[00:10] <shiggity> okay rsalveti nvm... I was going to backup my n5 and see if you had a new build of UT for me to try.. but I can't find my proper OTG adapter for my phone..... I guess I'll wait
[07:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:52] <Lubit> ciao ragazzi qualcuno lo ha provato su nexus 5?
[09:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !english
[09:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Lubit, :P
[09:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !italian
[09:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Literacy Day! :-D
[09:41] <justCarakas> any idea when a new devel image will be released ?
[10:18] <seb128> is there a known issue where contacts added are lost after a restart?
[10:18] <seb128> who is working on contacts?
[10:31] <ogra_> seb128, bfillers team as usual :)
[10:32] <seb128> bfiller, hey :-) see ^
[11:36] <Saviq> tvoss, hmm "Cannot get current playback position without a valid media-hub player session"?
[11:37] <Saviq> om26er, can you check if you're getting ↑ in ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log when you get the "UI halt on incoming message"?
[11:37] <om26er> Saviq, checking
[11:38]  * Saviq suspects the media backend blocks the UI thread on creation of an Audio object with no source
[11:40] <om26er> Saviq, So between the time I reported the bug, I flashed to utopic latest image on my mako. Now I don't see the UI halt because due to some reason OSD is not appearing at all
[11:41] <Saviq> om26er, ugh
[11:41] <om26er> I get the sound, I get the notification in the 'Notification center' but not OSD. So makes me think the halt comes from unity's OSD.
[11:43] <Wellark> Cimi, seb128: was there something you need from me ?
[11:43] <Wellark> my backlog does not cover all of the discussion from last week when I was on holiday
[11:44] <seb128> Wellark, mpt filed a stack of bugs on settings, some probably come from the indicator, would be nice if you could have a look/triage them/maybe fix some
[11:44] <Wellark> seb128: against which project?
[11:45] <Wellark> ubuntu-system-settings ?
[11:45] <seb128> Wellark, yes
[11:48] <Wellark> seb128: ok. I will take a look
[11:48] <seb128> Wellark, thanks
[11:49] <seb128> mardy, hey, could you have a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard-crash/+merge/233589 ?
[11:50] <Saviq> om26er, yeah, the sound is played by the backend these days, but the OSD has an Audio element, too, and that message is a new thing (and I noticed some dbus timeouts during unity8 ap testing that seems related to that media-hub message)
[11:50] <seb128> mardy, it's short, I would like to know if the change makes sense to you
[11:50] <seb128> Saviq, or you maybe ^ ;-)
[11:50] <seb128> somebody more familiar with qml behaviour than me at least
[11:51] <om26er> Saviq, media-hub-server crashed caused that message for me. I reported a bug related to that see bug 1366741
[11:51] <om26er> launchpad is retracing it, i'll make it public
[11:52] <mardy> seb128: that change is correct, the documentation of qmlRegisterSingletonType() explicitly says that the object must not be implemented as a singleton itself
[11:52] <seb128> mardy, thanks
[11:53] <seb128> asac, ^ approved that wizard fix from mterry
[11:53] <asac> thanks!
[11:53] <asac> now someone needs to land it in utopic, then we can add it to the HERE silo
[11:54] <asac> here silo for rtm
[11:54] <seb128> asac, is HERE a rtm one?
[11:54] <seb128> asac, we are a bit stucked on landing a settings update in rtm
[11:54] <seb128> qa keeps blocking us on weird bugs
[11:54] <asac> seb128: right, so QA is singing that silo off right now
[11:54] <Saviq> seb128, oh, you got tags on lp:ubuntu-system-settings, wanna my script for stripping them? ;)
[11:54] <seb128> like pin unlock not working
[11:54] <asac> seb128: 015
[11:54] <asac> hmm
[11:54] <ogra_> seb128, yeah, just ignore, who needs that :P
[11:54] <asac> didnt hear aboout that
[11:54] <seb128> asac, yes, brendad nacked that again earlier
[11:55] <seb128> asac, due to bug #1366745
[11:55] <asac> davmor2: ^
[11:55] <seb128> seems to happen only on krillin and first boot
[11:55] <seb128> could be due to the wizard
[11:55] <ogra_> didnt the wizard restart a bunch of services ?
[11:55] <ogra_> i wonder if ofono is among them
[11:55] <seb128> it does
[11:56] <ogra_> (and doesnt get a proper restart or so)
[11:56] <seb128> well, it does restart things
[11:56] <asac> hmm
[11:56] <seb128> included indicators and the osk
[11:56] <seb128> not sure about ofono
[11:56] <davmor2> asac: ah that is the one that brendand was on about then.
[11:56] <asac> so i had my indicators being black after first boot
[11:56] <seb128> but apparently that issue doesn't happen on mako
[11:57] <davmor2> asac: in the silo testing trello board you'll see that brendand had marked it failed but I had assumed this was the rebuild to fix it but obviously not.
