[00:00] <usr13> duckfarts: pwd  #What does that say?
[00:02] <duckfarts> usr13 it says /home/ubuntu
[00:02] <duckfarts> i can get a url from pastebinit
[00:02] <duckfarts> but when I type a command and then | pastebinit it freezes the terminal
[00:02] <usr13> duckfarts: df |pastebinit
[00:03] <usr13> !paste | duckfarts
[00:03] <eeee> !paste
[00:03] <usr13> duckfarts: df  #Paste results
[00:03] <duckfarts> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8274654/
[00:03] <duckfarts> ok here we go
[00:05] <eeee> duckfarts: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /
[00:06] <usr13> duckfarts: sudo chroot /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[00:06] <eeee> duckfarts: nevermind
[00:06] <Tripout> hi all, has anybody some time, to tell me a way how to fix missing 32bit libaries for an nvidia driver on a 64bit system
[00:06] <duckfarts> eeee it says mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[00:07] <duckfarts> usr13 it says chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root: Not a directory
[00:07] <eeee> usr13: shouldn't he mount the /proc and /sys and whatever before chrooting?
[00:08] <usr13> eeee: Oh yea.
[00:08] <duckfarts> If I just instal from the usb tool it might wipe out my main partition right?
[00:08] <zerothis> well, I managed to use the "forcevesa" boot option to get lubuntu installed. But the screen goes blank when X starts. but this time, there is apperently no way to use forcevesa (or it does not work). Like before, nomodeset seems to do nothing
[00:09] <usr13> duckfarts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[00:09] <usr13> duckfarts: Follow  that guide ^^^^^^^^
[00:09] <duckfarts> ok I'll read that thanks
[00:10] <eeee> duckfarts: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[00:10] <usr13> duckfarts: Once you are chrooted to the root filesystem, install a kernel.  I'm thinking first do: apt-cache search linux-image-3.16.0
[00:10] <eeee> duckfarts: it's almost done, after that, run the command usr13 posted earlier
[00:11] <usr13> duckfarts: Yea, as eeee points out, first things first....
[00:11] <eeee> wait a second
[00:11] <eeee> they are already mounted on /media
[00:12] <eeee> .. he should unmount, them mount "/" to /mnt, then mount /boot to /mnt/boot
[00:12] <zerothis> boot from hard disk=blank screen, try lubuntu=blank, only install with forcevesa works. From there, I cannot seem to even mount my installation (by design, I'm guessing, to prevent hackers from using a LiveCD to gain root access to my installation).
[00:13] <eeee> usr13: right?
[00:14] <usr13> eeee: All I can tell so far is that the root filesystem is mounted at /media/ubuntu/8cd25a57-fecb-4502-a7d0-96fcf8237527
[00:14] <usr13> eeee: So I told him wrong....
[00:14] <usr13> duckfarts: sudo chroot /media/ubuntu/8cd25a57-fecb-4502-a7d0-96fcf8237527
[00:14] <usr13> eeee: That is the mount point ^^^^^^
[00:15] <eeee> but shouldn't /boot be mounted to it ? /mountpoint/boot ?
[00:15] <eeee> that's what i was asking
[00:15] <eeee> cause /boot is mounted on another /media/...
[00:16] <usr13> eeee: /boot/ is mounted  /media/ubuntu/f6745243-2027-47fd-a126-4ffaf26862db
[00:16] <usr13> eeee: (which is sda1
[00:16] <eeee> yeah so if he chroots to the first mountpoint , /boot will be in a different place
[00:16] <eeee> beyond the scope of the mountpoint
[00:17] <eeee> how are the kernels supposed to find there way out of the chroot to /boot ?
[00:17] <duckfarts> usr13 i got this prompt: root@ubuntu:/#
[00:17] <usr13> duckfarts: pwd
[00:18] <duckfarts> it shows "/"
[00:18] <eeee> ok ls /boot now
[00:20] <duckfarts> the kernels i removed with apt-get remove were ubuntu 12 and 13 kernels
[00:20] <eeee> i'm just guessing asking btw, maybe he doesn't need to mount it, i'm using EFI and i have to mount it
[00:20] <usr13> duckfarts: ls /boot   #What does that say?
[00:20] <usr13> duckfarts: df
[00:21] <duckfarts> ls /boot doesnt say anything
[00:21] <eeee> so i guess he has to mount /boot
[00:21] <usr13> duckfarts: apt-cache search linux-image-3.16.0
[00:22] <eeee> ?
[00:22] <usr13> eeee: Oh  yea, maybe it is not mounted?
[00:22] <usr13> duckfarts: df  #What does that say?
[00:22] <duckfarts> usr13 http://i.imgur.com/dtBh5Kr.png
[00:22] <eeee> it's mounted, it's just mounted before the point where he mounted the root file system
[00:23] <richac> anyone have an apparmor profile for an irc client?
[00:23] <eeee> it's in  /media/<boot>   , and the installation is in /media/<installation>  , and now he's chrooted into /media/<installation>/, so he can't go back a level to /media/<boot>
[00:24] <eeee> he has to mount it to /media/<installation>/boot
[00:24] <duckfarts> apt-cache search linux-image-3.16.0 doesn't show anything
[00:24] <richac> dam apparmor is not even logging
[00:25] <eeee> duckfarts: i think you're trying to shoot ducks with farts here
[00:25] <eeee> pardon the pun!
[00:25] <eeee> exit the chroot
[00:25] <usr13> duckfarts: exit
[00:25] <duckfarts> lel
[00:25] <duckfarts> ok
[00:26] <OerHeks> duckfarts, 3.16 is only available for Utopic14.10 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[00:27] <OerHeks> 3.15 rc2 is the latest for current Trusty
[00:27] <richac> oh its in kern.log
[00:27] <richac> anyone got ap rofile for pidgin or something similar
[00:29] <richac> ok so which one sounds like its needed for connecting?  markerline, timestamp, xmppconsole, spellchk, or vvoncifg lol
[00:30] <usr13> OerHeks: Sorry, that was my mistake.
[00:31] <eeee> duckfarts: did you exit the chroot?
[00:31] <duckfarts> yes
[00:31] <eeee> duckfarts: mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu/8cd25a57-fecb-4502-a7d0-96fcf8237527/boot
[00:31] <OerHeks> usr13, i just read somewhere that AMD/ATI still haven't released stable drivers, so development is kind of silent http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc3NzM
[00:31] <eeee> duckfarts: add a sudo to that and run it
[00:32] <duckfarts> ran it
[00:32] <duckfarts> nothing happened
[00:32] <eeee> duckfarts: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /media/ubuntu/8cd25a57-fecb-4502-a7d0-96fcf8237527$i; done
[00:32] <eeee> now run the above
[00:33] <duckfarts> ok ran it
[00:33] <eeee> now chroot again
[00:33] <excelsiora> hello ubuntu, I have people asking me about a beginners course in Linux. Where should I point them?
[00:34] <usr13> duckfarts: sudo chroot /media/ubuntu/8cd25a57-fecb-4502-a7d0-96fcf8237527
[00:34] <duckfarts> ok did it
[00:35] <eeee> now ls /boot
[00:35] <duckfarts> grub  lost+found  memtest86+.bin  memtest86+.elf  memtest86+_multiboot.bin
[00:35] <duckfarts> these are the same files i see in my boot partition
[00:35] <duckfarts> in nataulis
[00:35] <usr13> duckfarts:  apt-cache search linux-image-3.13
[00:35] <eeee> it is your boot partition
[00:36] <excelsiora> They're asking about debian wheezy in particular, but I'm an Ubuntu guy.
[00:36] <usr13> eeee: OerHeks Is that the right version for 14.04 ?
[00:36] <duckfarts> usr13 it lists a bunch of stuff
[00:36] <eeee> duckfarts: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic
[00:39] <duckfarts> ok looks like it went smoothly
[00:39] <usr13> duckfarts:  ls /boot  #Do you see the new kernel?
[00:39] <duckfarts> except i got grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1.  Check your device.map.
[00:40] <usr13> duckfarts: Oh, well, that is a problem.
[00:40] <duckfarts> yes i see it
[00:40] <cfhowlett> on /dev/sdb1?  not on /dev/sdb?
[00:41] <eeee> /dev/sdb                      1004544   1004544         0 100% /cdrom
[00:41] <eeee> duckfarts: do you see a vmlinuz-... file ?
[00:41] <eeee> and initrd.img...?
[00:41]  * cfhowlett blushes furiously and comments not on that which he should not
[00:41] <usr13> duckfarts: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:41] <usr13> cfhowlett: Right?
[00:42] <duckfarts> eeee where in the root? no
[00:42] <eeee> duckfarts: in ls /boot
[00:42] <cfhowlett> usr13, /sda is the usual target, yes
[00:42] <zerodivided> having trouble setting up grub
[00:42] <cfhowlett> zerodivided, details?
[00:42] <zerodivided> ok I have an SSD with 3 partitions
[00:43] <zerodivided> and a fakeRaid with 1 partition
[00:43] <duckfarts> eeee no i don't
[00:43] <zerodivided>   /boot / and /steam are on SSD
[00:43] <zerodivided> and /home are on the raid array
[00:43] <usr13> duckfarts: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |grep sda1
[00:43] <duckfarts> i have a grub folder
[00:44] <zerodivided> so during installation the grub install failed
[00:44] <zerodivided> and I opted to create it manually
[00:44] <eeee> duckfarts: ok, sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:44] <zerodivided> which is where I'm stuck at
[00:44] <duckfarts> i did sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:44] <usr13> duckfarts: Ok, that should do it.
[00:44] <eeee> ok, any errors? i think you should get a msg about a missing initrd?
[00:44] <duckfarts> it didn't change anything in /root tho
[00:45] <eeee> duckfarts: you have to reinstall the kernel now
[00:45] <zerodivided> when I do a "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" I get error: failed to get canonical path of '/cow'
[00:45] <duckfarts> oh i see vmlinuz now
[00:45] <usr13> eeee: I think grub automatically applies  initrd   Right?
[00:45] <duckfarts> I have to reinstall it tho?
[00:46] <cosmicfire10> I got the XPS 13 Developer Edition with 12.04  and I want to upgrade to 14.04 but Dell and the Ubuntu website say that only 12.04 are certified. Is it safe to use 14.04?
[00:46] <eeee> i think he has to reinstall the kernel now
[00:46] <usr13> eeee: Really?
[00:46] <usr13> Why?
[00:46] <eeee> duckfarts: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic
[00:46] <usr13> eeee: Ok.
[00:47] <zerodivided> cfhowlett, any ideas?
[00:47] <usr13> duckfarts: Yea, reinstall the kernel and see if you get error.
[00:47] <eeee> zerodivided: you need to mount /proc and the rest
[00:47] <eeee> zerodivided:  for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[00:47] <duckfarts> hmmm i still got an error----- grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1.  Check your device.map.
[00:48] <cfhowlett> zerodivided, sorry.  I've never configured or touched SSD or raid, so unwise for me to advise.  ask again in channel
[00:48] <zerodivided> ok, thanks
[00:48] <eeee> zerodivided: run that after mounting the installation at /mnt
[00:48] <duckfarts> should I try rebooting without usb anyway?
[00:48] <zerodivided> ok
[00:49] <eeee> duckfarts: hold on
[00:49] <eeee> duckfarts: ls /boot ,
[00:49] <eeee> is there a initrd.img ?
[00:49] <duckfarts> yes
[00:49] <eeee> ok
[00:49] <zerodivided> eeee: done
[00:49] <cfhowlett> cosmicfire10, DELL has so far NOT made 14.04 an OEM.  Don't know why.   (Looking at YOU Barton George!).  14.04 will run, but you'll likely need to go back to DELL to get those nice drivers OR reinstall the DELL PPA's post 14.04 installation.
[00:50] <eeee> zerodivided: now chroot
[00:50] <zerodivided> ok
[00:50] <zerodivided> chrooted to /mnt
[00:50] <eeee> grub-install
[00:50] <zerodivided> install device isnt specified
[00:50] <cosmicfire10> cfhowlett, thanks!
[00:50] <eeee> you have to add the disk
[00:50] <eeee> sudo grub-install /dev/sdx
[00:50] <zerodivided> ahh
[00:50] <cfhowlett> cosmicfire10, happy2help
[00:51] <zerodivided> =D
[00:51] <zerodivided> Installation finished. No error reported
[00:51] <zerodivided> anything else before I reboot?
[00:51] <eeee> update-grub
[00:52] <zerodivided> Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported
[00:52] <eeee> no problem
[00:52] <zerodivided> grub-probe: errror: cannot find a GURB drive for /dev/sde1
[00:52] <zerodivided> sde1 is my live usb stick
[00:53] <eeee> yeah nevermind that i guess
[00:53] <zerodivided> Addinb boot menu entry for EFI firmwaree configuration
[00:53] <zerodivided> done
[00:53] <zerodivided> looks like it might have worked?
[00:53] <eeee> mm
[00:53] <eeee> :D
[00:53] <zerodivided> Lol
[00:53] <usr13> duckfarts: sudo grub-install /dev/sda  #Far as I know, that should do it.
[00:53] <zerodivided> Ill reboot and let you know. Thanks!
[00:53] <usr13> eeee: Right?
[00:53] <eeee> did you mount the efi partition?
[00:53] <eeee> zerodivided: after mounting /mnt ?
[00:54] <duckfartz> thanks eeee I got my computer booted from hard drive
[00:54] <zerodivided> eeee: ummm no
[00:54] <eeee> zerodivided: if you sudo parted -l
[00:54] <eeee> do you see a small fat32 partition ?
[00:55] <zerodivided> one moment, rebooting to live cd
[00:55] <eeee> duckfartz: great, np
[00:55] <netlar> Should I use the proprietary driver for my Radeon HD7750
[00:56] <duckfartz> hmm I have a new problem now
[00:56] <duckfartz> my laptop has a widescreen and ubuntu now seems to think its 4:3
[00:56] <duckfartz> so im getting a stretched 4:3 desktop
[00:57] <eeee> duckfartz: settings > display
[00:57] <duckfartz> and I have no option to change it in settings
[00:57] <eeee> duckfartz: xrandr
[00:57] <nothing> anyone in here able to help out with xmlstarlet?
[00:57] <Guest38397> bah
[00:57] <netlar> Is that driver stable for 14.04?
[00:58] <zpoepie> sex?
[00:58] <fearnothing> ffs
[00:58] <zerodivided> eeee: Error: Invalid arguement during seek for read on /dev/sda
[00:58] <duckfartz> eeee failed to get size of gamma for output default
[00:58] <zerodivided> do I need to remount everything and chroot?
[00:58] <eeee> zerodivided: yes
[00:58] <anothernothing> I'm trying to use xmlstarlet to query a document where there are multiple elements with the same name
[00:59] <anothernothing> so for example, within <list></list> I have four elements labelled <str></str>
[00:59] <usr13> duckfartz: xrandr
[00:59] <eeee> zerodivided: mount the efi partition to /mnt/boot/efi
[00:59] <usr13> duckfartz: What does that say?
[01:00] <zerodivided> eeee: ok as soon as I find it
[01:00] <anothernothing> I want to get the content of the fourth element where the first one is a specified value
[01:00] <richac> anyone know how I can stop all multicast address broadcasts from my box?
[01:00] <richac> i have them blocked with ufw and canceled out in the systemctl config file
[01:00] <usr13> duckfartz: You can do  xrandr -s ###x###
[01:00] <SamsonMcCarthy> Hello there evry one
[01:00] <richac> but its only being blocked,  and not totally disabled
[01:01] <netlar> I am scared the proprietary driver will mess up the system
[01:01] <richac> so it floods log, but i don't want to use a lower level logging for sanity
[01:01] <duckfartz> usr13 it says failed to get size of gamma for output displays
[01:01] <duckfartz> fug also my internet isn't working
[01:01] <duckfartz> i guess all my drivers are gone?
[01:01] <usr13> duckfartz: WiFi?
[01:01] <richac> or is there a way ufw can ignore certain logs,  like can be done with basic iptables?
[01:01] <duckfartz> wifi is kill
[01:02] <usr13> duckfartz: It's a laptop?
[01:02] <delinquentme> Im running a command ... How can I catch all of its output
[01:02] <duckfartz> ya
[01:02] <eeee> delinquentme: send it to a file you mean?
[01:02] <duckfartz> its not recognizing any networking devices
[01:03] <tanghao> i installed ubuntu14 in the virtualbox,but after i exit out from the virtualbox i cannot login the ubuntu ,it returns"... mnt..... / Keys: S   .......M......"
[01:03] <usr13> duckfartz: ifconfig
[01:03] <usr13> duckfartz: ?
[01:03] <tanghao> my host system is also ubuntu
[01:03] <anothernothing> guess nobody here knows about xmlstarlet?
[01:03] <zerodivided> eeee: I dont see a fat32 partition
[01:03] <usr13> duckfartz: We installed the wrong kernel I think.  We should have looked at the list.
[01:04] <xangua> ! Patience | anothernothing
[01:04] <duckfartz> ifconfig makes a list but doesnt show any devices
[01:04] <eeee> duckfartz: usr13 that's the latest one
[01:04] <duckfartz> oh i think that kernel was the one that didn't instal all the way because the boot partition was full
[01:04] <anothernothing> xangua - I know, but there's a lot of noise in here tonight :P
[01:04] <duckfartz> I need to install .34 I think
[01:05] <tanghao> had anyone met the same situation with me
[01:05] <tanghao> ?
[01:05] <duckfartz> I had .35 before though
[01:05] <duckfartz> like it was listed but maybe it didn't finish?
[01:05] <eeee> zerodivided: are you sure?
[01:05] <eeee> zerodivided: nothing that mentions an EFI partition?
[01:05] <usr13> duckfartz: I would say that you do not have kernel modules installed.
[01:06] <zerodivided> eeee: nothing
[01:06] <usr13> duckfartz: Or the kernel you have does not match the kernel modules you have.
[01:06] <duckfartz> are the kernel modules saved in the boot partition?
[01:06] <excelsiora> hello ubuntu, I have people asking me about a beginners course in Linux. Where should I point them? OS Programming course material? Training sites like Red Hat's?
[01:06] <richac> no tanghao i don't know why that is
[01:07] <richac> you can't log back into the virtual ubuntu you mean?
[01:08] <zerodivided> eeee: do you think it will work?
[01:08] <cfhowlett> tanghao, that will tanghao after 10 seconds or so
[01:08] <cfhowlett> *time out*
[01:08] <richac> ah there ya go
[01:08] <eeee> zerodivided: maybe
[01:08] <zerodivided> Ok, Ill reboot
[01:09] <eeee> are you on it now?
[01:09] <tanghao> wait for a moment ,i will sent you a picture
[01:09] <zerodivided> live cd
[01:09] <eeee> i mean chatting from it?
[01:09] <anothernothing> excelsiora: massively depends on what their background is
[01:09] <zerodivided> no, I'm on a laptop
[01:09] <eeee> oh ok
[01:09] <eeee> give it a shot
[01:10] <anothernothing> more input please. Are they windows geeks? basic users? networkers? complete computer beginners?
[01:10] <duckfartz> so what would be easiest thing for me to do? make backup and then install 14.04 from usb? go back and try to install the -34 kernel to see if it works?
[01:10] <zerodivided> fixed boot order...
[01:10] <usr13> duckfartz: No.  They are in /lib/modules/3.1?.?
[01:10] <usr13> duckfartz: Look and see
[01:10] <zerodivided> eeee: error: can't find command 'fwsetup'
[01:11] <usr13> duckfartz: Like I said, I think we just installed the wrong kernel.
[01:11] <eeee> zerodivided: is this a UEFI machine?
[01:11] <zerodivided> eeee: now I'm at an empty grub menu
[01:11] <zerodivided> yes, brand new mobo so I suppose so
[01:11] <usr13> duckfartz: /lib/modules/3.  #Hit the tab key couple times
[01:11] <usr13> duckfartz: What do you see...
[01:11] <cfhowlett> tanghao, Yes, I know the screen you.  I see it about once a month.  It should time out after 10 seconds.
[01:11] <eeee> ok, and why are you reinstalling grub?
[01:12] <richac> tanghao i just installed apparmor on pidgin its not letting me save that i'm sorry
[01:12] <zerodivided> during the installation of Ubuntu, it failed the grub install
[01:12] <richac> can you upload it to a site
[01:12] <duckfartz> i have modules for -35 and a bunch of other ones
[01:12] <eeee> zerodivided: how did you install it?
[01:12] <zerodivided> booted the live cd and clicked install
[01:12] <zerodivided> then I setup my own partitions
[01:12] <usr13> duckfartz: What are the latest ones?
[01:12] <eeee> zerodivided: did you create a EFI partition?
[01:12] <tanghao> cfhowlett, but i had already wait for 5min
[01:12] <zerodivided> no
[01:12] <eeee> was the cd booted in UEFI mode?
[01:13] <zerodivided> Not sure
[01:13] <cfhowlett> tanghao, ah, that is NOT normal.
[01:13] <usr13> duckfartz: So when you uninstalled kernels, did you use the package manager?  Or not?
[01:13] <zerodivided> How do I do that?
[01:13] <cfhowlett> tanghao, did it ever boot properly?
[01:13] <tanghao> yes
[01:13] <eeee> when the screen was loading, was there a tiny man at the bottom?
[01:13] <duckfartz> -32 to -35
[01:13] <eeee> zerodivided: from the bios
[01:13] <tanghao> cfhowlett, it login the system first time
[01:13] <zerodivided> hmm let me check
[01:13] <duckfartz> when I uninstalled the kernels i used apt-get remove
[01:14] <cfhowlett> tanghao, so ... ONE proper boot?  and then you did ... something.  right?
[01:14] <duckfartz> but i was making a list of old ones to remove and accidentally hit enter on 3.13.0 I think maybe is what happened
[01:14] <tanghao> cfhowlett, then i shared folders in the vbox
[01:14] <tanghao> cfhowlett, yes
[01:14] <richac> tanhao, i'm sorry if this is not related,  but sometimes things will change to root permissions
[01:14] <duckfartz> and then mabe it removed all the -34-generic etc
[01:14] <cfhowlett> tanghao, thus triggering the filesystem check.  unshare.  update/upgrade your guest.  reshare and test.
[01:14] <richac> if you load vm as root it will swith permissions and you ahve to switch them back
[01:14] <anothernothing> xmlstarlet question: using the following link as an example http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21729396/xmlstarlet-selecting-element-by-its-position-number how would I do the xmlstarlet equivalent of SELECT field[3] WHERE field[0]="Charterish"
[01:15] <richac> which happened to me when i had to be root to install the extensions
[01:15] <richac> sorry if not related i'm going to step out now
[01:15] <zerodivided> eeee: mobo setting => Boot Control device = UEFI and Legacy OPROM... should I set to UEFI only?
[01:15] <usr13> duckfartz: uname -a
[01:15] <mrwappie> clear
[01:15] <tanghao> cfhowlett, thx very much,iwill try to do follow your solutions
[01:15] <eeee> zerodivided: not sure
[01:16] <zerodivided> ill try it \
[01:16] <cfhowlett> tanghoao, happy2help.  hey, did you look at ubuntu-kylin yet?
[01:16] <duckfartz> it says 3.13.0-35-generic #62-ubuntu SMP Fri......etc
[01:16] <eeee> i think you should install
[01:17] <eeee> using an EFI partition
[01:17] <zerodivided> I'm going to delete all the partitions and start over
[01:17] <eeee> ok
[01:17] <tanghao> cfhowlett, yes
[01:17] <mrwappie> haha just did the same
[01:18] <tanghao> cfhowlett, my host is Xubuntu,and the guest in the vbox is ubuntu-kylin
[01:18] <cfhowlett> !who
[01:18] <cfhowlett> tanghao, 32bit guest, right?
[01:18] <tanghao> 64bit
[01:18] <guardianpwr081> hello, i am trying to clone a running ubuntu server using .... if the backup server is 1.1.1.1 and the live server is 2.2.2.2, do i have this command right? >>>> rsync -aHxv -p 22299 root@1.2.3.4:/* / <<<<
[01:19] <cfhowlett> tanghao, that there ... suggest you try 32 bit guest.
[01:19] <analogfreak> WHERE IS MY MAC ADDRESS???????
[01:19] <cfhowlett> tanghao, unless you have a lot of ram for the guest = 4 gigs?
[01:19] <cfhowlett> !caps | analogfreak
[01:19] <SenorSenpai> hey everyone, installed ubuntu 14.04 onto an external drive connected to my mac via booting a usb pen. after install the bootloader isnt detecting the newly installed drive as bootable, what can I do?
[01:19] <dustinspringman> analogfreak: all caps rage much? ifconfig should tell you.....
[01:19] <zerodivided> eeee: partitions have been deleted
[01:20] <analogfreak> ok thanks
[01:20] <analogfreak> it worked!
[01:20] <tanghao> cfhowlett, i have a computer with 4G ram,the cpu is intel 1007u
[01:20] <compdoc> guardianpwr081, not sure you can clone a system that way
[01:20] <eeee> zerodivided: ok, now create a 300MB EFI partition
[01:20] <zerodivided> ok
[01:20] <cfhowlett> tanghao, and 64 bit likes to have at least 3 gigs of ram to run.  so your GUEST has less than 3 gigs, right?
[01:21] <zerodivided> eeee: done, should I create a / , /boot ,  swap and /home like before?
[01:21] <eeee> it's up to you, you can create a swap and /
[01:21] <zerodivided> ok
[01:22] <eeee> or /home and /boot also i guess
[01:22] <eeee> zerodivided: how much RAM do you have?
[01:22] <zerodivided> 16 GB
[01:22] <eeee> ok, swap should be around 18 i guess
[01:23] <eeee> it'll more or less be used for hibernation
[01:24] <zerodivided> eeee: ok, i have an EFI, /, swap and /home partition set
[01:24] <eeee> ok
[01:24] <duckfartz> do i need to boot from usb again so i have internet access again or can i fix my modules from terminal without internets?
[01:24] <zerodivided> installing..
[01:24] <eeee> ok
[01:25] <eeee> duckfartz: did you try sudo service network-manager start ?
[01:26] <usr13> duckfartz: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.13.65.what.ever.it.is
[01:26] <tanghao> cfhowlett, sorry,my english is poor,i dont really understand the word gigs
[01:26] <tanghao> cfhowlett, i got it
[01:26] <tanghao> thx for remind me
[01:26] <tanghao> i set the guest with 1G ram,but i installed a 64bit kylin into it
[01:26] <tanghao> chmaybe, this is the reason...thx
[01:26] <usr13> eeee: I think the problem is that he has no access to any of his kernel modules
[01:27] <cfhowlett> tanghao, go to your computer store.  find ONE computer that runs 64 bit but has only 1 gig of ram.  (Answer = NONE)
[01:27] <usr13> eeee: They are there but not in use.
[01:27] <cfhowlett> tanghao, for your guest OS, 32 bit.
[01:27] <zerodivided> eeee: Installer crashed
[01:27] <duckfartz> eeee its already running
[01:27] <eeee> zerodivided: doing what?
[01:28] <zerodivided> looked like it finished up grub and then crashed. Not sure what it was doing
[01:28] <duckfartz> usr13 dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic ?
[01:28] <usr13> eeee: /usr/lib/modules/3.13.65/  #Or something like that.  They are there but not being used.
[01:28] <richac> i guess he thought maybe possible in a vm though
[01:28] <tanghao> cfhowlett, yes, i forgot this point just before
[01:28] <usr13> duckfartz: Yes
[01:28] <eeee> duckfartz: ok, so less /var/log/syslog ? anything about wifi?
[01:28] <richac> usually its the bios that messes that up
[01:29] <richac> i lxde with windows xp running a vm
[01:29] <tanghao> cfhowlett, you are greatful
[01:29] <richac> and 1gb of pc4200 ram
[01:29] <richac> tanhao means hes grateful
[01:29] <richac> *tanghao
[01:29] <cfhowlett> tanghao, ... OK.  Thanks.
[01:30] <usr13> duckfartz: Did that do anything?
[01:30] <tortib> Has anyone used roundcube 1.0.2 ?
[01:31] <erikk> Any way to resize my firefox title bar in Ubuntu Gnome or is that a setting controlled by the de?
[01:31] <duckfartz> usr13 yes it did
[01:31] <eeee> zerodivided: any luck booting into it?
[01:31] <duckfartz> and i restarted and have the same problems
[01:31] <zerodivided> eeee: yeah it just booted
[01:31] <cfhowlett> tanghao, PM?
