looking to chat, can anyone suggest a better room for that? Most are dead, I'm new to this and guessing hasn't been effective.08:57
bazhangCage, #ubuntu-offtopic08:57
CageThanks.08:57
bazhangcage also use alis to search08:58
bazhang!alis | Cage08:58
ubottuCage: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*08:58
bazhangthe * wild cards * are key08:58
Senjiwhat I add a PPA for example ppa:gnome-desktop or some other ppa thats recomended to me via offhand comments, what guarantees the source of that PPA? i mean, it's not a url with a domain, where is this name->authority of ppas stored?08:58
Senjiwhen*08:58
bazhangSenji, no guarantee, you are on your own08:59
Senjino i mean, uh, how does my system know where to get the files from ppa:some-string-here09:00
bazhangSenji, if you mean the integrity, signing etc, thats launchpad09:00
Senjii'm just confused because it's not a url, so it must be contact an official ubuntu server and fetching the url from this string right?09:01
bazhangSenji, typically from /etc/apt/sources.list.d09:01
bazhanglaunchpad Senji09:01
bazhangnot an official ubuntu repo, Senji09:02
kostkonzmaja, either do gnome-terminal --commmand=your commands  or  you could create the script, then create a custom desktop file for it and set the Terminal key to True    more info here http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.1.html   you could find and edit a desktop file that's already on your system .e.g locate .desktop     make the desktop file executable, place it  in ~/.local/share/app09:04
kostkonlications   then in the startup apps window add the name of that file, e.g. if it's myapp.desktop, then add "myapp"09:04
kostkontoo long :/09:04
antoHi09:06
antoI have a problem09:06
antoLike when i ran my oracle command from my machine.. It takes 1 hr to get the data back. I'm trying to get 20 tables. I need to identify why it takes long time09:07
antoAny idea??09:07
htmlinprogressjava?09:07
htmlinprogressanto,  in progress XD09:08
antoYes java09:08
antoI just want to track the call oracle calls09:08
zmajathanks a lot kostkon, i'll try that09:09
antoSo that i can see where it get strucks??09:09
kostkonzmaja, np09:09
k1lleDHello everyone, i have a few question, first i have laptop Acer V3-772G with 8 ram, nvidia 750M video 4702MQ haswell processor. so i install ubuntu and fist thing is... when i start my laptop, and come login screen, i write my password, click log in, and watch 15-20 seconds only background photo... then everything shows up and is OK.09:09
rahI'm trying to get Google Hangouts working09:09
zmajaerrr, do my commands have a comma in between them?09:09
rahI have a webcam that works fine in Cheese09:09
k1lleDAnd 2nd thing is, my soundd is really low.. at windows 7 and windows 8 when i make sound 12-15 is more high then in ubuntu 50%...09:09
rahhowever. Google Hangouts reports that no webcam is found09:10
k1lleDsry about bad english...09:10
rahhow can I get my webcam to work?09:10
svetlanarah: don't use google hangouts. use tox. this is my personal view, anyway. a less-personal view would be to use empathy possibly, as it's more "stable".09:10
zmajaas in, i need to change directory then run a command, kostkon?09:10
htmlinprogressrah,  get the google hangout plugin ?09:10
kostkonzmaja, separate them using the semicolon aka ;09:11
zmajanice09:13
zmajathanks a lot man09:13
kostkonzmaja, np09:13
rahhtmlinprogress: I have the google hangout plugin; google hangouts wouldn't be able to report that no webcam is found, if I didn't have google hangouts09:13
zmajasaved me from rummaging thru google results ,lol09:13
kostkonzmaja, :)09:13
rahhow do I get my webcam working with google hangouts?09:15
RoBo_VI think I need swap for hibernation, I have 8GB ram. What is good way to set it up and how much space ?09:19
htmlinprogressrah,  https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangoutplugin/download.html you can try to install it. it may have the driver you need.09:20
k1lleDello everyone, i have a few question, first i have laptop Acer V3-772G with 8 ram, nvidia 750M video 4702MQ haswell processor. so i install ubuntu and fist thing is... when i start my laptop, and come login screen, i write my password, click log in, and watch 15-20 seconds only background photo... then everything shows up and is OK. Why i must wait that 15-20 sec, what is problem?09:24
k1lleDAnd 2nd thing is, my sound is really low.. at windows 7 and windows 8 when i make sound 12-15 is more high then in ubuntu 50%...09:24
N3uroNutRoBo_V you might wanna follow this tutorial: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/442430-increase-your-available-swap-space-with-a-swap-file09:25
rogierI installed "WinThumbnails" gnome extension. It does not really work and i can not remove it! How do I get rid of this monstrosity? (https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/335/winthumbnails/)09:26
N3uroNutrogier, how did you install it?09:27
rogierFrom the gnome website.09:27
N3uroNutwas it a debian package?09:27
rogierIts a shell extension.09:27
rogierI'm not sure. If you go the the website I linked to there is an on/ off switch.09:28
htmlinprogressrah,  http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ here is another way09:28
arpithye09:28
arpiti m new someone is here09:29
rogierTop comment suggest removing it from home folder but I can not find it there.09:29
kostkonk1lleD, first of all, check your logs. open the system log app, check for any errors in e.g. syslog, kern.log, Xorg.0.log   also check the .xsession-errors log, by doing e.g.  gedit ~/.xsession-errors09:29
N3uroNutrogier, okay here are several files that can be downloaded. which ones did you use?09:30
rogierI don't know. Just put the switch to "on" it then auto installs.09:31
kostkonk1lleD, for your volume level problem, check your hardware volume levels with alsamixer, open terminal, give:  alsamixer    better have a look at its manual first with   man alsamixer09:31
rogierSorry this is a gnome 3 problem, running debian. Just went to #ubuntu because I used ubuntu for years.09:31
cfhowlettrogier, !debian is your  channel09:32
rogierYes maybe more gnome channel? Although Ubuntu supports gnome 3?09:32
k1lleDkostkon:  what i should looking for in logs? there have like 350-400 rows log only about starting OS09:32
k1lleDokey i try alsamixer now09:32
rogierJust want to remove this peace of crap.09:32
kostkonk1lleD, for anything unusual, for lines containing words like warning, error, missing, etc.09:33
N3uroNutrogier, Sorry I'm not really a GNOME expert. but I think the extensions are stored somewhere in your home dir in a hidden folder09:34
N3uroNutmaybe if you delete the corresponding folder there you might get rid of it... but that's just a mere guess09:34
rogierBeen searching could not find. I will head over to #gnome09:35
rogierThnx!09:35
OnceMehello I have an issue yesterdY i changed pw with sudo passwd user and now i canot access gui09:35
OnceMewhy and how to fix it?09:35
N3uroNutur welcome09:35
DaemonErebusmaybe here: ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/09:35
OnceMei cant even this via terminal09:35
k1lleDso kostkon with error i find something, its a time when i start PC09:35
OnceMesu - stefan09:35
OnceMePassword:09:35
OnceMeSignature not found in user keyring09:35
OnceMePerhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'09:35
N3uroNutpushing a button in a browser to install some extensions really scares the crap outta me09:36
rahhtmlinprogress: err.. eh?09:36
rahhtmlinprogress: that's the webpage for a driver09:36
rahhtmlinprogress: what does that have to gdo with google hangouts?09:36
kostkonk1lleD, you said it takes a minute or so for the login process to complete09:36
rahhtmlinprogress: I already told you, I have the hangouts plugin installed09:36
rahhtmlinprogress: and I already told you that the webcam works in Cheese09:37
OnceMecan someone help me09:37
OnceMehelp me pls09:38
OnceMei want to use my ubuntu09:38
Valarkin_rah: Hangouts? You might be better off asking in the G+ communites or via a traget post09:38
Valarkin_*targeted09:38
rahValarkin_: I don't do G+09:39
rahValarkin_: what's "traget"?09:39
Valarkin_yet you do hangouts?09:39
N3uroNutOnceMe, can you open a terminal?09:39
kostkonk1lleD, you could try simple things, like resetting your gnome settings or your unity/compiz ones. although they are not very drastic, they will remove any customisations you may have applied, like themes, icons, widget placement, default apps, etc.09:39
Valarkin_it is corrected in the next line.09:39
OnceMeyes09:40
OnceMei09:40
OnceMebrb09:40
Valarkin_So 'you do not do' the place that will likely answer your question?09:40
Valarkin_good luchk with that.09:40
htmlinprogressrah,  that is the general driver that i use on all my pcs and it works alot of the time. either on eis my recommendation - then restart  and try again09:41
emxthere is a page that has links to minimalistic ubuntu images (i don't mean minimal cd). where do i find it?09:41
k1lleDkostkon:  i did nothing like customisations at my ubuntu. how to full reset it. and btw, there is the errors09:41
k1lleDhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8268506/09:41
emxnever mind: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core09:42
kostkonk1lleD, ok, could you post the contents of your .xsession-errors file09:42
k1lleDmmoment09:43
kostkonk1lleD, the slowness starts only after you login right?09:43
k1lleDkostkon:  yes, i log in click enter, and then 15-20 sec i watching only background photo and wait to show everything else09:44
kostkonok09:44
rahValarkin_: I don't do hangouts either but I have a job interview and they've requested to use hangouts09:44
rahhtmlinprogress: I have restarted, it hasn't helped09:44
k1lleDand first 30 seconds is like i cant open any program, i wait for any program 10-15 sec to open09:44
k1lleDand after 2-3 min started OS, everything is gone OK09:45
rahhow do I get my webcam working with google hangouts?09:45
kostkonk1lleD, you might want to check this: EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro09:46
kostkonk1lleD, you could backup your data, just in case, and then force a fsck09:47
k1lleDkostkon:  this is second HDD on laptop and i have 0 data to save.. there is ubuntu to learn things. so tell me what is the general problem? how i can fix it, where i to read about it?09:48
Valarkin_rah: Then you need to do them. All I am saying is that if you do a g+ search you will find the people who both know g+ and ubuntu09:48
Valarkin_I assure you this has been discssed there ;)09:48
He4dShOthey guys09:49
* Valarkin_ is much more knowledgable about G+ than Ubuntu ;)09:49
vitimitiI almost don't know about G+, I'm really clumsy about these social networks09:50
kostkonk1lleD, ok, then in a terminal give:   sudo touch /forcefsck    and then reboot09:51
He4dShOtI'm having some problem with the nvidia driver...if I install it X won't start automatically anymore, but with nouveau it will freeze 2 minutes after login09:51
Valarkin_I quite like it as a platform - I rent fuill public a couple of years ago09:51
Valarkin_feels really strange to be hiding behind handles again09:51
k1lleDkostkon:  okey09:51
Valarkin_oops, off topic, sorry09:51
htmlinprogressrah,   did you restart after the programs i recommended was installed?09:52
helmut_hi09:53
htmlinprogressrah,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam09:54
htmlinprogressrah,   if that does not work. that im out of idea with this headache- not you though just getting tired.09:55
richaci can't believe it.  I just got booted from the linux mint chat channel because I said I liked windows 709:55
k1lleDkostkon:  i am here, this thing have log.. ? where is it ?09:55
richac*banned09:55
kostkonk1lleD, has the situation improved?09:55
cfhowlettrichac, this channel is ubuntu - nothing to do with mint.  what is your ubuntu question?09:55
htmlinprogressrichac,  booted /kick /banned?09:55
richacya lol09:55
kostkonk1lleD, which driver are you using for your nvidia card09:56
richacthey must hate windows09:56
htmlinprogressall of them richac ?09:56
Valarkin_r4eligiusoit over OS09:56
richacall the linuxmint rooms09:56
k1lleDkostkon:  last, downloaded from nvidia official website09:56
Valarkin_religiosity*09:56
richaci said had problems starting the xserver09:56
k1lleDbut this processor have integrated video card, i think ubuntu use this one09:57
htmlinprogressrichac,  i have walk right into channels and told them boldly what i like and how to do that.[like windows 7 look on a linux box for my mom]09:57
richaci don't know what happend i rebooted and it wouldn't load up,    so they told me to uninstall windows since i was dual booting09:57
richacand i told them i like windows too much and my reasons and they banned me09:57
cfhowlett!ot09:57
richaci'm stunned09:57
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:57
htmlinprogress!off-topic09:57
richacis there an offtopic room?09:57
htmlinprogressoff-topic09:57
richacthjats actually the room i went into on linuxmint too...and they still banned me09:58
htmlinprogressim not sure what they call it now but its there09:58
richacok09:58
k1lguys, just read the bots message. htmlinprogress richac09:58
k1lleDkostkon:  now when i start show me one checking for .. erros on drivers or i dont know what, and little faster like 8-10 sec shows after log in.09:58
htmlinprogressk1l,  whats the channel for offtopic ?09:59
k1lleDbut on my old laptop my ubuntu show everything at 1 sec after log in..09:59
cfhowlett!ubuntu-offtopic09:59
htmlinprogressthanks cfhowlett09:59
cfhowletthtmlinprogress, happy2help09:59
htmlinprogressyes cfhowlett ?10:00
k1lhtmlinprogress: ubottu already told you. just sroll back and read what poeple and the bots told in here10:00
antoany utility script to track the db calls to an specific port?10:01
antoany idea?10:02
kostkonk1lleD, yes, that was the fsck screen. so we are talking about a 50% improvement, more or less10:02
cfhowlettanto, might want to ask #bash or ##linux10:02
k1lleDokey :) what is fsck ?10:03
kostkonk1lleD, system app that checks the filesystem for errors10:03
k1lleDmhm, okey10:03
htmlinprogressk1l,  yeah and i moved to a different challagel as stated in this channel rules10:04
k1lleDhow i can check wich one video card using ubuntu right now, i have 2, integrated intel HD Graphics 4600, and nvidia 750M10:04
k1lleDand how exacly to check drivers10:05
k1lleDversions10:05
izarryhow to connect other channel on ubuntu?10:05
TheJaume24CLannnn10:07
rahhow do I get my webcam working with google hangouts?10:09
k1lleDrah:  did actually your webcam work? on skype or something like this? i think there is no problem to work ont hangouts too...10:11
minimecrah: open this url in chromium-browser or google chrome for a start...10:11
minimechttp://www.google.com/hangouts/10:11
k1lleDrah:  what browser using?10:13
rahk1lleD: yes, it works in cheese10:13
rahminimec: I've installed google hangouts, that's how I know it isn't working10:13
rahk1lleD: chrome10:14
k1lleDwell let me install hangouts to check my work or no10:14
minimecrah: ok. Is this a USB webcam or an integrated laptop cam? what does 'ls /dev/video*' give you?10:15
k1lleDcan be video010:16
cfhowlettrah, if it works in cheese, you have good webcam drivers. sounds like configuring google hangouts is your issue.  DID YOU open google hangouts in chrome as was suggested?10:16
BluesKajHiyas all10:19
cfhowlettBluesKaj, hey bubba!10:20
BluesKajhi cfhowlett10:20
rahminimec: it's a usb webcam, and /dev/video0 is present10:22
rahcfhowlett: yes, I opened google hangouts in chrome10:22
rahI'm trying to get Google Hangouts working.  I have a webcam which works fine with Cheese however, in a video call in Google Hangouts it tells me no device is found.10:23
k1lleDrah:  how you install hangouts, from where?10:23
k1lleDmy cam works pervectlly fine at hangouts10:24
rahk1lleD: from google10:24
k1lleDchromium or chrome10:24
minimecrah: ok. So I guess you shouldn't have major problems. Looks like you have a working UVC based Webcam...10:24
rahk1lleD: chrome10:24
k1lleDhmm10:25
minimecrah: Are you logged in to that chrome hangout window? We could check whether the cam works...10:25
rahminimec: yes, I'm logged in10:26
k1lleDrah: you have PM10:26
minimecrah: if you '/notice minimec <your_hangout_name>' here in the chat window, I should get your hangout name. I could then try to find you...10:27
rahminimec: I'm not sure what you mean by "hangout name" but my email address is rah@bash.sh10:28
rahwhich I'm not concerned about hiding10:28
rahthanks10:28
rockwoodYou don't have permission to access /cyberiaaxis on this server.10:28
rockwoodwhere i have to allow for this folder10:28
minimecrah: Ok. I got you. I never used that hangout thing. I will try to call you now, ok?10:29
rahminimec: ok10:29
minimecok. My mic is off... ;)10:30
rahcan you hear me?10:30
minimecrah: Wait. I have Sky Formula 1 running here ... ;)10:30
rahlol10:31
minimecrah: OK. You seem to be gone now...10:31
rahlikewise10:32
minimecrah: "The video call ended because of an error"10:32
minimecrah: ok. connected again.10:32
minimecrah: I guess, you cannot see my cam image, can you?10:33
rahI cannot, no10:33
rahthis.. doesn't seem to work :-/10:34
rahshit10:34
minimecrah: Ok. Now I get a message to install the plugin...10:34
rahhmm10:34
minimecrah: ok. Switched to firefox with the google-talk-plugin. You will be invited right now...10:41
minimecrah: My cam seems to be running now...10:42
helloubuntuhi10:44
helloubuntui need help as i am unable to search for apps in dash10:44
drvanonI messed up my apache2 config, and I want to completely reinstall it. It should also revert file permissions is this possible?10:45
rahminimec: I didn't get an invite; sent you a call10:45
rahit looks.. like this doesn't work :-/10:45
rahI'm going to use smelly Windows :-/10:46
rahminimec: thanks for the efforts10:46
minimecrah: Yeah. I heard the call, but did not know how to accept. ;)10:46
rahI have to go and buy a webcam10:46
emxhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core <-- how do i add a local user and password?10:46
minimecrah: No problem Wanted to know, how it works too. So I can say that I have voice and video running in firefox with hte google-talk-plugin, but CPU is high...10:47
minimecrah: Next try. INvitation sent...10:47
drvanonI keep getting a 403 on my apache2 server. I think I did all the file permissions right. What is going on?10:48
bekksdrvanon: Take a look at the apache logs - and 403 indicates that permissions arent set correctly. What did you cahnge where?10:48
bekks*change10:48
drvanonclient denied by server configuration: /var/www/10:49