[11:57] <asac> system settings landing is huge
[11:57] <seb128> yes
[11:57] <seb128> lot of fixes stacked there
[11:58]  * ogra_ see telephony-service landed on fiday 
[11:58] <asac> you should have landed them to rtm one by one when you landed each in utopic then you wouldnt have needed qa sign off
[11:58] <asac> if they were isloated
[11:59] <ogra_> though none of the changelog entries look like they would be massively relevant
[11:59] <asac> anyway this probably would have sneaked in then
[11:59] <ogra_> (which means nothing with todays changelogs though)
[11:59] <seb128> asac, well, we are trying to get a landed for a while
[11:59] <seb128> but we got qa to test
[11:59] <seb128> and they keep nacking
[11:59] <seb128> so delta keeps getting more
[11:59] <asac> right. you have to stop then and fix :)
[11:59] <asac> hehe
[11:59] <seb128> well, we do fix
[11:59] <seb128> but qa turnover is a bit slow
[11:59] <ogra_> seb128, well, ken has a habit of merging a ton of MPs together for system-settings landings
[11:59] <asac> someone needs to sit down and fix whatever is this about now i guess
[11:59] <seb128> we can't stop working for days
[12:00] <asac> well, lets not argue
[12:00] <seb128> ogra_, well, there is no other way to deal with the stack of bugfixes
[12:00] <ogra_> would probably be better to bite the bullet and have more to test but land them one by one
[12:00] <asac> someone has to sit down and figure whats going on here
[12:00] <seb128> right
[12:00] <seb128> that someone should be ken or jonas or mterry
[12:01] <asac> right. this stacking risks us to loose everything if we cannot figure it
[12:01] <asac> the only way to resurrect is to reset so we can land save parts again
[12:01] <asac> anyway
[12:01] <asac> lets have folks look today on this blocker
[12:01] <seb128> that shows we don't handle things in a smart way
[12:01] <seb128> we have like 15 bugfixes in there
[12:01] <seb128> we should be able to land
[12:01] <asac> right, but only those that dont cause the regression
[12:01] <seb128> even if qa has a weird issue which is happening sometimes on some devices
[12:02] <seb128> I'm unsure there is a regression
[12:02] <seb128> there is a bug that happens randomly
[12:02] <asac> i think they say its a clear regression
[12:02] <seb128> which qa happened to run into when testing
[12:02] <asac> its just on first boot after fresh install, so you haven't seen it
[12:02] <ogra_> seb128, hmm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/ofono/1.12.bzr6874+14.10.20140820.is.1.12.bzr6872+14.10.20140804-0ubuntu1
[12:02] <seb128> could be
[12:02] <asac> davmor2: is this reproducible 100%?
[12:02] <asac> davmor2: and 0% with the package before?
[12:02] <ogra_> i wonder if the developers did have the unreverted ofono around
[12:02] <seb128> asac, but settings have nothing to do with sim unlock
[12:02] <seb128> could be the wizard letting things in a weird state though
[12:02] <asac> right. so lets challenge that part
[12:03] <asac> seb128: so the wizard is crashing at the end
[12:03] <asac> right now
[12:03] <asac> seb128: see the mterry bug
[12:03] <seb128> right
[12:03] <asac> i assume that could cause weird issues
[12:03] <asac> so maybe that fix will fix this :)
[12:03] <seb128> could be leading to the weird state
[12:03] <seb128> right
[12:03] <seb128> well, let's land that into utopic
[12:03] <davmor2> asac: I'll need to grab my locked sim and find out, but first Luch has just been called.  So as soon as I get back I'll look into it
[12:03] <asac> right
[12:03] <seb128> then get qa to test that version
[12:03] <asac> right. i think adding that one doesnt matter :)
[12:03] <asac> the pile is already big enough
[12:03] <asac> hehe
[12:04] <Cimi> Wellark, seb128 it was related to the wifi page
[12:04] <Cimi> Wellark, icons, wifi strength, they are gone
[12:04] <Cimi> Wellark, you can take inspiration from the wifi page of the wizard I redid last week
[12:08] <iahmad> Anyone here who could help me with phablet-screenshot on rtm build, getting an error 'Failed to connect to server. Error was :Failed to connect to server socket'
[12:10] <Wellark> Cimi: I don't want to touch it.. ping pat, it's his team working on the settings ;)
[12:11] <Wellark> Cimi: you have a bug number or something?
[12:20] <ogra_> pitti, wrt bug 1365990 ... do yoou still see the device offline in recent utopic images ?
[12:21] <asac> mterry: :)
[12:22] <asac> mterry: two tings... seems the previous system-settings silo for got stuck because it triggered some weird thing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1366745
[12:22] <asac> could this be caused by the crash too?
[12:22] <ogra_> iahmad, with the very latest phablet-tools installed ?
[12:23] <iahmad> ogra_, yes
[12:23] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~$ phablet-screenshot shot.png
[12:23] <ogra_> I: Dumping fb0 ...
[12:23] <ogra_> 4386 KB/s (3932160 bytes in 0.875s)
[12:23] <ogra_> I: Done
[12:23] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~$ eog shot.png
[12:23] <ogra_> hmm, works fine here
[12:23] <mterry> asac, let me see
[12:23] <ogra_> (mako, latest utopic)
[12:24] <ogra_> iahmad, oh, you said rtm ... one sec
[12:24] <iahmad> ogra_, I am on krillin, rtm, if that makes any diff?
[12:24] <asac> mterry: ubuntu-rtm/landing-015 - ubuntu-system-settings : mterry in list Under Testing
[12:24] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~$ phablet-screenshot shot.png
[12:24] <ogra_> I: Dumping fb0 ...
[12:24] <ogra_> 5236 KB/s (2073600 bytes in 0.386s)
[12:24] <ogra_> I: Done
[12:24] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~$
[12:24] <asac> thats the silo that bounced (has a quite a few things piled up)
[12:25] <ogra_> iahmad, same thing ... hmm
[12:25] <iahmad> ogra_, dpkg -l phablet-tools?
