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shiggityokay rsalveti nvm... I was going to backup my n5 and see if you had a new build of UT for me to try.. but I can't find my proper OTG adapter for my phone..... I guess I'll wait00:10
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dholbachgood morning07:04
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Lubitciao ragazzi qualcuno lo ha provato su nexus 5?08:52
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Literacy Day! :-D09:08
justCarakasany idea when a new devel image will be released ?09:41
seb128is there a known issue where contacts added are lost after a restart?10:18
seb128who is working on contacts?10:18
ogra_seb128, bfillers team as usual :)10:31
seb128bfiller, hey :-) see ^10:32
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Saviqtvoss, hmm "Cannot get current playback position without a valid media-hub player session"?11:36
Saviqom26er, can you check if you're getting ↑ in ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log when you get the "UI halt on incoming message"?11:37
om26erSaviq, checking11:37
* Saviq suspects the media backend blocks the UI thread on creation of an Audio object with no source11:38
om26erSaviq, So between the time I reported the bug, I flashed to utopic latest image on my mako. Now I don't see the UI halt because due to some reason OSD is not appearing at all11:40
Saviqom26er, ugh11:41
om26erI get the sound, I get the notification in the 'Notification center' but not OSD. So makes me think the halt comes from unity's OSD.11:41
WellarkCimi, seb128: was there something you need from me ?11:43
Wellarkmy backlog does not cover all of the discussion from last week when I was on holiday11:43
seb128Wellark, mpt filed a stack of bugs on settings, some probably come from the indicator, would be nice if you could have a look/triage them/maybe fix some11:44
Wellarkseb128: against which project?11:44
Wellarkubuntu-system-settings ?11:45
seb128Wellark, yes11:45
Wellarkseb128: ok. I will take a look11:48
seb128Wellark, thanks11:48
seb128mardy, hey, could you have a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard-crash/+merge/233589 ?11:49
Saviqom26er, yeah, the sound is played by the backend these days, but the OSD has an Audio element, too, and that message is a new thing (and I noticed some dbus timeouts during unity8 ap testing that seems related to that media-hub message)11:50
seb128mardy, it's short, I would like to know if the change makes sense to you11:50
seb128Saviq, or you maybe ^ ;-)11:50
seb128somebody more familiar with qml behaviour than me at least11:50
om26erSaviq, media-hub-server crashed caused that message for me. I reported a bug related to that see bug 136674111:51
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1366741 could not be found11:51
om26erlaunchpad is retracing it, i'll make it public11:51
mardyseb128: that change is correct, the documentation of qmlRegisterSingletonType() explicitly says that the object must not be implemented as a singleton itself11:52
seb128mardy, thanks11:52
seb128asac, ^ approved that wizard fix from mterry11:53
asacthanks!11:53
asacnow someone needs to land it in utopic, then we can add it to the HERE silo11:53
asachere silo for rtm11:54
seb128asac, is HERE a rtm one?11:54
seb128asac, we are a bit stucked on landing a settings update in rtm11:54
seb128qa keeps blocking us on weird bugs11:54
asacseb128: right, so QA is singing that silo off right now11:54
Saviqseb128, oh, you got tags on lp:ubuntu-system-settings, wanna my script for stripping them? ;)11:54
seb128like pin unlock not working11:54
asacseb128: 01511:54
asachmm11:54
ogra_seb128, yeah, just ignore, who needs that :P11:54
asacdidnt hear aboout that11:54
seb128asac, yes, brendad nacked that again earlier11:54
seb128asac, due to bug #136674511:55
asacdavmor2: ^11:55
ubot5bug 1366745 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Unlock SIM fails with latest ubuntu-system-settings installed" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136674511:55
seb128seems to happen only on krillin and first boot11:55
seb128could be due to the wizard11:55
ogra_didnt the wizard restart a bunch of services ?11:55
ogra_i wonder if ofono is among them11:55
seb128it does11:55
ogra_(and doesnt get a proper restart or so)11:56
seb128well, it does restart things11:56
asachmm11:56
seb128included indicators and the osk11:56
seb128not sure about ofono11:56
davmor2asac: ah that is the one that brendand was on about then.11:56
asacso i had my indicators being black after first boot11:56
seb128but apparently that issue doesn't happen on mako11:56
davmor2asac: in the silo testing trello board you'll see that brendand had marked it failed but I had assumed this was the rebuild to fix it but obviously not.11:57
asacsystem settings landing is huge11:57
seb128yes11:57
seb128lot of fixes stacked there11:57
* ogra_ see telephony-service landed on fiday 11:58
asacyou should have landed them to rtm one by one when you landed each in utopic then you wouldnt have needed qa sign off11:58
asacif they were isloated11:58
ogra_though none of the changelog entries look like they would be massively relevant11:59
asacanyway this probably would have sneaked in then11:59
ogra_(which means nothing with todays changelogs though)11:59
