=== doko__ is now known as doko === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [16:53] hi! [16:53] hi [16:53] hello! [16:53] \o [16:53] hello [16:54] #startmeeting [16:54] Meeting started Mon Sep 8 16:54:46 2014 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:54] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:54] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:54] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:54] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:54] I'll go first [16:55] I'm on triage this week [16:55] I'm working on landing apparmor in silo 014 today in utopic, then moving on to landing it in the rtm branch [16:56] after that I will work to do whatever is needed to get the kernel tested and up [16:56] I will be patch piloting this week too [16:56] mdeslaur: you're up [16:56] I'm on community this week [16:56] I just published a couple of USNs === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [16:56] and am finishing some extra testing of the qemu and qemu-kvm packages that have been in -proposed for the past few weeks [16:57] I'll be publishing them this afternoon [16:57] Then I'm going to work on a long lost nss CVE [16:57] and have an embargoed issue to look at [16:57] and will go down the list after that [16:57] that's it from me, sbeattie, you're up [16:57] I'm focusing on apparmor again this week. [16:58] I'll be doing whatever's needed to land the current bits that jamie has siloed for utopic and RTM, then moving on to fix whatever bugs we still need to address beyond that. [16:58] that's pretty much it for me. [16:59] tyhicks: ? [16:59] I'm helping with the apparmor landings [16:59] I'm going through the remaining socketpair.sh and unix_socket.sh regression test failures and triaging them all [17:00] I need to finish testing a parser fix (that also affects the man page and unix_socket.sh regression tests) and send that out [17:01] I'm also addressing the feedback from sarnold (thanks!) on my unix_socket.sh changes so that I can get them committed to trunk [17:01] then I'll be fixing bugs, as needed [17:01] if I can break away for a bit, I need to respond to the upstream feedback that I received from the v3 dbus-daemon patches [17:01] and there's pending ecryptfs maint work for me [17:02] (not likely to get to that) [17:02] that's it for me [17:02] jjohansen: you're up [17:02] I'm focusing on apparmor this week as well, specifically I have some kernel refcount/locking bugs to fix [17:03] once those are done, what ever misc bugs pop up during testing/verification [17:04] thats it for me sarnold you are up [17:05] I'm in the happy place this week [17:06] but I've got a package to release from a user carried-over to this week (mariadb-5.5) and two supported packages to release this week (file, php5) [17:07] due to kvm hilarity I'm using canonistack for testing, hopefully al three will be out the door today === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [17:08] sarnold: what the status of django? [17:08] I intend to do some more apparmor patch reviews, I believe there are several left over from last week unreviewed still [17:08] mdeslaur: not yet started [17:09] mdeslaur: I had intended to prioritize apparmor patch reviews; would you rather I work on django update instead? [17:09] sarnold: no, please do the apparmor first [17:09] I'll try and do django this week [17:09] so don't start it [17:10] mdeslaur: okay, thanks === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:10] if there's time left over, I'll return to an old, complicated, MIR request [17:10] I think that's me covered, chrisccoulson? [17:11] I've got a couple of updates to do this week - one of those is Thunderbird from last week, but I'm waiting for the 31.1.1 build because it fixes an autocomplete regression [17:11] I shall also be looking at bug 1260016 [17:11] bug 1260016 in oxide-qt (Ubuntu) "Add an API to allow defining custom URL scheme delegates" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260016 [17:11] in addition to the usual stuff [17:11] that's me done :) [17:15] chrisccoulson: can I mark that bug in progress? (so people know) [17:15] jdstrand, sure [17:16] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [17:16] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [17:16] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [17:16] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gromacs.html [17:16] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/djbdns.html [17:16] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/a2ps.html [17:16] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/isync.html [17:16] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xnbd.html [17:17] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [17:17] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? === FJKong is now known as BH1SCW === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === BH1SCW is now known as FJKong === wendar_ is now known as wendar === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [19:01] * xnox o/ [19:02] o/ [19:03] * bdmurray is here [19:04] o/ [19:07] !dmb-ping [19:07] bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping [19:08] * stgraber waves [19:09] so I believe Laney is on vacation this week. [19:10] stgraber: yeap, I've just texted him and he is flying in two hours. [19:10] we need a 4th member to have quorum, let's hope ScottK or Micah will show up then... [19:10] otherwise I'd recommend we just bring both applicants to e-mail application, it's been what 2-3 meetings where we fail to get quorum now? [19:11] or we could start the meeting and/or collect votes when they show/email. [19:11] sure, that works for me [19:11] should make the e-mail application process much quicker [19:11] bdmurray: stgraber: xnox - who wants to chair? [19:11] =) [19:12] xnox: you seem to have the plan ;-) [19:12] hehe. [19:12] #startmeeting DMB Meeting [19:12] xnox: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. [19:12] #endmeeting [19:12] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [19:12] Meeting ended Mon Sep 8 19:12:37 2014 UTC. [19:12] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-09-08-16.54.moin.txt [19:12] xnox: try now [19:12] \o/ [19:12] I guess jdstrand forgot to finish theirs. [19:12] #startmeeting DMB Meeting [19:12] Meeting started Mon Sep 8 19:13:01 2014 UTC. The chair is xnox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [19:12] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: [19:13] oh I did [19:13] sorry! [19:13] jdstrand: welcome to DMB meeting =) wanna chair?! =) [19:13] heh [19:13] i'm not sure if we have any actions from past meetings. [19:13] So i think we can just continue through to applications [19:14] those usually end up with me and I'm not aware of anything I forgot to do :) [19:14] #topic - PPU application Louis Bouchard === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: - PPU application Louis Bouchard [19:14] Hello everyone [19:14] caribou: hola! Welcome to DMB meeting. Could you please say hi and a few words about yourself and your application today? [19:15] Sure, my name is Louis Bouchard, [19:15] I have been involved with the ubuntu project directly for a bit more than 3 years [19:16] I have been a contributing developer for over a year now. I am was doing sponsored maintenance of makedumpfile on Debian for over 2 years [19:16] and I am now the official Debian Maintainer. I'm doing my best to keep the delta b/w Debian & Ubuntu to Null [19:17] I've also been involved on sosreport for more than a year and am part of the upstream development team [19:17] I am applying today for upload rights on those two packages : sosreport & makedumpfile [19:18] the intent being to be involved on both Debian & Ubuntu activities and to keep the gap as small as possible between both [19:19] caribou: are you a DM for both package or just makedumpfile? [19:19] and as per https://ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt you do have DM rights to upload those two packages in Debian already. ( [19:19] that answers my question :) [19:19] i granted sosreport DM rights to caribou in Debian. [19:19] ) [19:19] caribou: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? [19:19] Currently just for makedumpfile as sosreport has no official DM. I'm working with Adam Stokes to fix that up [19:20] stgraber: I thought I was, then recently discovered that I was no longer; just ubuntu-devel. [19:20] caribou: .... there are no email notifications, but you have been granted upload rights for sosreport. [19:20] ok, please make sure you subscribe to ubuntu-devel-announce [19:21] caribou: are any of those packages seeded? [19:21] stgraber: sosreport is seeded on the ubuntu-server image [19:22] stgraber: done [19:22] good :) [19:22] caribou: why do we carry a delta on sosreport? [19:23] stgraber: right now, upstream is at 3.2-alpha and Utopic is at 3.1.1 plus a few patches which are backport of 3.2-alpha [19:24] stgraber: the delta is mainly to make some of the data collection submitted upstream available to Ubuntu faster, especially for the technical support people using sosreport [19:24] stgraber: which rely on this tool daily [19:24] stgraber: many of those upstream fixes are coming from them [19:25] cool [19:25] xnox: no further question, ready to vote [19:25] stgraber: FYI, turns out that I *am* subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce :-) [19:25] bdmurray: any more questions from you? [19:26] caribou: yeah, please stop sorting that to /dev/null then ;-) *giggle* [19:26] xnox: will do :) [19:27] did we losoe Brian? :) [19:27] caribou: are you subscribed to bugs about sosreport and makedumpfile? [19:28] bdmurray: I'm affraid not, as I realized this morning after asking for a new makedumpfile bug to be created & didn't get any notice [19:29] caribou: please subscribe to those two packages - both on launchpad (for ubuntu) and BTS (for debian) [19:29] caribou: it sounds like you plan on fixing this though, rigth? [19:29] bdmurray: indeed (for Ubuntu as it seems to be already the case for BTS) [19:30] bdmurray: again, this might be a case where I am but forgot : I'm just checking my mail for today & see that the new makedumpfile email is in [19:31] caribou: you aren't currently - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sosreport [19:31] see the "Subscribers" portlet [19:32] that's it from me [19:32] bdmurray: indeed, but a team I belong to is, which is why I get them. I will make sure to subscribe as an individual as well [19:33] ok. no questions from me. [19:33] let's vote then (partial vote though as we said earlier) [19:34] #vote Please vote whether you are in favor to grant caribou PPU rights for sosreport & makedumpfile [19:34] Please vote on: Please vote whether you are in favor to grant caribou PPU rights for sosreport & makedumpfile [19:34] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:34] +1 [19:34] +1 received from stgraber [19:34] +1 [19:34] +1 received from bdmurray [19:36] +1 [19:36] +1 received from xnox [19:36] #endvote [19:36] Voting ended on: Please vote whether you are in favor to grant caribou PPU rights for sosreport & makedumpfile [19:36] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:36] Motion carried [19:36] please note that Motion is not carried yet, as we do not have quorum. Remaining dmb members will ask further questions via email [19:37] and/or vote via email. [19:37] Thank you all, I'll be waiting for emails later on [19:37] caribou: thanks a lot for your time today, and stay tuned on the emails =) [19:37] xnox: sure [19:37] #topic Core Dev application Dann Frazier === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: Core Dev application Dann Frazier [19:38] dannf: Hello! Thanks