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| jdstrand | hi! | 16:53 |
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| chrisccoulson | hi | 16:53 |
| mdeslaur | hello! | 16:53 |
| jjohansen | \o | 16:53 |
| tyhicks | hello | 16:53 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 16:54 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Sep 8 16:54:46 2014 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:54 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:54 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| jdstrand | I'll go first | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | I'm on triage this week | 16:55 |
| jdstrand | I'm working on landing apparmor in silo 014 today in utopic, then moving on to landing it in the rtm branch | 16:55 |
| jdstrand | after that I will work to do whatever is needed to get the kernel tested and up | 16:56 |
| jdstrand | I will be patch piloting this week too | 16:56 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:56 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on community this week | 16:56 |
| mdeslaur | I just published a couple of USNs | 16:56 |
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| mdeslaur | and am finishing some extra testing of the qemu and qemu-kvm packages that have been in -proposed for the past few weeks | 16:56 |
| mdeslaur | I'll be publishing them this afternoon | 16:57 |
| mdeslaur | Then I'm going to work on a long lost nss CVE | 16:57 |
| mdeslaur | and have an embargoed issue to look at | 16:57 |
| mdeslaur | and will go down the list after that | 16:57 |
| mdeslaur | that's it from me, sbeattie, you're up | 16:57 |
| sbeattie | I'm focusing on apparmor again this week. | 16:57 |
| sbeattie | I'll be doing whatever's needed to land the current bits that jamie has siloed for utopic and RTM, then moving on to fix whatever bugs we still need to address beyond that. | 16:58 |
| sbeattie | that's pretty much it for me. | 16:58 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: ? | 16:59 |
| tyhicks | I'm helping with the apparmor landings | 16:59 |
| tyhicks | I'm going through the remaining socketpair.sh and unix_socket.sh regression test failures and triaging them all | 16:59 |
| tyhicks | I need to finish testing a parser fix (that also affects the man page and unix_socket.sh regression tests) and send that out | 17:00 |
| tyhicks | I'm also addressing the feedback from sarnold (thanks!) on my unix_socket.sh changes so that I can get them committed to trunk | 17:01 |
| tyhicks | then I'll be fixing bugs, as needed | 17:01 |
| tyhicks | if I can break away for a bit, I need to respond to the upstream feedback that I received from the v3 dbus-daemon patches | 17:01 |
| tyhicks | and there's pending ecryptfs maint work for me | 17:01 |
| tyhicks | (not likely to get to that) | 17:02 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 17:02 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 17:02 |
| jjohansen | I'm focusing on apparmor this week as well, specifically I have some kernel refcount/locking bugs to fix | 17:02 |
| jjohansen | once those are done, what ever misc bugs pop up during testing/verification | 17:03 |
| jjohansen | thats it for me sarnold you are up | 17:04 |
| sarnold | I'm in the happy place this week | 17:05 |
| sarnold | but I've got a package to release from a user carried-over to this week (mariadb-5.5) and two supported packages to release this week (file, php5) | 17:06 |
| sarnold | due to kvm hilarity I'm using canonistack for testing, hopefully al three will be out the door today | 17:07 |
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| mdeslaur | sarnold: what the status of django? | 17:08 |
| sarnold | I intend to do some more apparmor patch reviews, I believe there are several left over from last week unreviewed still | 17:08 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: not yet started | 17:08 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: I had intended to prioritize apparmor patch reviews; would you rather I work on django update instead? | 17:09 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: no, please do the apparmor first | 17:09 |
| mdeslaur | I'll try and do django this week | 17:09 |
| mdeslaur | so don't start it | 17:09 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: okay, thanks | 17:10 |
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| sarnold | if there's time left over, I'll return to an old, complicated, MIR request | 17:10 |
| sarnold | I think that's me covered, chrisccoulson? | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | I've got a couple of updates to do this week - one of those is Thunderbird from last week, but I'm waiting for the 31.1.1 build because it fixes an autocomplete regression | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | I shall also be looking at bug 1260016 | 17:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1260016 in oxide-qt (Ubuntu) "Add an API to allow defining custom URL scheme delegates" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260016 | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | in addition to the usual stuff | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | that's me done :) | 17:11 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: can I mark that bug in progress? (so people know) | 17:15 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, sure | 17:15 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 17:16 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gromacs.html | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/djbdns.html | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/a2ps.html | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/isync.html | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xnbd.html | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 17:17 |