bekksdrvanon: So which permissions did you change where?10:49
drvanon<Directory /var/www/html>    Require all granted </Directory>10:49
drvanonwww root:root  (-R) -> www-data:www-data10:50
emxwhat prevents me from logging in as root?10:50
helloubuntuunable to search any apps in dash10:50
minimecrah: Looks better. We seem connected. Do you hear Johnny Herbert speaking? ;)10:50
bekksemx: Thefact that there is no root password set so you cannot log in as root.10:50
rahminimec: I do indeed10:50
bekks!root | emx10:50
ubottuemx: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:50
rahminimec: so your webcam works10:50
rahminimec: mine doesn't :-/10:51
minimecrah: What about the image? Voice comes via logitech headset10:51
rahyep, I can see the image as well10:51
rahthis is weird10:51
rahI can see my own IRC text over webcam10:51
rahthis is a novel experience :-)10:52
* rah puts windows side-by-side to see it in real-time10:52
rahlol10:52
minimecrah: So I have a Logitech Webcam Sphere, I am running firefox right now with the google-talk-plugin-64bit. Up and running... Cpu is rather high, but it's working.10:52
rahwell I'm using chrome10:53
rahI'll see if firefox is any better10:53
emxbekks, then how do i add a user? i know i need to edit /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. but what do i need to take care of?10:53
minimecrah: I have to leave you for a moment. I have to do some weekend shopping. Will be back in an hour for the formula 1 qualifying. We can continue testing then... OK?10:54
rahminimec: ok, thanks for the help10:54
emxthe thing is: i have a running linux on amd64 arch. the system i try to get running is arm arch.10:54
bekksemx: ou dont edit those files manually. Never. Do not. Dont. Use "useradd" instead.10:54
emxbekks how?10:54
bekksemx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto10:54
emxhow do i run a useradd for (chrooted) arm arch on a amd64 arch?10:54
bekksemx: you cannot chroot into some installation for a different architecture.10:55
bekksemx: what are you actually trying to do there?10:55
emxbekks, i can chroot, but i can't run a program.10:55
bekksemx: because arm is a totally different architecture than amd64.10:56
emxbekks, adding a user to the arm image i got from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core10:56
emxbekks, i know10:56
bekksemx: If you knew that, you wouldnt try to do that ;)10:56
emxthe easiest way to fix this in my opinion is temporarily setting a root password10:56
emxbekks, that's why i never tried.10:56
* emx is a little wannabe software engineer :P10:57
bekksemx: you just said you are trying to chroot into an arm installation from a amd64 host. Thats impossible.10:57
emxbekks, you can chroot10:57
bekksemx: amd64 cannot run arm code, so you cannot run anything.10:57
emxbekks, that's correct10:57
emxbut how do i add a user?10:57
bekksemx: so whatever you are trying there, using chroot is pointless, since you cannot run useradd inside that chroot.10:58
emxbekks, i know10:58
emxi can boot my arm platform but can't log in because root has no pw and i can't (or shouldn't) add a user without running any program.10:59
jackbrownI have a device on my lan 192.168.1.103 that show info about it's fucntionin, Is there a way to put it in trasparence and live on my desktop ? I mean  as  docklet or something like that11:01
bekksjackbrown: Can you be more precise please? Which device? Showing what exactly?11:02
jackbrownbekks: it's an idraulic devices that has some data and it refresh webpage every second almost I'd like to have it on my desktop in trasparence this is the page I need to put on my background11:03
jackbrownbekks: sorry if I sent you the link in PM it's for privacy11:03
bekksjackbrown: Well, that page does not contain any vital private data. However, I dont know any docklet/app/etc. that displays a webpage on the desktop in background.11:04
jackbrownbekks: ok thanks anyway11:05
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rahhmm11:07
rahit works in firefox :-/11:07
somsipjackbrown: you could use conkey as the desktop applet/thingy and write a script to scrape certain data from the webpage and make it available to docky to display11:10
somsip!conky | jackbrown11:10
flipswith lubuntu/lxde-desktop on ubuntu 14.04, is it possible to turn off "show window contents" while moving windows around? (Seems this graphics card is quite crappy -- server hw)11:10
somsip!info conky | jackbrown11:10
ubottujackbrown: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.0-4 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 42 kB11:10
jackbrownsomsip: conky it's actually very hard to configure did they made a userfriendly GUI to do that?11:11
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somsipjackbrown: no idea - I've not used it for ages but was able to set it up in CLI when I did11:11
jackbrownsomsip: any will to help me ?11:11
somsipjackbrown: honestly, no. Just passing by my computer and made the suggestion. AFK any moment now11:12
jackbrownsomsip: don't you have any prebuilt configuration that I could Use ?11:12
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TK___Hrishi, hello.11:14
Netham45http://i.imgur.com/2ToVRRv.png from mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:width=640:height=480:outfmt=rgb2411:19
Netham45ffmpeg gives http://pastebin.com/5ewXb2BF as output11:20
Netham45Anyone got any ideas?11:20
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Netham45I'm using a custom-built kernel, so if it looks like I fubar'd it, what do I need to fix?11:20
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bekksNetham45: Use an officially supported kernel instead.11:21
Guest817I would like to import X-ray pics from3 Cds into Aeskulap.  I haven't yet succeeded.  Anyone wanna helpl me do that?11:21
Netham45bekks, that's a useless answer.11:21
bekksNetham45: Well, custom built kernels arent supported in here.11:22
Guest817I use Ubuntu 14.0411:23
Guest817voidfire: I had to trash my partitions - both of them.11:24
Netham45bekks, funny, I don't see that rule anywhere.11:24
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mannetahi11:33
voidfireGuest817 left huh/ ? :(11:33
voidfiresadly I didnt recover his encrypted folder contents11:34
therealjayviI just reinstalled Ubuntu because it was quite clear I had no idea what I was doing when I installed it the first time. Since I have a fresh new install this time what should I do now? Isnt there some commands i need to run before I go too far?11:34
voidfiretherealjayvi:  install xubuntu for starters11:35
ActionParsnipvoidfire: why not use your backups?11:35
voidfireless unity and clutter and spy stuff11:35
therealjayviwhats that and how do I get there from here11:35
vitimitiThere's no spy stuff, dude11:35
voidfireActionParsnip: it wasnt my encryption dir.. i tried to help someone in here but he couldnt remember his passphrase at all11:35
voidfirenor try11:35
therealjayviI like seriously messed up my profile the first time , it was pretty bad11:36
vitimititherealjayvi, it's another distro based off ubuntu, with the xfce desktop instead11:36
ActionParsnipvoidfire: yes, there is no "spy stuff" in Ubuntu11:36
voidfirevitimiti: I thought unity was tracking searches and stuff11:36
voidfirei'll take that back and I ask for forgiveness then11:36
vitimitivoidfire, you can deactivate it, and will most likely be deactivated by default in next releases11:36
vitimitiAnd "spy" is that it uses web search and amazon search11:36
therealjayvisoooo run something in the terminal and then its added...?11:37
ActionParsnipvoidfire: the searches can be sent to Amazon, but each user is not individually identifiable11:37
therealjayvii literally know nothing about linux like pretty much straight nub11:37
voidfireaverage person doeesnt want to let amazon have his interests and targeted ads and and you know.. I said sorry already :)11:37
therealjayvibut I get  the basics11:37
ActionParsniptherealjayvi: what do you want to achieve?11:37
vitimitivoidfire, deactivate it until it's deactivated by default11:37
voidfiretherealjayvi:  what I did was getting xubuntu then running some commands to turn it to uberstudent. nothing broke or not working plus some educational material. but I wont vouch for it11:38
voidfirevitimiti: maybe some of the user will do. others wont even know about  ;p11:38
vitimitiI'd rather use Lubuntu than Xubuntu11:38
therealjayviI wiped my drive and installed from usb and it runs pretty good but the first time I was following some random guide online and after install I had to like run some commands to update library11:38
ActionParsniptherealjayvi: update which library?11:39
vitimitivoidfire, if you don't like it, you'll google for it. It's a few clicks away11:39
therealjayviand I think thats why a lot of things arent working for me now becuase I dont really know what to type out and im afraid of messing things up11:39
therealjayviyou know I really dont know >.<11:39
therealjayvibut the one thing I learned is to not follow what random people decide to post on google searches thats for sure11:40
ActionParsniptherealjayvi: just get system updates and get your hardware working11:40
voidfiretherealjayvi:  keep backups and never bee afraid of breaking the universe of ur personal machine , its not a production or anything important you can always reinstall  and you keep what you ve learned from your mistakes11:40
therealjayviseems like everything is working so far but how do I make sure?11:40
therealjayviI mean moreso like how do I get latest drivers for my laptop?11:41
ActionParsniptherealjayvi: just use the hardware as you expect11:41
voidfiretherealjayvi:  aside from random people there are ubuntu forums as well as stackoverflow and similar sites that state ubuntu and the particular version as well as which answer is accept as correct11:41
vitimitiYou can use the additional drivers program if you want privative drivers that are available for ubuntu11:41
vitimitiprivative*11:42
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therealjayviawesome thanks for the help so I should be good then yeah? oh I remember now it wasnt libraries I meant sources. Do I have to do anything before I take off to like add to them or something?11:43
therealjayvibecause I'm getting some weird reactions to trying to download and install stuff in my terminal11:44
ActionParsniptherealjayvi: as long as the system is working ok then why fix it ;-)11:44
voidfiretherealjayvi: what are you trying to dl and install? :)11:44
therealjayvihaha good call :) I am trying to install teamviewer so that my buddy and I can be lazy and dont have to walk across the room to look at each others screens haha11:45
HrishiHow can I stop the Apache service from being auto-started each time I reboot? I don't want to uninstall Apache11:46
ActionParsniptherealjayvi: there is an official guide for teamviewer but the requirement seems a bit weak imho11:47
x_hollow11:47
ActionParsnipHrishi: you can add the command to stop apache in /etc/rc.local or we can remove it frrom startup...11:47
ActionParsnipHrishi: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue11:48
x_有人没11:48
pi_sudo stop apache11:48
eeee!cn | x_11:48
ubottux_: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw11:48
ActionParsnippi_: trying to automate it each boot.11:49
esseksHi guys! Is it possible to modify the mini.iso image in order to bot it in UEFI mode? I need the advanced text mode installer for a custom setup. A few days ago, someone suggested to try the DVD as well, but I would like someone to confirm it has the advanced installer and it can boot in UEFI mode before embarking in the 5GB download (sorry, slow connection here)11:50
HrishiActionParsip, how can I remove it from start up?11:52
emxis there a tutorial how to set up a core ubuntu system? (setting up LC_*, keyboard layout for consoles, setting time and so on?)11:52
ActionParsnipHrishi: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue , please11:53
eeeeHrishi: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 disable11:53
eeee(or enable, to enable it)11:53
metaphysicianHow can I ensure the authenticity, integrity of these kernels at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?11:53
metaphysicians/ensure/confirm/11:53
ActionParsnipmetaphysician: how do you mean "authenticity"?11:54
ActionParsnipmetaphysician: its a PPA, it comes with the same caveats as any other PPA11:54
ActionParsnipmetaphysician: as usual, we cannot support packges from PPAs in this chanmel11:55
HrishiActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l.11:55
Hrishieeee, thanks!11:55
eeeenp11:55
metaphysicianActionParsnip: where is Release and Release.gpg of the PPA?11:55
HrishiActionParnsip, eee, can you tell me which file store the information about start up services?11:55
ActionParsnipmetaphysician: no idea. Sorry.11:56
eeee/etc/init.d/apache211:56
eeeei think that's what starts it11:56
ActionParsnipmetaphysician: is the offiical Ubuntu kernel not running your hardware fully?11:56
ActionParsnipeeee: thats the script to start and stop it11:57
eeeeyeah i know, what i said, that's what starts it11:57
ActionParsnipeeee: the sym11:57
dbuggerHi guys. I have an issue: After doing "vagrant up" I type "http://localhost:4567" in the browser but I get a "This webpage is not available" message. I think Im being redirected back to port 80, because the URL changes from "localhost:4567" to simply "localhost". What could be happening here??11:57
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ActionParsnipeeee: the symlinks in /etc/rc.X , makes it start or stop at boot?11:57
eeeeHrishi: what are you trying to achieve?11:58
Hrishieeee, I do not uninstall Apache, but don't want it to be auto-started.12:03
eeeeHrishi: ok, that will do just that12:04
eeeeHrishi: why do you ask about the startup files?12:04
eeeeor services12:04
zarahoestraniggers12:05
Hrishieeee, I thought there could be a config file that holds all the start up services and maybe I could comment out the line with Apache..12:05
ActionParsnip!ops | zarahoestra12:05
ubottuzarahoestra: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang12:05
zarahoestrathe uk did you do12:06
ActionParsnipHrishi: sudo update-rx.d -f apache2 disable12:06
ActionParsnipHrishi: just as eeee said earlier12:06
eeeeHrishi: no, the files are symlinks in /etc/rcX.d12:07
eeeeHrishi: if you want to see running services type service --status-all12:07
Hrishieeee, got it!12:07
ActionParsnipzarahoestra: do you have a support question?12:08
HrishiWhat does rc stand for? Like in /etc/rcX.d and in .emacsrc?12:08
eeeeHrishi: runcom12:08
eeee( run commands )12:09
ActionParsnipHrishi: runtime configuration12:09
ActionParsnipIsn't it?12:09
zarahoestrai have12:10
zarahoestrahow the fuck do i kill my mother with ubuntu12:11
ActionParsnipzarahoestra: you can use it to control something, like a weapon or such12:11
ActionParsnipzarahoestra: usb or com port or similar12:12
MonkeyDustzarahoestra  and mind your language12:12
metaphysicianActionParsnip: yeah, the 3.13 kernel in trusty has a bug: ethernet controller goes missing after resuming from suspend to RAM. It has been fixed in 3.14 kernel. https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/12/6112:15
abcZilla:hai12:17
ActionParsnipmetaphysician: feel free to install the kernel, but it won't be supported here. Be sure to get the same arch as the current kernel :-)12:18
metaphysicianActionParsnip: yes, the problem is those kernels are not cryptographically signed by Ubuntu official. So someone could MITM me while I download them.12:19
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qwequit12:20
ActionParsnipmetaphysician:  bit paranoid....12:21
HrishiAny Emacs user here?12:30
TechChristophNo vim12:31
HrishiWhat is the purpose of /etc/issue?12:36
MonkeyDustHrishi  to show your release version12:38
HrishiMonkeyDust : Thanks.12:39
si7adbyhi to all. Can anyone tell me what's the key to press to make totem play video again at normal speed? I, by mistake, pressed some keys and now the video speed is faster than normal.12:39
wapiflapiHi guys. How does fan control work? I'm using a Dell Latitude laptop, fans are always turning at full speed. I get it working when using i8kutils (and disabling bios control for fans) b ut that doesnt look like somthing that will automatically make the fans turn faster when needed.12:43
wapiflapiAm I correct in assuming this is will not manage the fans according to temperature ? And what would be the right tools to use for this ?12:44
MonkeyDustwapiflapi  is this useful http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/12:46
MrElendigthings might have changed a bit since 200812:47
MrElendigjust a warning12:47
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wapiflapiI'm reading, first thing I don't like is its just a list of commands and doesnt actualy explain anything.12:48
si7adbyso anyone can answer me?12:49
MrElendigwapiflapi: read the lm_sensors docs12:49
MrElendigasuming your fans are controllable using pwm from software12:49
wapiflapidoes lm_sensors control fans ? Doesnt sound obvious with the name only12:49
wapiflapiwill take a look at the docs, thanks for the pointer!12:49
MrElendigit comes with a tool named pwmcontrol12:49
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MonkeyDustwapiflapi  additional: this is an easy way to monitor your computer's temperature, in terminal: watch -n 1 -d sensors    <-- 1 second interval12:50
MrElendigand fancontrol12:50
MrElendigi8kutils is usually what you want for dell boxes though12:51
MrElendigit is configurable12:51
wapiflapithe thing I dont understand is when everyone talks about "monitoring" does that involve changing fan speed automatically or will it just tell me my laptop is overheating and that I should change fan speed manually ?12:51
MrElendigwapiflapi: make sure you have auto enabled in  /etc/i8kutils/i8kmon.conf12:52
MrElendigand that i8kmon is actually running12:52
wapiflapiThat sounds helpfull, thanks didnt know about the auto option12:52
Ruruikhello all, i want to ask, does low ram comsumesion will make also low power?12:52
MrElendigRuruik: generally no12:52
MrElendignot on x86 anyway12:52
RuruikMrElendig: and how i make my computer can run below normal for the power?12:53
MrElendigon some other architectures it might, but the difference is usually not significant12:53
RuruikMrElendig: so it doesn't12:53
MrElendigcpu scaling makes a much bigger difference12:53
MrElendigand if this is a laptop then screen brighness is the biggest factor12:53
RuruikMrElendig: and how if i change my laptop ram to lowvo?12:54