seb128asac, well, we are trying to get a landed for a while11:59
seb128but we got qa to test11:59
seb128and they keep nacking11:59
seb128so delta keeps getting more11:59
asacright. you have to stop then and fix :)11:59
asachehe11:59
seb128well, we do fix11:59
seb128but qa turnover is a bit slow11:59
ogra_seb128, well, ken has a habit of merging a ton of MPs together for system-settings landings11:59
asacsomeone needs to sit down and fix whatever is this about now i guess11:59
seb128we can't stop working for days11:59
asacwell, lets not argue12:00
seb128ogra_, well, there is no other way to deal with the stack of bugfixes12:00
ogra_would probably be better to bite the bullet and have more to test but land them one by one12:00
asacsomeone has to sit down and figure whats going on here12:00
seb128right12:00
seb128that someone should be ken or jonas or mterry12:00
asacright. this stacking risks us to loose everything if we cannot figure it12:01
asacthe only way to resurrect is to reset so we can land save parts again12:01
asacanyway12:01
asaclets have folks look today on this blocker12:01
seb128that shows we don't handle things in a smart way12:01
seb128we have like 15 bugfixes in there12:01
seb128we should be able to land12:01
asacright, but only those that dont cause the regression12:01
seb128even if qa has a weird issue which is happening sometimes on some devices12:01
seb128I'm unsure there is a regression12:02
seb128there is a bug that happens randomly12:02
asaci think they say its a clear regression12:02
seb128which qa happened to run into when testing12:02
asacits just on first boot after fresh install, so you haven't seen it12:02
ogra_seb128, hmm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/ofono/1.12.bzr6874+14.10.20140820.is.1.12.bzr6872+14.10.20140804-0ubuntu112:02
seb128could be12:02
asacdavmor2: is this reproducible 100%?12:02
asacdavmor2: and 0% with the package before?12:02
ogra_i wonder if the developers did have the unreverted ofono around12:02
seb128asac, but settings have nothing to do with sim unlock12:02
seb128could be the wizard letting things in a weird state though12:02
asacright. so lets challenge that part12:02
asacseb128: so the wizard is crashing at the end12:03
asacright now12:03
asacseb128: see the mterry bug12:03
seb128right12:03
asaci assume that could cause weird issues12:03
asacso maybe that fix will fix this :)12:03
seb128could be leading to the weird state12:03
seb128right12:03
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seb128well, let's land that into utopic12:03
davmor2asac: I'll need to grab my locked sim and find out, but first Luch has just been called.  So as soon as I get back I'll look into it12:03
asacright12:03
seb128then get qa to test that version12:03
asacright. i think adding that one doesnt matter :)12:03
asacthe pile is already big enough12:03
asachehe12:03
CimiWellark, seb128 it was related to the wifi page12:04
CimiWellark, icons, wifi strength, they are gone12:04
CimiWellark, you can take inspiration from the wifi page of the wizard I redid last week12:04
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iahmadAnyone here who could help me with phablet-screenshot on rtm build, getting an error 'Failed to connect to server. Error was :Failed to connect to server socket'12:08
WellarkCimi: I don't want to touch it.. ping pat, it's his team working on the settings ;)12:10
WellarkCimi: you have a bug number or something?12:11
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ogra_pitti, wrt bug 1365990 ... do yoou still see the device offline in recent utopic images ?12:20
ubot5bug 1365990 in goget-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-emulator create needs --developer-mode and --password options" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136599012:20
asacmterry: :)12:21
asacmterry: two tings... seems the previous system-settings silo for got stuck because it triggered some weird thing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/136674512:22
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1366745 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Unlock SIM fails with latest ubuntu-system-settings installed" [High,New]12:22
asaccould this be caused by the crash too?12:22
ogra_iahmad, with the very latest phablet-tools installed ?12:22
iahmadogra_, yes12:23
ogra_ogra@styx:~$ phablet-screenshot shot.png12:23
ogra_I: Dumping fb0 ...12:23
ogra_4386 KB/s (3932160 bytes in 0.875s)12:23
ogra_I: Done12:23
ogra_ogra@styx:~$ eog shot.png12:23
ogra_hmm, works fine here12:23
mterryasac, let me see12:23
ogra_(mako, latest utopic)12:23
ogra_iahmad, oh, you said rtm ... one sec12:24
iahmadogra_, I am on krillin, rtm, if that makes any diff?12:24
asacmterry: ubuntu-rtm/landing-015 - ubuntu-system-settings : mterry in list Under Testing12:24
ogra_ogra@styx:~$ phablet-screenshot shot.png12:24
ogra_I: Dumping fb0 ...12:24
ogra_5236 KB/s (2073600 bytes in 0.386s)12:24
ogra_I: Done12:24
ogra_ogra@styx:~$12:24
asacthats the silo that bounced (has a quite a few things piled up)12:24
ogra_iahmad, same thing ... hmm12:25
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iahmadogra_, dpkg -l phablet-tools?12:25
ogra_(and nothing in phablet-screenshot or Mir changed in that area)12:25