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| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 17:17 |
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| * xnox o/ | 19:01 | |
| dannf | o/ | 19:02 |
| * bdmurray is here | 19:03 | |
| caribou | o/ | 19:04 |
| xnox | !dmb-ping | 19:07 |
| ubottu | bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping | 19:07 |
| * stgraber waves | 19:08 | |
| stgraber | so I believe Laney is on vacation this week. | 19:09 |
| xnox | stgraber: yeap, I've just texted him and he is flying in two hours. | 19:10 |
| stgraber | we need a 4th member to have quorum, let's hope ScottK or Micah will show up then... | 19:10 |
| stgraber | otherwise I'd recommend we just bring both applicants to e-mail application, it's been what 2-3 meetings where we fail to get quorum now? | 19:10 |
| xnox | or we could start the meeting and/or collect votes when they show/email. | 19:11 |
| stgraber | sure, that works for me | 19:11 |
| stgraber | should make the e-mail application process much quicker | 19:11 |
| xnox | bdmurray: stgraber: xnox - who wants to chair? | 19:11 |
| xnox | =) | 19:11 |
| bdmurray | xnox: you seem to have the plan ;-) | 19:12 |
| xnox | hehe. | 19:12 |
| xnox | #startmeeting DMB Meeting | 19:12 |
| meetingology | xnox: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. | 19:12 |
| xnox | #endmeeting | 19:12 |
| stgraber | #endmeeting | 19:12 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Sep 8 19:12:37 2014 UTC. | 19:12 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-09-08-16.54.moin.txt | 19:12 |
| stgraber | xnox: try now | 19:12 |
| xnox | \o/ | 19:12 |
| xnox | I guess jdstrand forgot to finish theirs. | 19:12 |
| xnox | #startmeeting DMB Meeting | 19:12 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Sep 8 19:13:01 2014 UTC. The chair is xnox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:12 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 19:12 |
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| jdstrand | oh I did | 19:13 |
| jdstrand | sorry! | 19:13 |
| xnox | jdstrand: welcome to DMB meeting =) wanna chair?! =) | 19:13 |
| jdstrand | heh | 19:13 |
| xnox | i'm not sure if we have any actions from past meetings. | 19:13 |
| xnox | So i think we can just continue through to applications | 19:13 |
| stgraber | those usually end up with me and I'm not aware of anything I forgot to do :) | 19:14 |
| xnox | #topic - PPU application Louis Bouchard | 19:14 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: - PPU application Louis Bouchard | ||
| caribou | Hello everyone | 19:14 |
| xnox | caribou: hola! Welcome to DMB meeting. Could you please say hi and a few words about yourself and your application today? | 19:14 |
| caribou | Sure, my name is Louis Bouchard, | 19:15 |
| caribou | I have been involved with the ubuntu project directly for a bit more than 3 years | 19:15 |
| caribou | I have been a contributing developer for over a year now. I am was doing sponsored maintenance of makedumpfile on Debian for over 2 years | 19:16 |
| caribou | and I am now the official Debian Maintainer. I'm doing my best to keep the delta b/w Debian & Ubuntu to Null | 19:16 |
| caribou | I've also been involved on sosreport for more than a year and am part of the upstream development team | 19:17 |
| caribou | I am applying today for upload rights on those two packages : sosreport & makedumpfile | 19:17 |
| caribou | the intent being to be involved on both Debian & Ubuntu activities and to keep the gap as small as possible between both | 19:18 |
| stgraber | caribou: are you a DM for both package or just makedumpfile? | 19:19 |
| xnox | and as per https://ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt you do have DM rights to upload those two packages in Debian already. ( | 19:19 |
| stgraber | that answers my question :) | 19:19 |
| xnox | i granted sosreport DM rights to caribou in Debian. | 19:19 |
| xnox | ) | 19:19 |
| stgraber | caribou: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 19:19 |
| caribou | Currently just for makedumpfile as sosreport has no official DM. I'm working with Adam Stokes to fix that up | 19:19 |
| caribou | stgraber: I thought I was, then recently discovered that I was no longer; just ubuntu-devel. | 19:20 |
| xnox | caribou: .... there are no email notifications, but you have been granted upload rights for sosreport. | 19:20 |
| stgraber | ok, please make sure you subscribe to ubuntu-devel-announce | 19:20 |
| stgraber | caribou: are any of those packages seeded? | 19:21 |
| caribou | stgraber: sosreport is seeded on the ubuntu-server image | 19:21 |
| caribou | stgraber: done | 19:22 |
