[09:03] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:57] <maaz_> Hello. I need urgent help here. Anyone kind enough to assist me ?
[11:04] <brobostigon> well we cant do anything if you leave, :)
[12:05] <SuperEngineer> vroom vroom time! :)
[15:19] <diddledan_> morning
[15:22]  * penguin42 yawns at diddledan_
[15:23] <mapps> hey
[17:04]  * DJones catches up with last nights Dr Who, When did the Tardis can upgrade so that it can go to exacty when and where its told to go to
[17:44]  * popey hasn't watched it yet
[17:58] <brobostigon> atleast the  tardis console doesnt look like a bong anaymore.
[17:59] <nigelb> hahaha
[18:05] <daftykins> i made a little mash up of before and after pics from my accident
[18:05] <daftykins> one is pretty graphic of my stitches, so don't click if you're squeamish
[18:05] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sncjvrt3y1aocla/dafty.jpg?dl=0
[18:06]  * popey is squeamish
[18:06]  * popey clicks anyway
[18:07] <popey> I saw an Occulus Rift devkit in CEX at the weekend
[18:07] <daftykins> it's low res so you're safe (:
[18:07] <popey> was tempted
[18:07] <daftykins> :O! v1?
[18:07] <ali1234> the DK1 is a bit crap tbh
[18:30] <penguin42> popey: I saw Google Glass
[18:32] <popey> ʘ‿ಠ
[18:32] <popey> in CEX!?
[18:42] <penguin42> yes
[18:42] <penguin42> look in their online thing they list a few
[18:43] <penguin42> they're asking 995 for them
[18:43] <moreati> I was struggling to work out why you were surprisde to
[18:43] <moreati> see those at an international trade show, then the penny dropped
[18:45] <daftykins> XD
[18:45] <penguin42> moreati: There was supposedly some heavy restrictions in the agreement when buying them about resale, and it's also a bit odd to turn up in CEX
[18:46] <moreati> penguin42: I was reading CEX and thinking CES
[18:46] <penguin42> ah
[18:46] <ali1234> CEX is basically a shop that fences stolen goods so i don't see why they'd care about resale agreements
[18:46] <penguin42> ali1234: Oh they're not as bad as some; they keep all the serial numbers logged
[18:47] <daftykins> lol i'm too weak to slide my sash window shut, halp :(
[18:50] <ali1234> did i mention that the oculus rift no longer works correctly in ubuntu? bug 1337641
[18:52] <daftykins> lol at BIOS update suggestion, seriously.
[18:52] <ali1234> it's not the first time i've had that either
[18:52] <ali1234> and it's never a useful suggestion
[18:53] <daftykins> :/
[18:53] <penguin42> yeh that always get suggested - sigh
[18:54] <ali1234> it's done by a script
[18:54] <penguin42> ali1234: It's worth trying the upstream kernel ppa though to see if it's fixed before going further, it should only take a minute
[18:55] <ali1234> yeah, i'll try it one day
[18:56] <ali1234> there's only about three games that work with the oculus on linux
[18:56] <penguin42> it's a curious bug to get a small rotation offset
[18:57] <ali1234> it's down to the way head tracking works
[18:57] <penguin42> what do they use - gyroscope?
[18:58] <ali1234> it has multiple different methods
[18:58] <penguin42> the kit I used back in '94 had a magnetic coil system (polhemus)
[18:58] <ali1234> it uses the accelerometer/gyroscope to guess the approximate rotation
[18:58] <ali1234> ie dead reckoning
[18:58] <ali1234> and then it uses the compass to correct
[18:59] <ali1234> the bug appears to make the compass not work, so it just relies on dead reckoning, which builds up error over time
[18:59] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KQEJBSW/
[18:59] <daftykins> Amazon FireTV now available in the UK \o/
[18:59] <daftykins> just got to wait for it to be truly cracked wide open ;)
[19:01] <diddledan_> I don't want an amazon firetv 'cos it won't play googley play-doh purchases
[19:04] <daftykins> it runs XBMC nicely :)
[19:26] <zleap> hi
[19:26] <zleap> looks like Munich is going to give away lots of 12.04 cd's to help increase adoption,
[19:26] <MarkDude> :D
[19:27] <zleap> i replied to the tweet on this and asked why 12.04 when 14.04 is the latest LTS release
[19:54] <popey> zleap: 12.04 has unity2d, 14.04 doesnt
[19:55] <zleap> ah ok
[19:55] <zleap> so is 12.04 better for people then
[19:57] <popey> for some people it may be
[19:58] <zleap> ok
[19:58] <zleap> hmm
[19:58] <zleap> it would be cool if we could do something like that over here,  but i don't think libraries would go with it
[20:02] <MarkDude> Just keep asking
[20:03] <zleap> ok
[20:03] <MarkDude> You never know- more likely are teaching areas- possibly schools
[20:03] <zleap> local library already does code club (well exeter)
[20:03] <zleap> and torbay librariesa re looking at it
[20:03] <MarkDude> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Co37GO2Fc
[20:03] <zleap> maybe what is needed is to take a minimal ubuntu and add lots of coding programs to it
[20:03] <zleap> so its a ubuntu-developer spin
[20:03] <MarkDude> Best FOSS video I have seen in a while - Charlie ROCKS!
