[00:00] <deemo> OerHeks, unfortunately I cant find that repo in the list... cinepaint right?
[00:03] <OerHeks> deemo, yes, or celeum .. " this will be fixed on monday" 7 moths ago http://www.celeum.com/forums/topic/erro-with-package-dream-studio-software-sources/
[00:03] <OerHeks> *months
[00:03] <deemo> wow 7 months ago
[00:03] <deemo> and not done yet
[00:04] <Demetria> how do i install hexchat
[00:04] <bazhang> via the package manager Demetria
[00:04] <Demetria> Hoo... tks bazhang  found it
[00:05] <OerHeks> nice project, xchat2 clone that is finally free for windows
[00:06] <wowaname> one
[00:06] <wowaname> whole
[00:06] <wowaname> op
[00:07] <wowaname> for 1 557 nicks
[00:07] <wowaname> understaffed much
[00:07] <tanghao> helo，why i cannot use "windows+d" to display my desktop
[00:07] <wowaname> oh the axx list is longer :p
[00:07] <wowaname> tanghao bind it
[00:08] <wowaname> also it's usually called the super key, not windows key
[00:08] <wowaname> on linux anyway
[00:08] <tanghao> yes,super key
[00:09] <tanghao> how to solve the problem?
 tanghao bind it
[00:09] <wowaname> check your window manager documentation
[00:09] <wowaname> or whatever you use for shortcuts
[00:10] <tanghao> where to check the window manager documentation
[00:10] <deemo> OerHeks, thanks found the celeum one and disabled it... and it worked. However I have sent in a message to the forum for Dick the owner, hoping to call attention to it and get it sorted soon.
[00:14] <Baako> i install sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[00:14] <Baako> i created a test.php file but it doesn't work when i do localhost/tets.php
[00:14]  * uRock thinks he's invisible. smh
[00:15] <eeee> Baako: try f5
[00:15] <Baako> Not Found
[00:15] <OerHeks>  created a tets.php
[00:16] <wowaname> oh lord i dont think i can stay in this channel without dropping an iq  point
[00:16] <Baako> got it
[00:17] <uRock> wowaname, what makes you say that?
[00:17] <tanghao> do you know the command used for add a application hotkey?
[00:17] <wowaname> the type of questions being asked in here so far
[00:17] <wowaname> uRock ^
[00:17] <uRock> lol
[00:18] <tanghao>  i am using the Xubuntu14
[00:20] <uRock> tanghao, this is old, but may be helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu scroll down to the last reply
[00:21] <tanghao> uRock, thx
[00:21] <EiriksUbuntu> How do I take the pressure off of one of my dual core and give it to the other?
[00:22] <EiriksUbuntu> Is there a tweak in the newer version?
[00:22] <licnep_> anyone knows what i need to do to have gnome shell on ubuntu 14.04?
[00:23] <licnep_> apt-get gnome-shell?
[00:23] <bazhang> licnep_, with sudo
[00:23] <licnep_> alright
[00:23] <bazhang> dont forget the 'install'
[00:23] <licnep_> yea sorry
[00:23] <EiriksUbuntu> i love gnome
[00:24] <uRock> I love Unity
[00:24] <EiriksUbuntu> I like to keep it sleek and fast (yeah I had that shiny black gnome modded in 10.10)
[00:26] <licnep_> mm it's asking if i want to use gdm or lightdm as display manager
[00:26] <licnep_> any suggestion?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> licnep_: Lightdm=Unity , GDM=Gnome .
[00:27] <licnep_> got it
[00:27] <EiriksUbuntu> yep, GDM is the fastest in my workflow
[00:27] <tanghao> i am so tired ,i cannot open the web address "how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu"in china
[00:28] <tanghao> even though google.hk
[00:28] <tanghao> not to mention google.com
[00:29] <EiriksUbuntu> I wonder if blender will run ok from a usb hdd
[00:35] <Moon_Doggy> i'm getting a /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, and so on. thing is its mbr
[00:35] <Moon_Doggy> win8 is installed but i want to wipe disk
[00:36] <Bashing-om> Moon_Doggy: Wind8-UEFI=GPT partitioning.
[00:36] <EiriksUbuntu> I am really happy about the linux explosion over the last 5 years, I couldn't imagine someone rehashing it for cell phones... lol. Just wait until VR blutooths to android for VR surfing
[00:36] <tanghao> dns : command not find
[00:37] <Moon_Doggy> Bashing-om: its only gpt if you have a uefi/efi bios
[00:37] <Moon_Doggy> i dont
[00:37] <EiriksUbuntu> alright, take care all
[00:38] <Baako> i cant ran simple command like wget download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb
[00:38] <Baako> without using sudo
[00:38] <Bashing-om> Moon_Doggy: OK, But so far as I am aware, Windows8 is installed as UEFI as OEM .
[00:39] <Moon_Doggy> not oem
[00:39] <tanghao> i cannot use the command nameserver to set my DNS,this is why
[00:40] <tanghao> i wanna cry
[00:40] <Bashing-om> Moon_Doggy: Maybe > http://www.rodsbooks.com/missing-parts/index.html < to convert the partition table to MBR ??
[00:41] <mkanyicy> Baako: do you get an error message?
[00:42] <uRock> Can't figure out why the I can't access on Ebay.com. All other sites are working fine.
[00:43] <Baako> just permission message
[00:45] <mkanyicy> Baako: ok. to not use sudoyou must be in the folder you write perms in
[00:51] <Bashing-om> uRock:  ping -c3 ebay.com >PING ebay.com (66.211.160.87) 56(84) bytes of data. > 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2016ms . I ain't just you.
[00:51] <Baako> Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32asound2
[00:51] <Baako> should i be worry?
[00:52] <Bashing-om> uRock: *It ain't just you.
[00:58] <Nandonis> hi :)
[01:00] <Nandonis> I'm new to ubuntu and trying to install Starcraft 2 HOTS. Tried multiple guides but had no succes yet. Anyone who can lend me a helping hand?
[01:01] <uRock> Bashing-om, thanks
[01:01] <uRock> I feel a bit better now.
[01:02] <uRock> Bashing-om, have any ideas what it could be?
[01:04] <OerHeks> Nandonis, check the wineHQ database https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11123 for gamehelp
[01:04] <Glorfindell> how do I see what processes are running so I can kill one?
[01:05] <Bashing-om> uRock: I would hazard to guess the server is down ??, route -n ? see where it dies at ?
[01:05] <Glorfindell> in a terminal
[01:05] <teward> Bashing-om, i think ebay blocks pings... but the site over a web browser resolves here.
[01:06] <OerHeks> !info top
[01:06] <hackel> How can I set the default mixer device used by the audio hotkeys?  This used to be set in gconf, but I am unable to find an equivalent key in dconf...
[01:06] <Glorfindell> pinging ebay works for me teward
[01:06] <teward> Glorfindell, huh...
[01:07] <fishcooker> why i can't do modification even a root http://paste.ubuntu.com/8265436/
[01:08] <Glorfindell> NM I figured it out :)
[01:09] <erikk> Let's just say that the power went out while I was doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for the first time after my fresh install of Ubuntu Gnome. I restarted, put in the command again and was told to sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:09] <erikk> Will this fix any issues for me?
[01:10] <erikk> i.e. I can sleep without worry?
[01:10] <Bashing-om> uRock: teward : Thanks for that .. tried a "traceroute", it also dies on the 7th hop . will see what the browser here does.
[01:10] <teward> Bashing-om, worked in Chrome, I didn't test ffox
[01:11] <Glorfindell> teward: actually it doesn't :( it is pinging data and not getting a response
[01:11] <Glorfindell> and now that tty is tied up :P
[01:11] <schultza> how do i get my computer to show the boot msgs like on a server?\
[01:11] <Bashing-om> teward: uRock confirmed wirk in the Chrome browser, I too can connect to ebay.com .
[01:11] <Bashing-om> wirk/work*
[01:12] <schultza> be back later
[01:14] <uRock> Bashing-om, so it does work in the browser for you?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> uRock: yes .. it do .
[01:14] <uRock> Bashing-om, I can get to the page via my daughter's PC.
[01:15] <uRock> Bashing-om, thanks for checking it out.
[01:16] <Bashing-om> uRock: No sweat here, I wish to know also  why your box is having a problem only with 'ebay' . curious !
[01:17] <mkanyicy> erikk: yes
[01:18] <mkanyicy> molo mncedisi
[01:22] <Bashing-om> uRock: Considering; firewall blocking that IP ?
[01:23] <riley_> Hello, I'm having an issue with my mouse, it's an old ps/2 mouse that has no scroll wheel, and I was wondering what I could do to emulate one
[01:24] <boldfilter1> Hello, I can't login on a fresh install
[01:24] <riley_> Perhaps you miss typed your password during the installation
[01:24] <boldfilter1> I deleted .Xauthority and now it just hangs
[01:25] <Bashing-om> riley_: Change settings in Bios to 'legacy' ??
[01:25] <boldfilter1> Tried that, reinstalled twice
[01:25] <Ben64> boldfilter1: well, why would you do that
[01:25] <boldfilter1> Followed some instructions online
[01:26] <riley_> Bashing-om: That won't help, I want to be able to scroll by holding a certain mouse button and then moving the mouse in the direction I want to scroll
[01:26] <boldfilter1> Guest session works fine
[01:27] <boldfilter1> I can login in terminal fine
[01:28] <riley_> Can anybody help me make it so that i can hold down a mouse button and then move the mouse in the way I wanna scroll?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> boldfilter1: access authorizations ? What returns in terminal from -> ls -al .Xauthority , ls -al .ICEauthority. Who owns your /home -> ls -al /home ?
[01:34] <mkanyicy> riley_: can u re-phrase?
[01:34] <Basketball> eeee, hey
[01:34] <eeee> Basketball: hey
[01:34] <Basketball> did you get it
[01:37] <riley_> mkanyicy: I would like to hold down the middle mouse button and move the mouse so I can scroll in my applications
[01:39] <kyfho> ubuntu!
[01:39] <kyfho> its pisser!
[01:42] <uRock> Bashing-om, I tried disabling ufw, still no connection. I will keep digging at it.
[01:42] <RileyGuy> sorry, my gnome got screwed up
[01:42] <RileyGuy> did i miss something?
[01:43] <RileyGuy> im riley_
[01:45] <Bashing-om> uRock: It is a puzzler, why that sire does not resolve on your box . Hook up sis' box to that cable and see what results > ( I never saw it, but in the router ?) .
[01:45] <Bashing-om> sire/site*
[01:51] <platoes> Is the relationship between Canonical and Lubuntu different than that between Canonical and Xubuntu, Kubuntu ...?
[01:51] <Guest81762> hello I have a problem with my internet conection error (32) not authorized neworking what can I do about it
[01:51] <usr13> platoes: I dont think so.  Why?
[01:52] <usr13> Guest81762: From what application are you getting this error?
[01:53] <tyrannosaurusRek> Why would you user the server version?
[01:53] <tyrannosaurusRek> use*
[01:53] <platoes> usr13: Xubuntu website states "© 2012–2014 Canonical Ltd" While the Lubuntu one states "Creative Commons License lubuntu.net"
[01:54] <platoes> usr13:  © 2010 - 2014 The Kubuntu community.
[01:55] <rww> no, the Xubuntu website states "© 2012–2014 Canonical Ltd and content creators."
[01:56] <KaneVanguard> is there a ubuntu devel utpoic channel
[01:56] <rww> !ubuntu+1
[01:56] <usr13> platoes: See "Lubuntu vs Ubuntu" at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[01:57] <usr13> platoes: "The differences between Lubuntu and Ubuntu are: Different DE - Lubuntu uses LXDE while Ubuntu uses Unity as the default DE.      Different Default Applications
[01:57] <usr13> platoes: Other than that, they are the same. The DE is what makes Lubuntu a lightweight OS, and of course the selected applications too because we make sure to use the lightest applications which are not resource hungry.
[01:58] <platoes> usr13:  Hmmm. Okay. Isn't Ubuntu developed by Canonical employees whereas Lubuntu would be build upon that work through volunteer developers?
[01:59] <uRock> OMGUnicorns!
[01:59] <uRock> sorry, had to get that off of my chest
[01:59] <rww> platoes: Canonical employs some of the people who work on Ubuntu. Those people tend to focus on Ubuntu, yes.
[01:59] <uRock> Bashing-om, I removed the router from the network and connected straight to the modem. It seems my router was messing something up
[02:00] <usr13> platoes: I think the only difference is that Ubuntu is the core project, but Lubuntu and Xubuntu both share the same core system and the same repositories.  The difference is that they have different Desktop Environments.  That's all.
[02:01] <usr13> Well, I didn't say that just right, but you get the idea...
[02:01] <platoes> rww, usr13: Okay - so then do the *ubuntu releases always happen after the ubuntu release, or is there parallel development?
[02:02] <rww> platoes: They release at the same time.
[02:02] <rww> I think there's been once or twice when a flavor released after the fact because of a very-late-found bug
[02:03] <rww> The release cycles only differ in the flavors having betas whereas Ubuntu itself doesn't
[02:03] <platoes> Would ubuntu survive without Canoncial, or does it require the financial backing and so on that a company provides? Would it be able to keep being accessible to the average person if it were to become more community-driven like Debian?
[02:04] <rww> No idea, and I think we're drifting rather off-topic for #ubuntu. You might want to ask #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:04] <usr13> platoes: I would say that the dates are the same.  Lubuntu and Xubuntu may release slightly later, I don't know, (because I don't update on the day of release, I do it when I'm ready, which may be a couple months later, so I don't really keep up with it.
[02:04] <rww> they don't
[02:06] <usr13> platoes: As rww states, this topic would be better for #ubuntu-offtopic.  This channel is for ubuntu, xubunut, lubuntu etc. support
[02:06] <Bashing-om> uRock: Well ! Who would have thunk it ! .. but had to be somehewre in the routing ! .. now it is router documentation time !
[02:07] <platoes> usr13, rww: Right you are! Thanks for answering questions!
[02:07] <spjt> You people are wrong though, sort of
[02:07] <usr13> spjt: Who is wrong?
[02:07] <spjt> usr13: i dunno. I just woke up and my log might be showing something old. It was about the difference between lubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu
[02:08] <usr13> spjt: Ok.  Enlighten us, (at #ubuntu-offtopic).
[02:09] <Basketball> eeee, E: Type 'EOF' is not known on line 16 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:10] <eeee> iirc you were using cat << EOF?
[02:10] <spjt> usr13: in any case I'm using ubuntu now because my bluetooth headphones don't work in xubuntu, because it uses a different program to configure it (that doesn't work). In any case the differences go far beyond just using a different DE
[02:10] <Basketball> sudo cat > /etc/apt/sources.list <<EOF
[02:11] <pacmac> hello
[02:11] <usr13> spjt: May be a different default application, but the same applications are available for both ubnut and xubuntu.
[02:11] <OerHeks> what tutorial says that, Basketball ?
[02:11] <pacmac> I'm trying to run intel_reg_dumper but I'm getting the error "Couldn't find graphics card". why?
[02:13] <usr13> spjt: So if you moved from xubuntu to ubuntu just to configure a device, you probably did more than you needed to.
[02:13] <Basketball> eeee, what do i do
[02:13] <uRock> Bashing-om, I fixed it by switching from eth1 to eth0, and changing ports on the switch. Scratching my head as to why that worked.
[02:13] <spjt> usr13: Depends what that means, for that moment in time it took less time to reinstall than it would to figure out how to fix the problem,.
[02:13] <uRock> Bashing-om, thanks for the help!
[02:14] <spjt> usr13: Another thing is that xubuntu had unbearable video tearing
[02:15] <Bashing-om> uRock: All O did was let ya bounce things off of me .. You did all the thinkong. Still had to be something in the routers routeing tables - somewhere .
[02:15] <usr13> spjt: Same video card, same driver module, same kernel, same video player?
[02:16] <spjt> usr13: different (or lack thereof) compositor, apparently
[02:16] <uRock> Bashing-om, I tried power cycling, but that didn't help. I need to put dd-wrt on it soon
[02:16] <usr13> spjt: Other than the DE, Ubuntu and Xubuntu are the same.
[02:16] <spjt> usr13: I found some workaround where I could use compiz with xfce, but it didn't work very well (fixed the tearing but broke the wm)
[02:17] <usr13> spjt: That could be.
[02:18] <spjt> usr13: Anyway, after using unity for a few days I got used to it, especially since this computer is an i7 and I had been using xubuntu on my other computers because unity was too slow
[02:18] <usr13> spjt: I'm not an authority on compiz, but not sure what difference it makes with video playback, (not sure that it does).
[02:18] <Basketball> eeee,  can you please fix it
[02:19] <sydney> spjt: sounds like a graphics driver issue
[02:19] <spjt> usr13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468
[02:19] <usr13> Basketball: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[02:20] <spjt> usr13: Apparently using Compton is a better solution, but I had given up before that point
[02:20] <sydney> spjt: is it just in xfce? Have you tried lxde?
[02:21] <spjt> sydney: according to that thread lxde is just as bad. Besides, the one dealbreaker for me with lxde has always been that you can't have 2x2 virtual desktops
[02:21] <spjt> I know it seems petty...
[02:21] <usr13> spjt: What video player?  Was it flashplayer?
[02:21] <schultza> how do i get my linux to boot with the bootup msgs rather than the logo like on a server?
[02:22] <usr13> spjt: Were you  playing videos via Firefox?
[02:22] <spjt> usr13: pipelight flash in firefox
[02:22] <sydney> spjt: lxde has virtual desktops,but only 2. ;)
[02:22] <spjt> sydney: You can add more, but only in a horizontal row.
[02:23] <usr13> spjt: Oh, netflix?
[02:23] <spjt> usr13: espn
[02:23] <Bashing-om> schultza: In /etc/default/grub edit > change "quiet splash" to "text" .
[02:23] <usr13> sydney: virtual desktops are not negotiable in lxde?
[02:24] <usr13> spjt: Oh, ok.
[02:24] <spjt> usr13: afaik you can have as many as you want, but you can't configure their arrangement
[02:24] <usr13> spjt: pibelight is a substitute for silverlight, right?
[02:24] <sydney> I use lxde daily,but havent done to much digging in that aspect...
[02:24] <schultza> Bashing-om: then do a grub install again?
[02:24] <usr13> spjt: Oh, ok.  Thanks info.
[02:24] <spjt> usr13: You can run recent versions of Flash in it, which is what ESPN requires.
[02:25] <boldfilter1> Using Ubuntu web browser cuz idgaf
[02:25] <Basketball> eeee,  please can you fix it
[02:25] <spjt> usr13: no, it doesn't work in chrome-unstable. I tried :)
[02:25] <usr13> spjt: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[02:25] <spjt> usr13: 14.04.1
[02:26] <Bashing-om> schultza: No, for the change to take effect -> sudo update-grub <- .
[02:26] <usr13> spjt: What version of Firefox?
[02:26] <schultza> ok.. thanks
[02:27] <spjt> I always thought when I had some time off work I'd get xubuntu working, but enough time passed that I just got used to unity...
[02:27] <usr13> spjt: (The version of firefox can also have an impact, and that changes almost monthly.
[02:27] <kyfho> freebsd and icewm here
[02:27] <kyfho> why should I move to ubuntu?
[02:27] <spjt> usr13: 32.0
[02:27] <Bashing-om> schultza: :) enjoy.
[02:27] <spjt> kyfho: Because you need a new computer.
[02:27] <schultza> Bashing-om: now the gui isnt loading automatically... i want to see the msgs, but still have the gui
[02:28] <kyfho> nop got 6 core amd64 amd and 16g ram
[02:28] <usr13> spjt: That may not really be firefox any more.
[02:28] <kyfho> I need less computing power
[02:28] <kyfho> I have too much
[02:28] <spjt> kyfho: If a 486/33 was still the top of the line I'd probably still be running slackware.
[02:28] <kyfho> I may have become too powerful
[02:28] <kyfho> not hired cuz I get promoted over the chimps there now
[02:29] <kyfho> there is great comedy in him, we must be cautious
[02:29] <kyfho> slackware!
[02:29] <kyfho> lolz
[02:29] <kyfho> never tried it
[02:29] <kyfho> or so long agoz I forgotz
[02:29] <spjt> The reason I stopped using slackware is because I had it running for years on my 486, and it would take me months to get it working the same way on another machine
[02:29] <Bashing-om> schultza: 2 things .. start the desktop ( unity = sudo service lightdm start ), or edit again and use terms "quiet text" .. or perhaps "" will work .
[02:30] <schultza> i got it working with "noquiet"
[02:30] <usr13> spjt: months?  Really?
[02:30] <kyfho> why so long
[02:31] <Bashing-om> schultza: Good deal, Just goes to show I do not know everything all the time ... huh ? .. great ya got it fingered out.
[02:31] <spjt> usr13: I didn't use any packages as there weren't any for most things at the time, it was all built from source basically hand ported to my own installation
[02:31] <usr13> kyfho: Yea, I think that is exaggeration.
[02:32] <usr13> spjt: See my pm
[02:37] <kyfho> I am a unix vet, but a lot of younger goons I interview with dont hire me
[02:37] <uMeeKs> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop. its installed on a 64gb ssd fine, i have a 500gb drive as well that i cant seem to get formatted
[02:37] <kyfho> and have issues
[02:37] <kyfho> I guess I am confused as to what is in the mind of these younger goons that means you are technically adept
[02:37] <uMeeKs> can anyone help
[02:37] <kyfho> knowing ruby seems to be some kinda ego point
[02:38] <kyfho> I think ruby stinks
[02:38] <kyfho> umeeks if all else fails read the directions
[02:38] <uMeeKs> what directions
[02:39] <Donohue> Hey - Having difficulty getting smooth video playback in fullscreen. Using an AMD APU, with FGLRX-updates and Ubuntu 14.04
[02:39] <kyfho> the ubuntu 14.04 server guide of course
[02:39] <kyfho> :)
[02:39] <cfhowlett> !server | uMeeKs
[02:40] <uMeeKs> im not running a server
[02:41] <kostkon> uMeeKs, describe your problem
[02:41] <kostkon> !details
[02:41] <uMeeKs> alright
[02:41] <uMeeKs> i have 2 hard drives installed in this laptop, a ssd with ubuntu and a sata 500gb drive
[02:41] <spjt> Donohue: playing video with what
[02:42] <uMeeKs> in Disks it not allowing me to format the 500gb
[02:42] <boldfilter1> How would I repair permissions if a file is from another system
[02:42] <kostkon> uMeeKs, you mean the button is not clickable?
[02:43] <uMeeKs> no
[02:43] <Donohue> spjt, Any full screen video appears to tear / is choppy.
[02:43] <uMeeKs> when  i try to create a new partition it errors out
[02:43] <cfhowlett> uMeeKs, this is while booting a USB ubuntu, yes?
[02:44] <kostkon> uMeeKs, install gparted and try using that.
[02:44] <uMeeKs> ubuntu is installed
[02:44] <noons> +1 on gpart
[02:44] <kostkon> uMeeKs, come back if you still have problems or you need further help
[02:44] <Bashing-om> uMeeKs: MBR, 4 partition limit ??
[02:44] <uMeeKs> ys
[02:44] <Donohue> I've looked into possible solutions, but the majority seem applicable to Nvidia cards, and not AMD. I've enabled tear-free, and wait for v-sync, as well as disabled it with no change either way.
[02:45] <spjt> Donohue: What are you using to watch the video, are you watching video files in a program or are you watching them in a browser, what browser, etc
[02:45] <uMeeKs> 1: Warning: /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.
[02:45] <Donohue> spjt, the problem occurs in VLC, and the browser. Tested in Firefox, Opera and Chrome.
[02:45] <cfhowlett> uMeeKs, yep.  ubuntu and gpt don't co-exist without speical care.
[02:45] <cfhowlett> !gpt
[02:45] <noons> Donohue:  I've actually had awful awful luck with AMD video cards in linux so I stopped buying them
[02:46] <noons> from what I've heard things havent gotten much better
[02:46] <Donohue> noons, mine's an APU, so it's integrated - aka, stuck with it for now. The xorg drivers weren't better either.
[02:46] <uMeeKs> uick99
[02:46] <noons> ahh missed that :(
[02:47] <kyfho> usb3 seems crappily supported on centos as is freebsd
[02:47] <kyfho> I wonder if my mobo not ok with usb3 extension card
[02:47] <uMeeKs> so format it GUID ext4 right
[02:47] <Donohue> The plan is to pick up a nvidia card as soon as possible. I'm not a new user by any means, so this issue is odd for me. I'll attempt to upgrade hardware if I can't figure it out, as it DEFINITELY tears a ton running Portal / Portal 2. I've attempted various fixes, and even to disable compositing while fullscreen (forced), but still no change. So I think hardware is the next option unless there's something I'm missing.
[02:48] <spjt> Donohue: fwiw you can try smplayer and test the different output drivers to see if any of them work for you
[02:48] <spjt> Donohue: although that will only help for video files
[02:48] <cfhowlett> uMeeKs, "it" is the HDD?  then yes.
[02:48] <uMeeKs> yes
[02:48] <uMeeKs> gparted worked
[02:48] <Donohue> spjt, thanks, may give that a try. I'm also going to see if I can re-encode and see if its' a codec issue.
[02:49] <Donohue> noons, thanks for the suggestion as well. Any suggestions on a low-mid card, around $100 that has good compat?
[02:51] <cfhowlett> !hcl | Donohue check the list for suggestions
[02:52] <cfhowlett> !ops | -ArcticFox84-
[02:52] <kostkon> Donohue, already tried enabling/disabling vsync?
[02:52] <Donohue> cfhowlett, thanks for that.
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Donohue, happy2help
[02:52] <phunyguy> cfhowlett: sup?
[02:52] <kostkon> Donohue, in the game's options and/or graphics driver
[02:52] <Donohue> kostkon, yup. tested both ways, on both the free driver, nonfree and updates
[02:52] <cfhowlett> arcticfox84 - profanity and insults
[02:52] <kostkon> Donohue, ok
[02:52] <phunyguy> ...where?
[02:53] <Donohue> kostkon, I had to first lock GL or something (can't remmeber) and it solved the lag between mouse movement and screen movement, but the tearing was still present. Thanks anyway, I'm going to consider new hardware
[02:53] <Donohue> As it's integrated anyway.
[02:53] <cfhowlett> -ArcticFox84-       huh.  must be seen by me only?  but it's here on main channel, not a pm.
[02:53] <Donohue> I've been seeing it as well.
[02:53] <phunyguy> cfhowlett: was probably a /notify
[02:53] <phunyguy> which is channel agnostic
[02:53] <Donohue> phunyguy, no, it's been in the channel.
[02:53] <kostkon> Donohue, np
[02:54] <phunyguy> hmm...
[02:54] <Donohue> Want me to copy and paste in a PM/
[02:54] <phunyguy> sure
[02:54] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, yeah, I guess so.  His bunkmate buddy -serdot- just joined in the fun
[02:54] <Donohue> phunyguy, nope, was notifies.
[02:54] <phunyguy> thought so.
[02:54] <Donohue> I'll just ignore.
[02:55] <cfhowlett> Donohue, some here.  thanks phunyguy
[02:55] <phunyguy> np.
[02:55] <phunyguy> cfhowlett: are you seeing it in other channel buffers
[02:55] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, buffers?  I'm only seeing it on this channel.
[02:55] <noons> Donohue: as long as you don't mind running proprietary drivers any nivdia card should work nicely. They have 640s/50's for ~80 USD
[02:56] <Donohue> He's not present in the channel. He's notifying from a different nic.
[02:56] <phunyguy> yep.... not much we can do about that
[02:56] <Donohue> But he's obviously reading, as his insults are specific to what we're writing
[02:56] <Donohue> just ignore his host, cfhowlett
[02:56] <cfhowlett> Donohue, clever scriptkitty
[02:56] <phunyguy> probably a puppet in the channel
[02:57] <noons> I've ripped my hair out dealing with AMD's and unfortunately althought they make some nice cards I refuse to buy them for the very issues you have
[02:57] <Donohue> I'm pretty committed to the switch this time around, as the OS has definitely progressed since 12.04, my last real go-around.
[02:57] <noons> errr I should proof-read what I type
[02:58] <Donohue> On desktop, I should say. Have been admining VPS's on and off in between. Anyway, thanks a lot all.
[02:58] <cfhowlett> noons, I believe that nvidia has far  better support than amd
[02:59] <noons> yea such a shame
[03:00] <josh__> hi guys i need helpp understanding the syntax to covert my img file (from a hdd) to a vdi format http://superuser.com/questions/554862/how-to-convert-img-to-usable-virtualbox-format
 the path of my source file is /home/josh/backup/grandmapc.img. The destination would be another drive (which I need to go buy - probably internal at at least two terabytes, thoughts - maybe hitachi? WD http://lifehacker.com/the-most-and-least-reliable-hard-drive-brands-1505797966
[03:03] <awktion> hey
[03:03] <josh__> awktion, Hey :)
[03:03] <josh__> any ideas?
[03:04] <awktion> ults10.04 - lvm2 installed, dm-mod wont modprobe on livecd
[03:04] <awktion> what other modules feed lvm?
[03:08] <samthewildone> !remote
[03:08] <samthewildone> !remotedesktop
[03:08] <samthewildone> !remotesharing
[03:08] <samthewildone> !vnc
[03:10] <awktion> !lvm2
[03:10] <awktion> !lvm
[03:10] <awktion> lame
[03:11] <phunyguy> ?