MrElendigRuruik: laptops generally don't let you change the ram voltage12:54
MrElendigand many even ignores memory profiles12:54
MrElendigxmp/spd profiles that is12:55
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RuruikMrElendig: so if i buy a big hi cap battery is that great option? or stick with the wall electric cable?12:55
MrElendigdepends on what your actual requirements are12:56
MrElendigthe hardware, the workload etc12:56
flipsInstalled som packages from a repository. Want to downgrade. Commented out the sources.list.d/repofile entries, have the list of the packages I want to downgrade ... but can't remember how to force apt to fetch older versions12:57
wapiflapiMrElendig: looks like i8kmon is started as: tclsh /usr/bin/i8kmon --daemon --nouserconfig --auto12:58
wapiflapiAnd I can't find any config files12:58
MrElendigshoukd be one in /etc12:58
wapiflapibut I supose since its started with --auto it should be safe to deactivate bios control for the fans right ?12:59
BluesKajwapiflapi, do you have / and /home partitions?12:59
wapiflapiI do12:59
BluesKajwapiflapi, why not just install the previous release in / , then your settings and configs are still available as is your data13:00
wapiflapiNew laptop, old settings are irelevant13:01
BluesKajas long as you tell ubiquity to use the .home mountpoint with formatting in manual partitioning13:02
BluesKajnew laptop or not, a new install of the older OS will still work better than fooling the sources etc13:03
wapiflapi'm not sure we're talking about the same thing BluesKaj13:03
BluesKajperhaps not , maybe i misread13:03
wapiflapiI installed ubuntu not so long ago, today I got tired of hearing my laptop fan turning full speed all the time and decided to takle the problem.13:04
MrokiiHello. What is an easy / standards compliant way to convert an avi-file to a DVD? I tried DeVeDe, but it doesn't work for me as, despite my attempts to change the path, it always tries to write its tmp-file to the system-HD (which doesn't have enough free space).13:04
MonkeyDustMrokii  try winff, a frontend to ffmpeg13:05
MrokiiMonkeyDust: Okay, will try, thanks.13:05
wapiflapiMhm now I need to find something that would cause the fans to spin fast to see if it works. Anyone has a good test in mind ?13:06
MonkeyDustwapiflapi  a youtube video13:06
wapiflapicompiling chrome should do the trick13:06
wapiflapiOh youtube video sounds god, not sure if the fans are suposed to make noise though13:06
wapiflapiAlso crapy connection :/ Lets go for chrome compil13:07
BluesKajrun an HD video13:07
cfhowlettwapiflapi, 1080 dpi out to do it.13:07
_unreal_hello i have 14.04 with xfce, i'm looking to install network-manager13:08
_unreal_seeking help on how to do so13:08
MonkeyDust_unreal_  i guess it's called nm-tool13:08
pi_sudo apt-get install network-manager13:08
_unreal_since I finally got my broadcom wifi card working13:09
_unreal_ok, according to ubuntu software center its installed already. great..... now how do I get it to be on the desktop??13:12
wapiflapiok fans do automatically turn on, (took a while and 1080p is not enough aprently)13:13
wapiflapichrom compil did the trick though13:13
wapiflapithanks for your help everyone13:13
Aikilox<Aikilox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/520757/ethernet-network-disconnected-wireless-working13:16
Aikilox<Aikilox> if anybody can answer to this, please13:16
Aikilox<Aikilox> thank you13:16
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MonkeyDustAikilox  what's the output of: cat /etc/network/interfaces|pastebinit13:19
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Aikiloxhttp://pastebin.com/G9eiY7D513:23
MonkeyDustAikilox  does this show something: ethtool -i eth0     (or eth)13:26
MonkeyDustAikilox  does this show something: ethtool -i eth0     (or eth1)13:26
compdocprobably have to install ethtool13:27
Aikiloxhttp://pastebin.com/KTdr6hPq13:28
Aikiloxi had to, yes13:28
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MonkeyDustthat's a lot of no's there13:29
_unreal_any one big on networking? I am using a DSM-G600 its a NAS server but has built in wifi, I have it setup as an access point. but I seem to be only able to connect one device at a time via WIFI? now I was going threw the settings on it. and I noticed there is an area for channels, and its set to a channel but there is a checkbox that says auto select. could that effect multi devices being able to connect to the access point?13:31
compdocshouldnt affect it13:33
AikiloxMonkeyDust, to yes everything13:39
Aikilox?13:39
josmalaHow can I get 32bit openGL running with my radeon 4670. 3D works in 64bit apps work but wine needs 32bit to run at all.13:42
MonkeyDustAikilox  ifdown and ifup come to mind, moment13:44
MrokiiMonkeyDust: I used WinFF to convert the avi to an mpg (that's all it does apparently). Do you know how I can burn the resulting mpg as a DVD?13:45
essekswapiflapi, just a word of warning: be aware that forcing the fan to a certain speed might overheat the CPU and ultimately cook it. Just in case ;)13:46
MonkeyDustAikilox  try: sudo ifup eth0   (or eth1)13:46
cfhowlettMrokii, brasero13:46
MonkeyDustMrokii  brasero13:46
MonkeyDustcfhowlett  was faster13:46
wapiflapiesseks: exactly that's the problem I was having, all solutions I found forced a certain fan speed ;)13:47
wapiflapigot it working with i8kmon --auto13:47
Mrokiicfhowlett, MonkeyDust: Thanks, will try.13:47
wapiflapishould work fine right ?13:47
cfhowlettMrokii, happy2help13:48
dunpealHi. I'm trying to install 14.04.1 from USB onto my friend's Vaio laptop. Problem is, when I try to "boot from USB", all I get is a black screen with blinking cursor.13:48
dunpealHow do I debug this?13:48
MonkeyDust!nomodeset | dunpeal13:48
ubottudunpeal: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:48
dunpealMonkeyDust: I don't even get a purple screen...13:49
Mrokiicfhowlett, MonkeyDust: Brasery tells me that the mpg isn't suitable for audio or video media. :-(13:49
cfhowlettMrokii, what?!!  wait 113:49
MonkeyDustMrokii  can you play the mpg with VLC?13:50
fribi have a bluetooth chip that ubuntu doesn't support oob.  so I added the product/vendor id to btusb.c and found a script to load the firmware that i extracted from windows driver (http://paste.ubuntu.com/8270171/).  for weeks this was working but all of a sudden, today it doesn't and all i have to go off of is a dmesg error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8270212/ -- can anyone help? thanks13:51
esseksdunpeal: wild guess, might be Secure Boot interfering in UEFI mode (no, it should not happen, but still...)13:51
cfhowlettMrokii, vlc-player?13:52
dunpealesseks: this is an old laptop, it doesn't even support secure boot.13:52
esseksdunpeal, how did you create the installation media?13:52
dunpealesseks: usb-creator-gtk13:53
dunpealesseks: I verified all the MD5-sums already, everything checked out.13:53
acidrain_.13:53
MrokiiMonkeyDust, cfhowlett: I haven't tried VLC, but it works fine in mplayer.13:53
acidrain_hello. in ubuntu 14, when i run, for example: "gksudo sublime" how do i make it so it detaches from the terminal. instead of terminal giving me feedback on everything i do, and waiting on the app to close?13:54
cfhowlettMrokii, vlc-player runs on a different set of codecs.  might be able to burn your dvd.13:54
esseksdunpeal, some tools get it wrong. Try using ddrescue or dd or cp to copy from the .iso file to the right block device. Maybe use /dev/disk/by-id/.... just to be sure. And remember to sync after.13:54
dunpealesseks: is there a URL about how to create a boot disk with these alternative tools?13:55
flipswhat's up with singleuser/recovery mode trying to load samba and stuff? (14.04)13:55
dunpealesseks: also, is there any alternative (like Windows "safe mode") way of booting the liveusb?13:56
dunpealperhaps by pressing a particular key at startup or some such?13:56
Mrokiicfhowlett: VLC plays the mpg fine as well.13:57
MonkeyDustMrokii  Media > Convert13:58
esseksdunpeal, not really. It's just one command: ``sudo ddrescue --force /path/to/ubuntu-<something>.iso /dev/disk/by-id/usb-<some-numbers-and-letters-here>``. I would also call ``sudo sync`` after.  About safe mode: not really, but you can press F2 at the purple screen to bring up the boot options screen and change some kernel parameters from the menu (nomodeset often works). But you first have to get to the purple screen. Otherwise, it's not likely a Ubu13:59
esseksntu problem, it's you PC that cannot boot the USB key.13:59
dunpealesseks: yup, I know the purple screen you speak of. I don't even get there currently.14:00
MrokiiMonkeyDust: Convert to what?14:00
esseksdunpeal: alternatively, you could test the USB key on another machine and see if it works... if it does, then double check that the "bad" PC can actually boot from USB. Very old machines might need a real CD.14:01
MonkeyDustMrokii  the format you want, even try mpg to mpg, maybe it repairs a corrupted file ... copy your file first, to some safe place14:01
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MrokiiMonkeyDust: Okay, I'll try.14:02
dunpealesseks: thanks, I will.14:02
Mrokiiwell, I'll give up for now. No time anymore, need to try another time (maybe). Thanks for trying to help.14:06
_unreal_has any one setup remote desktop before? i'm looking to access my ubuntu tower, from a fedora laptop14:10
_unreal_I've never done that before and dont even know where to start14:10
y3gangmaybe ssh14:10
acidrain_hello. in ubuntu 14, when i run, for example: "gksudo sublime" how do i make it so it detaches from the terminal. instead of terminal giving me feedback on everything i do, and waiting on the app to close?14:12
MonkeyDust_unreal_  yes, start with ss, so you get familiar with ip addresses: ssh [local IP] [remote IP]14:13
MonkeyDust_unreal_  ss = ssh14:13
_unreal_?14:17
_unreal_I'm not seeking remote access via SSH, I'm looking to do remote desktop GUI14:18
MonkeyDust!vnc | _unreal_14:18
ubottu_unreal_: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX14:18
mote_unreal_  Use vino-server14:19
mote_unreal_ and remote desktop it comes with ubuntu14:20
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nickmhclear14:31
rockwoodhelp me please14:35
rockwooderror facing 403 forbidden14:35
rockwood\14:35
cfhowlettrockwood, what is the url?14:36
claudio_hello!14:37
OerHeksrockwood, we need more details14:37
rockwoodlocalhost14:37
rockwoodlocalhost/cyberiaaxis14:37
rockwoodit happing on this url14:37
rockwoodOerHeks: on this url ----->localhost/cyberiaaxis14:38
rockwoodcfhowlett: on this url ----->localhost/cyberiaaxis14:39
rockwoodYou don't have permission to access /cyberiaaxis on this server.14:40
OerHeksrockwood, what is cyberiaaxis ?14:40
rockwoodis a folder name14:40
rockwoodOerHeks:  cyberiaaxis is a folder name14:41
syntroPirockwood, check the folder permissions (imho must be readable for www-data)14:43
rockwoodsyntroPi:  how to check ?14:44
_unreal_ok so what do I need to do to setup a remote desktop server on my ubuntu computer?14:44
_unreal_or what would be my best option?14:44
_unreal_gurr an other stinking lighting storm is comming14:44
rockwoodsyntroPi:  chmod -R 777 /home/public_html14:45
rockwoodi did this14:45
syntroPirockwood, you did create a folder cyberiaaxis in your web-root which must be readable for the user of the webserver (www-data).14:46
syntroPialso you may want to look into settings for directory listing and default html pages (index.html or such)14:47
akishi all.  in my desktop system where i installed xubuntu 14.04 (clean installation) was installed by default Xorg "nouveau driver" but although it works very fast it pixelized for seconds the screen after user's login. So i installed 173 from the alternative drivers list because with this the system run smoothly under 12.04. Unfortunately i realized that now (under 14.04) 173 works very slow and for example FireFox is very slow if i move up and d14:49
akisown a visited page. Also there is a big lag every time i click on the xubuntu logo icon to open whisky menu. So i turned back to "nouveau driver" which now (after i installed-deactivate 173) stopped to pixelize the screen after log-in but it shows a light blue lane while the system boots after the "xubuntu screen" and just before log-in screen. Do i have to unistall 173 (http://www.installion.co.uk/ubuntu/precise/restricted/n/nvidia-173/en/unins14:49
akistall/index.html) or it is better to leave it like this? Is there any way to make 'nouveau driver' to stop show this 'blue lane'? Or is there any way to make 173 run faster maybe with a setup of nVidia X configuration settings?14:49
ForgetaboutitHey guys, my personal Ubuntu 14.04 root server keeps crashing, seemingly because of overload from a Java application;  but I don't know for sure.  I don't have experience with situations like that. How would you recommend diagnosing the issue?14:50
esseksForgetaboutit, have a look to /var/log and see if there is any log entry of interest...14:52
_unreal_how do I setup a remote desktop on my ubuntu system?14:52
Forgetaboutitesseks: what kind of log precisely?14:52
compdoc_unreal_, it should come with vino, which shares your desktop14:53
esseksForgetaboutit, don't know, it depends on the cause -- which we don't know. I would start from dmesg and syslog, but just go through all log files in search of a warning. There's a reason why logging was implemented :)14:54
Forgetaboutitesseks: will do, thanks :)14:54
OerHeks_unreal_, search for 'remote' in dash, enable it, and it should work without reboot14:55
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Frenzohows it crackin, boyz'15:00
acidrain_hello. in ubuntu 14, when i run, for example: "gksudo sublime" how do i make it so it detaches from the terminal. instead of terminal giving me feedback on everything i do, and waiting on the app to close?15:09
OerHeksgksudo sublime &15:10
OerHeksnot sure why you run sublime as root, but oke15:10
acidrain_so i can edit files that i dont have priv to as a normal user :P:15:11
_unreal_ugh15:13
_unreal_all I want to do is make a remote desktop connection. I dont know what the difference is between VNC AND RDP15:13
OerHeksvnc = remote desktop protocol15:13
acidrain__unreal_: why not use teamviewer? :D15:15
acidrain_omg. rythmbox in ubuntu 14 is about to be removed from my favorite music player list15:16
_unreal_heh15:16
_unreal_OerHeks, ya I was just googling15:16
_unreal_what I need to do is setup the computer to be a vnc or RDP server. I dont know which would be the better or easier.15:17
acidrain__unreal_: why not use teamviewer?15:18
therealjayvivoidfire :)15:18
acidrain_http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDwQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voidfire.co.in%2F&ei=zCULVKz5G83ksASaiIDIAg&usg=AFQjCNEJCd2-mA2unO9f6KwTP05wHsc-FA&bvm=bv.74649129,d.cWc15:19
acidrain_^void fire lol15:19
OerHeks_unreal_, ubuntu has vino rdp service buildin, so why search for something else?15:19
esseksacidrain_, if you need to edit a large, complex file, then copy it in your home, edit and sudo cp back. If you just need to comment a line, use nano.  It's literally 5 seconds to learn how to use it...15:19
acidrain_OerHeks: but teamviewer is suppoted on every device except apple15:19
OerHeksteamviewer goes tru their servers, i don't trust that15:20
acidrain_oh ya. so if teamviewer was hacked. then you are hacked.15:20
acidrain_good point15:20
esseksI'm not sure you want to run a large, complex application as root, especially one which can load random plugins from your use directory...15:21
acidrain_esseks: it doesnt bother me. its just an editor that has a nice syntax highlighting and autocomplete15:22
acidrain_thats all that matters to me15:22
acidrain_got tired of using notepad15:22
acidrain_i figured since its about to be 2015 i should upgrade from the 1995 applications15:22
_unreal_ok, I dont know anything about vino15:23
_unreal_OerHeks, is that consol only?"15:24
acidrain_OerHeks: wait. you know you can setup a password on teamviewer right?15:24
SchrodingersScat_unreal_: I think it's a vino/vinegar combo, and it's remote desktop/vnc15:24
_unreal_ok??15:24
acidrain_OerHeks: once you do that, you cant use the 4 digit pin anymore15:24
SchrodingersScatif you want console only, then ssh is fine15:24
_unreal_i'm kind of clueless here15:25
_unreal_i want remote desktop.15:25
esseksacidrain_, then copy the file to your home and edit locally. Although, I frankly doubt autocompletion is of any use for the majority of system files you might want to edit...15:25
OerHeks_unreal_, no. so you didn't check the program?15:25
_unreal_thats all I want to do is use this laptop I'm on and access my media server tower via remote desktop15:25
_unreal_is that a console only program?15:25
OerHeks_unreal_, i am not going to repeat, sorry15:26
acidrain_esseks: i will be editing /var/www/15:26
_unreal_all I see is vino-passwd and vino-preferences15:26
SchrodingersScattry vino-preferences15:26
_unreal_it doesnt do anything just sits there15:26
MonkeyDust_unreal_  have you tried remmina?15:26
_unreal_last time I KNOW NOTHING about vnc/rdp, this is new ground first time. I have never heard of any of these programs15:27
MonkeyDust_unreal_  install and try remmina15:27
_unreal_is that a server?15:27
SchrodingersScat_unreal_: programs like teamviewer and vino are a vnc, so it's a matter of which you want to choose.15:28
_unreal_vinegar is not installed15:28
MonkeyDust_unreal_  no, it's program for remote access/control15:28
_unreal_? how many times to I need to state I need a server15:28
_unreal_server15:28
_unreal_I need to setup a server on the 14.04 lts, with xfce15:29
MonkeyDust_unreal_  like digital ocean, then15:29
MonkeyDust?15:29
_unreal_digital ocean I have no idea what that means15:29
OerHeks vino server/service is installed, you connect to that tru your browser + ip15:29
esseksacidrain_, and you need root for that? Just add yourself to the www-group and/or set the right permission on those files. If you are developing a web app/site, then update the whole workflow to 2015: start a local dev server in the project directory. We did things right in /var/www in 1995 :)15:29
_unreal_browser hum15:30
cfhowlett!server | _unreal_,15:30
ubottu_unreal_,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server15:30
MonkeyDust_unreal_  did you have a plan, before you came here?15:30
erikkI went to #gnome but didn't get much help there, was hoping somebody here could tell me why my volume slider only seems to produce volume when it is at 40% or above? I'm using Ubuntu Gnome15:31
erikkapprox 40%15:32