[20:04] <ali1234> yes, make a developer spin already
[20:04] <ali1234> do it
[20:04] <MarkDude> dev spins rock
[20:04] <rsol_> #emfcamp
[20:04] <ali1234> over in #xubuntu we were brainstorming random ideas
[20:04] <zleap> I am working on the docs for ToriOS which is a very minimal distribution based on ubuntu
[20:05] <ali1234> one was to make a "extras" iso, with things like libreoffice, gimp, inkscape, devtools
[20:05] <ali1234> this oculd be shared between all the different versions
[20:05] <zleap> yeah
[20:05] <zleap> once its finished,  and out of beta / alpha then that is a good time to start on different spons
[20:06] <daftykins> different spoons :D
[20:06] <ali1234> it's never finished
[20:06] <zleap> out of interest if I took lubuntu minimal on a sd flash disk thing, and booted live and installed stuff it SHOULD keep the installed programs right, so in a way i can do the same thing that way
[20:06] <ali1234> no idea
[20:06] <zleap> ok
[20:06] <zleap> i don't really understand how all this works
[20:07] <zleap> but a developer edition would be good and would tie in realy well with the curriculum
[20:07] <Azelphur> ali1234: whelp, this should be interesting
[20:07] <zleap> as there are also loads of e-books out there and even the ubuntu full circle special editions that could be included
[20:07] <Azelphur> I'm about to be officially on a Bitcoin salary
[20:07] <zleap> ohhh
[20:08] <zleap> when i boot back in to torios Livce later on i will see if scrot is still installed, if so my what i said would be the case
[20:09] <zleap> so i then take ubuntu mini and add stuff to it
[20:09] <zleap> then work out how to make an iso from that flash disk
[22:07] <ali1234> hetzner problems?
[22:07] <ali1234> am i even connected?
[22:07] <Azelphur> ali1234: yup
[22:08] <ali1234> i don't understand
[22:10] <diddledan_> ali1234: I'm having hetzner issues too
[22:11] <ali1234> i'm connected to irc through our server
[22:11] <ali1234> but i can't create any new connections at all
[22:11] <ali1234> weird
[22:11] <diddledan_> ditto
[22:12] <diddledan_> I just lost connectivity and my website went down
[22:12] <ali1234> yeah, same
[22:12] <diddledan_> it appears back up for me for now but I'm still getting alerts about services being down
[22:13] <diddledan_> unrelated but my company's servers in a pulsant datacentre in reading are also offline
[22:33] <diddledan_> my website is behaving like a yoyo right now
[22:33] <diddledan_> I'm surprised I've remained connected here
[22:37] <daftykins> diddledan_: hi sir
[22:40] <diddledan_> ello
[22:40] <diddledan_> on the phone :-)
[22:41] <daftykins> at this hour :o
[22:43] <ali1234> yep same
[22:43] <ali1234> it's on http://www.hetzner-status.de/en.html now
[22:44] <daftykins> just seen a site fail to login that did a few mins ago, could be related
[22:46] <ali1234> on the phone to hetzner? ;)
[22:48] <diddledan_> nope, pulsant :-)
[22:48] <diddledan_> boss comes first :-p
[23:08] <diddledan_> re: hetzner: The Problem should be fixed. Our current analyses of the issue showed that a core system in Falkenstein stopped forwarding traffic while still participating in Routing Protocol. We'll closely monitor the further behavior and will discus this matter with the manufacturer.
[23:08] <ali1234> cool. it does indeed seem to be working okay now
[23:09] <diddledan_> yeah, I've not had any alerts for a wee while now
[23:09] <ali1234> we just launched our new website today
[23:09] <ali1234> and now everyone thinks it doesn't work
[23:10] <diddledan_> grr
[23:13] <ali1234> you know, i'm pretty sure that router has been acting flaky for about a week now
[23:13] <ali1234> i guess it finally properly died
[23:16] <diddledan_> thank goodness for our tooling - I just relocated the company website to a secondary server in a different datacentre (my pulsant datacentre issue caused it to go down)
[23:16] <diddledan_> thankfully that's the only public service which appears to be affected - we're unbalanced it seems
[23:17] <diddledan_> all our others are already in the datacentre that I migrated to rather than being evenly spread between the two centres
[23:18] <Azelphur> Contracts are all signed now, I'm officially on a BTC salary :)
[23:20] <diddledan> oh dear, still intermittent?
[23:21] <ali1234> seems okay here
[23:22] <ali1234> http://drumoff.tv/
[23:23] <diddledan> I guess it's just a case of monitoring it