[03:11] <phunyguy> !msgthebot
[03:15] <convidado_> hi guys
[03:15] <cfhowlett> convidado_, ask your ubuntu questions
[03:15] <phunyguy> settle down.
[03:16] <kittles> any ubuntu meetup groups?
[03:16] <cfhowlett> kittles, perhaps your ubuntu "loco" or linux user groups.
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !loco | kittles,
[03:16] <convidado_> i'm testing my pc
[03:17] <kittles> thanks guys
[03:17] <cfhowlett> kittles, happy2help
[03:17] <phunyguy> convidado_: then please take the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:23] <kittles> how to change channels?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> kittles, /join #channelnamehere
[03:24] <y3gang> what client do you use
[03:24] <kittles> x chat irc
[03:24] <erikk> Hah. I actually just downloaded my first irc client
[03:24] <erikk> It is Irssi
[03:24] <y3gang> hmmm
[03:24] <delinquentme> Nautilus is the file browins util right? I used to have 1/4th of the window showing a system overview ... now its gone ... how do I get this back?
[03:24] <y3gang> I like weechat
[03:24] <phunyguy> !ot
[03:24] <kittles> i am using xfce desktop
[03:25] <phunyguy> -qo *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.28.53.146 phunyguy
[03:26] <kittles> i tried to join ubuntu-offtopic - nothing happened
[03:26] <noons> l
[03:27] <phunyguy> whoops :)
[03:27] <phunyguy> I'm a stupid op... tempt me more.
[03:28] <phunyguy> gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.28.53.146 ?
[03:28] <phunyguy> got it.
[03:28] <phunyguy> thanks,
[03:37] <ompal99> command to know remote machine is VM or Physical
[03:39] <incog> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc4_2eMEW34 The l0de radio hour is now online! Tonight's episode: Punks jump up to get beat down! Call in live at 844-221-5033
[03:39] <cfhowlett> incog, no spam.  not welcome.  thanks.
[03:40] <phunyguy> yeah let's not respond to that anymore.
[03:40] <phunyguy> (all they can do is notify.  pff)
[03:42] <UBUXUBU> Question: I just helped a friend install ubuntu 14.04, she likes it and its running well, but unlike my ubuntu 14.04...hers will not burn a dvd right outta the box, like mine always have? can someone tell us how to configure ubuntu to burn dvd...and why it its not doing it by default like it always has?
[03:42] <UBUXUBU> "doesnt recognize the disk"
[03:43] <Basketball> i installed pamusb and it screwed up my password so i cant use sudo with usb and my password doesnt work how can i fix this
[03:43] <UBUXUBU> so we took the same disk and stuffed into her host machine (doze) and it burned?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, whae for USB?t ubuntu tool did you us
[03:45] <UBUXUBU> she was using k3b then tried brasero
[03:46] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, and the very same ISO worked on a  different machine?
[03:46] <UBUXUBU> she tried both cfhowlett then to make sure the dvd was ok she used the same disk in doze and it burned cfhowlett
[03:46] <UBUXUBU> and yes to ur question cfhowlett
[03:47] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, brasero is usually pretty much idiot proof in my experience.  Could the drive be failing/have failed/need cleaning?
[03:47] <UBUXUBU> no becasue the same drive is the drive on the host machine which has DOZE and we took the same blank dvd and put in back in the samde dvd drive BUT in DOZE and it burned the same iso
[03:48] <samthewildone> would the actions of deleting .local in user dir reset all my settings ?
[03:49] <cfhowlett> samthewildone, it will reset all that user's settings but not global settings
[03:49] <UBUXUBU> why wont brasero burn a dvd
[03:49] <samthewildone> I just wanna reset my user settings.
[03:49] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, suggestion:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:49] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, fully update then attempt to burn another dvd
[03:50] <UBUXUBU> its a frsh ubuntu 14 04 install with updates but ok will try?
[03:50] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, current ubuntu is 14.04.1
[03:50] <ompal99> command to know remote machine is VM or Physical
[03:50] <UBUXUBU> she also installes the ubuntu ectras too
[03:51] <cfhowlett> ompal99, ask in #ubuntu-server or ##linux              I'd also be interested in knowing.
[03:51] <ompal99> ok
[03:52] <Basketball> cfhowlett, do you know?
[03:52] <cfhowlett> Basketball, know ... what?
[03:52] <Basketball> i installed pamusb and it screwed up my password so i cant use sudo with usb and my password doesnt work how can i fix this
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Basketball, ah.  I saw that.   never used pamusb and don't know the answer.
[03:53] <Basketball> cfhowlett, is there a way to reset password
[03:53] <Basketball> with knowing the pass
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !password | Basketball best link I know ...
[03:54] <UBUXUBU> we just got this ubuntu ??? wouldnt we have 14 04 1 now???
[03:56] <UBUXUBU> wow i just did this install and it says i have 14 04
[03:56] <UBUXUBU> now i gotta do 14041
[03:56] <samthewildone> brb
[03:56] <erikk> I had option of downloading Gnome point release if I wanted
[03:56] <UBUXUBU> she did updates and it says no disk available cfhowlett
[03:57] <UBUXUBU> frustrating
[03:57] <Bashing-om> UBUXUBU: -> suso apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >>> 14.04.1 .
[03:57] <morrna> I just ran chkrootkit and it found an infection in /sbin/init. Does anyone know how to follow up on this?
[03:57] <Bashing-om> suso/sudo*
[03:57] <UBUXUBU> is 1404 1 LTS??
[03:57] <rww> yes
[03:57] <usr13> omlet: cfhowlett I was curious too.  Looks like maybe  dmesg |grep VMware
[03:57] <Basketball> anyone here know bash script
[03:58] <morrna> I'm running 14.04
[03:58] <philotue> hi
[03:58] <UBUXUBU> we want LTS
[03:58] <UBUXUBU> those in betweeen ones are almost always a headache
[03:58] <UBUXUBU> is .1 LTS?
[03:58] <rww> yes
[03:59] <UBUXUBU> ok she will try now thatnks
[03:59] <usr13> UBUXUBU: 10.04 12.04 14.04 etc...
[03:59] <UBUXUBU> never heard of this .1 stuff
[03:59] <usr13> UBUXUBU: .1 just refers to point release
[03:59] <UBUXUBU> well ok ima have here try it right now thanks
[03:59] <UBUXUBU> her*
[04:00] <usr13> UBUXUBU: .1 .2 .3 .4
[04:00] <philotue> i could need some help with creating a starter-icon for skype on ubuntu 10.04. with the propper command in the terminal i can get skype to run, but creating a starter doesnt work. anyone?
[04:00] <UBUXUBU> i wonder if i should do .1 too i like my 1404 as is
[04:01] <UBUXUBU> this is for a friend the questions i ask though
[04:01] <rww> if you run updates properly, it already is.
[04:01] <usr13> philotue: It's just like any other autostart, (but I don't think skype does auto-login anymore.
[04:01] <UBUXUBU> mine says 1404 in system
[04:01] <UBUXUBU> so should i do updates in terminal
[04:02] <UBUXUBU> often wonderwhat is the proper way too update
[04:02] <philotue> usr13: the problem is: when i create the starter, i get an error messag (path or file not found) while the same command works in the terminal
[04:02] <UBUXUBU> software center...terminal...synaptics?
[04:02] <usr13> philotue: In unity,, just type startup, (you'll get Startup Applications).
[04:02] <usr13> philotue: What command?
[04:03] <philotue> usr13: i'm on 10.04 with gnome. command ist: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/alex/skype-4.3.0.37/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH /home/alex/skype-4.3.0.37/skype
[04:03] <rww> 10.04 Desktop hasn't been supported since 2013.
[04:03] <usr13> philotue: You did not install skype via the package manager?
[04:04] <usr13> philotue: Or did you...?
[04:04] <bootRepair> I have a question about clonezilla
[04:04] <usr13> bootRepair: This is #ubuntu
[04:04] <philotue> usr13: of course, but it stopped working. there is a workaround on the skype hp i followed. it includes typing the whole command into the terminal every time i want to start skype. so i'd like to create a starter-icon to click
[04:04] <bootRepair> I used expert option to clone with -r -k1 but now the drive layout is strange
[04:05] <bootRepair> usr13: i'm running ubuntu
[04:05] <usr13> philotue: which skype  #What does that say?
[04:05] <UBUXUBU> ha even during the updates she sees it saying " unknown media type"
[04:05] <usr13> !ask | bootRepair
[04:05] <philotue> usr13: apt-get only gets me skype 4.0, but it's not longer supportet. so i had to download and install 4.3 manually
[04:06] <rww> Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop isn't supported either.
[04:06] <usr13> philotue: What version of Ubuntu?
[04:06] <philotue> usr13: 10.04
[04:06] <bootRepair> I had a 640GB drive that had about ~150GB left. So I cloned to 1tb drive using -r/-k1 options so it uses the whole drive.
[04:06] <usr13> philotue: Server?
[04:06] <rww> usr13: It's running GNOME and Skype, so no.
[04:06] <UBUXUBU> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >>> 14.04.1 .              9is this the EXACT command?? with the arrows and all?
[04:06] <rww> the 5 year support is on a packageset, regardless of which CD one used to install.
[04:06] <bootRepair> Now it has taken that 1TB drive used 807GB and left 114Gb as free space. Which is very strange
[04:06] <philotue> usr13: 10.04 LTS
[04:06] <rww> gnome, unsurprisingly, is not in the server packageset
[04:07] <bootRepair> because left storage should be around 400Gb
[04:07] <svetlana> How do I remove systemd? It complains that xubuntu-desktop depends on it. http://dpaste.com/0GSTX07#wrap
[04:07] <usr13> philotue: 10.04 has been EOL since May 9, 2013
[04:07] <UBUXUBU> please type in the exact terminal command to get the distro upgrade
[04:07] <usr13> philotue: So upgrade to 12.04 :)
[04:08] <philotue> usr13: the thing is: i now have a working version of skype running on this machine, i'm just not able to make a starter icon for the terminal command
[04:08] <Bashing-om> UBUXUBU: Not with the arrows .. only punctuation . -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to install any new kernels on the current 14.04 install.
[04:08] <svetlana> UBUXUBU, «sudo apt-get dist-upgrade»
[04:08] <rww> svetlana: You don't have systemd installed, you have a variety of library packages shipped by systemd that various Xubuntu packages use, and a shim written by Canonical that implements some systemd API.
[04:08] <usr13> philotue: Your operating system has reached End Of Life.  Why do you not upgrade to 12.04?
[04:08] <svetlana> rww, how do I remove all that? Until today, thought I'm using 'upstart'.
[04:09] <rww> svetlana: You are using upstart. You are not using systemd. Assuming you want to continue to run a normal desktop environment, you leave things as they are.
[04:09] <UBUXUBU> ok she got the dist upgrade
[04:09] <svetlana> rww, more on the 'xy problem': during boot I see some messages about it starting packages I removed a long time ago. I would like to clean up the list of what gets run during boot.
[04:10] <philotue> usr13: i will but can't right now because i'm writing my masters thesis and neither have time nor nerves to set up everything again, or to risk loosing functionality by upgrading.
[04:10] <usr13> philotue: http://ubottu.com/y/lucid
[04:10] <UBUXUBU> lets see if it will burn a dammm dvd now thanks all
[04:10] <svetlana> rww, ideally without having to clean that list by hand.
[04:10] <rww> philotue: when you get around to upgrading, your system will be supported in #ubuntu. Until then, it is not.
[04:10] <rww> svetlana: I have very little upstart knowledge, so I'll leave that to someone who does.
[04:10] <svetlana> all: during boot I see some messages about it starting packages I removed a long time ago. I would like to clean up the list of what gets run during boot.
[04:11] <UBUXUBU> thanks all
[04:11] <usr13> philotue: The fact is that we don't know.  (We have not run into that problem because virtually none of us are running 10.04 because it is EOL.
[04:12] <philotue> ok, so i will use the terminal to start skype till i update everything
[04:13] <philotue> thanks everyone
[04:13] <usr13> philotue: So you are in un-charted territory.  But the good news is that upgrading to 12.04 is easy and barring a power failure, or a hard drive that is completely full, there is almost no risk.  Still, though, it is a very good idea to backup /home/
[04:13] <svetlana> philotue: PM.
[04:14] <usr13> philotue: I fail to see how an autostart for skype is all that important.  Just lay a script on your desktop and click it.
[04:16] <philotue> usr13: i don't need an autostart, but laying the script on the desktop gives an error message when i click it
[04:16] <usr13> philotue: Actually, if you put a properly formatted sctipt in $HOME/bin should do the trick.  Just point the Startup to it.
[04:16] <usr13> philotue: pastebinit
[04:18] <usr13> philotue: Place the script in $HOME/bin and chmod +x it
[04:18] <usr13> philotue: Then you can symlink it.  Or just chmod +x the one you have.
[04:19] <UBUXUBU> ubuntu even with 1404 1 upgrade still cannot see her dvd drive thus will not let her burn a dvd?
[04:19] <svetlana> check dmesg for when you put in the dvd
[04:19] <UBUXUBU> what is that svetlana
[04:19] <svetlana> logs
[04:20] <UBUXUBU> ru giving a suggestion?
[04:20] <UBUXUBU> im all ears
[04:20] <UBUXUBU> what is dmesg how do we do it
[04:20] <svetlana> yep, I'm suggesting to check logs: take out the dvd, put it in, run «dmesg», see if it has anything interesting
[04:20] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, insert DVD            then open terminal              cat dmesg                 to read the logs
[04:20] <UBUXUBU> so run a command  calle dmesg in the terminal?
[04:20] <svetlana> yes
[04:21] <UBUXUBU> ok one moment
[04:21] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, doh!  NOT cat dmesg.    just    dmesg
[04:21] <rww> damn, i was about to add to the list
[04:21] <UBUXUBU> ok ill wait
[04:21] <UBUXUBU> what up
[04:21] <cfhowlett> rww, please do.
[04:21] <svetlana> UBUXUBU: "what up"?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, the last few entries of your LONG dmesg feedback should reference your dvd issue
[04:21] <UBUXUBU> ok so open terminal and run command     dmesg     right?
[04:22] <svetlana> yes
[04:22] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, yes
[04:22] <UBUXUBU> do i do it like    sudo dmesg
[04:22] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, dmesg
[04:22] <UBUXUBU> ok just that ok
[04:22] <openbox> hello everyone
[04:22] <UBUXUBU> one moment
[04:22] <usr13> UBUXUBU: In ubuntu, dmesg does not require super user
[04:22] <UBUXUBU> ok thanks one sec
[04:23] <cfhowlett> openbox, hey.  ask your ubuntu questions
[04:23] <openbox> umm can it be a slightly fedora related question
[04:23] <openbox> im basically trying to install openbox on fedora
[04:23] <cfhowlett> openbox, #fedora          would be the place to ask
[04:23] <philotue> got it!
[04:23] <openbox> whaT if i would try to install openbox on unbuntu
[04:23] <svetlana> yeah, it can be a little fedora related but when it's related to how they package things then I don't think folks would know here :-)
[04:23] <openbox> would that work ?
[04:24] <philotue> thanks usr13 and svetlana !
[04:24] <svetlana> yes
[04:24] <usr13> philotue: Ok good.
[04:24] <UBUXUBU> says system host name is not installed
[04:24] <UBUXUBU> omg what is that
[04:24] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, relax.
[04:24] <openbox> has anyone here ever used openbox
[04:24] <UBUXUBU> bizarre
[04:25] <UBUXUBU> maybe cuz we use a VM?
[04:25] <cfhowlett> openbox, yes.  but FEDORA is not an ubuntu distro and so is not supported here.  ask fedora.
[04:25] <UBUXUBU> i use buntu in VM and it burns dvd no issue ever
[04:25] <openbox> ok help me install openbox ?
[04:25] <cfhowlett> openbox, not on fedora.
[04:25] <usr13> openbox: Really?
[04:26] <Basketball> cfhowlett, do you know bash script
[04:26] <usr13> openbox: (Ubuntu is not an rpm based distro.)
[04:26] <cfhowlett> Basketball, no.  #bash         or ##bash would be the channels you want
[04:26] <Basketball> cfhowlett,  they muted me for asking a question
[04:26] <UBUXUBU> i think her AMD cpu and ubuntu and a VM dont mix ... cant handle basic instructions
[04:26] <cfhowlett> Basketball, well that just seems ... harsh.  wait 1 ...
[04:27] <openbox> so openbox cant be installed on ubuntu ?
[04:27] <usr13> openbox: rpm -i openbox  will probably do it but if you join the fedora channel, they can give you specific information about fedora
[04:27] <svetlana> openbox, I just told you that it can.
[04:27] <svetlana> openbox: Where is that coming from?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> Basketball, see this list, pretty sure one will work for you.  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[04:28] <usr13> openbox: /join #fedora
[04:32] <UBUXUBU> guess no luck for us
[04:32] <UBUXUBU> ubunutu prolly made no codec for her dvd t o burn
[04:33] <jmcnaught> UBUXUBU: in order for a VM to be able to burn dvds, the virtualization software would need to be configured to let the VM have direct access to the dvd drive. The motherboard would also need support for IOMMU in order to "pass through" a PCI device
[04:33] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, possibly.  do this:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:33] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, oh, wait, the VIRTUAL machines is trying to burn?  doubt that'll work.
[04:36] <UBUXUBU> we already did that thanks cfhowlett
[04:36] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, sorry.  I'm officially out of ideas.
[04:36] <UBUXUBU> ubuntu burn well in my VM all day long
[04:36] <UBUXUBU> ubuntu luvs VM
[04:37] <jmcnaught> UBUXUBU: are you using the same virtualization software on both host computers? On your computer did you have to add your dvd drive to the VM or anything like that?
[04:38] <UBUXUBU> yes both same VM
[04:38] <UBUXUBU> i did not have to add anything
[04:38] <UBUXUBU> just always do restricted extraas to be safe
[04:38] <llucid> Xubuntu 13.04, Any way to get Synapse bleeding edge on it?
[04:38] <UBUXUBU> so im thinking it cuz AMD is summe rthan helll and intel is smart cuz im using an i7 and she had a a6
[04:39] <cfhowlett> llucid, end of life and unsupported?  no.
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !13.04 | llucid
[04:39] <UBUXUBU> looks like AMD cant handle any thing other than ordinary instructions
[04:39] <llucid> I understand...somewhat. Do you know what Unsupported implies entirely?
[04:39] <UBUXUBU> which doesnt shock me
[04:39] <jmcnaught> UBUXUBU: it could be that your motherboard has Intel VT-d (the Intel equivalent to AMD's IOMMU) while her computer lacks that feature
[04:39] <Metacity> llucid: No updates, no support, no security fixes.
[04:40] <llucid> Even unsupported I find it hard to believe I cannot get Synapse on it.
[04:40] <UBUXUBU> yeah her a6 is prolly somewhat basic compared to mine and prolly mobo too
[04:40] <UBUXUBU> even so should work
[04:40] <UBUXUBU> this aint rocket science
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> llucid: install a safe version from topic
[04:40] <UBUXUBU> someone left out a codec more likely
[04:40] <cfhowlett> llucid, unsupported also "implies" unsupported here as well.  install a supported version and then ask for assistance.
[04:41] <UBUXUBU> i did notice even in mine system kubuntu cannot burn a dvd while in a VM
[04:41] <cfhowlett> UBUXUBU, virtual machines are not 100% perfect in their implementation.
[04:41] <UBUXUBU> so its when the team doesnt put the software in there
[04:41] <Shadow}}> I have Ubuntu 14.04 on another Drive I update each day. I prefer this one for Youtube AMV stuff, As it can change speeds of video streaming on YT.
[04:41] <jmcnaught> UBUXUBU: VT-d/IOMMU is a fairly new feature on motherboards (it's not a CPU feature), and a lot simply don't come with the support.
[04:42] <UBUXUBU> yeah maybe
[04:42] <UBUXUBU> mine 17 4770 and it does all this stuff no issue by default
[04:42] <Jadz1a> Hi everyone. On a system with Ubuntu 10 (where Gnome is the Desktop environment), how can one upgrade software? On my system there is Firefox 3 installed, but I want to upgrade Firefox. But in the Ubuntu Software Manager there is only the option to install/remove packages, not to upgrade packages.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Shadow}}: we really recommend 14.04 on all machines
[04:42] <UBUXUBU> 1st real issue ive seen in 1404
[04:42] <rww> Jadz1a: Ubuntu 10.x Desktop has not been supported since 2013. Upgrade to a current version of Ubuntu.
[04:42] <cfhowlett> Jadz1a, 10.* is no longer supported.  install 14.04
[04:42] <rww> !eol | Jadz1a
[04:43] <Shadow}}> My real question is what makes this OS (Xubuntu 13.04) completely...Isolated per se? Is that both ways? Meaning, In a way I'm safer browsing the internet on here than there(Ubuntu 14.04)?
[04:43] <svetlana> Shadow}}, hi. Please define "isolated" here.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Shadow}}, browsing the internet from an OS that doesn't received security updates?  unwise.
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Shadow}}: if 13.04 doesnt get any updates, you cant be safer
[04:44] <jmcnaught> UBUXUBU: it's not a CPU feature, it's a motherboard chipset feature. Without it VMs cannot access PCI devices directly (and they are simply emulated instead). USB devices on the other hand can be shared with VMs on computers lacking VT-d/IOMMU. So you could probably burn an ISO to a USB dvd drive from a VM
[04:44] <Shadow}}> Well. Its "end of the line" as the term goes,no? This makes it isolated from upgrading including from non trusted sources.
[04:44] <Jadz1a> thanks all for your answers! Does eol mean that there are no updates available for the packages anymore, but before the eol updates were possible?
[04:45] <svetlana> Shadow}}: Does 13.04 receive security updates? — An answer to this question doesn't depend on the flavor. It being Xubuntu or Ubuntu shouldn't matter.
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Shadow}}: just be smart, 13.04 was real solid and 14.04 has even become better, move along
[04:45] <Shadow}}> I am merely curious if that works both ways; As in... If I can't access my updating, Neither can a hacker without manually doing so?
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Shadow}}, you have no security updates.  you are vulnerable
[04:46] <Shadow}}> Enough higher talking... I already said I have Ubuntu 14.04, I prefer this one for other reasons.
[04:47] <Jadz1a> In other words, are software-updates disabled after End-of-life?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Shadow}}: then malicious users will prefer your outdated machine also
[04:47] <svetlana> Shadow}}: I'm not talking highly. I'm answering your question.
[04:47] <Metacity> Jadz1a: They aren't disabled per se, but they do stop.
[04:47] <Shadow}}> cfhowlett, Some reason I disagree... Everyone keeps saying I can't install Synapse bleeding edge, If so... I'm far less vulnerable. svetlana I meant the ones telling to "upgrade".
[04:47] <svetlana> Jadz1a, lotuspsychje: I think the folk already got that point. Let's wait for their next question and reply accordingly.
[04:49]  * Shadow}} shrugs "I suppose I got the answers I expected, Thank you all. Sincerely.
[04:49] <svetlana> Shadow}}: You can install Synapse at any OS you feel suitable, but I don't see the reasoning behind "so I'm far less vulnerable" point.
[04:49] <Jadz1a> Metacity, just for curiosity, what was the common way in ubuntu 10 to update software packages, also using the software manager (because I coudnt see there any update-option)?
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> howcome CUPS doesnt show in startup items to disable?
[04:51] <Basketball> hey is Insync in a ppa
[04:53] <izarry> Hi guys can anyone guide me what ubuntu server version should i use? i am new here >.<
[04:53] <cfhowlett> izarry, 14.04.1
[04:53] <rww> the latest one
[04:53] <Metacity> Jadz1a: I never used 10.04, but I believe the Update Manager is/was the preferred method.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !server | izarry
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !server | izarry,
[04:54] <Jadz1a> Metacity, in the applications menu I only was able to find the software manager, but no update manager. Do you have any idea where to find it?
[04:55] <izarry> Thanks guys , ^_^
[04:56] <Jadz1a> Metacity, I think it is in the administrations menu. Thanks for your help!
[04:56] <Metacity> Jadz1a: No problem. :)
[04:56] <Metacity> Jadz1a: And definitely upgrade to 14.04 ASAP!
[04:56] <Jadz1a> Metacity, I will :-)
[04:59] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I make a directory rw for everyone in a group?
[04:59] <svetlana> chmod g+rw
[04:59] <svetlana> and make sure it's also owned by the correct group
[05:01] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, ok, so if the group is "ftp", what would the command be?
[05:02] <svetlana> Jeeves_Moss, chgrp ftp dir; chmod g+rw dir
[05:02] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, nope.  still premission denied on the FTP
[05:02] <svetlana> check permissions of the files within the directory, and of its parent directories
[05:04] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, it's a totally new directoy
[05:04] <svetlana> that's irrelevant
[05:04] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, command?  (sorry, it's 1am here, and I've been mindless)
[05:05] <svetlana> command to view permissions? ls -la
[05:05] <Moon_Doggy> how can i force video output to external monitor, im using xbmcbuntu so its running in a shell, i have ssh access
[05:07] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, apparently, it's owned by proftpd:pft (correct group)
[05:08] <svetlana> "it"?
[05:09] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, the ftp root folder
[05:10] <svetlana> and why are you not looking at its parent directories and the files within it?
[05:10] <svetlana> like what I suggested
[05:10] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, the root of that folder is owned by root:root
[05:10] <svetlana> thats probably a problem
[05:11] <svetlana> if foo/ is owned by root and foo/bar is owned by ftp, then ftp won't be able to get in
[05:11] <rww> chmod o+x /folder should fix it.
[05:12] <Jeeves_Moss> thanks.
[05:13] <Jeeves_Moss> that did it!  thanks!
[05:14] <matty_r> Could someone help me out troubleshooting my Wifi connection?
[05:14] <svetlana> only if you ask
[05:14] <matty_r> Yea, typing up now :)
[05:16] <matty_r> It's BCM4314 and consistently drops out sometimes every 30 mins, sometimes sooner. I'm running kernal version 3.14 on Ubuntu 14.04.
[05:16] <matty_r> I'm currently using brcmsmac drivers
[05:20] <matty_r> 0a:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
[05:22] <matty_r> When it drops out it will ask for the password to the wifi again, sometimes it'll ask three times
[05:23] <reversiblean> How do enable different framebuffer driver in grub2 other than the default vesafb driver?
[05:23] <Jeeves_Moss> svetlana, looks like new users can't control their directories!  LOL
[05:25] <svetlana> see umask
[05:28] <FreewheelinFrank> is it possible to enlarge /boot? the partition is too small for updates
[05:28] <klync> guys, I applied some updates and /dev/dm-* are now missing. vgscan finds nothing
[05:29] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, unnecessary
[05:29] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, 100 mb is more than adequate.  why do you think you need to enlarge?
[05:29] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: Every time I attemp a system update it says /boot is too small
[05:30] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, when did you last clean out old kernels?
[05:30] <klync> `parted /dev/sdb print` shows "unrecognized disk label"
[05:31] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: I deleted all of them a while ago, manually, but now the directory appears to just have efi and grub directories
[05:31] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: the system updates do appear to be much larger than 100 mb!
[05:31] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, run this:  dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[05:33] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, spring cleaning:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove                                first removes no downloaded packages from prior updates, second remove old kernels.  it'll keep current kernel +1 old
[05:33] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: ok
[05:34] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: 1,129 mb freed
[05:34] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:35] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: will do, its still running the clean...
[05:36] <erikk> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome. Why does volume on my headset go to 0 if the volume on the panel is listed at anywhere below something like 40%?
[05:36] <erikk> Seems to scale fine with anything above this seemingly artificial / arbitrary minimum
[05:39] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: thanks, have saved those commands, not the first time I've had to ask for help!
[05:39] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, happy2help.  fixed your issue?
[05:40] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: still downloading packages...I usually do the update in GUI
[05:42] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: restarting
[05:45] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: yep that did it! Now if only I could get rid of the ubuntu one reminders...wont uninstall
[05:47] <cfhowlett> FreewheelinFrank, sorry, can't help with that one.  don't remember exactly how I fixed it
[05:48] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: its still telling me the service will end in June. Maybe I'
[05:48] <awktion> btw good job guys, you didnt even manage to answer a simple q lol
[05:48] <FreewheelinFrank> cfhowlett: I'll just wait until it starts up again
[05:48]  * awktion -> lurk
[06:08] <matty_r> Sorry, my wifi dropped if there were any responses
[06:22] <farbod> hi
[06:23] <farbod> i want a Proxy for filterings
[06:23] <farbod> :(
[06:23] <farbod> something like Tor
[06:24] <farbod> anyone is there?
[06:24] <awktion> proxy like tor?
[06:24] <awktion> !tor
[06:24] <awktion> !vidalia
[06:25] <awktion> https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian-vidalia.html.en #tor
[06:25] <awktion> farbod: ^^
[06:25]  * awktion -> afk
[06:25] <farbod> awktion:i cant go tor project because its filter in Iran
[06:25] <david__> yo
[06:25] <farbod> i want some thing to break filterings :)
[06:26] <farbod> ?
[06:27] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what is this I hear about an ubuntu developers edition?
[06:27] <farbod> anyone?
[06:28] <shido6> ?
[06:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, hey just got here
[06:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> did you have a question?
[06:28] <farbod> yes i ask it
[06:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> again
[06:28] <farbod> want some thing to break filterings :)
[06:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> just got here
[06:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what is a filterings?