essekserikk maybe the volume control is a bit too coarse. What soundcard are you using?15:32
MonkeyDust_unreal_  is it a VPS you're looking for, Virtual Private Server?15:33
acidrain_esseks: lol15:33
_unreal_MonkeyDust, I just want to remote desktop into my media server15:33
esseks_unreal_, are you sure your media server has a GUI? What device are we talking about?15:34
MonkeyDust_unreal_  so you have a server, right? use remmina, to gain access15:34
erikkesseks: It says Audio device: AMD, Inc Trinity HDMI Audio Controller and Audio Device: AMD, Inc FCH USB XHCI Controller15:35
erikkPerhaps I need to install something for them?15:35
erikkIt says "kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel" for both of them15:35
kafee651hi all15:36
mandeepkafee651,  hey15:36
MonkeyDust_unreal_  read this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/remmina-remote-desktop-client.html15:37
mandeepHey guys, I have a question. How to switch between linux distibutions(ubuntu or else) without losing customization (configuration)  done to the previous one.15:38
MonkeyDust_unreal_  that link tells to use a ppa, but it's now in the ubuntu sources15:38
cfhowlettmandeep, virtualization.  put your test/customized in virtualbox and go nuts.  save your REAL distro for real work.15:39
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mandeepcfhowlett, but what if I want to completely port from one distro to another.15:40
cfhowlettmandeep, ... outside of my narrow wealth of knowledge. sorry.15:40
mandeepcfhowlett, it's okay.15:41
mandeepThank you.15:41
brunosthi! I'm having trouble compiling a piece of software due to gcc not being able to find module.h which is a kernel module IIRC, anyways does anybody know if there are any issues between ubuntu 14.04 and gcc4.8 or if I'm just doing something stupid15:41
mandeepPlease anyone help me.15:41
acidrain_someone had told me there was a way to make netflix work without using monolight/pipelight15:43
acidrain_said something about html515:43
OerHeksacidrain_, correct, chrome + html515:44
OerHekschrome only15:44
acidrain_cool. ill download chrome now15:45
acidrain_thx15:45
acidrain_guess firefox is out now15:45
OerHeksmandeep, some share the /home folder between different linux distro's, but that can give unwanted results, when different DE's are used15:45
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mandeepactually I want to port between two systems with different distros.15:48
kiteauhello15:48
OerHeksmandeep, good luck then :-)15:48
mandeepOerHeks, but I don't want to lose customization. :(15:49
kiteaui have something mounted in /hosts that takes 32 gigs of space, is thoses files required? is it system files?15:49
mandeepOerHeks, can you suggest some way to backup all configurations.15:49
kiteau-> /host/ubuntu15:50
acidrain_omg. i tried to install chrome via .deb file and now ubuntu says internal system error occured15:50
acidrain_keeps poping up. and chrome did not even instal15:50
axnsplit15:51
acidrain_Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)15:51
_unreal_solved my VNC needs my self following this http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.0415:52
OerHeksmandeep, you can copy configuration files to a dedicated partition, and read that from within an other distro. or share the /home folder. or use a cloud-backup solution. keep in mind that the Desktop Environment should be identical.15:53
mandeepOerHeks, how to copy all configuration files at once.15:54
kiteaucan i remove /host/ubuntu ?15:54
OerHeksmangirdas, something like this: cp -R ~/* <destination>15:58
__marcoHello. Ubuntu 14.04 is performing really slow on virtualbox. How can I disable 3D?15:58
acidrain_google chrome does not play netflix. says i need silverlight still15:58
compdoctheres an app for netflix on android15:59
compdocI thought there was something for linux16:00
darkxploithello i need the documentation for dnssec on ubuntu server 14.04 LTS . can someone help me please with some links ?16:00
usr13acidrain_: I think you need pipelight ?16:00
OerHeksacidrain_, maybe this page is any help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins16:00
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pi_somethink like find / *.conf | grep |cp * /home/yourhome/*16:00
acidrain_no. im looking at something that says goto netflix account -> playback -> html516:00
pi_somethink like find / *.conf | grep |cp * /home/yourhome/*16:00
OerHekssomething aboutlibnss316:00
la_deadif your on ubuntu you can download netflix on the ubuntu store16:00
pi_fds16:01
SchrodingersScatacidrain_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins16:01
jhutchinsla_dead: Why do you need a special app?  Can't you just watch in a browser?16:01
SchrodingersScatI can't duplicate finding netflix in the software center16:02
darkxploithello i need the documentation of bind package for ubuntu?..16:02
la_deadnope it uses some software that is made by windows. so the netflix team made a scrip that sets up wine so you can run netflix on linux16:03
la_deadfor windows not by windows16:04
usr13!netflix16:04
ubottuIf you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop16:04
kiteaui have something mounted in /hosts that takes 32 gigs of space, is thoses files required? is it system files?16:04
kiteau /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk16:04
pi_cp *.conf | grep | find / *.conf ...... somthnk like that16:04
SchrodingersScatkiteau: I don't have this folder, is it something you created?16:04
kiteaui am not sure, i think it appeared when i upgraded from12.04 to 1416:05
kiteauand when i try to unmount it: umount: /: device is busy.16:05
usr13kiteau: df /host/16:06
usr13kiteau: (What device is it?)16:06
Dr_DanQuestion:   configurafion:  asus netbook/ubuntu 14.04/chrome 36/pepperflash 14.0.0.177.   Issue:  chrome will not play cnn videos well (several seconds of jitter).  But ff with macromedia flash plays very well.16:07
kiteau/dev/sda2       40857596 31593612   9263984  78% /host16:07
usr13kiteau: df  #Where is everything else?16:07
usr13kiteau: Oh, is this a VM?16:08
kiteau/dev/loop0      29848536  25144576   3164684  89% /16:08
kiteauno it is not16:08
kiteaudual boot tho16:08
OerHeksDr_Dan, update, as chrome is now v37.0.2062.9416:08
usr13kiteau: df |pastebinit16:09
usr13kiteau: Not sure what /host/ would be for....16:09
Dr_DanWas there a pf fix?16:09
usr13kiteau: Show us...16:09
RenfHey16:09
kiteauhttp://pastebin.com/AkiLzhky16:09
eeeehey Renf16:10
basketballHow can i install libre 4.3 from ppa16:11
kiteausudo lsof | grep /host/ returns nothing16:11
_unreal_now that I have solved my VNC needs my self following this http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.04 using vnc-server is there anyone that could help me include this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualGL16:11
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OerHeksbasketball, find the ppa, add it, and upgrade16:11
cfhowlett!ppa | basketball16:12
ubottubasketball: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:12
RenfCan anyone with ssh experience help me with something?16:12
acidrain_lmao16:13
acidrain_!16:13
acidrain_it works!16:13
BluesKajRenf, describe your issue16:13
* acidrain_ uninstalls firefox and chrome stable16:13
usr13kiteau: Is this a new install?16:13
RenfBluesKaj: Im trying to access an ubuntu server remotely, but it always denies permission..16:13
usr13kiteau: 14.04 ?16:14
kiteauwell, since the ppa were all outdated, i had to upgrade with the cd's16:14
RenfBluesKaj: Ive tried generating keys and stuff, also set a password for root, but it still doesnt let me in16:14
kiteauso, it might be my old installation...16:14
SNAFUdowserHey guys I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 and I keep getting a black screen after the logo appears.  I've tried using a USB and DVD and setting nomodeset, nolapic, and acpi = off but nothing has worked.  Is the only option to disconnect my graphics card?16:15
usr13kiteau: I don't understand because / is on  /dev/loop0 (So where is /home/  df home )16:15
cfhowlettSNAFUdowser, if you do so easily - then install.  configure graphics in post-install16:15
kiteau/dev/loop0      29848536 25145040   3164220  89% /16:16
usr13kiteau: df /home/   #What does that say?16:16
usr13kiteau: That is /home/?16:16
kiteauyes16:16
SNAFUdowsercfhowlett: What do you mean by "if you do so easily"?  Sorry didn't quite understand.16:17
kiteausudo umount -l /host16:17
kiteauthat actually worked16:17
Dr_Dan@OerHeks:   i have chrome 37.0.2062.94  and  pepper 14.0.0.177  now.  Still same.16:18
usr13kiteau: Is it wubi?16:18
kiteauno, i don't have wubi16:18
harriseeee, you here16:19
RenfWow, nvm, I solved it16:19
Dr_DanOerHeks: why is macromedia flash so much better in performance than pepper16:19
veryhappyhey guys, i have a big problem with my ubuntu now, yesterday i installed a few packages and now my X server completely failed. i cant access any graphical system anymore. is there any list which packages i have installed recently?16:20
usr13kiteau: Well, I do not understand your root directory being on a loop device, (/dev/loop# is normally for mounting ISO images).  Maybe someone else knows....  http://pastebin.com/AkiLzhky  ANYONE...?16:21
OerHeksDr_Dan, it shouldn't be better.16:21
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Blomquisthmm16:21
veryhappyOerHeks: do you know an answer please?16:21
usr13veryhappy: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf #What does that say?16:22
usr13kiteau: http://pastebin.com/AkiLzhky  Does not look like a filesystem for a normal install.16:23
SNAFUdowserSo guys is there anything I can do to start the install process without getting a black screen that doesn't require removing my graphics card?16:23
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usr13!nomodeset | SNAFUdowser16:23
OerHeksveryhappy,  Last 5 Installs >>  cat /var/log/dpkg.log* | grep "\ install\ " | sort -r | head -n 516:23
ubottuSNAFUdowser: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:23
SNAFUdowserYeah I tried nomodeset and it's still a black screen.16:24
usr13SNAFUdowser: What video chip is it?16:24
SNAFUdowserGTX 76016:24
usr13kiteau: lsb_release -a | pastebinit16:25
veryhappylsv:16:25
veryhappylsv:16:25
usr13kiteau: I don't see how unmouinting /host/ will do anything for you.16:26
OerHeksSNAFUdowser, gtx 730/760 will be supported in Nvidia 319.32 package, not available in our repositorys AFAIK16:26
usr13SNAFUdowser: So it is Nvidia?16:27
SNAFUdowserYeah Nvidia.  What do I do then if it's not supported your repositories.16:27
Dr_DanOerHeks, Its on a low-end asus netbook  but that shouldnt matter if ff with flash 11 is playing the video right.  Did pepperflash get bloated or what16:27
kiteauindeed...16:28
veryhappyOerHeks: cool thanks16:29
usr13kiteau: lsb_release -a | pastebinit16:29
kiteauill have to backup and reinstall everything i think16:29
kiteauNo LSB modules are available.16:29
kiteauDescription:Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS16:29
baykergiv zdorov priegayte v gocti16:29
veryhappyOerHeks: can i specify all the packages that i found to remove with apt-get?16:30
OerHeksveryhappy, if you installed them yourself, yes, if they are updates, no16:30
usr13kiteau: Well, if you got what you have now from the last install, how do we know you won't get something very similar from another install?  What size is your HD?16:30
usr13kiteau: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit16:31
usr13!paste | kiteau16:32
ubottukiteau: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:32
kiteauhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8271542/16:32
SNAFUdowserSo are there any other options that I can pursue that isn't nomodeset or disconnecting the entire GPU just for the install?16:32
veryhappyOerHeks: and how can i specify the packages to remove with apt-get?16:33
usr13kiteau: Looks to me like it is wubi16:34
unkn0wn_ngHello Room Can someone recommend a great alternative to Exchange server on Ubuntu16:34
unkn0wn_ngI am thinking of zentyal or zimbra collaboration suite16:34
chickencoder( . ) ( . )16:35
usr13kiteau: My advise is to back up your personal files, (/home/) and personal files on your MS Windows filesystem [as needed], and do a real install, (not wubi).16:35
kiteauthats what i will do16:35
kiteauweird thing tho, is that i have my files from my old install...16:36
kiteauanyways16:36
SNAFUdowserveryhappy: maybe this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-completely-uninstall-a-package-237772/16:36
usr13kiteau: You seem to have plenty of HD space, you have a 500G and a 1TB drive in this computer, so re-arrange things and do a real install, (not wubi).16:36
usr13kiteau: You know what wubi is, right?16:36
kiteauok! thanks16:36
kiteauno i don't16:36
usr13!wubi | kiteau16:37
ubottukiteau: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug16:37
kiteauahh i see16:37
usr13kiteau: I do *not* recommend wubi.16:37
veryhappySNAFUdowser: what "maybe this"?16:37
SNAFUdowserveryhappy: I was saying that that link may answer your question on removing packages with apt-get.16:37
usr13kiteau: wubi is ok for someone to just see what a ubuntu system might look like, but not for actual use. (But that is just my opinion, but I share that opinion with lots of others for sure).16:38
veryhappySNAFUdowser: give me some time i need to copy off the link i use irrsi (the text chat program) right now16:39
veryhappyls16:40
veryhappyclear16:40
usr13kiteau: So the process would be to backup your files, uninstall wubi, re-arrange your MS-Windows filesystem, make room for a Ubuntu install, shrink partition(s) to leave some free [unpartitioned] space, and then do a real Ubuntu install.  (And this is why I don't recommend wubi installs.) Now I understand that there is some way to convert wubi to a real install, but I don't know about it.  Maybe someone else does....16:41
veryhappySNAFUdowser: i dont mean just removing the packages, but removing the packages that i have logged in /var/log/dpkg16:41
usr13kiteau: If you add another HD, that might be easiest.16:41
SNAFUdowserveryhappy: Yeah that's why I said it may help lol I wasn't up to date on the context of your question.  Sorryy! lol16:42
usr13kiteau: Is your MS Windows install XP?16:43
BluesKajusr13, I think one dd's the wubi file to a linux partition and somehow make it bootable ...my memeory is vague16:43
cantwaitiphone2join ##fuck-metaleer :)16:43
cantwaitiphone2join ##fuck-metaleer :)))16:43
cantwaitiphone2join ##fuck-metaleer :)))))))16:43
cantwaitiphone2join ##fuck-metaleer :))))))))))16:43
cantwaitiphone2join ##fuck-metaleer :))))))))))))))))))))))))16:43
usr13BluesKaj: Yea, I don't know either.  I've seen discussion about it but...16:43
usr13BluesKaj: There was supposed to be some automated thing for it...16:44
jhutchinscygwin is a better solution than wubi16:44
usr13cygwin ?16:44
jhutchinsYep.16:45
usr13Sorry, I don't know anything about cygwin16:45
BluesKajeven cygwin is clunky16:45
usr13 ubottu doesn't either16:45
jhutchinsWindows is clunky, so anything you run on it...16:46
eeeeusr13: it's for windows, to compile linux programs on it16:46
usr13jhutchins: Good point.16:46
jhutchinscygwin is a suite of linux programs that run under windows.16:46
BluesKajI'd sooner dualboot which I do now...vms don't cut it for me either16:46
usr13VM is the only solution that makes any sense to me, (but when the host is MS Windows, it seems just upside down...)16:47
SNAFUdowserOK so I'm guessing no one has very good advice for solving a blackscreen on installing Ubuntu besides nomodeset/disconnecting GPU?  I guess I'll wait a few more minutes and then start guessing.16:47
BluesKajusr13, yup16:47
eeeeSNAFUdowser: can you boot into text mode?16:47
usr13BluesKaj: Dual boot is ok, but a waste of space, (because what normally happens is that the Ubuntu user rarely boots back to MS Windows.16:48
SNAFUdowsereeee, I'd love to.  I didn't know that was a thing.  I'll try that out.16:48
eeeeSNAFUdowser: do you know how?16:48
usr13BluesKaj: ... he soon finds little need for the other OS).16:49
SNAFUdowsereeee, I was going to look it up but I'm happy to have you tell me if you want! :) lol16:49
BluesKajSNAFUdowser, ctl+alt+F1 to F6 , login and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade16:49
usr13BluesKaj: ... at least, that has been my experience.16:49
SNAFUdowserBluesKaj: What's good about running apt-get update && upgrade on a bootable USB?  Or is that just needed for logging into text mode or something?16:50
BluesKajusr13, yeah, I login to windows once every few days , but I keep it around for wifey sake since I need to keep up so that her windows install is familiar to me :)16:51
eeeeSNAFUdowser: try accessing tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1, first, if that doesn't work, hold shift while your computer boots so the grub menu appears, then press e to edit the ubuntu entry, in the line that says Linux /boot/vmlinuz... quiet splash, add text to the end of it then press ctrl+x to execute16:51
_unreal_any one played with virtualGL on VNC?16:51
BluesKajSNAFUdowser, sorry didn't see your original question ...thought you were talking about an install not live media16:52
SNAFUdowsereeee: Cool I'll try it out thanks!16:52
SNAFUdowserBluesKaj: Ah cool np16:52
eeeeSNAFUdowser: you should do this on your installation SNAFUdowser not a live usb16:52
Emmanuel_ChanelHello!16:53
hermy0123Wherein the world  am I now?16:53
samthewildoneThis is starting to piss me off... really16:53
SNAFUdowsereeee: Oh, so then how can I get it installed if I'm getting a black screen on installation?  Is there a text mode on the installer which would let me install and then follow those steps?16:53
OC39648I need help16:53
samthewildoneI just reinstalled ubuntu this morning and I still get random crashes.16:53
eeeehermy0123: you know the scene in men in black 2, where he opens the locker and you see tiny men? we're like those men in your ubuntu16:53
samthewildoneNow I get nautilus crashing for doing nothing.16:53
* OC39648 is attempting to boot a linux distro off a USB drive. 16:53
usr13BluesKaj: My wife is a Ubuntu user.16:54
samthewildoneI did a fresh install with crypto516:54
OC39648My Problem: USB is not listed in boot menu.16:54
jcoolwindows boots to purple screen after installing ubuntu 14.04. any reason?16:54
hermy0123THX eeee! Question on Ubuntu 14.0416:54
OC39648Other things: It shows up in the BIOS. I can't seem to add it, though.16:54
jhutchinsOC39648: How did you set up the USB?16:54
eeeeSNAFUdowser: ah, sorry, i thought you installed, then got a black screen on boot, my bad :)16:55
OC39648UNetBootin16:55