[01:31] <zerodivided> weird
[01:31] <tanghao> cfhowlett, you are my sky,take me to fly
[01:31] <eeee> zerodivided: i think the last steps are removing the software of the liveusb, like gparted
[01:32] <tanghao> cfhowlett, here is in the morning in the middle of china
[01:32] <eeee> lol
[01:32]  * eeee rofls
[01:32] <cfhowlett> tanghao, you're a poet and don't know it.
[01:32] <zerodivided> eeee: ok seems to be working fine\
[01:32] <zerodivided> eeee: thanks for the help, where should I send the beer?
[01:33] <eeee> hehe
[01:33] <eeee> no problem, any time
[01:33] <usr13> duckfartz: ifconfig
[01:33] <usr13> duckfartz: Anything?
[01:33] <duckfartz> usr13 yes
[01:34] <usr13> duckfartz: eth0?
[01:34] <Guest87577> anyone know if there is a torrent out there of the archives?
[01:34] <duckfartz> usr13 no
[01:34] <Guest87577> like a snapshot of it
[01:34] <usr13> duckfartz: wlan0 ?
[01:34] <Guest87577> so i dont have to spend two weeks rsync'ing the entire arch lol o.O
[01:34] <usr13> duckfartz: What do you have there?
[01:34] <duckfartz> usr13 no the first line is Link encap:Local Loopback
[01:35] <usr13> duckfartz: Nothing more.... right?
[01:35] <gorelative_home> beuler?
[01:35] <duckfartz> usr13 and then it tells me my local host and zero packets and shit
[01:36] <gorelative_home> curious if there is a bt sync out there for the arch
[01:37] <SchrodingersScat> what does that mean
[01:37] <monoxyde> window goto 5
[01:37] <monoxyde> ergh
[01:37] <usr13> duckfartz: sudo fdisk -l   #Is your 575G root partition on hda5 ?
[01:40] <duckfartz> usr13 sda5 is Linux LVM
[01:41] <duckfartz> usr13 so yes I think
[01:41] <duckfartz> usr13 one interesting thing it says is Disk /dev/mapper/ubuntu - -vg - root doesn't contain a valid partition table
[01:42] <duckfartz> usr13 and /dev/mapper/ubuntu - -vg-swap_1 doesn't either
[01:46] <usr13> duckfartz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[01:48] <richac> what services should i add to apparmor?
[01:48] <duckfartz> usr13 my chroot procedure wasn't standard right?
[01:48] <usr13> duckfartz: Use the above information to mount and chroot to your root filesystem (sda5).  From there, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:49] <duckfartz> oh ya root system
[01:49] <duckfartz> ok
[01:50] <usr13> duckfartz: sda5 I think
[01:51] <usr13> duckfartz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot  #This is the one you need.
[01:52] <usr13> duckfartz: Pay particular attention to " mount the /proc filesystem in the chroot"
[01:52] <usr13> duckfartz: The section on "Setting-up the chroot"
[01:53] <usr13> duckfartz: Reinstall the kernel and then do updates
[01:54] <usr13> duckfartz: Do exactly as it says in the section "Setting-up the chroot"
[02:00] <richac> there is some ip's I don't want to log with ufw,  is it possible,  or is that a silly question and I should just iptables.
[02:00] <richac> i don't want to go out of promiscuous mode, just want to ignore like for instance the cable boxes in my house getting logged lol
[02:01] <richac> that one master cable box man,  scares the crap out of me
[02:01] <tanghao> dear friends,how to set the default encoding in ubuntu14
[02:02] <richac> are you talking about programming language,  or media? lol
[02:03] <richac> converting?
[02:03] <richac>  fonts?  i'm sorry if I'm noob
[02:03] <tanghao> program language
[02:03] <richac> oh then i can't help you i'm sorry
[02:04] <tanghao> not at all,thx for your reply
[02:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[02:04] <tanghao> let me feeling i am online
[02:05] <godbod> Hi, can someone give me the test channel please ?
[02:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> I installed both gnutls-bin and libgnutls-dev but I still get this error:
[02:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> Sorry, but I couldn't detect GnuTLS. Make sure gnutls-config is in your path.
[02:05] <godbod> is that #test ?
[02:05] <usr13> godbod: /join #test
[02:05] <usr13> yes
[02:05] <godbod> or #flood ?...
[02:05] <godbod> oh okay
[02:06] <godbod> Thanks
[02:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> any ideas?
[02:09] <tanghao> MDTech-us_MAN, sorry to tell you that  i have no ideas
[02:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> none at all?
[02:10] <tanghao> MDTech-us_MAN, i am a noob
[02:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[02:10] <voidfire> is there a php5-mongo package in the repos? I cant seem to find it
[02:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> anyone else?
[02:11] <tanghao> i MDTech-us_MAN ,i cant get the package in the software center!
[02:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> :|
[02:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> tanghao, you have a lot to learn my friend
[02:13] <Jonii> I have a problem. A program says it cant work because it cant locate libudev.so.0. From my googling, it looks like this library was removed from Ubuntu with 13.04. Can I do something to make this program run?
[02:13] <tanghao> MDTech-us_MAN, ok,thx
[02:13] <Jonii> Basically I think I'm asking is, could I just get libudev.so.0 from somewhere and be done with it?
[02:14] <goldenfox> Jonii, have you tried this sudo apt-get install libudev0:i386
[02:14] <Jonii> Does it have to be 32bit thing?
[02:15] <Jonii> goldenfox: anyhow, that's kinda what I was trying to confirm if doing that would be safe :3
[02:15] <goldenfox> are you on 64bit?
[02:15] <Jonii> goldenfox: yeah
[02:15] <goldenfox> try this, sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1.3.5 /usr/lib/libudev.so.0
[02:15] <goldenfox> assuming you have a libudev.so.1.3.5
[02:17] <Jonii> goldenfox: that worked
[02:17] <Jonii> I don't quite understand what just happened, but it worked
[02:18] <rasteroid> one of three desktops will not run with nvidia, it is the only upgrade from precise; all fresh installs have no major issues
[02:18] <anothernothing> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25706468/query-an-xml-document-with-multiple-identically-named-elements-in-bash
[02:18] <goldenfox> Jonii, it just created a symbolic link to libudev.so.1.3.5
[02:18] <rasteroid> recent system upgrades have affected audio functionalty; audio sub-system no longer functions
[02:19] <anothernothing> posted my xmlstarlet question on stackexchange
[02:19] <anothernothing> if anyone knows xmlstarlet could they take a look please
[02:19] <rasteroid> if the audio doesn't work, and i can't use nvidia, why am i using ubuntu?
[02:20] <rasteroid> sorry, but this is not what i need to be doing right now ;-)
[02:24] <Ritlee> hoping for help, but not quite for ubuntu, any clue about this message while trying to start Transmission on my DNS 343 i get this error:  evmap.c:401: Assertion ctx failed in evmap_io_active
[02:26] <rasteroid> Ritlee: what is DNS 341? the error seems to indicate that the context of a map, ie. key -> value structure, is invalid at the moment when this code is trying to do something, eg. alter, the map in question.
[02:27] <Ritlee> rasteroid: DNS 343 is a Dlink 4 bay nas, with Fonz Fun Plug installed... linux yes, ubuntu no... their channel has no one active for help, and the forum is SLOW...
[02:28] <Ritlee> rasteroid, so you think the command used to initialize Transmission might have bad input (map?)
[02:29] <rasteroid> Ritlee: did you try googling evmap.c:401'? if someone else has seen this issue they would have used that as part of their search terms'
[02:29] <Ritlee> rasteroid, hmmm google... some times that eludes me ;)
[02:31] <rasteroid> Ritlee: it seems to be a 12-month or so old problem in transmission.
[02:31] <foodre85> on a fresh install of ubuntu the backports (unsupported) repo is enabled for updates by default. Does this mean every fresh install installs unsupported packages?
[02:31] <Ritlee> I'm seeing that... though not seeing the fix
[02:33] <rasteroid> Ritlee: the call invokes something in libevent; that's where the map is, but there's nothing more that i can fidn
[02:33] <rasteroid> s/fidn/find
[02:33] <OerHeks> foodre85, good question, i noticed backports enabled by default too
[02:34] <foodre85> OerHeks, it's been like this for previous distro versions of ubuntu too
[02:34] <Ritlee> rasteroid, yeah... kinda wondering about trying an older version of libevent
[02:38] <OerHeks> foodre85, up to 11.04 , apt defaulted to always installing packages from Backports. On later releases,  apt only installs packages from Backports when they are explicitly requested
[02:38] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Using_Backports
[02:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> what package does gnutls-config belong to?
[02:41] <foodre85> OerHeks, ty
[02:41] <cfhowlett> MDTech-us_MAN, run a terminal:   apt-cache show gnutls-config
[02:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> Unable to locate package gnutls-config
[02:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> cfhowlett
[02:43] <cfhowlett> MDTech-us_MAN, try a wildcard for the filename: gnutls*
[02:48] <Timoty> Hi, is there any linux command to see an image?
[02:48] <Timoty> $ cmd <path_to_image>
[02:49] <sydney> Timoty: What do you mean by 'image'?
[02:49] <Timoty> an image (.png, .jpeg, ...)
[02:49] <SchrodingersScat> Timoty: not sure what ubuntu comes with by default now, but yes, normally you can call commands from the terminal like that and give the path of an image
[02:49] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/97542/how-do-i-make-my-terminal-display-graphical-pictures
[02:50] <OerHeks> i would choose caca-utils, so you can play a video in terminal too
[02:52] <Timoty> good
[02:52] <xangua> Good thing you don't know what that lib means
[02:52] <Timoty> I trying to find a command that comes with linux thoH
[02:54] <OerHeks> Timoty, wa]
[02:54] <OerHeks> Timoty, what ubuntu version are you using now?
[02:58] <Timoty> 14.04LTS
[02:58] <Timoty> why ?
[02:58] <sydney> That often help solve things or answer questions :)
[02:59] <CarlFK> Timoty: display
[03:00] <Timoty> I got it
[03:00] <Timoty> eog is installed by default, so I am gonna use that H
[03:01] <Timoty> display doesn't exist
[03:01] <CarlFK> ah right, it's part of imagemagick
[03:01] <bwright> Hello.
[03:01] <bwright> Where does libboost-all-dev install it used to be /usr/lib/boost
[03:02] <xangua> I thought your goal was "to see images in terminal"
[03:02] <bwright> But it appears not to install there anymore?
[03:03] <Timoty> from terminal command
[03:03] <Timoty> xangua I just wanted to see and image typing a linux commandP
[03:04] <bwright> So sick of ubuntu messing with dev shit every release.
[03:05] <cfhowlett> bwright, use LTS then
[03:05] <CarlFK> cfhowlett: that won't stop what he is sick of :)
[03:05] <kdef> When I run 'python3.4 -m venv --clear myvenv' I get this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1290847 Anyone have any ideas? I'm on 14.04.1
[03:06] <bwright> cfhowlett: I do, don't worry it isn't a unique issue to ubuntu most linux distros do it.
[03:06] <cfhowlett> bwright, true, true ...
[03:07] <bwright> cfhowlett: Been using ubuntu since 2007, just been pissing me off the last 2 years :P
[03:08] <bwright> Just slightly less than other distros though :P
[03:09] <bwright> /usr/lib/boost doesn't exist after an install of libboost-all-dev
[03:09] <bwright> ??
[03:12] <OerHeks> bwright, maybe in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/449348/why-are-boost-package-libs-installed-to-usr-x86-64-linux-gnu
[03:23] <leeyaa> hello
[03:23] <leeyaa> how can i check if there is .deb package for Linux::Pid module ?
[03:35] <cfischer> Hi there, I want to know when I'll be able to use Wayland on Ubuntu
[03:39] <allu2> cfischer: isn't wayland already in the repos?
[03:41] <rww> allu2: no, it isn't.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !info wayland
[03:41] <allu2> I assumed since weston seems to be there
[03:41] <cfhowlett> cfischer, "when it's done" ...
[03:41] <allu2> !info weston
[03:42] <rww> or rather, last time I looked there wasn't a working wayland implementation. perhaps i am wrong now.
[03:44] <y3gang> can anybody recommend some document or book? I want to know layers on linux such as shell, display manager, DE... I am so confused about these things.
[03:45] <cfhowlett> !manual | y3gang,
[03:45] <Basketballl> eeee, you here
[03:45] <charles26> any body in there
[03:46] <y3gang> thank you
[03:46] <SchrodingersScat> charles26: ground control to major tom
[03:46] <cfhowlett> charles26, nope.  no one ... oh, wait; counter says only a few thousand ...
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !ask | charles26,
[03:46] <charles26> yeah but they are ghosts
[03:47] <SchrodingersScat> spooky mode
[03:47] <rww> boo.
[03:47] <SchrodingersScat> g-g-g-g-g-ghost!
[03:48] <MonkeyDrone> someone called the ghost busters?
[03:49] <Bashing-om> y3gang: Nother good one: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty .
[03:49] <y3gang> oh I will read them too
[03:49] <y3gang> thank you
[03:49] <MonkeyDrone> new to Ubuntu y3gang? just curious here
[03:49] <y3gang> nope
[03:50] <MonkeyDrone> Cool cool
[03:50] <Daryl> How does 1 become a Ubuntu Member?
[03:51] <rww> Daryl: read the link ubottu already gave you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <Daryl> oh ok thx
[03:51] <cfhowlett> Daryl, reading the links is a HUGE advantage to membership.  just sayin ...
[03:52] <Basketballl> hey cfhowlett  is the install any different 12.04 on a windows 8.1 preloaded pc
[03:52] <MonkeyDrone> the day developers support linux in the full sense, would be just great
[03:52] <Daryl> Ya... Just wasn't paying attention to the Link
[03:52] <cfhowlett> Basketballl, it is.  your 8.1 computer runs uefi.  slightly more complicated.
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !uefi | Daryl
[03:55] <Basketballl> cfhowlett, is there a command that tells you if you have uefi or bios
[03:55] <cfhowlett> Basketballl, 8.1 = you have EFI
[03:55] <Daryl> Oh i mean not like Installing Ubuntu on my comp i already have it installed 14.04 LTS. I mean part of the Whole team wise to be part of something like Helping Ubuntu Build stuff
[03:55] <Basketballl> cfhowlett, windows 8 was not preinstalled i was confused with friends pc
[03:56] <Basketballl> cfhowlett, windows 7 was preinstalled
[03:56] <cfhowlett> Basketballl, you give bad details you get bad answers
[03:56] <Basketballl> cfhowlett,  lets start over
[03:56] <cfhowlett> :)
[03:56] <cfhowlett> Basketballl, win7 = mbr.  straight and easy dual boot installation
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | Basketballl
[03:57] <Basketballl> cfhowlett,  so even if it has windows 8.1 now it is still bios
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Basketballl, nope nope and nope.  if it's 8.1 capable, it has efi.
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Basketballl: Here is a fairly descent guide I jyst ran across -: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html . The author fails to mention defragging and chkdisk !
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, thanks!
[03:58] <rww> Windows 7 can run on UEFI. Windows 8 can run on BIOS. I have done both.
[03:58] <cfhowlett> rww, *spit*  WHAT!?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: :D ... My bit to try and help, and a bit of pay back to all of yall .
[03:59] <cfhowlett> Basketballl, appears I gave misinformation.  deepest apologies.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> rww, can you give Basketballl more guidance?
[04:00] <Basketballl> rww,  the pc is a Acer Aspire X1420G
[04:00] <rww> Basketballl: The link cfhowlett gave you details various ways to see if your computer is running under UEFI mode.
[04:00] <rww> I would recommend actually reading it.
[04:02] <jcool> how can we solve purple screen error? When windows boots after grub purple screen shows. This is happening after ubuntu 14.04 LTS install.
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | jcool,
[04:02] <rww> Basketballl: That said, the manual for the Aspire X1400 implies it has BIOS, not UEFI. Not sure if the same is true of the X1420G.
[04:03] <john_rambo> I closed the psad configuration (in terminal) by mistake. How do I restart the process ?
[04:03] <hexacode> is creating a custom linux iso as simple, as mounting it, and perhaps placing some ami specific startup scripts in certain places, then burning the iso to a usb?
[04:03] <DrManhattan> I am going to use Ubuntu 14.04 and am currently setting it up for use with Plex media server. Should I use the desktop or server kernel?
[04:04] <jcool> cfhowlett, that seems to be a helpful post. will try it out :)
[04:04] <Basketballl> anyone kknow how to fix this https://plus.google.com/115845578186971249788/posts/X6xMRcW9cim
[04:04] <Basketballl> same issue with deb and ppa
[04:05] <esaie> 3
[04:05] <cfhowlett> jcool, wishing you luck.  bring back an update.
[04:05] <phunyguy> DrManhattan: not entirely sure the kernel matters there
[04:05] <jcool> cfhowlett, sure.thanks for the same.
[04:05] <rww> phunyguy: (you're still opped up)
[04:06] <phunyguy> no I'm not
[04:06] <samthewildone> are the ubuntu soruces flooded ?
[04:06] <samthewildone> I've noticed earlier today that downloading has become very slow from various sources.
[04:07] <esaie> 3
[04:07] <phunyguy> esaie: can we help you with something?
[04:07] <esaie> iam new to linux
[04:08] <cfhowlett> !manual | esaie,
[04:08] <phunyguy> ok :).... welcome
[04:08] <esaie> yes it's
[04:09] <Dexonaut> blah
[04:09] <esaie>  i like linux  best than windows
[04:10] <phunyguy> esaie: we can discuss that more in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:10] <esaie> ok
[04:10] <phunyguy> esaie: this is a support channel
[04:10] <allu2> hexacode: I think there are some tools for making custom linux iso's, and I remember that you might also need to mess up with some checksum hashes or stuff when you add things in the iso
[04:10] <esaie> it fun to using
[04:10] <cfhowlett> esaie, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:11] <esaie> i have go now
[04:11] <phunyguy> k, bye :)
[04:12] <esaie> bed time
[04:14] <treloool> Bashing-om: On that link you gave you mention that the author fails to mention defragging and chkdisk. When should these 2 items be done? On Windows I assume.
[04:15] <cfhowlett> treloool, no need for defragging linux and chkdsk is a windows command.
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !defrag | treloool
[04:16] <SNAFUdowser> I've just got my Ubuntu install and I'm having problems getting the graphics drivers working.  When I boot it's a black screen.  Then when I boot nomodeset, install the Nvidia drivers, and reboot it starts hanging during the start up.  I can't even boot into text mode.  Are there any other drivers I can try?  What can I do?  Help greatly appreciated! :D
[04:16] <treloool> Thanks cfhowlett.
[04:16] <cfhowlett> treloool, happy2hlep
[04:16] <cfhowlett> *happy2help*
[04:19] <rodrigo_ds7> Hi!!!
[04:19] <allu2> SNAFUdowser: Ubuntu version? Nvidia Card model?
[04:19] <rodrigo_ds7> GTX 780
[04:19] <samthewildone> rodrigo_ds7, new gpu ?
[04:19] <rodrigo_ds7> On ubuntu 14.04
[04:19] <rodrigo_ds7> Yeah
[04:19] <samthewildone> rodrigo_ds7, nice man.
[04:19] <allu2> :P I asked SNAFUdowser
[04:20] <samthewildone> I'm jealous... I'm on the HD7700
[04:20] <samthewildone> rodrigo_ds7, any chance you have steam ?
[04:20] <rodrigo_ds7> Also works great with Steam OS
[04:20] <samthewildone> figures....
[04:20] <samthewildone> add me asap @ samthewildone
[04:20] <allu2> #ubuntu-offtopic please samthewildone, rodrigo_ds7
[04:20] <Bashing-om> treloool: I am a firm believer in defraggin window at leat twice prioe to resizing, and chkdisk also at least twice after resizing ( partition table) and rebooting Windows at least twice,
[04:21] <cfhowlett> treloool, windows will like force a chkdsk anyway
[04:21] <treloool> Bashing-om: Thanks for that.
[04:22] <Bashing-om> treloool: - just my thoughts -
[04:24] <Basketballl> anyone kknow how to fix this https://plus.google.com/115845578186971249788/posts/X6xMRcW9cim
[04:25] <allu2> Basketballl: this isn't elementary support channel :/
[04:25] <Basketballl> it is happening in both elementary and ubuntu]
[04:26] <allu2> Show me pictured of it happening in Ubuntu then
[04:26] <xangua> Libre office icons working fine in unity
[04:37] <fishcooker> i have dvd disc which contains video  .. how to make backup to iso file?
[04:38] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, brasero
[04:38] <allu2> fishcooker: did you try the disks utility?
[04:39] <fishcooker> nope im on 14.04 allu2.. i will inspect it cfhowlett
[04:39] <allu2> fishcooker: I'm on 14.04 too :P
[04:40] <fishcooker> hey allu2 do you use lightdm too?
[04:40] <allu2> fishcooker: Yeap I indeed do, any questions on it?
[04:42] <fishcooker> i have problem on login screen after i do suspend .. i cant input my password sometimes i need to login on console by pressing ctrl+alt+f1/f2/f3.. do login there as root and do service lightdm restart
[04:42] <allu2> hum suspend problems tend to be tricky, have you tried if its enough just to switch to f1 and then back to f7?
[04:45] <Corvette> In Unity on 14.04, is there a way to make the menu open in the 'apps' category rather than the 'home' or 'recents' category?
[04:45] <allu2> Corvette: super+a I believe
[04:46] <Corvette> That will open the menu in apps category once
[04:46] <Corvette> Right? How do I make it do that every time
[04:48] <fishcooker> ok allu2 i will make it next time thanks for sharing
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> howcome CUPS doesnt show in the startup items list to disable?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> im trying to tweak unwanted services to speed up boot time
[04:56] <SNAFUdowser> allu2: Sorry dude this is so late, but GTX 760 and Ubuntu 14.04
[04:56] <goodwin> screen or tmux?
[04:56] <SNAFUdowser> tmux!
[04:56] <goodwin> why?
[04:57] <SNAFUdowser> Newer?  Honestly I have no idea haha I've just been told tmux and I've used it and enjoyed it greatly.
[04:57] <SNAFUdowser> And I use it*
[04:58] <goodwin> i am new to screen/tmux. i need to choose one
[04:59] <goodwin> it seems screen is newer than tmux
[04:59] <SNAFUdowser> What?  really??  lemme see thats suprising to me
[05:00] <SNAFUdowser> Check this out http://superuser.com/questions/236158/tmux-vs-screen
[05:00] <SNAFUdowser> "GNU Screen is almost 25 years old"
[05:00] <SNAFUdowser> Tmux is deff newer
[05:01] <rww> goodwin: it doesn't matter. pick one at random and stick with it
[05:01] <rww> @random tmux screen
[05:01] <rww> there.
[05:01] <SNAFUdowser> good choice ubottu
[05:04] <SNAFUdowser> I've just got my Ubuntu install and I'm having problems getting the graphics drivers working.  When I boot it's a black screen.  Then when I boot nomodeset, install the Nvidia drivers, and reboot it starts hanging during the start up.  I can't even boot into text mode.  Are there any other drivers I can try?  What can I do?  I have GTX 760 and Ubuntu 14.04
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> SNAFUdowser: is that an optimus card?
[05:07] <SNAFUdowser> lotuspsychje: Not sure I'll check it out.  I think it's just like a close to stock evga 760 gtx.  But I'll make sure
[05:07] <SNAFUdowser> Oh!
[05:07] <SNAFUdowser> No it's not a 760m
[05:08] <SNAFUdowser> It's just a plane 760 in my desktop.
[05:08] <SNAFUdowser> plain*
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !optimus | SNAFUdowser
[05:10] <SNAFUdowser> lotuspsychje, I don't think it is optimus though.  Sorry if I wasn't clear.
[05:11] <SNAFUdowser> (or am I wrong?)
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> SNAFUdowser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218964
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> sounds like your card no?
[05:16] <allu2> Ok so now I got the answer for this Corvette guy and he's gone..
[05:17] <SNAFUdowser> lotuspsychje: I don't think I have the optimus card, and the symptoms are actually not exactly the same, because I can't even get into the login screen to have a login loop.  After installing the nvidia drivers I literally can't even see the splash screen.
[05:18] <SNAFUdowser> It's just a blinking cursor.
[05:18] <allu2> SNAFUdowser: have you tried the nvidia's own installation script?
[05:18] <SNAFUdowser> I haven't actually.  That could help?  I'll try it but if it fails I think I might have to reinstall lol.
[05:19] <allu2> SNAFUdowser: well yeah, its kinda "last hope" :P
[05:19] <allu2> you could also try nouveau :P
[05:20] <SNAFUdowser> allu2: Is nouveau what is installed by default?  Because that's not working at all either :/ lol
[05:22] <allu2> SNAFUdowser: if I read correctly it ought to be supported by nouveau http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/#nve0familykepler
[05:23] <SNAFUdowser> allu2: I'm checking it out.
[05:25] <allu2> SNAFUdowser: based on http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_700_nouveau&num=1 I also suspect the binary drivers from nvidia should work with 14.04
[05:26] <TechHysteria> how do i fix laggy effects?
[05:27] <pfsense_rookie> TechHysteria, in the brain?
[05:27] <TechHysteria> lol
[05:28] <TechHysteria> i ran compiz --replace but that didn't work
[05:29] <SNAFUdowser> allu2: Cool I'll need a few to try some of this out.  I think I'll try Nouveau first because it looks a little easier to install ;)
[05:30] <allu2> SNAFUdowser: be aware nouveau doesn't offer same 3D performance as binary ones though
[05:38] <SNAFUdowser> allu2: Jesus ok well.................. it looks like God is telling me to not run linux.  Installed nouveau and boom now can't boot, even in recovery.  I've prolly spent 60 hours trying to install Linux on this desktop, no joke.  I guess it's just not meant to be.  GG NO RE good night people and sorry for all the questions which ended up not helping.  OY!
[05:41] <linagee> I've lost the top bar on Xbuntu (xfce), anyone know how to get it back?
[05:41] <gorgath> Hi
[05:42] <gorgath> I want to install a mainline kernel, how do I setup the kernel with grub?
[05:42] <gorgath> It's the bleeding edge kernel
[05:43] <gorgath> !mainline
[05:43] <gorgath> !kernel
[05:43] <gorgath> !grub
[05:48] <samuel_> some one has a good reason to install Ubuntu and not mint ???
[05:49] <OerHeks> sure.
[05:49] <pfsense_rookie> samuel_, if you mean Linux Mint Debian, you should.
[05:50] <OerHeks> now go ask in the mint channel :-D
[05:50] <lea_> samuel_ you could try Elementary Os
[05:50] <allu2> samuel_: Ubuntu = More users, more likely someone has had your future problem already and that the fix for it works for you too
[05:54] <samuel_> and what about amazon ??  i know you can uninstall but you'll trust it if one of the best hackers ever says it's not good ??
[05:55] <OerHeks> one of the best hackers, so so
[05:55] <OerHeks> do you have an ubuntu support question? this is rather boring
[05:55] <allu2> samuel_: I fail to see how I should trust mint any more with their own softwares which sources I've never looked at, and I doubt you will ether :P
[05:56] <allu2> samuel_: if you wish to polish your tin hat I suggest looking into LFS project
[06:01] <samuel_> Tks allu2 always is good to read a good opinion ;)
[06:06] <stapler117> where can i find documentation on installing ubuntu to and booting from an iscsi target?
[06:06] <stapler117> target is IET
[06:07] <stapler117> the problem I'm having is IET is throwing ubuntu an error on boot that the target is already in use. I assure you no other device is using that target
[06:08] <stapler117> A work around I have right now is to have two separate targets. one for /boot and one for / . The boot time isci initiator pulls from the /boot target. This will get it to boot, but not without manual intervetion and skipping mounting the /boot partition.
[06:08] <linuxyogi> Hi! I need an apparmor profile for Transmission (Ubuntu 14.04) ...Searched a lot ...If any one has created one please share it
[06:09] <Lildirt> Hm, I'm having some issues with configuring my monitors. Seems like display just stops functioning altogether whenever I apply settings.. it's not every time, it's random.
[06:09] <Lildirt> Anyone ever had an issue like this?
[06:09] <Lildirt> I'm on a LiveCD, if that's important.
[06:19] <user123321> Greetings Ubuntians.