[12:25] <ogra_> (and nothing in phablet-screenshot or Mir changed in that area)
[12:25] <mterry> asac, the crash shouldn't be related...  I'm confused on that one -- I would have said it's due to the race I fixed between lightdm and systemd-shim on Friday.  But they say this is only introduced by upgrading USS...
[12:26] <ogra_> iahmad, 1.1+14.10.20140905-0ubuntu1 .... but phblet-screenshot didnt change in a month or so
[12:26] <asac> mterry: yeah. davmor2 will triple check after lunch
[12:26] <asac> mterry: maybe the other fixes are in other rtm silos? e.g. should be bundled into one?
[12:26] <asac> mterry: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=
[12:27] <asac> mterry: there is 016 -> systemd-shim for instance
[12:27] <ogra_> mterry, systemd-shim wasnt merged to rtm yet i think
[12:27] <mterry> asac, the race fix is in distro's systemd-shim package (something we get from Debian) -- will that automatically be imported to rtm, or do we have to file sync requests for non-CI packages?
[12:28] <asac> mterry: you have to land them through requesting a silo
[12:28] <asac> that will soruce copy the bits from utopic into rtm silo
[12:28] <asac> that you want
[12:28] <mterry> asac, ok, and there's a rtm-016 silo for it already?
[12:28] <asac> mterry: talk to ogra about what you need
[12:28] <asac> right. that seems empty though
[12:28] <asac> Mirv: ogra_: ^^?
[12:28] <ogra_> to me ?
[12:28] <asac> ogra_: yes, sil said you are in charge, no?
[12:28]  * ogra_ doesnt do silos 
[12:29] <ogra_> asac, silos is Mirv
[12:29] <asac> Mirv: ^^ :)
[12:29] <ogra_> i run the meeting (well, and didnt today either due to browser issues)
[12:29] <asac> ogra_: ok, thought you are the man doing it in the morning
[12:29] <ogra_> yeah, meeings etc
[12:29] <asac> ogra_: guess by running meeting you are at least the driver
[12:29] <asac> and take requests like that and help find someone
[12:30] <ogra_> right i'm just not that experienced with the silo bits
[12:30] <ogra_> so i leave that to someone who is (technically i have the power .... but dont even know the sync tools etc for rtm silos)
[12:30] <Mirv> asac: trying to get it built, the job has failed the previous time
[12:32] <Mirv> eh, that's a bit special package, I guess I'll copy manually. "http://people.gnome.org/~desrt/ failed: 500 Can't connect to people.gnome.org:80 (timeout)"
[12:32] <Mirv> (while running uscan)
[12:33] <ogra_> wow
[12:33] <ogra_> how woould that ever build ?
[12:33] <ogra_> buildds cannt see the internets ...
[12:33] <ogra_> *cannot
[12:34] <Mirv> ok it's building now at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-016/+packages
[12:40] <pitti> ogra_: I'll check ASAP
[12:40] <pitti> ogra_: ah, you uploded the dh_installinit fix?
[12:41] <ogra_> pitti, _installudev ... but yeah :)
[12:41] <ogra_> dev mode improved a lot on the weekend
[12:42] <ogra_> last remaining bit is a pam helper i'm knitting atm
[12:42] <ogra_> so that the unsetting of the password disables dev mode alongside
[12:51] <Saviq> ogra_, while I agree I'd rather not re-impl phablet-tools, I'd need to be able to import and use parts of it, as the script we have is really tailored towards what we need from it to dev unity8 on the device
[12:51] <tvoss> Saviq, where do you see that?
[12:51] <Saviq> tvoss, unity8.log
[12:52] <tvoss> Saviq, interesting. I did not land anything to the image
[12:52] <Saviq> tvoss, well, not any more, maybe what om26er said that it's when the media hub crashed
[12:52] <tvoss> Saviq, there was a recent media hub landing that introduced an audio role
[12:53] <ogra_> Saviq, well, we should merge the missing bits into phablet-tools where possible ... and use phablet-config for all bits not on the device ... Saviq thats not the reason why i marked it "needs fixing" though ... thats just the unlock code
[12:53] <ogra_> Saviq, the merge is rather a long term thing i think
[13:00] <Saviq> ogra_, a lot of the missing bits I don't think make sense in a generic tool in general
[13:00] <ogra_> Saviq, well, the package installation should be maintained in a single place
[13:01] <ogra_> you should just call the right phablet-config command for it
[13:01] <Saviq> ogra_, sure, but then we create and install a -build-deps package
[13:01] <Saviq> ogra_, so we need the sudo in any case, I can move the apt-get to phablet-config sure
[13:01] <ogra_> then there should be a phablet-config get-build-deps ;)
[13:01] <Saviq> ogra_, except we need to build them from source, not from distro
[13:01] <Saviq> ogra_, because source might be different than what's in distro
[13:02] <ogra_> Saviq, phablet-config has the sudo bits ... and it would be really helpful to only have to maintain changed to in in one single place
[13:02] <Saviq> ogra_, sure, totally agree with that
[13:02] <Saviq> ogra_, that's why I said maybe we need an importable module that will deal with that
[13:02] <Saviq> ogra_, and any custom things we need to do in the script we can use the common bits for anyway
[13:02] <ogra_> phablet-config writable-image --packagedir stuffs your source deb in place btw
[13:02] <ogra_> from a dir on your PC
[13:03] <Saviq> yeah, we rsync to be a lil' faster
[13:03] <ogra_> (doesnt install build-deps but thats something we coudl/should add)
[13:03] <ogra_> and switching to rsync wouldnt be an issue either :)
[13:03] <Saviq> ogra_, sure, I just don't think everything should get into phablet-tools
[13:03] <ogra_> i think it should
[13:04] <Saviq> ogra_, ah and your needs fixin' is just for the sudo -u phablet -i?