eeeeSNAFUdowser: i think the minimal cd is text based16:55
usr13BluesKaj: New converts are like people that don't know how to swim, but if you through them into the middle of the lake, they will usually just start to swim.16:55
samthewildoneQuestion, does these bug reports go to Ubuntu ? Anytime I experience a application failure I get a detailed dialogue box but, nothing to send info to developers.16:55
jcooleverything works except that purple screen on boot of windows.16:56
jhutchinsOC39648: What installs do you have now?16:56
SNAFUdowsereeee, Ah no problem >.< and OK I'll check out the minimal cd then.  Let me know if you think of any other options.  But thanks anyway!16:56
OC39648On flashdrive or computer?16:56
eeeeSNAFUdowser: ok, good luck & np16:56
BluesKajusr13, wife's too old to change here and she plays LOTRO so linux is kind of out of the question ...besides it's her pc , she can do what she wants with ...I'm just here to fix stuff :)16:56
samthewildoneExample : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rZKP9LDqUFODlZOE1UU3A5bEE/edit?usp=sharing16:56
jhutchinsOC39648: I mean what did you run unetbootin from?  What this probably means is that it didn't work.16:56
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hermy0123Ubu14.0almos md PC redering it extremely slow to the point that I had o e=nstall 10.01 and build it up to where I am now! Anyone knows about Zorin, another distro?16:57
OC39648I ran UNetBootin off a computer to install a Kali Image onto the flashdrive16:57
OC39648The flashdrive was formatted in FAT32 beforehand.16:57
_unreal_BluesKaj, you slave ;)16:58
usr13BluesKaj: I'm in the same boat, "just here to fix stuff", only I've made the job easier ;)16:58
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BluesKaj_unreal_, I'm well paid :)16:59
_unreal_lol my daughter 5yo just said are you kidding me? and I said no I dont have to your already a kid... heheheheh she thought about that for a few17:00
hermy0123Is this chatrom also unde surveillance?17:00
jhutchinsOC39648: When you put an image on a drive it overwrites the format, so that doesn't matter.  Did you run unetbootin on Windows or Linux?  Do you have a linux systme available?  Which iso did you use?  Did you verify it's checksum?17:00
_unreal_define surveillance17:00
usr13jhutchins: OC39648 Ubuntu ISOs are hybrid17:01
OC39648Right, Window, No, x64, yes.17:01
hermy0123Scrutiny from the powers that be, srveilance ...excuse the orthograph...17:01
jhutchinshermy0123: This channel is mostly fellow users who are interested in solving problems or waiting for their own question to be answered by someone.17:01
jhutchinsusr13: Yes, I know that.17:01
usr13jhutchins: so there's no need for unetbootin17:02
usr13... just seems to be  cleaner, neater to dd17:02
usr13It is slower but...17:03
jhutchinsusr13: Only if you have a working linux install.17:03
hermy0123 j...ins17:03
jhutchinsusr13: It's not slower if done correctly, unetbootin just offers a handy GUI.17:03
_unreal_how do I go about setting up power management for my harddrives to spin down17:04
usr13jhutchins: rawwrite?17:04
usr13jhutchins: Been a long time, but doesn't rawwrite do the same thing?17:05
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jhutchinsusr13: It is a windows program that writes images.  The last version I used only did floppies.17:05
usr13jhutchins: Oh, ok.  Well, it's been a long time. Sorry...17:06
adamSsHi all. trying to cp a folders contents, but hidden files starting with a . are not being copied. Any suggestions? Thanks all!17:06
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usr13adamSs: man cp17:06
brainproxythis doesn't seem to do what I was expecting: `apt-get remove -y --auto-remove autoconf automake build-essential`17:07
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pi_sudo sp17:07
pi_sudo cp17:07
brainproxythat is, after running that command, gcc is still installed17:07
jhutchinspi_: Not relevant.17:08
usr13brainproxy: Maybe you are trying to do too many things at once17:08
usr13brainproxy: but gcc should be still installed17:08
usr13*should* be17:09
hermy0123I got a few linux distro from an individual on ebay and most of them have trouble with "synching" what's that?17:09
adamSsman synching17:09
brainproxyusr13: doesn't build-essential install it? and so wouldn't removing build-essential remove gcc?17:09
bekksbrainproxy: of course gcc will still be installed. Remove it directly, since too much dependencies will still pull it in.17:10
usr13brainproxy: gcc is installed by default.17:10
bekksbrainproxy: This applies to "if you really want to do that". I dont see a single reason for removing gcc.17:10
usr13afaik17:10
samthewildoneto copy a text from /var/log/syslog I did this " cat /var/log/syslog -> /home/user/Desktop/text.txt" yet terminal hangs.17:10
SNAFUdowsereeee, Hey so I'm doing the minimal install, but I want to make sure it gives me options for customizing my partitions and stuff.  Where in this install will I make custom partitions?  I don't wanna hit install and then it blindly overwrites one of my HDDs.17:10
samthewildoneIs there something I'm missing ?17:10
brainproxybekks: well on the system I'm starting from, it's not installed17:10
brainproxyso I install build-essential to pull it in17:10
bekksbrainproxy: So whats the "system you use" then?17:11
jhutchinssamthewildone: Patience?  How long did you give it?  How big is the log?17:11
brainproxybekks: the ubuntu docker image17:12
brainproxywhich is a bare bones ubuntu 14.0417:12
samthewildoneI canceled the first one, did another one and letting it run its course.17:12
usr13samthewildone: Why are you doint that?17:12
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eeeesamthewildone: it's something you added, it's the -> , it should be >17:12
samthewildoneusr13, to post a help on ubuntu forum.17:12
bekksbrainproxy: Ah I see. And why do you want to remove gcc then, after installing it?17:12
red45923i moved a working ubuntu hard disk to a different laptop and it all works except there is no wifi - i am guessing it did an auto install for the original networking hardware and now cannot find it - any tips to fix this17:12
eeee( or >> to append )17:12
samthewildoneok17:12
usr13samthewildone: So why not just pastebinit17:12
usr13?17:12
brainproxybekks: because I don't need it in my derived image, after I've used it to compile some stuff17:12
bekksbrainproxy: So uninstall it.17:13
pussy-fhi all17:13
usr13samthewildone: What you are trying to do would be a never ending process.17:13
pussy-f:)17:13
samthewildoneusr13, I am17:13
eeeeSNAFUdowser: never done it before, but i think it should ask where to install, and you'd select Something else, to partition as you see fit17:13
samthewildoneusr13, I'm just getting a documented file first.17:13
jhutchinseeee: Well spotted17:13
brainproxybekks: yes, I agree; my point was that it seemed like if I installed indirectly (by way of build-essential), then uninstalling build-essential seems like it should take care of it17:13
brainproxybut it doesn't17:13
samthewildonelooks like I'm going to have to upload the file to my google drive and link the doc from there.17:14
SNAFUdowsereeee, Yeah I think I found a youtube video of someone going through it.  It should prompt your right, but just worried if it didn't it would be so bad lol.  I'll just try it out.17:14
brainproxyso I was wondering if I'm missing something w.r.t. uninstalling an umbrella pkg like build-essential17:14
samthewildoneThe file is too large to post on pastebin17:14
harrishow do i fix the sudo sed 's/Icon=.*/Icon=\home/\harris\/icons\/libreoffice-writer.svg/g' -i /usr/share/applications/libreoffice-writer.desktop17:14
usr13samthewildone: So why not just copy the file?17:14
harrisunknown value s17:14
jhutchinsbrainproxy: build-essential may not be what installed it.17:14
pussy-fhttp://www.namerimi.org17:14
bekksbrainproxy: So you could check whats still pulling it in.17:14
usr13samthewildone: And then do what you want with it?17:14
brainproxyjhutchins: it most certainly is17:14
samthewildoneusr13, I attempted that but, pastebin would not let me paste the stuff17:14
samthewildoneusr13, smell it and rub it17:14
jhutchinsbrainproxy: It's a pretty common dependency.  build-essential is a metapackage not a real package, so it doesn't behave quite the same way.17:15
red45923anyone have a suggestion to fix my ubuntu wifi17:15
usr13samthewildone: WHat?17:15
brainproxyjhutchins: okay, so is there a way for apt-get to spit out the list of the pkgs includes in a metapackage17:15
brainproxy*included17:15
samthewildoneI'm going to post it in the ubuntu help forum because this is the 2nd installation of ubuntu and I still have random applications crashes... its very annoying.17:15
usr13red45923: What's wrong with it?17:15
red45923usr13, - like i said i moved a working ubuntu hard disk to a different laptop and it all works except there is no wifi - i am guessing it did an auto install for the original networking hardware and now cannot find it - any tips to fix this17:16
bekksbrainproxy: a metapackage does not contain a single package. it pulls in dependencies.17:16
samthewildoneI just reinstalled ubuntu; latest, this morning and I still get applications crashes from time to time.17:16
brainproxybekks: gotcha17:16
jhutchinsusr13: Good point usr13 - cp would make more sense.17:16
usr13samthewildone: You should find the specific problem...17:16
red45923so basically now thre is no wifi available - lan works, usb dongle works, no wifi though17:16
brainproxybekks: is there a way to get a list of the deps it pulls in?17:16
samthewildoneusr13, that's just the problem.17:16
usr13red45923: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade17:17
samthewildoneusr13, I get detailed dialogues but, it does not look like I can copy the dialog and post it anywhere.17:17
samthewildoneFor starters that all seem to have the same error about SIG*.17:17
bekksbrainproxy: just take a look at the reverse dependencies of gcc: apt-cache rdepends gcc17:17
usr13samthewildone: cp /var/log/syslog /home/user/Desktop/text.txt17:17
brainproxybekks: thanks17:18
samthewildoneusr13, Of course the crashes don't affect my ability to use the computer but, they are annoying when your doing some web browsing and get a error box.17:18
usr13samthewildone: Oh, you are annoyed by the crash reports?17:18
SchrodingersScatah, those, I get those occasionally17:18
samthewildoneusr13, yes very annoyed.17:19
red45923what does sudo apt-get upgrade do , i am running 12.04 and all is fine aside from wifi17:19
SchrodingersScatred45923: should upgrade packages installed via apt/synaptic/software center/etc.17:19
samthewildoneusr13, because first of all I cannot seem to fix them. They're random and I hate random crashes.17:19
eeeesamthewildone: sudo nano /etc/default/apport17:19
eeeesamthewildone: set enabled to 017:19
SchrodingersScatred45923: normally a sudo apt-get update # would precede it to update your software lists17:19
hermy0123Redxxx stay away from version 14.04!17:19
jhutchinsred45923: Probably does nothing.  What you actually need to do is to figure out what wifi chipset you have and what it needs to run on ubuntu.  It might need firmware, which the installer wouldn't have known about because the wifi wasn't there.17:20
samthewildoneyuk17:20
jhutchinsred45923: dmesg will show an error trying to find the firmware in that case.17:20
samthewildoneeeee, vim FTW17:20
bekkshermy0123: Why?17:20
eeeesamthewildone: lol, ok17:20
jhutchinsred45923: Or you can just find the chipset ID and look up what it needs.17:20
bekkshermy0123: Its the latest supported LTS.17:20
samthewildoneeeee, I'm assuming that this hides those errors...17:20
eeeewhat does vim stand for again ? :P17:20
usr13eeee: I think it is vi17:20
samthewildoneVirtual Image Man17:20
usr13Oh I dono17:21
red45923jhutchins, yes that was my hunch too, not keen on going away from 12.04 unless i have to17:21
eeeesamthewildone: yes17:21
hermy0123It is fraught with bugs and I actually got a warning from the VA?!?17:21
jhutchinshermy0123: VA?17:21
MonkeyDustvim means "vi more"17:21
_unreal_what is the best way to make a backup of my computer?17:21
usr13or improved?17:22
samthewildoneeeee, So I'm assuming that I won't get any dialogs about the crashes...17:22
jhutchins!backup17:22
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:22
usr13IMproved17:22
MonkeyDust!backup | _unreal_17:22
ubottu_unreal_: please see above17:22
hermy0123VA for Veterams' Affair... YES!17:22
samthewildoneusr13, thanks17:22
samthewildoneeeee, thanks17:22
pussyруг ето този http://www.namerimi.org17:22
red45923ok, will look for the network details for this laptop and see where that takes me, tx, will prob need some more help soon :)17:22
MonkeyDustpussy  did you have a support question?17:22
eeeeusr13: actually VI iMproved, but whatever17:22
jhutchinsred45923: lspci should show you what you're working with.  lspci -nn gives you the pciid of the device which can be useful.17:23
usr13eeee: Yea, I think there is only a difference because some liked the old feature set17:24
red45923think i got a poss answer - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206716117:24
usr13eeee: So if you install vi and then vim, vi just becomes a link to vim17:25
usr13eeee: At least that is the way it works on most linux systems nowdays17:25
usr13eeee: Used to be that they were two separate apps, not so any more...17:26
hermy0123OK community, now thaT i KNOW THAT i CAN GET EXPERTS RECOMMENDATIONS AND HELP IN HERE, i WILL COME BACK OFTEN AS i A17:26
eeeeusr13: i see17:26
hermy0123Sorry for the CAPS... not yelling...17:26
hermy0123Got to go; siesta time...17:27
usr13hermy0123: Yea, I've often wondered why you can't seem to find a keybord without CapsLock17:27
eeeeusr13: i stand corrected though, it seems to be officially called Vi IMproved though17:29
zaggynlso uh, I broke something, my caps lock key is on but I'm not typing in caps, not pressing shift either.17:32
Lubitciaooooooo17:33
zaggynlLIST17:33
Lubitquale rom avete?17:33
Kirejiwhat writes the file /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available ?17:34
Kirejihttp://askubuntu.com/questions/49958/how-to-find-the-number-of-packages-needing-update-from-the-command-line says it is /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available but that doesn't exist on 12.04.517:35
FrenzoWhat is this peculiar series of events? I am very intrigued by the idea of freenode's freedom policy but this is not some Ronald Reagan fanbase where all your sins will be washed off like an american college wonder.17:36
MonkeyDustFrenzo  wrong channel17:36
trismKireji: /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available is a script that writes to that file with the output of apt-check17:38
trismKireji: that is run on login by /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available17:38
trismKireji: I'm not sure why it wouldn't exist on 12.04, unless you don't have update-notifier-common installed, I suppose it might have had a slightly different name back then I don't really remember17:39
Kirejitrism: checking - thank you17:41
Kirejitrism: wierd, somehow it was removed17:43
SNAFUdowserHey how do you choose where to install the Grub Bootloader during a minimal installation?17:54
ikoniayou don't17:54
ikoniaby minimal do you mean the minimal iso ?17:54
SNAFUdowserikonia: Yeah minimal iso17:55
ikoniaSNAFUdowser: that expects you to know what you are doing and configure your system appropriately17:55
jhutchinsSNAFUdowser: MBR of the device.17:55
SNAFUdowserjhutchins: Perfect gotcha17:55
SNAFUdowserDamnit!  Didn't work :'(17:56
ikoniaSNAFUdowser: why are you doing a minimal install ?17:56
ikoniaSNAFUdowser: what is wrong with the standard install ?17:56
SNAFUdowserikonia: I'm getting a black screen on my normal install so this way I can install it without using the GPU.17:57
ikoniaSNAFUdowser: that is not the solution17:57
SNAFUdowsernomodeset didn't work17:57
ikoniaSNAFUdowser: there are more options than "nomodeset"17:57
SNAFUdowserikonia: Like what?17:57
ikoniathe minimal install expects a reasonable level of knowledge to know what packages do what and how to configure them17:58
ikoniaSNAFUdowser: you can try to force vesa, you can blacklist the noveau drivers,17:58
ikoniaSNAFUdowser: there are other options,17:58
y3ganghmm17:59
SNAFUdowserikonia: Cool.  I was asking about this earlier on here and minimal install was the only solution I got so that's why I was doing it.  I've got a GTX 760 so you think I should use force vesa, or blacklist noveau?18:00
ikoniano idea without doing the research and understanding your problem, but they are certainly options18:00
SNAFUdowserikonia: OK.... well.... I'm not sure how to proceed seeing as I've done research and it looks to me like nomodeset and disconnecting the GPU are the main fixes. Now I can't say those are the only options but I don't know any others from doing a bunch of Google searches.  So... if you want I can tell you what my issue is and you can give me pointers or... I'll continue guessing and possibly try to get the minimal install working.18:06
SNAFUdowserBtw I've installed arch linux before so doing the minimal install isn't so impossible for me to understand.  Or maybe it is but idk what else I should do honestly.  I'll keep trying!18:08
eeeeSNAFUdowser: try to use nomodeset nolapic18:11
SNAFUdowsereeee: Yeah I've tried it. >.<18:12
eeeewith nolapic as well?18:12
SNAFUdowserYeah18:12
SNAFUdowserBut it might be that I need to use the "try ubuntu without intalling it" option, which I realize I didn't use before18:12
c_smith_Hey, is there any current guide to remove Unity in 14.04?18:13
SNAFUdowserWould that cause a problem?  I didn't think it would before but I realize that is one difference between what I was doing and what they suggest to solve the problem in this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it18:13
unicornjedihello, which channel could I go to for help in assembly language?18:13
eeee!notunity | c_smith_18:13
ubottuc_smith_: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.18:13
eeeec_smith_: nevermind18:14
eeeeunicornjedi: #asm ?18:14
c_smith_eeee, hmmmm..... didn't know that function of ubottu18:14
unicornjedieeee, thanks bra18:14
Beldarc_smith_, Unity itself is quite tiny, what desktop do you want or are using?18:14
ashvaHi, I've installed ubuntu 14.04 on my new lenovo x1 carbon 2014. everything is working fine but CPUs. it only recognizes 4 CPUs !!! actually I have core i7 cpu and don't know what is the reason. can somebody help me on this?18:15