mterryasac, the crash shouldn't be related...  I'm confused on that one -- I would have said it's due to the race I fixed between lightdm and systemd-shim on Friday.  But they say this is only introduced by upgrading USS...12:25
ogra_iahmad, 1.1+14.10.20140905-0ubuntu1 .... but phblet-screenshot didnt change in a month or so12:26
asacmterry: yeah. davmor2 will triple check after lunch12:26
asacmterry: maybe the other fixes are in other rtm silos? e.g. should be bundled into one?12:26
asacmterry: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=12:26
asacmterry: there is 016 -> systemd-shim for instance12:27
ogra_mterry, systemd-shim wasnt merged to rtm yet i think12:27
mterryasac, the race fix is in distro's systemd-shim package (something we get from Debian) -- will that automatically be imported to rtm, or do we have to file sync requests for non-CI packages?12:27
asacmterry: you have to land them through requesting a silo12:28
asacthat will soruce copy the bits from utopic into rtm silo12:28
asacthat you want12:28
mterryasac, ok, and there's a rtm-016 silo for it already?12:28
asacmterry: talk to ogra about what you need12:28
asacright. that seems empty though12:28
asacMirv: ogra_: ^^?12:28
ogra_to me ?12:28
asacogra_: yes, sil said you are in charge, no?12:28
* ogra_ doesnt do silos 12:28
ogra_asac, silos is Mirv12:29
asacMirv: ^^ :)12:29
ogra_i run the meeting (well, and didnt today either due to browser issues)12:29
asacogra_: ok, thought you are the man doing it in the morning12:29
ogra_yeah, meeings etc12:29
asacogra_: guess by running meeting you are at least the driver12:29
asacand take requests like that and help find someone12:29
ogra_right i'm just not that experienced with the silo bits12:30
ogra_so i leave that to someone who is (technically i have the power .... but dont even know the sync tools etc for rtm silos)12:30
Mirvasac: trying to get it built, the job has failed the previous time12:30
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Mirveh, that's a bit special package, I guess I'll copy manually. "http://people.gnome.org/~desrt/ failed: 500 Can't connect to people.gnome.org:80 (timeout)"12:32
Mirv(while running uscan)12:32
ogra_wow12:33
ogra_how woould that ever build ?12:33
ogra_buildds cannt see the internets ...12:33
ogra_*cannot12:33
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Mirvok it's building now at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-016/+packages12:34
pittiogra_: I'll check ASAP12:40
pittiogra_: ah, you uploded the dh_installinit fix?12:40
ogra_pitti, _installudev ... but yeah :)12:41
ogra_dev mode improved a lot on the weekend12:41
ogra_last remaining bit is a pam helper i'm knitting atm12:42
ogra_so that the unsetting of the password disables dev mode alongside12:42
Saviqogra_, while I agree I'd rather not re-impl phablet-tools, I'd need to be able to import and use parts of it, as the script we have is really tailored towards what we need from it to dev unity8 on the device12:51
tvossSaviq, where do you see that?12:51
Saviqtvoss, unity8.log12:51
tvossSaviq, interesting. I did not land anything to the image12:52
Saviqtvoss, well, not any more, maybe what om26er said that it's when the media hub crashed12:52
tvossSaviq, there was a recent media hub landing that introduced an audio role12:52
ogra_Saviq, well, we should merge the missing bits into phablet-tools where possible ... and use phablet-config for all bits not on the device ... Saviq thats not the reason why i marked it "needs fixing" though ... thats just the unlock code12:53
ogra_Saviq, the merge is rather a long term thing i think12:53
Saviqogra_, a lot of the missing bits I don't think make sense in a generic tool in general13:00
ogra_Saviq, well, the package installation should be maintained in a single place13:00
ogra_you should just call the right phablet-config command for it13:01
Saviqogra_, sure, but then we create and install a -build-deps package13:01
Saviqogra_, so we need the sudo in any case, I can move the apt-get to phablet-config sure13:01
ogra_then there should be a phablet-config get-build-deps ;)13:01
Saviqogra_, except we need to build them from source, not from distro13:01
Saviqogra_, because source might be different than what's in distro13:01
ogra_Saviq, phablet-config has the sudo bits ... and it would be really helpful to only have to maintain changed to in in one single place13:02
Saviqogra_, sure, totally agree with that13:02
Saviqogra_, that's why I said maybe we need an importable module that will deal with that13:02
Saviqogra_, and any custom things we need to do in the script we can use the common bits for anyway13:02
ogra_phablet-config writable-image --packagedir stuffs your source deb in place btw13:02
ogra_from a dir on your PC13:02
Saviqyeah, we rsync to be a lil' faster13:03
ogra_(doesnt install build-deps but thats something we coudl/should add)13:03
ogra_and switching to rsync wouldnt be an issue either :)13:03
Saviqogra_, sure, I just don't think everything should get into phablet-tools13:03
ogra_i think it should13:03
Saviqogra_, ah and your needs fixin' is just for the sudo -u phablet -i?13:04
ogra_right13:04
ogra_the other stuff is meant long term13:04
Saviqogra_, ok, will fix, and will use phablet-tools where possible13:04
ogra_the good thing about phablet-tools is that they are not bound to any schdule or archive13:04