[13:04] <ogra_> right
[13:04] <ogra_> the other stuff is meant long term
[13:04] <Saviq> ogra_, ok, will fix, and will use phablet-tools where possible
[13:04] <ogra_> the good thing about phablet-tools is that they are not bound to any schdule or archive
[13:05] <ogra_> we can change that after rtm ... they live in a PPA
[13:08] <nerochiaro> dobey: hi, I've been told you are the person to talk to for questions about the click scope. do you have a minute ? or can you point to someone who can help me if it's not you ?
[13:11] <dobey> nerochiaro: just ask :)
[13:12] <nik90_> tvoss: hi, hope you had a nice weekend. Were you able to check if the source error signals are fired correctly when the location service is disabled and when the user denied clock app access to location services in the dialog prompt?
[13:13] <tvoss> nik90_, yeah, had a nice weekend. will likely get to it tomorrow
[13:13] <nik90_> tvoss: thnx
[13:25] <vesar> hey how can I make my phone file system writeable these days? touch /userdata/.writable_image && reboot fails for me saying "permission denied"
[13:34] <kenvandine> vesar, phablet-config writable-image
[13:34] <kenvandine> vesar, should work
[13:34] <kenvandine> if you are running devel-proposed you might need to enable developer mode and set a pin
[13:36] <bfiller> seb128: yes that is known issue we are working https://bugs.launchpad.net/address-book-service/+bug/1347557
[13:37] <seb128> bfiller, thanks
[13:37] <Saviq> ogra_, complaint about phablet-config -p... no output and forced reboot...
[13:38] <ogra_> Saviq, right, thats the purpose ... we need to split that inot two commands long term
[13:38] <nerochiaro> bfiller: do you know what else needs to be done for this to be merged ? https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/gallery-app-new-album-i18n/+merge/233018
[13:38] <ogra_> (they are bound together to make 100% sure the rootfs is writable before trying to install anything)
[13:39] <bfiller> nerochiaro: nothing, it's in the silo
[13:40] <nerochiaro> bfiller: ok, thanks
[13:44] <vesar> kenvandine, I think it worked since QtCreator shows that I have writeable image now. But my adb push still fails when pushing to /usr/share/unity8/... Any idea?
[13:44] <kenvandine> vesar, have you enabled developer mode?  and are you running devel-proposed?
[13:45] <vesar> yes, and yes
[13:45] <kenvandine> do you see it with adb devices ?
[13:45] <vesar> kenvandine, yes
[13:46] <kenvandine> ok, then i don't know... ogra_ ^^
[13:47] <ogra_> adbd runs as phablet user
[13:47] <ogra_> it wont have write permission to system dirs
[13:48] <vesar> ogra_, it used to work.
[13:48] <ogra_> adb push to the phablet homedir ... then use something like: adb shell "echo $mypassword| sudo -S cp $sourcedir $targetdir"
[13:48] <ogra_> vesar, yes, and it will no more
[13:48] <ogra_> by design
[13:49] <tedg> kenvandine, Could you point a couple pointers to Content Hub on bug 1366217 ?
[13:50] <vesar> ogra_, ok. my prototype design just keeps getting more difficult:) to test new edge prototypes I need to modify some of the shell components so that I have access to device edges from my prototype.
[13:51] <ogra_> vesar, you could just push an /etc/sudoers.d/myproject fiel in place that sets NOPASSWD for the phablet user if this is solely for testing
[13:52] <ogra_> annd then just prefix all root related commands with sudo (passwordless)
[13:56] <kenvandine> tedg, commented
[13:56] <dobey> cjwatson: do you know why clicks installed in /opt would get preferred, even if the ones in /usr/share/click/preinstalled are newer?
[13:57] <tedg> kenvandine, Thanks!
[13:57] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, jgdx are one of you fixing the phone number display for dual sim?
[13:58] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, i didn't realize it was broken... it worked when i tested it
[13:58] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, oh already done then
[13:58] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, i'm trying to get a handle on why settings failed QA verification for rtm again
[13:58] <pmcgowan> new request to move to a different panel
[13:59] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, bah
[13:59] <kenvandine> they found a crash in the wizard... which seems location related
[13:59] <kenvandine> the location service crashes too
[13:59] <kenvandine> but... the crash isn't obvious... it seems to be at the end
[13:59] <kenvandine> but it does leave a crash file
[13:59] <pmcgowan> wonder if inconsistent landings/deps
[13:59] <pmcgowan> if its only on rtm
[14:00] <pmcgowan> recent location service work landed I believe
[14:00] <kenvandine> they also said that SIM pin locking failed... and the cellular panel generally didn't work
[14:00] <kenvandine> but... works for me on rtm
[14:00] <kenvandine> and... i don't think anything changed in the cellular panel since the last rtm landing
[14:00] <pmcgowan> nope
[14:00] <kenvandine> it's a big pile of changes waiting to sync, but nothing in cellular
[14:01] <jgdx> pmcgowan, note that the phone numbers only display if they're actually on the SIM.