| stgraber | good :) | 19:22 |
| stgraber | caribou: why do we carry a delta on sosreport? | 19:22 |
| caribou | stgraber: right now, upstream is at 3.2-alpha and Utopic is at 3.1.1 plus a few patches which are backport of 3.2-alpha | 19:23 |
| caribou | stgraber: the delta is mainly to make some of the data collection submitted upstream available to Ubuntu faster, especially for the technical support people using sosreport | 19:24 |
| caribou | stgraber: which rely on this tool daily | 19:24 |
| caribou | stgraber: many of those upstream fixes are coming from them | 19:24 |
| stgraber | cool | 19:25 |
| stgraber | xnox: no further question, ready to vote | 19:25 |
| caribou | stgraber: FYI, turns out that I *am* subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce :-) | 19:25 |
| xnox | bdmurray: any more questions from you? | 19:25 |
| xnox | caribou: yeah, please stop sorting that to /dev/null then ;-) *giggle* | 19:26 |
| caribou | xnox: will do :) | 19:26 |
| stgraber | did we losoe Brian? :) | 19:27 |
| bdmurray | caribou: are you subscribed to bugs about sosreport and makedumpfile? | 19:27 |
| caribou | bdmurray: I'm affraid not, as I realized this morning after asking for a new makedumpfile bug to be created & didn't get any notice | 19:28 |
| xnox | caribou: please subscribe to those two packages - both on launchpad (for ubuntu) and BTS (for debian) | 19:29 |
| bdmurray | caribou: it sounds like you plan on fixing this though, rigth? | 19:29 |
| caribou | bdmurray: indeed (for Ubuntu as it seems to be already the case for BTS) | 19:29 |
| caribou | bdmurray: again, this might be a case where I am but forgot : I'm just checking my mail for today & see that the new makedumpfile email is in | 19:30 |
| bdmurray | caribou: you aren't currently - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sosreport | 19:31 |
| bdmurray | see the "Subscribers" portlet | 19:31 |
| bdmurray | that's it from me | 19:32 |
| caribou | bdmurray: indeed, but a team I belong to is, which is why I get them. I will make sure to subscribe as an individual as well | 19:32 |
| xnox | ok. no questions from me. | 19:33 |
| stgraber | let's vote then (partial vote though as we said earlier) | 19:33 |
| xnox | #vote Please vote whether you are in favor to grant caribou PPU rights for sosreport & makedumpfile | 19:34 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Please vote whether you are in favor to grant caribou PPU rights for sosreport & makedumpfile | 19:34 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 19:34 |
| stgraber | +1 | 19:34 |
| meetingology | +1 received from stgraber | 19:34 |
| bdmurray | +1 | 19:34 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdmurray | 19:34 |
| xnox | +1 | 19:36 |
| meetingology | +1 received from xnox | 19:36 |
| xnox | #endvote | 19:36 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Please vote whether you are in favor to grant caribou PPU rights for sosreport & makedumpfile | 19:36 |
| meetingology | Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 19:36 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 19:36 |
| xnox | please note that Motion is not carried yet, as we do not have quorum. Remaining dmb members will ask further questions via email | 19:36 |
| xnox | and/or vote via email. | 19:37 |
| caribou | Thank you all, I'll be waiting for emails later on | 19:37 |
| xnox | caribou: thanks a lot for your time today, and stay tuned on the emails =) | 19:37 |
| caribou | xnox: sure | 19:37 |
| xnox | #topic Core Dev application Dann Frazier | 19:37 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: Core Dev application Dann Frazier | ||
| xnox | dannf: Hello! Thanks for waiting. Please introduce yourself and your application =) | 19:38 |
| dannf | hey, I'm dann frazier - 14 year DD where I've served on the kernel, stable release and security teams. I've been a contributor to Ubuntu for about 4 years. These days I'm mostly working on arm64/server stuff - hardware enablement/porting, and random bug fixing. | 19:38 |
| dannf | My contributions are generally random bug fixing/enablement patches (vs. introducing new packages, etc), and tend to be a bit all over the place (though normally in main). | 19:38 |
| dannf | I'm not an existing Ubuntu member - which I presume suspect makes going straight for CoreDev a bit optimistic, but it does seem to be the level of permission I'd need to do the type of work I do. I'm open to other starting point recommendations if I'm overshooting. | 19:38 |
| dannf | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DannFrazier/CoreDeveloperApplication | 19:38 |
| dannf | And yes, I'm subscribed to u-d-a :) | 19:39 |
| dannf | </intro> | 19:39 |
| * stgraber checks the package list to see if coredev is actually required | 19:41 | |
| xnox | stgraber: i've sponsored d-i components from dannf before, and all of them are in main. | 19:42 |
| xnox | and i don't think just server seed would be enough to upload d-i, let me check. | 19:42 |
| dannf | flash-kernel tends to be a heavy contribution point for me, but i do think that'll slow down as we see more uefi based systems | 19:42 |
| stgraber | coredev makes sense, there are a couple that are in virt/server but most of the packages listed are in core and should stay there | 19:42 |