c_smith_eeee, I've got MATE 1.9 built and installed, (did that myself), I'm just doing some cleanup18:15
c_smith_Beldar, ^18:15
eeeeashva: why do you think it recognizes only 4?18:16
Beldarc_smith_, Not sure but isn't mate a gnome 2 or 3 fork?18:16
Hrishiashva : How many does your CPU has?18:16
eeeei7 should have 8 i think18:16
ashvaeeee: lscpu and htop18:16
eeeemine does dunno if all do18:16
c_smith_Beldar, yes, Gnome 2 fork, 1.9 adds support for GTK+ 3.18:16
c_smith_Beldar, think the instructions at https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative would be decent?18:17
ashvaeeee: in lscpu output => CPU(s):                418:17
eeeeashva: i see, i get 8 there18:17
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ashvaeeee: yes but I get 4 there!18:18
Beldarc_smith_, unity sits on top of gnome 3 so in the end it's your plan, my self I would just leave it.18:19
eeeeashva: grep motherboard | /var/log/syslog18:19
Hrishiashva , eeee : Checked out on the Internet. it says i7 9xx versions have 4 CPUs.18:20
SNAFUdowserOK so it looks like minimal install is the best option right now.  So the partition configuration I want is, one sdb I want swap, and /.  And then on sdc3 I want /home.  I set this up in the partition manager, but then it asked me for where to put grub, should I write dev/sdb?  That should be the MBR  of that hdd.  That should work right?18:21
c_smith_Beldar, ah, alright18:21
ashvaHrishi: thanks for reply. actually I had windows installed before installing ubunut and over there I have 8 cores!!18:22
eeeeashva: anything? try cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep i718:22
eeeeashva: also the grep command18:22
ashvaeeee: only  4* model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4550U CPU @ 1.50GHz18:23
eeeeok, what about the grep motherboard /var/log/syslog ?18:24
ashvaeeee: nothing18:25
eeeeashva: ok try grep -A20 i7 /var/log/syslog18:27
eeeesee what's there18:27
usr13SNAFUdowser: You want grub written to the drive you boot to, (sda right?), unless you want to choose from bios.18:27
eeeeif you want to paste use pastebinit, otherwise let us know if you find something interesting18:28
pi_cat syslog | grep motherboard .-)18:28
usr13SNAFUdowser: So if you choose sda, you automatically get the option of which OS to boot each time your PC starts up.18:28
SNAFUdowserusr13: Well I think I'll boot from sdb normally because I have another bootloader installed on sda for OSx/windows.  I'm just going to make the boot order sdb first.  But yeah that's basically it.18:29
usr13pi_: grep motherboard syslog  ?18:30
pi_anyway18:30
dididodohi ... i just upgraded my eeepc and since then the mobile broadband stick can not connect to the internet. the stick is there in lsusb and it is also not a modeswitch issue. there is just no ppp0 interface showing up. any idea?18:32
ashvaeeee: you know what, everything here is filtered. can you introduce me a paste in site?18:33
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eeeeashva: sudo apt-get install pastebinit18:33
eeeethen grep -A20 i7 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit18:34
ashvaeeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8272387/18:36
ashvaeeee: thanks alot18:36
eeeenp18:36
ashvaeeee: !?18:37
eeeenp, no problem18:38
ashvaeeee: so what do you think? do I only have 4 cores of cpus?18:39
phunyguydoes anyone have a working ubuntu 14.04 autologin with immediate screenlock?  If so... HOW?18:40
SNAFUdowsereeee:  Woot!  OK!  Life is good!  I got it installed!!!  However, now I still have the black screen problem.  But this time I can actually install drivers to fix it!  So I should follow those steps that you outlined before right?  For fixing black screen on bootup18:41
jrcharneyHello. I have a trifecta of problems that I know the solution does not include "Restart the computer" as that is NOT the solution.18:41
usr13ashva: Yes.  grep name /proc/cpuinfo18:42
eeeeSNAFUdowser: yeah, nomodeset18:42
ashvaeeee: 4*model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4550U CPU @ 1.50GHz18:43
=== tk456 is now known as e-coffee
jrcharneyProblem 1 of 3: Why doesn't the sound settings stay at "HDMI / DisplayPort 2" when the computer wakes up from either a suspend or just dimming the screen to save energy?18:43
SNAFUdowsereeee: Sweet thanks again.18:43
eeeenp18:43
jrcharneyProblem 2 of 3: Why doesn't Bluetooth work on my computer anymore? Bluetooth settings do not respond in any GUI.18:44
jrcharneyProblem 3 of 3: The most important one. Why doesn't Wifi work on my computer anymore?  I put the computer to sleep and it never came back on, not even when I went into any of the GUI stuff.18:45
jrcharneyI'm no where need a ethernet cable. I'm typing this on another computer.18:45
usr13jrcharney: iwconfig  #What does that say?18:45
RoBo_Vhey guys, how can I add Ubuntu user to samba share. Working on alll windows but when in ubuntu it says no privilleges18:47
ashvaeeee: So it seems it only has 4 cores of cpu. it so strange for a core i7 cpu18:47
eeeeashva: yeah, i'm trying to find the specs18:48
samikrimislm18:48
jrcharneyusr13: eth0, eth1, and lo no wireless extensions.  Prior to my most recent wakup, wlan0 said the same thing.  Now it says the following:   IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID: off/any  Mode: Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated  Tx-Power=27 dBm  Retry  long limit:7  RTS thr: off  Fragment thr: off  Power Management: off18:49
usr13ashva: Core i7 is a Quad Core processor line18:49
usr13ashva: Core i5 is a Dual Core processor line18:50
eeeeusr13: i have 8 cores, i found that some have 4, even 218:50
usr13jrcharney: Are you using network manager?18:50
ashvausr13: thanks's for reply. well you mean the outout of lscpu is correct18:51
jrcharneyusr13: `lspci | grep -i wireless` returns 03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)18:51
ashvausr13: actually I previously had a vaio laptop this a core i7 CPU with 8 cores of cpu18:51
jrcharneyusr13: Where is that?18:51
jrcharneySystem settings > Network?18:52
ashvaeeee: Yes my previous laptop had 8 cores of cpu18:52
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usr13eeee: ashva Well, I dono but that was the impression I got from it all.... I may be wrong...18:53
lonewulf85Hey I had 14.04 on my pc then downgraded it to 12.04 (because I like it better) now compiz does not function properly any help.18:53
usr13jrcharney: yes18:53
aoxihi there. within the last three days ive noticed different behavior when my session is inactive for the defined amount of time. xscreensaver and the power manager settings are set to only put display to sleep and not lock the session. yet now, the session is getting locked.18:54
aoxii looked through recently updated packages but dont see anything relevant to report a bug to. i thought maybe systemd/pam stuff but after persuing the bug fixes related to the update, they didnt seem relevant, and to be honest, i dont know enough about their interaction with xscreensaver to know for sure that might be the packages at fault18:55
jrcharneyusr13: I have it open now.  Airplane Mode is off. Wireless is selected. My home wireless network is listed but its status is "Out of range".  I click on the orange ">" it syas it is unmangaged.  Only the Hardware Address is listed.18:55
aoxiso i am wondering, if anyone else has had this issue, if there are any known bug reports for it, or if someone could point me in the right direction as to filing a bug report for the most likely package responsible for this unintended behavioral change18:55
jrcharneyI've now clicked on the "Settings..." button18:56
ashvaeeee, usr13, thank you very much for you time. you both are right. I only have 4 core sof CPU18:57
jrcharneyI'm browsing though all the tabs "General, Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi Security, IPv4 Settings, IPv6 Settings".  Everything looks normal18:57
jrcharneyStill no connection18:57
eeeeashva: np18:58
usr13jrcharney: "looks normal" is subjective18:58
usr13jrcharney: ping router.ip18:58
usr13jrcharney: route -n  #Router's IP?18:59
jrcharneyusr13: Just a second, I need to remember what my router IP number is18:59
jrcharneyusr13: connect: Network is unreachable19:01
aoxii just realised its not actually an xscreensaver lock as that looks different. what i am seeing is the prompt as ifi  were logging in, but it unlocks the session19:03
jrcharneyusr13: I tried adding an http:// to the begining of the IP address and got "ping: unknown host http://192.168.1.254"  methinks, the version without the http:// part is more correct19:04
jrcharneystill offline btw19:05
jrcharneyanyone still here?19:07
razi_HI19:11
* jrcharney thinks IRC may have just gone through a tunnel19:12
grobe0bajrcharney, what is your problem19:12
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CaLdeRoN.19:14
grobe0bajrcharney, i can't help you if you don't tell me what your problem is19:14
CaLdeRoNsie amk cocugu19:14
grobe0baCaLdeRoN, english, please19:14
sapikwhat19:14
CaLdeRoNok19:15
CaLdeRoN.)19:15
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wall3dHello team Ubuntu!19:16
jrcharneyusr13: you still there?19:16
maddawg2we aint a team19:16
wall3dfair enough19:16
Muchachaohi guys, which tool to use to edit keyboard behavior?19:17
wall3dan informed mass19:17
maddawg2i dont even know half of them19:17
maddawg2more than half19:17
aoxifyi, i found the solution. the problem was with light-locker not having its default settings applied to the autostart configuration on default installation or upgrade19:17
_2_Chopin4453ok19:17
Krakkosthere's no 'me' in team... no, wait19:17
aoxihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker-settings/+bug/130691719:17
sapikMuchachao, like shortcut?19:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1306917 in light-locker-settings (Ubuntu) "light-locker: screen always automatically locked" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:17
maddawg2oh no... it's 3:17 and i havent gotten out of bed yet19:18
maddawg2yikes19:18
_2_Chopin4453stop sending me lots of messages19:18
RoBo_Vtrying to add ubuntu user to my samba share folder, working on windows though. But on Ubuntu saying 'no permissions'... tried adding user says 'Failed to add entry for user'19:18
Muchachaosapik, I would like to change the CAPS-LOCK key into CTRL for my own convenience19:19
wall3dWhy would package 'openjdk-7-jre-headless' depend on 'ca-certificates-java' when 'ca-certificates-java' depends on 'openjdk-7-jre-headless'?19:19
atlasloewenherzhi everyone19:20
Krakkosyo19:20
tuhinkarmakaratlasloewenherz: Hello.19:20
atlasloewenherzanyone of you running 14.04 and having problem with aptitude not able to deal with multiarch dependencies ? amd64 and i386 ?19:21
tuhinkarmakarHrishi: Hello.19:21
sapikMuchachao, maybe keymaps is the answer. i'm reading the man pages now19:21
Muchachaohow to change from su to normal user?19:24
sapikMuchachao, type exit19:25
sapikor logout19:25
Muchachaosapik, thank you very much?19:25
Muchachaosapik, i mean !!!19:25
harriseeee,  my script changes the line of the icons to the right location but the icons change to the gear not the custom icon19:27
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jrcharneyusr13: You still here buddy?19:30
=== jje is now known as Guest15184
sapikMuchachao, you can do it with xmodmap. let me read more about it.19:31
uRockAfter installing Nemo, should I keep Nautilus installed or remove it?19:31
jrcharneyusr13: You still here buddy?19:31
grobe0bajrcharney, for the third time, _what is your problem_?19:31
harriseeee,  you here19:32
satelite_hello19:32
uRock!hello19:33
jrcharneyThree problems, grobe0ba. But the one I was working on with usr13 may have been derailed by the netspilt, so I'll try to restate them.19:33
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jrcharneyProblem 1 of 3: Why doesn't the sound settings stay at "HDMI / DisplayPort 2" when the computer wakes up from either a suspend or just dimming the screen to save energy?19:33
jrcharneyProblem 2 of 3: Why doesn't Bluetooth work on my computer anymore? Bluetooth settings do not respond in any GUI.19:33
jrcharneyProblem 3 of 3: The most important one. Why doesn't Wifi work on my computer anymore?  I put the computer to sleep and it never came back on, not even when I went into any of the GUI stuff.19:34
grobe0bahave you tried rebooting?19:34
jrcharneygrobe0ba: none of these problems can be resolved by rebooting19:34
jrcharneyThey will still happen after rebooting19:34
grobe0baso, you put your computer to sleep, and your wifi wont work?19:34
grobe0baeven after rebooting or shutting down completely?19:35
jon1012bwah the only suitable position template_hook that is nearly everywhere is persona_form19:35
grobe0bajrcharney, despite the greatly improved suspend/resume capablities in linux these days, i still find that they tend to cause problems.19:35
eeeejrcharney: for the wifi, if you press ctrl+alt+f1, do you see a bunch of error msgs? ctrl+alt+f7 brings you back to the desktop19:35
jrcharneyI've put up with them for some time, but once Wifi went out and didn't come back on, that's when I came here19:35
grobe0baoh good, someone who uses ubuntu. jrcharney, talk to eeee19:36
jon1012is it firty to add an hook to template_context_prerender to understand where the user currently us, then check for a value added to the template context to add some UI elements according to the deducted page ?19:36
jon1012dirty*19:36
jon1012oops wrong chan19:36
jrcharneyeeee: No. Infact that never happens19:37
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jrcharneygrobe0ba: The solution is Not "Don't use Suspend", that only kicks the can down the road19:38
eeeejrcharney: ok, well my wifi went off after a hard reboot once, and it started erroring out on the tty, a cold reboot fixed it (shutdown the pc, remove the battery for a bit, then boot)19:38
jrcharneyAnd problems 1, 2, and 3 still happen anyway19:38
=== eduardo is now known as Guest77915
eeeejrcharney: might be worth a shot19:38
grobe0bajrcharney, go talk to eeee. my solution for crap like that, is don't do it. i also don't even use linux anymore19:38
grobe0babecause it's basically gone down the crap, imho19:38
grobe0bai'm right back to my BSDs19:39
jrcharneyeeee: the solution is NOT restarting. Restarting DOES NOT FIX the problem.  I've done it it sitll exits.19:39
eeeejrcharney: did you read the part about removing the battery?19:39
jrcharneyI'm not using a laptop19:40
jrcharneyIn fact, removing the battery, if this was a laptop would be as irrelevant as conducting brain surgury on a person who just had a heart attack19:40
grobe0bajrcharney, no, it wouldn't19:40
eeeejrcharney: well, funny you say so, it fixed my issue19:41
grobe0bait can in fact cause capacitors to discharge, sometimes helping things19:41
atlasloewenherzwhere do i find aptitude's logs in 14.04 ?19:41
eeeeand somebody told me to do it, and said he bet it was the issue19:41
eeeeafter reviewing a ton of logs19:41
eeeejrcharney: anyways, good luck!19:41
grobe0bajrcharney, since you obviously aren't willing take any advice, i would suggest you just go back to windows. you seem to have the mentality for it.19:41
jrcharneyOh, don't give me that "cognitave disdance" crap.  A few minutes ago, I was chatting with someone whose answer was not that of a reddit user.  Giving up for losers.19:43
grobe0bajrcharney, ah, but at least the losers can spell.19:43
rwwcan we cut it out with the unhelpful attitudes? thanks.19:43
jrcharneyWhen I say "REBOOTING DOES NOT WORK" I mean "REBOOTING DOESN'T FREAKING WORK!"19:43
sapikrebooting ubuntu?19:44
eeeejrcharney: ok, for the record you could turn the power supply off, i don't think it would work19:44
eeeeit was just a suggestion19:44
sapikdoes shutdown works jrcharney ?19:45
* jrcharney smacks eee and grobe0ba upside the head19:45
Guest88723:jrcharney: don't worry! this type of rage is very common for people in the process of abstaining from windows & it *will* pass, with time and perseverance :-)19:45
Guest88723be strong & learn zen & the art of I.T problem solving to achieve transcendance...19:46
jrcharneyI'm not here to fix a power problem.  Let me restate the three problems I'm having that Rebooting, shutting down, or even tossing the computer out the freaking window will now work:19:46
jrcharneyProblem 1 of 3: Why doesn't the sound settings stay at "HDMI / DisplayPort 2" when the computer wakes up from either a suspend or just dimming the screen to save energy?19:47
jrcharneyProblem 2 of 3: Why doesn't Bluetooth work on my computer anymore? Bluetooth settings do not respond in any GUI.19:47
jrcharneyProblem 3 of 3: The most important one. Why doesn't Wifi work on my computer anymore?  I put the computer to sleep and it never came back on, not even when I went into any of the GUI stuff.19:47
grobe0bajrcharney, have you tried using iwconfig?19:47
grobe0baor tried restarting NM>19:48
grobe0ba*NM?19:48
jrcharneygrobe0ba: iwconfig only shows the status of my wifi devices19:48
grobe0baiwconfig <--- it also configures them19:48
grobe0batry stopping NM and configuring with iwconfig and see if it connects19:49
sapiklaptop or pc, jrcharney?19:49
grobe0basapik, not laptop19:49
sapikoh ok19:49
grobe0bajrcharney, have you actually looked at any logs?19:49
jrcharneyEarilier all of the devices said "no wirless extensions"19:50
grobe0bainteresting.19:50
jrcharneylater wlan0 started showing the following again:  IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID: off/any  Mode: Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated  Tx-Power=27 dBm  Retry  long limit:7  RTS thr: off  Fragment thr: off  Power Management: off19:50
SNAFUdowserHey how can I disable the current graphics drivers that are installed, and then install the correct drivers for my nvidia graphics card?  (in the terminal) I was following this tutorial: http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/ but I think I messed something up while doing it because next time I tried to boot it would hang on the start screen with just a cursor.  Thxxx19:50
grobe0bajrcharney, check /var/log/messages19:50
grobe0bamight be something in there19:50
_unreal_any one ever tried to install a drawing tablet? I got one of these bamboo tablets and I cant get it to work19:50
grobe0baalso, try restarting networkmanager19:50
grobe0bathat might bring it back to life19:51
jrcharney/var/log/messages does not exist19:51
eeeejrcharney: i think grobe0ba means /var/log/syslog, and sudo service network-manager restart , is the command he's referring to19:51
grobe0bawhen the hell did they change it away from messages?19:51
grobe0babloody stupid.19:52