for waiting. Please introduce yourself and your application =) [19:38] hey, I'm dann frazier - 14 year DD where I've served on the kernel, stable release and security teams. I've been a contributor to Ubuntu for about 4 years. These days I'm mostly working on arm64/server stuff - hardware enablement/porting, and random bug fixing. [19:38] My contributions are generally random bug fixing/enablement patches (vs. introducing new packages, etc), and tend to be a bit all over the place (though normally in main). [19:38] I'm not an existing Ubuntu member - which I presume suspect makes going straight for CoreDev a bit optimistic, but it does seem to be the level of permission I'd need to do the type of work I do. I'm open to other starting point recommendations if I'm overshooting. [19:38] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DannFrazier/CoreDeveloperApplication [19:39] And yes, I'm subscribed to u-d-a :) [19:39] [19:41] * stgraber checks the package list to see if coredev is actually required [19:42] stgraber: i've sponsored d-i components from dannf before, and all of them are in main. [19:42] and i don't think just server seed would be enough to upload d-i, let me check. [19:42] flash-kernel tends to be a heavy contribution point for me, but i do think that'll slow down as we see more uefi based systems [19:42] coredev makes sense, there are a couple that are in virt/server but most of the packages listed are in core and should stay there [19:43] dannf: I'm assuming that as a DD you'll keep trying to get as much of that work done in Debian and prefer syncs into Ubuntu over adding extra delta? [19:43] stgraber: yes, always have, and always plan to :) [19:43] good :) [19:43] dannf: same question as caribou, are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? [19:44] stgraber: yep, for at least year [19:44] dannf: do you know how to check whether uploading a package will affect a media which may be in the middle of a milestone release? [19:46] stgraber: good question. i don't know of an *easy* way. most everything i do is netboot oriented, and i know how to check that - but not sure how to check for ISO impact w/o inspecting an ISO [19:47] dannf: seeded-in-ubuntu [19:47] dannf: can you describe SRU process briefly in your own words - what stages/steps does it go through and what needs to happen at each stage/step? [19:47] xnox: sure. [19:48] 1) bug gets filed 2) bug gets nominated for the impacted stable releases (i e-mail the ubuntu-bugcontrol LP list to request this) [19:48] (my numbers aren't necessarily in order, since somethings can happen in parallel) [19:49] 3) fix gets applied to the current devel release (if applicable) [19:49] 4) patch/MP added to bug for SRU, description altered to match the SRU template [19:49] [Impact], [Test Case], [Regression Potential] [19:49] upload gets sponsored, uploaded to proposed [19:49] 5^ [19:50] 6) verification in proposed occurs, tag switches from verification-needed to verification-done after testing [19:50] 7) if everything test ok/risk of regression deemed reasonable, propagation occurs to updates [19:51] dannf: does package get published in -proposed straight away after an upload? [19:51] xnox: right, no - they sit in a queue awiting review from the SRU team [19:53] ok. [19:55] dannf: how are you planning to minimize existing divergence from upstreams? What if ubuntu is diverged from both upstream and debian - which divergence would you try to minimise? [19:55] (me asking RE: application form "What I like least in Ubuntu") [19:56] well, i guess it depends on the divergence need - but i would probably try to minimize the debian divergence vs. the upstream divergence as a normal practice (if the debian divergence itself couldn't be minimized) [19:56] ok. [19:56] bdmurray: stgraber: any more questions? [19:57] not from me [19:58] nope [19:59] #vote granting dannf Core Developer status [19:59] Please vote on: granting dannf Core Developer status [19:59] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:02] +1 [While I usually prefer people to get Ubuntu Membership and some kind of PPU before coredev, I also trust Steve and Serge's judgment. That combined with the package list being requested, coredev doesn't seem unreasonable.] [20:02] +1 [While I usually prefer people to get Ubuntu Membership and some kind of PPU before coredev, I also trust Steve and Serge's judgment. That combined with the package list being requested, coredev doesn't seem unreasonable.] received from stgraber [20:04] +1 [please do more partman/d-i development =)] [20:04] +1 [please do more partman/d-i development =)] received from xnox [20:04] +1 from me too [20:04] +1 from me too received from bdmurray [20:06] #endvote [20:06] Voting ended on: granting dannf Core Developer status [20:06] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:06] Motion carried [20:06] dannf: please note that Motion is not carried yet, as we do not have quorum. Remaining dmb members will ask further questions via email and/or vote. [20:06] cool, thanks for your consideration :) [20:06] dannf: thanks for you time, and keep an eye on your inbox in the coming days. =) [20:06] thank you everyone, we are just past the hour already. [20:07] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:07] Meeting ended Mon Sep 8 20:07:10 2014 UTC. [20:07] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-09-08-19.13.moin.txt [20:07] * dannf notes i'll be on vacation for about a week starting wednesday (getting married!) so unfortunately responses maybe delayed [20:07] congratulations dannf [20:07] thx caribou ! you too! [20:07] (preliminarily of course) [20:07] I'm honoured to have shared that session with you :) [20:08] thanks everyone [20:08] dannf: congratulations! =) [20:09] caribou: you as well, *love* seeing what you've been doing with crashdump support [20:09] boo [20:09] typed too slow