| stgraber | dannf: I'm assuming that as a DD you'll keep trying to get as much of that work done in Debian and prefer syncs into Ubuntu over adding extra delta? | 19:43 |
| dannf | stgraber: yes, always have, and always plan to :) | 19:43 |
| stgraber | good :) | 19:43 |
| stgraber | dannf: same question as caribou, are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 19:43 |
| dannf | stgraber: yep, for at least year | 19:44 |
| stgraber | dannf: do you know how to check whether uploading a package will affect a media which may be in the middle of a milestone release? | 19:44 |
| dannf | stgraber: good question. i don't know of an *easy* way. most everything i do is netboot oriented, and i know how to check that - but not sure how to check for ISO impact w/o inspecting an ISO | 19:46 |
| stgraber | dannf: seeded-in-ubuntu <source name> | 19:47 |
| xnox | dannf: can you describe SRU process briefly in your own words - what stages/steps does it go through and what needs to happen at each stage/step? | 19:47 |
| dannf | xnox: sure. | 19:47 |
| dannf | 1) bug gets filed 2) bug gets nominated for the impacted stable releases (i e-mail the ubuntu-bugcontrol LP list to request this) | 19:48 |
| dannf | (my numbers aren't necessarily in order, since somethings can happen in parallel) | 19:48 |
| dannf | 3) fix gets applied to the current devel release (if applicable) | 19:49 |
| dannf | 4) patch/MP added to bug for SRU, description altered to match the SRU template | 19:49 |
| dannf | [Impact], [Test Case], [Regression Potential] | 19:49 |
| dannf | upload gets sponsored, uploaded to proposed | 19:49 |
| dannf | 5^ | 19:49 |
| dannf | 6) verification in proposed occurs, tag switches from verification-needed to verification-done after testing | 19:50 |
| dannf | 7) if everything test ok/risk of regression deemed reasonable, propagation occurs to updates | 19:50 |
| xnox | dannf: does package get published in -proposed straight away after an upload? | 19:51 |
| dannf | xnox: right, no - they sit in a queue awiting review from the SRU team | 19:51 |
| xnox | ok. | 19:53 |
| xnox | dannf: how are you planning to minimize existing divergence from upstreams? What if ubuntu is diverged from both upstream and debian - which divergence would you try to minimise? | 19:55 |
| xnox | (me asking RE: application form "What I like least in Ubuntu") | 19:55 |
| dannf | well, i guess it depends on the divergence need - but i would probably try to minimize the debian divergence vs. the upstream divergence as a normal practice (if the debian divergence itself couldn't be minimized) | 19:56 |
| xnox | ok. | 19:56 |
| xnox | bdmurray: stgraber: any more questions? | 19:56 |
| bdmurray | not from me | 19:57 |
| stgraber | nope | 19:58 |
| xnox | #vote granting dannf Core Developer status | 19:59 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: granting dannf Core Developer status | 19:59 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 19:59 |
| stgraber | +1 [While I usually prefer people to get Ubuntu Membership and some kind of PPU before coredev, I also trust Steve and Serge's judgment. That combined with the package list being requested, coredev doesn't seem unreasonable.] | 20:02 |
| meetingology | +1 [While I usually prefer people to get Ubuntu Membership and some kind of PPU before coredev, I also trust Steve and Serge's judgment. That combined with the package list being requested, coredev doesn't seem unreasonable.] received from stgraber | 20:02 |
| xnox | +1 [please do more partman/d-i development =)] | 20:04 |
| meetingology | +1 [please do more partman/d-i development =)] received from xnox | 20:04 |
| bdmurray | +1 from me too | 20:04 |
| meetingology | +1 from me too received from bdmurray | 20:04 |
| xnox | #endvote | 20:06 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: granting dannf Core Developer status | 20:06 |
| meetingology | Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 20:06 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 20:06 |
| xnox | dannf: please note that Motion is not carried yet, as we do not have quorum. Remaining dmb members will ask further questions via email and/or vote. | 20:06 |
| dannf | cool, thanks for your consideration :) | 20:06 |
| xnox | dannf: thanks for you time, and keep an eye on your inbox in the coming days. =) | 20:06 |
| xnox | thank you everyone, we are just past the hour already. | 20:06 |
| xnox | #endmeeting | 20:07 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Sep 8 20:07:10 2014 UTC. | 20:07 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-09-08-19.13.moin.txt | 20:07 |
| * dannf notes i'll be on vacation for about a week starting wednesday (getting married!) so unfortunately responses maybe delayed | 20:07 | |
| caribou | congratulations dannf | 20:07 |
| dannf | thx caribou ! you too! | 20:07 |
| dannf | (preliminarily of course) | 20:07 |
| caribou | I'm honoured to have shared that session with you :) | 20:07 |
| caribou | thanks everyone | 20:08 |
| xnox | dannf: congratulations! =) | 20:08 |
| dannf | caribou: you as well, *love* seeing what you've been doing with crashdump support | 20:09 |
| dannf | boo | 20:09 |
| dannf | typed too slow | 20:09 |
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