jrcharneysudo: services: command not found19:54
jrcharneyThere is no service called network-manager19:54
jrcharneyThere is no service called networkmanager either19:54
grobe0bayeah, the command is 'service'19:55
grobe0bano s19:55
eeee^^19:55
grobe0batry initctl list | grep net19:55
sapikNetworkManager19:55
grobe0ba^ what sapik said, then19:55
grobe0basudo service NetworkManager restart19:56
eeeeno, it's network-manager19:56
grobe0basomebody check bloody check initctl19:56
grobe0bai don't have anything to check on19:56
MonkeyDustgrobe0ba  drop the word bloody please19:57
jrcharneynetwork0manager stop/wating19:57
grobe0bajrcharney, you did service restart?19:58
eeeei think that's the initctl list19:58
grobe0baMonkeyDust, just ban me. it's simpler like that.19:58
eeeejrcharney: well, that's your issue, sudo service network-manager start19:58
grobe0baeeee, could be, but service will do that to sometimes19:58
michal__hello19:58
ampyyoooo19:58
jrcharneynetwork-manager start/running, process 2963919:59
jrcharneywifi is still not working19:59
jrcharneyI could do the same thing for bluetooth and get the same results.  No working.19:59
jrcharney`initctl list | grep net` returns nothing19:59
ampySo I don't know what happened, but I was messing around with groups and I ended up making it so that I'm not in the sudoers file19:59
grobe0bajrcharney, yeah, i shoudlve said grep -i19:59
ampyand now I can't fix anything because i don't have permissions19:59
grobe0babut don't worry about it19:59
grobe0bait is irrelephant now19:59
ampywhat do?19:59
eeeeampy: grub > recovery20:00
jrcharneylag finally let up on the IRC20:00
atlasloewenherzthis is a new installation of 14.04 server edition and the first thing i'm facing is dependencies conflicts that have there root in multi arch support  apt-cache show libc-bin => https://gist.github.com/atlasloewenherz/5f4d554e675cb1c72b4720:00
jrcharney`initctl list | grep -i net` returns nothing20:00
atlasloewenherzit seems that the multi arch support is broken20:00
ampyeeee thanks20:01
grobe0bajrcharney, weird. oh well. it still doesn't matter20:01
eeeeampy: np20:01
grobe0baso, network-manager is running20:01
grobe0bano networks listed in the gui?20:01
jrcharneygrobe0ba: no. it's just as broke as ever20:01
grobe0bahmmm20:01
eeeeampy: you'll need to drop to a root shell, if that doesn't work add init=/bin/bash to your grub cmdline and execute it, undo the changes20:02
grobe0badid you check /var/log/syslog?20:02
grobe0bathere might be something useful in there20:02
jrcharneywlan0 is there, but no one is home20:02
grobe0bais that what the log says?20:02
jrcharneyA whole bunch of stuff, but I can't copy it to this computer that I'm typing on.  (The problem is on my desktop btw)20:04
grobe0bado you have no way of using ethernet?20:05
grobe0ba'cause that's basically the stuff we need to see to try to figure this out20:05
grobe0bawell, probably, maybe has something, at lesat20:05
jrcharneyethernet is all the way on the other side of the house.20:07
grobe0bathere's nothing else i can do at this point then.20:07
* grobe0ba goes to dinner20:08
eeeejrcharney: try gksu gedit /etc/pm/config.d/config20:10
eeeejrcharney: add this line SUSPEND_MODULES="wl"20:10
eeeesave exit, reboot, then try to suspend and resume, see if the wifi works again20:11
jrcharney/etc/pm/config.d/config does not exist20:12
eeeeyes, it'll be created20:12
jrcharneyThis /msg usr13 Don't leave me hanging20:19
jrcharneyignore that last message20:19
eeeejrcharney: any update?20:19
pagios hi all , i want to run this as soon as my system reboots: /sbin/iw phy phy0 interface add wlan5-sta type managed20:20
pagios<pagios> where should i include it? /etc/rc.local no good @reboot crontba no good20:20
eeeepagios: do you need it to run as root?20:20
pagioseeee: yea20:21
jrcharneyOther than that rebooting the computer never the solution for a problem that keeps happening after rebooting/sleeping/waking up, no20:21
eeeewhy is rc.local no good20:21
pagioseeee: the command doesnt work fine duno ifconfig fdoesnt show it20:21
pagiosif i run the command manually at console it works20:21
eeeejrcharney: i get it, you are against reboots :)20:21
Muchachaowho owns a thinkpad x120e?20:22
jrcharneyYeah, especially when this has happened before, eeee.20:22
SNAFUdowserHey guys how can I propperly install nvidia graphics drivers?  Is there anything special I need to do to disable the graphics drivers included in the base install?20:22
eeeeso you tried to suspend and resume and it still doesn't work right?20:22
jrcharneyI still have two other problems involving broken services that not even chucking the computer out the window would resolve20:23
eeeeSNAFUdowser: are you in the gui?20:23
eeeejrcharney: type rfkill list all20:23
SNAFUdowsereeee: No I'm booting with nomodeset after installing it (as you instructed) with the minimal install.20:23
SNAFUdowser(thanks again for that suggestion :) )20:24
AaronEstradaHola20:24
jrcharney0: phy0: Wireless LAN   Soft blocked: no   Hard blocked: no20:24
eeee( np :) )20:24
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jrcharney1: hci0: Bluetooth   Soft blocked: no   Hard blocked: no20:24
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jrcharneyI metioned bluetooth broken too, right?  Much longer than Wi-Fi has20:25
pagioseeee: i get  error changing net interface name rename4 to wlan5: File exists20:25
jrcharneyBasically that's what happens when you try to get qtSixaxis to work when it kills bluetooth forever when you try to get a dualshock controller to work20:26
ozoman8__020:27
eeeepagios: sounds like the command itself has an error?20:29
pagioseeee: no20:29
eeeepagios: does it work in a terminal?20:29
pagiosyes20:29
BluesKajSNAFUdowser, the recommended nvidia driver for your gpu is the 331, if that driver balks at the lightdm login as it has for some then try the nvidia-331-updates driver..it works on most nvidia gpus IME20:29
SNAFUdowserBluesKaj: Awesome so I just do a sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 and then reboot and everything should work out just fine?20:30
jrcharneyAnd suddently, networking works again.  Problem #3 resolved20:31
SNAFUdowser(besides that one issue you mentioned)20:31
BluesKajSNAFUdowser, yes20:31
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SNAFUdowserAwesome thanks!  :D *crosses fingers*20:31
BluesKajanyway that's it for me ...been a long day, these old eyes need some rest20:31
SNAFUdowserBlueKaj: Sleep well and thanks for the help!20:32
CodeGosugimp takes seconds to launch on my pc, and doing some stuff isnt exeactly fast, what are some light sketching programs on linux that i can fire immidietly and have enviroment immidietly without chosing any settings20:33
jrcharneyskas, where is the Hackathon happening today?20:33
_unreal_CodeGosu, ? what are you trying to do? gimp is not slow unless your computer is low on memory or old or both20:35
_unreal_or if your opening huge raster images with multi layers. that can chew resources on even the fastest systems20:36
bekksCodeGosu: Gimp loads a lot of files at startup, like pencils, and so on - so thats no indicator of gimp being "fast" or "slow". You dont restart gimp upon every step in your workflow.20:37
SNAFUdowserAnyone have any idea why after installing my graphics drivers when I boot into linux it hangs with just a cursor on the screen?  No logo pops up its just a cursor.20:39
eeeeSNAFUdowser: can you get into a tty ?20:40
SNAFUdowsereeee: what's a tty?  How can I get in?  Sorry not familiar20:41
eeeectrl+alt+f120:41
Kirejidoes  net.inet.ip.fastforwarding = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf on 14.04.1 do anything?20:41
SNAFUdowserI'll try20:41
SNAFUdowserThat's on grub or with the cursor?  ctrl+alt+f120:41
eeeecursor20:42
bekksKireji: Did you check wether the kernel in 14.04.1 supports that option?20:42
oktI'm running Xubuntu 14.04, in the NetworrManager applet's dropdown "Edit" is greyed out. How can I edit my connections?20:42
SNAFUdowsereeee: nope can't get in.  Well nothing is happening when I press ctrl+alt+f120:42
SNAFUdowserctrl+alt+delete works though! lol20:42
eeeeSNAFUdowser: when you used nomodeset what happened earlier ?20:42
eeeeSNAFUdowser: what does it do?20:42
eeeereboot?20:42
SNAFUdowserLemme see, i think it was just the cursor (last time I tried that) but I'll try again to be sure20:43
NeedSomeHelpHi, getting "Failed to start session" after upgrading to 14.04. I have tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and dpkg-reconfigure -a, but that didnt help anything. Any other suggestions ?20:43
eeeeNeedSomeHelp: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm ?20:44
eeeeunity maybe20:44
eeeewhere do you get that error?20:44
NeedSomeHelpwill try, 1 minute... I get it when I try to login20:45
Darylwhats a good way to or location to let people know about a new website for Ubuntu? like example ubuntucenter.besaba.com? kind of stuff20:45
jdominguezhi!20:46
SNAFUdowsereeee: Ahh so now it just hangs during the bootup.  It finished like one line of dot movement and then started hanging. :(20:47
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eeeeSNAFUdowser: try to boot into text mode20:50
eeeethen install the xorg drivers20:50
richacso I can't believe how easy apparmor was to install20:50
SNAFUdowsereeee: Is booting into textmode the same as booting with nomodeset?20:51
eeeeno, add text instead of nomodeset20:51
SNAFUdowserAwesome thanks :D20:51
NeedSomeHelpeeee: working, thanks20:53
eeeeNeedSomeHelp: great, np20:53
SNAFUdowsereeee: so adding "text" where I used to put "nomodeset" is not working and just booting into the cursor again.  Is there something else i should do or should I reinstall and that time install xorg drivers or something?  I can reinstall in like 10 mins lol20:55
eeeeSNAFUdowser: try grub > recovery > start networking > drop to root shell20:57
SNAFUdowsereeee: so it's hanging on "input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP, pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card2/input21"21:06
SNAFUdowserThere are a bunch of entries liek that btw21:06
eeeeSNAFUdowser: try to press enter and stuff, who knows21:08
SNAFUdowserdamn nothing works.  Should I reinstall and try an opensource graphics driver or something?21:08
SNAFUdowser(btw my graphics card works, it's just fine in windows and osx)21:08
ktosiekugh, maybe now someone knows: what might cause ~3-4s sound latency when using Bluetooth headset?21:10
usr13SNAFUdowser: If it is just a graphics driver you should not have to re-install, just install graphics driver.21:10
usr13SNAFUdowser: Ctrl-Alt-F6 and login21:10
ktosiek(and BTW is the Apple's headset battery status indication supported? Or do we have to wait for bluez 5 for this?)21:11
andybrineim wondering if anyone as come across this problem21:12
andybrinewhen I open a new tab in the epiphany browser it just closes21:12
eeeeandybrine: epiphany kind of sucks, i've never had a session it didn't crash in21:17
andybrineI have used the browser and thought it worked well21:18
eeeeSNAFUdowser: try without start networking21:18
eeee( drop to root shell )21:19
usr13andybrine: Try firefox21:19
andybrineits frustrating that I click to open a new tab and within seconds it closes21:19
eeeeandybrine: how do you minimize in it? i never figured that out21:19
andybrineI have tried other browsers are wanted to try this one21:19
andybrinedont think you can21:20
usr13andybrine: How did you like konqueror?21:20
andybrineim in gnome3 and I just drag down from the top bar21:20
LuchaLibreHi!21:20
andybrineI have not ever user konqueror to be honest21:20
usr13andybrine: ok21:20
LuchaLibreI need help with installing a program from tar.gz21:21
eeeeLuchaLibre: what's the name of the program?21:21
usr13LuchaLibre: Use the package management system.21:21
LuchaLibreeeee: Yugioh Pro21:21
LuchaLibreusr13: how?21:21
usr13LuchaLibre: Search for it with apt-cache21:22
LuchaLibreusr13: Run that command?21:22
eeeeit doesn't seem to be there21:22
wald0is ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 still supported? and until which year?21:23
expungewald0: doesn't matter, you shouldn't put off updating21:23
bekkswald0: 12.04 is, until 2017, 12.10 isnt supported anymore.21:23
eeeeLuchaLibre: tar xzvf filename.tar.gz21:24
LuchaLibreeeee: I should run that command?21:24
usr13LuchaLibre: Whawt is Yugioh ?21:24
eeeewald0: 12.04 , until 201721:24
LuchaLibreusr13: A very popular card game based on an anime21:24
wald0expunge: i have a pretty broken ubuntu install because the repos dont works anymore, i want to reinstall from scratch, but i dont want this problem to happen again because the crappy lts policy that removes the repos21:25
wald0ah, so 12.04 then, thx bekks21:25
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LuchaLibrepumba: Lion King much?21:25
eeeewald0: why don't you install 14.04?21:26
pumbayes21:26
* LuchaLibre pets pumba. "Hehe :D"21:26
pumbai'm having a problem with ubuntu install on an acer lappy with 14.04 .. trackpad goes nuts - is this a common problem?21:26
eeeeLuchaLibre: yeah21:26
pumbatouching the trackpad- makes it just go wild and i can't control the mouse21:27
pumbathe pointer21:27
LuchaLibrepumba: do you have a usb mouse around?21:27
pumbayeah21:27
wald0eeee: some application seems like to require specifically this version for compatibility with libs21:27
wald0mmmh, whats the codename for 12.04 ?21:27
expungewald0: LTS propagates an idea that it is somehow smart to avoid updating, but21:27
eeeeprecise21:27
expungewald0: it's your own fault if you do it21:27
LuchaLibrepumba: Don't touch the trackpad, we will try to determine how we can fix it.21:27
expungewald0: when there is software you can update, you should endeavour to figure out how to update to it as soon as possible21:27
eeee( @ wald0 )21:27
expungeforever21:27
expungeuntil the end of time21:27
wald0expunge: i have not said htat i wanted to update, i havbe just say "broken repos"21:28
LuchaLibrepumba: first get the usb mouse plugged and ready.21:28
pumbaokay LuchaLibre  - I've seen some forum threads with people with the same problem but not really any ways to fix it21:28
pumbaalright21:28
wald0so just think about a system where you cannot install ANYTHING, crazy21:28
expungewald0: no, _I_ have said you should update =P21:28
gdoteofwhen i do apt-get install ruby, i get "settingu p ruby 1.9.1"21:29
wald0expunge: i let the updates for your life, i want peaceful stable living without surprises :), seems like you have more free time than me21:29
gdoteofif i do ruby -v, it says 1.9.3p48421:29
expungewald0: stability is a moving target21:29
wald0expunge: my time too21:29
expungewald0: you need to update to keep it forever21:29
wald0i dont want to update ! lol21:29
expungewald0: well 5 years should be enough time to manage a single update21:29
gdoteofwhen i try and install compass, i get complaints about 1.9.121:29
gdoteofand if i do ls /usr/lib/ruby it only has 1.9.1 in there21:30
LuchaLibrepumba: have you got the mouse in?21:30
gdoteofi just did a purge/reinstall and its all the same, ic an't tell wtf is going on21:30
pumbaLuchaLibre yes laptop is booting up21:30
LuchaLibrepumba: goodie :321:30
usr13wald0: You are on 12.04?  If so, just fix what you have.21:30
pumbaalright ready to go21:31
wald0so whats the name for 12.04 ? hardy?21:31
wald0 i need some name for the debootstraping21:31
gdoteofand, i am on 14.0421:31
LuchaLibrepumba: how is the usb mouse working?21:31
pumbaye21:31
Kirejiwhere is a good place to read changes from 12.04 lts to 14.04 lts?21:31
eeeewald0: precise21:31
wald0thx21:31
pumbayes21:32
LuchaLibrepumba: If it's working then that means your trackpad isn't supported.21:32
LuchaLibreOr21:32
LuchaLibreIsn't configured21:32
LuchaLibreProperly21:32
pumbawell the trackpad moves21:32
pumbathe pointer21:32
pumbabut the problem is21:32
LuchaLibreConfig issues then21:32
LuchaLibreHmm21:32
LuchaLibreDo you know the make/model of your trackpad?21:32
pumbahave an Aspire E 11 laptop21:33
* eeee can't help but state that hardy is 8.04 , you need to update more man!21:33
pumbaI'm sure i can find the specs21:33
eeee( sorry )21:33
eeee:D21:33
LuchaLibrepumba: Do so21:33
usr13Kireji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes21:34
LuchaLibreChocolate Raaaaain.21:35
Kirejiusr13: thank you!21:35
LuchaLibrepumba: Le Specs?21:35
pumbacant find the trackpad model info21:35
pumbajust says large precision trackpad21:35
pumbastill looking21:36
eeeepumba: xinput21:36
eeeetype that21:36
Kirejihow do I manage which services start at boot in 14.04 lts?21:37
expungepumba: sure it's clean?21:37
Kirejimysql is starting at reboot and I don't want it to21:37
LuchaLibrepumba: try this command cat /proc/bus/input/devices > ~/devices21:37
bekks!upstart | Kireji21:37
ubottuKireji: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/21:37
Kirejibekks: thank you!21:38
pumbagot it21:40
LuchaLibrepumba: What does it say?21:41
Kirejibekks: reading http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html  - so I edit .conf files in /etc/init ?21:41
bekksKireji: yes21:42
Kirejibekks: is there a console interface/program to manage the .conf files, or is it expected we edit them manually?21:42
bekksKireji: The latter :)21:43
pumbaLuchaLibre21:43
pumbadid u get it21:43
pumbahttps://ghostbin.com/paste/gfmut21:44
LuchaLibrepumba: turn away off21:44
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pumbawayshould be off now21:44
Kirejigood21:44
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MarwanproUbuntu is for noob21:45
MarwanproArch is better21:45
Kirejiwhat's plymouth ?21:46
Kirejicancel that it's here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth21:46
Basketballl!chown21:47
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions21:47
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usr13Basketballl: 755 for directories, 644 for riles21:47
usr13basketball:  chmod21:48
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SDrhey, any recommendation for a visual tool similar to process explorer in windows, for ubuntu 14.04?21:52
SDrqps fail :/21:52
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expungeqps?21:56
usr13SDr: htop21:57
usr13SDr: But lot more detail21:57
SDrso, yeah, graphical21:57
expungeSDr: http://alternativeto.net/software/process-explorer/?platform=linux21:57
muzzuquak21:59
muzzuquak21:59
LuchaLibreI wish colleges offered a Bachelor's in Linux :(21:59
muzzuquaak21:59
LuchaLibreNone in the US do.21:59
LuchaLibre>.<21:59
dw1whenever I look in Recent Documents in any program there's never anything there.. any ideas?22:00
expungesure they do22:00