[14:01] <pmcgowan> jgdx, ack
[14:01] <kenvandine> after trying again, i did find the .crash files for location and the wizard
[14:01] <kenvandine> which was easy to miss before
[14:01] <pmcgowan> what does wizard do with location?
[14:01] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, i'm going to test for that on utopic-proposed this morning
[14:02] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, accepts the HERE terms
[14:02] <kenvandine> and enables something
[14:02] <pmcgowan> sounds like something else needs to land in backend
[14:02] <kenvandine> that's all part of the delta between utopic-proposed and rtm
[14:02] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, ok let me know if I can help test/debug
[14:02] <vesar> ogra_, this is all indeed just for testing purposes. ok managed to push my changed file to a correct place with this: adb shell "echo $mypassword| sudo -S cp $sourcedir $targetdir"
[14:03] <ogra_> yeah, that will work
[14:03] <vesar> ogra_, but have no idea what all that  /etc/sudoers.d/myproject etc. means. I'll consult ondrej..:)
[14:19] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: another problem with qtcreator after recent updates is that i can't ssh into the device anymore. how can i check what error is it giving ?
[14:19] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: when i click on the buttons in qtc a console just flashes briefly but i can't read what's wrong
[14:19] <ogra_> nerochiaro, adb shell "android-gadget-service enable ssh"
[14:20] <ogra_> that will turn on ssh
[14:20] <ogra_> (the SDK should have code for this though)
[14:20] <zbenjamin> ogra_: only if developer mode is enabled
[14:20] <ogra_> zbenjamin, which you indeed want for development :)
[14:20] <zbenjamin> ogra_: yeah i would agree on that ;)
[14:21] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: so is developer mode enabled on your phone? password is set?
[14:25] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: dev mode is on, pincode is set
[14:25] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: if i try to manually ssh into the device it tells me publickey auth failed
[14:26] <ogra_> nerochiaro, you need to copy your key in place
[14:26] <nerochiaro> ogra_: i did that
[14:26] <nerochiaro> ogra_: also, the gadget service gives me this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8290917/
[14:26] <ogra_> sure it is the right key ?
[14:27] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: can you tell me the port that is forwarded to 22 in adb forward --list
[14:27] <nerochiaro> ogra_: well, i put in both the one is have in .ssh and the one in /home/nerochiaro/.config/ubuntu-sdk/ubuntudevice_id_rsa.pub just to be sure
[14:28] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8290929/
[14:28] <ogra_> nerochiaro, you only need it in /home/phablet/.ssh/authorized_keys
[14:28] <ogra_> afaik
[14:28] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: ssh -i ~/.config/ubuntu-sdk/ubuntudevice_id_rsa -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -p 10000 phablet@localhost
[14:29] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: permission denied (publickey)
[14:29] <nerochiaro> ogra_: i put it in /home/phablet/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[14:29] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: do you still have ubuntudevice keys in ~/.ssh?
[14:30] <ogra_> nerochiaro, what device image is that on btw ? (wondering about the gadget-service issue)
[14:30] <zbenjamin> ogra_: what is the gadget service btw
[14:31] <ogra_> zbenjamin, well, initially it was only to set properties for the USB gadget driver (en/disable adb, rndis or mtp) ... it kind of grew in all directions now though ... and now its simply a dbus service for all bits the phablet user needs permission to do
[14:32] <ogra_> i guess a rename is in order at some point :)
[14:32] <zbenjamin> ogra_: ah good to know thanks !
[14:33] <ogra_> hmm, and in fact i just notice that the help message needs updating, it doesnt list all options yet
[14:33] <asac> sergiusens: out of the list of packages to move to custom, which ones are not click? wanted to split the bugs up in two
[14:33] <asac> one for all the clicks that can move in one shot
[14:34] <asac> and another for each of the others that need work
[14:34] <ogra_> asac, note that we lose all citrain ability for such apps
[14:34] <ogra_> (we cant land clicks via the train yet)
[14:39] <sergiusens> asac:  where is the list?
[14:39] <sergiusens> asac: sorry, I think I asked for a bug with the list or a link to it
[14:39] <nerochiaro> ogra_: 29, from the rtm channel
[14:39] <sergiusens> didn't see a response to that
[14:39] <ogra_> nerochiaro, oh, the new developer mode did not land in rtm yet
[14:40] <nerochiaro> ogra_: oh, so i can't get ssh there ?
[14:40] <ogra_> nerochiaro, this should still all behave exactly like it used to
[14:40] <nerochiaro> ogra_: not really
[14:40] <ogra_> well, not my fault at least :)
[14:40] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: in ~/.ssh on the device ? no
[14:41] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: and also not on the desktop
[14:41] <padhu> Hi ubuntians, anybody tried Ubuntu for android in Moto E XT1022?
[14:41] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: on your local machine
[14:41] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: that looks like you have the corrent ssh key not on the device.
[14:42] <popey> padhu: ubuntu for android was never released, so no.
[14:42] <padhu> ubuntu-touch?
[14:42] <popey> padhu: can you use more words if you're going to ask a question? ☻
[14:42] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: i asked qtc to put it there but i guess it failed
[14:42] <padhu> popey: I brought Moto E, I want Ubuntu software for that mobile.