[06:29] <TheMesquito> Akiva-Thinkpad: <farbod> awktion:i cant go tor project because its filter in Iran <farbod> i want some thing to break filterings :)
[06:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> TheMesquito, ah thanks
[06:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ;)
[06:29] <farbod> in Iran facebook is filter and we cant go there without a filter breaker
[06:29] <TheMesquito> \o/
[06:30] <lnoskhen> Hello. My Ubuntu 14.04 stuck at splash screen (welcome screen)? How to know whats going on from background? I'm new to ubuntu.
[06:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, good question...
[06:30] <jorge2> does empathy have an off the record messaging plugin?
[06:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, what is iran's native language?
[06:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> arabic or pharsee?
[06:31] <farbod> Persian
[06:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !persian
[06:31] <farbod> and its Farsi not pharsee
[06:31] <farbod> :)
[06:32] <farbod> please help me
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !farsi
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, the reason I suggest this channel
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is because there is a good chance other iranian ubuntu users are in your situation
[06:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and found a good solution
[06:33] <lnoskhen> [14:32] (lnoskhen) Hello. My Ubuntu 14.04 stuck at splash screen (welcome screen)? How to know whats going on from background? I'm new to ubuntu. Anyone?
[06:33] <farbod> Akiva-Thinkpad: #ubuntu-ir is off now
[06:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, yah not too busy
[06:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sec
[06:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> i'm looking up another solution
[06:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, btw; stick around in ubuntu-ir, so it will eventually attract more people.
[06:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod http://askubuntu.com/questions/357240/i-need-a-good-solution-to-bypass-internet-censorship-on-ubuntu
[06:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, http://askubuntu.com/questions/195952/how-to-access-blocked-sites
[06:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, hopefully one of those solutions will do. Good luck
[06:36] <farbod> Akiva-Thinkpad:yessss,its realy my problem
[06:36] <farbod> Akiva-Thinkpad:thank you very much
[06:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> farbod, no problem
[06:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :)
[06:38] <crawln> Akiva-Thinkpad, you  use empathy at all
[06:38] <jorge2> does empathy have an off the record messaging plugin?
[06:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, not often, although I'd like to
[06:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> why?
[06:38] <vijai_> hello
[06:39] <crawln> having an issue with being able to clear the message log on the taskbar mail icon
[06:39] <vijai_> can somebody help me with rt3290 drivers for ubuntu 14.04?
[06:39] <crawln> theres about 10 and they are all the same one lol
[06:39] <dennis_> 2014
[06:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, ah interesting. definitely worth a bug report
[06:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sec
[06:40] <crawln> empathy is nothing but a bug
[06:40] <crawln> I just want the damn icon and messages to go away
[06:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, I know what you mean; its horrid for irc :P
[06:40] <Navbor> I need some advice loggin into ubuntu forums. Am I in the correct channel and if so can anyone assist?
[06:40] <jorge2> does empathy have an off the record messaging plugin?
[06:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, do you use it for facebook and other such things?
[06:41] <crawln> well i was playing with it now i can't get it to remove it self from that mail icon lmao
[06:41] <crawln> don't think so jorge2
[06:41] <vijai_> anybody?
[06:41] <crawln> vijai_, what's it not doing
[06:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vijai_, rt3290 drivers??
[06:41] <hamdoun> hi
[06:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is that a wifi thing?
[06:42] <vijai_> yes
[06:42] <vijai_> ralink rt3290
[06:42] <crawln> yeah it's wifi
[06:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vijai_, usually you don't need to install drivers; should work out of the box
[06:42] <Navbor> I need some advice loggin into ubuntu forums. Am I in the correct channel and if so can anyone assist?
[06:42] <crawln> 3290 there is a dirver out there that works for it
[06:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, sort of
[06:43] <xangua> jorge2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy_%28software%29#Security_issues
[06:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, #ubuntuforums has actual mods in it, which are actually very helpful
[06:43] <crawln> you've had to manually install the 3290 for ever
[06:43] <vijai_> Akiva: there is a known issue with 3290 and asus x550 notebooks
[06:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I had trouble logging in too; whats your issue?
[06:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vijai_, okay fair enough
[06:43] <Navbor> So wrong channel then?
[06:43] <vijai_> crawln: I tried compiling my own. But make failed to compile :/
[06:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !ask
[06:43] <crawln> vijai_, did you try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/455030/ralink-rt3290-wifi-driver-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04
[06:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, ask away
[06:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> worst case scenario you will be sent to #ubuntuforums :P
[06:45] <Navbor> OK, I had an SSO account, but somehow I can no longer login. I created a new one, and now when I use SSO login, it takes me to the redicrect screen (heading for the forums), with the correct user nam, but once in the forums,. I cannot post anything. I cannot find the new post button, and the top of the screen still says "HELLO UNREGISTERED"...?
[06:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, so you log in, and then you get logged out right away?
[06:46] <Navbor> It seems that way.
[06:46] <Beldar> Navbor, Ubuntu Forums?
[06:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, Same issue. Are you on public wifi?
[06:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I had the same issue*
[06:46] <Navbor> Nope, I have a secure wif connection,.
[06:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, try this; when you log in, and it asks for permission to use your real name, just switch it to what you currently have set
[06:47] <Navbor> OK will try
[06:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and it will usually at least for me, let you stay logged in for about a minute or two :P
[06:48] <crawln> steam needs better games for linux systems
[06:48] <Navbor> I treid now, but it does not ask for permission, it just gets used.
[06:48] <Loshki> Akiva-Thinkpad: SSO? Single Sign On?
[06:49] <Navbor> I think so
[06:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> yep
[06:49] <crawln> the SSO has never really worked well
[06:49] <vijai_> crawln: No. I havent
[06:49] <Navbor> What's the alternative?
[06:49] <vijai_> will try now :)
[06:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, try pluggining into ethernet, see if that works
[06:49] <Loshki> Sorry to derail, but who manages SSO. Is that a ubuntu app? I thought it was a microsoft thing?
[06:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> otherwise, head to #ubuntuforums, they may have more up to date info than I
[06:50] <Navbor> Akiva, I would, but I cannot post since I cannot login.
[06:50] <crawln> SSO is an acronym. Nothing more
[06:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Loshki, think its canonical;
[06:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, yes, but try logging in while plugged to ethernet
[06:50]  * crawln ^
[06:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, the reason is because  as I understand, wifi changes the addresses or something, and causes a log out
[06:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'm not a network guy
[06:51] <crawln> wifi never changes the address of anything.
[06:52] <crawln> it's just bad scripting on the internal part
[06:52] <Navbor> OK, maybe I need a bit more explanation. I am connected to the router via ethernet. The connection on the router is a secure one. Sorry I misunderstood the question earlier. I have an ethernet connected directly to a Centos server which manages all the security etc, and the Centos is inturn connceted to the router via ethernet.
[06:52] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, don't complain to me :S
[06:52] <crawln> Oh i'm not complaining
[06:52] <crawln> just stating a fact. they didn't think the session loggin through enough on their part.
[06:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, well.... considering what happened before
[06:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> with the forum being hacked
[06:53] <crawln> So they go to 1 login to rule them all :P
[06:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> its sort of heads they win, tails we lose.
[06:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, works fine for launchpad :P
[06:54] <crawln> lol
[06:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Navbor, So I failed you ;_;  try #ubuntuforums
[06:55] <Navbor> Akiva, no problem, thanks for trying.
[06:55] <crawln> First thing they'll say is cookies enabled :P
[06:56] <Loshki> I found an SSO wikipedia page. Under unix/linux it says kerberized client applications (wow, is that *still* state-of-the-art?). Is that what Ubuntu uses?
[06:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> The forums have been largely supplanted by AskUbuntu.
[06:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Loshki, good question for #ubuntu-kernel maybe
[06:59] <Loshki> Akiva-Thinkpad: I think I'll do a bit more research before I bother them. I just found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn
[06:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Loshki, maybe you will become a future contributor :)
[06:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> (if you arent contributing now)
[07:00] <crawln> ubuntu is only used until you get comfortable with linux. then it's arch :P
[07:00] <Loshki> Akiva-Thinkpad: :-)
[07:01] <crawln> I'm comfortable. Just lazy..
[07:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, Actually I disagree
[07:01] <Loshki> crawln: yeah. What's so great about arch?
[07:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and the reason is because Unity has features arch lacks
[07:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and Unity on Arch is not a smooth experience.
[07:01] <enchilado> Akiva-Thinkpad
[07:01] <enchilado> Congratulations
[07:02] <crawln> I like the rolling distro
[07:02] <enchilado> You are the first person I have met who likes Unity
[07:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> As a developer, I find a far superior workflow on ubuntu compared to arch.
[07:02] <svetlana> enchilado, <3
[07:02] <crawln> makes getting newer packages that fix things like memory leaks and crap that ubuntu won't update until a new release
[07:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> enchilado, Oh I love it; it maximizes vertical screen realstate
[07:02] <crawln> but also means they break crap alot lmao
[07:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hmmm
[07:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> here, I can show you why I think its superior; let me share a video I made, and you will see my point
[07:03] <Loshki> enchilado: a *developer* who likes Unity. Curiouser and curiouser...
[07:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> http://youtu.be/XEnoX7AB_-M?t=10m30s
[07:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> here, I fast forwarded it to its best feature in action.
[07:04] <crawln> when unity figures out how to put a conky as the background and not use conky as a fake background we be in business lol
[07:05] <xangua> crawln: isn't that because of compiz¿
[07:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, probably you would do it with xwinwrap
[07:05] <crawln> xangua, yeah it's compiz
[07:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> thats what you use to put screensavers as backgrounds
[07:05] <crawln> conky still fun to play with
[07:05] <crawln> lol
[07:07] <crawln> blah i've had just about enough json schema's to last me a lifetime lol
[07:07] <crawln> whoever invented this is the devil.
[07:07]  * crawln yes i know how came up with it.
[07:08] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, want to see something cool?
[07:08] <crawln> sure
[07:09] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, http://i.imgur.com/m9sKenI.png
[07:09] <Akiva-Thinkpad> the new terminal is beautiful
[07:09] <crawln> its in the way
[07:11] <crawln> Akiva-Thinkpad, http://imgur.com/6Xdjrwc
[07:11] <crawln> Akiva-Thinkpad, and it goes out of the way
[07:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> oh I use guake too
[07:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> its very nice
[07:12] <enchilado> Akiva-Thinkpad: the menu search feature looks useful, I suppose, but it seems like something that is not really reliant on the rest of unity
[07:13] <Akiva-Thinkpad> enchilado, You can program it in anything, however the feature exists and is a part of unity
[07:13] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and it is not a part of gnome shell, or kde, or xfce4, or anything else
[07:13] <Akiva-Thinkpad> so for the time being, arch users can talk, but its just ricer syndrome as far as I am concerned
[07:13] <Akiva-Thinkpad> the new gentoo users
[07:14] <crawln> what i don't need is random suggestions on it
[07:14] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, what are you talking about?
[07:14] <crawln> the suggestions filter
[07:14] <crawln> :P
[07:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> which suggestions filter?
[07:15] <kostkon> a bit ot, but there's also cool-old-term if anyone is interested https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
[07:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> the dash or the hud?
[07:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> kostkon, +1
[07:15] <crawln> hud
[07:15] <kostkon> :)
[07:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> crawln, I disagree; this often lets me know what other features are available.
[07:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and sometimes features have similar names and so it lets me know how to filter it better next time.
[07:16] <crawln> type in screen and you get 'yellow screen' 'green screen' 'blue screen' each on is 1.98
[07:16] <crawln> :P
[07:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sometimes what I do, say for example in firefox for bookmarks, or Qt Creator for Macros, I append a tilde (~) to the command, so it makes it easy for me to grab it.
[07:20] <Aikilox> hi guys
[07:20] <Aikilox> dire need of help
[07:20] <cfhowlett> !ask | Aikilox
[07:21] <Aikilox> my wireless connection works, but my etherned connection is disconnected
[07:21] <Aikilox> in windows, it works just fine
[07:23] <Aikilox> ok. thanks ubottu. :)
[07:23] <sergey> привет
[07:23] <cfhowlett> !ru | sergey
[07:27] <Aikilox> anibody?
[07:27] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Aikilox, its a good question
[07:27] <Akiva-Thinkpad> i'm not a network fellow so I can't answer it;
[07:28] <Aikilox> I experienced this problem after I moved recently
[07:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Aikilox, does ethernet work when wireless is disconnected?
[07:28] <Aikilox> no, it does not
[07:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Aikilox, very strange; what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:29] <Aikilox> lubuntu 14.04
[07:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hrmmmm
[07:29] <Aikilox> but this is a general problem. not working in manjaro either
[07:29] <Aikilox> general problem of mine :)
[07:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Aikilox, bad answer, as said I am not expert in this area, but would you mind posting this question on Ask Ubuntu so future users who experience your problem can benefit from it as well?
[07:30] <aukun> hello
[07:30] <aukun> do you can help me?
[07:30] <Aikilox> ok Akiva
[07:32] <aukun> when i put in bash file a conditional  if[ $num < 0 ] then echo "no number" output a error
[07:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> aukun, great question
[07:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> aukun, for this stuff, Ive had great luck at #bash; they tend to be a really nice channel. ##linux is also good. Although if you stick around, I'm sure someone can answer your question.
[07:47] <MeAndMyWorld> Hello
[07:48] <MeAndMyWorld> Is anyone here? :)
[07:48] <malkauns> no
[07:48] <cfhowlett> MeAndMyWorld, all the time.  ask your ubuntu question
[07:48] <MeAndMyWorld> Thank you
[07:48] <MeAndMyWorld> Actually its not a ubuntu question per say
[07:49] <MeAndMyWorld> Im looking for a irc network
[07:49] <MeAndMyWorld> But a bit more social........i see this has topics on phop, mysql, ubuntu itself etc
[07:49] <MeAndMyWorld> But nothing really social
[07:49] <MeAndMyWorld> Any network you guys recommend for that?
[07:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MeAndMyWorld, #network is one of my favourite irc channels. It really is a good community there
[07:49] <cfhowlett> !alis | MeAndMyWorld
 but isnt that channel about networking?
[07:50] <ouano> aukun, if [ $num -lt 0 ]; then echo "no number"; fi
[07:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MeAndMyWorld, like seriously; there are a lot of lousy irc channels out there full of hatred and evil, but #network just happens to full of really nice guys
[07:50] <MeAndMyWorld> I dont wanna talk about tech stuff right now out there
[07:50] <MeAndMyWorld> Just wanna have social talk
[07:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MeAndMyWorld, its unofficial... for more social...
[07:51] <MeAndMyWorld> "#network"?
[07:51] <MeAndMyWorld> Like that?
[07:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> let me double check
[07:51] <MeAndMyWorld> There are only 3 people in htere lol
[07:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MeAndMyWorld, #networking -- sorry :P
[07:51] <MeAndMyWorld> Lol ok ok
[07:52] <MeAndMyWorld> First thing i read is how a post error
[07:57] <Evil_Creep> How do I shutup cron.daily update-notifier-common? I don't have a mail server on my private server and so have a gmail setup on my server so php sendmail works. But the Flash plugin update notification keeps e-mailing me and getting stuck in a resend loop because postmaster@mydomain.com doesn't exists.
[07:57] <MeAndMyWorld> Crontab?
[07:58] <sweb> how can i upgrade ubuntu server from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS
[07:58] <MeAndMyWorld> Sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[07:58] <MeAndMyWorld> Do-release-upgrade
[07:59] <Evil_Creep> It doesn't need to be removed just shutuped... I don't need to know via e-mail every time the flash plugin for firefox is updated..
[07:59] <sweb> MeAndMyWorld: i dont want to upgrate to 14.10 ... `do-release-upgrade` will work well ?
[08:00] <cfhowlett> sweb, that's not an upgrade, that' s beta testing.  14.10 has NOT been released.
[08:00] <sweb> cfhowlett: if release the command still safe to be upgrade from LTS to upper LTS ?
[08:00] <cfhowlett> sweb, 14.10 is not lts
[08:01] <cfhowlett> sweb, and ubuntu doesn't have "upper LTS" - whatever that is.
[08:01] <sweb> cfhowlett: i know ... `do-release-upgrade` always upgrade to later LTS version or latest version of Ubuntu
[08:01] <cfhowlett> sweb, latest RELEASED version ...
[08:03] <Flannel> sweb, cfhowlett: from 12.04, you would never upgrade directly to 14.10, you'll go to 14.04 (and then you could maybe go again to 14.10).  There's a configuration variable (in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades) that determines whether you'll ever go from 14.04 to 14.10 or if you'll wait for 16.04 (or technically, 16.04.1) to upgrade.
[08:03] <sweb> Flannel: ty
[08:03] <sweb> cfhowlett: ty
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !cookies | Flannel,
[08:03] <cfhowlett> sweb, happy2help
[08:04] <Flannel> cfhowlett: You're probably looking for !cookie, but we get the idea ;)
[08:05] <Evil_Creep> So do I just wipe out cron.daily to shutup the flash plugin has updated e-mail? It only has http://paste.ubuntu.com/8267855/
[08:07] <matty_r> d
[08:07] <zmaja> hi guys, back again after running away yesterday
[08:09] <zmaja> So here's what im trying to do, and need help with doing: when i log into ubuntu, a terminal window should open up, a directory change command (cd foldername) needs to run, and after that another command. Also, the terminal window needs to stay open, and not close after running the last command
[08:22] <ni291187> qualcuno può aiutarmi????
[08:23] <parapan> hi fellows ... I want to setup a live USB distro with posibility to install updates and softwares ....what should I go for ? a large capcity USB stick ? 32/64 GB or a speed one ? USB3 maybe ??
[08:24] <bazhang> !usb | parapan 16/32 should do
[08:24] <bazhang> see the link on persistence parapan
[08:24] <Evil_Creep> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226378 << Great flash drive and cheap. My has lasted more then a year.
[08:28] <parapan> bazhang: but what will serve me most on a USB install ..the space or the speed ??
[08:28] <DusXMT> parapan: the fact that you don't need to burn a CD
[08:28]  * DusXMT finds
[08:29] <bazhang> parapan, neither . usb persistent will be slower.
[08:29] <parapan> DusXMT: I'm almost positive that on the CD you cannot burn additional files ..I need a persistent version :D
[08:30] <DusXMT> parapan: if you figure out how to edit .squashfs files, then you can
[08:30] <parapan> bazhang: K, I can live with that > any ideea about speed ? half the HDD speed ?
[08:30] <zmaja> need to run two terminal commands on startup, any help?
[08:30] <bazhang> much slower parapan
[08:30] <DusXMT> zmaja: At boot, or login?
[08:30] <zmaja> DusXMT: login
[08:31] <zmaja> need to run one after another, and terminal window needs to remain open
[08:31] <parapan> pffff ...So it is wothed than ? my problem is that my work laptop is encrypted HDD and also full of reporting and monitoring tools ...
[08:31] <Evil_Creep> A normal cheap 2.0 USB flash drive gets about 10MB/s.. The pricy 3.0 can do 100MB/s..
[08:32] <parapan> bazhang: and want to have this live persistent Ubuntu do do my own stuff without anyone sneaking around my system =))
[08:32] <ady> ok
[08:37] <parapan> bazhang: I have USB3 port on the laptop that's why I was thinking about an USB 3 pendrive . .. .
[08:38] <bazhang> parapan, so make one and see
[08:39] <Evil_Creep> Ok if no one knows how to fix the cronjob sending me e-mails (I've already tried googling a fix but haven't found one for the flash plugin update notification) is there a way to change the postmaster@domain.com to another e-mail. Gmail keeps trying to resent the e-mails but I don't have a mail server so postmaster doesn't exist.
[08:49] <zmaja> ok, i got terminal to open on login
[08:49] <phreaker> moin moin
[08:49] <zmaja> added gnome-terminal to startup applications
[08:49] <zmaja> how do i make it run two commands as well?
[08:49] <tanghao> who can tell me how 同
[08:50] <cfhowlett> !cn | tanghao
[08:50] <tanghao> who can tell me how to set the default encoding of mousepad on xubuntu 14
[08:51] <bazhang> !ibus | tanghao
[08:51] <tanghao> i cannot get positive support in ubuntu-cn
[08:51] <bazhang> tanghao, see above
[08:51] <tanghao> bazhang, ,ok
[08:51] <bazhang> tanghao, be sure to set ibus, then restart it
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !kylin | tanghao,
[08:52] <tanghao> but i am not using the ibus,i am using the fcitx
[08:52] <bazhang> tanghao, try ibus then
[08:52] <tanghao> bazhang, thx
[08:52] <tanghao> ubottu, thx
[08:53] <tanghao> cfhowlett, thx
[08:53] <cfhowlett> tanghao, happy2help
[08:53] <zmaja> any help for me too? :)
[08:54] <bazhang> zmaja, create a script for it , then place it in startup
[08:54] <zmaja> will the script keep terminal open after running?
[08:55] <Cage> Hello.
[08:55] <tanghao> 我刚才再老外们的ubuntu频道问了一下那个问题，据说在ubuntu上使用ibus，没有中文乱码的困扰？真的假的
[08:55] <bazhang> zmaja, is that what you want to happen? you need to give way more info
[08:55] <tanghao> sorryy
[08:55] <zmaja> gimme a sec, i think i got it
[08:55] <andyfied> very quick question, is xchat not maintained any more?
[08:55] <tanghao> i reply a wrong place
[08:56] <bazhang> tanghao, ibus works fine. if set correctly
[08:56] <bazhang> andyfied, hexchat is
[08:56] <bazhang> !info hexchat | andyfied
[08:56] <andyfied> bazhang, i'm on hexchat now, just setting it up with a nice theme
[08:56] <zmaja> bazhang: ok, so after log in, a terminal window opens, a change directory command runs, then another command runs, and the window stays open
[08:56] <zmaja> how do i make that happen?
[08:56] <andyfied> thanks for the info though :)
[08:57] <zmaja> upto now, i have terminal starting up using a startup application
[08:57] <bazhang> zmaja, ask here, or get help in #bash
[08:57] <Cage> I think I'm in the wrong room, I was just looking to chat, can anyone suggest a better room for that? Most are dead, I'm new to this and guessing hasn't been effective.
[08:57] <bazhang> Cage, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <Cage> Thanks.
[08:58] <bazhang> cage also use alis to search
[08:58] <bazhang> !alis | Cage
[08:58] <bazhang> the * wild cards * are key
[08:58] <Senji> what I add a PPA for example ppa:gnome-desktop or some other ppa thats recomended to me via offhand comments, what guarantees the source of that PPA? i mean, it's not a url with a domain, where is this name->authority of ppas stored?
[08:58] <Senji> when*
[08:59] <bazhang> Senji, no guarantee, you are on your own
[09:00] <Senji> no i mean, uh, how does my system know where to get the files from ppa:some-string-here
[09:00] <bazhang> Senji, if you mean the integrity, signing etc, thats launchpad
[09:01] <Senji> i'm just confused because it's not a url, so it must be contact an official ubuntu server and fetching the url from this string right?
[09:01] <bazhang> Senji, typically from /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[09:01] <bazhang> launchpad Senji
[09:02] <bazhang> not an official ubuntu repo, Senji
[09:04] <kostkon> zmaja, either do gnome-terminal --commmand=your commands  or  you could create the script, then create a custom desktop file for it and set the Terminal key to True    more info here http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.1.html   you could find and edit a desktop file that's already on your system .e.g locate .desktop     make the desktop file executable, place it  in ~/.local/share/app
[09:04] <kostkon> lications   then in the startup apps window add the name of that file, e.g. if it's myapp.desktop, then add "myapp"
[09:04] <kostkon> too long :/
[09:06] <anto> Hi
[09:06] <anto> I have a problem
[09:07] <anto> Like when i ran my oracle command from my machine.. It takes 1 hr to get the data back. I'm trying to get 20 tables. I need to identify why it takes long time
[09:07] <anto> Any idea??
[09:07] <htmlinprogress> java?
[09:08] <htmlinprogress> anto,  in progress XD
[09:08] <anto> Yes java
[09:08] <anto> I just want to track the call oracle calls
[09:09] <zmaja> thanks a lot kostkon, i'll try that
[09:09] <anto> So that i can see where it get strucks??
[09:09] <kostkon> zmaja, np
[09:09] <k1lleD> Hello everyone, i have a few question, first i have laptop Acer V3-772G with 8 ram, nvidia 750M video 4702MQ haswell processor. so i install ubuntu and fist thing is... when i start my laptop, and come login screen, i write my password, click log in, and watch 15-20 seconds only background photo... then everything shows up and is OK.
[09:09] <rah> I'm trying to get Google Hangouts working
[09:09] <zmaja> errr, do my commands have a comma in between them?
[09:09] <rah> I have a webcam that works fine in Cheese
[09:09] <k1lleD> And 2nd thing is, my soundd is really low.. at windows 7 and windows 8 when i make sound 12-15 is more high then in ubuntu 50%...
[09:10] <rah> however. Google Hangouts reports that no webcam is found
[09:10] <k1lleD> sry about bad english...
[09:10] <rah> how can I get my webcam to work?
[09:10] <svetlana> rah: don't use google hangouts. use tox. this is my personal view, anyway. a less-personal view would be to use empathy possibly, as it's more "stable".
[09:10] <zmaja> as in, i need to change directory then run a command, kostkon?
[09:10] <htmlinprogress> rah,  get the google hangout plugin ?
[09:11] <kostkon> zmaja, separate them using the semicolon aka ;
[09:13] <zmaja> nice
[09:13] <zmaja> thanks a lot man
[09:13] <kostkon> zmaja, np
[09:13] <rah> htmlinprogress: I have the google hangout plugin; google hangouts wouldn't be able to report that no webcam is found, if I didn't have google hangouts
[09:13] <zmaja> saved me from rummaging thru google results ,lol
[09:13] <kostkon> zmaja, :)
[09:15] <rah> how do I get my webcam working with google hangouts?
[09:19] <RoBo_V> I think I need swap for hibernation, I have 8GB ram. What is good way to set it up and how much space ?
[09:20] <htmlinprogress> rah,  https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangoutplugin/download.html you can try to install it. it may have the driver you need.
[09:24] <k1lleD> ello everyone, i have a few question, first i have laptop Acer V3-772G with 8 ram, nvidia 750M video 4702MQ haswell processor. so i install ubuntu and fist thing is... when i start my laptop, and come login screen, i write my password, click log in, and watch 15-20 seconds only background photo... then everything shows up and is OK. Why i must wait that 15-20 sec, what is problem?
[09:24] <k1lleD> And 2nd thing is, my sound is really low.. at windows 7 and windows 8 when i make sound 12-15 is more high then in ubuntu 50%...
[09:25] <N3uroNut> RoBo_V you might wanna follow this tutorial: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/442430-increase-your-available-swap-space-with-a-swap-file
[09:26] <rogier> I installed "WinThumbnails" gnome extension. It does not really work and i can not remove it! How do I get rid of this monstrosity? (https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/335/winthumbnails/)
[09:27] <N3uroNut> rogier, how did you install it?
[09:27] <rogier> From the gnome website.
[09:27] <N3uroNut> was it a debian package?
[09:27] <rogier> Its a shell extension.
[09:28] <rogier> I'm not sure. If you go the the website I linked to there is an on/ off switch.
[09:28] <htmlinprogress> rah,  http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ here is another way
[09:28] <arpit> hye
[09:29] <arpit> i m new someone is here
[09:29] <rogier> Top comment suggest removing it from home folder but I can not find it there.
[09:29] <kostkon> k1lleD, first of all, check your logs. open the system log app, check for any errors in e.g. syslog, kern.log, Xorg.0.log   also check the .xsession-errors log, by doing e.g.  gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[09:30] <N3uroNut> rogier, okay here are several files that can be downloaded. which ones did you use?
[09:31] <rogier> I don't know. Just put the switch to "on" it then auto installs.
[09:31] <kostkon> k1lleD, for your volume level problem, check your hardware volume levels with alsamixer, open terminal, give:  alsamixer    better have a look at its manual first with   man alsamixer
[09:31] <rogier> Sorry this is a gnome 3 problem, running debian. Just went to #ubuntu because I used ubuntu for years.
[09:32] <cfhowlett> rogier, !debian is your  channel
[09:32] <rogier> Yes maybe more gnome channel? Although Ubuntu supports gnome 3?
[09:32] <k1lleD> kostkon:  what i should looking for in logs? there have like 350-400 rows log only about starting OS
[09:32] <k1lleD> okey i try alsamixer now
[09:32] <rogier> Just want to remove this peace of crap.
[09:33] <kostkon> k1lleD, for anything unusual, for lines containing words like warning, error, missing, etc.
[09:34] <N3uroNut> rogier, Sorry I'm not really a GNOME expert. but I think the extensions are stored somewhere in your home dir in a hidden folder
[09:34] <N3uroNut> maybe if you delete the corresponding folder there you might get rid of it... but that's just a mere guess
[09:35] <rogier> Been searching could not find. I will head over to #gnome
[09:35] <rogier> Thnx!
[09:35] <OnceMe> hello I have an issue yesterdY i changed pw with sudo passwd user and now i canot access gui
[09:35] <OnceMe> why and how to fix it?
[09:35] <N3uroNut> ur welcome
[09:35] <DaemonErebus> maybe here: ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
[09:35] <OnceMe> i cant even this via terminal
[09:35] <k1lleD> so kostkon with error i find something, its a time when i start PC
[09:35] <OnceMe> su - stefan
[09:35] <OnceMe> Password:
[09:35] <OnceMe> Signature not found in user keyring
[09:35] <OnceMe> Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[09:36] <N3uroNut> pushing a button in a browser to install some extensions really scares the crap outta me
[09:36] <rah> htmlinprogress: err.. eh?