expungethey offer whatever you're goofy enough to give your time and money away for22:00
muzzu@uaak22:00
expungeincluding being a librarian22:00
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Love_Storyhello people22:06
sureyyahello :D22:06
zerothistrying to boot trusty live CD on my toshiba satellite a25-s2792. splash shows & some "ali15x3" errors that blink too fast to read . then 'starting display manager'. then screen goes black. REISUB works after that.22:06
LuchaLibreWoot!22:06
LuchaLibreI fixed an issue22:07
LuchaLibreMy first one :D22:07
LuchaLibreWhooo22:07
Love_Storywhat22:07
sureyyane edi22:07
Love_StoryI dont understand you22:07
sureyya:D22:07
LuchaLibreI helped someone with an issue22:07
Love_Storyý dont know sureyya22:07
Love_Storywhat is your issue?22:08
Basketballl!chown22:09
LuchaLibre!victory22:09
Basketballlubottu, chown22:09
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions22:09
LuchaLibreubottu, victory22:09
* LuchaLibre has fixed his first issue and is dancing throughout the chatroom22:11
LuchaLibreAnyone need help?22:12
zerothisLuchaLibre: I do22:12
sureyyanein22:12
sureyyayok22:12
sureyyano22:12
sureyya)22:12
LuchaLibrezerothis: Explain?22:12
LuchaLibrezerothis: What is wrong?22:13
zerothistrying to boot trusty live CD on my toshiba satellite a25-s2792. splash shows & some "ali15x3" errors that blink too fast to read . then 'starting display manager'. then screen goes black. REISUB works after that.22:13
LuchaLibreREISUB?22:13
Basketballlhow do i change the root folder /home/harris/icons to a normal folder no root22:13
zerothisalt+REISUB to reboot22:14
sureyyasleeping22:14
sureyya:(22:14
sureyyauykum varrr Love_Story22:14
zerothisREISUB works so Linux is working, just cant see it on the screen or run an GUI22:14
usr13Basketballl: chown it, sudo22:14
LuchaLibrezerothis: seems out of my league, will try to find some info22:15
Basketballlusr13,  what command though22:15
usr13Basketballl: I assume that what you are saying is that folder is owned by root and not harris, right?22:15
Basketballlyes22:15
OerHekszerothis, looking at the specs, Ali/Trident chipset, i would recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu22:15
usr13Basketballl: sudo chown harris /home/harris/icons22:15
LuchaLibreusr13: You think you could help zerothis?22:15
usr13LuchaLibre: With ___________?22:16
usr13Oh...22:16
LuchaLibreYeah22:16
zerothisyes, Lubuntu is giving me the same problem22:16
LuchaLibrezerothis: talk to usr13 about it. He's my senior in these kind of things.22:16
usr13zerothis: What is REISUB?22:16
usr13LuchaLibre: *(I don't know what REISUB is.)22:17
LuchaLibreusr13: He won't explain it either22:17
usr13LuchaLibre: zerothis Looking at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222035622:17
OerHeksREISUB = Magic_SysRq_key22:17
LuchaLibrezerothis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222035622:18
zerothisusr13: as the joke goes, (R)eboot (E) (I)f (S)ystem (U)dderly (B)roken. it is a series of commands to cleanly shutdown Linux22:18
OerHeks Retourner En Islande Sur Un Bateau :-D22:18
usr13!REISUB22:19
ubottuIn an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key22:19
Bashing-omLuchaLibre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses .22:19
LuchaLibreusr13: I solved one issue today at least.22:19
LuchaLibre>.<22:19
zerothisubottu: tell your programmers that REISUB shuts down, it does not reboot22:20
ubottuzerothis: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:20
wipewww\22:20
nadirhello22:20
LuchaLibreubotto: You're awesome :P22:21
LuchaLibreubottu: You're awesome :P22:21
ubottuLuchaLibre: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:21
LuchaLibreYeap22:21
IdleOne!msgthebot | If you want to play22:21
ubottuIf you want to play: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".22:21
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LuchaLibrezerothis: I would help you but it's kind of out of my range of expertise. Try making a forum thread on the Ubuntu Forums22:22
usr13zerothis: Did you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key ?22:22
zerothisusr13: yes22:23
usr13zerothis: So tell me more....22:23
usr13zerothis:  (Not much to go on yet...)22:24
usr13zerothis: *(need to know what is broken before we can figure out how to fix it.)22:24
LuchaLibreusr13: maybe the disk he's using is corrupted?22:25
usr13LuchaLibre: Possibly.22:26
LuchaLibrezerothis: when you boot into the Live CD are you able to reach the menu?22:26
usr13!fsck | zerothis22:26
ubottuzerothis: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot22:26
usr13LuchaLibre: but we are only speculating as we know precious little about zerothis' computer and what has been done to it.22:27
zerothisyes, live CD menu works. Trying to try or install does not. screen flashes errors to quickly, "ALI15X3" is the only bit I can recall. "ALI15X3" appears multiple times in multiple lines of errors22:27
LuchaLibrezerothis: is there a check cd for errors option in the menu?22:28
zerothisI checked the CD, drives, and memory for errors, no errors reported22:28
usr13zerothis: Did you run a checksum on the ISO?22:28
usr13md5sum | zerothis22:28
usr13!md5sum | zerothis22:28
ubottuzerothis: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:28
zerothischecksum checks out ok22:28
usr13zerothis: And the burn process completed without errors?22:29
LuchaLibreusr13: This might be it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24709922:29
zerothisyes, burned correctly, hence the correct MD522:30
LuchaLibreusr13: Also according to this it might be faulty hardware22:30
LuchaLibreusr13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174999122:30
usr13LuchaLibre: That's what I was about to say... sounds like a hardware issue, zerothis22:31
LuchaLibrezerothis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174999122:31
intxd22:32
zerothisyes, I've had some videocards give me similar issues in the past. But only after I successfully installed Linux22:32
usr13LuchaLibre: zerothis ... but again, we know precious little about the PC and what has been done to it so....22:32
LuchaLibreusr13: Yes, we're pulling at straws here22:32
usr13zerothis: Could you clarify what that last statement?22:33
usr13zerothis: Let's start over;  What exactly happens when you boot the system?  (What do you see on the screen in the end?)  Is it just a black screen?22:34
usr13zerothis: If so:22:34
zerothispast issues, after successful installing xubuntu, lubuntu, and debian, I've had the computer reboot and show a blank screen when the display manager should appear22:35
usr13!nomodeset | zerothis22:35
ubottuzerothis: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:35
usr13zerothis: What video chip is in it now?22:35
OerHeksusr13, he has an laptop with Ali/Trident chipset22:36
CodeGosuis there a way i can make virtual microphone that plays mp3?22:36
usr13I dono...22:37
OerHeksCodeGosu, microphones are used to record, not to play22:37
usr13CodeGosu: You can do virtually anything with a virtual microphone.22:37
CodeGosuim only in chrome atm22:38
CodeGosusorry wrong window22:38
zerothisnomodeset sounds promising, I'll investigate that. I'm not sure of the chip. It's got that awful shared video memory 'feature' so I'm guessing it's that old intel 900 or 800 series. But, I thought intell issues were fixed in ubuntu several releases ago. I've successfully installed quantal on systems with these cards without issues22:38
usr13CodeGosu: I should warn you that my last comment was purely humor.22:39
zerothisOerHeks: ALI/Trident, thanks (didn't know they were still arround after the 199s)22:39
LuchaLibreusr13: A jolly good fellow22:39
usr13Yea, that's me...22:39
LuchaLibreusr13: Let's hope nomodeset helps zero22:40
LuchaLibreI'll be back in a while, since all seems to be well22:41
zerothisnomodeset (apparently) failed.22:41
LuchaLibreoh22:41
LuchaLibrethat is not good22:41
LuchaLibreMaybe there is something wrong with the hardware..?22:42
zerothisAH! HA! "forcevesa" typed in the same place instead of nomodeset seems to be working!22:42
ObrienDavewell, that's a new one :)22:42
LuchaLibrezerothis: Congrats. Like I said, not my area XD22:42
LuchaLibreTake care folks!22:43
zerothisI'm not holding my breath for it yet. As I said, in the past, blank screen at GUI issues happened _after_ installation.22:44
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zerothisthanks for pointing me the right direction22:50
* zerothis afk22:50
OerHekshave fun22:50
Valarkin_morning - just rebooted server 14.04 and /home has disappeared22:50
OerHeksValarkin_, how do you tell it disappeared?22:52
Valarkin_actually, I misspeak. Home is still there but the user dirs within are now gone.22:52
Valarkin_I tried logging in as a normal user and was told there was no driectory using / for home22:52
Valarkin_No directory, logging in with HOME=/22:53
Valarkin_which is an appropriate emoticon ;)22:53
Valarkin_mount shows /dev/mapper/fileserver-share on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)22:54
OerHeksValarkin_, strange, is this a raid system?22:59
Valarkin_just a large volume22:59
Valarkin_no raid at all22:59
Valarkin_home had originally been on a partiion of the first drive. Once I got the large volume in place I moved home over to it.23:01
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usr13Valarkin_: sudo fdisk -l23:07
usr13Valarkin_: What does that say?23:07
usr13Valarkin_: Oh, you moved home?  Let's see what /etc/fstab looks like.23:08
usr13Valarkin_: Pastebin both...23:08
usr13.... and we will have a look ....23:09
Valarkin_okie dok, one sec23:10
usr13Valarkin_: We may also need to see output of  sudo blkid23:10
usr13!paste | Valarkin_23:11
ubottuValarkin_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:11
parallelsgizmo23:12
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kupo1herro folks. weechat noob here. feels good man23:13
Valarkin_usr13: http://pastebin.com/kiF1FYpc |and| http://pastebin.com/4fU8dgyz |and| http://pastebin.com/TkxDQExv23:15
Valarkin_usr13: Disk /dev/mapper/fileserver-share doesn't contain a valid partition table doesn't look promising ;)23:16
gizmohow do I register my name for irc?23:16
Valarkin_it did before the boot :D23:16
ObrienDave!register | gizmo23:16
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gizmoThanks23:17
usr13Valarkin_: You moved /home/ to another partition but failed to edit /etc/fstab ?23:18
usr13Valarkin_: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?23:18
Valarkin_no I did!23:18
Valarkin_one sec23:18
usr13Valarkin_: Oh, I see.23:19
eeeeValarkin_: home is encrypted?23:20
usr13Valarkin_: Which partition did you move /home/ to?23:21
Valarkin_user13: http://pastebin.com/7UqCQuh9 was the preboot state23:21
Valarkin_to the very large volume23:21
Valarkin_udser13: /dev/mapper/fileserver-share    /home   ext4    defaults       0       223:21
Valarkin_user13 *23:21
eeeeValarkin_: if your /home is encrypted, you have to add it to /etc/crypttab too i think23:23
usr13Valarkin_: Choices are sda1 sdc1 sde1 sdd123:23
Valarkin_I did not intend for home to be encrypted23:23
eeeeValarkin_: why does it say /dev/mapper/home then?23:23
Valarkin_well, I didn't know I could have an intention tbh23:23
Valarkin_ummmmmmmm cause I didn't know what I was doing?23:24
Valarkin_I r teh noob.23:24
eeeei'm confused, did you add it to fstab wrongly, or you mean you encrypted it by mistake?23:24
Valarkin_until you said it was encryped I had no idea23:24
Valarkin_I did wonder at the path form23:25
Valarkin_but23:25
Valarkin_yeah23:25
usr13eeee: should  we just try the blkid ?23:25
eeeethat's what i mean, did you get that from a guide?23:25
eeeethe /dev/mapper/..23:25
Valarkin_yes, ummmm one sec I'll get you the url23:25
Valarkin_eeee: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm23:26
eeeeyeah see lvm = encryption23:26
Valarkin_AH!23:26
Valarkin_Ok, well, it's all a learning experience :D23:27
eeeeusr13: i think he pasted it earlier somewhere23:27
eeeeusr13: hold on23:27
Valarkin_I wish I'd booted before I started all the installing and configging :D23:27
Valarkin_2 weeks ago I know how to doa ls and move a file or two. I've learned quite a lot since. Challenging, but ultimately satifying. I'd be utterly lost without this channel though. You guys rock ;)23:28
usr13eeee: I'm talking about replacing /dev/mapper/fileserver-share with UUID=what-ever in /etc/fstab23:29
eeeeValarkin_: nevermind, i thought it said luks, lvm isn't encryption23:30
eeeeusr13: yeah sounds good23:30
usr13Valarkin_: So what partition is /home/ on?  Choices are sda1 sdc1 sde1 sdd123:30
Valarkin_oh ok. I'd just twigged that you meant LVM and not the odd path form.23:30
Valarkin_so many acronyms23:31
usr13Valarkin_: (If you can tell us where it is, we can help you.)23:31
usr13Valarkin_: Give us a clue.23:31
Valarkin_sorry, i seem to have missed something23:32
Valarkin_oh the partition23:32
eeeeusr13: this is his blkid http://pastebin.com/TkxDQExv23:32
Valarkin_I'd actually used that first, then thought I would follow the form in the file.23:33
usr13eeee: Oh ok.23:33
Valarkin_ikonia did say there were advantages and disadvantages to each....23:33
usr13Valarkin_: Ok try this.  Edit /etc/fstab and change the last line.23:33
Valarkin_but I didn't dig further.23:33
Valarkin_open23:34
Valarkin_replace th epath with the uid?23:34
usr13UUID=69e1b941-eb97-4dbb-a665-1280df191d4e  /home   ext4    defaults       0       223:34
usr13Valarkin_: Yea, try that.23:34
Valarkin_Ok, restarting the system.23:36
usr13Valarkin_: I don't know if it will work or not but... we will see.23:37
Valarkin_ok, back in. It's still reporting Could not chdir to home directory /home/ipt: No such file or directory23:37
Valarkin_do i need to rebuild the user dirs?=23:37
Valarkin_oh I guess I could check to see if it has a valid part first23:38
usr13Valarkin_: Yea, I don't know.23:38
usr13I've used LVM before but not like this....23:38
duckfartshello23:39
Valarkin_no valid part.23:39
usr13But really, I've not found much need or use for the features of LVM23:39
Valarkin_Have I chosen an unusual method for combining drives into one volume?23:39
usr13Valarkin_: I'm sure someone else would be better qualified to give you some advise.  I'm not sure what to do with this one.23:40
duckfartsI was trying to clear room on my boot partition because it was too full for ubuntu to update. So I tried removing some of the old packages but now my boot partition is completely empty except for memtest.23:41
duckfartsCan I reinstall ubuntu and keep all the files I still have on my files partition?23:41
usr13duckfarts: Have you deleted all your kernels?23:41
duckfartsI just deleted some old ones in the terminal but now they are all gone23:42
usr13duckfarts: Did you use the package management system to do what you did?23:42
duckfartsi did apt-get remove23:42
usr13duckfarts: Oh, you just deleted files?23:42
Valarkin_usr13: I very much appreciate the effort. It's getting late here - I'll sleep on it and try again tomorrow. Thanks eeee also :D23:42
usr13duckfarts: Well then, you can just apt-get install23:42
usr13duckfarts: What version of Ubuntu are you on?23:43
eeeeduckfarts: if you're boot is empty, you're going to have to install the kernel, grub, and update-initramfs23:43
duckfartsI'm running the newest one from a usb stick23:43
duckfartsmy computer wont boot from harddrive23:43
duckfartsit just runs the memtest23:43
_unreal_?23:43
usr13duckfarts: What version of Ubuntu are you on?23:44
_unreal_will it access a hard drive?23:44
eeeeduckfarts:  you could chroot into it and install23:44
duckfartsim running 14.04 lts from usb at the moment23:44
duckfartsit looks like the boot partition got almost completely wiped23:45
duckfartsbut I still have all my files and shit on the main partition23:45
eeeeduckfarts: try to chroot23:46
usr13duckfarts: So you have a partition for /boot and what others?23:46
duckfartseeee i don't know what chroot is23:46
usr13duckfarts: What partitions do you have?23:47
usr13duckfarts: df23:47
eeeethat'll show mounted partitions23:47
eeee( of the live usb )23:47
usr13!paste | duckfarts23:48
ubottuduckfarts: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:48
eeeeduckfarts: sudo apt-get install pastebinit23:48
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eeeeduckfarts: sudo parted -l | pastebinit23:48
Valarkin_ok, still not gone to bed. I thought I would recreate the fs. I unmounted it, ran "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/fileserver/share" and remounted it. I tried to create home but it said it existed. I went there and all the user dirs are back.23:50
richacis there a way to only log certain ip's with ufw?23:51
duckfartsI installed the pastebinit thing23:51
eeeeduckfarts: ok, run the second command23:51
duckfartsusr13 i have a boot partition that is only 255 mb and then a much larger one with my files23:51
usr13Valarkin_: mkfs should have wiped everything out.23:51
Valarkin_user13: that's what I thought.23:51
usr13duckfarts: That is good information but not specific enough.23:51
Valarkin_I was shocked tbh. Rebooting now .23:52
duckfartsI ran the second one a while ago and nothing has happened yet23:52
eeeeduckfarts: it should return a link to paste.ubuntu.com23:52
duckfartsit didnt23:52
eeeeif you run sudo parted -l , what happens?23:52
usr13duckfarts: sudo fdisk -l > info.text;cat /etc/fstab >>info.text;sudo blkid >>info.text;pastebinit info.text  #Send resulting URL23:53
duckfartsi see my partitions23:53
usr13duckfarts: Yea, but we don't23:53
usr13duckfarts: If you chroot to your root partition and install a kernel you should be good to go.23:54
eeeeduckfarts: can you paste them in the link usr13 referred you to earlier?23:54
delinquentmewhere do I place an alias so that anyone logging into a machine has access to it ?23:54
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eeeedelinquentme: /etc/bash.bashrc i guess23:54
delinquentmeand can use it in their current bash session?23:54
MrElendigdelinquentme: don't23:54
MrElendigdelinquentme: use a script instead23:54
MrElendigwell, unless you are masking something23:55
MrElendigin that case /etc/skel/.bashrc23:55
MrElendigand then let the user grab it if they want it23:55
MrElendigaliases in /etc/bash.bashrc is evil23:56
duckfartshere i uploaded it to imgur http://i.imgur.com/hd2jmlL.png23:56
duckfartsi don't know how to use the chroot command23:56
duckfartsIn my boot partition I still have the grub file but no kernels23:57
usr13duckfarts: pastebinit /etc/fstab   #Send URL23:58
eeeeMrElendig: yeah, thought there might be a better way23:58

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