[14:43] <popey> !devices | padhu
[14:43] <padhu> If it is available and working, I am really happy
[14:43] <popey> i dont know, but there's various devices listed on that page
[14:44] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: can you backup your authorized_keys and remove it, then tell qtc again to put it there
[14:44] <padhu> I am looking
[14:46] <mpt> Wellark, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/184101773/Other%20network.png
[14:46] <padhu> I am not not lucky, It is available for Moto G
[14:56] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: should it be authorized_keys or authorized_keys2
[14:56] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: ?
[14:59] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: ah you are using phablet-shell
[14:59] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: the problem with phablet-shell is that is just copies away the authorized keys and replaces it with a new file
[14:59] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: am ?
[14:59] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: i'm not using the phablet-shell command directly
[15:00] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: so if you phablet-shell in after QtC has detected your phone you will break the authorized_keys
[15:00] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: weird
[15:01] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: i removed the file authorized_keys2, then asked qtc to put the keys, and it created a new authorized_keys2
[15:01] <zbenjamin> let me check that
[15:01] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: but still can't connect
[15:02] <zbenjamin> let me check that
[15:03] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: hmm it seems to be authorized_keys2
[15:03] <cjwatson> dobey: version comparison doesn't come into it; it depends which is the top layer registered for the user in question.  I need to put some more thought into the interaction of image upgrades and individual app upgrades from the store, though, which I expect is what you're referring to
[15:04] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: what happens if you remove the authorized_keys file?
[15:07] <dobey> cjwatson: yes. it seems that if one installs an update for a pre-installed app, and then upgrades to a new image later which has a newer version of the app, there's possibility for the older version to be what is registered for the user
[15:08] <cjwatson> dobey: right; for now a counterintuitive workaround is to uninstall the app once (which actually just removes the top layer, unless somebody "broke" that :) )
[15:08] <cjwatson> but I recognise this needs more work, somewhere
[15:09] <dobey> cjwatson: is there a bug open already?
[15:10] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: i have authorized_keys, just the 2
[15:10] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: remove everything that is called authorizes_keys and try again...... Probably restart the phone
[15:11] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: this is clearly a ssh key issue, i have no idea where its coming from.... probably try to connect with the verbose switch
[15:11] <cjwatson> dobey: I think bug 1342858 is the same thing
[15:16] <dobey> cjwatson: ok, added a comment about the older versions being preferred issue
[15:16] <dobey> thanks
[15:17] <dobey> ok, need to go to lunch. bbiab
[15:46] <jgdx> mpt, ping
[15:48] <jgdx> mpt, I've created bug 1365545 – and a potential fix. But hopefully you have a better idea. Thanks
[15:50] <mpt> jgdx, sorry, I meant to get to those bugs today but I was interrupted with APN stuff
[15:51] <mpt> jgdx, I’ve read your code and I don’t know what it does :-) Do you have a screenshot?
[15:52] <jgdx> mpt, I've updated the description, but let me get you a screenshot
[15:59] <mpt> jgdx, ah, I was looking at the bug description, and then the branch description, before I got to the merge proposal description
[16:00] <mpt> jgdx, anyway, I think we’ll need some text changes too. Maybe rename “Custom” to “Recent”, and change the button to “Clear Recent…” or something
[16:00] <jgdx> mpt, screenshots. Let me know if they're too small http://imgur.com/a/1fej4
[16:00] <mpt> (but don’t go scrambling to implement that, I’m just thinking aloud)
[16:00] <jgdx> right, that's the sort of gold we need
[16:01] <jgdx> hm wrong order, updated
[16:02] <jgdx> it's too subtle on third glance.
[16:03] <mpt> jgdx, hmm, useful but not enough, is it? Partly because the images you can’t remove end up more vivid than the ones you can. :-)
[16:03] <jgdx> mpt, true. It's not enough.
[16:03] <mpt> Thanks for the screenshots
[16:04] <mpt> I’ll tackle this first thing tomorrow
[16:04] <jgdx> thank you
[16:10]  * saidinesh5 hi5s Elleo
[16:10] <Elleo> saidinesh5: heya
[16:11] <saidinesh5> hey Elleo back from your vacation?
[16:11] <jgdx> later!
[16:11] <Elleo> saidinesh5: yep
[16:11] <saidinesh5> heh cool. how was it?
[16:11] <Elleo> very nice thanks :)
[16:11] <saidinesh5> heh coolio
[16:12] <saidinesh5> also out of curiousity, what were the changes you wanted to push to upstream?
[16:12] <saidinesh5> were they just qt 5.3 + gcc 4.9 patches?
[16:12] <saidinesh5> were they just qt 5.3 + gcc 4.9 patches??
[16:12] <saidinesh5> or something else too
[16:12] <Elleo> saidinesh5: pretty much, there was one other change that allowed for keyboard position animations when hiding, but that was quite a minor one
[16:13] <saidinesh5> Ah okay
[16:13] <saidinesh5> so i dont think my problem lies there
[16:13] <saidinesh5> i mean i already kinda fixed those with similar patches
[16:13] <saidinesh5> the problem is the vkb isn't being hidden/shown at all
[16:14] <saidinesh5> was wondering if the inputcontext for qt isnt installed or something
[16:14] <saidinesh5> any clue about that?
[16:16] <Elleo> well maliit-server registers itself as an input handler when starting, then the QT_IM_MODULE var determines whether or not its used
[16:16] <Elleo> everything else is core Qt stuff
[16:17] <saidinesh5> so out of curiousity why does ubuntu use qt_im_module=maliitphablet ?