ogra_we can change that after rtm ... they live in a PPA13:05
nerochiarodobey: hi, I've been told you are the person to talk to for questions about the click scope. do you have a minute ? or can you point to someone who can help me if it's not you ?13:08
dobeynerochiaro: just ask :)13:11
nik90_tvoss: hi, hope you had a nice weekend. Were you able to check if the source error signals are fired correctly when the location service is disabled and when the user denied clock app access to location services in the dialog prompt?13:12
tvossnik90_, yeah, had a nice weekend. will likely get to it tomorrow13:13
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nik90_tvoss: thnx13:13
vesarhey how can I make my phone file system writeable these days? touch /userdata/.writable_image && reboot fails for me saying "permission denied"13:25
kenvandinevesar, phablet-config writable-image13:34
kenvandinevesar, should work13:34
kenvandineif you are running devel-proposed you might need to enable developer mode and set a pin13:34
bfillerseb128: yes that is known issue we are working https://bugs.launchpad.net/address-book-service/+bug/134755713:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1347557 in address-book-service (Ubuntu) "contacts disappeared sometimes after reboot" [Critical,Confirmed]13:36
seb128bfiller, thanks13:37
Saviqogra_, complaint about phablet-config -p... no output and forced reboot...13:37
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ogra_Saviq, right, thats the purpose ... we need to split that inot two commands long term13:38
nerochiarobfiller: do you know what else needs to be done for this to be merged ? https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/gallery-app-new-album-i18n/+merge/23301813:38
ogra_(they are bound together to make 100% sure the rootfs is writable before trying to install anything)13:38
bfillernerochiaro: nothing, it's in the silo13:39
nerochiarobfiller: ok, thanks13:40
vesarkenvandine, I think it worked since QtCreator shows that I have writeable image now. But my adb push still fails when pushing to /usr/share/unity8/... Any idea?13:44
kenvandinevesar, have you enabled developer mode?  and are you running devel-proposed?13:44
vesaryes, and yes13:45
kenvandinedo you see it with adb devices ?13:45
vesarkenvandine, yes13:45
kenvandineok, then i don't know... ogra_ ^^13:46
ogra_adbd runs as phablet user13:47
ogra_it wont have write permission to system dirs13:47
vesarogra_, it used to work.13:48
ogra_adb push to the phablet homedir ... then use something like: adb shell "echo $mypassword| sudo -S cp $sourcedir $targetdir"13:48
ogra_vesar, yes, and it will no more13:48
ogra_by design13:48
tedgkenvandine, Could you point a couple pointers to Content Hub on bug 1366217 ?13:49
ubot5bug 1366217 in Ubuntu File Manager App "Filemanager sending out file:/// URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136621713:49
vesarogra_, ok. my prototype design just keeps getting more difficult:) to test new edge prototypes I need to modify some of the shell components so that I have access to device edges from my prototype.13:50
ogra_vesar, you could just push an /etc/sudoers.d/myproject fiel in place that sets NOPASSWD for the phablet user if this is solely for testing13:51
ogra_annd then just prefix all root related commands with sudo (passwordless)13:52
kenvandinetedg, commented13:56
dobeycjwatson: do you know why clicks installed in /opt would get preferred, even if the ones in /usr/share/click/preinstalled are newer?13:56
tedgkenvandine, Thanks!13:57
pmcgowankenvandine, jgdx are one of you fixing the phone number display for dual sim?13:57
kenvandinepmcgowan, i didn't realize it was broken... it worked when i tested it13:58
pmcgowankenvandine, oh already done then13:58
kenvandinepmcgowan, i'm trying to get a handle on why settings failed QA verification for rtm again13:58
pmcgowannew request to move to a different panel13:58
pmcgowankenvandine, bah13:59
kenvandinethey found a crash in the wizard... which seems location related13:59
kenvandinethe location service crashes too13:59
kenvandinebut... the crash isn't obvious... it seems to be at the end13:59
kenvandinebut it does leave a crash file13:59
pmcgowanwonder if inconsistent landings/deps13:59
pmcgowanif its only on rtm13:59
pmcgowanrecent location service work landed I believe14:00
kenvandinethey also said that SIM pin locking failed... and the cellular panel generally didn't work14:00
kenvandinebut... works for me on rtm14:00
kenvandineand... i don't think anything changed in the cellular panel since the last rtm landing14:00
pmcgowannope14:00
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kenvandineit's a big pile of changes waiting to sync, but nothing in cellular14:00
jgdxpmcgowan, note that the phone numbers only display if they're actually on the SIM.14:01
pmcgowanjgdx, ack14:01
kenvandineafter trying again, i did find the .crash files for location and the wizard14:01
kenvandinewhich was easy to miss before14:01
pmcgowanwhat does wizard do with location?14:01
kenvandinepmcgowan, i'm going to test for that on utopic-proposed this morning14:01
kenvandinepmcgowan, accepts the HERE terms14:02
kenvandineand enables something14:02
pmcgowansounds like something else needs to land in backend14:02
kenvandinethat's all part of the delta between utopic-proposed and rtm14:02