[06:40] <helmut_> hi
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[06:48] <samba35> i am trying to minidlna on ubuntu 14.04 ,i have installed extra package  ,i am getting parsing error file /etc/minidlna.conf line 67 : listening_ip= x.x.x.x
[06:49] <gorgath> How do I configure grub2 to boot my custom kernel
[06:50] <netlar> I am trying to play a mp4 video with VLC and I am getting this http://imgur.com/9j2ZsNh What could be causing this problem
[06:51] <netlar> Like so much ghosting
[06:52] <allu2> netlar: have you tried changing video output?
[06:53] <allu2> gl, xv, X11 so on?
[06:53] <netlar> allu2: the video track?
[06:55] <allu2> netlar: Tools --> Preferences --> Video --> Output
[06:55] <__marco> Good morning. I would like to install the xubuntu environment beside the ubuntu's one. Is it enough to install xfce?
[06:56] <allu2> __marco: that depends on what you really want
[06:56] <naphstor> hey suggest me an anti virus for ubantu 13.10
[06:56] <netlar> allu2: ok I am there
[06:56] <naphstor> ????
[06:56] <allu2> naphstor: need none, but I hear avast offers something, then there is clamav
[06:57] <netlar> allu2: and I see, Video --> Deinterlacing and Mode
[06:57] <allu2> netlar: try switching between X11, OpenGL and XVideo saving and seeing if it works after
[06:57] <netlar> ahh ok
[06:57] <__marco> allu2: I need to test a program written with gtk2 that does not work anymore on ubuntu 14.04. ubuntu 14.04 is really slow on virtualbox (first reason to use xubuntu) and I need anyway to test the program in xubuntu and ubuntu
[06:58] <naphstor> ok ,but when i use pen drive so its file will be shorcut mood for other pc
[06:58] <naphstor> ???
[06:58] <OerHeks> 13.10 is EOL
[06:58] <__marco> but I don't want to create two different virtual machines
[06:58] <allu2> __marco: sure you can just install xfce4 and test with it
[06:59] <netlar> allu2: Would I use a certain output if I am using the open source video driver?
[06:59] <allu2> netlar: honestly I usually just switch and try few randomly and it usually helps
[06:59] <netlar> allu2: I got it to work, thanks for your help
[07:00] <allu2> netlar: Great, no problem :)
[07:00] <__marco> allu2: I am not really practice with xfce. I know there are/were many gnome-* packages needed to make gnome2 works. So, is the xfce4 package enough?
[07:00] <naphstor> allu2: when i install window7 in vertual box so it cant be completed?????how i can install window7 in vertual box??
[07:01] <allu2> __marco: I assume xfce installs the desktop (stuff like xfwm4, xfce4-panel and so o n)
[07:01] <netlar> allu2: I have one other display problem, more of an annoyance that a problem and only with Google Chrome
[07:02] <__marco> allu2: ok, thanks
[07:02] <netlar> allu2: When I resize the window, there is lots of distortion during the resizing
[07:03] <allu2> netlar: first idea, try firefox :P hum but honestly  chrome://flags might have some graphical options that might help
[07:03] <netlar> allu2: Yes firefox does not have that problem
[07:04] <allu2> naphstor: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=installing%20windows%207%20virtualbox%20ubuntu
[07:05] <netlar> allu2: wow there are so many flags
[07:05] <allu2> netlar: yeah there is all sorts of cool and unstable stuff there :D
[07:05] <netlar> allu2: ewww hate that word, unstable
[07:06] <allu2> netlar: Usually its kinda like "it works awesomely" or "It doesn't work" :P
[07:06] <allu2> netlar: I haven't have any "this kinda works but might crash anymoment" experiences
[07:07] <allu2> netlar: but then again, I've been a firefox user since they got sense in the sync part
[07:07] <netlar> allu2: I was thinking it wsa because of the video driver
[07:08] <netlar> allu2: Reason I thought it maybe the video driver was because the problems with the video playback too
[07:08] <allu2> netlar: could be, but it would be harder to track so its easier to try the easy solutions first
[07:09] <netlar> allu2: Well I tried also loading the proprietary driver, but that was so damn buggy, went back to the open source driver
[07:11] <allu2> netlar: graphics drivers tend to be bit trouble some depending on hardware
[07:12] <netlar> allu2: I do not think amd drivers are all the good
[07:12] <allu2> netlar: heh personally I've had no real problems with Radeon HD7750
[07:13] <netlar> allu2: Actually that is the graphic card I have
[07:14] <allu2> netlar: I also have AMD motherboard and CPU :P
[07:14] <netlar> I have Intel chip
[07:15] <allu2> netlar: I tend to build my Pc's from same manufactors parts as far as possible
[07:16] <allu2> netlar: tends to brind less problems
[07:16] <rolleiflex> hey, uh, I have a weird problem
[07:16] <netlar> allu2: For a linux box?
[07:16] <allu2> netlar: any box for that matter (dualbooting Windows  7 for games)
[07:16] <allu2> rolleiflex: hit me
[07:16] <rolleiflex> I created a .desktop file with my application and loaded it to applications, but only the icon shows on unity start menu
[07:16] <netlar> makes sense
[07:16] <rolleiflex> not the name of the package
[07:17] <allu2> pastebin the .desktop file
[07:17] <rolleiflex> all other packages have names, ha
[07:17] <rolleiflex> ok
[07:17] <rolleiflex> allu2: here you go: http://pastebin.com/j2HRGeEG
[07:17] <Conna> ?
[07:18] <jr_> Hey guys. When I try to visit CUPS in the web browser (port 631) I get "Bad Request". What's going on?
[07:19] <allu2> rolleiflex: hum so the problem is that its name is missing?
[07:19] <rolleiflex> yes
[07:19] <rolleiflex> let me get you a screenshot..
[07:19] <allu2> rolleiflex:  did you try restart Unity after adding it, just in case?
[07:19] <rolleiflex> yes, I restarted the machinem
[07:20] <rolleiflex> allu2: this is what it looks like https://i.imgur.com/4YPRvQL.png
[07:20] <allu2> rolleiflex: could the icon be somehow too large?
[07:21] <rolleiflex> it can be, but isn't it supposed to be scaled down?
[07:21] <allu2> rolleiflex: not sure :P just guessing
[07:21] <rolleiflex> allu2: yeah, you might be right :)
[07:21] <rolleiflex> let me try to get it down.. any other clues?
[07:22] <allu2> rolleiflex: hum I don't see the Encoding=UTF-8 in some of my system .desktop files
[07:22] <rolleiflex> allu2: might be worth taking it out
[07:25] <jr_> I don't get why this isn't working...
[07:25] <jr_> can someone please help?
[07:26] <allu2> jr_: I'd love to but I've never had to deal with CUPS
[07:27] <jr_> allu2: oh :( thanks though
[07:27] <kudakwashe> any idea when the ubuntu phone will be released?
[07:27] <jr_> I haven't either :p
[07:27] <kudakwashe> or when and how i can get on?
[07:27] <kudakwashe> one
[07:28] <Valarkin_> Good morning all. After much help from the kind geeks here i finally got a LVM comprised of 5 and a bit HDD's configged, formatted and I moved /home/ to it.  I then spent all of yesterday doing installs and configs of the desired software. About 1am I rebooted the machine and tried to login as a user.  I was able to logon, but the user dirs were _gone_ and fdisk reported the lvm had no filesystem
[07:28] <Valarkin_> !  Since the volume was lost, I unmounted the lvm, put a new ext4 fs on it and remounted it. I then tried to make the /home dir on the volume and was told it already existed. I took  a dir listing and sure enough - all 4 user dirs. To be safe, I rebooted and the machine has failed multiple reboot attempts - and is still down 6 hours later.
[07:29] <Valarkin_> silly bot I said nothing to you :P
[07:29] <allu2> he likes ! marks :P
[07:29] <allu2> !ubottu
[07:29] <Valarkin_> Ahhhh :D
[07:30] <Valarkin_> I guess what I am asking is: how the heck does a reboot cause that on the fs?
[07:31] <Valarkin_> and what do i do to prevent it happening again?
[07:33] <allu2> Valarkin_: hard to say since lvm isn't my area of expertize, only managed to set one up on installation
[07:33] <Valarkin_> fair dues, and I know it is early/late for most ppl too
[07:33] <allu2> 10:33am still no sleep :P
[07:33] <TJ-> Valarkin_: When a boot fails, first thing is to try Recovery mode
[07:34] <TJ-> Valarkin_: Second: ensure kernel is doing maximum logging using "debug", and capture logs. If necessary use a serial or net-console
[07:34] <Valarkin_> I am on OVH - so i only have a CP - I have to manually reboot when I tell it I want rescue but the reboots fail
[07:35] <Valarkin_> so I am going to do a clean reinstall and start over :D
[07:35] <bekks> Valarkin_: do you have a dedicated server or a VPS?
[07:35] <Valarkin_> dedi
[07:36] <TJ-> Valarkin_: Surely you have remote console access, IPMI or KVM over IP ?
[07:36] <Valarkin_> server doesnt respond to pings
[07:36] <Valarkin_> even when the cp says it's running
[07:37] <Valarkin_> and there is no surely - I get a bare install and the rest is up to me .
[07:37] <netlar> I seem to have messed up Unity Dash, it will not display applications anymore, how can I correct this
[07:38] <TJ-> Valarkin_: There surely is a surely - any dedicated host should have console access
[07:38] <mojzesz> hello
[07:38] <Valarkin_> oh, I can ssh in when the server works
[07:38] <Valarkin_> but since its refusing to respond to external connects....
[07:39] <TJ-> Valarkin_: That's nothing to do with it - console access is at BIOS level. OVH offer it as "Serial-over-LAN"
[07:39] <Valarkin_> Oh - sorry - still learning.
[07:39] <TJ-> Valarkin_: We're talking about what you'd see as the system boots itself, as if a keyboard video mouse (hence KVM) are connected... but you have remote access to that
[07:40] <TJ-> Valarkin_: OVH document it here: https://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/serial_over_lan.xml
[07:40] <Valarkin_> oh it's techincally soyoustart not ovh - different manager
[07:41] <mojzesz> i want to ask about wpa_supplicant do you know how i can disable autostart in linux?
[07:41] <Valarkin_> I only get 1 rescue boot option: rescue-pro
[07:41] <incocorp> hi every 1
[07:41] <mojzesz> hello
[07:43] <Valarkin_> I can choose network boot with 3 kernel options: hz1000, standard, and GRSec
[07:43] <kuru> got a weird problem. I can't seem to get the background wallpaper to actually show
[07:43] <Valarkin_> I do not mind doing the reinstall - I just want to be sure I'm not cocking something up to cause it.
[07:43] <kuru> instead I get garbled stuff.. this is on an external monitor (when I'm on the laptop screen it's fine)
[07:43] <Valarkin_> to fail again*
[07:44] <pagios> why do i get like 30 of these before gertting an ip address from the dhcp server? http://pastie.org/9533392 it takes like5 min to acquire n ip address
[07:44] <bekks> Valarkin_: Thats the preinstalled image of the hoster, isnt it?
[07:45] <Valarkin_> yes - no install process just slaps an image up. I can choose their kernel or the distro kernel though
[07:46] <pagios> Sep  7 10:45:26 hiperbox-01 dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.
[07:46] <pagios> Sep  7 10:45:26 hiperbox-01 dhclient: Trying recorded lease 192.168.1.73
[07:46] <kuru> anyone know of a screenshot sharing site I can show you the bg image I'm getting
[07:47] <trijntje> !paste
[07:48] <kuru> http://imgur.com/CDpsaZm
[07:48] <kuru> trijntje, thanks
[07:49] <Valarkin_> OS is reinstalling. The grand adventure continues :D
[07:49] <kuru> anyone got brilliant ideas?
[07:49] <guardianpwr08> hello, can someone tell me whats wrong with my rsync command?  I am trying to backup a running server to a clone -  rsync -avz -dryrun -e 'ssh -p 30000' --rsync-path="sudo user" --stats user@server.com:/ /
[07:51] <TJ-> kuru: Does the external monitor + same cable combination work fine on other systems?
[07:51] <kuru> ?
[07:51] <kuru> TJ, I don't have the same issue using Gnome (default)
[07:51] <TJ-> kuru: What interface is the external monitor connected to (VGA/DVI/HDMI/DP) ?
[07:51] <kuru> it's only with Unity
[07:51] <kuru> so I don't think it's a hardware issue
[07:51] <kuru> It's a VGA connector
[07:52] <TJ-> kuru: Hmmm, that suggests an OpenGL compositor issue
[07:52] <kuru> ok..
[07:52] <kuru> (Mandarin to me) :)
[07:52] <hualet_deepin> kuru: i think it's a compiz issue.
[07:53] <kuru> do I reinstall or what do I do?
[07:53] <TJ-> kuru: Your screenshot makes it look like a timing issue (incorrect modeline). Did you try loading the same desktop background into an image viewer to be sure it isn't just the image corrupted :)
[07:53] <kuru> TJ-, oh the image is definitely not corrupted
[07:53] <kuru> it doesn't matter what images I try to use or change it to.. it simply doesn't respond
[07:53] <kuru> not at login and not while on Setting
[07:53] <kuru> hualet_deepin, so how do I fix it?
[07:54] <TJ-> kuru: OK, so a composito issue - have you been 'playing' with Compiz or the Appearances settings?
[07:54] <kuru> TJ-, I have.. but not before this issue appeared
[07:54] <TJ-> kuru: The greeter is responsible for that part of the log-in, so I wonder if there's any clues in the logs in "/var/log/lightdm/*"
[07:55] <TJ-> kuru: Also, the X server log might show something: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[07:55] <kuru> I've looked at both and nothing screams at me
[07:55] <kuru> anything specific I should be looking for?
[07:56] <TJ-> kuru:  I notice an Apple-like logo top-right; have you been customising the look and feel?
[07:56] <hualet_deepin> kuru: it must be occasional, right? if it is, just leave it to the ubuntu developers.
[07:56] <kuru> hualet_deepin, occasional? No, it's always that way.
[07:57] <kuru> TJ-, like I said, I have.. but this has been before I've tried to do any customization
[07:57] <kuru> TJ-, I was actually hoping my fiddling with it would automagically fix it :)
[07:58] <TJ-> kuru:  That screenshot looks as if there's an active session and its either locked the screen or switching user, is that correct?
[07:58] <kuru> TJ-, I am logged in and active..
[07:58] <kuru> TJ-, not sure what you mean?
[07:58] <kuru> TJ-, it's not locked or switching users.. it just won't remove the pre-login screen background image
[07:58] <TJ-> kuru: The contents of the screen is the login greeter display
[07:59] <kuru> TJ-, correct.. that's sorta the whole problem :)
[07:59] <TJ-> kuru: So, it is possible the correct background isn't being drawn, or drawn corrupted, resulting in what we see
[07:59] <kuru> TJ-, I'm guessing so
[08:00] <TJ-> kuru: You said you've verified the correct background image isn't corrupted?
[08:00] <kuru> TJ-, correct.
[08:00] <TJ-> kuru: Does this happen if you log-in as the Guest user?
[08:00] <kuru> yup
[08:01] <dididodo> hi... i updated my 12.04 which is now kernel 3.2.0-68. since then, my mobile broadband (huawei usb stick)  is not working anymore. before the update it used to work perfectly for a long time and over muliple updates. it's not a modeswitch issue. still, there is no ppp0 device and no 'enable mobile broadband'
[08:01] <dididodo> any idea?
[08:02] <bekks> dididodo: how did you upgrade, exactly?
[08:03] <dididodo> bekks: plain update manager procedure ... no upgrade, it was a simple update within 12.04 world
[08:04] <alkecitu> I can't get sudoers to work such that I can run apache2ctl without a password.  I'm pretty sure my config is correct (e.g. I know that rules are matched in order).  my sudoers file is http://pastebin.com/xDd77bLK  the weird thing is, if I replace the path to apache2ctl with ALL, then it works (for all files).  why can't I make it work for just apache2ctl?
[08:04] <TJ-> kuru: Any clues in "~/.xsession-errors" ?
[08:04] <kuru> TJ-, nothing looks weird
[08:04] <bekks> dididodo: Can you pastebin sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade please?
[08:05] <dididodo> bekks: sure. one moment, please, i have to boot the box first ...
[08:06] <TJ-> dididodo: what does "nmcli nm" report?
[08:06] <dididodo> TJ-: one moment, still booting ...
[08:07] <TJ-> dididodo: I know the feeling this time of morning :)
[08:11] <dididodo> TJ-: this is a bit tricky, because i'm not writing from the box which is concerned, however, the connection i'm using right now depends on the same broadband connection which doesnt work on the other box. now ... nmcli  ... what are you exactlly looking for? it's a bit too much to write everything ...besides, the stick is not plugged in anyway  ;)
[08:12] <TJ-> dididodo: last line, what are the 2 WWAN statuses?
[08:13] <dididodo> TJ- ... WWAN-HARDWARE enabled .............. WWAN disab
[08:13] <TJ-> dididodo: There's your problem then
[08:13] <TJ-> dididodo: "nmcli nm wwan on"
[08:13] <dididodo> TJ-: great, thanks ... and what is the solution?
[08:14] <dididodo> cool
[08:14] <dididodo> TJ-: one moment
[08:14] <TJ-> diddledan_: check the status has corrected itself once you do that
[08:14] <TJ-> grrr, tab-completion!
[08:14] <TJ-> dididodo: check the status has corrected itself once you do that
[08:17] <dididodo> TJ-: i tried nmcli nm wwan on ... with and without sudo ... the command executes without error ... but nmcli nm still returns ... WWAN disabled
[08:17] <dididodo> TJ-: at least i have an idea now ...
[08:18] <TJ-> dididodo: OK, there should be some indication of why in "/var/log/syslog"
[08:18] <TJ-> dididodo: I'm not sure if that remains disabled when no device is connected
[08:18] <TJ-> dididodo: In the background though, it causes the "modemmanager" service to be run, which communicates with Network Manager
[08:19] <dididodo> TJ-: you mean i should try it again with the stick connected?
[08:20] <TJ-> dididodo: That'd make sense :)
[08:21] <TJ-> dididodo: When you do, check what is being reported in "/var/log/syslog" too
[08:22] <dididodo> TJ-: i now have tailed  /var/log/syslog  ... there are many NetworkManager messages ... you are looking forsomething specific?
[08:22] <dididodo> still without the device connected
[08:24] <dididodo> TJ-: i have to disconnect from here in order to test the box in question ... i'll be back in a few minutes ...
[08:24] <TJ-> dididodo: Well, I'd do "tail -f /var/log/syslog | tee /tmp/wwan.log" just before plugging the device in, then capture what happens. If NM still reports WWAN disabled, then do "nmcli nm wwan on" and see if that causes specific messages in syslog. If that all fails, "pastebinit /tmp/wwan.log" so we can diagnose it better
[08:25] <dididodo> TJ-: ok,  i'll do that ... thanks, so far
[08:25] <ABDU1989> how to convert joystick to mouse
[08:26] <bekks> ABDU1989: you cannot.
[08:27] <TJ-> ABDU1989: There are several ways; for the X server, have you seen http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4624/joystick-as-a-mouse-with-fedora
[08:28] <ABDU1989> I was working in the archlinux
[08:29] <bekks> TJ-: I didnt knew thats possible. TIL. :)
[08:34] <ABDU1989> TJ- for ubuntu not fedora
[08:35] <bekks> ABDU1989: The xorg.conf stays the same :)
[08:37] <pumba> hell
[08:37] <pumba> hello
[08:37] <zubairahmed> hi pumba
[08:39] <TJ-> ABDU1989: That answer is distro-agnostic, if you read it
[08:39] <pumba> zubairahmed:  have you heard of aspire e11 laptop trackpad going nuts with 14.04
[08:39] <pumba> i cant seem to find a fix
[08:39] <ABDU1989> yes thnks
[08:40] <zubairahmed> nope
[08:40] <pumba> i need help
[08:40] <pumba> i cant figure out how to fix it
[08:40] <TJ-> bekks: ha, yeah, I once had to use a joystick as input on a server in a data centre for some proprietary stuff, and was only carrying a bluetooth mouse with me :)
[08:41] <zubairahmed> Touchpad and keyboard are not working
[08:41] <zubairahmed> The solution is to add i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset to the end of the kernel line of the grub menu config at /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[08:41] <zubairahmed> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Toshiba_Satellite_L775D_S7340
[08:41] <zubairahmed> here Pumba
[08:42] <bekks> TJ-: :D
[08:42] <zubairahmed> It is for Toshiba Satellite L775D S7340 though
[08:43] <zubairahmed> follow this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2243144
[08:43] <pumba> ls
[08:43] <TJ-> zubairahmed: pumba That is a pretty common issue, or has been. I seem to be seeing it more frequently of late
[08:43] <pumba> TJ-: do you know of a fix?
[08:44] <RoBo_V> damn, I can't seems to enable hibernation (created swap file though)
[08:44] <TJ-> pumba: zubairahmed just have you the usual fix
[08:45] <TJ-> s/have/gave/
[08:46] <kudakwashe> i'm trying to use a live disk and want to save some files to disk
[08:46] <kudakwashe> i have ubuntu installed
[08:46] <pumba> i dont have a menu.lst file in /boot/grub/
[08:46] <kudakwashe> but the disk is encrypted
[08:46] <kudakwashe> i can't remember the password
[08:47] <kudakwashe> is there a way to reset the password
[08:47] <kudakwashe> ?
[08:47] <trijntje> kudakwashe: probably not, how did you encrypt the disk?
[08:47] <kudakwashe> trijntje: the way it's done during installatin
[08:47] <kudakwashe> installation
[08:48] <trijntje> kudakwashe: did you encrypt the whole install or just the home directory?
[08:48] <kudakwashe> whole disk
[08:48] <pumba> TJ-: zubairahmed ?
[08:48] <trijntje> then there is no way to gain access to your files without the password
[08:49] <kudakwashe> triste: what is that window that pops up just after installing ubuntu with  a long string?
[08:49] <kudakwashe> is that the passphrase?
[08:49] <kudakwashe> because during installation it asks for one as well
[08:49] <kudakwashe> is one for the home directory one for the disk?
[08:50] <cfhowlett_> !who
[08:50] <kudakwashe> triste: the above four lines were meant for your : -)
[08:50] <trijntje> kudakwashe: the popup is for the encryption of the home directory, did you use full disk encryption, home or both?
[08:52] <TJ-> pumba: Add those options in "/etc/default/grub", to the settings in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX then do "sudo update-grub"
[08:53] <kudakwashe> trijntje: both
[08:53] <trijntje> kudakwashe: in that case you need both passwords to get access to your files
[08:53] <kudakwashe> trijntje: i guess i have to back up everything and reinstall, this time writing down the passwords :-)
[08:54] <zubairahmed> pumba There is no menu.lst any more with grub2. You already found the generated configuration file /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but this one should not be edited. To change menu entries edit the files in /etc/grub.d/.
[08:54] <kudakwashe> trijntje: thanks
[08:54] <zubairahmed> read here http://askubuntu.com/questions/345254/there-is-no-menu-lst-under-boot-grub-and-12-04-server-cant-boot
[08:54] <kudakwashe> trijntje: because a lot of the time i need to use live dvd's
[08:54] <kudakwashe> trijntje: and save files to disks
[08:54] <TJ-> zubairahmed: Changes to the kernel command-line are not done in that location, but in "/etc/default/grub"
[08:54] <zubairahmed> TJ I see
[08:55] <pumba> so where exactly do i edit, confused
[08:55] <TJ-> pumba: Add those options in "/etc/default/grub", to the settings in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX then do "sudo update-grub"
[08:55] <TJ-> pumba: so you have something like "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset"
[08:56] <TJ-> pumba: if there are other options there already, add to them, don't remove them
[08:57] <belea> any idea how to make mysql write and read less from the disk?
[08:58] <belea> it does about 500,000 I/O requests / day ... for under 100 hits per day to the website
[08:58] <belea> :(
[08:58] <bekks> belea: You could check the SQL statements the website uses.
[08:59] <belea> bekks i'm seeing such things in fatrace: mysqld(29981): W /tmp/#sql_751d_0.MYI mysqld(29981): W /tmp/#sql_751d_0.MYI
[08:59] <belea> i have latest wordpress installed with 2 updated plugins that's all
[08:59] <belea> im paying 20-30$ / month for 300-500 million I/o requests to the EBS volume
[08:59] <sahim> #linux
[09:00] <dididodo> TJ- ... are you still there ... i did as you said but nothing happened, even no writing to the log files ... i rebooted, plugged in the device and suddenly it works even without executing nmcli ... right now i'm writing from the box that used to have the problem ...
[09:00] <dididodo> :-)
[09:01] <TJ-> belea: you could do some analysis with tools like mytop
[09:01] <TJ-> dididodo: Well, its fixed at least :)
[09:01] <belea> TJ- i used iotop ... and am seeing mysqld the most active
[09:01] <TJ-> dididodo: I wonder if the device simply didn't get recognised, or usb_modeswitch didn't work on it
[09:02] <dididodo> TJ-: wwan enabled ... everything back to normal
[09:02] <pumba> TJ-:  didnt seme to work
[09:02] <pumba> i added it, trackpad pointer stil going nuts
[09:02] <dididodo> TJ-: i think usb_modeswitch succeded ... thats what i saw from the codes in lsusb
[09:02] <anonym> works great
[09:03] <dididodo> TJ-: there was no ttyUSB* device, no ppp0 ... nothing
[09:03] <TJ-> pumba: The system has been rebooted?
[09:04] <dididodo> TJ-: anyway, GREAT thankyou to you ...
[09:04] <TJ-> dididodo: Does the device also have an ethernet interface? Some do and use cdc_ether driver to give am Ethernet interface rather than serial port
[09:04] <dididodo> TJ-: i hope the problem will not return but now i know what tto look for, anyway
[09:05] <dididodo> TJ-: definitely no eth interface
[09:05] <TJ-> dididodo: At least it works
[09:05] <dididodo> TJ-: it's a usb mobile broadband stick
[09:06] <dididodo> TJ-: that stick has served me very well so far
[09:06] <pumba> TJ-: yes
[09:06] <pumba> rebooted
[09:06] <pumba> still not working
[09:06] <pumba> i can move hte pointer but itll start moving irradically
[09:06] <pumba> irrat*
[09:07] <TJ-> pumba: Check "/var/log/kern.log" for any indications of problems
[09:07] <dididodo> TJ-: yes, thanks a lot ... you saved me a lot of time ... best wishes
[09:07] <pumba> pico /var/log/kern.log
[09:07] <pumba> alright
[09:07] <pumba> lmao
[09:08] <TJ-> dididodo: I use one that can do both serial and/or ethernet, can be a pain sometimes when you're used to the typical serial mobile broadband configuration to have nothing show up, then realise there's a new Ethernet interface (which modemmanager doesn't handle)
[09:11] <dididodo> TJ-: you mean its only a logical ethernet interface, but no ethernet hardware?
[09:12] <TJ-> dididodo: Well its an Ethernet interface (layer 2) as far as the system is concerned. It usually also runs an embedded DHCP and HTTP server too, for configuration
[09:13] <dididodo> TJ-: all i can say its a huawei 1552  mobile broadband usb stick
[09:14] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone
[09:15] <ripthejacker> How do i get write permission in a live usb stick?
[09:16] <dididodo> TJ-: i'll do another cold start and check if it stays ok
[09:19] <kudakwashe> i was here a moment ago asking about the password for encrypting the disk and the one for the home directory - i realised i have the passphrase for decrypting the disk - i have just forgotten the one for my home direcotory ( i think that's the string that comes in the pop up winodow after installation )
[09:19] <kudakwashe> i can still log in
[09:20] <kudakwashe> but can't access my drive with a boot disk
[09:20] <kudakwashe> isn't there a way to get the pop up window back with the passphrase
[09:20] <kudakwashe> ?
[09:20] <kudakwashe> live disk i mean
[09:21] <HiMaX> kudakwashe: patients
[09:21] <kudakwashe> patience
[09:21] <TJ-> kudakwashe: If you're asking about the encrypted user home directory, and you know the user account's password, you can manually unlock it
[09:22] <kudakwashe> TJ-: ok, because i have the passphrase to unlock the entier disk, kist not the one for my home direcotry, and i'm logged into my user account now
[09:22] <kudakwashe> TJ-: how can i do that
[09:22] <dididodo> TJ-: i restarted everythying from cold and broadband still responding perfectly ... that's the end of this episode ... thanks and good bye
[09:23] <TJ-> kudakwashe: So you've changed the user account's password at some point, meaning the encrypted home can no longer be automatically mounted?