[16:17] <saidinesh5> as opposed to maliit
[16:17] <Elleo> saidinesh5: I'm not sure, iirc bfiller mentioned there being some conflict in the past; but I'm not sure the details
[16:18] <saidinesh5> hmm....
[16:18] <Elleo> might have been that some maliit stuff was going to be included in Qt by default at one point?
[16:18] <Elleo> my memory's a bit fuzzy on that
[16:18] <saidinesh5> oh
[16:18] <bfiller> saidinesh5: maliit plugin was included in Qt5 and was buggy, so we provided an ubuntu specific one which required the name change
[16:18] <saidinesh5> ohhh
[16:19] <saidinesh5> makes sense, because i m beginning to think this bug seems to be in qt itself
[16:19] <saidinesh5> cuz the vkb isn't even being created for me
[16:19] <bfiller> saidinesh5: there are definitely some issues with the maliit plugin that is included in Qt5
[16:20] <saidinesh5> Ahh bfiller could you point me to the fixes?
[16:20] <Elleo> saidinesh5: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/maliit-framework/utopic/view/head:/debian/patches/0001-rename_input_context.patch <-- that'll be what renames it for us
[16:21] <Elleo> saidinesh5: perhaps it'd be worth you trying something similar, incase it is conflicting with QT for your clean checkout
[16:21] <bfiller> saidinesh5: not sure what you are trying to do, but if you use maliit-framework in ubuntu and use the updated env name then you'll pick up all the changes we made
[16:21] <saidinesh5> Ah Elleo trying
[16:22] <Elleo> bfiller: he's using an upstream checkout of maliit rather than the ubuntu specific stuff
[16:22] <saidinesh5> bfiller: i was trying to simply write a maliit plugin but cant even get the bundled examples from maliit to work
[16:31] <anpok_> ogra_: I have dev mode + pin entry + but adb shell is not working image 320 on manta
[16:34] <ogra_> 320 ?
[16:34] <ogra_> living in the future ? :)
[16:35] <ogra_> anpok_, so latest image is 233 ... are yu on that one ?
[16:42] <pitti> ogra_: so I installed current devel-proposed, went through the wizard, chose a PIN, adb doesn't come up
[16:43] <pitti> ogra_: (and it again asks me for a password with text input, not for a 4-digit number; entering my 0000 works anyway to unlock it, though)
[16:43] <ogra_> pitti, it wont start magically indeed
[16:43] <ogra_> pitti, right, mterry is on that one i think
[16:43] <ogra_> pitti, enable developer mode in system-settings
[16:43] <pitti> ah, dev mode is now off by default
[16:43] <ogra_> yeah :)
[16:43] <pitti> emulator-5554device
[16:43] <pitti> \o/
[16:43] <pitti> ok, so that bit at least works again
[16:43] <pitti> thanks ogra_!
[16:43] <ogra_> i even have an upstart jb that checks password and unsets it ... as a safety new
[16:44] <ogra_> \o/
[16:44] <pitti> now we just need to teach the --developer-mode thingy to ubuntu-emulator create
[16:44] <ogra_> yeah
[16:44] <ogra_> slowly getting there :)
[16:44] <stgraber> ogra_: some of the customized channels are at > 320 for manta
[16:44] <pitti> ogra_: any chance to take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/phablet-tools/network/+merge/231761 in the next days, as that becomes urgent now?
[16:45] <ogra_> stgraber, nopbody runs manta :)
[16:46] <ogra_> pitti, i have the tab open on my desktop still, never closed it ... i'll try to land it tomorrow (or if i find the time between my pam hacking for dev mode i'll try tonight)
[16:47] <saidinesh5> wow that actually seems to work
[16:47] <anpok_> ogra_: sorry 230
[16:47] <saidinesh5> even with the helloworld example plugin from maliit
[16:47] <saidinesh5> Elleo: ^
[16:47] <ogra_> anpok_, do you have any important stuff on there ? 233 has a bunch of fixes specifically for developer mode
[16:47] <anpok_> ogra_: i just flashed one hour ago .. ok will retry
[16:48] <saidinesh5> so apparently it was the buggy qt5's maliit plugin
[16:48] <ogra_> anpok_, so updating to that might already help
[16:48] <anpok_> ok
[16:48] <ogra_> if not, ping me again :)
[16:48] <mterry> pitti, sorry did you solve your password issue?
[16:49] <pitti> mterry: I sometimes get a "Hello" <input line> for entering PINs, which is a bit awkward
[16:49] <pitti> mterry: but I don't think it's a new regression, I've seen it happen on and off
[16:50] <mterry> pitti, ah!  That sounds like bug 1363405, which I've not had luck reproducing yet
[16:51] <pitti> mterry: that's what I did:
[16:51] <pitti> sudo ubuntu-emulator create --arch=i386 --channel=devel-proposed devel-proposed
[16:51] <pitti> ubuntu-emulator run devel-proposed
[16:51] <pitti> mterry: go through the wizard: keep English, select PIN, enter 0000, accept all the other stuff, let unity8 start
[16:51] <pitti> swipe away the greeter, find that input line
[16:52]  * pitti reboots
[16:52] <Elleo> saidinesh5: great :)
[16:52]  * saidinesh5 is now testing out bigger plugins
[16:53] <saidinesh5> if i can get even one of the C++/QML plugin working decently with this....