pmcgowankenvandine, ok let me know if I can help test/debug14:02
vesarogra_, this is all indeed just for testing purposes. ok managed to push my changed file to a correct place with this: adb shell "echo $mypassword| sudo -S cp $sourcedir $targetdir"14:02
ogra_yeah, that will work14:03
vesarogra_, but have no idea what all that  /etc/sudoers.d/myproject etc. means. I'll consult ondrej..:)14:03
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nerochiarozbenjamin: another problem with qtcreator after recent updates is that i can't ssh into the device anymore. how can i check what error is it giving ?14:19
nerochiarozbenjamin: when i click on the buttons in qtc a console just flashes briefly but i can't read what's wrong14:19
ogra_nerochiaro, adb shell "android-gadget-service enable ssh"14:19
ogra_that will turn on ssh14:20
ogra_(the SDK should have code for this though)14:20
zbenjaminogra_: only if developer mode is enabled14:20
ogra_zbenjamin, which you indeed want for development :)14:20
zbenjaminogra_: yeah i would agree on that ;)14:20
zbenjaminnerochiaro: so is developer mode enabled on your phone? password is set?14:21
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nerochiarozbenjamin: dev mode is on, pincode is set14:25
nerochiarozbenjamin: if i try to manually ssh into the device it tells me publickey auth failed14:25
ogra_nerochiaro, you need to copy your key in place14:26
nerochiaroogra_: i did that14:26
nerochiaroogra_: also, the gadget service gives me this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8290917/14:26
ogra_sure it is the right key ?14:26
zbenjaminnerochiaro: can you tell me the port that is forwarded to 22 in adb forward --list14:27
nerochiaroogra_: well, i put in both the one is have in .ssh and the one in /home/nerochiaro/.config/ubuntu-sdk/ubuntudevice_id_rsa.pub just to be sure14:27
nerochiarozbenjamin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8290929/14:28
ogra_nerochiaro, you only need it in /home/phablet/.ssh/authorized_keys14:28
ogra_afaik14:28
zbenjaminnerochiaro: ssh -i ~/.config/ubuntu-sdk/ubuntudevice_id_rsa -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -p 10000 phablet@localhost14:28
nerochiarozbenjamin: permission denied (publickey)14:29
nerochiaroogra_: i put it in /home/phablet/.ssh/authorized_keys214:29
zbenjaminnerochiaro: do you still have ubuntudevice keys in ~/.ssh?14:29
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ogra_nerochiaro, what device image is that on btw ? (wondering about the gadget-service issue)14:30
zbenjaminogra_: what is the gadget service btw14:30
ogra_zbenjamin, well, initially it was only to set properties for the USB gadget driver (en/disable adb, rndis or mtp) ... it kind of grew in all directions now though ... and now its simply a dbus service for all bits the phablet user needs permission to do14:31
ogra_i guess a rename is in order at some point :)14:32
zbenjaminogra_: ah good to know thanks !14:32
ogra_hmm, and in fact i just notice that the help message needs updating, it doesnt list all options yet14:33
asacsergiusens: out of the list of packages to move to custom, which ones are not click? wanted to split the bugs up in two14:33
asacone for all the clicks that can move in one shot14:33
asacand another for each of the others that need work14:34
ogra_asac, note that we lose all citrain ability for such apps14:34
ogra_(we cant land clicks via the train yet)14:34
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sergiusensasac:  where is the list?14:39
sergiusensasac: sorry, I think I asked for a bug with the list or a link to it14:39
nerochiaroogra_: 29, from the rtm channel14:39
sergiusensdidn't see a response to that14:39
ogra_nerochiaro, oh, the new developer mode did not land in rtm yet14:39
nerochiaroogra_: oh, so i can't get ssh there ?14:40
ogra_nerochiaro, this should still all behave exactly like it used to14:40
nerochiaroogra_: not really14:40
ogra_well, not my fault at least :)14:40
nerochiarozbenjamin: in ~/.ssh on the device ? no14:40
nerochiarozbenjamin: and also not on the desktop14:41
padhuHi ubuntians, anybody tried Ubuntu for android in Moto E XT1022?14:41
zbenjaminnerochiaro: on your local machine14:41
zbenjaminnerochiaro: that looks like you have the corrent ssh key not on the device.14:41
popeypadhu: ubuntu for android was never released, so no.14:42
padhuubuntu-touch?14:42
popeypadhu: can you use more words if you're going to ask a question? ☻14:42
nerochiarozbenjamin: i asked qtc to put it there but i guess it failed14:42
padhupopey: I brought Moto E, I want Ubuntu software for that mobile.14:42
popey!devices | padhu14:43
ubot5padhu: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices14:43
padhuIf it is available and working, I am really happy14:43
popeyi dont know, but there's various devices listed on that page14:43
zbenjaminnerochiaro: can you backup your authorized_keys and remove it, then tell qtc again to put it there14:44
padhuI am looking14:44
mptWellark, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/184101773/Other%20network.png14:46
padhuI am not not lucky, It is available for Moto G14:46
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nerochiarozbenjamin: should it be authorized_keys or authorized_keys214:56
nerochiarozbenjamin: ?14:56