[09:24] <TJ-> kudakwashe: Do you still know the original user account password - the one that was valid when the encrypted home directory was created ?
[09:24] <kudakwashe> so 1) i have the passphrase to decrypt my entire drive at boot 2) i can log in to my user account (sudo account) because i have the password 3) i can't remember the passphrashe to decrypt the home directory
[09:24] <kudakwashe> i need 3
[09:25] <kudakwashe> TJ-: ^
[09:26] <SlickRick420> wasaa
[09:26] <Ahad> hey guys how to install flash in Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit?
[09:26] <TJ-> kudakwashe: If you know the original account password you can use it to rewrap the encrypted home directory with the new password. If not, you'll need the master key which you would have been urged to record somewhere safe when the encryption was done.
[09:26] <SlickRick420> updated my weed blog few days ago www.salvia420.blogspot.com <3
[09:27] <SlickRick420> yea
[09:27] <SlickRick420> ubuntu is the best
[09:27] <SlickRick420> im on it now
[09:27] <Ahad> hey guys how to install flash in Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit??
[09:28] <kudakwashe> TJ-: yea i took a photo of the master key, but then my phone was stolen so.... how can  i do it the other way
[09:28] <kudakwashe> hey SlickRick420, eat a %^$&
[09:28] <TJ-> kudakwashe: As I said - if you know the original password for that user account
[09:28] <matty_r> Good evening, how do I view which version of WPA supplicant i'm running?
[09:28] <SlickRick420> :D
[09:28] <kudakwashe> TJ-: i do know the password, now what
[09:29] <Ahad> ikonia: you there?
[09:29] <kostkon> matty_r, wpa_supplicant -v ?
[09:29] <TJ-> kudakwashe: "man ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase"
[09:29] <kudakwashe> TJ-: danke
[09:30] <matty_r> kostkon, thanks that worked :D
[09:30] <Ahad> kostkon: Can you help me with me flash problem?
[09:30] <kostkon> matty_r, ;)
[09:30] <Ahad> my*
[09:30] <kostkon> Ahad, which browser
[09:30] <matty_r> you don't happen to know what the latest version is do you?
[09:30] <Ahad> kostkon: chromium
[09:31] <TJ-> kudakwashe: The file you'll need to point the tool to is at "/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase"
[09:31] <kostkon> Ahad, sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree   or use the software centre to install that package. Then restart chromium
[09:31] <kostkon> matty_r, no idea :/
[09:32] <kudakwashe> TJ-: thanks, i was just about to ask you that after reading the man page
[09:32] <matty_r> kostkon, no dramas thanks for your help
[09:32] <kostkon> matty_r, np
[09:32] <kudakwashe> trisquel *cough*
[09:32] <gorgath> I'm running Linux 3.17.0-rc3
[09:33] <gorgath> wohoo
[09:33] <gorgath> I compiled it myself
[09:33] <Ahad> kostkon: it says unable to locate package :/
[09:33] <kostkon> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[09:34] <Ahad> kostkon: i didnt get you
[09:34] <kostkon> Ahad, it should be there. Try enabling the multiverse repo in your software properties or whatever is called
[09:34] <kostkon> Ahad, open your updater, click on Settings
[09:36] <Ahad> kostkon: software and updates right?
[09:36] <kostkon> Ahad, yes
[09:37] <Ahad> kostkon: now which tab?
[09:37] <kudakwashe> thanks
[09:37] <Ahad> kostkon: i have ubuntu softwares, other,updates,auth & additional drivers
[09:39] <kostkon> Ahad, did you find it?
[09:39] <kostkon> Ahad, it's called Multiverse
[09:40] <Ahad> kostkon: it has a check on it .. should i uncheck it?
[09:40] <kostkon> Ahad, no, leave it
[09:40] <kostkon> Ahad, what's the output of  apt-cache policy pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[09:41] <TJ-> Ahad: Is the Ubuntu release 14.04 Trusty?
[09:41] <Ahad> kostkon: Installed: (none)
[09:41] <Ahad>   Candidate: 1.3ubuntu1
[09:41] <Ahad>   Version table:
[09:41] <Ahad>      1.3ubuntu1 0
[09:41] <Ahad>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/multiverse amd64 Package
[09:42] <Ahad> TJ-: yes
[09:42] <kostkon> Ahad, it's there..   try again:   sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[09:44] <Ahad> kostkon: it is installed now
[09:44] <kostkon> Ahad, restart chromium and load some flash based site e.g. youtube to test it
[09:44] <Ahad> kostkon: but i still cant veiw online videos.. chromium says to install adobe flash player :/
[09:44] <Ahad> kostkon: yes did that
[09:45] <kostkon> Ahad, no idea. it should be working. restart it again.
[09:46] <kostkon> Ahad, or use.. chrome
[09:48] <Ahad> kostkon: still no luck :/
[09:49] <kostkon> Ahad, log out and log back in. If that does not work, maybe start thing about finding an alternative, like firefox or chrome
[09:49] <kostkon> thinking*
[09:53] <Smashman> Hello ubuntu fellows, I am having a problem using the keyring and my private key
[09:53] <Smashman> Could someone give me a hand, please?
[09:54] <gorgath>  !keyring > Smashman
[09:54] <Smashman> Nothing happened, gorgath
[09:54] <gorgath> !keyring
[09:55] <Smashman> !seahorse
[09:57] <Smashman> !keyring
[09:57] <Smashman> Yeah, this doesn't help, gorgath
[09:57] <Smashman> Do you actually have a suggestion?
[09:57] <gorgath> !keyring
[09:58] <Smashman> That does nothing...
[09:58] <gorgath> :kappa:
[09:59] <gorgath> state your problem
[09:59] <Smashman> When I try to import the key, it goes into the Gnome2 Key Storage
[09:59] <Smashman> Not OpenSSH keys
[09:59] <Smashman> And as such it doesn't work as I'd expect
[09:59] <gorgath> import the key from the console
[10:01] <Smashman> With which command?
[10:02] <gorgath> openssh
[10:03] <Smashman> I made a thing in .ssh that lets me connect
[10:03] <Smashman> But it forces me to type the password each time
[10:03] <Smashman> and also stops me from doing something with pycharm that I want to
[10:03] <gorgath> man openssl
[10:04] <gorgath> read well, son
[10:04] <Smashman> ??
[10:04] <Smashman> You just typed 2 different things
[10:09] <ThKo> Good morning guys, I’ve got a little question: In which folder should I put my Android SDK, that root, www-data and ALL other users can execute the command „android“? More specificaly I need a shared folder for all users…Is there something in linux like shared folder in windows? Thank you :)
[10:10] <Valarkin_> Hi all. After much help from the kind folk here i finally got a LVM comprised of 5 and a bit HDD's configged, formatted and I moved /home/ to it.  I then spent all of yesterday doing installs and configs of the desired software. About 1am I rebooted the machine and tried to login as a user.  I was able to logon, but the user dirs were _gone_ and fdisk reported the lvm had no filesystem.  Since
[10:10] <Valarkin_> the volume was lost, I unmounted the lvm, put a new ext4 fs on it and remounted it. I then tried to make the /home dir on the volume and was told it already existed. I took  a dir listing and sure enough - all 4 user dirs. To be safe, I rebooted and the machine  failed multiple reboot attempts - and was still down 6 hours later.   I have since reinstalled the OS but need to know what I did to
[10:10] <Valarkin_> allow this to happen and how to avoid it this time around.
[10:15] <bekks> Valarkin_: fdisk cannot report filesystem details at all.
[10:15] <Valarkin_> perhaps I am misrememebring the command, but the net result is correct
[10:16] <Valarkin_> I was tired and i am a noob :D
[10:16] <bekks> blkid will show you filesystems on a block device, along with their types.
[10:17] <Valarkin_> as I say, the system is not on a clean install waiting for me to set up the large volume
[10:17] <Valarkin_> ah, just rememberd, I have it in pastebin - one sec
[10:17] <Valarkin_> is on a clean install*
[10:18] <Valarkin_> http://pastebin.com/kiF1FYpc
[10:18] <EiriksUbuntu> if I get GDE for 12.04 will I be able to just get rid of Unity? Or, will it be a startup option?
[10:18] <Valarkin_> sudo fdisk -l ..... Disk /dev/mapper/fileserver-share doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:19] <bekks> It doesnt need a partition table.
[10:19] <Valarkin_> so my apologies if I am using incorrect terminology, I'm still learning
[10:19] <bekks> Normally, you dont use fdisk on logical volumes.
[10:19] <Valarkin_> ok, well, why would a reboot have rendered the volume inaccessible
[10:20] <TJ-> Valarkin_: because you're not quite sure what you're doing, and you did something wrong :)
[10:20] <Valarkin_> no, i just did that because soemone here asked for it - I used parted for all the config
[10:20] <Valarkin_> Yup, that's what i am trying to get to :D
[10:20] <bekks> That depends on the exact error - simple things like a typo in /etc/fstab may have occured.
[10:20] <gorgath> Valarkin_: just get fscked
[10:20] <gorgath> :D
[10:20] <EiriksUbuntu> lool'
[10:21] <TJ-> Valarkin_: It might be wise to keep on saving (to another PC) the shell history file so you can always go back over the commands you've issued
[10:21] <Valarkin_> yeah, I'd meant to last night and distracted myself into forgetting before I closed putty
[10:21] <Valarkin_> its a remote box
[10:22] <TJ-> Valarkin_: I'd *highly* recommend experimenting locally - either on bare hardware or in a VM, before trying to do things remotely
[10:22] <EiriksUbuntu> I second that
[10:23] <Valarkin_> I dcan not get the same starting state as the remote boxc nor do i have the hardware locally to replicate what I am trying to accomplish
[10:23]  * TJ- kicks self *hard* ... when doing a debootstrap install *always* remember to create a user account *before* rebooting the system!
[10:24] <Valarkin_> everyhting was functional before the reboot
[10:24] <gorgath> TJ-: no worries just use a liveUSB
[10:24] <levo> i'm on low disk space on my linux partition (got some ntfs partitions too on the same hard drive) now i want to upgrade from 12.04 32bits to 14.04 64bits, what do you suggest me to do, is it possible to upgrade or should i keep a copy of my home folder or anything ... to keep the settings?
[10:24] <gorgath> levo: back up and install fresh imo
[10:24] <vikey> \
[10:24] <geirha> levo: how much free space are we talking?
[10:24] <Valarkin_> guys, instead of telling me to create an enviroment I can not, can you set me on the path to accomplishing what i need given the resources at hand?
[10:25] <levo> geirha: less than 100mb
[10:25] <Valarkin_> In a perfect world it would come configged tghe way I want it
[10:25] <gorgath> ubuntu has a habit of going crazy on updates
[10:25] <Valarkin_> both extremes are equally unreasonable :P
[10:25] <TJ-> gorgath: Live USB - what's that? :D
[10:25] <EiriksUbuntu> yeah updates don't like each other yet
[10:25] <geirha> levo: Yeah that is far from enough for an upgrade
[10:25] <gorgath> I have a frankenbuntu anyhow
[10:25] <levo> how to add some of my ntfs partition to the linux partition?
[10:26] <gorgath> I installed programs from source
[10:26] <EiriksUbuntu> I updated from 10.04 to 12.04 and with minimal tweaking it actually works great
[10:26] <gorgath> including the kernel
[10:26] <EiriksUbuntu> I had some boot issues and freezing at first, but thats my own fault
[10:26] <levo> the question is, is there anywhere else other than home folder which config files are kept?
[10:27] <levo> and i think i need a fresh install because i'm going to install the 64bit version
[10:27] <EiriksUbuntu> I am really proud of the community because everything on my laptop just works now :-)
[10:28] <EiriksUbuntu> yeah, to go from 32 to 64 you need fresh
[10:28] <gorgath> EiriksUbuntu: you sound like a microsoft shill
[10:28] <EiriksUbuntu> shill?
[10:28] <gorgath> Just Works (TM)
[10:29] <EiriksUbuntu> gorgath this is Eiriksvin
[10:29] <EiriksUbuntu> lol
[10:29] <levo> oh
[10:29] <EiriksUbuntu> never been a ms fan
[10:29] <levo> and i hate "Unity", is it some ways I don't get that
[10:30] <gorgath> Ubuntu is just the microsoft of the linux world
[10:30]  * gorgath waits for flames
[10:30] <EiriksUbuntu> lol I use nothing but GDE (Gnome)
[10:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is edubuntu still a thing?
[10:30] <levo> lxde is the best for me and my poor laptop
[10:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> gorgath, what? That is not based on any sort of reality. Ubuntu has open development, and releases their stuff as open source, and asks for donations to help keep it going
[10:31] <EiriksUbuntu> Ubuntu is still linux, and linux I can tolerate because if I see a problem I can fix it myself
[10:31] <gorgath> I mean the design philosophy is the same, keep the user in GUI land.
[10:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> gorgath, no its not; Unity is a search UI; its almost a cross between vim and Mac
[10:32] <geirha> levo: in that case, installing lubuntu is probably the easiest option
[10:32] <levo> so i should download 14.04 and then remove unity and install lxde, right?
[10:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> gorgath, do you use the HUD?
[10:32] <levo> lubuntu doesn't get updated as much as ubuntu AFAIK
[10:32] <gorgath> unfortunately
[10:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> gorgath, what does the hud do?
[10:32] <geirha> lubuntu is ubuntu, just with lxde installed by default instead of gnome
[10:33] <gorgath> search buttonn thingo
[10:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> gorgath, searches for what?
[10:33] <EiriksUbuntu> I prefer a GUI that is easily taught to my family so they don't feel intimidated by the big bad penguin
[10:33] <eeee> Akiva-Thinkpad: commands relevant to the application you're using
[10:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> eeee, hey I know; I want to know if gorgath knows
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> eeee, he probably thinks i'm talking about the dash
[10:34] <eeee> lol you're testing him?
[10:34] <levo> so i'm gonna download lubuntu 14.0.1 64bit, is it ok?
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> eeee, of course! who in their right mind would hate the hud?
[10:34] <eeee> i just woke up
[10:34] <Valarkin_> Silly religiosty over an OS. Gorgath would you say "I love hammers. It is the only tool I ever use. Saws are divices and screwdrivers will screw you hard"?
[10:34] <eeee> i thought he was helping you out :)
[10:34] <usr13> geirha: It is a bit of a stretch to say Ubuntu is like MS because we are kept in GUI land.  I just don't think it is a fair analogy.
[10:34] <Valarkin_> *divisive
[10:34]  * TJ- passes eeee  a mug of coffee
[10:34] <eeee> thanks TJ- :)
[10:34] <Valarkin_> morning eeee
[10:35] <eeee> morning Valarkin_ :)
[10:35] <Valarkin_> you got as little slaeep as I it seems ;)
[10:35] <gorgath> Ubuntu misses the point of the UNIX philosophy
[10:35] <TJ-> Folks... lets keep this to support issues, other chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> gorgath, Which is?
[10:35] <gorgath> you search it
[10:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> TJ-, right
[10:35] <gorgath> mr wizard
[10:36] <Valarkin_> eeee - I have a fresh install on the server. Could I beg some handholding to make sure I get this right?
[10:36] <usr13>  gorgath Akiva-Thinkpad  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <eeee> sure what's the problem
[10:36] <Valarkin_> once you are settled in and all
[10:36] <Valarkin_> may I pm you?
[10:36] <eeee> sure
[10:36] <levo> one other thing: the link says it is lubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso  but my cpu is intel, it's not amd. am i missing something?
[10:36] <Valarkin_> ty
[10:37] <TJ-> Valarkin_: It would help us if you define precisely what you want to achieve in the end, rather than asking us at each step when you get stuck, because we may just be able to help you avoid doing things that are neither necessary nor recommended
[10:37] <geirha> usr13: ah, you meant gorgath
[10:37] <trendynick_> i was trying to save a ogv from wikipedia in chrome and now I have a white box (right click menu) that cannot disappear (it is on top of almost everything, right click on desktop/wallpaper is over it)... is there anyway to fix it by force
[10:38] <usr13> geirha: Yes I did, sorry.
[10:38] <EiriksUbuntu> is the gnome package in the software center the same as the apt-get for it?
[10:38] <geirha> levo: No, it works for both intel and amd cpus. AMD just happened to be first with the 64 bit, so they got the name
[10:38] <TJ-> levo: "amd64" was so-named because AMD invented the 64-bit x86 compatible instruction set; Intel later licensed its use from AMD when the Intel IA64 (Itanium) architecture didn't take off
[10:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !edubuntu
[10:39] <levo> thanks
[10:39] <EiriksUbuntu> I'm so happy that they brought in the drivers for ATI
[10:39] <TJ-> levo: It is always known as x86_64 just to confuse you more :)
[10:39] <geirha> levo: So what I'd do in your case is copy your homedir somewhere, and maybe also /etc.  When you've installed the new system, copy back the files you need (not all)
[10:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is there an ubuntu distribution for small children?
[10:40] <anon9434> ls
[10:40] <levo> geirha: how about adding some ntfs partition to the linux one?
[10:41] <eeee> Akiva-Thinkpad: yeah, it's called arch linux
[10:42] <EiriksUbuntu> well imma get offin here and try booting 14.04 live usb
[10:42] <Valarkin_> tj - could you scan this fstab and tell me if there is anything obviously wrong with it please? http://pastebin.com/Ae0aSqj3
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> eeee, no you are confused. Arch is for Ricers.
[10:42] <Valarkin_> sorry if I am being a pest.
[10:43] <levo> thanks guys
[10:43] <eeee> Akiva-Thinkpad:  :)
[10:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> eeee, CFLAGS ZOMG!
[10:44] <TJ-> Valarkin_: If that's an Ubuntu install you don't need to specify /proc /sys /dev etc.
[10:44] <Valarkin_> I didn't do that, it's how it came as a base 14.04 install.
[10:45] <TJ-> Valarkin_: upstart (the init daemon) sets those up (and others) from its "/lib/init/fstab"
[10:45] <Valarkin_> ah ok.
[10:49] <gorgath> Linux cyde 3.17.0-rc3-next-20140905 #1 SMP Sun Sep 7 20:37:46 EST 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:49] <gorgath> I'm running linux-next
[10:49] <gorgath> straight from a git clone
[10:49] <gorgath> can't get more bleeding edge than me, baby
[10:58] <eeee> Valarkin_: are you running an encrypted /home ?
[10:58] <eeee> Valarkin_: ls -la | grep .ecryptfs
[10:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey BluesKaj
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hi Akiva-Thinkpad
[11:01] <eeee> Valarkin_: sorry, ls -la ~ | grep .ecryptfs
[11:02] <john_rambo> Someone please have a look at this and confirm if Firefox is in enforce mode coz I can browse every part of the filesystem with Firefox's File>open .....http://paste2.org/eJ7h42Gp
[11:06] <Terminator> !ot
[11:08] <john_rambo> I am using Ubuntu .. I am asking about apparmor
[11:08] <Terminator> !xen
[11:10] <Abu-Nana> Does anyone have any idea how to reduce the system font size by 1px
[11:10] <Abu-Nana> ?
[11:10] <Abu-Nana> including browser
[11:10] <Terminator> !xlib
[11:11] <Terminator> !lnmp
[11:12] <Terminator> !crux
[11:13] <Terminator> !vm
[11:14] <Terminator> !maria
[11:18] <EiriksUbuntu> Well, I got to try out 14.04 and I must say, fantastic stuff! My question is: should I just copy my home folder, or make a backup to restore?
[11:19] <EiriksUbuntu> I really want to keep all the packages I have already downloaded
[11:20] <EiriksUbuntu> wish i could just update to it, but my internet is so slow it would take days
[11:20] <hualet_deepin> EiriksUbuntu: home folder has nothing to do with your installed packages
[11:21] <EiriksUbuntu> yeah i know, just fishing for conversation, lol
[11:21] <hualet_deepin> EiriksUbuntu: well...you succeed ;)
[11:22] <cyclonis> good morning all
[11:23] <EiriksUbuntu> :-) Morning
[11:24] <EiriksUbuntu> hualet_deepin: how would I keep all the packages while installing from live usb
[11:25] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I recently updated from 12.04.4 to 14.04.1. I was quite happy to use sshfs to access a remote directory as if it was on my computer. After the update I get a permission denied error and the remote location is not mounted. Does anybody have a clue on this? Thank you very much ^^
[11:26] <hualet_deepin> EiriksUbuntu: i'm sorry i don't know
[11:26] <eeee> EiriksUbuntu: what do you mean?
[11:27] <EiriksUbuntu> how would I keep all the packages i have dowloaded, like xchat, and restricted extras while installing from live usb
[11:27] <gorgath> >xchat
[11:28] <gorgath> >not using weechat
[11:28] <gorgath> pleb
[11:28] <Lorra> I login to the remote server from the same box with ssh just fine (passwordless, with the private key)
[11:28] <hualet_deepin> EiriksUbuntu: i just put a list of packages in a shell script, everytime after i reinstalled the os, i run it ;)
[11:28] <EiriksUbuntu> ? what does that mean?
[11:28] <EiriksUbuntu> ^^gorgath
[11:29] <gorgath> it means you should use weechat
[11:29] <Valarkin_> It is often a good thing to periodically check one's sense of self-importance  gorgath
[11:30] <cyclonis> hey EiriksUbuntu how well does ubuntu support kickstart
[11:30] <EiriksUbuntu> gorgath please inform me about the differences
[11:30] <gorgath> weechat is a console IRC client
[11:30] <EiriksUbuntu> I have been having a great time with kickstart
[11:30] <gorgath> meaning you can run it over ssh if you like
[11:31] <cyclonis> does  ubuntu read the preseed file first or kickstart
[11:31] <EiriksUbuntu> maybe i had to much medicine, but i don't know what ssh is or used for
[11:31] <gorgath> secure shell
[11:32] <gorgath> it lets you log into remote computers
[11:34] <streulma> hello, who has experiences with Ubuntu on Retina display? What's the best resonable setting for crisp text on Retina Macbook Pro?
[11:35] <EiriksUbuntu> cyclosis i haven't had to deal with anything like that just connected
[11:40] <EiriksUbuntu> Well, I'm updating to 14.04 I'll be back after the install
[11:40] <gorgath> noo
[11:41] <gorgath> don't wana let you goooo
[11:42] <EiriksUbuntu> lol, it won't take long, everything on my laptop runs native now on 14.04 that is a long way from 10.04
[11:42] <gorgath> :(
[11:43] <gorgath> dun leev me
[11:43] <EiriksUbuntu> kk be back in a few
[11:48] <gorgath> I'm using kernel 3.16.2
[11:49] <gorgath> latest stable
[11:52] <gorgath> hi croppa
[11:53] <guest13421> I have gone through various links and various recommendations on net but i am unable to remove that purple screen on windows boot
[11:53] <guest13421> sometimes it goes away and sometimes it shows.
[11:53] <guest13421> any soln?
[11:53] <gorgath> try that again
[11:54] <guest13421> gorgath: try what?
[11:54] <gorgath> explaining
[11:55] <gorgath> frankenstein: !!!
[11:55] <gorgath> runnnn
[11:55] <guest13421> gorgath: ok. I have dual boot. Ubuntu and Windows 7. Ubuntu 14.04 works fine. When I boot into windows it shows me purple screen but continues to load in back screen!
[11:55] <gorgath> try #windows
[11:56] <guest13421> gorgath: I tried setting quite splash besides set root= and it works on some load and on some it doesnt.
[11:56] <guest13421> gorgath: it happens after ubuntu installation else it works fine.
[11:56] <gorgath> it continues to load windows in the background?
[11:56] <guest13421> gorgath: yep it does. but shows purple screen for 2-3 minutes in front.
[11:56] <frankenstein> rawr
[11:56] <guest13421> a scratched purple screen on windows boot
[11:57] <gorgath> sounds like corrupt windows
[11:57] <guest13421> gorgath: happens in 35 odd systems on which ubuntu has been installed.
[11:57] <gorgath> if it wasn't already
[11:58] <guest13421> gorgath: windows works absolutely fine although after 5 mins of boot. no issues with win 7operations.
[11:58] <TJ-> guest13421: Did we discuss this a few days ago, too?
[11:59] <guest13421> TJ-: first time asking on ubunut channel :) till now googled and tried and nothing works.
[12:02] <drvanon> When I connect to my site with chrome it times out, but when I use curl, it responds really fast. Whos kind of problem would this be: aws, ubuntu or wordpress?
[12:03] <drvanon> My mistake, I jused the wrong IP
[12:06] <Guest93705> I have a digipass for my bank account.  It offers connected mode through a USB cable.  Unfortunately, the Digipass 870 from Vasco doesn't work in connected mode iin Ubuntu 14.04.  Anyone wanna help me?
[12:06] <TJ-> guest13421: OK, then you're not alone. I spent some time debugging it for someone else. It seems to be a very recent issue - I'm going to guess it is caused by some recent Windows 7 update
[12:07] <bekks> Guest93705: Whats a "Digipass 870"?
[12:08] <Guest93705> You put your bank card in the slot and you can connect to your bank account with this "calculator" looking thing
[12:08] <guest13421> TJ-: ah ok. :)
[12:08] <bekks> Guest93705: "PIN/TAN generator"?
[12:09] <Guest93705> bekks: PIN
[12:09] <TJ-> guest13421: I'd love to know what is causing it though; it must be a change to a boot-loader. Are those PCs all using EFI boot?
[12:11] <guest13421> TJ-: I did change some seetings in grub loader to make windows use quite splash and all laptops use legacy support boot in their systems.
[12:12] <trijntje> Guest93705: I dont think those things are made to work with ubuntu, and its safer to type the codes in anyway
[12:13] <TJ-> guest13421: Windows doesn't accept command-line parameters, so I'm not sure how you'd set those options for it
[12:14] <Guest93705> trijntje: It says that it is compatible with Linux, so it SHOULD work in Ubuntu.  Why it doesn't, I don't know.  As it is, it talks about installing something like a driver or something like that, but the download or installation never happens
[12:14] <guest13421> TJ-: I went to ubuntu. edited grub file as per this link: http://zaidmunir.blogspot.in/2014/04/purple-screen-on-windows-start-when.html
[12:15] <trijntje> Guest93705: I think you'd have to ask the bank how to install the drivers
[12:17] <Guest93705> trijntje: Saw someone who has the same problem.  That person (I did a google on the problem) said that the bank brushed them off, saying that they don't support Linux.  Vasco, the makers of the digipass, would have told that same person that they don't do support after purchase.
[12:18] <trijntje> Guest93705: unless somebody here has the same device, there is no way for us to help
[12:18] <Guest93705> trijntje: Read this data sheet, please http://retail.vasco.com/Images/DP_870_DS201311_FR.pdf
[12:18] <Guest93705> trijntje: End of page 2
[12:19] <trijntje> Guest93705: you can use the device without a usb connection right?
[12:20] <Guest93705> trijntje: Yes.  But they brag about how it works with Linux and some functions that require a physical connection, I think
[12:20] <Guest93705> trijntje: And that bothers me
[12:21] <trijntje> Guest93705: I don't know who 'they' are, but I'd ask them if they say it works on linux. I cant help you any more, sorry
[12:21] <Guest93705> trijntje: Thx anyway.
[12:21] <Guest93705> trijntje: Bye
[12:22] <BluesKaj> guest13421, I have to ask , after making the changes to grub did you run sudo update-grub ...lots of users forget to do so.
[12:23] <guest13421> BluesKaj: I did run that.
[12:23] <guest13421> BluesKaj: On grub screen does show the update I did.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> guest13421, ok
[12:29] <TJ-> trijntje: Guest93705 would have needed to install pcscd and libccid; then the device should work in connected mode
[12:31] <TJ-> guest13421: I believe your issue is closely related to this documented issue with Windows not selecting the correct splash screen to display due to a BCD problem: http://www.mydigitallife.info/fix-and-restore-windows-7-boot-screen-that-changes-to-vista-style/
[12:31] <BluesKaj> guest13421, I have a long login with windows due to the bios/uefi not seeing my cdrom drive for some reason...this happens quite often and the bios/efi is set to legacy mode as well ...no purple screen though
[12:31] <TJ-> guest13421: You are seeing the remains of the GRUB GFX background after the boot menu has been removed... and Windows fails to load its own splash screen
[12:32] <TJ-> guest13421: I'm guessing the 'Purple' colour you describe is the same one that GRUB/Ubuntu use for the splash screen background?
[12:35] <guest13421> TJ-: yes.