[09:36] <rah> htmlinprogress: that's the webpage for a driver
[09:36] <rah> htmlinprogress: what does that have to gdo with google hangouts?
[09:36] <kostkon> k1lleD, you said it takes a minute or so for the login process to complete
[09:36] <rah> htmlinprogress: I already told you, I have the hangouts plugin installed
[09:37] <rah> htmlinprogress: and I already told you that the webcam works in Cheese
[09:37] <OnceMe> can someone help me
[09:38] <OnceMe> help me pls
[09:38] <OnceMe> i want to use my ubuntu
[09:38] <Valarkin_> rah: Hangouts? You might be better off asking in the G+ communites or via a traget post
[09:38] <Valarkin_> *targeted
[09:39] <rah> Valarkin_: I don't do G+
[09:39] <rah> Valarkin_: what's "traget"?
[09:39] <Valarkin_> yet you do hangouts?
[09:39] <N3uroNut> OnceMe, can you open a terminal?
[09:39] <kostkon> k1lleD, you could try simple things, like resetting your gnome settings or your unity/compiz ones. although they are not very drastic, they will remove any customisations you may have applied, like themes, icons, widget placement, default apps, etc.
[09:39] <Valarkin_> it is corrected in the next line.
[09:40] <OnceMe> yes
[09:40] <OnceMe> i
[09:40] <OnceMe> brb
[09:40] <Valarkin_> So 'you do not do' the place that will likely answer your question?
[09:40] <Valarkin_> good luchk with that.
[09:41] <htmlinprogress> rah,  that is the general driver that i use on all my pcs and it works alot of the time. either on eis my recommendation - then restart  and try again
[09:41] <emx> there is a page that has links to minimalistic ubuntu images (i don't mean minimal cd). where do i find it?
[09:41] <k1lleD> kostkon:  i did nothing like customisations at my ubuntu. how to full reset it. and btw, there is the errors
[09:41] <k1lleD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8268506/
[09:42] <emx> never mind: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[09:42] <kostkon> k1lleD, ok, could you post the contents of your .xsession-errors file
[09:43] <k1lleD> mmoment
[09:43] <kostkon> k1lleD, the slowness starts only after you login right?
[09:44] <k1lleD> kostkon:  yes, i log in click enter, and then 15-20 sec i watching only background photo and wait to show everything else
[09:44] <kostkon> ok
[09:44] <rah> Valarkin_: I don't do hangouts either but I have a job interview and they've requested to use hangouts
[09:44] <rah> htmlinprogress: I have restarted, it hasn't helped
[09:44] <k1lleD> and first 30 seconds is like i cant open any program, i wait for any program 10-15 sec to open
[09:45] <k1lleD> and after 2-3 min started OS, everything is gone OK
[09:45] <rah> how do I get my webcam working with google hangouts?
[09:46] <kostkon> k1lleD, you might want to check this: EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[09:47] <kostkon> k1lleD, you could backup your data, just in case, and then force a fsck
[09:48] <k1lleD> kostkon:  this is second HDD on laptop and i have 0 data to save.. there is ubuntu to learn things. so tell me what is the general problem? how i can fix it, where i to read about it?
[09:48] <Valarkin_> rah: Then you need to do them. All I am saying is that if you do a g+ search you will find the people who both know g+ and ubuntu
[09:48] <Valarkin_> I assure you this has been discssed there ;)
[09:49] <He4dShOt> hey guys
[09:49]  * Valarkin_ is much more knowledgable about G+ than Ubuntu ;)
[09:50] <vitimiti> I almost don't know about G+, I'm really clumsy about these social networks
[09:51] <kostkon> k1lleD, ok, then in a terminal give:   sudo touch /forcefsck    and then reboot
[09:51] <He4dShOt> I'm having some problem with the nvidia driver...if I install it X won't start automatically anymore, but with nouveau it will freeze 2 minutes after login
[09:51] <Valarkin_> I quite like it as a platform - I rent fuill public a couple of years ago
[09:51] <Valarkin_> feels really strange to be hiding behind handles again
[09:51] <k1lleD> kostkon:  okey
[09:51] <Valarkin_> oops, off topic, sorry
[09:52] <htmlinprogress> rah,   did you restart after the programs i recommended was installed?
[09:53] <helmut_> hi
[09:54] <htmlinprogress> rah,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[09:55] <htmlinprogress> rah,   if that does not work. that im out of idea with this headache- not you though just getting tired.
[09:55] <richac> i can't believe it.  I just got booted from the linux mint chat channel because I said I liked windows 7
[09:55] <k1lleD> kostkon:  i am here, this thing have log.. ? where is it ?
[09:55] <richac> *banned
[09:55] <kostkon> k1lleD, has the situation improved?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> richac, this channel is ubuntu - nothing to do with mint.  what is your ubuntu question?
[09:55] <htmlinprogress> richac,  booted /kick /banned?
[09:55] <richac> ya lol
[09:56] <kostkon> k1lleD, which driver are you using for your nvidia card
[09:56] <richac> they must hate windows
[09:56] <htmlinprogress> all of them richac ?
[09:56] <Valarkin_> r4eligiusoit over OS
[09:56] <richac> all the linuxmint rooms
[09:56] <k1lleD> kostkon:  last, downloaded from nvidia official website
[09:56] <Valarkin_> religiosity*
[09:56] <richac> i said had problems starting the xserver
[09:57] <k1lleD> but this processor have integrated video card, i think ubuntu use this one
[09:57] <htmlinprogress> richac,  i have walk right into channels and told them boldly what i like and how to do that.[like windows 7 look on a linux box for my mom]
[09:57] <richac> i don't know what happend i rebooted and it wouldn't load up,    so they told me to uninstall windows since i was dual booting
[09:57] <richac> and i told them i like windows too much and my reasons and they banned me
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !ot
[09:57] <richac> i'm stunned
[09:57] <htmlinprogress> !off-topic
[09:57] <richac> is there an offtopic room?
[09:57] <htmlinprogress> off-topic
[09:58] <richac> thjats actually the room i went into on linuxmint too...and they still banned me
[09:58] <htmlinprogress> im not sure what they call it now but its there
[09:58] <richac> ok
[09:58] <k1l> guys, just read the bots message. htmlinprogress richac
[09:58] <k1lleD> kostkon:  now when i start show me one checking for .. erros on drivers or i dont know what, and little faster like 8-10 sec shows after log in.
[09:59] <htmlinprogress> k1l,  whats the channel for offtopic ?
[09:59] <k1lleD> but on my old laptop my ubuntu show everything at 1 sec after log in..
[09:59] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-offtopic
[09:59] <htmlinprogress> thanks cfhowlett
[09:59] <cfhowlett> htmlinprogress, happy2help
[10:00] <htmlinprogress> yes cfhowlett ?
[10:00] <k1l> htmlinprogress: ubottu already told you. just sroll back and read what poeple and the bots told in here
[10:01] <anto> any utility script to track the db calls to an specific port?
[10:02] <anto> any idea?
[10:02] <kostkon> k1lleD, yes, that was the fsck screen. so we are talking about a 50% improvement, more or less
[10:02] <cfhowlett> anto, might want to ask #bash or ##linux
[10:03] <k1lleD> okey :) what is fsck ?
[10:03] <kostkon> k1lleD, system app that checks the filesystem for errors
[10:03] <k1lleD> mhm, okey
[10:04] <htmlinprogress> k1l,  yeah and i moved to a different challagel as stated in this channel rules
[10:04] <k1lleD> how i can check wich one video card using ubuntu right now, i have 2, integrated intel HD Graphics 4600, and nvidia 750M
[10:05] <k1lleD> and how exacly to check drivers
[10:05] <k1lleD> versions
[10:05] <izarry> how to connect other channel on ubuntu?
[10:07] <TheJaume24> CLannnn
[10:09] <rah> how do I get my webcam working with google hangouts?
[10:11] <k1lleD> rah:  did actually your webcam work? on skype or something like this? i think there is no problem to work ont hangouts too...
[10:11] <minimec> rah: open this url in chromium-browser or google chrome for a start...
[10:11] <minimec> http://www.google.com/hangouts/
[10:13] <k1lleD> rah:  what browser using?
[10:13] <rah> k1lleD: yes, it works in cheese
[10:13] <rah> minimec: I've installed google hangouts, that's how I know it isn't working
[10:14] <rah> k1lleD: chrome
[10:14] <k1lleD> well let me install hangouts to check my work or no
[10:15] <minimec> rah: ok. Is this a USB webcam or an integrated laptop cam? what does 'ls /dev/video*' give you?
[10:16] <k1lleD> can be video0
[10:16] <cfhowlett> rah, if it works in cheese, you have good webcam drivers. sounds like configuring google hangouts is your issue.  DID YOU open google hangouts in chrome as was suggested?
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:20] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, hey bubba!
[10:20] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[10:22] <rah> minimec: it's a usb webcam, and /dev/video0 is present
[10:22] <rah> cfhowlett: yes, I opened google hangouts in chrome
[10:23] <rah> I'm trying to get Google Hangouts working.  I have a webcam which works fine with Cheese however, in a video call in Google Hangouts it tells me no device is found.
[10:23] <k1lleD> rah:  how you install hangouts, from where?
[10:24] <k1lleD> my cam works pervectlly fine at hangouts
[10:24] <rah> k1lleD: from google
[10:24] <k1lleD> chromium or chrome
[10:24] <minimec> rah: ok. So I guess you shouldn't have major problems. Looks like you have a working UVC based Webcam...
[10:24] <rah> k1lleD: chrome
[10:25] <k1lleD> hmm
[10:25] <minimec> rah: Are you logged in to that chrome hangout window? We could check whether the cam works...
[10:26] <rah> minimec: yes, I'm logged in
[10:26] <k1lleD> rah: you have PM
[10:27] <minimec> rah: if you '/notice minimec <your_hangout_name>' here in the chat window, I should get your hangout name. I could then try to find you...
[10:28] <rah> minimec: I'm not sure what you mean by "hangout name" but my email address is rah@bash.sh
[10:28] <rah> which I'm not concerned about hiding
[10:28] <rah> thanks
[10:28] <rockwood> You don't have permission to access /cyberiaaxis on this server.
[10:28] <rockwood> where i have to allow for this folder
[10:29] <minimec> rah: Ok. I got you. I never used that hangout thing. I will try to call you now, ok?
[10:29] <rah> minimec: ok
[10:30] <minimec> ok. My mic is off... ;)
[10:30] <rah> can you hear me?
[10:30] <minimec> rah: Wait. I have Sky Formula 1 running here ... ;)
[10:31] <rah> lol
[10:31] <minimec> rah: OK. You seem to be gone now...
[10:32] <rah> likewise
[10:32] <minimec> rah: "The video call ended because of an error"
[10:32] <minimec> rah: ok. connected again.
[10:33] <minimec> rah: I guess, you cannot see my cam image, can you?
[10:33] <rah> I cannot, no
[10:34] <rah> this.. doesn't seem to work :-/
[10:34] <rah> shit
[10:34] <minimec> rah: Ok. Now I get a message to install the plugin...
[10:34] <rah> hmm
[10:41] <minimec> rah: ok. Switched to firefox with the google-talk-plugin. You will be invited right now...
[10:42] <minimec> rah: My cam seems to be running now...
[10:44] <helloubuntu> hi
[10:44] <helloubuntu> i need help as i am unable to search for apps in dash
[10:45] <drvanon> I messed up my apache2 config, and I want to completely reinstall it. It should also revert file permissions is this possible?
[10:45] <rah> minimec: I didn't get an invite; sent you a call
[10:45] <rah> it looks.. like this doesn't work :-/
[10:46] <rah> I'm going to use smelly Windows :-/
[10:46] <rah> minimec: thanks for the efforts
[10:46] <minimec> rah: Yeah. I heard the call, but did not know how to accept. ;)
[10:46] <rah> I have to go and buy a webcam
[10:46] <emx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core <-- how do i add a local user and password?
[10:47] <minimec> rah: No problem Wanted to know, how it works too. So I can say that I have voice and video running in firefox with hte google-talk-plugin, but CPU is high...
[10:47] <minimec> rah: Next try. INvitation sent...
[10:48] <drvanon> I keep getting a 403 on my apache2 server. I think I did all the file permissions right. What is going on?
[10:48] <bekks> drvanon: Take a look at the apache logs - and 403 indicates that permissions arent set correctly. What did you cahnge where?
[10:48] <bekks> *change
[10:49] <drvanon> client denied by server configuration: /var/www/
[10:49] <bekks> drvanon: So which permissions did you change where?
[10:49] <drvanon> <Directory /var/www/html>    Require all granted </Directory>
[10:50] <drvanon> www root:root  (-R) -> www-data:www-data
[10:50] <emx> what prevents me from logging in as root?
[10:50] <helloubuntu> unable to search any apps in dash
[10:50] <minimec> rah: Looks better. We seem connected. Do you hear Johnny Herbert speaking? ;)
[10:50] <bekks> emx: Thefact that there is no root password set so you cannot log in as root.
[10:50] <rah> minimec: I do indeed
[10:50] <bekks> !root | emx
[10:50] <rah> minimec: so your webcam works
[10:51] <rah> minimec: mine doesn't :-/
[10:51] <minimec> rah: What about the image? Voice comes via logitech headset
[10:51] <rah> yep, I can see the image as well
[10:51] <rah> this is weird
[10:51] <rah> I can see my own IRC text over webcam
[10:52] <rah> this is a novel experience :-)
[10:52]  * rah puts windows side-by-side to see it in real-time
[10:52] <rah> lol
[10:52] <minimec> rah: So I have a Logitech Webcam Sphere, I am running firefox right now with the google-talk-plugin-64bit. Up and running... Cpu is rather high, but it's working.
[10:53] <rah> well I'm using chrome
[10:53] <rah> I'll see if firefox is any better
[10:53] <emx> bekks, then how do i add a user? i know i need to edit /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. but what do i need to take care of?
[10:54] <minimec> rah: I have to leave you for a moment. I have to do some weekend shopping. Will be back in an hour for the formula 1 qualifying. We can continue testing then... OK?
[10:54] <rah> minimec: ok, thanks for the help
[10:54] <emx> the thing is: i have a running linux on amd64 arch. the system i try to get running is arm arch.
[10:54] <bekks> emx: ou dont edit those files manually. Never. Do not. Dont. Use "useradd" instead.
[10:54] <emx> bekks how?
[10:54] <bekks> emx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[10:54] <emx> how do i run a useradd for (chrooted) arm arch on a amd64 arch?
[10:55] <bekks> emx: you cannot chroot into some installation for a different architecture.
[10:55] <bekks> emx: what are you actually trying to do there?
[10:55] <emx> bekks, i can chroot, but i can't run a program.
[10:56] <bekks> emx: because arm is a totally different architecture than amd64.
[10:56] <emx> bekks, adding a user to the arm image i got from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[10:56] <emx> bekks, i know
[10:56] <bekks> emx: If you knew that, you wouldnt try to do that ;)
[10:56] <emx> the easiest way to fix this in my opinion is temporarily setting a root password
[10:56] <emx> bekks, that's why i never tried.
[10:57]  * emx is a little wannabe software engineer :P
[10:57] <bekks> emx: you just said you are trying to chroot into an arm installation from a amd64 host. Thats impossible.
[10:57] <emx> bekks, you can chroot
[10:57] <bekks> emx: amd64 cannot run arm code, so you cannot run anything.
[10:57] <emx> bekks, that's correct
[10:57] <emx> but how do i add a user?
[10:58] <bekks> emx: so whatever you are trying there, using chroot is pointless, since you cannot run useradd inside that chroot.
[10:58] <emx> bekks, i know
[10:59] <emx> i can boot my arm platform but can't log in because root has no pw and i can't (or shouldn't) add a user without running any program.
[11:01] <jackbrown> I have a device on my lan 192.168.1.103 that show info about it's fucntionin, Is there a way to put it in trasparence and live on my desktop ? I mean  as  docklet or something like that
[11:02] <bekks> jackbrown: Can you be more precise please? Which device? Showing what exactly?
[11:03] <jackbrown> bekks: it's an idraulic devices that has some data and it refresh webpage every second almost I'd like to have it on my desktop in trasparence this is the page I need to put on my background
[11:03] <jackbrown> bekks: sorry if I sent you the link in PM it's for privacy
[11:04] <bekks> jackbrown: Well, that page does not contain any vital private data. However, I dont know any docklet/app/etc. that displays a webpage on the desktop in background.
[11:05] <jackbrown> bekks: ok thanks anyway
[11:07] <rah> hmm
[11:07] <rah> it works in firefox :-/
[11:10] <somsip> jackbrown: you could use conkey as the desktop applet/thingy and write a script to scrape certain data from the webpage and make it available to docky to display
[11:10] <somsip> !conky | jackbrown
[11:10] <flips> with lubuntu/lxde-desktop on ubuntu 14.04, is it possible to turn off "show window contents" while moving windows around? (Seems this graphics card is quite crappy -- server hw)
[11:10] <somsip> !info conky | jackbrown
[11:11] <jackbrown> somsip: conky it's actually very hard to configure did they made a userfriendly GUI to do that?
[11:11] <somsip> jackbrown: no idea - I've not used it for ages but was able to set it up in CLI when I did
[11:11] <jackbrown> somsip: any will to help me ?
[11:12] <somsip> jackbrown: honestly, no. Just passing by my computer and made the suggestion. AFK any moment now
[11:12] <jackbrown> somsip: don't you have any prebuilt configuration that I could Use ?
[11:14] <TK___> Hrishi, hello.
[11:19] <Netham45> http://i.imgur.com/2ToVRRv.png from mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:width=640:height=480:outfmt=rgb24
[11:20] <Netham45> ffmpeg gives http://pastebin.com/5ewXb2BF as output
[11:20] <Netham45> Anyone got any ideas?
[11:20] <Netham45> I'm using a custom-built kernel, so if it looks like I fubar'd it, what do I need to fix?
[11:21] <bekks> Netham45: Use an officially supported kernel instead.
[11:21] <Guest817> I would like to import X-ray pics from3 Cds into Aeskulap.  I haven't yet succeeded.  Anyone wanna helpl me do that?
[11:21] <Netham45> bekks, that's a useless answer.
[11:22] <bekks> Netham45: Well, custom built kernels arent supported in here.
[11:23] <Guest817> I use Ubuntu 14.04
[11:24] <Guest817> voidfire: I had to trash my partitions - both of them.
[11:24] <Netham45> bekks, funny, I don't see that rule anywhere.
[11:33] <manneta> hi
[11:33] <voidfire> Guest817 left huh/ ? :(
[11:34] <voidfire> sadly I didnt recover his encrypted folder contents
[11:34] <therealjayvi> I just reinstalled Ubuntu because it was quite clear I had no idea what I was doing when I installed it the first time. Since I have a fresh new install this time what should I do now? Isnt there some commands i need to run before I go too far?
[11:35] <voidfire> therealjayvi:  install xubuntu for starters
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> voidfire: why not use your backups?
[11:35] <voidfire> less unity and clutter and spy stuff
[11:35] <therealjayvi> whats that and how do I get there from here
[11:35] <vitimiti> There's no spy stuff, dude
[11:35] <voidfire> ActionParsnip: it wasnt my encryption dir.. i tried to help someone in here but he couldnt remember his passphrase at all
[11:35] <voidfire> nor try
[11:36] <therealjayvi> I like seriously messed up my profile the first time , it was pretty bad
[11:36] <vitimiti> therealjayvi, it's another distro based off ubuntu, with the xfce desktop instead
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> voidfire: yes, there is no "spy stuff" in Ubuntu
[11:36] <voidfire> vitimiti: I thought unity was tracking searches and stuff
[11:36] <voidfire> i'll take that back and I ask for forgiveness then
[11:36] <vitimiti> voidfire, you can deactivate it, and will most likely be deactivated by default in next releases
[11:36] <vitimiti> And "spy" is that it uses web search and amazon search
[11:37] <therealjayvi> soooo run something in the terminal and then its added...?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> voidfire: the searches can be sent to Amazon, but each user is not individually identifiable
[11:37] <therealjayvi> i literally know nothing about linux like pretty much straight nub
[11:37] <voidfire> average person doeesnt want to let amazon have his interests and targeted ads and and you know.. I said sorry already :)
[11:37] <therealjayvi> but I get  the basics
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> therealjayvi: what do you want to achieve?
[11:37] <vitimiti> voidfire, deactivate it until it's deactivated by default
[11:38] <voidfire> therealjayvi:  what I did was getting xubuntu then running some commands to turn it to uberstudent. nothing broke or not working plus some educational material. but I wont vouch for it
[11:38] <voidfire> vitimiti: maybe some of the user will do. others wont even know about  ;p
[11:38] <vitimiti> I'd rather use Lubuntu than Xubuntu
[11:38] <therealjayvi> I wiped my drive and installed from usb and it runs pretty good but the first time I was following some random guide online and after install I had to like run some commands to update library
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> therealjayvi: update which library?
[11:39] <vitimiti> voidfire, if you don't like it, you'll google for it. It's a few clicks away
[11:39] <therealjayvi> and I think thats why a lot of things arent working for me now becuase I dont really know what to type out and im afraid of messing things up
[11:39] <therealjayvi> you know I really dont know >.<
[11:40] <therealjayvi> but the one thing I learned is to not follow what random people decide to post on google searches thats for sure
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> therealjayvi: just get system updates and get your hardware working
[11:40] <voidfire> therealjayvi:  keep backups and never bee afraid of breaking the universe of ur personal machine , its not a production or anything important you can always reinstall  and you keep what you ve learned from your mistakes
[11:40] <therealjayvi> seems like everything is working so far but how do I make sure?
[11:41] <therealjayvi> I mean moreso like how do I get latest drivers for my laptop?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> therealjayvi: just use the hardware as you expect
[11:41] <voidfire> therealjayvi:  aside from random people there are ubuntu forums as well as stackoverflow and similar sites that state ubuntu and the particular version as well as which answer is accept as correct
[11:41] <vitimiti> You can use the additional drivers program if you want privative drivers that are available for ubuntu
[11:42] <vitimiti> privative*
[11:43] <therealjayvi> awesome thanks for the help so I should be good then yeah? oh I remember now it wasnt libraries I meant sources. Do I have to do anything before I take off to like add to them or something?
[11:44] <therealjayvi> because I'm getting some weird reactions to trying to download and install stuff in my terminal
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> therealjayvi: as long as the system is working ok then why fix it ;-)
[11:44] <voidfire> therealjayvi: what are you trying to dl and install? :)
[11:45] <therealjayvi> haha good call :) I am trying to install teamviewer so that my buddy and I can be lazy and dont have to walk across the room to look at each others screens haha
[11:46] <Hrishi> How can I stop the Apache service from being auto-started each time I reboot? I don't want to uninstall Apache
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> therealjayvi: there is an official guide for teamviewer but the requirement seems a bit weak imho
[11:47] <x_> hollow
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Hrishi: you can add the command to stop apache in /etc/rc.local or we can remove it frrom startup...
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Hrishi: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:48] <x_> 有人没
[11:48] <pi_> sudo stop apache
[11:48] <eeee> !cn | x_
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> pi_: trying to automate it each boot.
[11:50] <esseks> Hi guys! Is it possible to modify the mini.iso image in order to bot it in UEFI mode? I need the advanced text mode installer for a custom setup. A few days ago, someone suggested to try the DVD as well, but I would like someone to confirm it has the advanced installer and it can boot in UEFI mode before embarking in the 5GB download (sorry, slow connection here)
[11:52] <Hrishi> ActionParsip, how can I remove it from start up?
[11:52] <emx> is there a tutorial how to set up a core ubuntu system? (setting up LC_*, keyboard layout for consoles, setting time and so on?)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Hrishi: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue , please
[11:53] <eeee> Hrishi: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 disable
[11:53] <eeee> (or enable, to enable it)
[11:53] <metaphysician> How can I ensure the authenticity, integrity of these kernels at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?
[11:53] <metaphysician> s/ensure/confirm/
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician: how do you mean "authenticity"?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician: its a PPA, it comes with the same caveats as any other PPA
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician: as usual, we cannot support packges from PPAs in this chanmel
[11:55] <Hrishi> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l.
[11:55] <Hrishi> eeee, thanks!
[11:55] <eeee> np
[11:55] <metaphysician> ActionParsnip: where is Release and Release.gpg of the PPA?
[11:55] <Hrishi> ActionParnsip, eee, can you tell me which file store the information about start up services?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician: no idea. Sorry.
[11:56] <eeee> /etc/init.d/apache2
[11:56] <eeee> i think that's what starts it
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician: is the offiical Ubuntu kernel not running your hardware fully?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> eeee: thats the script to start and stop it
[11:57] <eeee> yeah i know, what i said, that's what starts it
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> eeee: the sym
[11:57] <dbugger> Hi guys. I have an issue: After doing "vagrant up" I type "http://localhost:4567" in the browser but I get a "This webpage is not available" message. I think Im being redirected back to port 80, because the URL changes from "localhost:4567" to simply "localhost". What could be happening here??
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> eeee: the symlinks in /etc/rc.X , makes it start or stop at boot?
[11:58] <eeee> Hrishi: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:03] <Hrishi> eeee, I do not uninstall Apache, but don't want it to be auto-started.
[12:04] <eeee> Hrishi: ok, that will do just that
[12:04] <eeee> Hrishi: why do you ask about the startup files?
[12:04] <eeee> or services
[12:05] <zarahoestra> niggers
[12:05] <Hrishi> eeee, I thought there could be a config file that holds all the start up services and maybe I could comment out the line with Apache..
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> !ops | zarahoestra
[12:06] <zarahoestra> the uk did you do
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Hrishi: sudo update-rx.d -f apache2 disable
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Hrishi: just as eeee said earlier
[12:07] <eeee> Hrishi: no, the files are symlinks in /etc/rcX.d
[12:07] <eeee> Hrishi: if you want to see running services type service --status-all
[12:07] <Hrishi> eeee, got it!
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> zarahoestra: do you have a support question?
[12:08] <Hrishi> What does rc stand for? Like in /etc/rcX.d and in .emacsrc?
[12:08] <eeee> Hrishi: runcom
[12:09] <eeee> ( run commands )
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Hrishi: runtime configuration
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Isn't it?
[12:10] <zarahoestra> i have
[12:11] <zarahoestra> how the fuck do i kill my mother with ubuntu
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> zarahoestra: you can use it to control something, like a weapon or such
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> zarahoestra: usb or com port or similar
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> zarahoestra  and mind your language
[12:15] <metaphysician> ActionParsnip: yeah, the 3.13 kernel in trusty has a bug: ethernet controller goes missing after resuming from suspend to RAM. It has been fixed in 3.14 kernel. https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/12/61
[12:17] <abc> Zilla:hai
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician: feel free to install the kernel, but it won't be supported here. Be sure to get the same arch as the current kernel :-)
[12:19] <metaphysician> ActionParsnip: yes, the problem is those kernels are not cryptographically signed by Ubuntu official. So someone could MITM me while I download them.
[12:20] <qwe> quit
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician:  bit paranoid....
[12:30] <Hrishi> Any Emacs user here?
[12:31] <TechChristoph> No vim
[12:36] <Hrishi> What is the purpose of /etc/issue?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> Hrishi  to show your release version
[12:39] <Hrishi> MonkeyDust : Thanks.
[12:39] <si7adby> hi to all. Can anyone tell me what's the key to press to make totem play video again at normal speed? I, by mistake, pressed some keys and now the video speed is faster than normal.
[12:43] <wapiflapi> Hi guys. How does fan control work? I'm using a Dell Latitude laptop, fans are always turning at full speed. I get it working when using i8kutils (and disabling bios control for fans) b ut that doesnt look like somthing that will automatically make the fans turn faster when needed.
[12:44] <wapiflapi> Am I correct in assuming this is will not manage the fans according to temperature ? And what would be the right tools to use for this ?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> wapiflapi  is this useful http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/
[12:47] <MrElendig> things might have changed a bit since 2008
[12:47] <MrElendig> just a warning
[12:48] <wapiflapi> I'm reading, first thing I don't like is its just a list of commands and doesnt actualy explain anything.
[12:49] <si7adby> so anyone can answer me?
[12:49] <MrElendig> wapiflapi: read the lm_sensors docs
[12:49] <MrElendig> asuming your fans are controllable using pwm from software
[12:49] <wapiflapi> does lm_sensors control fans ? Doesnt sound obvious with the name only
[12:49] <wapiflapi> will take a look at the docs, thanks for the pointer!
[12:49] <MrElendig> it comes with a tool named pwmcontrol
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> wapiflapi  additional: this is an easy way to monitor your computer's temperature, in terminal: watch -n 1 -d sensors    <-- 1 second interval
[12:50] <MrElendig> and fancontrol
[12:51] <MrElendig> i8kutils is usually what you want for dell boxes though
[12:51] <MrElendig> it is configurable
[12:51] <wapiflapi> the thing I dont understand is when everyone talks about "monitoring" does that involve changing fan speed automatically or will it just tell me my laptop is overheating and that I should change fan speed manually ?
[12:52] <MrElendig> wapiflapi: make sure you have auto enabled in  /etc/i8kutils/i8kmon.conf
[12:52] <MrElendig> and that i8kmon is actually running
[12:52] <wapiflapi> That sounds helpfull, thanks didnt know about the auto option
[12:52] <Ruruik> hello all, i want to ask, does low ram comsumesion will make also low power?