zbenjaminnerochiaro: ah you are using phablet-shell14:59
zbenjaminnerochiaro: the problem with phablet-shell is that is just copies away the authorized keys and replaces it with a new file14:59
nerochiarozbenjamin: am ?14:59
nerochiarozbenjamin: i'm not using the phablet-shell command directly14:59
zbenjaminnerochiaro: so if you phablet-shell in after QtC has detected your phone you will break the authorized_keys15:00
zbenjaminnerochiaro: weird15:00
nerochiarozbenjamin: i removed the file authorized_keys2, then asked qtc to put the keys, and it created a new authorized_keys215:01
zbenjaminlet me check that15:01
nerochiarozbenjamin: but still can't connect15:01
zbenjaminlet me check that15:02
zbenjaminnerochiaro: hmm it seems to be authorized_keys215:03
cjwatsondobey: version comparison doesn't come into it; it depends which is the top layer registered for the user in question.  I need to put some more thought into the interaction of image upgrades and individual app upgrades from the store, though, which I expect is what you're referring to15:03
zbenjaminnerochiaro: what happens if you remove the authorized_keys file?15:04
dobeycjwatson: yes. it seems that if one installs an update for a pre-installed app, and then upgrades to a new image later which has a newer version of the app, there's possibility for the older version to be what is registered for the user15:07
cjwatsondobey: right; for now a counterintuitive workaround is to uninstall the app once (which actually just removes the top layer, unless somebody "broke" that :) )15:08
cjwatsonbut I recognise this needs more work, somewhere15:08
dobeycjwatson: is there a bug open already?15:09
nerochiarozbenjamin: i have authorized_keys, just the 215:10
zbenjaminnerochiaro: remove everything that is called authorizes_keys and try again...... Probably restart the phone15:10
zbenjaminnerochiaro: this is clearly a ssh key issue, i have no idea where its coming from.... probably try to connect with the verbose switch15:11
cjwatsondobey: I think bug 1342858 is the same thing15:11
ubot5bug 1342858 in click (Ubuntu) "old click packages are not always cleaned out" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134285815:11
dobeycjwatson: ok, added a comment about the older versions being preferred issue15:16
dobeythanks15:16
dobeyok, need to go to lunch. bbiab15:17
jgdxmpt, ping15:46
jgdxmpt, I've created bug 1365545 – and a potential fix. But hopefully you have a better idea. Thanks15:48
ubot5bug 1365545 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[background] removing custom backgrounds action seems impossible to complete" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136554515:48
mptjgdx, sorry, I meant to get to those bugs today but I was interrupted with APN stuff15:50
mptjgdx, I’ve read your code and I don’t know what it does :-) Do you have a screenshot?15:51
jgdxmpt, I've updated the description, but let me get you a screenshot15:52
mptjgdx, ah, I was looking at the bug description, and then the branch description, before I got to the merge proposal description15:59
mptjgdx, anyway, I think we’ll need some text changes too. Maybe rename “Custom” to “Recent”, and change the button to “Clear Recent…” or something16:00
jgdxmpt, screenshots. Let me know if they're too small http://imgur.com/a/1fej416:00
mpt(but don’t go scrambling to implement that, I’m just thinking aloud)16:00
jgdxright, that's the sort of gold we need16:00
jgdxhm wrong order, updated16:01
jgdxit's too subtle on third glance.16:02
mptjgdx, hmm, useful but not enough, is it? Partly because the images you can’t remove end up more vivid than the ones you can. :-)16:03
jgdxmpt, true. It's not enough.16:03
mptThanks for the screenshots16:03
mptI’ll tackle this first thing tomorrow16:04
jgdxthank you16:04
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* saidinesh5 hi5s Elleo16:10
Elleosaidinesh5: heya16:10
saidinesh5hey Elleo back from your vacation?16:11
jgdxlater!16:11
Elleosaidinesh5: yep16:11
saidinesh5heh cool. how was it?16:11
Elleovery nice thanks :)16:11
saidinesh5heh coolio16:11
saidinesh5also out of curiousity, what were the changes you wanted to push to upstream?16:12
saidinesh5were they just qt 5.3 + gcc 4.9 patches?16:12
saidinesh5were they just qt 5.3 + gcc 4.9 patches??16:12
saidinesh5or something else too16:12
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Elleosaidinesh5: pretty much, there was one other change that allowed for keyboard position animations when hiding, but that was quite a minor one16:12
saidinesh5Ah okay16:13
saidinesh5so i dont think my problem lies there16:13
saidinesh5i mean i already kinda fixed those with similar patches16:13
saidinesh5the problem is the vkb isn't being hidden/shown at all16:13
saidinesh5was wondering if the inputcontext for qt isnt installed or something16:14
saidinesh5any clue about that?16:14
Elleowell maliit-server registers itself as an input handler when starting, then the QT_IM_MODULE var determines whether or not its used16:16
Elleoeverything else is core Qt stuff16:16
saidinesh5so out of curiousity why does ubuntu use qt_im_module=maliitphablet ?16:17
saidinesh5as opposed to maliit16:17
Elleosaidinesh5: I'm not sure, iirc bfiller mentioned there being some conflict in the past; but I'm not sure the details16:17
saidinesh5hmm....16:18