[12:35] <guest13421> BluesKaj: Its a brand new laptop and it happens on all 35 systems I have.
[12:36] <TJ-> guest13421: Then whilst Windows boots, you're seeing the GRUB artifact since Windows failed to draw its own splash bitmap
[12:36] <guest13421> TJ-: what might cause that? as if I remove ubuntu it works fine.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> guest13421: do both OSes boot ok?
[12:37] <TJ-> guest13421: You mean remove Ubuntu, removing GRUB, and allowing Windows to boot directly with its own boot-loader?
[12:37] <guest13421> ActionParsnip: yep they do.
[12:37] <guest13421> TJ-: yep.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> guest13421: then who cares.....
[12:38] <TJ-> guest13421: So, to have Windows boot directly, you're also having Windows Repair/reinstall/reconfigure its own boot-loader?
[12:38] <guest13421> ActionParsnip: but taht splash screen shouldnt occur as everything is ok. This is first time I came across such an issue in ubuntu.tilll now it used to work fine on old laptops.
[12:39] <guest13421> TJ-: yep.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> guest13421: are you wanting to remove Ubuntu and have windows as the sole OS, or is it that there is some cosmetic issue with the bootloader but everything is fine?
[12:40] <guest13421> ActionParsnip: nope. pissed with windows but need it for electronics software. want to work only on ubuntu.
[12:40] <guest13421> ActionParsnip: I have installed it in many colleagues laptop , it is recently that I face this issue.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> guest13421: then you will need to dual boot as Ubuntu doesn't satisfy all your requirements
[12:40] <kasisnu> Hi. What is the ascii code for the menu key?
[12:41] <kasisnu> I've been stuck at this for a while.
[12:41] <TJ-> guest13421: That confirms that Windows repairs itself, or isn't affected by something GRUB does. On the evidence so far I'd suspect that Windows is not switching the video mode before loading its splash image, and as GRUB puts the display into a graphics mode, Windows doesn't reset that to one that matches what it needs. As a test, try enabling "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" in "/etc/default/grub" and see if the issue continues to happen. That'll tend to prove/disprove t
[12:41] <TJ-> he graphic mode-setting theory
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> kasisnu: Mod_L is the key, you can use xev to see the codes etc
[12:41] <TJ-> kasisnu: There isn't one
[12:42] <kasisnu> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[12:42] <TJ-> kasisnu: ASCII is a character set, not a key-code mapping
[12:43] <kasisnu> TJ- : Thanks! A key code might be good enough for what I'm trying to do.
[12:43] <TJ-> kasisnu: I think you just got your terminology a bit wrong :)
[12:44] <kasisnu> TJ-: I think I did! :D
[12:45] <guest13421> TJ-: I will try that and return back with results.
[12:48] <TJ-> Hmmm - anyone ever seen a GRUB install *lose* its "normal.mod" !?
[12:49] <guest13421> TJ-: It says grub terminal not found
[12:50] <TJ-> guest13421: what is "it" ? during a boot or whilst doing "update-grub" ?
[12:51] <guest13421> TJ-: doing update-grub
[12:51] <TJ-> guest13421: This is on a BIOS mode boot, not EFI, yes?
[12:52] <guest13421> TJ-: yep.legacysupport mode in BIOS.
[12:52] <TJ-> guest13421: And what did you set the option to
[12:52] <guest13421> GRUB_TERMINAL = "console"
[12:58] <knob> Guys, any experience with a script/program to make a server's backup, and upload to DropBox?  I found this one, link, yet wondering if you have used x y or z in the past?  http://www.andreafabrizi.it/?dropbox_uploader
[12:58] <TJ-> guest13421: no spaces around the "=" symbol
[12:59] <guest13421> TJ-: it udpdated.now checking.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> knob: just copy files to the Dropbox folder in $HOME and it wil upload...
[13:00] <adrian_> hola frikis
[13:00] <adrian_> retrasados
[13:00] <knob> ActionParsnip... hadn't thought of that.
[13:01] <guest13421> TJ-: This is amazing. Pink screen gone. It now boots up pefetctly. what did that command do?
[13:01] <adrian_> fucking freaks
[13:02] <newbie|2> adrian_: please ... the language, please?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> adrian_, stop the profanity - violation of community guidelines, unnecessary and rude.
[13:02] <adrian_> sorry
[13:02] <newbie|2> Anyone out there can help me find "eid-mw" for a debian Ubuntu distro?
[13:03] <adrian_> i'm retarded
[13:03] <TJ-> guest13421: Disabled GRUB's graphical mode, thus leaving the system in the BIOS text mode. So, that confirms that it is Windows boot-loader not setting the video mode correctly - probably due to some recent Windows boot-loader update
[13:03] <newbie|2> adrian_: I never said that ...
[13:04] <guest13421> TJ-: this was awesome debugging :) that wont affect ubuntu right?
[13:04] <TJ-> guest13421: Nope, it is just a GRUB setting to make the GRUB menu 'pretty' to match the Ubuntu plymouth graphical splash screen
[13:05] <guest13421> TJ-: bingo! super awesome.Thanks for the help :)
[13:08] <Xethron> Looking for a backup utility to create versioned daily backups...
[13:08] <Xethron> To an external hdd, or over a network to another PC
[13:08] <Xethron> Of my entire home folder
[13:09] <Xethron> Any recommendations
[13:11] <pinygu>  /part
[13:17] <Netham45> !bug
[13:19] <Netham45> If you download a package off of archive.ubuntu.com, there is a /ubuntu/ prefix. If you download it off of ports.ubuntu.com, that prefix is absent.
[13:20] <Netham45> If there could just be a symlink created for /ubuntu/ to / on that domain, it'd fix dist upgrading on non-supported architectures (armv7 in my case)
[13:20] <Netham45> Where would I post a request like that?
[13:21] <Netham45> Right now my solution is to run a mini webserver that responds with all archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/... queries and redirect them to ports.ubuntu.com/..., and changing the IP for archive.ubuntu.com using the hosts file.
[13:21] <Netham45> This /works/, but it's obviously undesirable.
[13:23] <Sinistrad> I dont have an answer, but was curious if it was a RasPi
[13:23] <Netham45> Sinistrad, no, it's a CuBox.
[13:24] <Netham45> Installed an image and got it all configured and set up, then realized that it was running 12.10.
[13:24] <simonjr> someday please help me with my front panel audio plugin
[13:24] <simonjr> it doesn't seem to work even after I have configure it with the suggestions given from ubuntu help forums
[13:25] <Netham45> and the upgrade command assumes I'm on a supported distro (in that, it's on archive.ubuntu.org)
[13:25] <Netham45> It /would/ be as simple as overriding the IP of archive.ubuntu.org to ports.ubuntu.org in the hosts if they shared an IP
[13:25] <Netham45> Er, if they shared ac ommon tree
[13:26] <simonjr> I added the line "options snd-hda-intel model=audio" in the alsa-base.conf file
[13:26] <simonjr> but there is still no sound when I plug-in my headphones
[13:26] <simonjr> it dosen't even detact my headphones
[13:28] <simonjr> is there any configuration I have to do other than that?
[13:28] <TJ-> Netham45: All that is un-necessary; simply configure the update location for do-release-upgrade in update-manager-core's "/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.d/" for the ports repo
[13:29] <simonjr> my soundcard is build-in and the mobo is asrock brand
[13:29] <simonjr> it is using the realtek soundcard with via chipset
[13:29] <Netham45> TJ-, y'know, I probably should've googled my problem before I just came up with my own hackish solution.
[13:29] <TJ-> Netham45: Always the way :)
[13:29] <simonjr> it is via VT1708S
[13:30] <Netham45> I still think it's odd that the ports.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com servers use a different layout, though.
[13:30] <simonjr> I hope somebody has the same problem as this with ubuntu 14.04
[13:31] <blackangelpr> simonjr, http://askubuntu.com/questions/457619/sound-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04
[13:31] <TJ-> Netham45: The reason is historical - in the beginning archive.ubuntu.com also had /cdimage/ - nowadays that is a separate sub-domain cdimages.ubuntu.com
[13:32] <simonjr> ok thanx blackangelpr
[13:32] <blackangelpr> welcome
[13:33] <knob> Guys, google is failing me.    Is there a flag to make a    tar   dry run?
[13:33] <knob> I see answers for piping the output to   |  wc
[13:33] <knob> Yet... how can I pre-estimate the  total size of the .tar?
[13:37] <Netham45> TJ-, makes sense.
[13:37] <TJ-> knob: "tar -czf /dev/null --totals /path/to/files" ?
[13:38] <knob> TJ-, ... thanks....
[13:38] <knob> thinking about it...
[13:39] <TJ-> Netham45: funny thing is there *is* a symlink to ubuntu/ within /ubuntu/ such that this becomes valid: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[13:39] <Netham45> Hah.
[13:40] <stapler117> ubuntuception
[13:40] <antsanto> he he
[13:40] <Netham45> TJ-, know where any documentation on the layout of the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.d folder is?
[13:40] <Netham45> My Google-fu is failing me.
[13:43] <malmalmal> Hello, I am trying to troubleshoot a computer with xubuntu whhich stopped booting after giving a (not enough disk space for update) message
[13:43] <malmalmal> at the moment I booted on recovery
[13:43] <malmalmal> because booting normally results in black screen
[13:43] <malmalmal> and I am trying to remove old kernels for starters
[13:43] <allu2> malmalmal: try removing some useless files to make up some space
[13:44] <malmalmal> allu2, at the moment I booted on command prompt
[13:44] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, also a bit of spring cleaning: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[13:44] <malmalmal> but I have 2 problems
[13:44] <TJ-> Netham45: In the package "ubuntu-release-upgrader-core" hopefully
[13:44] <malmalmal> text size is huge
[13:45] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, text? what text?
[13:45] <malmalmal> I booted in text mode
[13:46] <malmalmal> (hell, I am on freenode webchat, how do I go on hiding people joining and leaving the channel, sorry for nested requests for help)
[13:47] <cos[x]> rtfm
[13:47] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, if webchat has that option, I never found it.
[13:47] <malmalmal> jaja
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | cos[x],
[13:47] <blackangelpr> XD
[13:47] <TJ-> Netham45: You should see that the ports are listed correctly in "/usr/share/ubuntu-release-upgrader/mirrors.cfg"
[13:47] <malmalmal> ok I am going to install an irc client for my system and come back for help, sorry guys
[13:48] <cos[x]> i recommend xchat
[13:48] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, hexchat or xchat are quite nice
[13:48] <malmalmal> thanks for the reccomendations, but I am on OSX at the moment
[13:48] <malmalmal> long story jeje
[13:49] <PROJAK_SX> oh the horror
[13:49] <malmalmal> Be right back
[13:49] <TJ-> malmalmal: cfhowlett It's "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS:" on the Options menu under "Connection Details"
[13:49] <cfhowlett> TJ-, good detective work, Lou!
[13:49] <mrwappie> use irssi in terminal
[13:49] <malmalmal> oh ok great thank you TJ-
[13:49] <malmalmal> much better!
[13:50] <malmalmal> Ok so back to the problem
[13:50] <malmalmal> Two problems I think.
[13:50] <mrwappie> it is light to run and it has a simple gui
[13:50] <malmalmal> thanks mrwappie, It is good now, thanks to TJ-
[13:50] <malmalmal> So I am trying to resucitate a pc that has a xp / xubuntu dualboot
[13:50] <mrwappie> np ;)
[13:51] <malmalmal> and that after , possibly, a failed update due to not enough diskspace is not booting xubuntu
[13:52] <red45923> question: got a ubuntu laptop working fine except I got a dead key - is there an easy way to remap another less used key to the missing one
[13:52] <malmalmal> so I entered recovery mode
[13:52] <eeee> red45923: xmodmap
[13:52] <malmalmal> and then went onto command prompt, and I am trying to clean old kernels
[13:52] <red45923> eeee, thx will check that out
[13:53] <malmalmal> first problem encountered is that the text size on command prompt is huge, and when listing kernels I can't even see all of them, so i'd like to either reduce the font size or break the list into batches if you know what I mean
[13:53] <malmalmal> am I explaining it clearly ?
[13:53] <eeee> malmalmal: you can pipe to less
[13:53] <SchrodingersScat> do you have access to 'more' from where you are attempting?
[13:53] <malmalmal> no "more"
[13:53] <malmalmal> or you speak of a command ?
[13:54] <malmalmal> eeee how do i pipe it?
[13:54] <eeee> malmalmal: ls /boot | less
[13:54] <SchrodingersScat> malmalmal: 'more' and 'less' are commands
[13:54] <malmalmal> I see thank you let me try
[13:54] <eeee> malmalmal: don't be fooled by the names though, less is more
[13:54] <malmalmal> jajaja
[13:54] <malmalmal> that is a great line eeee
[13:54] <eeee> it's true, less is way more advanced
[13:55] <eeee> :)
[13:55] <malmalmal> I confirm I have access to less
[13:55] <malmalmal> and it outputs a list I can advance, although when reaching END i am not sure how to get out
[13:55] <Netham45> hit 'q'
[13:55] <malmalmal> ctrl+z worked
[13:55] <malmalmal> is this listing the kernels ?
[13:55] <Netham45> ctrl+z backgrounds it
[13:55] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, how many kernels?
[13:56] <leni1> Hi. What version of Ubuntu should I install? The specs of my laptop are at this link :http://paste.ubuntu.com/8280192/
[13:56] <Guest94461> leni1: latest :v
[13:56] <malmalmal> cfhowlett I get a list of kernels that I believe not all refer to system kernels, as I have some starting with abi, some with config, initrd, memtest, system.map...
[13:57] <cfhowlett> leni1, 14.04.1 32 bit and MAYBE lubuntu / xubuntu - guessing you don't have a top flight gpu there.
[13:57] <malmalmal> and vmlinuz
[13:57] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, count the abi*
[13:57] <malmalmal> 6
[13:57] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, not enough to overload your /boot , but feel free to clean some.  /boot is normally 100 GB
[13:58] <cfhowlett> *100 MB*
[13:58] <malmalmal> this is a dualboot with low HD
[13:58] <malmalmal> and update manager clearly stated not enough memory to update :/
[13:58] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, "low" ?  anyway your /boot = 100 mb give or take
[13:58] <malmalmal> sorry cfhowlett, I mean not a lot of space
[13:58] <leni1> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:58] <malmalmal> thanks for helping
[13:58] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, so update manager was referring to HDD space.  perhaps start deleting naughty pics?
[13:59] <malmalmal> jajaja
[13:59] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, actually here's the command to see:   df -H
[13:59] <malmalmal> so you are telling me that kernels are not the actual problem
[13:59] <malmalmal> ok checking
[13:59] <malmalmal> 18gb 99% use
[13:59] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, boom there it is.
[13:59] <malmalmal> ^^
[14:00] <malmalmal> you rock thanks
[14:00] <malmalmal> Ok so I have to manually navigate and then rm ?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, 18 GB  ?  y so small?
[14:00] <malmalmal> transitioning from windows xp to xubuntu
[14:00] <leni1> cfhowlett: any versions of xubuntu/lubuntu that will go with the specs??
[14:00] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, I'd reboot XP and kill them there.
[14:00] <malmalmal> for a non-believer
[14:00] <malmalmal> right! but problem: xp is not showing the partition anymore
[14:01] <malmalmal> which leads me to suspect a broken update
[14:01] <cfhowlett> leni1, lubuntu is optimized for older and lower spec machines.  xubuntu also runs nicely on same.  32 bit rather than 64 bit is a guess as you have only 3 GB ram.
[14:01] <malmalmal> so I believe I should clean files then move onto fixing broken update?
[14:01] <leni1> okay then...so really not ubuntu for this laptop, right?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, make space or nothing you try will work.
[14:01] <cfhowlett> leni1, lubuntu and xubuntu ARE ubuntu flavors
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !flavors | leni1
[14:02] <xangua> leni1: xubuntu,lubuntu,ubuntu, they are all *buntu
[14:02] <malmalmal> so I manyally navigate, then rm files right ?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, from windows.  From WINDOWS
[14:02] <malmalmal> cfhowlett, I can't access xubuntu partition from windows
[14:02] <malmalmal> anymore
[14:02] <malmalmal> at least not from normal file manager
[14:02] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, right right.  sorry.  OK, navigate and nuke.
[14:02] <SchrodingersScat> you could before?
[14:03] <malmalmal> schrodingerscat yes
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> malmalmal  are you now in windows or in xubuntu
[14:03] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, sorry, I tweaked XP 99% - too much cheap Beijing Beer
[14:03] <malmalmal> well actually the user is NOT sure if she could access xubuntu from winxp, at the moment I am on xubuntu recovery command prompt
[14:04] <malmalmal> I am going to navigate and try to nuke files
[14:04] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, in other words, I was trying to give bad advice.  sorry.  use ubuntu to manage ubuntu files.
[14:04] <SchrodingersScat> or copy them to an external if available
[14:04] <malmalmal> any easy way to find huge files on command prompt? any options to rm when deleting files ?
[14:04] <SchrodingersScat> *move
[14:04] <malmalmal> right, delete or copy (what commands?)
[14:04] <malmalmal> cp ?
[14:04] <malmalmal> how to list mounted usbs ?
[14:04] <malmalmal> or xp drive ?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, cp will only cp.  you need those files gone to recover space.
[14:05] <malmalmal> cp then delete
[14:05] <malmalmal> cp then rm
[14:05] <eeee> or mv ?
[14:05] <malmalmal> right jaja
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> malmalmal  change 500M to whatever size you want: find / -size +500M -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[14:05] <malmalmal> thanks MonkeyDust
[14:05] <SchrodingersScat> I like ncdu for this, but you would need the space to install it first..
[14:06] <leni1> thank you all. Have been using Debian Linux, this is my first foray into the ubuntu world.
[14:06] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, also your ubuntu trash could probably use an empty: nuke .trash
[14:06] <TJ-> malmalmal: To analyse where the most disk-space is in use, do "sudo du --one-file-system --max-depth=2 / | sort -n" to find 2 levels of usage sorted so largest use is listed last
[14:06] <cfhowlett> leni1, understood. xubuntu has been quite nice on my dell inspiron with 4 gb
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> malmalmal  and disregard /proc/kcore (128T) as it's a virtual file
[14:07] <malmalmal> ok step by step
[14:07] <malmalmal> first trash, where do I find trash ? is it a hidden file on root ?
[14:07] <malmalmal> or home ?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, hidden in /home
[14:07] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, /home/.trash-001        or quite similar
[14:09] <AlexPortable> I did something wrong
[14:09] <AlexPortable> now font settings are all messed up. how can i revert?
[14:09] <AlexPortable> mouse is different, fonts suck (small), maximise is on right side
[14:09] <malmalmal> can't find trash under /home or /home/user
[14:09] <AlexPortable> no minimize nutton
[14:09] <malmalmal> where user is user's name
[14:09] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, move on ...
[14:10] <malmalmal> ok I won't search for trash, then
[14:10] <malmalmal> going to check downloads, movies and the like manually first
[14:10] <malmalmal> will be back afterwards, thannk you!
[14:10] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, sounds like a plan
[14:11] <eeee> malmalmal: /.local/share/Trash/
[14:11] <AlexPortable> malmalmal: why do you need trash?
[14:11] <eeee> from your home dir
[14:18] <yossarianuk> hi - I have 2 GPU's on my system - an external Nvidia one (my main one) #
[14:19] <Dlamll> ubuntu 怎么设置http代理啊？
[14:19] <yossarianuk> sorry
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !cn| Dlamll,
[14:25] <AlexPortable> When will ubuntu go flat like os x 10.10?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, no plans for same.  no need either.
[14:25] <AlexPortable> is there any theme that does it for me?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, there are such themes, though I don't know where you'd find the Unity versions.
[14:26] <AlexPortable> unity not neccessarely required
[14:26] <AlexPortable> more gnome fallback
[14:27] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, ubuntu + osx + theme      are your search terms.
[14:27] <AlexPortable> well that gives me mavericks themes
[14:27] <AlexPortable> which are ugly
[14:27] <AlexPortable> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6MhhlhhOpSQ/U1VXcAbIttI/AAAAAAAAIVw/FWdIjv3ycy8/s1600/mac-unity-tweak-1.jpg
[14:28] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, actually macbuntu might be the place to sart
[14:28] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, and, of course, www.gnome-look.org
[14:29] <olie> Is anyone available for a network sharing question ?
[14:29] <streulma> hmmmm, I have problem with high resolutions, is there a solution for crisp fonts on scaled resolutions? (1440x900) Retina Macbook Pro 13 inch
[14:30] <streulma> fonts in Chrome and Firefox looks terrible
[14:30] <streulma> bad for my eyes
[14:31] <glcheetham> hi guys, just made the switch a tiling window manager (i3) and I want to get rid of all the gnome packages that I will never use again without breaking the dependencies for chromium, filezilla etc (I assume that this just means making sure I keep gtk) However, when I "apt-get remove --purge gnome-*" apt decides that it wants to install a ton of packages (including mir etc etc) along with removing the ones I told it to r
[14:31] <glcheetham> emove. What do you think is going on?
[14:31] <AlexPortable> ok
[14:31] <AlexPortable> what is default ubuntu font?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, strangely enough "ubuntu"
[14:32] <AlexPortable> lol
[14:33] <yossarianuk> hi - I have 2 GPU's on my system - an external Nvidia one (my main one)  and a intel one (ingergrated)  - the main one (nvidia) shows the desktop - the intel one just shows the kubuntu logo - how do I control what is on the2nd (intel) GPU?
[14:33] <trijntje> glcheetham: if a package depends on gnome-* or something else, apt will install something else if you remove gnome
[14:33] <Novice201y> Is Ubuntu 14.10.1 being planed?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, no.  it's already been released - about 6 weeks ago.
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, dOH!  never mind
[14:34] <yossarianuk> hi - I have 2 GPU's on my system - an external Nvidia one (my main one)  and a intel one (ingergrated)  - the main one (nvidia) shows the desktop - the intel one just shows the kubuntu logo - how do I control what is on the2nd (intel) GPU?
[14:34] <TJ-> yossarianuk: Define an additional X screen in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[14:35] <yossarianuk> (sorry)
[14:35] <Novice201y> cfhowlett: I mean 14.10 (from October).
[14:35] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, 14.10 is still in beta.  no work on 14.10.1 until it's released
[14:35] <yossarianuk> (didn't mean to re-post..)
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  the current version is 14.04.1
[14:35] <yossarianuk> thanks TJ:
[14:35] <yossarianuk> thanks TJ-:
[14:36] <AlexPortable> any way to disable animations in unity?
[14:36] <AlexPortable> it takes 5 seconds to open dash
[14:36] <glcheetham> trijntje, is there a package that I can remove which will conveniently get rid of all the gnome-extra packages for me (like gnome-calculator etc)?
[14:36] <streulma> has Ubuntu 14.10 better HiDPI support in Unity ?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  try ccsm
[14:36] <AlexPortable> what is it?
[14:36] <malmalmal> Hello, I am trying to free space on command prompt and I found, under documents, several files starting with "ubn"
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !14.10 | streulma,
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> streulma  14.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[14:36] <malmalmal> one of them I'd like to delete
[14:36] <yossarianuk> AlexPortable: try unity-tweak-tool
[14:36] <TJ-> glcheetham: You'll need to identify the dependencies; I did something similar earlier. "dpkg -l '*gnome*' | grep '^ii'  ", "apt-cache rdepends <package>" and  "apt-cache depends <package>" will help
[14:37] <yossarianuk> AlexPortable: i would avoid ccsm it can break your desktop/.
[14:37] <glcheetham> TJ, cheers
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm | AlexPortable
[14:37] <Novice201y> MonkeyDust: I know, and I'm planning update when 14.10.1 will arrive.
[14:37] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, /documents is empty by default.
[14:37] <malmalmal> Hello, I am trying to free space on command prompt and I found, under documents, several files starting with "ubn", one of them I'd like to delete; "ubninit" 49MB , But I am not sure what is it, seems related to unetbootin
[14:37] <malmalmal> cfhowlett, you mean it is probably safe in system terms
[14:37] <yossarianuk> i.e : http://lifehacker.com/5982844/unity-tweak-tool-customizes-every-inch-of-your-ubuntu-desktop
[14:38] <malmalmal> OS-wise, I mean
[14:38] <AlexPortable> how will it break my desktop
[14:38] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, I don't know what they are, but they aren't OS files.
[14:38] <trijntje> AlexPortable: you could disable unity with that tool, so be carefull what you select
[14:39] <Novice201y> Is it possible to set that only x.x.1 will be installed on this machine?
[14:39] <TJ-> malmalmal: You shouldn't remove files installed by packages. To find out if a file is installed by a package do "dpkg -S <file-name-path-or-fragment>"
[14:39] <AlexPortable> trijntje: ubuntu used to be lightweight
[14:39] <AlexPortable> good for old desktosp
[14:40] <AlexPortable> everything was working out of the box
[14:40] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, you could install then not dist-upgrade.  inadvisable but do-able.
[14:40] <AlexPortable> now you have to mess with uefi settings, install other stuff
[14:40] <malmalmal> thanks TJ- it does not seem to be related to packages
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  ubuntu does have lightweigt DE's, Unity is just not it
[14:40] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, things change.  if you want/need lightweight, install lubuntu or xubuntu.
[14:41] <trijntje> AlexPortable: you misremember. Things like video drivers and wireless drivers used to be a lot harder to install. And you'll have to send your complaints about uefi to microsoft ;)
[14:41] <TJ-> malmalmal: The path to the file will often tell you if it is installed by or created by a package
[14:41] <Novice201y> cfhowlett: Or I can set to install only LTS (cause next will arrive in 2018 or 2019) and when 14.10.1 do dist-upgrade.
[14:41] <AlexPortable> lubuntu and xubuntu are too limited and ugly
[14:41] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, next LTS will be 2016 and yes you can set LTS only on your system.  note: 14.10 IS NOT LTS.
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  then use something light and beautiful
[14:41] <malmalmal> another question, I am using ls -lSh | less , to ouput files in size order .... I am doing this to delete the biggies, BUT I noticed that folders do not appear with their actual size, including what they contain... plus I actually am not sure how to identify folders from files
[14:42] <Novice201y> cfhowlett: Exactly - if 14.10 is not LTS, then 14.10.0 will not be installed automatically.
[14:42] <malmalmal> would there be an option to ls that outputs the size of folders including what they contain ?
[14:42] <TJ-> Novice201y: "/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" and the "Prompt=lts"
[14:42] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: like what?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, choose.  if you want LTS only, your system won't install 14.10
[14:43] <trijntje> malmalmal: du -sh folder
[14:43] <trijntje> malmalmal: or you can go graphical with boabab, it's installed by default
 malmalmal: To analyse where the most disk-space is in use, do "sudo du --one-file-system --max-depth=2 / | sort -n" to find 2 levels of usage sorted so largest use is listed last
[14:43] <Novice201y> Novice201y: But, when I'll know that 14.10.1 arrived then I'll change settings to accept non-LTS dist-upgrades.
[14:43] <malmalmal> thank you both
[14:44] <malmalmal> boabab not present
[14:44] <yossarianuk>  xrandr --listproviders -> shows both
[14:44] <TJ-> Novice201y: There isn't a point release of non-LTS
[14:44] <malmalmal> unless I have to specify path for boabab, trijntje
[14:45] <trijntje> malmalmal: what are you running? Ubuntu desktop has boabab installed by default
[14:45] <malmalmal> it is actually baobab but not present
[14:45] <malmalmal> xubuntu
[14:45] <Novice201y> TJ-: What do You mean?
[14:45] <malmalmal> TJ- I am actually trying to get sizes within Documents and Downloads
[14:46] <trijntje> malmalmal: you can install it from the software center if its not installed
[14:46] <malmalmal> i can't access the system
[14:46] <malmalmal> i am on recovery command prompt
 malmalmal: "du --max-depth=1 $HOME/Documents | sort -n"
[14:46] <malmalmal> thanks TJ-
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  there are beautiful distro's, but you suggest ubuntu cannot offer what you want
[14:47] <TJ-> malmalmal: You'll need to replace $USER with the real user, otherwise it'll resolve to root not the user account you're aiming for
[14:47] <malmalmal> can I not give the path if I am under it ?
[14:47] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: well it used to offer what i want at 10.04
[14:47] <AlexPortable> before unity
[14:48] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, proceeed carefully, doublecheck your doublecheck
[14:48] <TJ-> malmalmal: You'd need to provide at least the relative path "."