[16:53] <pitti> mterry: I'll destroy/recreate to check if it reproduces
[16:53] <mterry> pitti, huh you're the second one that hit it with the emulator.  I wonder if that's easier to reproduce that way
[16:54] <pitti> mterry: I'll re-do and keep precise notes in the bug
[16:54] <mterry> pitti, I'm testing that too now
[16:54] <pitti> oh, seems we got a new image in between, it's again downloading
[17:04] <Saviq> Cimi, yeah, confirmed, can't get mtp or adb on manta
[17:04] <Saviq> or actually got mtp now after toggling, but no adb
[17:04] <pitti> mterry: reproduced again; seems quite reliable on the emulator, I put the steps in the bug
[17:06] <Cimi> Saviq, yes mtp toggles when developer mode is off
[17:09] <mterry> pitti, yay!
[17:23] <Tassadar> kgunn: Hi, can this get merged now? https://code.launchpad.net/~vbocek/unity-system-compositor/fix-hammerhead-backlight/+merge/233572
[17:31] <kgunn> we'll stick it in the next mir release, should be going into a silo this afternoon
[17:31] <Tassadar> yaaaaaaaaaaay
[17:31] <Tassadar> thank you
[17:32] <Tassadar> so it will get to the images very soon, right?
[17:32] <Tassadar> and into which onces, I assume both devel(-proposed) and rtm/14.9(-proposed)?
[17:33] <kgunn> yep it'll make its way to both
[17:34] <ogra_> FSVO both
[17:34] <ogra_> rtm is ages behind with landings ... dont ecpect fixes in there fast
[17:37] <nik90_> rsalveti: hey, would bug 1364647 be related to your work on pulseaudio and the different channels as well?
[17:37] <nik90_> rsalveti: since I am not really sure which project that bug really belongs to but presents a common user scenario
[17:38] <rsalveti> nik90_: yeah, I'm not really sure if this is a valid scenario for us
[17:38] <rsalveti> we can probably make it by default go to both places
[17:38] <rsalveti> but someone requested for it to only go to the default device before
[17:39] <rsalveti> so we need to first identify what is the exact behavior we want for utouch
[17:39] <nik90_> rsalveti: ok I can bring this to the attention of the designer and then come back to you with the intended solution.
[17:39] <rsalveti> nik90_: yeah, please
[17:39] <rsalveti> nik90_: there's a way to make it go to both output devices if needed
[17:40] <nik90_> rsalveti: does that happen with calls?
[17:40] <rsalveti> nik90_: nops, the same question would apply there
[17:40] <nik90_> good to know, I will include that as well
[17:45] <taiebot> Hey all i have just confirmed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1365492
[18:03] <alecu> hi all! Anybody knows why the emulator may look like this? https://www.dropbox.com/s/i7jjf0todrxw8m2/touch-emu.png?dl=0
[18:03] <matiasb> hey, trying to get the emulator running (trusty, i386 arch), I'm getting this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i7jjf0todrxw8m2/touch-emu.png?dl=0
[18:03] <matiasb> anyone has any idea why? or what can I do to fix this?
[18:03] <alecu> ditto
[18:03] <matiasb> heh
[18:38] <Saviq> ogra_, btw, bug #1366926
[18:38] <ogra_> Saviq, yay, thanks
[18:38]  * ogra_ confirms 
[18:38] <ogra_> Saviq, i'll put it on low prio though
[18:39] <Saviq> ogra_, sure
[18:39] <Saviq> ogra_, I'll add a unity8 task there to use it once modular
[18:39] <ogra_> ++
[19:28] <cyphermox> sergiusens: if you want to ack more MTP fun stuff: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/mtp/fix-1351042/+merge/233786
[19:28] <cyphermox> this one requires Windows though :/
[19:33] <sergiusens> cyphermox: ho windows here...
[19:33] <cyphermox> ok
[19:34] <cyphermox> brb, I need to check if I have access to some Windows 8 box here as well
[19:55] <mterry> ogra_, is there a way to set up adb for the emulator from the get-go?
[20:02] <mterry> lool, what is the upgrade path for HERE?  (like my dogfood device)  You said you there was no UI for turning it on after the wizard?
[20:13] <slider> hey guys anyone can help me with an installation of ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7'' GT-P3110 ? i'm stucked...
[20:13] <ogra_> mterry, sorry, nnot yet
[20:14] <slider> hey guys anyone can help me with an installation of ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7'' GT-P3110 ? i'm stucked...
[20:14] <nhaines> slider: you're probably going to have to find the XDA forum that deals with that port.
[20:15] <slider> i've tried but i got no result...
[20:17] <dobey> pmcgowan: does indicator-power have anything to do with brightness any more? i do wish the slider was in the indicator still, but it's not there…
[20:18] <pmcgowan> dobey, its supposed to be added back in for some time, I just escalated that bug
[20:19] <nhaines> slider: no one here supports or does any work on that port, so it's really up to the work that the porters have done.
[20:19] <dobey> pmcgowan: oh ok, great.
[22:01] <elopio> ping tedg: I need your help again to launch reminders using the sandbox.
[22:01] <elopio> I tried this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8266880/
[22:03] <tedg> elopio, You probably want to copy the one from ~/.local/share/applications as it has the paths setup.
[22:03] <elopio> tedg: let me see.
[22:03] <tedg> elopio, That one is just a symbolic link.