Elleomight have been that some maliit stuff was going to be included in Qt by default at one point?16:18
Elleomy memory's a bit fuzzy on that16:18
saidinesh5oh16:18
bfillersaidinesh5: maliit plugin was included in Qt5 and was buggy, so we provided an ubuntu specific one which required the name change16:18
saidinesh5ohhh16:18
saidinesh5makes sense, because i m beginning to think this bug seems to be in qt itself16:19
saidinesh5cuz the vkb isn't even being created for me16:19
bfillersaidinesh5: there are definitely some issues with the maliit plugin that is included in Qt516:19
saidinesh5Ahh bfiller could you point me to the fixes?16:20
Elleosaidinesh5: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/maliit-framework/utopic/view/head:/debian/patches/0001-rename_input_context.patch <-- that'll be what renames it for us16:20
Elleosaidinesh5: perhaps it'd be worth you trying something similar, incase it is conflicting with QT for your clean checkout16:21
bfillersaidinesh5: not sure what you are trying to do, but if you use maliit-framework in ubuntu and use the updated env name then you'll pick up all the changes we made16:21
saidinesh5Ah Elleo trying16:21
Elleobfiller: he's using an upstream checkout of maliit rather than the ubuntu specific stuff16:22
saidinesh5bfiller: i was trying to simply write a maliit plugin but cant even get the bundled examples from maliit to work16:22
anpok_ogra_: I have dev mode + pin entry + but adb shell is not working image 320 on manta16:31
ogra_320 ?16:34
ogra_living in the future ? :)16:34
ogra_anpok_, so latest image is 233 ... are yu on that one ?16:35
pittiogra_: so I installed current devel-proposed, went through the wizard, chose a PIN, adb doesn't come up16:42
pittiogra_: (and it again asks me for a password with text input, not for a 4-digit number; entering my 0000 works anyway to unlock it, though)16:43
ogra_pitti, it wont start magically indeed16:43
ogra_pitti, right, mterry is on that one i think16:43
ogra_pitti, enable developer mode in system-settings16:43
pittiah, dev mode is now off by default16:43
ogra_yeah :)16:43
pittiemulator-5554device16:43
pitti\o/16:43
pittiok, so that bit at least works again16:43
pittithanks ogra_!16:43
ogra_i even have an upstart jb that checks password and unsets it ... as a safety new16:43
ogra_\o/16:44
pittinow we just need to teach the --developer-mode thingy to ubuntu-emulator create16:44
ogra_yeah16:44
ogra_slowly getting there :)16:44
stgraberogra_: some of the customized channels are at > 320 for manta16:44
pittiogra_: any chance to take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/phablet-tools/network/+merge/231761 in the next days, as that becomes urgent now?16:44
ogra_stgraber, nopbody runs manta :)16:45
ogra_pitti, i have the tab open on my desktop still, never closed it ... i'll try to land it tomorrow (or if i find the time between my pam hacking for dev mode i'll try tonight)16:46
saidinesh5wow that actually seems to work16:47
anpok_ogra_: sorry 23016:47
saidinesh5even with the helloworld example plugin from maliit16:47
saidinesh5Elleo: ^16:47
ogra_anpok_, do you have any important stuff on there ? 233 has a bunch of fixes specifically for developer mode16:47
anpok_ogra_: i just flashed one hour ago .. ok will retry16:47
saidinesh5so apparently it was the buggy qt5's maliit plugin16:48
ogra_anpok_, so updating to that might already help16:48
anpok_ok16:48
ogra_if not, ping me again :)16:48
mterrypitti, sorry did you solve your password issue?16:48
pittimterry: I sometimes get a "Hello" <input line> for entering PINs, which is a bit awkward16:49
pittimterry: but I don't think it's a new regression, I've seen it happen on and off16:49
mterrypitti, ah!  That sounds like bug 1363405, which I've not had luck reproducing yet16:50
ubot5bug 1363405 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Storage of passcode vs. passphrase lock type unreliable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136340516:50
pittimterry: that's what I did:16:51
pittisudo ubuntu-emulator create --arch=i386 --channel=devel-proposed devel-proposed16:51
pittiubuntu-emulator run devel-proposed16:51
pittimterry: go through the wizard: keep English, select PIN, enter 0000, accept all the other stuff, let unity8 start16:51
pittiswipe away the greeter, find that input line16:51
* pitti reboots16:52
Elleosaidinesh5: great :)16:52
* saidinesh5 is now testing out bigger plugins16:52
saidinesh5if i can get even one of the C++/QML plugin working decently with this....16:53
pittimterry: I'll destroy/recreate to check if it reproduces16:53
mterrypitti, huh you're the second one that hit it with the emulator.  I wonder if that's easier to reproduce that way16:53
pittimterry: I'll re-do and keep precise notes in the bug16:54
mterrypitti, I'm testing that too now16:54
pittioh, seems we got a new image in between, it's again downloading16:54
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SaviqCimi, yeah, confirmed, can't get mtp or adb on manta17:04
Saviqor actually got mtp now after toggling, but no adb17:04
pittimterry: reproduced again; seems quite reliable on the emulator, I put the steps in the bug17:04
CimiSaviq, yes mtp toggles when developer mode is off17:06
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mterrypitti, yay!17:09