[12:52] <MrElendig> Ruruik: generally no
[12:52] <MrElendig> not on x86 anyway
[12:53] <Ruruik> MrElendig: and how i make my computer can run below normal for the power?
[12:53] <MrElendig> on some other architectures it might, but the difference is usually not significant
[12:53] <Ruruik> MrElendig: so it doesn't
[12:53] <MrElendig> cpu scaling makes a much bigger difference
[12:53] <MrElendig> and if this is a laptop then screen brighness is the biggest factor
[12:54] <Ruruik> MrElendig: and how if i change my laptop ram to lowvo?
[12:54] <MrElendig> Ruruik: laptops generally don't let you change the ram voltage
[12:54] <MrElendig> and many even ignores memory profiles
[12:55] <MrElendig> xmp/spd profiles that is
[12:55] <Ruruik> MrElendig: so if i buy a big hi cap battery is that great option? or stick with the wall electric cable?
[12:56] <MrElendig> depends on what your actual requirements are
[12:56] <MrElendig> the hardware, the workload etc
[12:57] <flips> Installed som packages from a repository. Want to downgrade. Commented out the sources.list.d/repofile entries, have the list of the packages I want to downgrade ... but can't remember how to force apt to fetch older versions
[12:58] <wapiflapi> MrElendig: looks like i8kmon is started as: tclsh /usr/bin/i8kmon --daemon --nouserconfig --auto
[12:58] <wapiflapi> And I can't find any config files
[12:58] <MrElendig> shoukd be one in /etc
[12:59] <wapiflapi> but I supose since its started with --auto it should be safe to deactivate bios control for the fans right ?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> wapiflapi, do you have / and /home partitions?
[12:59] <wapiflapi> I do
[13:00] <BluesKaj> wapiflapi, why not just install the previous release in / , then your settings and configs are still available as is your data
[13:01] <wapiflapi> New laptop, old settings are irelevant
[13:02] <BluesKaj> as long as you tell ubiquity to use the .home mountpoint with formatting in manual partitioning
[13:03] <BluesKaj> new laptop or not, a new install of the older OS will still work better than fooling the sources etc
[13:03] <wapiflapi> 'm not sure we're talking about the same thing BluesKaj
[13:03] <BluesKaj> perhaps not , maybe i misread
[13:04] <wapiflapi> I installed ubuntu not so long ago, today I got tired of hearing my laptop fan turning full speed all the time and decided to takle the problem.
[13:04] <Mrokii> Hello. What is an easy / standards compliant way to convert an avi-file to a DVD? I tried DeVeDe, but it doesn't work for me as, despite my attempts to change the path, it always tries to write its tmp-file to the system-HD (which doesn't have enough free space).
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  try winff, a frontend to ffmpeg
[13:05] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: Okay, will try, thanks.
[13:06] <wapiflapi> Mhm now I need to find something that would cause the fans to spin fast to see if it works. Anyone has a good test in mind ?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> wapiflapi  a youtube video
[13:06] <wapiflapi> compiling chrome should do the trick
[13:06] <wapiflapi> Oh youtube video sounds god, not sure if the fans are suposed to make noise though
[13:07] <wapiflapi> Also crapy connection :/ Lets go for chrome compil
[13:07] <BluesKaj> run an HD video
[13:07] <cfhowlett> wapiflapi, 1080 dpi out to do it.
[13:08] <_unreal_> hello i have 14.04 with xfce, i'm looking to install network-manager
[13:08] <_unreal_> seeking help on how to do so
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  i guess it's called nm-tool
[13:08] <pi_> sudo apt-get install network-manager
[13:09] <_unreal_> since I finally got my broadcom wifi card working
[13:12] <_unreal_> ok, according to ubuntu software center its installed already. great..... now how do I get it to be on the desktop??
[13:13] <wapiflapi> ok fans do automatically turn on, (took a while and 1080p is not enough aprently)
[13:13] <wapiflapi> chrom compil did the trick though
[13:13] <wapiflapi> thanks for your help everyone
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/520757/ethernet-network-disconnected-wireless-working
 if anybody can answer to this, please
 thank you
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> Aikilox  what's the output of: cat /etc/network/interfaces|pastebinit
[13:23] <Aikilox> http://pastebin.com/G9eiY7D5
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> Aikilox  does this show something: ethtool -i eth0     (or eth)
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> Aikilox  does this show something: ethtool -i eth0     (or eth1)
[13:27] <compdoc> probably have to install ethtool
[13:28] <Aikilox> http://pastebin.com/KTdr6hPq
[13:28] <Aikilox> i had to, yes
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> that's a lot of no's there
[13:31] <_unreal_> any one big on networking? I am using a DSM-G600 its a NAS server but has built in wifi, I have it setup as an access point. but I seem to be only able to connect one device at a time via WIFI? now I was going threw the settings on it. and I noticed there is an area for channels, and its set to a channel but there is a checkbox that says auto select. could that effect multi devices being able to connect to the access point?
[13:33] <compdoc> shouldnt affect it
[13:39] <Aikilox> MonkeyDust, to yes everything
[13:39] <Aikilox> ?
[13:42] <josmala> How can I get 32bit openGL running with my radeon 4670. 3D works in 64bit apps work but wine needs 32bit to run at all.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> Aikilox  ifdown and ifup come to mind, moment
[13:45] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: I used WinFF to convert the avi to an mpg (that's all it does apparently). Do you know how I can burn the resulting mpg as a DVD?
[13:46] <esseks> wapiflapi, just a word of warning: be aware that forcing the fan to a certain speed might overheat the CPU and ultimately cook it. Just in case ;)
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> Aikilox  try: sudo ifup eth0   (or eth1)
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, brasero
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  brasero
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  was faster
[13:47] <wapiflapi> esseks: exactly that's the problem I was having, all solutions I found forced a certain fan speed ;)
[13:47] <wapiflapi> got it working with i8kmon --auto
[13:47] <Mrokii> cfhowlett, MonkeyDust: Thanks, will try.
[13:47] <wapiflapi> should work fine right ?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, happy2help
[13:48] <dunpeal> Hi. I'm trying to install 14.04.1 from USB onto my friend's Vaio laptop. Problem is, when I try to "boot from USB", all I get is a black screen with blinking cursor.
[13:48] <dunpeal> How do I debug this?
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | dunpeal
[13:49] <dunpeal> MonkeyDust: I don't even get a purple screen...
[13:49] <Mrokii> cfhowlett, MonkeyDust: Brasery tells me that the mpg isn't suitable for audio or video media. :-(
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, what?!!  wait 1
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  can you play the mpg with VLC?
[13:51] <frib> i have a bluetooth chip that ubuntu doesn't support oob.  so I added the product/vendor id to btusb.c and found a script to load the firmware that i extracted from windows driver (http://paste.ubuntu.com/8270171/).  for weeks this was working but all of a sudden, today it doesn't and all i have to go off of is a dmesg error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8270212/ -- can anyone help? thanks
[13:51] <esseks> dunpeal: wild guess, might be Secure Boot interfering in UEFI mode (no, it should not happen, but still...)
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, vlc-player?
[13:52] <dunpeal> esseks: this is an old laptop, it doesn't even support secure boot.
[13:52] <esseks> dunpeal, how did you create the installation media?
[13:53] <dunpeal> esseks: usb-creator-gtk
[13:53] <dunpeal> esseks: I verified all the MD5-sums already, everything checked out.
[13:53] <acidrain_> .
[13:53] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust, cfhowlett: I haven't tried VLC, but it works fine in mplayer.
[13:54] <acidrain_> hello. in ubuntu 14, when i run, for example: "gksudo sublime" how do i make it so it detaches from the terminal. instead of terminal giving me feedback on everything i do, and waiting on the app to close?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, vlc-player runs on a different set of codecs.  might be able to burn your dvd.
[13:54] <esseks> dunpeal, some tools get it wrong. Try using ddrescue or dd or cp to copy from the .iso file to the right block device. Maybe use /dev/disk/by-id/.... just to be sure. And remember to sync after.
[13:55] <dunpeal> esseks: is there a URL about how to create a boot disk with these alternative tools?
[13:55] <flips> what's up with singleuser/recovery mode trying to load samba and stuff? (14.04)
[13:56] <dunpeal> esseks: also, is there any alternative (like Windows "safe mode") way of booting the liveusb?
[13:56] <dunpeal> perhaps by pressing a particular key at startup or some such?
[13:57] <Mrokii> cfhowlett: VLC plays the mpg fine as well.
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  Media > Convert
[13:59] <esseks> dunpeal, not really. It's just one command: ``sudo ddrescue --force /path/to/ubuntu-<something>.iso /dev/disk/by-id/usb-<some-numbers-and-letters-here>``. I would also call ``sudo sync`` after.  About safe mode: not really, but you can press F2 at the purple screen to bring up the boot options screen and change some kernel parameters from the menu (nomodeset often works). But you first have to get to the purple screen. Otherwise, it's not likely a Ubu
[13:59] <esseks> ntu problem, it's you PC that cannot boot the USB key.
[14:00] <dunpeal> esseks: yup, I know the purple screen you speak of. I don't even get there currently.
[14:00] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: Convert to what?
[14:01] <esseks> dunpeal: alternatively, you could test the USB key on another machine and see if it works... if it does, then double check that the "bad" PC can actually boot from USB. Very old machines might need a real CD.
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  the format you want, even try mpg to mpg, maybe it repairs a corrupted file ... copy your file first, to some safe place
[14:02] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: Okay, I'll try.
[14:02] <dunpeal> esseks: thanks, I will.
[14:06] <Mrokii> well, I'll give up for now. No time anymore, need to try another time (maybe). Thanks for trying to help.
[14:10] <_unreal_> has any one setup remote desktop before? i'm looking to access my ubuntu tower, from a fedora laptop
[14:10] <_unreal_> I've never done that before and dont even know where to start
[14:10] <y3gang> maybe ssh
[14:12] <acidrain_> hello. in ubuntu 14, when i run, for example: "gksudo sublime" how do i make it so it detaches from the terminal. instead of terminal giving me feedback on everything i do, and waiting on the app to close?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  yes, start with ss, so you get familiar with ip addresses: ssh [local IP] [remote IP]
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  ss = ssh
[14:17] <_unreal_> ?
[14:18] <_unreal_> I'm not seeking remote access via SSH, I'm looking to do remote desktop GUI
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> !vnc | _unreal_
[14:19] <mote> _unreal_  Use vino-server
[14:20] <mote> _unreal_ and remote desktop it comes with ubuntu
[14:31] <nickmh> clear
[14:35] <rockwood> help me please
[14:35] <rockwood> error facing 403 forbidden
[14:35] <rockwood> \
[14:36] <cfhowlett> rockwood, what is the url?
[14:37] <claudio_> hello!
[14:37] <OerHeks> rockwood, we need more details
[14:37] <rockwood> localhost
[14:37] <rockwood> localhost/cyberiaaxis
[14:37] <rockwood> it happing on this url
[14:38] <rockwood> OerHeks: on this url ----->localhost/cyberiaaxis
[14:39] <rockwood> cfhowlett: on this url ----->localhost/cyberiaaxis
[14:40] <rockwood> You don't have permission to access /cyberiaaxis on this server.
[14:40] <OerHeks> rockwood, what is cyberiaaxis ?
[14:40] <rockwood> is a folder name
[14:41] <rockwood> OerHeks:  cyberiaaxis is a folder name
[14:43] <syntroPi> rockwood, check the folder permissions (imho must be readable for www-data)
[14:44] <rockwood> syntroPi:  how to check ?
[14:44] <_unreal_> ok so what do I need to do to setup a remote desktop server on my ubuntu computer?
[14:44] <_unreal_> or what would be my best option?
[14:44] <_unreal_> gurr an other stinking lighting storm is comming
[14:45] <rockwood> syntroPi:  chmod -R 777 /home/public_html
[14:45] <rockwood> i did this
[14:46] <syntroPi> rockwood, you did create a folder cyberiaaxis in your web-root which must be readable for the user of the webserver (www-data).
[14:47] <syntroPi> also you may want to look into settings for directory listing and default html pages (index.html or such)
[14:49] <akis> hi all.  in my desktop system where i installed xubuntu 14.04 (clean installation) was installed by default Xorg "nouveau driver" but although it works very fast it pixelized for seconds the screen after user's login. So i installed 173 from the alternative drivers list because with this the system run smoothly under 12.04. Unfortunately i realized that now (under 14.04) 173 works very slow and for example FireFox is very slow if i move up and d
[14:49] <akis> own a visited page. Also there is a big lag every time i click on the xubuntu logo icon to open whisky menu. So i turned back to "nouveau driver" which now (after i installed-deactivate 173) stopped to pixelize the screen after log-in but it shows a light blue lane while the system boots after the "xubuntu screen" and just before log-in screen. Do i have to unistall 173 (http://www.installion.co.uk/ubuntu/precise/restricted/n/nvidia-173/en/unins
[14:49] <akis> tall/index.html) or it is better to leave it like this? Is there any way to make 'nouveau driver' to stop show this 'blue lane'? Or is there any way to make 173 run faster maybe with a setup of nVidia X configuration settings?
[14:50] <Forgetaboutit> Hey guys, my personal Ubuntu 14.04 root server keeps crashing, seemingly because of overload from a Java application;  but I don't know for sure.  I don't have experience with situations like that. How would you recommend diagnosing the issue?
[14:52] <esseks> Forgetaboutit, have a look to /var/log and see if there is any log entry of interest...
[14:52] <_unreal_> how do I setup a remote desktop on my ubuntu system?
[14:52] <Forgetaboutit> esseks: what kind of log precisely?
[14:53] <compdoc> _unreal_, it should come with vino, which shares your desktop
[14:54] <esseks> Forgetaboutit, don't know, it depends on the cause -- which we don't know. I would start from dmesg and syslog, but just go through all log files in search of a warning. There's a reason why logging was implemented :)
[14:54] <Forgetaboutit> esseks: will do, thanks :)
[14:55] <OerHeks> _unreal_, search for 'remote' in dash, enable it, and it should work without reboot
[15:00] <Frenzo> hows it crackin, boyz'
[15:09] <acidrain_> hello. in ubuntu 14, when i run, for example: "gksudo sublime" how do i make it so it detaches from the terminal. instead of terminal giving me feedback on everything i do, and waiting on the app to close?
[15:10] <OerHeks> gksudo sublime &
[15:10] <OerHeks> not sure why you run sublime as root, but oke
[15:11] <acidrain_> so i can edit files that i dont have priv to as a normal user :P:
[15:13] <_unreal_> ugh
[15:13] <_unreal_> all I want to do is make a remote desktop connection. I dont know what the difference is between VNC AND RDP
[15:13] <OerHeks> vnc = remote desktop protocol
[15:15] <acidrain_> _unreal_: why not use teamviewer? :D
[15:16] <acidrain_> omg. rythmbox in ubuntu 14 is about to be removed from my favorite music player list
[15:16] <_unreal_> heh
[15:16] <_unreal_> OerHeks, ya I was just googling
[15:17] <_unreal_> what I need to do is setup the computer to be a vnc or RDP server. I dont know which would be the better or easier.
[15:18] <acidrain_> _unreal_: why not use teamviewer?
[15:18] <therealjayvi> voidfire :)
[15:19] <acidrain_> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDwQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voidfire.co.in%2F&ei=zCULVKz5G83ksASaiIDIAg&usg=AFQjCNEJCd2-mA2unO9f6KwTP05wHsc-FA&bvm=bv.74649129,d.cWc
[15:19] <acidrain_> ^void fire lol
[15:19] <OerHeks> _unreal_, ubuntu has vino rdp service buildin, so why search for something else?
[15:19] <esseks> acidrain_, if you need to edit a large, complex file, then copy it in your home, edit and sudo cp back. If you just need to comment a line, use nano.  It's literally 5 seconds to learn how to use it...
[15:19] <acidrain_> OerHeks: but teamviewer is suppoted on every device except apple
[15:20] <OerHeks> teamviewer goes tru their servers, i don't trust that
[15:20] <acidrain_> oh ya. so if teamviewer was hacked. then you are hacked.
[15:20] <acidrain_> good point
[15:21] <esseks> I'm not sure you want to run a large, complex application as root, especially one which can load random plugins from your use directory...
[15:22] <acidrain_> esseks: it doesnt bother me. its just an editor that has a nice syntax highlighting and autocomplete
[15:22] <acidrain_> thats all that matters to me
[15:22] <acidrain_> got tired of using notepad
[15:22] <acidrain_> i figured since its about to be 2015 i should upgrade from the 1995 applications
[15:23] <_unreal_> ok, I dont know anything about vino
[15:24] <_unreal_> OerHeks, is that consol only?"
[15:24] <acidrain_> OerHeks: wait. you know you can setup a password on teamviewer right?
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> _unreal_: I think it's a vino/vinegar combo, and it's remote desktop/vnc
[15:24] <_unreal_> ok??
[15:24] <acidrain_> OerHeks: once you do that, you cant use the 4 digit pin anymore
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> if you want console only, then ssh is fine
[15:25] <_unreal_> i'm kind of clueless here
[15:25] <_unreal_> i want remote desktop.
[15:25] <esseks> acidrain_, then copy the file to your home and edit locally. Although, I frankly doubt autocompletion is of any use for the majority of system files you might want to edit...
[15:25] <OerHeks> _unreal_, no. so you didn't check the program?
[15:25] <_unreal_> thats all I want to do is use this laptop I'm on and access my media server tower via remote desktop
[15:25] <_unreal_> is that a console only program?
[15:26] <OerHeks> _unreal_, i am not going to repeat, sorry
[15:26] <acidrain_> esseks: i will be editing /var/www/
[15:26] <_unreal_> all I see is vino-passwd and vino-preferences
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> try vino-preferences
[15:26] <_unreal_> it doesnt do anything just sits there
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  have you tried remmina?
[15:27] <_unreal_> last time I KNOW NOTHING about vnc/rdp, this is new ground first time. I have never heard of any of these programs
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  install and try remmina
[15:27] <_unreal_> is that a server?
[15:28] <SchrodingersScat> _unreal_: programs like teamviewer and vino are a vnc, so it's a matter of which you want to choose.
[15:28] <_unreal_> vinegar is not installed
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  no, it's program for remote access/control
[15:28] <_unreal_> ? how many times to I need to state I need a server
[15:28] <_unreal_> server
[15:29] <_unreal_> I need to setup a server on the 14.04 lts, with xfce
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  like digital ocean, then
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> ?
[15:29] <_unreal_> digital ocean I have no idea what that means
[15:29] <OerHeks>  vino server/service is installed, you connect to that tru your browser + ip
[15:29] <esseks> acidrain_, and you need root for that? Just add yourself to the www-group and/or set the right permission on those files. If you are developing a web app/site, then update the whole workflow to 2015: start a local dev server in the project directory. We did things right in /var/www in 1995 :)
[15:30] <_unreal_> browser hum
[15:30] <cfhowlett> !server | _unreal_,
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  did you have a plan, before you came here?
[15:31] <erikk> I went to #gnome but didn't get much help there, was hoping somebody here could tell me why my volume slider only seems to produce volume when it is at 40% or above? I'm using Ubuntu Gnome
[15:32] <erikk> approx 40%
[15:32] <esseks> erikk maybe the volume control is a bit too coarse. What soundcard are you using?
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  is it a VPS you're looking for, Virtual Private Server?
[15:33] <acidrain_> esseks: lol
[15:33] <_unreal_> MonkeyDust, I just want to remote desktop into my media server
[15:34] <esseks> _unreal_, are you sure your media server has a GUI? What device are we talking about?
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  so you have a server, right? use remmina, to gain access
[15:35] <erikk> esseks: It says Audio device: AMD, Inc Trinity HDMI Audio Controller and Audio Device: AMD, Inc FCH USB XHCI Controller
[15:35] <erikk> Perhaps I need to install something for them?
[15:35] <erikk> It says "kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel" for both of them
[15:36] <kafee651> hi all
[15:36] <mandeep> kafee651,  hey
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  read this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/remmina-remote-desktop-client.html
[15:38] <mandeep> Hey guys, I have a question. How to switch between linux distibutions(ubuntu or else) without losing customization (configuration)  done to the previous one.
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> _unreal_  that link tells to use a ppa, but it's now in the ubuntu sources
[15:39] <cfhowlett> mandeep, virtualization.  put your test/customized in virtualbox and go nuts.  save your REAL distro for real work.
[15:40] <mandeep> cfhowlett, but what if I want to completely port from one distro to another.
[15:40] <cfhowlett> mandeep, ... outside of my narrow wealth of knowledge. sorry.
[15:41] <mandeep> cfhowlett, it's okay.
[15:41] <mandeep> Thank you.
[15:41] <brunost> hi! I'm having trouble compiling a piece of software due to gcc not being able to find module.h which is a kernel module IIRC, anyways does anybody know if there are any issues between ubuntu 14.04 and gcc4.8 or if I'm just doing something stupid
[15:41] <mandeep> Please anyone help me.
[15:43] <acidrain_> someone had told me there was a way to make netflix work without using monolight/pipelight
[15:43] <acidrain_> said something about html5
[15:44] <OerHeks> acidrain_, correct, chrome + html5
[15:44] <OerHeks> chrome only
[15:45] <acidrain_> cool. ill download chrome now
[15:45] <acidrain_> thx
[15:45] <acidrain_> guess firefox is out now
[15:45] <OerHeks> mandeep, some share the /home folder between different linux distro's, but that can give unwanted results, when different DE's are used
[15:48] <mandeep> actually I want to port between two systems with different distros.
[15:48] <kiteau> hello
[15:48] <OerHeks> mandeep, good luck then :-)
[15:49] <mandeep> OerHeks, but I don't want to lose customization. :(
[15:49] <kiteau> i have something mounted in /hosts that takes 32 gigs of space, is thoses files required? is it system files?
[15:49] <mandeep> OerHeks, can you suggest some way to backup all configurations.
[15:50] <kiteau> -> /host/ubuntu
[15:50] <acidrain_> omg. i tried to install chrome via .deb file and now ubuntu says internal system error occured
[15:50] <acidrain_> keeps poping up. and chrome did not even instal
[15:51] <axn> split
[15:51] <acidrain_> Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[15:52] <_unreal_> solved my VNC needs my self following this http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.04
[15:53] <OerHeks> mandeep, you can copy configuration files to a dedicated partition, and read that from within an other distro. or share the /home folder. or use a cloud-backup solution. keep in mind that the Desktop Environment should be identical.
[15:54] <mandeep> OerHeks, how to copy all configuration files at once.
[15:54] <kiteau> can i remove /host/ubuntu ?
[15:58] <OerHeks> mangirdas, something like this: cp -R ~/* <destination>
[15:58] <__marco> Hello. Ubuntu 14.04 is performing really slow on virtualbox. How can I disable 3D?
[15:58] <acidrain_> google chrome does not play netflix. says i need silverlight still
[15:59] <compdoc> theres an app for netflix on android
[16:00] <compdoc> I thought there was something for linux
[16:00] <darkxploit> hello i need the documentation for dnssec on ubuntu server 14.04 LTS . can someone help me please with some links ?
[16:00] <usr13> acidrain_: I think you need pipelight ?
[16:00] <OerHeks> acidrain_, maybe this page is any help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[16:00] <pi_> somethink like find / *.conf | grep |cp * /home/yourhome/*
[16:00] <acidrain_> no. im looking at something that says goto netflix account -> playback -> html5
[16:00] <pi_> somethink like find / *.conf | grep |cp * /home/yourhome/*
[16:00] <OerHeks> something aboutlibnss3
[16:00] <la_dead> if your on ubuntu you can download netflix on the ubuntu store
[16:01] <pi_> fds
[16:01] <SchrodingersScat> acidrain_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[16:01] <jhutchins> la_dead: Why do you need a special app?  Can't you just watch in a browser?
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> I can't duplicate finding netflix in the software center
[16:02] <darkxploit> hello i need the documentation of bind package for ubuntu?..
[16:03] <la_dead> nope it uses some software that is made by windows. so the netflix team made a scrip that sets up wine so you can run netflix on linux
[16:04] <la_dead> for windows not by windows
[16:04] <usr13> !netflix
[16:04] <kiteau> i have something mounted in /hosts that takes 32 gigs of space, is thoses files required? is it system files?
[16:04] <kiteau>  /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk
[16:04] <pi_> cp *.conf | grep | find / *.conf ...... somthnk like that
[16:04] <SchrodingersScat> kiteau: I don't have this folder, is it something you created?
[16:05] <kiteau> i am not sure, i think it appeared when i upgraded from12.04 to 14
[16:05] <kiteau> and when i try to unmount it: umount: /: device is busy.
[16:06] <usr13> kiteau: df /host/
[16:06] <usr13> kiteau: (What device is it?)
[16:07] <Dr_Dan> Question:   configurafion:  asus netbook/ubuntu 14.04/chrome 36/pepperflash 14.0.0.177.   Issue:  chrome will not play cnn videos well (several seconds of jitter).  But ff with macromedia flash plays very well.
[16:07] <kiteau> /dev/sda2       40857596 31593612   9263984  78% /host
[16:07] <usr13> kiteau: df  #Where is everything else?
[16:08] <usr13> kiteau: Oh, is this a VM?
[16:08] <kiteau> /dev/loop0      29848536  25144576   3164684  89% /
[16:08] <kiteau> no it is not
[16:08] <kiteau> dual boot tho
[16:08] <OerHeks> Dr_Dan, update, as chrome is now v37.0.2062.94
[16:09] <usr13> kiteau: df |pastebinit
[16:09] <usr13> kiteau: Not sure what /host/ would be for....
[16:09] <Dr_Dan> Was there a pf fix?
[16:09] <usr13> kiteau: Show us...
[16:09] <Renf> Hey
[16:09] <kiteau> http://pastebin.com/AkiLzhky
[16:10] <eeee> hey Renf
[16:11] <basketball> How can i install libre 4.3 from ppa
[16:11] <kiteau> sudo lsof | grep /host/ returns nothing
[16:11] <_unreal_> now that I have solved my VNC needs my self following this http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.04 using vnc-server is there anyone that could help me include this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualGL
[16:11] <OerHeks> basketball, find the ppa, add it, and upgrade
[16:12] <cfhowlett> !ppa | basketball
[16:12] <Renf> Can anyone with ssh experience help me with something?
[16:13] <acidrain_> lmao
[16:13] <acidrain_> !
[16:13] <acidrain_> it works!
[16:13] <BluesKaj> Renf, describe your issue
[16:13]  * acidrain_ uninstalls firefox and chrome stable
[16:13] <usr13> kiteau: Is this a new install?
[16:13] <Renf> BluesKaj: Im trying to access an ubuntu server remotely, but it always denies permission..
[16:14] <usr13> kiteau: 14.04 ?
[16:14] <kiteau> well, since the ppa were all outdated, i had to upgrade with the cd's
[16:14] <Renf> BluesKaj: Ive tried generating keys and stuff, also set a password for root, but it still doesnt let me in
[16:14] <kiteau> so, it might be my old installation...
[16:15] <SNAFUdowser> Hey guys I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 and I keep getting a black screen after the logo appears.  I've tried using a USB and DVD and setting nomodeset, nolapic, and acpi = off but nothing has worked.  Is the only option to disconnect my graphics card?
[16:15] <usr13> kiteau: I don't understand because / is on  /dev/loop0 (So where is /home/  df home )
[16:15] <cfhowlett> SNAFUdowser, if you do so easily - then install.  configure graphics in post-install
[16:16] <kiteau> /dev/loop0      29848536 25145040   3164220  89% /
[16:16] <usr13> kiteau: df /home/   #What does that say?
[16:16] <usr13> kiteau: That is /home/?
[16:16] <kiteau> yes
[16:17] <SNAFUdowser> cfhowlett: What do you mean by "if you do so easily"?  Sorry didn't quite understand.
[16:17] <kiteau> sudo umount -l /host
[16:17] <kiteau> that actually worked
[16:18] <Dr_Dan> @OerHeks:   i have chrome 37.0.2062.94  and  pepper 14.0.0.177  now.  Still same.
[16:18] <usr13> kiteau: Is it wubi?
[16:18] <kiteau> no, i don't have wubi
[16:19] <harris> eeee, you here
[16:19] <Renf> Wow, nvm, I solved it
[16:19] <Dr_Dan> OerHeks: why is macromedia flash so much better in performance than pepper
[16:20] <veryhappy> hey guys, i have a big problem with my ubuntu now, yesterday i installed a few packages and now my X server completely failed. i cant access any graphical system anymore. is there any list which packages i have installed recently?
[16:21] <usr13> kiteau: Well, I do not understand your root directory being on a loop device, (/dev/loop# is normally for mounting ISO images).  Maybe someone else knows....  http://pastebin.com/AkiLzhky  ANYONE...?
[16:21] <OerHeks> Dr_Dan, it shouldn't be better.
[16:21] <Blomquist> hmm
[16:21] <veryhappy> OerHeks: do you know an answer please?
[16:22] <usr13> veryhappy: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf #What does that say?
[16:23] <usr13> kiteau: http://pastebin.com/AkiLzhky  Does not look like a filesystem for a normal install.
[16:23] <SNAFUdowser> So guys is there anything I can do to start the install process without getting a black screen that doesn't require removing my graphics card?
[16:23] <usr13> !nomodeset | SNAFUdowser
[16:23] <OerHeks> veryhappy,  Last 5 Installs >>  cat /var/log/dpkg.log* | grep "\ install\ " | sort -r | head -n 5
[16:24] <SNAFUdowser> Yeah I tried nomodeset and it's still a black screen.
[16:24] <usr13> SNAFUdowser: What video chip is it?
