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| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:59 |
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| Akiva-Thinkpad | slow sunday | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | yup, very quiet | 12:44 |
| BluesKaj | suddenrly realized how n | 12:44 |
| BluesKaj | bloated and slow firefox has be\come, | 12:45 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: What are you using instead? | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | think 'buntu support is minimal now | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | going with chromium , penguin42 | 12:46 |
| penguin42 | hmm, haven't tried it for a few years | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | tried which one? | 12:46 |
| penguin42 | chromium, haven't tried it for a few years | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | well it suffers from google -hate in a lot of cases, but I have no problem with it...fast and efficient and easy to setup | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | the only thing lacking is the toolbar with edit and other options that FF has above the addressbar , but I can live without it | 12:50 |
| penguin42 | I did submit a chromium bug a few years back asking for a short cut for them | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | also the tab fonts are hard coded and so small they're almost unreadable on a large monitor like a TV | 12:54 |
| penguin42 | oh, I know why I stopped using it; I could hard lockit up with pasting with synergy | 12:56 |
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| BluesKaj | pasting with synergy? | 12:57 |
| * BluesKaj launches muon for synergy info | 12:58 | |
| penguin42 | yeh, synergy the thing that lets you share a mouse/keyboard across too machines | 12:58 |
| BluesKaj | right, seems like a cool app | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | dunno if i'd use it much tho | 13:04 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: I use it because all these irc windows are on an old laptop display and I do most of everything else on my main machine | 13:09 |
| lordievader | penguin42: I have a similar setup. And old laptop as irc screen ;) | 13:10 |
| penguin42 | lordievader: Yeh it works OK, synergy just tends to confuse the heck out of some things | 13:25 |
| lordievader | penguin42: Never really had any problems with synergy. | 13:26 |
| penguin42 | lordievader: The machine that is the synergy client never screen blanks for me; I have some keyboard mapping issues and cut/paste is sometimes flaky | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | i use a laptop here and a wireless KB and mouse for the media server which is 3M away and connected to the TV, so it's easy to task on each machine from one location | 13:33 |
| penguin42 | well I could type on the laptop keyboard and use it's touchpad, but that would mean leaning forward and that's waaaaaayyyy too much effort | 13:36 |
| lordievader | Thats why we have synergy, so we don't need to switch to a different keyboard ;) | 13:37 |
| penguin42 | interesting; I'm seeing some background rendering artifacts with chromium (On KDE framework 5) | 13:38 |
| penguin42 | it's the desktop background that flickers black as I move my mouse into and out of the screen - the contents of chromium are fine | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | still on plsama4 here, no artifacts | 13:41 |
| penguin42 | ok, cured if I turn off compositing | 13:44 |
| elfy | afternoon peeps | 13:48 |
| lordievader | Hey elfy, how are you? | 13:50 |
| elfy | ok thanks lordievader - having a lazy day - that's what Sunday is for :p | 13:51 |
| lordievader | elfy: True that ;) | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | had to drop my vpn connection for a few mins, for some reason thunderbird wouldn't send email to gmail accts while connected thru the vpn... it worked before but suddenly not. | 14:30 |
| streulma | hello is there better HiDPI support in Unity for 14.10 | 14:37 |
| BluesKaj | streulma, using a large monitor | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 15:05 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: It's not necessarily the large monitors,it's the small ones with lots of pixels | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | well increased dpi settings certainly help the font res on large monitors | 15:19 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: The problem is a lot of apps/libraries that do stuff in fixed number of pixels look hopelessly small on them | 15:19 |
| BluesKaj | the only problem I've come across is the tab fonts on chromium, otherwise fonts are easily adjusted on kubuntu ...windows is a lot cruder but it's workable | 15:22 |
| streulma | BluesKaj Macbook Pro Retina 13 inch | 15:24 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: What display have you tried it on? | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | our TV , a Panasonic 42" Plasma connected to the media server pc via DPI/HDMI from a nvidia 8400gs | 15:27 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Right, that's not where you get the problem | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, my 15.6" laptop screen is harder to adjust ,but running 105 dpi seems be a good compromise | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | to be | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: But the problem comes when you have ~250dpi screens a lot of stuff just looks wrong | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | wouldn'r down scale the dpi setting...that seems a bit much when the default is usually 96 dpi in the display driver | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | er would rather | 15:33 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: But the actual physical hardware is ~250dpi - and a lot of stuff doesn't look right | 15:33 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: That's the issue; it's not a simple settings issue | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, yeah, makes me wonder.."what the hell are they thinking" putting out a product with that kind of screen..kind of silly | 15:35 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: No! They're absolutely lovely | 15:35 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: It just takes a bit of design to get stuff right | 15:35 |
| BluesKaj | sounds like pita to me | 15:36 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: No, it's really really nice | 15:36 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: The displays are absolutely gorgeous | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | not if you can't read the fonts | 15:38 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: You can when the desktop environment properly does the fontsize properly | 15:38 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: It just means fixing a lot of old font cruft that assumed fixed DPI in a lot of places | 15:38 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: It does take some effort to get stuff right, and I think streulma was asking whether Ubuntu has done that yet (I don't know - I don't have such a device myself) | 15:39 |
| * BluesKaj needs larger displays for his old eyes | 15:39 | |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Yeh there are some 28" devices starting to come out at that type of DPI now | 15:40 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Properly rendered fonts look very crisp and smooth curves etc on them, photos look lovely | 15:41 |
| * penguin42 hasn't had a chance to play with the big displays, only played with tablets and laptops in shops | 15:42 | |
| BluesKaj | photos look great on the TV , it's not an immense screen so resolution is really clear | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | and being a plasma display the contyrast is superior to lcd/led displays | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | it's nice for standard TV resolution as well, the smaller 42" screen makes 480i much more watchable than a large 65" | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | some channels here compress the hell out of 1080i HD sources and aren't much clearer than the | 15:54 |
| BluesKaj | 480i counterpart | 15:55 |
| * penguin42 still watches TV on a 32" CRT so hey | 15:55 | |
| penguin42 | (Mostly because I can't even think about the effort needed to get it down the stairs to replace it...) | 15:56 |
| BluesKaj | our 20 yr old 28" mitsubishi gave up the ghost literally, and we got a good deal on this Panasonic, we had no other tvs so no other choices | 15:59 |
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| BluesKaj | bbl | 16:37 |
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