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Tassadarkgunn: Hi, can this get merged now? https://code.launchpad.net/~vbocek/unity-system-compositor/fix-hammerhead-backlight/+merge/23357217:23
kgunnwe'll stick it in the next mir release, should be going into a silo this afternoon17:31
Tassadaryaaaaaaaaaaay17:31
Tassadarthank you17:31
Tassadarso it will get to the images very soon, right?17:32
Tassadarand into which onces, I assume both devel(-proposed) and rtm/14.9(-proposed)?17:32
kgunnyep it'll make its way to both17:33
ogra_FSVO both17:34
ogra_rtm is ages behind with landings ... dont ecpect fixes in there fast17:34
nik90_rsalveti: hey, would bug 1364647 be related to your work on pulseaudio and the different channels as well?17:37
ubot5bug 1364647 in Ubuntu Clock App "Alarm should always be played (also) in the speakerphone even when a bluetooth or wired headset is used" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136464717:37
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nik90_rsalveti: since I am not really sure which project that bug really belongs to but presents a common user scenario17:37
rsalvetinik90_: yeah, I'm not really sure if this is a valid scenario for us17:38
rsalvetiwe can probably make it by default go to both places17:38
rsalvetibut someone requested for it to only go to the default device before17:38
rsalvetiso we need to first identify what is the exact behavior we want for utouch17:39
nik90_rsalveti: ok I can bring this to the attention of the designer and then come back to you with the intended solution.17:39
rsalvetinik90_: yeah, please17:39
rsalvetinik90_: there's a way to make it go to both output devices if needed17:39
nik90_rsalveti: does that happen with calls?17:40
rsalvetinik90_: nops, the same question would apply there17:40
nik90_good to know, I will include that as well17:40
taiebotHey all i have just confirmed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/136549217:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1365492 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "selecting previously visited site from address bar does nothing" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:45
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alecuhi all! Anybody knows why the emulator may look like this? https://www.dropbox.com/s/i7jjf0todrxw8m2/touch-emu.png?dl=018:03
matiasbhey, trying to get the emulator running (trusty, i386 arch), I'm getting this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i7jjf0todrxw8m2/touch-emu.png?dl=018:03
matiasbanyone has any idea why? or what can I do to fix this?18:03
alecuditto18:03
matiasbheh18:03
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Saviqogra_, btw, bug #136692618:38
ubot5bug 1366926 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "phablet-tools should be modular to allow integrating in custom scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136692618:38
ogra_Saviq, yay, thanks18:38
* ogra_ confirms 18:38
ogra_Saviq, i'll put it on low prio though18:38
Saviqogra_, sure18:39
Saviqogra_, I'll add a unity8 task there to use it once modular18:39
ogra_++18:39
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cyphermoxsergiusens: if you want to ack more MTP fun stuff: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/mtp/fix-1351042/+merge/23378619:28
cyphermoxthis one requires Windows though :/19:28
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sergiusenscyphermox: ho windows here...19:33
cyphermoxok19:33
cyphermoxbrb, I need to check if I have access to some Windows 8 box here as well19:34
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mterryogra_, is there a way to set up adb for the emulator from the get-go?19:55
mterrylool, what is the upgrade path for HERE?  (like my dogfood device)  You said you there was no UI for turning it on after the wizard?20:02
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sliderhey guys anyone can help me with an installation of ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7'' GT-P3110 ? i'm stucked...20:13
ogra_mterry, sorry, nnot yet20:13
sliderhey guys anyone can help me with an installation of ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7'' GT-P3110 ? i'm stucked...20:14
nhainesslider: you're probably going to have to find the XDA forum that deals with that port.20:14
slideri've tried but i got no result...20:15
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dobeypmcgowan: does indicator-power have anything to do with brightness any more? i do wish the slider was in the indicator still, but it's not there…20:17
pmcgowandobey, its supposed to be added back in for some time, I just escalated that bug20:18
nhainesslider: no one here supports or does any work on that port, so it's really up to the work that the porters have done.20:19
dobeypmcgowan: oh ok, great.20:19
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elopioping tedg: I need your help again to launch reminders using the sandbox.22:01
elopioI tried this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8266880/22:01
tedgelopio, You probably want to copy the one from ~/.local/share/applications as it has the paths setup.22:03
elopiotedg: let me see.22:03
tedgelopio, That one is just a symbolic link.22:03

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