[16:24] <SNAFUdowser> GTX 760
[16:25] <usr13> kiteau: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[16:25] <veryhappy> lsv:
[16:25] <veryhappy> lsv:
[16:26] <usr13> kiteau: I don't see how unmouinting /host/ will do anything for you.
[16:26] <OerHeks> SNAFUdowser, gtx 730/760 will be supported in Nvidia 319.32 package, not available in our repositorys AFAIK
[16:27] <usr13> SNAFUdowser: So it is Nvidia?
[16:27] <SNAFUdowser> Yeah Nvidia.  What do I do then if it's not supported your repositories.
[16:27] <Dr_Dan> OerHeks, Its on a low-end asus netbook  but that shouldnt matter if ff with flash 11 is playing the video right.  Did pepperflash get bloated or what
[16:28] <kiteau> indeed...
[16:29] <veryhappy> OerHeks: cool thanks
[16:29] <usr13> kiteau: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[16:29] <kiteau> ill have to backup and reinstall everything i think
[16:29] <kiteau> No LSB modules are available.
[16:29] <kiteau> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[16:29] <bayker> giv zdorov priegayte v gocti
[16:30] <veryhappy> OerHeks: can i specify all the packages that i found to remove with apt-get?
[16:30] <OerHeks> veryhappy, if you installed them yourself, yes, if they are updates, no
[16:30] <usr13> kiteau: Well, if you got what you have now from the last install, how do we know you won't get something very similar from another install?  What size is your HD?
[16:31] <usr13> kiteau: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[16:32] <usr13> !paste | kiteau
[16:32] <kiteau> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8271542/
[16:32] <SNAFUdowser> So are there any other options that I can pursue that isn't nomodeset or disconnecting the entire GPU just for the install?
[16:33] <veryhappy> OerHeks: and how can i specify the packages to remove with apt-get?
[16:34] <usr13> kiteau: Looks to me like it is wubi
[16:34] <unkn0wn_ng> Hello Room Can someone recommend a great alternative to Exchange server on Ubuntu
[16:34] <unkn0wn_ng> I am thinking of zentyal or zimbra collaboration suite
[16:35] <chickencoder> ( . ) ( . )
[16:35] <usr13> kiteau: My advise is to back up your personal files, (/home/) and personal files on your MS Windows filesystem [as needed], and do a real install, (not wubi).
[16:35] <kiteau> thats what i will do
[16:36] <kiteau> weird thing tho, is that i have my files from my old install...
[16:36] <kiteau> anyways
[16:36] <SNAFUdowser> veryhappy: maybe this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-completely-uninstall-a-package-237772/
[16:36] <usr13> kiteau: You seem to have plenty of HD space, you have a 500G and a 1TB drive in this computer, so re-arrange things and do a real install, (not wubi).
[16:36] <usr13> kiteau: You know what wubi is, right?
[16:36] <kiteau> ok! thanks
[16:36] <kiteau> no i don't
[16:37] <usr13> !wubi | kiteau
[16:37] <kiteau> ahh i see
[16:37] <usr13> kiteau: I do *not* recommend wubi.
[16:37] <veryhappy> SNAFUdowser: what "maybe this"?
[16:37] <SNAFUdowser> veryhappy: I was saying that that link may answer your question on removing packages with apt-get.
[16:38] <usr13> kiteau: wubi is ok for someone to just see what a ubuntu system might look like, but not for actual use. (But that is just my opinion, but I share that opinion with lots of others for sure).
[16:39] <veryhappy> SNAFUdowser: give me some time i need to copy off the link i use irrsi (the text chat program) right now
[16:40] <veryhappy> ls
[16:40] <veryhappy> clear
[16:41] <usr13> kiteau: So the process would be to backup your files, uninstall wubi, re-arrange your MS-Windows filesystem, make room for a Ubuntu install, shrink partition(s) to leave some free [unpartitioned] space, and then do a real Ubuntu install.  (And this is why I don't recommend wubi installs.) Now I understand that there is some way to convert wubi to a real install, but I don't know about it.  Maybe someone else does....
[16:41] <veryhappy> SNAFUdowser: i dont mean just removing the packages, but removing the packages that i have logged in /var/log/dpkg
[16:41] <usr13> kiteau: If you add another HD, that might be easiest.
[16:42] <SNAFUdowser> veryhappy: Yeah that's why I said it may help lol I wasn't up to date on the context of your question.  Sorryy! lol
[16:43] <usr13> kiteau: Is your MS Windows install XP?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> usr13, I think one dd's the wubi file to a linux partition and somehow make it bootable ...my memeory is vague
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[16:43] <usr13> BluesKaj: Yea, I don't know either.  I've seen discussion about it but...
[16:44] <usr13> BluesKaj: There was supposed to be some automated thing for it...
[16:44] <jhutchins> cygwin is a better solution than wubi
[16:44] <usr13> cygwin ?
[16:45] <jhutchins> Yep.
[16:45] <usr13> Sorry, I don't know anything about cygwin
[16:45] <BluesKaj> even cygwin is clunky
[16:45] <usr13>  ubottu doesn't either
[16:46] <jhutchins> Windows is clunky, so anything you run on it...
[16:46] <eeee> usr13: it's for windows, to compile linux programs on it
[16:46] <usr13> jhutchins: Good point.
[16:46] <jhutchins> cygwin is a suite of linux programs that run under windows.
[16:46] <BluesKaj> I'd sooner dualboot which I do now...vms don't cut it for me either
[16:47] <usr13> VM is the only solution that makes any sense to me, (but when the host is MS Windows, it seems just upside down...)
[16:47] <SNAFUdowser> OK so I'm guessing no one has very good advice for solving a blackscreen on installing Ubuntu besides nomodeset/disconnecting GPU?  I guess I'll wait a few more minutes and then start guessing.
[16:47] <BluesKaj> usr13, yup
[16:47] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: can you boot into text mode?
[16:48] <usr13> BluesKaj: Dual boot is ok, but a waste of space, (because what normally happens is that the Ubuntu user rarely boots back to MS Windows.
[16:48] <SNAFUdowser> eeee, I'd love to.  I didn't know that was a thing.  I'll try that out.
[16:48] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: do you know how?
[16:49] <usr13> BluesKaj: ... he soon finds little need for the other OS).
[16:49] <SNAFUdowser> eeee, I was going to look it up but I'm happy to have you tell me if you want! :) lol
[16:49] <BluesKaj> SNAFUdowser, ctl+alt+F1 to F6 , login and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:49] <usr13> BluesKaj: ... at least, that has been my experience.
[16:50] <SNAFUdowser> BluesKaj: What's good about running apt-get update && upgrade on a bootable USB?  Or is that just needed for logging into text mode or something?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> usr13, yeah, I login to windows once every few days , but I keep it around for wifey sake since I need to keep up so that her windows install is familiar to me :)
[16:51] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: try accessing tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1, first, if that doesn't work, hold shift while your computer boots so the grub menu appears, then press e to edit the ubuntu entry, in the line that says Linux /boot/vmlinuz... quiet splash, add text to the end of it then press ctrl+x to execute
[16:51] <_unreal_> any one played with virtualGL on VNC?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> SNAFUdowser, sorry didn't see your original question ...thought you were talking about an install not live media
[16:52] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: Cool I'll try it out thanks!
[16:52] <SNAFUdowser> BluesKaj: Ah cool np
[16:52] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: you should do this on your installation SNAFUdowser not a live usb
[16:53] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[16:53] <hermy0123> Wherein the world  am I now?
[16:53] <samthewildone> This is starting to piss me off... really
[16:53] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: Oh, so then how can I get it installed if I'm getting a black screen on installation?  Is there a text mode on the installer which would let me install and then follow those steps?
[16:53] <OC39648> I need help
[16:53] <samthewildone> I just reinstalled ubuntu this morning and I still get random crashes.
[16:53] <eeee> hermy0123: you know the scene in men in black 2, where he opens the locker and you see tiny men? we're like those men in your ubuntu
[16:53] <samthewildone> Now I get nautilus crashing for doing nothing.
[16:53]  * OC39648 is attempting to boot a linux distro off a USB drive. 
[16:54] <usr13> BluesKaj: My wife is a Ubuntu user.
[16:54] <samthewildone> I did a fresh install with crypto5
[16:54] <OC39648> My Problem: USB is not listed in boot menu.
[16:54] <jcool> windows boots to purple screen after installing ubuntu 14.04. any reason?
[16:54] <hermy0123> THX eeee! Question on Ubuntu 14.04
[16:54] <OC39648> Other things: It shows up in the BIOS. I can't seem to add it, though.
[16:54] <jhutchins> OC39648: How did you set up the USB?
[16:55] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: ah, sorry, i thought you installed, then got a black screen on boot, my bad :)
[16:55] <OC39648> UNetBootin
[16:55] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: i think the minimal cd is text based
[16:55] <usr13> BluesKaj: New converts are like people that don't know how to swim, but if you through them into the middle of the lake, they will usually just start to swim.
[16:55] <samthewildone> Question, does these bug reports go to Ubuntu ? Anytime I experience a application failure I get a detailed dialogue box but, nothing to send info to developers.
[16:56] <jcool> everything works except that purple screen on boot of windows.
[16:56] <jhutchins> OC39648: What installs do you have now?
[16:56] <SNAFUdowser> eeee, Ah no problem >.< and OK I'll check out the minimal cd then.  Let me know if you think of any other options.  But thanks anyway!
[16:56] <OC39648> On flashdrive or computer?
[16:56] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: ok, good luck & np
[16:56] <BluesKaj> usr13, wife's too old to change here and she plays LOTRO so linux is kind of out of the question ...besides it's her pc , she can do what she wants with ...I'm just here to fix stuff :)
[16:56] <samthewildone> Example : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rZKP9LDqUFODlZOE1UU3A5bEE/edit?usp=sharing
[16:56] <jhutchins> OC39648: I mean what did you run unetbootin from?  What this probably means is that it didn't work.
[16:57] <hermy0123> Ubu14.0almos md PC redering it extremely slow to the point that I had o e=nstall 10.01 and build it up to where I am now! Anyone knows about Zorin, another distro?
[16:57] <OC39648> I ran UNetBootin off a computer to install a Kali Image onto the flashdrive
[16:57] <OC39648> The flashdrive was formatted in FAT32 beforehand.
[16:58] <_unreal_> BluesKaj, you slave ;)
[16:58] <usr13> BluesKaj: I'm in the same boat, "just here to fix stuff", only I've made the job easier ;)
[16:59] <BluesKaj> _unreal_, I'm well paid :)
[17:00] <_unreal_> lol my daughter 5yo just said are you kidding me? and I said no I dont have to your already a kid... heheheheh she thought about that for a few
[17:00] <hermy0123> Is this chatrom also unde surveillance?
[17:00] <jhutchins> OC39648: When you put an image on a drive it overwrites the format, so that doesn't matter.  Did you run unetbootin on Windows or Linux?  Do you have a linux systme available?  Which iso did you use?  Did you verify it's checksum?
[17:00] <_unreal_> define surveillance
[17:01] <usr13> jhutchins: OC39648 Ubuntu ISOs are hybrid
[17:01] <OC39648> Right, Window, No, x64, yes.
[17:01] <hermy0123> Scrutiny from the powers that be, srveilance ...excuse the orthograph...
[17:01] <jhutchins> hermy0123: This channel is mostly fellow users who are interested in solving problems or waiting for their own question to be answered by someone.
[17:01] <jhutchins> usr13: Yes, I know that.
[17:02] <usr13> jhutchins: so there's no need for unetbootin
[17:02] <usr13> ... just seems to be  cleaner, neater to dd
[17:03] <usr13> It is slower but...
[17:03] <jhutchins> usr13: Only if you have a working linux install.
[17:03] <hermy0123>  j...ins
[17:03] <jhutchins> usr13: It's not slower if done correctly, unetbootin just offers a handy GUI.
[17:04] <_unreal_> how do I go about setting up power management for my harddrives to spin down
[17:04] <usr13> jhutchins: rawwrite?
[17:05] <usr13> jhutchins: Been a long time, but doesn't rawwrite do the same thing?
[17:05] <jhutchins> usr13: It is a windows program that writes images.  The last version I used only did floppies.
[17:06] <usr13> jhutchins: Oh, ok.  Well, it's been a long time. Sorry...
[17:06] <adamSs> Hi all. trying to cp a folders contents, but hidden files starting with a . are not being copied. Any suggestions? Thanks all!
[17:06] <usr13> adamSs: man cp
[17:07] <brainproxy> this doesn't seem to do what I was expecting: `apt-get remove -y --auto-remove autoconf automake build-essential`
[17:07] <pi_> sudo sp
[17:07] <pi_> sudo cp
[17:07] <brainproxy> that is, after running that command, gcc is still installed
[17:08] <jhutchins> pi_: Not relevant.
[17:08] <usr13> brainproxy: Maybe you are trying to do too many things at once
[17:08] <usr13> brainproxy: but gcc should be still installed
[17:09] <usr13> *should* be
[17:09] <hermy0123> I got a few linux distro from an individual on ebay and most of them have trouble with "synching" what's that?
[17:09] <adamSs> man synching
[17:09] <brainproxy> usr13: doesn't build-essential install it? and so wouldn't removing build-essential remove gcc?
[17:10] <bekks> brainproxy: of course gcc will still be installed. Remove it directly, since too much dependencies will still pull it in.
[17:10] <usr13> brainproxy: gcc is installed by default.
[17:10] <bekks> brainproxy: This applies to "if you really want to do that". I dont see a single reason for removing gcc.
[17:10] <usr13> afaik
[17:10] <samthewildone> to copy a text from /var/log/syslog I did this " cat /var/log/syslog -> /home/user/Desktop/text.txt" yet terminal hangs.
[17:10] <SNAFUdowser> eeee, Hey so I'm doing the minimal install, but I want to make sure it gives me options for customizing my partitions and stuff.  Where in this install will I make custom partitions?  I don't wanna hit install and then it blindly overwrites one of my HDDs.
[17:10] <samthewildone> Is there something I'm missing ?
[17:10] <brainproxy> bekks: well on the system I'm starting from, it's not installed
[17:10] <brainproxy> so I install build-essential to pull it in
[17:11] <bekks> brainproxy: So whats the "system you use" then?
[17:11] <jhutchins> samthewildone: Patience?  How long did you give it?  How big is the log?
[17:12] <brainproxy> bekks: the ubuntu docker image
[17:12] <brainproxy> which is a bare bones ubuntu 14.04
[17:12] <samthewildone> I canceled the first one, did another one and letting it run its course.
[17:12] <usr13> samthewildone: Why are you doint that?
[17:12] <eeee> samthewildone: it's something you added, it's the -> , it should be >
[17:12] <samthewildone> usr13, to post a help on ubuntu forum.
[17:12] <bekks> brainproxy: Ah I see. And why do you want to remove gcc then, after installing it?
[17:12] <red45923> i moved a working ubuntu hard disk to a different laptop and it all works except there is no wifi - i am guessing it did an auto install for the original networking hardware and now cannot find it - any tips to fix this
[17:12] <eeee> ( or >> to append )
[17:12] <samthewildone> ok
[17:12] <usr13> samthewildone: So why not just pastebinit
[17:12] <usr13> ?
[17:12] <brainproxy> bekks: because I don't need it in my derived image, after I've used it to compile some stuff
[17:13] <bekks> brainproxy: So uninstall it.
[17:13] <pussy-f> hi all
[17:13] <usr13> samthewildone: What you are trying to do would be a never ending process.
[17:13] <pussy-f> :)
[17:13] <samthewildone> usr13, I am
[17:13] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: never done it before, but i think it should ask where to install, and you'd select Something else, to partition as you see fit
[17:13] <samthewildone> usr13, I'm just getting a documented file first.
[17:13] <jhutchins> eeee: Well spotted
[17:13] <brainproxy> bekks: yes, I agree; my point was that it seemed like if I installed indirectly (by way of build-essential), then uninstalling build-essential seems like it should take care of it
[17:13] <brainproxy> but it doesn't
[17:14] <samthewildone> looks like I'm going to have to upload the file to my google drive and link the doc from there.
[17:14] <SNAFUdowser> eeee, Yeah I think I found a youtube video of someone going through it.  It should prompt your right, but just worried if it didn't it would be so bad lol.  I'll just try it out.
[17:14] <brainproxy> so I was wondering if I'm missing something w.r.t. uninstalling an umbrella pkg like build-essential
[17:14] <samthewildone> The file is too large to post on pastebin
[17:14] <harris> how do i fix the sudo sed 's/Icon=.*/Icon=\home/\harris\/icons\/libreoffice-writer.svg/g' -i /usr/share/applications/libreoffice-writer.desktop
[17:14] <usr13> samthewildone: So why not just copy the file?
[17:14] <harris> unknown value s
[17:14] <jhutchins> brainproxy: build-essential may not be what installed it.
[17:14] <pussy-f> http://www.namerimi.org
[17:14] <bekks> brainproxy: So you could check whats still pulling it in.
[17:14] <usr13> samthewildone: And then do what you want with it?
[17:14] <brainproxy> jhutchins: it most certainly is
[17:14] <samthewildone> usr13, I attempted that but, pastebin would not let me paste the stuff
[17:14] <samthewildone> usr13, smell it and rub it
[17:15] <jhutchins> brainproxy: It's a pretty common dependency.  build-essential is a metapackage not a real package, so it doesn't behave quite the same way.
[17:15] <red45923> anyone have a suggestion to fix my ubuntu wifi
[17:15] <usr13> samthewildone: WHat?
[17:15] <brainproxy> jhutchins: okay, so is there a way for apt-get to spit out the list of the pkgs includes in a metapackage
[17:15] <brainproxy> *included
[17:15] <samthewildone> I'm going to post it in the ubuntu help forum because this is the 2nd installation of ubuntu and I still have random applications crashes... its very annoying.
[17:15] <usr13> red45923: What's wrong with it?
[17:16] <red45923> usr13, - like i said i moved a working ubuntu hard disk to a different laptop and it all works except there is no wifi - i am guessing it did an auto install for the original networking hardware and now cannot find it - any tips to fix this
[17:16] <bekks> brainproxy: a metapackage does not contain a single package. it pulls in dependencies.
[17:16] <samthewildone> I just reinstalled ubuntu; latest, this morning and I still get applications crashes from time to time.
[17:16] <brainproxy> bekks: gotcha
[17:16] <jhutchins> usr13: Good point usr13 - cp would make more sense.
[17:16] <usr13> samthewildone: You should find the specific problem...
[17:16] <red45923> so basically now thre is no wifi available - lan works, usb dongle works, no wifi though
[17:16] <brainproxy> bekks: is there a way to get a list of the deps it pulls in?
[17:16] <samthewildone> usr13, that's just the problem.
[17:17] <usr13> red45923: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:17] <samthewildone> usr13, I get detailed dialogues but, it does not look like I can copy the dialog and post it anywhere.
[17:17] <samthewildone> For starters that all seem to have the same error about SIG*.
[17:17] <bekks> brainproxy: just take a look at the reverse dependencies of gcc: apt-cache rdepends gcc
[17:17] <usr13> samthewildone: cp /var/log/syslog /home/user/Desktop/text.txt
[17:18] <brainproxy> bekks: thanks
[17:18] <samthewildone> usr13, Of course the crashes don't affect my ability to use the computer but, they are annoying when your doing some web browsing and get a error box.
[17:18] <usr13> samthewildone: Oh, you are annoyed by the crash reports?
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> ah, those, I get those occasionally
[17:19] <samthewildone> usr13, yes very annoyed.
[17:19] <red45923> what does sudo apt-get upgrade do , i am running 12.04 and all is fine aside from wifi
[17:19] <SchrodingersScat> red45923: should upgrade packages installed via apt/synaptic/software center/etc.
[17:19] <samthewildone> usr13, because first of all I cannot seem to fix them. They're random and I hate random crashes.
[17:19] <eeee> samthewildone: sudo nano /etc/default/apport
[17:19] <eeee> samthewildone: set enabled to 0
[17:19] <SchrodingersScat> red45923: normally a sudo apt-get update # would precede it to update your software lists
[17:19] <hermy0123> Redxxx stay away from version 14.04!
[17:20] <jhutchins> red45923: Probably does nothing.  What you actually need to do is to figure out what wifi chipset you have and what it needs to run on ubuntu.  It might need firmware, which the installer wouldn't have known about because the wifi wasn't there.
[17:20] <samthewildone> yuk
[17:20] <jhutchins> red45923: dmesg will show an error trying to find the firmware in that case.
[17:20] <samthewildone> eeee, vim FTW
[17:20] <bekks> hermy0123: Why?
[17:20] <eeee> samthewildone: lol, ok
[17:20] <jhutchins> red45923: Or you can just find the chipset ID and look up what it needs.
[17:20] <bekks> hermy0123: Its the latest supported LTS.
[17:20] <samthewildone> eeee, I'm assuming that this hides those errors...
[17:20] <eeee> what does vim stand for again ? :P
[17:20] <usr13> eeee: I think it is vi
[17:20] <samthewildone> Virtual Image Man
[17:21] <usr13> Oh I dono
[17:21] <red45923> jhutchins, yes that was my hunch too, not keen on going away from 12.04 unless i have to
[17:21] <eeee> samthewildone: yes
[17:21] <hermy0123> It is fraught with bugs and I actually got a warning from the VA?!?
[17:21] <jhutchins> hermy0123: VA?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> vim means "vi more"
[17:21] <_unreal_> what is the best way to make a backup of my computer?
[17:22] <usr13> or improved?
[17:22] <samthewildone> eeee, So I'm assuming that I won't get any dialogs about the crashes...
[17:22] <jhutchins> !backup
[17:22] <usr13> IMproved
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !backup | _unreal_
[17:22] <hermy0123> VA for Veterams' Affair... YES!
[17:22] <samthewildone> usr13, thanks
[17:22] <samthewildone> eeee, thanks
[17:22] <pussy> руг ето този http://www.namerimi.org
[17:22] <red45923> ok, will look for the network details for this laptop and see where that takes me, tx, will prob need some more help soon :)
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> pussy  did you have a support question?
[17:22] <eeee> usr13: actually VI iMproved, but whatever
[17:23] <jhutchins> red45923: lspci should show you what you're working with.  lspci -nn gives you the pciid of the device which can be useful.
[17:24] <usr13> eeee: Yea, I think there is only a difference because some liked the old feature set
[17:24] <red45923> think i got a poss answer - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067161
[17:25] <usr13> eeee: So if you install vi and then vim, vi just becomes a link to vim
[17:25] <usr13> eeee: At least that is the way it works on most linux systems nowdays
[17:26] <usr13> eeee: Used to be that they were two separate apps, not so any more...
[17:26] <hermy0123> OK community, now thaT i KNOW THAT i CAN GET EXPERTS RECOMMENDATIONS AND HELP IN HERE, i WILL COME BACK OFTEN AS i A
[17:26] <eeee> usr13: i see
[17:26] <hermy0123> Sorry for the CAPS... not yelling...
[17:27] <hermy0123> Got to go; siesta time...
[17:27] <usr13> hermy0123: Yea, I've often wondered why you can't seem to find a keybord without CapsLock
[17:29] <eeee> usr13: i stand corrected though, it seems to be officially called Vi IMproved though
[17:32] <zaggynl> so uh, I broke something, my caps lock key is on but I'm not typing in caps, not pressing shift either.
[17:33] <Lubit> ciaooooooo
[17:33] <zaggynl> LIST
[17:33] <Lubit> quale rom avete?
[17:34] <Kireji> what writes the file /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available ?
[17:35] <Kireji> http://askubuntu.com/questions/49958/how-to-find-the-number-of-packages-needing-update-from-the-command-line says it is /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available but that doesn't exist on 12.04.5
[17:36] <Frenzo> What is this peculiar series of events? I am very intrigued by the idea of freenode's freedom policy but this is not some Ronald Reagan fanbase where all your sins will be washed off like an american college wonder.
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Frenzo  wrong channel
[17:38] <trism> Kireji: /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available is a script that writes to that file with the output of apt-check
[17:38] <trism> Kireji: that is run on login by /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available
[17:39] <trism> Kireji: I'm not sure why it wouldn't exist on 12.04, unless you don't have update-notifier-common installed, I suppose it might have had a slightly different name back then I don't really remember
[17:41] <Kireji> trism: checking - thank you
[17:43] <Kireji> trism: wierd, somehow it was removed
[17:54] <SNAFUdowser> Hey how do you choose where to install the Grub Bootloader during a minimal installation?
[17:54] <ikonia> you don't
[17:54] <ikonia> by minimal do you mean the minimal iso ?
[17:55] <SNAFUdowser> ikonia: Yeah minimal iso
[17:55] <ikonia> SNAFUdowser: that expects you to know what you are doing and configure your system appropriately
[17:55] <jhutchins> SNAFUdowser: MBR of the device.
[17:55] <SNAFUdowser> jhutchins: Perfect gotcha
[17:56] <SNAFUdowser> Damnit!  Didn't work :'(
[17:56] <ikonia> SNAFUdowser: why are you doing a minimal install ?
[17:56] <ikonia> SNAFUdowser: what is wrong with the standard install ?
[17:57] <SNAFUdowser> ikonia: I'm getting a black screen on my normal install so this way I can install it without using the GPU.
[17:57] <ikonia> SNAFUdowser: that is not the solution
[17:57] <SNAFUdowser> nomodeset didn't work
[17:57] <ikonia> SNAFUdowser: there are more options than "nomodeset"
[17:57] <SNAFUdowser> ikonia: Like what?
[17:58] <ikonia> the minimal install expects a reasonable level of knowledge to know what packages do what and how to configure them
[17:58] <ikonia> SNAFUdowser: you can try to force vesa, you can blacklist the noveau drivers,
[17:58] <ikonia> SNAFUdowser: there are other options,
[17:59] <y3gang> hmm
[18:00] <SNAFUdowser> ikonia: Cool.  I was asking about this earlier on here and minimal install was the only solution I got so that's why I was doing it.  I've got a GTX 760 so you think I should use force vesa, or blacklist noveau?
[18:00] <ikonia> no idea without doing the research and understanding your problem, but they are certainly options
[18:06] <SNAFUdowser> ikonia: OK.... well.... I'm not sure how to proceed seeing as I've done research and it looks to me like nomodeset and disconnecting the GPU are the main fixes. Now I can't say those are the only options but I don't know any others from doing a bunch of Google searches.  So... if you want I can tell you what my issue is and you can give me pointers or... I'll continue guessing and possibly try to get the minimal install working.
[18:08] <SNAFUdowser> Btw I've installed arch linux before so doing the minimal install isn't so impossible for me to understand.  Or maybe it is but idk what else I should do honestly.  I'll keep trying!
[18:11] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: try to use nomodeset nolapic
[18:12] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: Yeah I've tried it. >.<
[18:12] <eeee> with nolapic as well?
[18:12] <SNAFUdowser> Yeah
[18:12] <SNAFUdowser> But it might be that I need to use the "try ubuntu without intalling it" option, which I realize I didn't use before
[18:13] <c_smith_> Hey, is there any current guide to remove Unity in 14.04?
[18:13] <SNAFUdowser> Would that cause a problem?  I didn't think it would before but I realize that is one difference between what I was doing and what they suggest to solve the problem in this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[18:13] <unicornjedi> hello, which channel could I go to for help in assembly language?
[18:13] <eeee> !notunity | c_smith_
[18:14] <eeee> c_smith_: nevermind
[18:14] <eeee> unicornjedi: #asm ?
[18:14] <c_smith_> eeee, hmmmm..... didn't know that function of ubottu
[18:14] <unicornjedi> eeee, thanks bra
[18:14] <Beldar> c_smith_, Unity itself is quite tiny, what desktop do you want or are using?
[18:15] <ashva> Hi, I've installed ubuntu 14.04 on my new lenovo x1 carbon 2014. everything is working fine but CPUs. it only recognizes 4 CPUs !!! actually I have core i7 cpu and don't know what is the reason. can somebody help me on this?
[18:15] <c_smith_> eeee, I've got MATE 1.9 built and installed, (did that myself), I'm just doing some cleanup
[18:15] <c_smith_> Beldar, ^
[18:16] <eeee> ashva: why do you think it recognizes only 4?
[18:16] <Beldar> c_smith_, Not sure but isn't mate a gnome 2 or 3 fork?
[18:16] <Hrishi> ashva : How many does your CPU has?
[18:16] <eeee> i7 should have 8 i think
[18:16] <ashva> eeee: lscpu and htop
[18:16] <eeee> mine does dunno if all do
[18:16] <c_smith_> Beldar, yes, Gnome 2 fork, 1.9 adds support for GTK+ 3.
[18:17] <c_smith_> Beldar, think the instructions at https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative would be decent?
[18:17] <ashva> eeee: in lscpu output => CPU(s):                4
[18:17] <eeee> ashva: i see, i get 8 there
[18:18] <ashva> eeee: yes but I get 4 there!
[18:19] <Beldar> c_smith_, unity sits on top of gnome 3 so in the end it's your plan, my self I would just leave it.
[18:19] <eeee> ashva: grep motherboard | /var/log/syslog
[18:20] <Hrishi> ashva , eeee : Checked out on the Internet. it says i7 9xx versions have 4 CPUs.
[18:21] <SNAFUdowser> OK so it looks like minimal install is the best option right now.  So the partition configuration I want is, one sdb I want swap, and /.  And then on sdc3 I want /home.  I set this up in the partition manager, but then it asked me for where to put grub, should I write dev/sdb?  That should be the MBR  of that hdd.  That should work right?