[14:48] <AlexPortable> running unity feels like benchmarking
[14:48] <AlexPortable> makes the computer slow
[14:48] <cfhowlett> !flavors | AlexPortable, you need not use unity.  NEED NOT
[14:48] <AlexPortable> and 100% load
[14:48] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, suggest you check ubuntu-gnome
[14:49] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: gnome is not intuitive
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  is there anything you *do* like about ubuntu? if not, don't use it
[14:49] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, adapt to change or choose another distro.  you are free.  best of luck
[14:49] <AlexPortable> the font, the name
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  and the wallpaers, no doubt
[14:50] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, the name?  the NAME?  seriously?
[14:50] <sakamop> It's a nice name.
[14:51] <TJ-> Any name that needed Nelson Mandala to explain how to pronounce, is arguably not a good name! :)
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> gNewSense is pronounced "nuisance" ;)
[14:52] <sakamop> Natural pronounciation is totally broken
[14:52] <cfhowlett> !gnu
[14:52] <malmalmal> TJ- can I get the size output human readable? as in MB ? should i check du man pagE ?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, yes, see the du man page
[14:53] <Netham45> malmalmal, add -h
[14:53] <malmalmal> great thank you all
[14:53] <sakamop> Actually out of the ones I speak, English is probably the most insane, with the most weird corner cases and special exceptions. That's well off-topic though.
[14:54] <TJ-> malmalmal: If you don't want to sort the output, yes. Drop the pipe into sort, and use "-h" in addition
[14:54] <sakamop> I had to be taught how to pronounce the name "Lisa" :-(
[14:58] <AlexPortable> installed ubuntu, installed some themes, now i get black screen
[14:58] <AlexPortable> i think its problem with lightdm
[14:58] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, could you login?
[14:59] <AlexPortable> in ctrl alt f1 yes
[15:00] <AlexPortable> how to revert lightdm to original settings?
[15:00] <eeee> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ?
[15:00] <malmalmal> Question ! I booted in recovery then command prompt and am trying to move files from hd to a usb I just inserted. But I am an an intermediate noob and am not sure how to access the usb drive, nor if it is mounted!
[15:00] <eeee> malmalmal: df will tell you if it
[15:01] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, "mount"      will return what is mounted
[15:01] <malmalmal> i'd say is NOT mounted
[15:01] <malmalmal> how do I go about mounting
[15:01] <AlexPortable> nope still black screen
[15:01] <AlexPortable> can anyone help me on this?
[15:01] <TJ-> malmalmal: For root/recovery we usually mount on or under "/mnt/"
[15:02] <TJ-> malmalmal: So e.g. "mount /dev/sdX6 /mnt"
[15:02] <malmalmal> thanks TJ- but I am a bit confused on where to find the unmounted drive
[15:03] <AlexPortable> eeee: well that doesn't removes the black screen
[15:03] <malmalmal> TJ- I can't see a "dev/sdb" sort of thing anywhere under df or mount
[15:03] <TJ-> malmalmal: It is a device right now, under /dev/sd??
[15:04] <eeee> malmalmal: lsblk
[15:04] <TJ-> malinator: If you've connected the device and know what devices/partitions are already there, then "cat /proc/partitions" should help you identify the external device. It'll usually have the last drive letter to be assigned
[15:05] <TJ-> grrr, tab-complete gremlins again
[15:05] <malmalmal> my god this is like a crash course on command prompt maneuvers, thanks guys
[15:06] <AlexPortable> anyone>?
[15:06] <malmalmal> eeee TJ- , with lsblk I can see that this USB device, when connected, adds a sdb->sdb1 and a sdc->sdc1 lines
[15:06] <malmalmal> sdb seems 4m, while sdc 8GB almost, I believe that is the one I should mount ?
[15:07] <malmalmal> 8GB would be the USB total diskspace
[15:07] <eeee> malmalmal: do you have a sd card or something connected too?
[15:07] <malmalmal> eeee nope, and I can confirm that both sdb and sdc belong to the usb drive, as they dissapear when unplugging
[15:08] <eeee> malmalmal: ok, mount sdc and see the files i guess
[15:08] <eeee> mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[15:08] <_unreal_> malmalmal, type lsblk
[15:09] <TJ-> malmalmal: Is the device a multimode device? It looks like a cellular modem that has both a virtual CDROM file-system and an SD-card slot
[15:09] <_unreal_> that will list the devices and there mount points and there root source
[15:09] <_unreal_> oh  never mind
[15:10] <malmalmal> Ok thank you... eeee TJ- BUT actually, I am thinking, could I actually boot on live USB and just go on deleting and moving files through GUi?
[15:10] <eeee> malmalmal: yes, you could
[15:10] <TJ-> malmalmal: Yes, of course.
[15:10] <malmalmal> thanks
[15:10] <_unreal_> malmalmal, what is your exact need with this usb storage drive?
[15:11] <malmalmal> it is ok now, _unreal_ , trying to free diskspace on a not booting xubuntu, trhough recovery command prompt, but I better use the GUI on a live usb, right now I was trying to move files to an unmounted usb
[15:11] <malmalmal> look mom I talk in a way many people would not understand already YAY
[15:11] <malmalmal> jaja
[15:12] <_unreal_> hum....
[15:12] <malmalmal> THANK YOU LINUX
[15:12] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, the penguin loves you too.
[15:12] <AlexPortable> what does jaja means?
[15:12] <_unreal_> malmalmal, if your trying to use gui to do file manipulation why not just boot to a live distro off CD
[15:13] <malmalmal> that is actually what I am doing, dear
[15:13] <malmalmal> but thanks for the tip
[15:13] <faqih> hello :D
[15:14] <_unreal_> ok.... I guess I'v missed to much of the original conversation
[15:14] <_unreal_> hi
[15:14] <TJ-> AlexPortable: "jaja" is a Spanish (and other) language laugh, which in English is usually written as "haha" or "hehe"
[15:14] <_unreal_> or tee hee hee
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  in german and dutch, it means "yes yes"
[15:15] <malmalmal> JAJAJA
[15:15] <malmalmal> i mean... hahaha
[15:15] <malmalmal> or "fufufufu" like they go on manga
[15:15] <malmalmal> oder "kyakyakya"
[15:16] <malmalmal> OK GUI OMG SO NICE
[15:16] <malmalmal> MUCH EASIER, although less learning
[15:16] <faqih> Ubuntu is more easy now ._.
[15:17] <vitimiti> But that's good
[15:17] <AlexPortable> Is there any way I can make changes to ubuntu and make my own distro?
[15:17] <AlexPortable> so it's install and done?
[15:17] <AlexPortable> instead having to configure every pc
[15:17] <Amoz> AlexPortable, there are some projects, I think one is called remastersys
[15:17] <vitimiti> There were several programs to create spin offs
[15:18] <cfhowlett> Amoz, AlexPortable sorry, but remastersys is no more
[15:18] <Amoz> cfhowlett, oh, nvm then :)
[15:18] <AlexPortable> or would it be better to make an installscript?
[15:18] <TJ-> Alexandro: Use preseed files, or other orchestration tools
[15:18] <AlexPortable> doubleclick, wait, ???, profit
[15:18] <TJ-> AlexPortable: Use preseed files, or other orchestration tools
[15:18] <AlexPortable> what is that?
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  if you should invent you own spinoff, these names are already taken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#mediaviewer/File:UbuntuFamilyTree1210.svg
[15:19] <TJ-> AlexPortable: see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html
[15:21] <AlexPortable> thanks
[15:22] <Klas5> hello
[15:23] <Klas5> For some reason when I try to run >emacs & it doesnt open it in "background"
[15:23] <marianne> hi guys... small issue, running 14.04 and I have an external HD that isn't showing up when I plug it in. It's NTFS formatted, but that never seemed to matter before.... help?
[15:23] <Klas5> but stops my termina
[15:23] <Klas5> any one knows why?
[15:23] <cfhowlett> emacs
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> marianne  does it show in lsblk?
[15:23] <Klas5> huh
[15:23] <Amoz> are there any guides where one can read about stuff that is good to do to my server every now and then? E.g. remove old packages and clean up the system in different ways?
[15:24] <eeee> Klas5: what's the exact command you're running?
[15:24] <TJ-> Klas5: because it wants terminal input, so presumably suspends when it is put into the background
[15:24] <Klas5> >emacs makefile &
[15:24] <eeee> Klas5: drop the >
[15:24] <Klas5> well yeah
[15:24] <Klas5> > is the prompts
[15:24] <eeee> emacs makefile &
[15:25] <knightshade> use vim instead :>
[15:25] <marianne> MonkeyDust: lsbsk?
[15:25] <Klas5> so yeah I write "emacs makefile &" and it opens the file alright
[15:25] <Klas5> but the terminal becomes unusable until I do ctrl+c
[15:25] <malmalmal> hello again! is there any way to make (x)ubuntu's file manager (on live usb) give me the actual size of folders + its content instead of 12,3kb etc ? or is "du" the only way ?
[15:26] <marianne> MonkeyDust: ok, figured that out and the answer is nope
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> marianne  open a terminal and type lsblk ... does it show your external drive?
[15:26] <marianne> MonkeyDust: nope
[15:26] <Klas5> and it gives some "Warning: Cannot convert string '-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> !ntfs | marianne is this useful
[15:30] <TJ-> Got an interesting issue here. Fresh install (of 14.04 kubuntu-desktop) via debootstrap. Worked fine, then suspended to S3 due to inactivity. Resumed but had no keyboard input, so did SysRq+S then SysRq+B to reboot. Now mountall (via Upstart init) is failing to mount the tmpfs on /tmp. That is defined in "/lib/init/fstab". Other file-systems defined there are mounted. So far not found any log entries to give a clue.
[15:31] <TJ-> Result is, log-ins fails since permissions on /tmp/ are not 777 and KDE in particular complains  "Call to lnusertemp failed {temporary directories full?}. Check your installation?" after authentication then returns to the greeter login
[15:40] <lekhraj>  Encrypted NFS without Kerberos possible?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> !info kerberos
[15:41] <Gractu> hi Rohan_14
[15:41] <Rohan_14> Gractu: hi
[15:41] <Gractu> india?
[15:43] <eeee> !india | Gractu
[15:43] <Gractu> ok
[15:46] <n1xman> Hi! Is there any windows equivalent of the buntu "Startup Disk Creator"? Otherwise, can the app be used from a vm installinside VirtualBox?
[15:47] <n1xman> I want to put the installer (from downloaded iso" to a usb stick
[15:47] <bekks> n1xman: There are various usb boot media creator applications on Windows. But ##windows may know more about them.
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  try yummi, but better ask in yhe windows channel
[15:48] <eeee> n1xman: lili , linux live usc creator
[15:48] <eeee> *usb
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> or yuma or some such name
[15:48] <knightshade> n1xman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> n1xman: you mean like unetbootin?  http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ also had luck with this on windows
[15:49] <n1xman> bekks, MonkeyDust , I want to create the bootable installer for Ubuntu. So, isn't that rather Ubuntu-specific?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  are you now in windows or in ubuntu?
[15:50] <bekks> n1xman: Hmm, nope. Since for those apps it is irrelevant which ISO you are using for creating a bootable medium.
[15:50] <n1xman> MonkeyDust: Win
[15:50] <eeee> n1xman: lili , see the link above ^^^
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  i'm sure someone in ##windows can tell you how windows works
[15:51] <theclockknowsall> I still like Ubuntu 12.04 even though it is old  because It is fast to boot, fast to process and fast  to browse even download stuff.
[15:53] <_unreal_> that was random
[15:53] <n1xman> eeee: Thanks, man! That LILI looks exactly what I need.
[15:53] <eeee> np, yeah it's nice
[15:53] <gabor> hi
[15:53] <zubairahmed> Hi
[15:54] <n1xman> But it would still be nice if ubuntu devs made a win version of the startup disk creator
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  why would they work for windows?
[15:55] <zubairahmed> There are many n1xman
[15:56] <fbdystang> Hi, I am trying to download and install the newest ubuntu. The newest version is too big for a regular CDR/W. It requires a DVDR/W. Is there some alternate version that is small enough to fit on a regular CDR/W?
[15:56] <malmalmal> Hello again. I am fixing a pc with dualboot winxp / xubuntu, that had run out of HD space and so it was not booting. I successfully freed enough HD on xubuntu for it to boot and work yay!. But the problem will repeat itself as xubuntu's partition is only 17gb, while winxp has 32 GB of free space! Now that my friend is used to xubuntu and ready to do the total switch (keeping xp for some programs) what size would you reccomend me to
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  linux seeks to replace windows, not to help it survive
[15:56] <malmalmal> and what would be best practice on resizing the partitions?
[15:56] <malmalmal> thank you
[15:57] <n1xman> MonkeyDust: Making popular app available on multi platforms is not the same as "working for windows" since it's very objective is to make the user like ubuntu more than win and possibly switch
[15:57] <zubairahmed> fbdystang
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  IBM did that with OS/2 warp and by doing so, made OS/2 obsolote
[15:58] <zubairahmed> Can u boot from USB
[15:58] <TenLeftFingers> I've installed 14.04 on my machine and the KWorker thread is eating up 50 - 75% of my CPU. Google shows a lot of similar complaints but the root cause for that bug is in combination with the nfs-server. I don't have this. Does anyone know what else might be causing this? ... I *did* install and configure samba server now that I think of it.
[15:59] <n1xman> MonkeyDust: I don't know about that, but I'm sure it won't be the same for ubuntu. It wasn't exactly THAT which made that obsolete - I'm sure there were better reasons
[15:59] <fbdystang> zubairahmed, I'll have to check and see if BIOS will let me. Where can I download the USB version?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  microsoft could also develop multiplatform, in favor of ubuntu
[16:01] <zubairahmed> Fbdystang its the same version. Just use live USB disk creator and make a bootable USB from the same iso
[16:01] <fbdystang> nev mind found it
[16:01] <fbdystang> yeah thanks
[16:05] <n1xman> MonkeyDust: MS isn't ubuntu, and they don't "need" to lure users from ubuntu. A cross-platform ver of the aforementioned app will only benefit ubuntu and make it more attractive to potential new users.
[16:06] <SchrodingersScat> n1xman: so you're upset that the 2-3 tools aren't official ubuntu tools?
[16:06] <n1xman> I'm not saying EVERY ubuntu app should be available on windows - only the ones to help the users switch from it to ubuntu as quickly and painlessly as possible
[16:06] <DJHenjin> im using the Linux Development 3.13.0-35-lowlatency #62-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT build, and every time i execute something that runs at an extremely high rate with lots of memory access required for some complex calculations (im a developer/cryptanalyst) either the process that I instantiated crashes within a few seconds, or my entire system reboots any ideas?
[16:07] <fbdystang> zubairahmed, If BIOS wont let me, is there a smaller version somewhere?
[16:08] <n1xman> SchrodingersScat: not quite. But at least a list of the best tools should be mentioned on the download page to help newbies.
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> n1xman  the same counts for adobe and macromedia: more users
[16:09] <eeee> fbdystang: you can use the network install
[16:09] <Sinistrad> I'm having problems with lightdm, or at least I think I am. This morning, when I tried to resume my session, the screen was black. I CTRL ALT F7 and got a message that it would send me to the unlock screen in a few seconds, but it didn't. I CTRL ALT F8, and got a login prompt. I had to go back to F7 to reach my desktop. Here is my lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8280317/
[16:09] <n1xman> Well, thanks guys. I gotta run now. see ya later
[16:09] <zubairahmed> Yes check previous versions 2011 maybe. These isos can be burned on CD and then upgrade online fbdystang
[16:09] <eeee> fbdystang: it'll download it and then install
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> n1xman: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows this link is available from the download page, under how to put on usb from windows
[16:12] <fbdystang> eeee: so will it download in windows and install over the top of itself?
[16:13] <eeee> fbdystang: no it's a small iso, you burn to cd and boot,
[16:13] <jcorgan> need help fixing a wiped out /boot partition
[16:13] <eeee> then it downloads and installs
[16:13] <n1xman> SchrodingersScat: Damn! How blind am I? :P I initially clicked on this one: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu Thanks man!
[16:13] <fbdystang> eeee, ahhh, thats a cool way to do it. Thanks
[16:14] <jcorgan> i'm able to boot from a livedvd and i've run grub-install successfully, and copied the livedvd kernel over to the partition
[16:14] <jcorgan> but i don't quite know how to finish it up
[16:14] <eeee> jcorgan: ?
[16:15] <jcorgan> i accidentally deleted all the files in /boot
[16:15] <eeee> oh
[16:15] <eeee> did you chroot into your installation?
[16:15] <jcorgan> so i can boot from a livedvd and have access to the partitions
[16:15] <jcorgan> but it's been awhile and my grub-fu is not at its highest
[16:16] <jcorgan> no, i mounted the partition and did a grub-install --boot-directory=...
[16:17] <jcorgan> but chrooting makes more sense, duh
[16:18] <jcorgan> it will take a bit to get that set up, i'll be back in a few
[16:19] <n00bh4x0r> y
[16:19] <n00bh4x0r> whats up
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> i'm able to install a chroot, but from there, never managed to have access to my "host" ubuntu
[16:20] <n00bh4x0r> i just hacked into my neightboors network and downloaded all his pron
[16:20] <n00bh4x0r> i hope he will never know
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> n00bh4x0r  wrong channel
[16:20] <cfhowlett> n00bh4x0r, you are in the wrong channel.  please play elsewhere
[16:20] <n00bh4x0r> :D
[16:20] <n00bh4x0r> ok
[16:20] <n00bh4x0r> where is the right channel
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> n00bh4x0r  alt/f4 to have list
[16:25] <hackersarchangel> … lol n00bh4x0r actually fell for that.
[16:25] <cfhowlett> hackersarchangel, ask your ubuntu questions
[16:26] <hackersarchangel> I don’t have any?
[16:26] <hackersarchangel> I’m in here to either help, or learn something new
[16:26] <hackersarchangel> also waiting on someone to wake up in ubuntu-touch
[16:26] <hackersarchangel> so I can pester them about a problem I’ve been having.
[16:27] <cfhowlett> hackersarchangel, pestering the volunteers?  really?
[16:27] <hackersarchangel> it’s a joke .lol
[16:28] <hackersarchangel> *** joke. lol
[16:28] <hackersarchangel> My apologies I just got it out of bed.
[16:28] <hackersarchangel> *up
[16:28] <hackersarchangel> sigh.
[16:29] <_unreal_> lol alt+f4 clasic
[16:30] <_unreal_> whois n00bh4x0r
[16:33] <hackersarchangel> Turn it up loud Captain! - U2
[16:35] <georg_wien_w> hi! i need help with my printer in ubuntu 14.04
[16:35] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, details?
[16:35] <isene> any experts on vifm here?
[16:36] <DaZ> i wonder how it compares to ranger :v
[16:36] <georg_wien_w> print jobs from libre office work, but only the first job. PDFs don't ever work. its a hp 2550l color laser jet
[16:37] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, what printer driver do you have installed
[16:37] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, ONLY libreoffice prints fail?
[16:37] <cfhowlett> *work*?
[16:37] <kxtwo> Hey guys, I am running a dual boot laptop with 13.10 and windblows.  When I power on I get the warning .10 is no longer supported and I should upgrade t 14.04 lts. I am willing to do it but want to make sure it isn't going to blow out my windows partition or cause me any problems.  A friend said he did it and lost his windows so thought I'd come ask the experts first.
[16:38] <georg_wien_w> only libreoffice works, at least the first job. everything else fails
[16:38] <cfhowlett> kxtwo, upgrade in place will not touch windows.
[16:38] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, and what driver did you install?
[16:38] <kxtwo> cfhowlett, , no known problems with upgrading at this time?  All of my current settings and files froom 13.10 will be intact?
[16:39] <georg_wien_w> i tried different ones, first the ones from hplip then some ppd from the printer cd
[16:39] <cfhowlett> kxtwo, in place upgrade will not bother your settings or your data
[16:39] <georg_wien_w> the printer led starts to blink but the job never starts
[16:40] <ZiNk> kxtwo: it is only reinstall from disk that removes all other partitions
[16:40] <kxtwo> cfhowlett, thanks man.  My final question will be, is there any negativity you can think of with me doing an upgrade in place?  Eventually I will wipe this laptop and do a fresh install but super busy right now so looking for quick solutions.
[16:40] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, run localhost:631 in firefox.  (this is the CUPS printer utility).  verify your printer settings
[16:40] <georg_wien_w> already did. everything seems to be ok
[16:41] <cfhowlett> kxtwo, I prefer clean install over upgrade in place but YMMV.  If you have a reasonably fast connection, go for it.
[16:41] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, cat /etc/issue
[16:41] <cfhowlett> in a terminal
[16:41] <georg_wien_w> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:42] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, on the chance that pieces might be missing:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:42] <kxtwo> cfhowlett, I am going to sound like an idiot I am sure but, YMMV?  Your mileage may vary? lol
[16:42] <cfhowlett> apt-get dist-upgrad
[16:42] <cfhowlett> apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:42] <cfhowlett> apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:42] <cfhowlett> kxtwo, correctomundo!
[16:43] <cfhowlett> !ymmv | kxtwo
[16:43] <kxtwo> cfhowlett, lol thanks, this machine is an older dell I just use it for school.  Going to reboot now and do the upgrade, hopefully machine runs a little better, its been sluggish since support stopped
[16:43] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, on cups, did you check the error log?
[16:46] <TenLeftFingers> Ubuntu password dialog doesn't always indicate that CAPS LOCK is pressed. Alt + tabbing fixes it. What should I file against?
[16:47] <georg_wien_w> everything done! sorry errors weren't logged i changed that now
[16:48] <georg_wien_w> will have a try with a print job now
[16:48] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, test print, read the errors for clues.
[16:49] <georg_wien_w> first print from libreoffice as usual worked withoud problems
[16:49] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, do a pdf and an editor file
[16:50] <georg_wien_w> surprisingly second job from libre office worked as well. Didn't had that yet! will try the editor an than the pdf
[16:52] <georg_wien_w> editor printing fails. printer blinks but nothing happens
[16:52] <cfhowlett> georg_wien_w, see the log!
[16:52] <DaZ> maybe it's doing *stuff*
[16:53] <malmalmal> Hello
[16:53] <toad1> Hi, could anybody help me this problem: http://dpaste.com/3QGK5DS
[16:53] <DaZ> i have hp somethingjet and it blinks for a while before it prints
[16:53] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, !  all problems fixed?
[16:53] <pgnome> I cannot find preferences in the file manager... this distro really sucks now
[16:53] <pgnome> has anyone switched from ubuntu to something else?
[16:53] <pgnome> can never change the defaults
[16:53] <xangua> pgnome: Edit menu, preferences
[16:54] <pgnome> not there... I am using gnome
[16:54] <malmalmal> cfhowlett :)) since xubuntu was 99% hd full it would not boot, after freeing some space it boots! no broken update. Now I went to windows xp and unassigned 20GB
[16:54] <pgnome> there's no 'preferences' anywhere
[16:54] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, man, you are GOOD!
[16:54] <malmalmal> and I am trying to expand xubuntu's partition to take this 20GB although I could use some help
[16:54] <pgnome> in older versions of ubuntu, there was a preferences
[16:54] <malmalmal> thank youuu!
[16:54] <malmalmal> jeje
[16:55] <pgnome> there's only 'properties'
[16:55] <pgnome> what a pos
[16:55] <melle> Me, to arch linux
[16:55] <malmalmal> chfowlett, maybe you can help with expanding the partition ?
[16:55] <jj--> usb modem drives me absolutely nuts on ubuntu 14.04, it just disconnects on connect here is syslog http://pastebin.com/x68CiSKd
[16:55] <jj--> any help appreciated
[16:55] <pgnome> I want a preview of pictures (thumbnails) instead of the default
[16:55] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, haven't done that in a while.  I seem to recall that gparted requires the empty space be located next to the target you want to enlarge.
[16:55] <pgnome> default of tree and sunset
[16:56] <Sinistrad> I'm having problems with lightdm, or at least I think I am. This morning, when I tried to resume my session, the screen was black. I CTRL ALT F7 and got a message that it would send me to the unlock screen in a few seconds, but it didn't. I CTRL ALT F8, and got a login prompt. I had to go back to F7 to reach my desktop. Here is my lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8280317/
[16:56] <malmalmal> I drop the question: I have a pc dualboot xp/xubuntu, unassigned 20GB of space from xp partition, and now would like my xubuntu partition to expand to take those. I booted live xubuntu and into Gparted. It shows dev/sda3 as xubuntu, divided into sda5 and sda6 (main and swap), the unassigned space is OUTSIDE of sda3, should I get it inside to expand? how to? thank you
[16:57] <hackersarchangel> cfhowlett is correct, that space should be next to it when resizing. However you are also better off using the Live CD to do that malmalmal
[16:57] <hackersarchangel> Ok so it’s on the other side of SDA4
[16:57] <hackersarchangel> ?
[16:57] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, would I correct: you want more room for /home?
[16:58] <Datz> Hi, I have a question about dropbox. It appears as though I'e installed it with the package mananger, and this morning it gave me a message that it needs to be updated. It no longer seems to be syncing my files, and when I ran updates, dropbox wasn't included as one, so it must be getting an external update message. I'm running 12.04. Any thoughts/suggestions welcome. Thanks.
[16:59] <malmalmal> cfhowlett I do not seem to have a separate home
[16:59] <cfhowlett> !home | malmalmal, you might find that very helpful here.
[16:59] <malmalmal> ubottu I believe that is not what I am trying to achieve
[16:59] <SchrodingersScat> Datz: that's odd, I don't see dropbox in my repos, had you maybe downloaded a .deb off their website?
[17:00] <hackersarchangel> malmalmal, where is the free space? between SDA3 and SDA4
[17:00] <Datz> SchrodingersScat: that's what I thought too. But I aptitide search dropbox and found "i   nautilus-dropbox"
[17:00] <malmalmal> hackersarchangel, the freespace is unassigned and OUTSIDE of any partition at the moment, including xubuntu's partition which is sda3 and CONTAINS two more partitions, called sda5 (main) and sda6 (swap)
[17:01] <malmalmal> Id like to expand sda5 to take the unassigned space that is OUTSIDE of sda3
[17:01] <Sinistrad> Datz, I think that's for nautilus integration
[17:01] <hackersarchangel> AH I got it.
[17:01] <hackersarchangel> Ok so you want it get into SDA5 yes?
[17:01] <malmalmal> yep
[17:01] <malmalmal> :)
[17:01] <pgnome> there is no nautilus... it's called 'files' lol
[17:01] <pgnome> what a pos
[17:01] <hackersarchangel> right click on SDA5 and hit resize.
[17:01] <Datz> Sinistrad: I see, so to update I should just run a deb from their site then?
[17:02] <pgnome> how do you get 'preferences?
[17:02] <hackersarchangel> See if it will let you do that, it sounds like you have what we call an “extended partition”
[17:02] <malmalmal> hackersarchangel don
[17:02] <hackersarchangel> which is containing SDA5 and SDA6
[17:02] <malmalmal> done
[17:02] <toad1> Hi, could anybody help me this problem: http://dpaste.com/3QGK5DS
[17:02] <malmalmal> wait wait
[17:02] <pgnome> use mint instead... at least, the thumbnail preview works properly
[17:02] <malmalmal> hackersarchangel, it seems that sda3 contains sda5 and sda6
[17:02] <hackersarchangel> yep
[17:02] <hackersarchangel> that’s what I surmised.
[17:02] <malmalmal> you want me to attempt to resize sda3 or sda5 ?
[17:03] <Sinistrad> Datz, That is your best bet. I'm not sure if there's a PPA for dropbox, but if there is, it might make future updates easier.
[17:03] <hackersarchangel> try resizing SDA5
[17:03] <Datz> Sinistrad: I see. I'll check. Thanks.
[17:03] <hackersarchangel> see if it will even let you. You may need to resize sda3 first, then do sda5 malmalmal
[17:03] <Sinistrad> Datz, No problem. I actually need to install it on my system too. New install here =)
[17:03] <malmalmal> the meny allows me to take the space before or after, but i have to input the size manually, let me try with sda3
[17:04] <platinov> hi )
[17:04] <Datz> Sinistrad: nice. Yeah.. I should probably update beyond 12.04.. :P
[17:04] <malmalmal> I cannot resize sda3, I have to say that the swap partition (sda6 under sda3) allows me to deactive swap when rightclicking
[17:04] <hackersarchangel> ok and sda5 doesn’t show free space before or after that?