[18:21] <c_smith_> Beldar, ah, alright
[18:22] <ashva> Hrishi: thanks for reply. actually I had windows installed before installing ubunut and over there I have 8 cores!!
[18:22] <eeee> ashva: anything? try cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep i7
[18:22] <eeee> ashva: also the grep command
[18:23] <ashva> eeee: only  4* model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4550U CPU @ 1.50GHz
[18:24] <eeee> ok, what about the grep motherboard /var/log/syslog ?
[18:25] <ashva> eeee: nothing
[18:27] <eeee> ashva: ok try grep -A20 i7 /var/log/syslog
[18:27] <eeee> see what's there
[18:27] <usr13> SNAFUdowser: You want grub written to the drive you boot to, (sda right?), unless you want to choose from bios.
[18:28] <eeee> if you want to paste use pastebinit, otherwise let us know if you find something interesting
[18:28] <pi_> cat syslog | grep motherboard .-)
[18:28] <usr13> SNAFUdowser: So if you choose sda, you automatically get the option of which OS to boot each time your PC starts up.
[18:29] <SNAFUdowser> usr13: Well I think I'll boot from sdb normally because I have another bootloader installed on sda for OSx/windows.  I'm just going to make the boot order sdb first.  But yeah that's basically it.
[18:30] <usr13> pi_: grep motherboard syslog  ?
[18:30] <pi_> anyway
[18:32] <dididodo> hi ... i just upgraded my eeepc and since then the mobile broadband stick can not connect to the internet. the stick is there in lsusb and it is also not a modeswitch issue. there is just no ppp0 interface showing up. any idea?
[18:33] <ashva> eeee: you know what, everything here is filtered. can you introduce me a paste in site?
[18:33] <eeee> ashva: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:34] <eeee> then grep -A20 i7 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[18:36] <ashva> eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8272387/
[18:36] <ashva> eeee: thanks alot
[18:36] <eeee> np
[18:37] <ashva> eeee: !?
[18:38] <eeee> np, no problem
[18:39] <ashva> eeee: so what do you think? do I only have 4 cores of cpus?
[18:40] <phunyguy> does anyone have a working ubuntu 14.04 autologin with immediate screenlock?  If so... HOW?
[18:41] <SNAFUdowser> eeee:  Woot!  OK!  Life is good!  I got it installed!!!  However, now I still have the black screen problem.  But this time I can actually install drivers to fix it!  So I should follow those steps that you outlined before right?  For fixing black screen on bootup
[18:41] <jrcharney> Hello. I have a trifecta of problems that I know the solution does not include "Restart the computer" as that is NOT the solution.
[18:42] <usr13> ashva: Yes.  grep name /proc/cpuinfo
[18:42] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: yeah, nomodeset
[18:43] <ashva> eeee: 4*model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4550U CPU @ 1.50GHz
[18:43] <jrcharney> Problem 1 of 3: Why doesn't the sound settings stay at "HDMI / DisplayPort 2" when the computer wakes up from either a suspend or just dimming the screen to save energy?
[18:43] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: Sweet thanks again.
[18:43] <eeee> np
[18:44] <jrcharney> Problem 2 of 3: Why doesn't Bluetooth work on my computer anymore? Bluetooth settings do not respond in any GUI.
[18:45] <jrcharney> Problem 3 of 3: The most important one. Why doesn't Wifi work on my computer anymore?  I put the computer to sleep and it never came back on, not even when I went into any of the GUI stuff.
[18:45] <jrcharney> I'm no where need a ethernet cable. I'm typing this on another computer.
[18:45] <usr13> jrcharney: iwconfig  #What does that say?
[18:47] <RoBo_V> hey guys, how can I add Ubuntu user to samba share. Working on alll windows but when in ubuntu it says no privilleges
[18:47] <ashva> eeee: So it seems it only has 4 cores of cpu. it so strange for a core i7 cpu
[18:48] <eeee> ashva: yeah, i'm trying to find the specs
[18:48] <samikrimi> slm
[18:49] <jrcharney> usr13: eth0, eth1, and lo no wireless extensions.  Prior to my most recent wakup, wlan0 said the same thing.  Now it says the following:   IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID: off/any  Mode: Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated  Tx-Power=27 dBm  Retry  long limit:7  RTS thr: off  Fragment thr: off  Power Management: off
[18:49] <usr13> ashva: Core i7 is a Quad Core processor line
[18:50] <usr13> ashva: Core i5 is a Dual Core processor line
[18:50] <eeee> usr13: i have 8 cores, i found that some have 4, even 2
[18:50] <usr13> jrcharney: Are you using network manager?
[18:51] <ashva> usr13: thanks's for reply. well you mean the outout of lscpu is correct
[18:51] <jrcharney> usr13: `lspci | grep -i wireless` returns 03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:51] <ashva> usr13: actually I previously had a vaio laptop this a core i7 CPU with 8 cores of cpu
[18:51] <jrcharney> usr13: Where is that?
[18:52] <jrcharney> System settings > Network?
[18:52] <ashva> eeee: Yes my previous laptop had 8 cores of cpu
[18:53] <usr13> eeee: ashva Well, I dono but that was the impression I got from it all.... I may be wrong...
[18:53] <lonewulf85> Hey I had 14.04 on my pc then downgraded it to 12.04 (because I like it better) now compiz does not function properly any help.
[18:53] <usr13> jrcharney: yes
[18:54] <aoxi> hi there. within the last three days ive noticed different behavior when my session is inactive for the defined amount of time. xscreensaver and the power manager settings are set to only put display to sleep and not lock the session. yet now, the session is getting locked.
[18:55] <aoxi> i looked through recently updated packages but dont see anything relevant to report a bug to. i thought maybe systemd/pam stuff but after persuing the bug fixes related to the update, they didnt seem relevant, and to be honest, i dont know enough about their interaction with xscreensaver to know for sure that might be the packages at fault
[18:55] <jrcharney> usr13: I have it open now.  Airplane Mode is off. Wireless is selected. My home wireless network is listed but its status is "Out of range".  I click on the orange ">" it syas it is unmangaged.  Only the Hardware Address is listed.
[18:55] <aoxi> so i am wondering, if anyone else has had this issue, if there are any known bug reports for it, or if someone could point me in the right direction as to filing a bug report for the most likely package responsible for this unintended behavioral change
[18:56] <jrcharney> I've now clicked on the "Settings..." button
[18:57] <ashva> eeee, usr13, thank you very much for you time. you both are right. I only have 4 core sof CPU
[18:57] <jrcharney> I'm browsing though all the tabs "General, Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi Security, IPv4 Settings, IPv6 Settings".  Everything looks normal
[18:57] <jrcharney> Still no connection
[18:58] <eeee> ashva: np
[18:58] <usr13> jrcharney: "looks normal" is subjective
[18:58] <usr13> jrcharney: ping router.ip
[18:59] <usr13> jrcharney: route -n  #Router's IP?
[18:59] <jrcharney> usr13: Just a second, I need to remember what my router IP number is
[19:01] <jrcharney> usr13: connect: Network is unreachable
[19:03] <aoxi> i just realised its not actually an xscreensaver lock as that looks different. what i am seeing is the prompt as ifi  were logging in, but it unlocks the session
[19:04] <jrcharney> usr13: I tried adding an http:// to the begining of the IP address and got "ping: unknown host http://192.168.1.254"  methinks, the version without the http:// part is more correct
[19:05] <jrcharney> still offline btw
[19:07] <jrcharney> anyone still here?
[19:11] <razi_> HI
[19:12]  * jrcharney thinks IRC may have just gone through a tunnel
[19:12] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, what is your problem
[19:14] <CaLdeRoN> .
[19:14] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, i can't help you if you don't tell me what your problem is
[19:14] <CaLdeRoN> sie amk cocugu
[19:14] <grobe0ba> CaLdeRoN, english, please
[19:14] <sapik> what
[19:15] <CaLdeRoN> ok
[19:15] <CaLdeRoN> .)
[19:16] <wall3d> Hello team Ubuntu!
[19:16] <jrcharney> usr13: you still there?
[19:16] <maddawg2> we aint a team
[19:16] <wall3d> fair enough
[19:17] <Muchachao> hi guys, which tool to use to edit keyboard behavior?
[19:17] <wall3d> an informed mass
[19:17] <maddawg2> i dont even know half of them
[19:17] <maddawg2> more than half
[19:17] <aoxi> fyi, i found the solution. the problem was with light-locker not having its default settings applied to the autostart configuration on default installation or upgrade
[19:17] <_2_Chopin4453> ok
[19:17] <Krakkos> there's no 'me' in team... no, wait
[19:17] <aoxi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker-settings/+bug/1306917
[19:17] <sapik> Muchachao, like shortcut?
[19:18] <maddawg2> oh no... it's 3:17 and i havent gotten out of bed yet
[19:18] <maddawg2> yikes
[19:18] <_2_Chopin4453> stop sending me lots of messages
[19:18] <RoBo_V> trying to add ubuntu user to my samba share folder, working on windows though. But on Ubuntu saying 'no permissions'... tried adding user says 'Failed to add entry for user'
[19:19] <Muchachao> sapik, I would like to change the CAPS-LOCK key into CTRL for my own convenience
[19:19] <wall3d> Why would package 'openjdk-7-jre-headless' depend on 'ca-certificates-java' when 'ca-certificates-java' depends on 'openjdk-7-jre-headless'?
[19:20] <atlasloewenherz> hi everyone
[19:20] <Krakkos> yo
[19:20] <tuhinkarmakar> atlasloewenherz: Hello.
[19:21] <atlasloewenherz> anyone of you running 14.04 and having problem with aptitude not able to deal with multiarch dependencies ? amd64 and i386 ?
[19:21] <tuhinkarmakar> Hrishi: Hello.
[19:21] <sapik> Muchachao, maybe keymaps is the answer. i'm reading the man pages now
[19:24] <Muchachao> how to change from su to normal user?
[19:25] <sapik> Muchachao, type exit
[19:25] <sapik> or logout
[19:25] <Muchachao> sapik, thank you very much?
[19:25] <Muchachao> sapik, i mean !!!
[19:27] <harris> eeee,  my script changes the line of the icons to the right location but the icons change to the gear not the custom icon
[19:30] <jrcharney> usr13: You still here buddy?
[19:31] <sapik> Muchachao, you can do it with xmodmap. let me read more about it.
[19:31] <uRock> After installing Nemo, should I keep Nautilus installed or remove it?
[19:31] <jrcharney> usr13: You still here buddy?
[19:31] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, for the third time, _what is your problem_?
[19:32] <harris> eeee,  you here
[19:32] <satelite_> hello
[19:33] <uRock> !hello
[19:33] <jrcharney> Three problems, grobe0ba. But the one I was working on with usr13 may have been derailed by the netspilt, so I'll try to restate them.
[19:33] <jrcharney> Problem 1 of 3: Why doesn't the sound settings stay at "HDMI / DisplayPort 2" when the computer wakes up from either a suspend or just dimming the screen to save energy?
[19:33] <jrcharney> Problem 2 of 3: Why doesn't Bluetooth work on my computer anymore? Bluetooth settings do not respond in any GUI.
[19:34] <jrcharney> Problem 3 of 3: The most important one. Why doesn't Wifi work on my computer anymore?  I put the computer to sleep and it never came back on, not even when I went into any of the GUI stuff.
[19:34] <grobe0ba> have you tried rebooting?
[19:34] <jrcharney> grobe0ba: none of these problems can be resolved by rebooting
[19:34] <jrcharney> They will still happen after rebooting
[19:34] <grobe0ba> so, you put your computer to sleep, and your wifi wont work?
[19:35] <grobe0ba> even after rebooting or shutting down completely?
[19:35] <jon1012> bwah the only suitable position template_hook that is nearly everywhere is persona_form
[19:35] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, despite the greatly improved suspend/resume capablities in linux these days, i still find that they tend to cause problems.
[19:35] <eeee> jrcharney: for the wifi, if you press ctrl+alt+f1, do you see a bunch of error msgs? ctrl+alt+f7 brings you back to the desktop
[19:35] <jrcharney> I've put up with them for some time, but once Wifi went out and didn't come back on, that's when I came here
[19:36] <grobe0ba> oh good, someone who uses ubuntu. jrcharney, talk to eeee
[19:36] <jon1012> is it firty to add an hook to template_context_prerender to understand where the user currently us, then check for a value added to the template context to add some UI elements according to the deducted page ?
[19:36] <jon1012> dirty*
[19:36] <jon1012> oops wrong chan
[19:37] <jrcharney> eeee: No. Infact that never happens
[19:38] <jrcharney> grobe0ba: The solution is Not "Don't use Suspend", that only kicks the can down the road
[19:38] <eeee> jrcharney: ok, well my wifi went off after a hard reboot once, and it started erroring out on the tty, a cold reboot fixed it (shutdown the pc, remove the battery for a bit, then boot)
[19:38] <jrcharney> And problems 1, 2, and 3 still happen anyway
[19:38] <eeee> jrcharney: might be worth a shot
[19:38] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, go talk to eeee. my solution for crap like that, is don't do it. i also don't even use linux anymore
[19:38] <grobe0ba> because it's basically gone down the crap, imho
[19:39] <grobe0ba> i'm right back to my BSDs
[19:39] <jrcharney> eeee: the solution is NOT restarting. Restarting DOES NOT FIX the problem.  I've done it it sitll exits.
[19:39] <eeee> jrcharney: did you read the part about removing the battery?
[19:40] <jrcharney> I'm not using a laptop
[19:40] <jrcharney> In fact, removing the battery, if this was a laptop would be as irrelevant as conducting brain surgury on a person who just had a heart attack
[19:40] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, no, it wouldn't
[19:41] <eeee> jrcharney: well, funny you say so, it fixed my issue
[19:41] <grobe0ba> it can in fact cause capacitors to discharge, sometimes helping things
[19:41] <atlasloewenherz> where do i find aptitude's logs in 14.04 ?
[19:41] <eeee> and somebody told me to do it, and said he bet it was the issue
[19:41] <eeee> after reviewing a ton of logs
[19:41] <eeee> jrcharney: anyways, good luck!
[19:41] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, since you obviously aren't willing take any advice, i would suggest you just go back to windows. you seem to have the mentality for it.
[19:43] <jrcharney> Oh, don't give me that "cognitave disdance" crap.  A few minutes ago, I was chatting with someone whose answer was not that of a reddit user.  Giving up for losers.
[19:43] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, ah, but at least the losers can spell.
[19:43] <rww> can we cut it out with the unhelpful attitudes? thanks.
[19:43] <jrcharney> When I say "REBOOTING DOES NOT WORK" I mean "REBOOTING DOESN'T FREAKING WORK!"
[19:44] <sapik> rebooting ubuntu?
[19:44] <eeee> jrcharney: ok, for the record you could turn the power supply off, i don't think it would work
[19:44] <eeee> it was just a suggestion
[19:45] <sapik> does shutdown works jrcharney ?
[19:45]  * jrcharney smacks eee and grobe0ba upside the head
[19:45] <Guest88723> :jrcharney: don't worry! this type of rage is very common for people in the process of abstaining from windows & it *will* pass, with time and perseverance :-)
[19:46] <Guest88723> be strong & learn zen & the art of I.T problem solving to achieve transcendance...
[19:46] <jrcharney> I'm not here to fix a power problem.  Let me restate the three problems I'm having that Rebooting, shutting down, or even tossing the computer out the freaking window will now work:
[19:47] <jrcharney> Problem 1 of 3: Why doesn't the sound settings stay at "HDMI / DisplayPort 2" when the computer wakes up from either a suspend or just dimming the screen to save energy?
[19:47] <jrcharney> Problem 2 of 3: Why doesn't Bluetooth work on my computer anymore? Bluetooth settings do not respond in any GUI.
[19:47] <jrcharney> Problem 3 of 3: The most important one. Why doesn't Wifi work on my computer anymore?  I put the computer to sleep and it never came back on, not even when I went into any of the GUI stuff.
[19:47] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, have you tried using iwconfig?
[19:48] <grobe0ba> or tried restarting NM>
[19:48] <grobe0ba> *NM?
[19:48] <jrcharney> grobe0ba: iwconfig only shows the status of my wifi devices
[19:48] <grobe0ba> iwconfig <--- it also configures them
[19:49] <grobe0ba> try stopping NM and configuring with iwconfig and see if it connects
[19:49] <sapik> laptop or pc, jrcharney?
[19:49] <grobe0ba> sapik, not laptop
[19:49] <sapik> oh ok
[19:49] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, have you actually looked at any logs?
[19:50] <jrcharney> Earilier all of the devices said "no wirless extensions"
[19:50] <grobe0ba> interesting.
[19:50] <jrcharney> later wlan0 started showing the following again:  IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID: off/any  Mode: Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated  Tx-Power=27 dBm  Retry  long limit:7  RTS thr: off  Fragment thr: off  Power Management: off
[19:50] <SNAFUdowser> Hey how can I disable the current graphics drivers that are installed, and then install the correct drivers for my nvidia graphics card?  (in the terminal) I was following this tutorial: http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/ but I think I messed something up while doing it because next time I tried to boot it would hang on the start screen with just a cursor.  Thxxx
[19:50] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, check /var/log/messages
[19:50] <grobe0ba> might be something in there
[19:50] <_unreal_> any one ever tried to install a drawing tablet? I got one of these bamboo tablets and I cant get it to work
[19:50] <grobe0ba> also, try restarting networkmanager
[19:51] <grobe0ba> that might bring it back to life
[19:51] <jrcharney> /var/log/messages does not exist
[19:51] <eeee> jrcharney: i think grobe0ba means /var/log/syslog, and sudo service network-manager restart , is the command he's referring to
[19:51] <grobe0ba> when the hell did they change it away from messages?
[19:52] <grobe0ba> bloody stupid.
[19:54] <jrcharney> sudo: services: command not found
[19:54] <jrcharney> There is no service called network-manager
[19:54] <jrcharney> There is no service called networkmanager either
[19:55] <grobe0ba> yeah, the command is 'service'
[19:55] <grobe0ba> no s
[19:55] <eeee> ^^
[19:55] <grobe0ba> try initctl list | grep net
[19:55] <sapik> NetworkManager
[19:55] <grobe0ba> ^ what sapik said, then
[19:56] <grobe0ba> sudo service NetworkManager restart
[19:56] <eeee> no, it's network-manager
[19:56] <grobe0ba> somebody check bloody check initctl
[19:56] <grobe0ba> i don't have anything to check on
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> grobe0ba  drop the word bloody please
[19:57] <jrcharney> network0manager stop/wating
[19:58] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, you did service restart?
[19:58] <eeee> i think that's the initctl list
[19:58] <grobe0ba> MonkeyDust, just ban me. it's simpler like that.
[19:58] <eeee> jrcharney: well, that's your issue, sudo service network-manager start
[19:58] <grobe0ba> eeee, could be, but service will do that to sometimes
[19:58] <michal__> hello
[19:58] <ampy> yoooo
[19:59] <jrcharney> network-manager start/running, process 29639
[19:59] <jrcharney> wifi is still not working
[19:59] <jrcharney> I could do the same thing for bluetooth and get the same results.  No working.
[19:59] <jrcharney> `initctl list | grep net` returns nothing
[19:59] <ampy> So I don't know what happened, but I was messing around with groups and I ended up making it so that I'm not in the sudoers file
[19:59] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, yeah, i shoudlve said grep -i
[19:59] <ampy> and now I can't fix anything because i don't have permissions
[19:59] <grobe0ba> but don't worry about it
[19:59] <grobe0ba> it is irrelephant now
[19:59] <ampy> what do?
[20:00] <eeee> ampy: grub > recovery
[20:00] <jrcharney> lag finally let up on the IRC
[20:00] <atlasloewenherz> this is a new installation of 14.04 server edition and the first thing i'm facing is dependencies conflicts that have there root in multi arch support  apt-cache show libc-bin => https://gist.github.com/atlasloewenherz/5f4d554e675cb1c72b47
[20:00] <jrcharney> `initctl list | grep -i net` returns nothing
[20:00] <atlasloewenherz> it seems that the multi arch support is broken
[20:01] <ampy> eeee thanks
[20:01] <grobe0ba> jrcharney, weird. oh well. it still doesn't matter
[20:01] <eeee> ampy: np
[20:01] <grobe0ba> so, network-manager is running
[20:01] <grobe0ba> no networks listed in the gui?
[20:01] <jrcharney> grobe0ba: no. it's just as broke as ever
[20:01] <grobe0ba> hmmm
[20:02] <eeee> ampy: you'll need to drop to a root shell, if that doesn't work add init=/bin/bash to your grub cmdline and execute it, undo the changes
[20:02] <grobe0ba> did you check /var/log/syslog?
[20:02] <grobe0ba> there might be something useful in there
[20:02] <jrcharney> wlan0 is there, but no one is home
[20:02] <grobe0ba> is that what the log says?
[20:04] <jrcharney> A whole bunch of stuff, but I can't copy it to this computer that I'm typing on.  (The problem is on my desktop btw)
[20:05] <grobe0ba> do you have no way of using ethernet?
[20:05] <grobe0ba> 'cause that's basically the stuff we need to see to try to figure this out
[20:05] <grobe0ba> well, probably, maybe has something, at lesat
[20:07] <jrcharney> ethernet is all the way on the other side of the house.
[20:07] <grobe0ba> there's nothing else i can do at this point then.
[20:08]  * grobe0ba goes to dinner
[20:10] <eeee> jrcharney: try gksu gedit /etc/pm/config.d/config
[20:10] <eeee> jrcharney: add this line SUSPEND_MODULES="wl"
[20:11] <eeee> save exit, reboot, then try to suspend and resume, see if the wifi works again
[20:12] <jrcharney> /etc/pm/config.d/config does not exist
[20:12] <eeee> yes, it'll be created
[20:19] <jrcharney> This /msg usr13 Don't leave me hanging
[20:19] <jrcharney> ignore that last message
[20:19] <eeee> jrcharney: any update?
[20:20] <pagios>  hi all , i want to run this as soon as my system reboots: /sbin/iw phy phy0 interface add wlan5-sta type managed
 where should i include it? /etc/rc.local no good @reboot crontba no good
[20:20] <eeee> pagios: do you need it to run as root?
[20:21] <pagios> eeee: yea
[20:21] <jrcharney> Other than that rebooting the computer never the solution for a problem that keeps happening after rebooting/sleeping/waking up, no
[20:21] <eeee> why is rc.local no good
[20:21] <pagios> eeee: the command doesnt work fine duno ifconfig fdoesnt show it
[20:21] <pagios> if i run the command manually at console it works
[20:21] <eeee> jrcharney: i get it, you are against reboots :)
[20:22] <Muchachao> who owns a thinkpad x120e?
[20:22] <jrcharney> Yeah, especially when this has happened before, eeee.
[20:22] <SNAFUdowser> Hey guys how can I propperly install nvidia graphics drivers?  Is there anything special I need to do to disable the graphics drivers included in the base install?
[20:22] <eeee> so you tried to suspend and resume and it still doesn't work right?
[20:23] <jrcharney> I still have two other problems involving broken services that not even chucking the computer out the window would resolve
[20:23] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: are you in the gui?
[20:23] <eeee> jrcharney: type rfkill list all
[20:23] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: No I'm booting with nomodeset after installing it (as you instructed) with the minimal install.
[20:24] <SNAFUdowser> (thanks again for that suggestion :) )
[20:24] <AaronEstrada> Hola
[20:24] <jrcharney> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN   Soft blocked: no   Hard blocked: no
[20:24] <eeee> ( np :) )
[20:24] <jrcharney> 1: hci0: Bluetooth   Soft blocked: no   Hard blocked: no
[20:25] <jrcharney> I metioned bluetooth broken too, right?  Much longer than Wi-Fi has
[20:25] <pagios> eeee: i get  error changing net interface name rename4 to wlan5: File exists
[20:26] <jrcharney> Basically that's what happens when you try to get qtSixaxis to work when it kills bluetooth forever when you try to get a dualshock controller to work
[20:27] <ozoman8__> 0
[20:29] <eeee> pagios: sounds like the command itself has an error?
[20:29] <pagios> eeee: no
[20:29] <eeee> pagios: does it work in a terminal?
[20:29] <pagios> yes
[20:29] <BluesKaj> SNAFUdowser, the recommended nvidia driver for your gpu is the 331, if that driver balks at the lightdm login as it has for some then try the nvidia-331-updates driver..it works on most nvidia gpus IME
[20:30] <SNAFUdowser> BluesKaj: Awesome so I just do a sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 and then reboot and everything should work out just fine?
[20:31] <jrcharney> And suddently, networking works again.  Problem #3 resolved
[20:31] <SNAFUdowser> (besides that one issue you mentioned)
[20:31] <BluesKaj> SNAFUdowser, yes
[20:31] <SNAFUdowser> Awesome thanks!  :D *crosses fingers*
[20:31] <BluesKaj> anyway that's it for me ...been a long day, these old eyes need some rest
[20:32] <SNAFUdowser> BlueKaj: Sleep well and thanks for the help!
[20:33] <CodeGosu> gimp takes seconds to launch on my pc, and doing some stuff isnt exeactly fast, what are some light sketching programs on linux that i can fire immidietly and have enviroment immidietly without chosing any settings
[20:33] <jrcharney> skas, where is the Hackathon happening today?
[20:35] <_unreal_> CodeGosu, ? what are you trying to do? gimp is not slow unless your computer is low on memory or old or both
[20:36] <_unreal_> or if your opening huge raster images with multi layers. that can chew resources on even the fastest systems
[20:37] <bekks> CodeGosu: Gimp loads a lot of files at startup, like pencils, and so on - so thats no indicator of gimp being "fast" or "slow". You dont restart gimp upon every step in your workflow.
[20:39] <SNAFUdowser> Anyone have any idea why after installing my graphics drivers when I boot into linux it hangs with just a cursor on the screen?  No logo pops up its just a cursor.
[20:40] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: can you get into a tty ?
[20:41] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: what's a tty?  How can I get in?  Sorry not familiar
[20:41] <eeee> ctrl+alt+f1
[20:41] <Kireji> does  net.inet.ip.fastforwarding = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf on 14.04.1 do anything?
[20:41] <SNAFUdowser> I'll try
[20:41] <SNAFUdowser> That's on grub or with the cursor?  ctrl+alt+f1
[20:42] <eeee> cursor
[20:42] <bekks> Kireji: Did you check wether the kernel in 14.04.1 supports that option?
[20:42] <okt> I'm running Xubuntu 14.04, in the NetworrManager applet's dropdown "Edit" is greyed out. How can I edit my connections?
[20:42] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: nope can't get in.  Well nothing is happening when I press ctrl+alt+f1
[20:42] <SNAFUdowser> ctrl+alt+delete works though! lol
[20:42] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: when you used nomodeset what happened earlier ?
[20:42] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: what does it do?
[20:42] <eeee> reboot?
[20:43] <SNAFUdowser> Lemme see, i think it was just the cursor (last time I tried that) but I'll try again to be sure
[20:43] <NeedSomeHelp> Hi, getting "Failed to start session" after upgrading to 14.04. I have tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and dpkg-reconfigure -a, but that didnt help anything. Any other suggestions ?
[20:44] <eeee> NeedSomeHelp: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm ?
[20:44] <eeee> unity maybe
[20:44] <eeee> where do you get that error?
[20:45] <NeedSomeHelp> will try, 1 minute... I get it when I try to login
[20:45] <Daryl> whats a good way to or location to let people know about a new website for Ubuntu? like example ubuntucenter.besaba.com? kind of stuff
[20:46] <jdominguez> hi!
[20:47] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: Ahh so now it just hangs during the bootup.  It finished like one line of dot movement and then started hanging. :(
[20:50] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: try to boot into text mode
[20:50] <eeee> then install the xorg drivers
[20:50] <richac> so I can't believe how easy apparmor was to install
[20:51] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: Is booting into textmode the same as booting with nomodeset?
[20:51] <eeee> no, add text instead of nomodeset
[20:51] <SNAFUdowser> Awesome thanks :D
[20:53] <NeedSomeHelp> eeee: working, thanks
[20:53] <eeee> NeedSomeHelp: great, np
[20:55] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: so adding "text" where I used to put "nomodeset" is not working and just booting into the cursor again.  Is there something else i should do or should I reinstall and that time install xorg drivers or something?  I can reinstall in like 10 mins lol
[20:57] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: try grub > recovery > start networking > drop to root shell
[21:06] <SNAFUdowser> eeee: so it's hanging on "input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP, pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card2/input21"
[21:06] <SNAFUdowser> There are a bunch of entries liek that btw
[21:08] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: try to press enter and stuff, who knows
[21:08] <SNAFUdowser> damn nothing works.  Should I reinstall and try an opensource graphics driver or something?
[21:08] <SNAFUdowser> (btw my graphics card works, it's just fine in windows and osx)
[21:10] <ktosiek> ugh, maybe now someone knows: what might cause ~3-4s sound latency when using Bluetooth headset?
[21:10] <usr13> SNAFUdowser: If it is just a graphics driver you should not have to re-install, just install graphics driver.
[21:10] <usr13> SNAFUdowser: Ctrl-Alt-F6 and login
[21:11] <ktosiek> (and BTW is the Apple's headset battery status indication supported? Or do we have to wait for bluez 5 for this?)