[17:05] <georg_wien_w> i tried it now again and again but cups tells me under http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log  NOT FOUND. don't know why. but under printer status cups tells me printer doesn't react
[17:05] <malmalmal> it does not specify any available space, hackersarchangel, although it allows me to specify manually
[17:05] <platinov> i used Linux platinov-komputing 3.13.0-35-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 15 01:58:01 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[17:06] <hackersarchangel> ok.
[17:06] <malmalmal> hackersarchangel I am pretty sure that sda5 does not "see" the unassigned space when attempting to resize, because it is outside its parent partition (sda3)
[17:06] <hackersarchangel> Found a link for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/258640/how-to-add-a-space-from-outside-an-extended-partition-to-a-logical-partition-con
[17:07] <hackersarchangel> malmalmal: ^^^
[17:07] <malmalmal> [windows] [unassigned] [ sda3 [sda5][sda6] ]
[17:07] <malmalmal> great, thanks , checking
[17:07] <platinov> ^_^
[17:07] <hackersarchangel> Thats exactly right malmalmal, so you will need to get it to resize sda3 first.
[17:09] <malmalmal> problem is I cannot resize sd3, it does have an icon of a key, I assume problem is that it is locked for resizing, possibly because swap is active ?
[17:09] <platinov> Ukraine like you!)
[17:09] <malmalmal> is it safe, being on a liveCD, to deactivate swap under gparted, in order to resize the extended partition ?
[17:09] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, wait, are you live USB or did you boot from HDD?
[17:09] <malmalmal> I am on a live usb
[17:09] <hackersarchangel> are you positive?
[17:10] <malmalmal> booted on liveusb, then run gparted, and looking at HD partitions
[17:10] <hackersarchangel> Ok.
[17:10] <hackersarchangel> Right click on swap, and deactivate it.
[17:10] <malmalmal> ok
[17:10] <TenLeftFingers>   /j #ubuntu-bugs
[17:10] <malmalmal> YEP YEP THAT WAS IT!
[17:11] <hackersarchangel> WOOT
[17:11] <platinov> gparted open is sudo
[17:11] <malmalmal> woot woot
[17:11] <platinov> sudo passwd
[17:11]  * hackersarchangel dances around the room.
[17:11] <cfhowlett> !cookie | hackersarchangel
[17:11]  * hackersarchangel noms on delicious cookie
[17:11] <TenLeftFingers> \j #ubunt-bugs
[17:11] <malmalmal> THANK YOU
[17:11] <malmalmal> Ok now the unassigned space is INSIDE extended partition
[17:12] <lord_garth> Is there some problem with 14.01 live boot freezing?
[17:12] <malmalmal> and I can resize sda5 (main partition under the extended partition) to accept the unassigned space
[17:12] <malmalmal> BUT, when doing so, it leaves about 1mb that it cannot eat ?
[17:12] <hackersarchangel> that’s normal.
[17:12] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, 1 mb.  relax.
[17:12] <malmalmal> lol
[17:12] <malmalmal> ok
[17:12] <hackersarchangel> It happens because of some thing with alignment.
[17:12] <malmalmal> ok I am going to do this
[17:13] <malmalmal> applying
[17:13] <hackersarchangel> I think it aligns to sectors or cylinders, not sure which one.
[17:13]  * hackersarchangel watches malmalmal take the plunge
[17:13] <lord_garth> Which Windows 8 partitions do you have to keep before you delete all others for
[17:13] <lord_garth> Ubuntu?
[17:13] <malmalmal> THE COMPUTER IS DOING IT
[17:13]  * cfhowlett holds breath and waits for a resonance cascade ...
[17:14] <malmalmal> 22 minutes to go, will get back to you afterwards, thankyou cookied to vrybody
[17:14]  * malmalmal bows
[17:17] <platinov> good lock ^_^
[17:27] <cosmicfire10> after installing new wifi  firmware (moving .ucode file to /lib/firmware) how do tell the system to use the new firmware?
[17:28] <Sinistrad> I'm having problems with lightdm, or at least I think I am. This morning, when I tried to resume my session, the screen was black. I CTRL ALT F7 and got a message that it would send me to the unlock screen in a few seconds, but it didn't. I CTRL ALT F8, and got a login prompt. I had to go back to F7 to reach my desktop. Here is my lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8280317/
[17:29] <alumno__> hi?
[17:29] <Novice201y> Hello. Watching YouTube in 14.04 Unity is very choppy. What can I do in system to make it smooth? Maybe change desktop enviroment? But I would like to keep good community-support like for mainline Ubuntu.
[17:29] <kali-rao> hi
[17:30] <Novice201y> On Lubuntu YouTube works smooth on weaker machine.
[17:30] <kali-rao> yup
[17:31] <SchrodingersScat> I youtube-dl the video then play it in mpv, I get better results
[17:31] <snarfblack> eebee
[17:33] <hackersarchangel> kali-rao: yes?
[17:33] <hackersarchangel> I don’t do PM’s
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> !pm
[17:34] <master__> i need help. i was doing a (nomodeset) on a old version of ubuntu and i think i did a (acpi=off) instead. my fan quite working. i upgraded to ubunto 14.04 it works great but still no fan operation. i am using a gateway nv79 laptop . how do i turn my fan back on ? acpi=on ? please help .
[17:35] <kali-rao> any one tell me how to hack ssh by using armitage??
[17:35] <boldfilter1> Can I move the unity launcher to the right side?
[17:35] <hackersarchangel> kali-rao: you have been ignored. Please don’t PM me without permission first.
[17:35] <bekks> master__: How did you "do" that (nomodeset) or (acpi=off) exactly?
[17:35] <master__> pm me
[17:36] <master__> through f6
[17:36] <bekks> master__: Support happens in here, not in a PM. Using F6, you can simply reboot.
[17:37] <kali-rao> ok
[17:37] <master__> im not using a liv cd its installed 14.04
[17:38] <bekks> master__: And still options changed using F6 are not preserved across reboots.
[17:38] <platinov> =P
[17:39] <master__> bekks how would i reset it and save settings
[17:40] <platinov> а есть кто с русскоязычных?)
[17:40] <ramio> hi ^^
[17:40] <platinov> hi ^_^
[17:41] <platinov> who from ua?)
[17:41] <ramio> well iam from egypt ^^
[17:42] <platinov> ramio good)
[17:42] <cfhowlett> !ru | platinov,
[17:42] <master__> can i do a acpi=on in a terminal?
[17:42] <bekks> master__: Your dont reset anything since no options are preserved across reboots.
[17:43] <bekks> master__: Did you cange any config files for setting that option?
[17:43] <master__> i might have
[17:43] <platinov> =3
[17:43] <BluesKaj> !ua | platinov
[17:44] <BluesKaj> thought ua was ukraine
[17:44] <master__> it was 6 months ago i just put 14.04 on
[17:45] <platinov> platinov@platinov-komputing:~$ uptime
[17:45] <platinov>  20:45:19 up 1 day, 22:42,  6 users,  load average: 0,71, 0,78, 0,85
[17:45] <platinov> =)
[17:45] <tigrang> I have a nvidia 6150se gpu and Im getting constant soft locks on xorg
[17:46] <TJ-> master__: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[17:46] <platinov> sudo apt-get install nvidia-currrent
[17:46] <platinov> and sudo rebbot
[17:47] <master__> ?
[17:48] <platinov> i wont cnow
[17:48] <malmalmal> hackersarchangel TJ- cfhowlett and everybody who helped: "the mouse is in the hole" ;)
[17:49] <hackersarchangel> awesome malmalmal
[17:49] <cfhowlett> malmalmal, now there's an image ...
[17:49] <hackersarchangel> well gents I’m outta here.
[17:49] <malmalmal> jejeje
[17:49] <hackersarchangel> gotta go setup a new machine for someone
[17:49] <cfhowlett> I too must leave - my people need me.
[17:49] <malmalmal> goodbye!
[17:49] <platinov> i going game cs 1.6 ) good lock)
[17:49] <malmalmal> there go the superheroesssss
[17:49] <TJ-> malmalmal: Correction: the mouse is in the Husky!
[17:50] <malmalmal> Jajaja
[17:50] <malmalmal> right
[17:50] <malmalmal> on
[17:51] <pgnome> who uses gnome here?
[17:52] <cassio3> pgnome, hey -- I like gnome a lot.
[17:52] <cassio3> I run mac os x as my primary environment, but I like gnome a lot
[17:52] <cassio3> do you run gnome classic?
[17:52] <cassio3> or gnome 3?
[17:53] <pgnome> I used to like gnome
[17:53] <pgnome> gnome 3, I guess?
[17:54] <pgnome> nautilus in gnome 3 has no 'preferences' setting
[17:54] <pgnome> files/nautilus is unusable
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> pgnome  Edit > Preferences
[17:56] <pgnome> MonkeyDust, there isn't an 'edit' menu!!
[17:57] <pgnome> closest thing is 'properties'
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> pgnome  you mean you do'nt see it... i see Edit on my nautilus
[17:58] <pgnome> oh geez!
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> pgnome  there is no bar with File etc?
[17:59] <pgnome> no bar
[17:59] <pgnome> well, it is black
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> pgnome  and are you sure it's nautilus?
[17:59] <pgnome> I fixed it... in gnome, it is at the top left.... beside 'Activities'
[18:00] <pgnome> I right-click the text to get the drop down options.... geez...
[18:00] <pgnome> sorry... I cannot get used to gnome 3! :-(
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> pgnome  feel free to use sometihing else
[18:00] <pgnome> does Unity work like this, too?
[18:01] <pgnome> I'll try to remember.... I think it will go to default again
[18:01] <pgnome> thanks MonkeyDust...
[18:04] <jr__> Why can't I access CUPS of one machine outside of my network?
[18:09] <theqqr_step> excuse me,.how to increase my swap memory?
[18:10] <theqqr_step> excuse me,.how to increase my swap memory?(use terminal)
[18:10] <daftykins> theqqr_step: what for?
[18:11] <theqqr_step> caused when i open application was slowy in loading.
[18:12] <rolleiflex> hey, does anyone know when I create a desktop file, it doesn't show the name on ubuntu launcher?
[18:12] <rolleiflex> it's just the icon
[18:12] <rolleiflex> which is cool, but.. not very useful
[18:12] <daftykins> theqqr_step: which application?
[18:12] <theqqr_step> daftykins, caused when i open application was slowy in loading.
[18:13] <theqqr_step> daftykins, all.
[18:13] <daftykins> theqqr_step: which ubuntu and what system RAM?
[18:13] <daftykins> adjusting swap doesn't make any sense toward application load time
[18:14] <theqqr_step> daftykins, but when i login with root, the loading is good.
[18:14] <theqqr_step> daftykins, 10.04 .system ram?what it's mean?
[18:14] <daftykins> you should never do that.
[18:14] <daftykins> theqqr_step: sorry, 10.04 desktop is long out of support
[18:14] <daftykins> !lucid
[18:15] <theqqr_step> daftykins, thx.
[18:16] <theqqr_step> but why when i'm loading use root, the loading is fast, but when use another login, the loading is slow. why?
[18:17] <theqqr_step> *i'm login use root
[18:17] <eeee> which application?
[18:17] <theqqr_step> daftykins, *i'm login use root..
[18:17] <daftykins> theqqr_step: i can't comment on that, you shouldn't even have a password for root let alone log in using that account
[18:18] <Beldar> theqqr_step, Moot point as that is not a good or expected use.
[18:18] <eeee> theqqr_step: some apps load a minimalistic version of the app if you launch using root
[18:18] <theqqr_step> daftykins, for this time i'm not use root.
[18:19] <theqqr_step> Beldar, eeee ,thx
[18:20] <theqqr_step> i'm try use terminal with "free -m", the result of total memory : Mem=235, Swap=254
[18:20] <nusr> hi can someone help me with ubuntu 14. i installed python3.4 and now software center won't start
[18:21] <eeee> !aptlock | nusr
[18:21] <theqqr_step> daftykins, i'm try use terminal with "free -m", the result of total memory : Mem=235, Swap=254. i'm hear that our swap must 2*memory. is that true?
[18:22] <daftykins> theqqr_step: yeah so it's an outdated ubuntu on an old low specification machine, there's nothing i can do i'm afraid. i would bury that computer
[18:22] <nusr> ubottu, thanks but i'm still getting the same message bash: /usr/bin/software-center: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file o
[18:23] <nusr> tried updating but still nothing
[18:23] <theqqr_step> daftykins, bury ? what is that ?
[18:24] <daftykins> theqqr_step: throw it away, to recycling
[18:24] <theqqr_step> daftykins, i can't do it sir. caused i'm not rich.
[18:25] <daftykins> theqqr_step: you won't be able to run a supported ubuntu on 256MB RAM, it's simply too rubbish
[18:25] <does> The best,even though it would be like walking through glue,would be lubuntu.
[18:25] <daftykins> theqqr_step: you might want to try something like puppy linux - but it will be very basic
[18:25] <TJ-> theqqr_step: If things seem to perform better when logging in as the root user, but not as a regular user, I'd guess that the user profile is autostart-ing lots of additional programs, which take up memory and then cause the swap file to be used a lot by the programs you want to work with
[18:25] <theqqr_step> daftykins, but i don't now way how to increase swap file use terminal. can u give instruction?
[18:25] <nusr> how can i reinstall
[18:26] <eeee> reinstall python
[18:26] <nusr> software center
[18:26] <eeee> sudo apt-get install --reinstall <pythonpackage>
[18:26] <nusr> software center is now in a different folder after i installed python 3.4
[18:26] <nusr> not in usr/bin
[18:27] <TJ-> theqqr_step: Increasing the swap file size won't help speed; it'll just provide more *slow* hard disk space to page contents of RAM into. "cat /proc/swaps" will tell you the current swap size and how much is used
[18:27] <theqqr_step> TJ-, thx, maybe it is true sir.
[18:27] <theqqr_step> TJ-, ok, i will try type that command.
[18:27] <eeee> nusr: sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center
[18:29] <theqqr_step> TJ-, Size=26xxxx, Used=88xxx,Priority=-1,Type=file
[18:29] <nusr> thanks eeee
[18:29] <eeee> np
[18:29] <nusr> but error detec and now sending problem ifnormation to apport
[18:30] <theqqr_step> TJ-, but if i was delete some file in user folder, the speed of loading can fast.
[18:30] <eeee> nusr: what is the error you're getting, regarding python
[18:30] <TJ-> theqqr_step: You'd need to examine carefully the list of autostart-ing programs - some are required, some can be optional
[18:31] <nusr> Preparing to unpack .../software-center_13.10-0ubuntu4.1_all.deb ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/software-center.prerm: 6: /var/lib/dpkg/info/software-center.prerm: pyclean: not found dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit status 127 dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ... /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/prerm: 6: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/prerm: pyclean: not found dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archive
[18:31] <theqqr_step> TJ-, that you mean i uncheck some application in startup applications?
[18:31] <TJ-> theqqr_step: Yes
[18:32] <eeee> nusr: try to install, sudo apt-get install software-center
[18:32] <eeee> nusr: or remove it then install
[18:32] <does> !pastebin | nusr
[18:32] <bekks> eeee: The error indicates that he is actually doing that already.
[18:32] <bekks> nusr: you have to install pyclean, too.
[18:32] <theqqr_step> TJ-, ok sir, thx . i will to do it in the next session of login.
[18:33] <theqqr_step> TJ-, can we increase "usr.disk" file ? is it danger or not?
[18:34] <frib> when i close vlc it freezes for about 15 seconds before closing .. anyone know why?
[18:35] <TJ-> theqqr_step: The numbers you reported showed that only about 1/3rd of swap was in use, so increasing its size won't improve the situation
[18:35] <daftykins> TJ-: hi sir. just a heads up you're assisting an EOL 10.04 desktop install there
[18:36] <TJ-> daftykins: I'm also assisting a novice user in Indonesia that is trying to make the best out of a poor situation.
[18:36] <theqqr_step> TJ-, ok sir, thx ..
[18:36] <daftykins> fail to see the relevance of that statement but ok!
[18:36] <eeee> bekks: yeah, i thought software center was missing some files to do the deletion, that's why i suggested to install rather than reinstall
[18:37] <EiriksUbuntu> Ahh, now I can get into tightening up this 14.04, got to get all new packages, but at least now I can get the dvd stuff too
[18:37] <EiriksUbuntu> I think I might look into gnome again though
[18:47] <sudormrf> Does anyone in here have a suggestion for a program that will rip Japanese subtitles from a DVD ISO?  I have been searching the googles for quite a while and have come up empty handed.  I found plenty that works for English subtitles.  Japanese is proving to be problematic
[18:57] <habernir> hi there
[18:57] <habernir> can anyone help me and tell me what its mean
[18:58] <habernir> "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2"
[18:58] <habernir> it write me this message when i install spideroak
[19:11] <Timoty> Has knows if it is possible to add -finstrument-functions flags by default in compilations ? In .bashrc ?
[19:13] <dannixon> Timoty: alias command="command -finstrument-functions"
[19:14] <dannixon> Timoty: In .bashrc that is
[19:15] <Timoty> command = g++ or gcc then
[19:15] <dannixon> Timoty: Indeed
[19:15] <Timoty> okay got it thanks.
[19:19] <AaronEstrada> hola jose
[19:23] <AaronEstrada> hola creeperexplosivo
[19:24] <gooby> hbhjbhj
[19:25] <yanezdegomera> #napoli
[19:25] <yanezdegomera> hola
[19:26] <yanezdegomera> #ubuntu
[19:28] <internetaccess> hi
[19:28] <Timoty> <img src="apples.jpeg">
[19:29] <internetaccess> server returned:   (   )~ (  )~   (   )~
[19:38] <shibboleth> How do I attach quicklaunch icons/launchers to the top bar in GNOME3?
[19:38] <zergut> Good day
[19:39] <zergut> ive tried to replace some files with Nautilus and after it casuse Ubuntu error and  in the end  the files was just deleted
[19:39] <zergut> where i can find deleted files?
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> kernel downgrade needed here -- 14.04 trusty was unusable for me, as it made my laptop (Acer / Intel) heat up and shut down -- this forced me back to 12.04, ok, all well -- but now, the -34 and -35 kernels are trusty related and the heating issue returned, which makes my 12.04 virtually unusable -- i don't like ubuntu anymore -- how to downgrade to an old kernel version -- please don't give me a factoid
[19:44] <esseks> zergut, deleted or moved to Trash?
[19:44] <zergut> esseks: sorry, i just found it in another calatog
[19:45] <zergut> my bad
[19:45] <zergut> :)
[19:46] <Timoty> MonkeyDust did you use the 64bit version ?
[19:46] <ynon1> hi
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> Timoty  yes
[19:46] <Timoty> yeah... I had the same issue
[19:46] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, what's your laptop?
[19:46] <Timoty> use the 32bit version instead
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  Acer / Intel
[19:47] <Timoty> I have Compaq AMD
[19:47] <BluesKaj> odd MonkeyDust, I have a lenovo /intel ...no such troubles
[19:47] <Timoty> ntu :ned the same issue on a my laptop. Even though I have 64 bit computer
[19:48] <Timoty> I am currently using the 32 bit version and it's okaH
[19:48] <BluesKaj> and 64 bit of course
[19:48] <esseks> hi guys! (repost from yesterday) is the mini CD supposed to boot in UEFI mode?
[19:48] <letarch> как узнать драйвер на видео
[19:48] <letarch> ?
[19:48] <Timoty> ???
[19:48] <ynon1> hellow
[19:48] <BluesKaj> !ru | letarch
[19:49] <ynon1> help!
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Timoty  i'll try that, but will stay around now that my laptop isnt too hot yet
[19:49] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, Unity?
[19:50] <Timoty> ok MonkeyDust
[19:50] <BluesKaj> maybe a different DE will make a difference
[19:51] <jack> hello
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  Classic, no effects
[19:51] <jack> hows the shit
[19:52] <TJ-> esseks: which image are you referring to - can you give us a link to it?
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> brb
[19:53] <Guest32434> how is everyone
[19:54] <sexyboy> !offtopic
[19:56] <k1lleD> how to check which one video card i use for desktop, and if i start game wichone i use. i nvidia 750m + integrated intel HD graphics 4600
[19:59] <pumba> hi2u
[20:00] <rolleiflex> I have a .desktop file question
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> can someone please pm me my problem's desicription, that i wrote moments ago
[20:00] <rolleiflex> when I create two desktop files for the same application, one that launched the app in foreground and the other launches it minimised
[20:00] <rolleiflex> unity isn't smart enough to figure out they are the same application
[20:00] <TJ-> 20:44 <MonkeyDust> kernel downgrade needed here -- 14.04 trusty was unusable for me, as it made my laptop (Acer / Intel) heat up and shut down -- this forced me back to 12.04, ok, all well -- but now, the -34 and -35 kernels are trusty related and the heating issue returned, which makes my 12.04 virtually unusable -- i don't like ubuntu anymore -- how to downgrade to an old kernel version -- please don't give me a factoid
[20:01] <rolleiflex> the minimised version has command line flag, which makes ubuntu think it's a different application
[20:01] <rolleiflex> so if the user pins my application to the unity dock and restarts the system, what opens at startup isnt the pinned application but a new one with a question mark in the logo
[20:01] <rolleiflex> I'm really starting to hate this... :(
[20:02] <TJ-> MonkeyDrone: Have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/265999/how-to-remove-kernel-lts-enablement-stack
[20:02] <rolleiflex> is there a way to tell unity that "my/application/executable -flag" is the same application as "my/application/executable"?
[20:02] <rolleiflex> this is fairly dumb : (
[20:03] <Guest78078> Hello?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  yes, i guess it started with the hardware enablement (HWE) upgrade in august
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> reading now
[20:06] <TJ-> MonkeyDust have you reported a bug against the "linux" package about it?
[20:06] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: It sounds like a regression, and ought to get some attention
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  will do
[20:10] <rune_> hallo all
[20:10] <Guest83062> somebody have distribution elementary_
[20:12] <Guest83062> somebody can help me_
[20:13] <zeltin> egrep -c '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[20:13] <zeltin> gives me 2, what does that mean?
[20:14] <bekks> !elementaryos
[20:14] <Guest83062> how install flash on the distro elementary_
[20:14] <bekks> hmm. hmm.
[20:14] <bekks> Guest83062: Since ElementaryOS isnt an official derivate, you will have to ask the support community of that distro.
[20:15] <Kira9204> Guest83062: you should find it if you search for it in the app store
[20:15] <Guest83062> bekks I am newbie I always have win OS when I can find this
[20:15] <Kira9204> just like in ubuntu
[20:16] <bekks> Guest83062: And that feature isnt implemented in zfsonlinux. :)
[20:16] <Kira9204> pretty much any guide for ubuntu will work on any ubuntu derrative
[20:17] <Guest83062> Kira9204 I install chromium but I dont know which name is it app on the mint name pepper and on the elementary_
[20:17] <bekks> Guest83062: I am sorry, I mixed up channels. I never used ElementaryOS, so I cant tell you where to find its support community.
[20:17] <Ben64> Kira9204, Guest83062: elementary os is not on topic here. if you wish to discuss it further you can, but not in this channel
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> Kira9204  wrong channel
[20:18] <Guest83062> bekks ok which chanell
[20:18] <bazhang> !elementary
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> please guys, if i want to login in launchpad, i'm being sent to ubuntone, which is dead... i don't like ubuntu anymore
[20:19] <pngl> Is there a CLI tool for logging that I can pipe to which will rotate logs? For instance, "script.sh | logging-tool log_base_name 5" would 1) replace log_basename.log.1 with log_base_name.log, 2) do the same for for N<=5, and 3) write output of script.sh to log_base_name.log
[20:19] <Kira9204> that may be the case, but he is asking for a package name
[20:19] <Kira9204> wich should be the same regardless
[20:19] <Ben64> Kira9204: a package name for a different distro, so its not on topic here...
[20:19] <ynon1> hi guys
[20:19] <bazhang> Kira9204, packages.ubuntu.com he can search
[20:20] <ynon1> i need to get computer icon on my desktop
[20:20] <ynon1> how
[20:21] <ynon1> i used tweak but it wont work
[20:21] <ynon1> i have 14.04
[20:21] <ynon1> hi owwwe
[20:22] <basz> hio, i need some varnish advise. can someone lookat this gist https://gist.github.com/basz/707690745298268d4aef
[20:22] <basz> please
[20:22] <bekks> basz: what are we going to find there? :)
[20:23] <ynon1> well
[20:23] <basz> I have incomplete javascript files, behind a varnish cache.
[20:23] <basz> bekks some output of some tests
[20:23] <ynon1> update it through terminal
[20:23] <basz> I'm stumped... And have ignored the problem too long
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> if i want to login in launchpad to report a bug, i'm being sent to ubuntone, which is dead... how to report that the bug-reporting site doenst work?
[20:25] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu One Single Sign On is still used
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> Invalid OpenID transaction
[20:32] <TSRewind> #gameblender
[20:32] <TJ-> basz: Have you checked whether all the connections are served by Varnish, or whether some go through to the httpd?
[20:33] <basz> TJ- Nope.
[20:34] <basz> How would I check that?
[20:34] <TJ-> basz: check the httpd access log
[20:36] <basz> TJ- I see every load that siege does, immediatly show up in the apache log. regardless of the size is correct or not
[20:36] <basz> the X-Varnish: 1351234921 header does not have an age...
[20:37] <basz> so,... goes to apache
[20:38] <genoobie> hey running into a problem with wine and an install
[20:40] <bazhang> !appdb | genoobie
[20:40] <bazhang>  /join #winehq after checking the appdb genoobie
[20:42] <zeltin> After the installation, you need to relogin so that your user account becomes an effective member of kvm and libvirtd user groups. The members of this group can run virtual machines.
[20:42] <zeltin> How do i relogin?
[20:42] <zeltin> https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2012/03/12/how-to-start-intel-hardware-assisted-virtualization-hypervisor-on-linux-to-speed-up-intel-android-x86-gingerbread-emulator
[20:44] <rodrigo> omg irc still alive!
[20:44] <RobertJDohnert> Of course it is rodrigo
[20:44] <RobertJDohnert> Why would it be dead
[20:45] <zeltin> how do I relogin my user?
[20:45] <trijntje> what exactly does the du command report? I'm trying to write my own du-like program, but the numbers I get are always slightly off
[20:45] <rodrigo> In Brazil, i was just a lonely guy logged in irc channels
[20:45] <trijntje> zeltin: just restart the pc
[20:45] <zeltin> trijntje, seems a little overkill, there must be a simpler way
[20:46] <trijntje> zeltin: sure, click on the top right corner, select 'log out'
[20:47] <zeltin> trijntje, what will happen?
[20:47] <trijntje> it will log you out
[20:49] <asynechiea> Hello all. I've been gaming using a PS3 controller for about a year with no problems, but today when I went to pair it, myh bluetooth adaptor is not working. It shows that it is on on the top bar in Unity, but if I got to System Settings -> Bluetooth, it says it is off. If I use the pair command in the terminal I get this error: Can't read version info hci0: Connection timed out (110)
[20:50] <analogfreak> asynechiea: fresh batteries?
[20:50] <asynechiea> fresh batteries... for the bluetooth chip inside of my computer?
[20:50] <analogfreak> no, the controller.
[20:51] <asynechiea> the problem is that the bluetooth adaptor in the laptop won't start..
[20:51] <analogfreak> my bad
[20:52] <analogfreak> any driver updates recently done?
[20:52] <boldfilter1> Unity: reinventing the wheel since 2010
[20:52] <asynechiea> none to my knowledge.. unless something happened in a system update
[20:53] <analogfreak> i'm assuming you've done the old windows trick of rebooting 3 times?
[20:53] <RobertJDohnert> any thoughts on the new Unity, good bad or ugly?
[20:53] <asynechiea> I've rebooted one time ;)
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> if I wanted to report a bug in launchpad, but don't know what package is affected, or it may be several different, how to do it with ubuntu-bug? or any other way?
[20:54] <analogfreak> asynechiea: what make and model is the laptop?
[20:54] <asynechiea> System 76 Bonobo Extreme 7
[20:54] <RobertJDohnert> I work on the Black Lab Linux project, http://www.blacklablinux.org and we are thinking of doing a Unity release along with our XFCE release
[20:54] <isene> Got a new PC (Samsung NP900 laptop), installed a fresh 14.10. Got issues with system fonts for GTK applications - ugly fonts that doesn't handle Norwegian special characters (æøå) well (they are rendered boldish and somewhat larger than the other characters). Any pointers?