[21:12] <andybrine> im wondering if anyone as come across this problem
[21:12] <andybrine> when I open a new tab in the epiphany browser it just closes
[21:17] <eeee> andybrine: epiphany kind of sucks, i've never had a session it didn't crash in
[21:18] <andybrine> I have used the browser and thought it worked well
[21:18] <eeee> SNAFUdowser: try without start networking
[21:19] <eeee> ( drop to root shell )
[21:19] <usr13> andybrine: Try firefox
[21:19] <andybrine> its frustrating that I click to open a new tab and within seconds it closes
[21:19] <eeee> andybrine: how do you minimize in it? i never figured that out
[21:19] <andybrine> I have tried other browsers are wanted to try this one
[21:20] <andybrine> dont think you can
[21:20] <usr13> andybrine: How did you like konqueror?
[21:20] <andybrine> im in gnome3 and I just drag down from the top bar
[21:20] <LuchaLibre> Hi!
[21:20] <andybrine> I have not ever user konqueror to be honest
[21:20] <usr13> andybrine: ok
[21:21] <LuchaLibre> I need help with installing a program from tar.gz
[21:21] <eeee> LuchaLibre: what's the name of the program?
[21:21] <usr13> LuchaLibre: Use the package management system.
[21:21] <LuchaLibre> eeee: Yugioh Pro
[21:21] <LuchaLibre> usr13: how?
[21:22] <usr13> LuchaLibre: Search for it with apt-cache
[21:22] <LuchaLibre> usr13: Run that command?
[21:22] <eeee> it doesn't seem to be there
[21:23] <wald0> is ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 still supported? and until which year?
[21:23] <expunge> wald0: doesn't matter, you shouldn't put off updating
[21:23] <bekks> wald0: 12.04 is, until 2017, 12.10 isnt supported anymore.
[21:24] <eeee> LuchaLibre: tar xzvf filename.tar.gz
[21:24] <LuchaLibre> eeee: I should run that command?
[21:24] <usr13> LuchaLibre: Whawt is Yugioh ?
[21:24] <eeee> wald0: 12.04 , until 2017
[21:24] <LuchaLibre> usr13: A very popular card game based on an anime
[21:25] <wald0> expunge: i have a pretty broken ubuntu install because the repos dont works anymore, i want to reinstall from scratch, but i dont want this problem to happen again because the crappy lts policy that removes the repos
[21:25] <wald0> ah, so 12.04 then, thx bekks
[21:25] <LuchaLibre> pumba: Lion King much?
[21:26] <eeee> wald0: why don't you install 14.04?
[21:26] <pumba> yes
[21:26]  * LuchaLibre pets pumba. "Hehe :D"
[21:26] <pumba> i'm having a problem with ubuntu install on an acer lappy with 14.04 .. trackpad goes nuts - is this a common problem?
[21:26] <eeee> LuchaLibre: yeah
[21:27] <pumba> touching the trackpad- makes it just go wild and i can't control the mouse
[21:27] <pumba> the pointer
[21:27] <LuchaLibre> pumba: do you have a usb mouse around?
[21:27] <pumba> yeah
[21:27] <wald0> eeee: some application seems like to require specifically this version for compatibility with libs
[21:27] <wald0> mmmh, whats the codename for 12.04 ?
[21:27] <expunge> wald0: LTS propagates an idea that it is somehow smart to avoid updating, but
[21:27] <eeee> precise
[21:27] <expunge> wald0: it's your own fault if you do it
[21:27] <LuchaLibre> pumba: Don't touch the trackpad, we will try to determine how we can fix it.
[21:27] <expunge> wald0: when there is software you can update, you should endeavour to figure out how to update to it as soon as possible
[21:27] <eeee> ( @ wald0 )
[21:27] <expunge> forever
[21:27] <expunge> until the end of time
[21:28] <wald0> expunge: i have not said htat i wanted to update, i havbe just say "broken repos"
[21:28] <LuchaLibre> pumba: first get the usb mouse plugged and ready.
[21:28] <pumba> okay LuchaLibre  - I've seen some forum threads with people with the same problem but not really any ways to fix it
[21:28] <pumba> alright
[21:28] <wald0> so just think about a system where you cannot install ANYTHING, crazy
[21:28] <expunge> wald0: no, _I_ have said you should update =P
[21:29] <gdoteof> when i do apt-get install ruby, i get "settingu p ruby 1.9.1"
[21:29] <wald0> expunge: i let the updates for your life, i want peaceful stable living without surprises :), seems like you have more free time than me
[21:29] <gdoteof> if i do ruby -v, it says 1.9.3p484
[21:29] <expunge> wald0: stability is a moving target
[21:29] <wald0> expunge: my time too
[21:29] <expunge> wald0: you need to update to keep it forever
[21:29] <wald0> i dont want to update ! lol
[21:29] <expunge> wald0: well 5 years should be enough time to manage a single update
[21:29] <gdoteof> when i try and install compass, i get complaints about 1.9.1
[21:30] <gdoteof> and if i do ls /usr/lib/ruby it only has 1.9.1 in there
[21:30] <LuchaLibre> pumba: have you got the mouse in?
[21:30] <gdoteof> i just did a purge/reinstall and its all the same, ic an't tell wtf is going on
[21:30] <pumba> LuchaLibre yes laptop is booting up
[21:30] <LuchaLibre> pumba: goodie :3
[21:30] <usr13> wald0: You are on 12.04?  If so, just fix what you have.
[21:31] <pumba> alright ready to go
[21:31] <wald0> so whats the name for 12.04 ? hardy?
[21:31] <wald0>  i need some name for the debootstraping
[21:31] <gdoteof> and, i am on 14.04
[21:31] <LuchaLibre> pumba: how is the usb mouse working?
[21:31] <pumba> ye
[21:31] <Kireji> where is a good place to read changes from 12.04 lts to 14.04 lts?
[21:31] <eeee> wald0: precise
[21:31] <wald0> thx
[21:32] <pumba> yes
[21:32] <LuchaLibre> pumba: If it's working then that means your trackpad isn't supported.
[21:32] <LuchaLibre> Or
[21:32] <LuchaLibre> Isn't configured
[21:32] <LuchaLibre> Properly
[21:32] <pumba> well the trackpad moves
[21:32] <pumba> the pointer
[21:32] <pumba> but the problem is
[21:32] <LuchaLibre> Config issues then
[21:32] <LuchaLibre> Hmm
[21:32] <LuchaLibre> Do you know the make/model of your trackpad?
[21:33] <pumba> have an Aspire E 11 laptop
[21:33]  * eeee can't help but state that hardy is 8.04 , you need to update more man!
[21:33] <pumba> I'm sure i can find the specs
[21:33] <eeee> ( sorry )
[21:33] <eeee> :D
[21:33] <LuchaLibre> pumba: Do so
[21:34] <usr13> Kireji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[21:35] <LuchaLibre> Chocolate Raaaaain.
[21:35] <Kireji> usr13: thank you!
[21:35] <LuchaLibre> pumba: Le Specs?
[21:35] <pumba> cant find the trackpad model info
[21:35] <pumba> just says large precision trackpad
[21:36] <pumba> still looking
[21:36] <eeee> pumba: xinput
[21:36] <eeee> type that
[21:37] <Kireji> how do I manage which services start at boot in 14.04 lts?
[21:37] <expunge> pumba: sure it's clean?
[21:37] <Kireji> mysql is starting at reboot and I don't want it to
[21:37] <LuchaLibre> pumba: try this command cat /proc/bus/input/devices > ~/devices
[21:37] <bekks> !upstart | Kireji
[21:38] <Kireji> bekks: thank you!
[21:40] <pumba> got it
[21:41] <LuchaLibre> pumba: What does it say?
[21:41] <Kireji> bekks: reading http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html  - so I edit .conf files in /etc/init ?
[21:42] <bekks> Kireji: yes
[21:42] <Kireji> bekks: is there a console interface/program to manage the .conf files, or is it expected we edit them manually?
[21:43] <bekks> Kireji: The latter :)
[21:43] <pumba> LuchaLibre
[21:43] <pumba> did u get it
[21:44] <pumba> https://ghostbin.com/paste/gfmut
[21:44] <LuchaLibre> pumba: turn away off
[21:44] <pumbaway> should be off now
[21:44] <Kireji> good
[21:45] <Marwanpro> Ubuntu is for noob
[21:45] <Marwanpro> Arch is better
[21:46] <Kireji> what's plymouth ?
[21:46] <Kireji> cancel that it's here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[21:47] <Basketballl> !chown
[21:47] <usr13> Basketballl: 755 for directories, 644 for riles
[21:48] <usr13> basketball:  chmod
[21:52] <SDr> hey, any recommendation for a visual tool similar to process explorer in windows, for ubuntu 14.04?
[21:52] <SDr> qps fail :/
[21:56] <expunge> qps?
[21:57] <usr13> SDr: htop
[21:57] <usr13> SDr: But lot more detail
[21:57] <SDr> so, yeah, graphical
[21:57] <expunge> SDr: http://alternativeto.net/software/process-explorer/?platform=linux
[21:59] <muzzu> quak
[21:59] <muzzu> quak
[21:59] <LuchaLibre> I wish colleges offered a Bachelor's in Linux :(
[21:59] <muzzu> quaak
[21:59] <LuchaLibre> None in the US do.
[21:59] <LuchaLibre> >.<
[22:00] <dw1> whenever I look in Recent Documents in any program there's never anything there.. any ideas?
[22:00] <expunge> sure they do
[22:00] <expunge> they offer whatever you're goofy enough to give your time and money away for
[22:00] <muzzu> @uaak
[22:00] <expunge> including being a librarian
[22:06] <Love_Story> hello people
[22:06] <sureyya> hello :D
[22:06] <zerothis> trying to boot trusty live CD on my toshiba satellite a25-s2792. splash shows & some "ali15x3" errors that blink too fast to read . then 'starting display manager'. then screen goes black. REISUB works after that.
[22:06] <LuchaLibre> Woot!
[22:07] <LuchaLibre> I fixed an issue
[22:07] <LuchaLibre> My first one :D
[22:07] <LuchaLibre> Whooo
[22:07] <Love_Story> what
[22:07] <sureyya> ne edi
[22:07] <Love_Story> I dont understand you
[22:07] <sureyya> :D
[22:07] <LuchaLibre> I helped someone with an issue
[22:07] <Love_Story> ý dont know sureyya
[22:08] <Love_Story> what is your issue?
[22:09] <Basketballl> !chown
[22:09] <LuchaLibre> !victory
[22:09] <Basketballl> ubottu, chown
[22:09] <LuchaLibre> ubottu, victory
[22:11]  * LuchaLibre has fixed his first issue and is dancing throughout the chatroom
[22:12] <LuchaLibre> Anyone need help?
[22:12] <zerothis> LuchaLibre: I do
[22:12] <sureyya> nein
[22:12] <sureyya> yok
[22:12] <sureyya> no
[22:12] <sureyya> )
[22:12] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: Explain?
[22:13] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: What is wrong?
[22:13] <zerothis> trying to boot trusty live CD on my toshiba satellite a25-s2792. splash shows & some "ali15x3" errors that blink too fast to read . then 'starting display manager'. then screen goes black. REISUB works after that.
[22:13] <LuchaLibre> REISUB?
[22:13] <Basketballl> how do i change the root folder /home/harris/icons to a normal folder no root
[22:14] <zerothis> alt+REISUB to reboot
[22:14] <sureyya> sleeping
[22:14] <sureyya> :(
[22:14] <sureyya> uykum varrr Love_Story
[22:14] <zerothis> REISUB works so Linux is working, just cant see it on the screen or run an GUI
[22:14] <usr13> Basketballl: chown it, sudo
[22:15] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: seems out of my league, will try to find some info
[22:15] <Basketballl> usr13,  what command though
[22:15] <usr13> Basketballl: I assume that what you are saying is that folder is owned by root and not harris, right?
[22:15] <Basketballl> yes
[22:15] <OerHeks> zerothis, looking at the specs, Ali/Trident chipset, i would recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[22:15] <usr13> Basketballl: sudo chown harris /home/harris/icons
[22:15] <LuchaLibre> usr13: You think you could help zerothis?
[22:16] <usr13> LuchaLibre: With ___________?
[22:16] <usr13> Oh...
[22:16] <LuchaLibre> Yeah
[22:16] <zerothis> yes, Lubuntu is giving me the same problem
[22:16] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: talk to usr13 about it. He's my senior in these kind of things.
[22:16] <usr13> zerothis: What is REISUB?
[22:17] <usr13> LuchaLibre: *(I don't know what REISUB is.)
[22:17] <LuchaLibre> usr13: He won't explain it either
[22:17] <usr13> LuchaLibre: zerothis Looking at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220356
[22:17] <OerHeks> REISUB = Magic_SysRq_key
[22:18] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220356
[22:18] <zerothis> usr13: as the joke goes, (R)eboot (E) (I)f (S)ystem (U)dderly (B)roken. it is a series of commands to cleanly shutdown Linux
[22:18] <OerHeks>  Retourner En Islande Sur Un Bateau :-D
[22:19] <usr13> !REISUB
[22:19] <Bashing-om> LuchaLibre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses .
[22:19] <LuchaLibre> usr13: I solved one issue today at least.
[22:19] <LuchaLibre> >.<
[22:20] <zerothis> ubottu: tell your programmers that REISUB shuts down, it does not reboot
[22:20] <wipe> www\
[22:20] <nadir> hello
[22:21] <LuchaLibre> ubotto: You're awesome :P
[22:21] <LuchaLibre> ubottu: You're awesome :P
[22:21] <LuchaLibre> Yeap
[22:21] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | If you want to play
[22:22] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: I would help you but it's kind of out of my range of expertise. Try making a forum thread on the Ubuntu Forums
[22:22] <usr13> zerothis: Did you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key ?
[22:23] <zerothis> usr13: yes
[22:23] <usr13> zerothis: So tell me more....
[22:24] <usr13> zerothis:  (Not much to go on yet...)
[22:24] <usr13> zerothis: *(need to know what is broken before we can figure out how to fix it.)
[22:25] <LuchaLibre> usr13: maybe the disk he's using is corrupted?
[22:26] <usr13> LuchaLibre: Possibly.
[22:26] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: when you boot into the Live CD are you able to reach the menu?
[22:26] <usr13> !fsck | zerothis
[22:27] <usr13> LuchaLibre: but we are only speculating as we know precious little about zerothis' computer and what has been done to it.
[22:27] <zerothis> yes, live CD menu works. Trying to try or install does not. screen flashes errors to quickly, "ALI15X3" is the only bit I can recall. "ALI15X3" appears multiple times in multiple lines of errors
[22:28] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: is there a check cd for errors option in the menu?
[22:28] <zerothis> I checked the CD, drives, and memory for errors, no errors reported
[22:28] <usr13> zerothis: Did you run a checksum on the ISO?
[22:28] <usr13> md5sum | zerothis
[22:28] <usr13> !md5sum | zerothis
[22:28] <zerothis> checksum checks out ok
[22:29] <usr13> zerothis: And the burn process completed without errors?
[22:29] <LuchaLibre> usr13: This might be it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247099
[22:30] <zerothis> yes, burned correctly, hence the correct MD5
[22:30] <LuchaLibre> usr13: Also according to this it might be faulty hardware
[22:30] <LuchaLibre> usr13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1749991
[22:31] <usr13> LuchaLibre: That's what I was about to say... sounds like a hardware issue, zerothis
[22:31] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1749991
[22:32] <intx> d
[22:32] <zerothis> yes, I've had some videocards give me similar issues in the past. But only after I successfully installed Linux
[22:32] <usr13> LuchaLibre: zerothis ... but again, we know precious little about the PC and what has been done to it so....
[22:32] <LuchaLibre> usr13: Yes, we're pulling at straws here
[22:33] <usr13> zerothis: Could you clarify what that last statement?
[22:34] <usr13> zerothis: Let's start over;  What exactly happens when you boot the system?  (What do you see on the screen in the end?)  Is it just a black screen?
[22:34] <usr13> zerothis: If so:
[22:35] <zerothis> past issues, after successful installing xubuntu, lubuntu, and debian, I've had the computer reboot and show a blank screen when the display manager should appear
[22:35] <usr13> !nomodeset | zerothis
[22:35] <usr13> zerothis: What video chip is in it now?
[22:36] <OerHeks> usr13, he has an laptop with Ali/Trident chipset
[22:36] <CodeGosu> is there a way i can make virtual microphone that plays mp3?
[22:37] <usr13> I dono...
[22:37] <OerHeks> CodeGosu, microphones are used to record, not to play
[22:37] <usr13> CodeGosu: You can do virtually anything with a virtual microphone.
[22:38] <CodeGosu> im only in chrome atm
[22:38] <CodeGosu> sorry wrong window
[22:38] <zerothis> nomodeset sounds promising, I'll investigate that. I'm not sure of the chip. It's got that awful shared video memory 'feature' so I'm guessing it's that old intel 900 or 800 series. But, I thought intell issues were fixed in ubuntu several releases ago. I've successfully installed quantal on systems with these cards without issues
[22:39] <usr13> CodeGosu: I should warn you that my last comment was purely humor.
[22:39] <zerothis> OerHeks: ALI/Trident, thanks (didn't know they were still arround after the 199s)
[22:39] <LuchaLibre> usr13: A jolly good fellow
[22:39] <usr13> Yea, that's me...
[22:40] <LuchaLibre> usr13: Let's hope nomodeset helps zero
[22:41] <LuchaLibre> I'll be back in a while, since all seems to be well
[22:41] <zerothis> nomodeset (apparently) failed.
[22:41] <LuchaLibre> oh
[22:41] <LuchaLibre> that is not good
[22:42] <LuchaLibre> Maybe there is something wrong with the hardware..?
[22:42] <zerothis> AH! HA! "forcevesa" typed in the same place instead of nomodeset seems to be working!
[22:42] <ObrienDave> well, that's a new one :)
[22:42] <LuchaLibre> zerothis: Congrats. Like I said, not my area XD
[22:43] <LuchaLibre> Take care folks!
[22:44] <zerothis> I'm not holding my breath for it yet. As I said, in the past, blank screen at GUI issues happened _after_ installation.
[22:50] <zerothis> thanks for pointing me the right direction
[22:50]  * zerothis afk
[22:50] <OerHeks> have fun
[22:50] <Valarkin_> morning - just rebooted server 14.04 and /home has disappeared
[22:52] <OerHeks> Valarkin_, how do you tell it disappeared?
[22:52] <Valarkin_> actually, I misspeak. Home is still there but the user dirs within are now gone.
[22:52] <Valarkin_> I tried logging in as a normal user and was told there was no driectory using / for home
[22:53] <Valarkin_> No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[22:53] <Valarkin_> which is an appropriate emoticon ;)
[22:54] <Valarkin_> mount shows /dev/mapper/fileserver-share on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
[22:59] <OerHeks> Valarkin_, strange, is this a raid system?
[22:59] <Valarkin_> just a large volume
[22:59] <Valarkin_> no raid at all
[23:01] <Valarkin_> home had originally been on a partiion of the first drive. Once I got the large volume in place I moved home over to it.
[23:07] <usr13> Valarkin_: sudo fdisk -l
[23:07] <usr13> Valarkin_: What does that say?
[23:08] <usr13> Valarkin_: Oh, you moved home?  Let's see what /etc/fstab looks like.
[23:08] <usr13> Valarkin_: Pastebin both...
[23:09] <usr13> .... and we will have a look ....
[23:10] <Valarkin_> okie dok, one sec
[23:10] <usr13> Valarkin_: We may also need to see output of  sudo blkid
[23:11] <usr13> !paste | Valarkin_
[23:12] <parallels> gizmo
[23:13] <kupo1> herro folks. weechat noob here. feels good man
[23:15] <Valarkin_> usr13: http://pastebin.com/kiF1FYpc |and| http://pastebin.com/4fU8dgyz |and| http://pastebin.com/TkxDQExv
[23:16] <Valarkin_> usr13: Disk /dev/mapper/fileserver-share doesn't contain a valid partition table doesn't look promising ;)
[23:16] <gizmo> how do I register my name for irc?
[23:16] <Valarkin_> it did before the boot :D
[23:16] <ObrienDave> !register | gizmo
[23:17] <gizmo> Thanks
[23:18] <usr13> Valarkin_: You moved /home/ to another partition but failed to edit /etc/fstab ?
[23:18] <usr13> Valarkin_: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[23:18] <Valarkin_> no I did!
[23:18] <Valarkin_> one sec
[23:19] <usr13> Valarkin_: Oh, I see.
[23:20] <eeee> Valarkin_: home is encrypted?
[23:21] <usr13> Valarkin_: Which partition did you move /home/ to?
[23:21] <Valarkin_> user13: http://pastebin.com/7UqCQuh9 was the preboot state
[23:21] <Valarkin_> to the very large volume
[23:21] <Valarkin_> udser13: /dev/mapper/fileserver-share    /home   ext4    defaults       0       2
[23:21] <Valarkin_> user13 *
[23:23] <eeee> Valarkin_: if your /home is encrypted, you have to add it to /etc/crypttab too i think
[23:23] <usr13> Valarkin_: Choices are sda1 sdc1 sde1 sdd1
[23:23] <Valarkin_> I did not intend for home to be encrypted
[23:23] <eeee> Valarkin_: why does it say /dev/mapper/home then?
[23:23] <Valarkin_> well, I didn't know I could have an intention tbh
[23:24] <Valarkin_> ummmmmmmm cause I didn't know what I was doing?
[23:24] <Valarkin_> I r teh noob.
[23:24] <eeee> i'm confused, did you add it to fstab wrongly, or you mean you encrypted it by mistake?
[23:24] <Valarkin_> until you said it was encryped I had no idea
[23:25] <Valarkin_> I did wonder at the path form
[23:25] <Valarkin_> but
[23:25] <Valarkin_> yeah
[23:25] <usr13> eeee: should  we just try the blkid ?
[23:25] <eeee> that's what i mean, did you get that from a guide?
[23:25] <eeee> the /dev/mapper/..
[23:25] <Valarkin_> yes, ummmm one sec I'll get you the url
[23:26] <Valarkin_> eeee: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[23:26] <eeee> yeah see lvm = encryption
[23:26] <Valarkin_> AH!
[23:27] <Valarkin_> Ok, well, it's all a learning experience :D
[23:27] <eeee> usr13: i think he pasted it earlier somewhere
[23:27] <eeee> usr13: hold on
[23:27] <Valarkin_> I wish I'd booted before I started all the installing and configging :D
[23:28] <Valarkin_> 2 weeks ago I know how to doa ls and move a file or two. I've learned quite a lot since. Challenging, but ultimately satifying. I'd be utterly lost without this channel though. You guys rock ;)
[23:29] <usr13> eeee: I'm talking about replacing /dev/mapper/fileserver-share with UUID=what-ever in /etc/fstab
[23:30] <eeee> Valarkin_: nevermind, i thought it said luks, lvm isn't encryption
[23:30] <eeee> usr13: yeah sounds good
[23:30] <usr13> Valarkin_: So what partition is /home/ on?  Choices are sda1 sdc1 sde1 sdd1
[23:30] <Valarkin_> oh ok. I'd just twigged that you meant LVM and not the odd path form.
[23:31] <Valarkin_> so many acronyms
[23:31] <usr13> Valarkin_: (If you can tell us where it is, we can help you.)
[23:31] <usr13> Valarkin_: Give us a clue.
[23:32] <Valarkin_> sorry, i seem to have missed something
[23:32] <Valarkin_> oh the partition
[23:32] <eeee> usr13: this is his blkid http://pastebin.com/TkxDQExv
[23:33] <Valarkin_> I'd actually used that first, then thought I would follow the form in the file.
[23:33] <usr13> eeee: Oh ok.
[23:33] <Valarkin_> ikonia did say there were advantages and disadvantages to each....
[23:33] <usr13> Valarkin_: Ok try this.  Edit /etc/fstab and change the last line.
[23:33] <Valarkin_> but I didn't dig further.
[23:34] <Valarkin_> open
[23:34] <Valarkin_> replace th epath with the uid?
[23:34] <usr13> UUID=69e1b941-eb97-4dbb-a665-1280df191d4e  /home   ext4    defaults       0       2
[23:34] <usr13> Valarkin_: Yea, try that.
[23:36] <Valarkin_> Ok, restarting the system.
[23:37] <usr13> Valarkin_: I don't know if it will work or not but... we will see.
[23:37] <Valarkin_> ok, back in. It's still reporting Could not chdir to home directory /home/ipt: No such file or directory
[23:37] <Valarkin_> do i need to rebuild the user dirs?=
[23:38] <Valarkin_> oh I guess I could check to see if it has a valid part first
[23:38] <usr13> Valarkin_: Yea, I don't know.
[23:38] <usr13> I've used LVM before but not like this....
[23:39] <duckfarts> hello
[23:39] <Valarkin_> no valid part.
[23:39] <usr13> But really, I've not found much need or use for the features of LVM
[23:39] <Valarkin_> Have I chosen an unusual method for combining drives into one volume?
[23:40] <usr13> Valarkin_: I'm sure someone else would be better qualified to give you some advise.  I'm not sure what to do with this one.
[23:41] <duckfarts> I was trying to clear room on my boot partition because it was too full for ubuntu to update. So I tried removing some of the old packages but now my boot partition is completely empty except for memtest.
[23:41] <duckfarts> Can I reinstall ubuntu and keep all the files I still have on my files partition?
[23:41] <usr13> duckfarts: Have you deleted all your kernels?
[23:42] <duckfarts> I just deleted some old ones in the terminal but now they are all gone
[23:42] <usr13> duckfarts: Did you use the package management system to do what you did?
[23:42] <duckfarts> i did apt-get remove
[23:42] <usr13> duckfarts: Oh, you just deleted files?
[23:42] <Valarkin_> usr13: I very much appreciate the effort. It's getting late here - I'll sleep on it and try again tomorrow. Thanks eeee also :D
[23:42] <usr13> duckfarts: Well then, you can just apt-get install
[23:43] <usr13> duckfarts: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:43] <eeee> duckfarts: if you're boot is empty, you're going to have to install the kernel, grub, and update-initramfs
[23:43] <duckfarts> I'm running the newest one from a usb stick
[23:43] <duckfarts> my computer wont boot from harddrive
[23:43] <duckfarts> it just runs the memtest
[23:43] <_unreal_> ?
[23:44] <usr13> duckfarts: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:44] <_unreal_> will it access a hard drive?
[23:44] <eeee> duckfarts:  you could chroot into it and install
[23:44] <duckfarts> im running 14.04 lts from usb at the moment
[23:45] <duckfarts> it looks like the boot partition got almost completely wiped
[23:45] <duckfarts> but I still have all my files and shit on the main partition
[23:46] <eeee> duckfarts: try to chroot
[23:46] <usr13> duckfarts: So you have a partition for /boot and what others?
[23:46] <duckfarts> eeee i don't know what chroot is
[23:47] <usr13> duckfarts: What partitions do you have?
[23:47] <usr13> duckfarts: df
[23:47] <eeee> that'll show mounted partitions
[23:47] <eeee> ( of the live usb )
[23:48] <usr13> !paste | duckfarts
[23:48] <eeee> duckfarts: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:48] <eeee> duckfarts: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:50] <Valarkin_> ok, still not gone to bed. I thought I would recreate the fs. I unmounted it, ran "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/fileserver/share" and remounted it. I tried to create home but it said it existed. I went there and all the user dirs are back.
[23:51] <richac> is there a way to only log certain ip's with ufw?
[23:51] <duckfarts> I installed the pastebinit thing
[23:51] <eeee> duckfarts: ok, run the second command
[23:51] <duckfarts> usr13 i have a boot partition that is only 255 mb and then a much larger one with my files
[23:51] <usr13> Valarkin_: mkfs should have wiped everything out.
[23:51] <Valarkin_> user13: that's what I thought.
[23:51] <usr13> duckfarts: That is good information but not specific enough.
[23:52] <Valarkin_> I was shocked tbh. Rebooting now .
[23:52] <duckfarts> I ran the second one a while ago and nothing has happened yet
[23:52] <eeee> duckfarts: it should return a link to paste.ubuntu.com
[23:52] <duckfarts> it didnt
[23:52] <eeee> if you run sudo parted -l , what happens?
[23:53] <usr13> duckfarts: sudo fdisk -l > info.text;cat /etc/fstab >>info.text;sudo blkid >>info.text;pastebinit info.text  #Send resulting URL
[23:53] <duckfarts> i see my partitions
[23:53] <usr13> duckfarts: Yea, but we don't
[23:54] <usr13> duckfarts: If you chroot to your root partition and install a kernel you should be good to go.
[23:54] <eeee> duckfarts: can you paste them in the link usr13 referred you to earlier?
[23:54] <delinquentme> where do I place an alias so that anyone logging into a machine has access to it ?
[23:54] <eeee> delinquentme: /etc/bash.bashrc i guess
[23:54] <delinquentme> and can use it in their current bash session?
[23:54] <MrElendig> delinquentme: don't
[23:54] <MrElendig> delinquentme: use a script instead
[23:55] <MrElendig> well, unless you are masking something
[23:55] <MrElendig> in that case /etc/skel/.bashrc
[23:55] <MrElendig> and then let the user grab it if they want it
[23:56] <MrElendig> aliases in /etc/bash.bashrc is evil
[23:56] <duckfarts> here i uploaded it to imgur http://i.imgur.com/hd2jmlL.png
[23:56] <duckfarts> i don't know how to use the chroot command
[23:57] <duckfarts> In my boot partition I still have the grub file but no kernels
[23:58] <usr13> duckfarts: pastebinit /etc/fstab   #Send URL
[23:58] <eeee> MrElendig: yeah, thought there might be a better way