[20:54] <asynechiea> I could reach out to their suport, but they are closed on the weekend
[20:55] <asynechiea> plus their support is not so good
[20:55] <asynechiea> let me try rebooting once more, this time shuitting all the way down.
[20:56] <trism> MonkeyDust: for me, I would guess which package I thought it was, and start there, it can always be reassigned (rather than assigning one to ubuntu which often don't get much attention) If unsure you can always ask in the channel and somebody might have a thought
[20:59] <asynechiea> shutting down worked :) Thanks analogfreak ;)
[20:59] <analogfreak> great to hear
[21:04] <isene> How do I turn off anti-aliasing for every font in the graphical UI?
[21:06] <Sinistrad> I'm having problems with lightdm, or at least I think I am. This morning, when I tried to resume my session, the screen was black. I CTRL ALT F7 and got a message that it would send me to the unlock screen in a few seconds, but it didn't. I CTRL ALT F8, and got a login prompt. I had to go back to F7 to reach my desktop. Here is my lightdm.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8280317/
[21:09] <Resilience> hello to everyone
[21:09] <conundrum_> hey
[21:09] <apornstar> Hi
[21:09] <conundrum_> where are you from Resilience ?
[21:10] <Resilience> spain conundrum_
[21:10] <conundrum_> ui , germany
[21:10] <guite> Sinistrad: I had this one once :)
[21:10] <Resilience> conundrum_, almos besides, almost he ;D
[21:10] <Octopus_2000> test! :-)
[21:10] <guite> Sinistrad: just in case, check that you have an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[21:11] <conundrum_> almost
[21:11] <guite> a “correct” one
[21:11] <Octopus_2000> any solutions for de icon mail notification on xubuntu 12.04 with hotmail (ssl tsl)
[21:11] <Sinistrad> guite, Ahh, I'll have to take a look at it
[21:11] <apornstar> Has anyone heard of the compix issue thats causing cpu high usage in ubuntu 14.04?
[21:12] <guite> Sinistrad: you can check with a shell while using ctrl+alt+f<anything but 7>
[21:12] <apornstar> Compiz rather
[21:12] <Resilience> I'm using lightdm and the power-off/hibernate buttons they don't work, because I have uninstalled the polkit package (I'm using debian), but I want them to work (enlightenment can shutdown/reboot7etc from the dm without using polkit) is there any way I can achieve this? (I ask in this channel becasue ligtdm comes from canonical)
[21:13] <k1l> apornstar: try to see if its a known bug on launchpad.net  or make a bug report
[21:13] <trijntje> why does du sometimes report files as bigger then they actually are?
[21:13] <Octopus_2000> Any solutions for de icon mail notification on xubuntu 12.04 with hotmail (ssl tsl)?
[21:14] <apornstar> Hi does anyone know of a compiz issue with 14.04?
[21:15] <geirha> trijntje: disk usage (du) and file size are not the same thing
[21:15] <trism> apornstar: bug 1268146 and bug 1293384 look relevant
[21:15] <guite> Sinistrad: I have to leave now, but what you could try is generating an xorg file with "X -configure". If this step works, then you should be able to restart lightdm once again and it should work this time
[21:16] <geirha> trijntje: It mainly depends on the inode size, which is 4K by default. That means that a file of 5 bytes must occupy at least 4KiB of the disk
[21:16] <Sinistrad> guite, Thanks!
[21:16] <guite> Sinistrad: if not, it might be a problem with your nvidia… if so, I experienced similar problems and I’m not sure about the solution.
[21:16] <guite> Sinistrad: (if you have an nvidia)
[21:17] <Sinistrad> guite, I have nvidia, with the drivers
[21:17] <trijntje> geirha: that makes sense, thanks. Though for small files du reports 0 since it rounds to 1024 bytes
[21:18] <guite> Sinistrad: and so try to remove all dkms for nvidia => “dkms remove nvidia-<version>”, “aptitude purge nvidia-<version>” and “aptitude install nvidia-<version”>
[21:18] <guite> (sorry I use aptitude, but you will probably use apt-get)
[21:19] <isene> How do I turn off anti-aliasing for every font in the graphical UI?
[21:19] <guite> Sinistrad: if this doesn’t work, then this bug is my worst enemy and I will not be able to help you anymore
[21:19] <guite> I have to go, bye :)
[21:20] <geirha> trijntje: depends on the filesystem. If it's on ext4, du should only report 0 if the size is 0. (or if it's a sparse file with no written bytes)
[21:20] <faryshta> hi, does anyone know a way so that if i try to access *.faryshta.local it sends me to localhost?
[21:21] <apornstar> How can I get a copy of /usr/bin/compiz from a 12.04 installation as I don't have one at hand?
[21:27] <apornstar> Sorry I got cut off earlier, can some let me know how I can get a /usr/bin/compiz from a 12.04 installation?
[21:28] <zeltin> Can I make the shell not show the whole path to where it is? it is annoying when you have long paths...
[21:28] <Flannel> apornstar: If you go to packages.ubuntu.com, you can download the deb and extract the file.
[21:29] <apornstar> Ok thanks I'll try that.
[21:30] <samthewildone> Yes I am a bit lazy but, what is the command to resize and rename images via mogrify ? I know the -resize but, what about changing the name ?
[21:32] <SK1N_H34D> hello,.. i'm newbie on GNU
[21:32] <SK1N_H34D> hello,.. all member
[21:33] <trijntje> samthewildone: just use mv to rename stuf
[21:33] <tozen> SK1N_H34D: wassap buddy?
[21:33] <samthewildone> I've got more than 10 files
[21:33] <samthewildone> I want to rename to "wall_1 wall_2.... etc"
[21:34] <tozen> samthewildone: and?
[21:37] <SK1N_H34D> tozen : where you from ??
[21:37] <tozen> uk
[21:38] <SK1N_H34D> tozen : how old ?
[21:38] <SK1N_H34D> may be you a student ??
[21:38] <ivan_msp> hello guys
[21:38] <SK1N_H34D> too..
[21:38] <ivan_msp> is there somebody who is aware of eclipse
[21:38] <k1l> SK1N_H34D: this channel is for technical ubuntu support. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[21:38] <eeee> samthewildone: man rename
[21:39] <byonic> Hey! I've created a bootable usb with ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS on it. When I go to reboot my computer the ubuntu loading screen pops up and shortly after tells me it is unable to mount  "/", then presents me with a terminal asking for a login
[21:39] <eeee> byonic: did you checksum the iso? is secureboot enabled?
[21:40] <tozen> SK1N_H34D: want to speak send me privat, pal
[21:40] <SK1N_H34D> try with restart or reboot !!
[21:40] <eeee> byonic: wait a sec, are you talking about an installation on a usb? or a live usb?
[21:45] <byonic_> DC’d, not sure what went through.
[21:46] <SK1N_H34D> any know kloxo ??
[21:46] <SK1N_H34D> i want install on ubuntu server 14.04.. ??
[21:46] <SK1N_H34D> what it can install on ubuntu ?
[21:47] <samthewildone> does ubuntu have a wallpaper changer ?
[21:47] <samthewildone> ex: every 5 minutes change wall ?
[21:48] <byonic> Where would I find the checksum for 14.04.1?
[21:48] <rww> !hashes
[21:49] <rww> oh, 14.04.1 isn't on there. joy.
[21:49] <rww> byonic: http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS
[21:50] <k1l> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS
[21:50] <byonic> Thanks
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> samthewildone  wallch
[21:50] <rww> ubottu: bug 1349715
[21:52] <samthewildone> pretty heavy program for something so simple as wall changing.
[21:53] <BaLLoN> scusate sono nuovo non sto capendo niente
[21:53] <k1l> !it | BaLLoN
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> !it
[21:53] <BaLLoN> ok grazie
[21:59] <tiblock> Hi. Is there soure codes for Unity DE? Or its not opensource?
[22:00] <trism> tiblock: https://code.launchpad.net/unity
[22:00] <tiblock> trism, thank you
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> tiblock  try this first, see what it says: sudo apt-get source unity --simulate
[22:02] <tiblock> MonkeyDust, found it here https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/files
[22:04] <Guest65873> ciao
[22:04] <samthewildone> dammit
[22:06] <m1dnight_> hey guys, i'm having some issues on my linux server. When I do ll or tab completion (last time was tab complete on ssh (for the service)) it takes ages
[22:06] <m1dnight_> (when it was freezing i created a new session in putty and that too, hanged
[22:07] <m1dnight_> how can i debug such a thing?
[22:08] <Loshki> m1dnight_: can you get to the server console?
[22:08] <m1dnight_> it's a VM, sure
[22:08] <SK1N_H34D> truee..
[22:08] <m1dnight_> I can't reproduce it though. It's like something is going to sleep but then it wakes up and it works.
[22:08] <kermit> i just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and rebooted, but its still running kernel 3.2, why?
[22:09] <k1l_> kermit: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[22:09] <m1dnight_> oh, I see a lot of strange stuff here now, Loshki
[22:09] <Loshki> m1dnight_: you need some kind of logging on the server? Please define "strange"?
[22:09] <m1dnight_> exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr action 0x6 frozen
[22:09] <k1l_> m1dnight_: see dmesg and syslog if there is some hints whats going on
[22:09] <beid7712> http://sx69sx.com/
[22:10] <samthewildone> So I'm using gnome session flashback but, the "alt + tab" key does not work. Is there a way I can enable it to switch between applications ?
[22:10] <m1dnight_> let me screenshot it, because I can't copy paste, okay?
[22:10] <samthewildone> This is a feature I use heavily.
[22:10] <Timoty> ubuntu web irc is down
[22:10] <kermit> k1l_: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[22:10] <johnca> test
[22:10] <SK1N_H34D> test
[22:11] <rww> Timoty: what do you mean by "Ubuntu web irc"?
[22:11] <k1l_> SK1N_H34D: please stop that. keep this channel clear for real ubuntu support
[22:11] <Timoty> http://webchat.freenode.net/
[22:11] <Timoty> okay it's okay
[22:11] <Timoty> sorry
[22:11] <k1l_> kermit: is the linux-image-generic package installed?
[22:11] <rww> ah. for future reference, that's a freenode service, not an Ubuntu one ;)
[22:12] <johnca> Timoty: I might be able to help, what would you like to get working?
[22:12] <Timoty> no it's okay John
[22:12] <samthewildone> never mind I got it
[22:12] <Loshki> m1dnight_: meanwhile, I see google hits for " Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr action 0x6 frozen" and they're not pretty...
[22:12] <m1dnight_> http://i.imgur.com/XQMBVJs.png <- this is what I see in the terminal of the VM without a login.
[22:12] <Timoty> It's working now. It's like the server was down
[22:12] <m1dnight_> i'll check dmesg now
[22:13] <m1dnight_> aaand here we go again :p
[22:13] <m1dnight_> it's freezing when I create a session in tmux
[22:13] <m1dnight_> ill check it out, thnx Loshki
[22:13] <johnca> exit
[22:13] <johnca> exit
[22:13] <rww> tl;dr: hard drive failure imminent
[22:13] <eeee> i'm trying to kill a process, rhythmbox , pkill rhythm, kill -9 <pid> nothing is working
[22:14] <johnca> eeee: do ps -ef|grep rhyth
[22:14] <Loshki> m1dnight_: in principle, it's a message about slow responding disks. What that actually means on a vm running lord knows where physically, is less clear...
[22:14] <johnca> eeee: don't forget to sudo
[22:15] <johnca> hahahaa eeee just quit, must have killed the wrong process
[22:15] <johnca> eeee what happened :)
[22:15] <eeee> johnca: i see it there, kill -9 <pid> isn't working
[22:15] <eeee> johnca: i tried to kill the pid next to it's pid
[22:15] <johnca> sudo?
[22:15] <Loshki> m1dnight_: what rww said...
[22:15] <eeee> lol :)
[22:15] <johnca> eeee
[22:16] <mekhami> can someone help me with setting up my dual boot laptop
[22:16] <mekhami> it keeps failing and i can't figure out why
[22:16] <eeee> johnca: nope, still there
[22:16] <eeee> mekhami: failing how?
[22:16] <johnca> do 'which rhythmbox'
[22:16] <mekhami> well let me walk you through my steps
[22:16] <mekhami> i'm booting it from my usb
[22:17] <eeee> johnca: /usr/bin/rhythmbox
[22:17] <mekhami> i select install ubuntu from the menu
[22:17] <mekhami> i walk through the steps selecting 'erase disk contents and install ubuntu'
[22:17] <mekhami> then it installs, prompts me to restart which i do
[22:17] <eeee> mekhami: 1 sec, why are you installing ubuntu first?
[22:17] <mekhami> why not?
[22:17] <eeee> mekhami: ok, continue
[22:17] <eeee> windows will eat grub again
[22:18] <mekhami> that seems to be the problem
[22:18] <mekhami> because
[22:18] <rww> mekhami: because ubuntu handles an existing Windows setup a lot better than Windows handles an existing Ubuntu setup
[22:18] <mekhami> when i reboot the hard drive doesn't read
[22:18] <mekhami> it had (has?) windows 8 on it
[22:18] <ubuntu_newbie> gud am everybody, cud u help me out on how to download movies just like IDM in windows? tnx a lot
[22:18] <mekhami> but i probably fucked something up somewhere
[22:18] <m1dnight_> http://pastebin.com/cSNHdMxh <-- dmesg says the same thing :) I'll go figure it out. I have a week to do so :p
[22:18] <johnca> eeee: do sudo lsof /usr/bin/rhythmbox
[22:18] <mekhami> so now all i want to do is reformat the entire hard drive and boot ubuntu
[22:19] <mekhami> well, dual boot ubuntu and windows 7 which i have a disc for
[22:19] <eeee> COMMAND     PID USER  FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME
[22:19] <eeee> rhythmbox 25624    e txt    REG    8,5    10496 918274 /usr/bin/rhythmbox
[22:19] <johnca> if that doesnt work eeee, try restarting your desktop manager
[22:20] <johnca> (gdm, lightdm, etc0
[22:20] <eeee> mekhami: did you switch to legacy?
[22:22] <mekhami> boot setting?
[22:22] <eeee> yeah, windows 8 is uefi
[22:22] <eeee> and uses a efi partition
[22:22] <eeee> johnca: ok
[22:22] <mekhami> btw the error is Reboot and select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot Device and press a key
[22:23] <mekhami> so yeah
[22:23] <mekhami> okay i'll switch it to csm
[22:23] <SK1N_H34D> hmm... grub rescue
[22:23] <mekhami> i get the same error
[22:23] <mekhami> after switching to CSM
[22:24] <eeee> johnca: nevermind, it's a bug
[22:25] <mekhami> so what do i need to do to fix this
[22:25] <m1dnight_> does it make sense to check my smart data in a VM?
[22:25] <m1dnight_> I don't think it does :p
[22:26] <eeee> mekhami: are you installing ubuntu in uefi mode? if so, you'll need an efi partition
[22:26] <SK1N_H34D> but, that is can entry on shell ??
[22:26] <eeee> mekhami: or install win7 and ubuntu both in legacy mode
[22:26] <mekhami> okay eeee let's say i'm installing ubuntu in csm mode now
[22:26] <mekhami> can you help me set up the partitions cause i don't know really anything about file systems
[22:26] <SK1N_H34D> mekhami : you can change configure in bios
[22:26] <SK1N_H34D> uefi > efi
[22:27] <pfsense_rookie> mekhami, read ubuntu manual pls.
[22:27] <mekhami> pfsense_rookie, go fuck yourself pls
[22:27] <SK1N_H34D> you can search on google..
[22:27] <SK1N_H34D> how to change system uefi to efi..
[22:27] <k1l_> mekhami: no need for insulting and swearing in here, thanks
[22:28] <eeee> mekhami: legacy mode with gpt i seem to recall needs a 1MB bios partition to work
[22:28] <Timoty> <img src="apples.jpeg">
[22:28] <k1l_> !partitioning
[22:28] <Timoty> error message
[22:28] <k1l_> mekhami: see this ^. and ask specific questions in here if something is still unclear
[22:28] <Loshki> m1dnight_: not in the vm, but somewhere there's an actual disk underneath it all (it can't be turtles *all* the way down). That disk is the one you need to check...
[22:29] <m1dnight_> Loshki: I think I've had a facepalm moment
[22:29] <Loshki> m1dnight_: from something I said?
[22:29] <m1dnight_> The VM is running on an external HDD connected to my server. Something tells me that disk is psinning down.
[22:30] <Loshki> m1dnight_: if you're lucky, all you're seeing is pauses while it spins up to speed. If not, you have a bad drive...
[22:30] <m1dnight_> I know that's *bad*, but I was planning on buying 2 disks that fit all my data to put in the server. Now i have too many..
[22:30] <m1dnight_> The smart data for the drive is not that bad, but not good either.
[22:30] <m1dnight_> A lot of reallocated seector count
[22:32] <Loshki> m1dnight_: those backups you always meant to do, do them now...
[22:32] <m1dnight_> Loshki: I have set up those last week :) 1 offsite, 1 on a dedicated disk (both encrypted)
[22:33] <Loshki> m1dnight_: fine, time to replace that disk, it's now good only for scratch space...
[22:33] <m1dnight_> Indeed. I've had it for a while now. Time to replace all my disks by 2 new ones. 5TB is "not so expensive"
[22:36] <Loshki> m1dnight_: don't get me started: note that the larger the drive the more they seem to have quality issues...
[22:37] <m1dnight_> Note: This is a permanent feature of most of our external hard drives and cannot be disabled. WD externals that include WD SmartWare 1.6.X can use the software to change and/or disable this feature.
[22:37] <m1dnight_> well, that is <jeremy clarkson voice>stupid</jeremy clarkson voice>
[22:38] <m1dnight_> Loshki: Do you have any URL for that?
[22:39] <m1dnight_> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/category/storage-pod/ <-- This is all I have tbh
[22:39] <m1dnight_> about halfway the article they show stats about their drives. (didnt find any permalink)
[22:39] <samthewildone> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLbSp1_CQk8
[22:43] <ubuntu_newbie> how to download movies here in ubuntu just like IDM in windows? tnx guys
[22:46] <squinty> ubuntu_newbie,   minitube for standalone app or web browers addons like Video Downloadhelper in Firefox (maybe Chrome/Chromium too)
[22:47] <byonic> Hey guys! I’m trying to install ubuntu, but everything seems to lock up when I open any sort of window. I’m not sure where to begin troubleshooting :/
[22:49] <Bashing-om> byonic: unclear, is the stall in the install process, or do you have ubuntu installed and non-functional ?
[22:50] <byonic> Bashing-om: its in the install process
[22:50] <ubuntu_newbie> tnx squinty ill try that first
[22:51] <Bashing-om> byonic: how far did you get ? Where in the parocess is the stall ? ( graphics releated ?) ..
[22:52] <Valarkin_> is there any feeling so glorious as finally beating a problem that has stymied you for a fortnight?
[22:53] <neldogz> Does anyone have a recommendation on best way to image a hard disk to save it as a backup?
[22:53] <Bashing-om> Valarkin_: Makes one feel good all over, not even 'dove' can come close !
[22:53] <Valarkin_> I'm floating :D
[22:53] <ObrienDave> neldogz, clonezilla will give you an exact image
[22:53] <eeee> neldogz: i think you have to dd the zero's to a file, delete it, then dd it
[22:54] <byonic> Bashing-om: It’s right after the first dialog window after selecting to download and install updates and choosing to install proprietary software
[22:54] <Bashing-om> byonic: Not good, know good 'wired' internet connection ?
[22:55] <neldogz> dd seems to be difficult for me to use
[22:55] <neldogz> ObrienDave, thanks I will give CloneZilla a try :)
[22:56] <ObrienDave> neldogz, it works best if you install clonezilla live to a USB stick
[22:56] <neldogz> ObrienDave, thanks, that is exactly what I will do
[22:56] <mekhami> any idea why gparted is not letting me resize my partition? it says min size and max size are the same?
[22:57] <squinty> byonic,  might want to try doing the main install first (without checking the "download updates while installing") first and then doing the updates after the main installation/reboot has finished.
[22:58] <byonic> Bashing-om: I’m on a wired connection. But I think its a different issue, I’m able to browse the internet. I get another stall opening the software center.
[22:58] <byonic> squinty: I’ll try that
[22:58] <jiohdi> anyone know if anyone ever fixed wubi so that it does not take our your whole system after the first update?
[22:59] <ObrienDave> wubi needs to die a slow, painful death
[22:59] <jiohdi> if no one has fixed it, I agree
[22:59] <Bashing-om> jiohdi: IF uefi WUBI no workie anyway .. and also WUBI is no longer supported . Good luck,
[23:00] <jiohdi> I just bought a win7 machine it should not have uefi
[23:00] <squinty> mekhami,  running gparted from the live usb/dvd?  if no, might want to try that.
[23:01] <Bashing-om> jiohdi: Most Win7 are not UEFI, some are - later ones may have UEFI .
[23:01] <jiohdi> this is a refurbished one
[23:01] <jiohdi> I am hoping
[23:01] <jiohdi> no uefu
[23:02] <k1l_> jiohdi: step away from wubi. make a real install
[23:02] <jiohdi> I worry that a real install will void the warrentee I have heard stories
[23:02] <Bashing-om> jiohdi: You can find out by typing "bcdedit" in a Windows Administrator Command Prompt window.
[23:03] <k1l_> jiohdi: that is just FUD
[23:05] <jiohdi> FUD. Scottish slang term meaning pussy, vagina, muff,
[23:06] <k1l_> jiohdi: no, i was referring to that common term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
[23:07] <esseks_> jiohdi, some producers used to void the warranty when OS was reinstalled/changed, but nobody does that anymore. It's actually impossible and unreasonable to enforce that policy. Really, serious OEMs like Lenovo will let you keep the HDD while they fix the PC.
[23:08] <jiohdi> well if I bork the system I am planning full tilt ubuntu anyways
[23:13] <netlar> SillyCat
[23:14] <netlar> opps entered my password, sorry, don't anyone look ok
[23:15] <Raydiation> how gnome is ubuntu gnome? is it close to fedora/arch?
[23:15] <Raydiation> does it still ship with all the weird logind fix stuff?
[23:15] <rww> it uses GNOME as its desktop environment, just like Fedora.
[23:15] <k1l_> Raydiation: it tries to be near the vanilla gnome
[23:15] <rww> Raydiation: it uses systemd-shim, because Ubuntu doesn't use systemd yet.
[23:15] <Raydiation> ah ok, thats what i wanted to know thanks :)
[23:16] <Raydiation> when is that supposed to be dropped?
[23:16] <Raydiation> 14.10?
[23:16] <rww> before 16.04
[23:16] <rww> not 14.10
[23:16] <rww> might be 15.04 or 15.10, i dunno
[23:16] <Raydiation> i see, thanks
[23:16] <k1l_> there is a lot of work to be done to shift to systemd. that will take some more time
[23:17] <Raydiation> should pretty much work out of the box if they use debians efforts
[23:17] <k1l_> Raydiation: well, debian needs some time, too
[23:17] <rww> Debian works with systemd just fine.
[23:18] <rww> Raydiation: Debian's going from sysvinit to systemd, which is relatively easy because systemd can interpret sysvinit scripts.
[23:18] <rww> Raydiation: Ubuntu is going from upstart to systemd.
[23:18] <rww> so all the custom hackery in various upstart scripts needs to be redone. hence, time.
[23:19] <Raydiation> ah right
[23:19] <Raydiation> anything new about the MIR stuff?
[23:20] <rww> not really. there's an ubuntu-next daily ISO that includes it, if you want to play with it
[23:20] <rww> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/ (heavily unstable, stick to USB boot and don't actually install it, etc)
[23:20] <k1l_> the main focus for MIR is phone/tablet so far.
[23:21] <rww> yep. especially with the RTM date for Ubuntu Phone coming up
[23:21] <k1l_> yes. i think afterwards they will inlcude the focus to the desktop
[23:22] <Raydiation> rww: isnt the daily build the next beta?
[23:22] <rww> Raydiation: no, you're thinking of http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[23:22] <rww> ubuntu-desktop-next is the codename they're using for the Mir preview spins
[23:23] <Raydiation> ty
[23:23] <ubuntu-studio> may i ask you some question?
[23:23] <zeltin> can there be an uneven amount of pixels in one direction?
[23:24] <Raydiation> zeltin: yes
[23:24] <ubuntu-studio> when i install my studio, it occur error 5
[23:24] <ubuntu-studio> and my installation crashed
[23:24] <ubuntu-studio> thanks
[23:24] <Raydiation> zeltin: 1377x780px for instance
[23:26] <m1dnight_> ubuntu phone is coming soon? \o/
[23:26] <m1dnight_> JAY
[23:27] <ubuntu-studio> and my studio version is 14.04.1 lts
[23:27] <cos[x]> please have better commercials than amazon has for its fire phone
[23:27] <Raydiation> ubuntu-studio: your question is not very helpful
[23:28] <rww> cos[x]: that's up to the individual OEMs preparing phones with Ubuntu on them :)
[23:28] <ubuntu-studio> yeah
[23:28] <rww> Canonical itself isn't in the phone hardware business.
[23:28] <k1l_> ubuntu-studio: was it a cd/dvd or usb-drive? did you check the md5 checksum?
[23:29] <ubuntu-studio> usb-driver
[23:30] <k1l_> ubuntu-studio: see if that helps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65830/errno-5-input-output-error-when-trying-to-install
[23:30] <ubuntu-studio> thanks
[23:31] <ubuntu-studio> i will have a try
[23:34] <LegalAction> Hi hi hi all
[23:34] <netlar> Will I need to do a fresh install for 16.04 from 14.04 because of Mir?
[23:34] <k1l_> netlar: no.
[23:35] <k1l_> netlar: and i bet the "old" xserver will be available for some time even after this
[23:35] <netlar> k1l_: Oh so Mir will just be added
[23:36] <sexyboy> /22/8
[23:36] <sexyboy> whoops
[23:36] <netlar> k1l_: So some applications will still need xorg?
[23:37] <k1l_> netlar: for legacy reasons yes. but just dont be to afraid of that change
[23:38] <netlar> k1l_: I am using the open source video driver, that will be supported under Mir right?
[23:39] <k1l_> netlar: the xorg drivers like we have now will change with the new wayland/mir anyway
[23:40] <netlar> k1l_: I am not worried, really, I absolutely love Ubuntu, it is a great OS
[23:41] <netlar> k1l_: Just AMD irritates me is all, their video driver is crap, but the open source driver works perfectly, so screw them
[23:41] <rww> using "crap" to describe fglrx is an insult to poop everywhere
[23:41]  * rww sticks to the open source one too
[23:42] <netlar> rww: Sorry no insult indented to poop
[23:43] <netlar> rww: Is the development on the Gallium driver pretty active?
[23:43] <rww> netlar: I haven't been paying attention recently, but development on radeon in general seems to be nice and active these days.
[23:44] <netlar> rww: I only have one video issue, and that is with Google Chrome
[23:44] <netlar> rww: Has some screen tearing when I resize the window, just a small annoyance
[23:45] <ubuntu> hello
[23:46] <Guest20905> On LiveCD trying to get back into my Luks crypt /home folder
[23:47] <Guest20905> I get as far as cryptsetup   but i get a "No key available with this passphrase."
[23:48] <Guest20905>  sudo cryptsetup -v luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda_crypt
[23:48] <Guest20905> No key available with this passphrase.
[23:49] <Guest20905> Is there anyone even on here ?
[23:50] <ReadySetWait> Guest20905: I'm here :)
[23:50] <k1l_> there are, but maybe they are just not familiar with encryption
[23:53] <eeee> Guest20905: are you following a guide?
[23:55] <john__> I want to pull out a one minute clip from a movie I have on my hard disk drive. It's x.264; What is simple/reasonable software that I can download to do this task (in the opinion of whomever chooses to answer)?
[23:55] <eeee> john__: openshot is nice
[23:55] <DaZ> i'd use ffmpeg :v
[23:56] <john__> I want a gui, with clicking/dragging
[23:57] <john__> although I won't be surprised if openshot uses ffmpeg underneath, since nearly everyone else does too
[23:58] <Faerie> had a little question about intel optimus support in 14.10, someone knows about it ?
[23:59] <blackangelpr> Faerie, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_prime_ubuntu1404&num=1
[23:59] <mJayk> Faerie, im using it now