=== izdubar is now known as MarkDude [01:08] Roguehorse, I should ask Rick if I can get a Tour Shirt [01:10] * MarkDude would suggest what the shirts might say- but there is a CoC in this channel. I will tell him next time I see him- its been too long [01:10] :D [01:24] :-P [01:25] Go easy on the guy - I like Rick, he's very cool in my book [01:27] Anyone have thoughts on Google and Yahoo doing end-to-end encryption now? [01:27] doubleplusgood. [01:28] okies, packing up from debian hack time so I can go home for our meeting in a bit [01:34] I find the idea interesting and was listening to Security Now! to get S.Gibsons thoughts ... we'll see how it turns out [01:36] It's nice if your threat model doesn't include Google or Yahoo being compromised but does include the link between them and whichever mailserver you care about being compromised. [01:36] unless they actually implement trustable end-to-end crypto where they don't have knowledge of the private key, which means they use javascript, which means... meh. [01:38] oh, gmail is going to use a Chrome extension (meh). what's Yahoo doing? [01:38] I heard it's all based on javascript which is something of a concern to do it right [01:38] rww: java applet. [01:38] not sure how Yahoo is implementing [01:39] i guess this is another of those security - convenience tradeoff situations [01:39] I would suspect same since they are getting code from Google [01:40] LOL! Always! [01:40] I think a lot of it comes from trying to get people to have trust in their mail systems again rather than turn to alternatives like DarkMail [01:41] Roguehorse, you have any thoughts on his new security via QR codes? [01:59] almost meeting time [02:00] meeting time :) [02:00] #startmeeting [02:00] Meeting started Mon Sep 8 02:00:24 2014 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [02:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [02:00] ok, who all is here for the meeting? [02:00] \o [02:00] \o [02:00] \o_ [02:00] \o [02:00] cool [02:01] rww: stop playing Final Fantasy and join us. :P [02:01] i'm playing final fantasy 7, but elky can poke me if need be [02:01] be quiet nhaines :P [02:01] Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14September07 [02:01] haha [02:01] Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14September07 - Ubuntu Wiki] [02:01] busted lol [02:01] #chair rww [02:01] Current chairs: pleia2 rww [02:01] #topic Software Freedom Day plans [02:02] so grantbow emailed Sameer on the 24th about SFSU plans, who replied "updates coming soon" [02:02] afaik, there haven't been any yet [02:02] but they typically do an on campus thing some weekday that a few folks from the team go to [02:02] any other areas have anything? [02:02] oh, I was going to contact him to see if he needed help or anything and got sidetracked [02:02] hehe [02:03] I sent an email to Hurricane and never heard back [02:03] well, we're trying :) [02:03] oh hi [02:03] hi [02:04] jyo works at Hurricane, so maybe chats can happen? :) [02:05] The next OCLUG meeting is technically on SFD. So we probably should have planned something. [02:05] ?? Hmm .... sure! [02:05] * ianorlin doesn't know the topic of next OCLUG meeting [02:06] They don't have topics unless there's a presentation. [02:06] ah [02:08] (crickets) [02:09] hehe, ok, next topic then [02:09] #topic CaliforniaTeam/Leadership Election [02:09] so this isn't until December strictly speaking, but I want to put it in people's minds early [02:09] pleia2: Your the president! - next topic [02:09] nah, she needs a break [02:09] :-) [02:09] you may notice that I miss about half the meetings, I'm traveling a lot and work is taking up a lot of my time, so I probably want to not play leader anymore [02:10] plus Iwant to give others some opportunity :) [02:10] * ianorlin hasn't done tihs before and don't really now how tihs works [02:10] ianorlin: we have a whole document! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership [02:10] Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Leadership - Ubuntu Wiki] [02:10] there'll be a queue of people lining up to scold her for taking it on again if she does. [02:10] I have a hard time with the groups I have now trying to get anything done [02:10] mostly the job of the leadership trio is making sure meetings happen, announcements go out, and generally the team hums along [02:11] elky: hehe [02:11] more than three candidates this time would be nice :P [02:11] so if anyone is interested, please think about it, and ask me or philipballew or rww questions if you are curious about what we've been up to this past year [02:12] yes, a proper election would be lovely :) [02:12] I'm too busy running the election to run in the election, guys. [02:12] LOL! I've seen that before at the Foundation [02:13] What's the process for standing for election? [02:13] Are there any deadlines, when's the election, etc. :) [02:14] jyo: I can run the election, if you'd like to run in it :P [02:14] nhaines read pleia2 link [02:15] the coordinator will send out an email like this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2013-December/002346.html [02:15] Title: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Call for Ubuntu California LoCo leadershipnominations] [02:15] ianorlin: I have. I didn't see any dates or nomination procedures there. [02:15] again, all a couple months off and we'll iron that out as we get closer, I just want potential leaders to start thinking [02:16] December. Looks good. [02:16] and it's self-nomination over email or IRC [02:16] * pleia2 nods [02:17] * ianorlin wonders if that should be in the leadership so this question doesn't come up again [02:18] it'll be linked at the bottom of the page in a 2014 link once we get going [02:18] but it's 3 months off, so no one has done any of the deadline setting or anything yet [02:18] #topic Any other business [02:19] Has anyone heard from Jono at all? I never got to meet the guy. [02:20] * ianorlin hears him on his podcast bad voltage but not in ubuntu-us-ca stuff [02:20] he came to our release party in San Francisco for Trusty [02:20] Jono's around all the time. [02:20] I know, I was there too, but somehow missed him [02:20] Roguehorse: I'm hoping he's at SCALE again next year. He's awesome. :) [02:21] * ianorlin is pretty sure he will be [02:21] I've heard all good things [02:21] he's got the XPrize job now, so not quite as much Ubuntu-y things I think these days [02:21] I've heard from many that I HAVE to get to SCALE but it's kind of a big wad of cash right now [02:22] so, other things on the calendar, Utopic release is coming up on October 23rd [02:22] * ianorlin likes living close to scale [02:22] ianorlin: :-P [02:22] Utopic will also be the foundation of the new phones featuring Ubuntu later this year. :) [02:23] \o/ [02:23] Hmm.. my phone is junk again. I need to send it in for exchange [02:24] I cleaned my keyboard last night and got all the keys back in the same place. [02:24] * ianorlin wonders what new things are in server for utopic [02:24] nhaines: LOL! Good work! (put it on your LinkedIN) ;-) [02:25] Looking inside keyboard. Soon the living shall envy the dead. [02:25] * pleia2 gives nhaines a gold star [02:25] ianorlin: I don't expect a lot of innovation [02:26] so, other upcoming stuff, I'll be out of town on Wednesday, but Michael Paoli will be hosting the typical SF Ubuntu Hour (and probably a Debian Dinner to follow) [02:26] berkeley ubuntu hour coming up on the 18th: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2692-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/ [02:26] Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [02:27] oh! copies of The Official Ubuntu Book [02:28] have it [02:28] nhaines has some in SoCal, I have some in NorCal, chat with us if you need one [02:28] 8th edition (came out in July) [02:28] I'm waiting on 9th edition. [02:28] hehe [02:29] ok, that's all I've got [02:29] Some of the peeps at EBLUG might dig one [02:30] I should go to that some time [02:31] They're a nice group, just not very, um (active)? I guess I should say? [02:31] aha :) [02:32] pleia2: It would be nice to see you come in and hang out :-) [02:32] You're not missing much, at least last time I dropped by. [02:32] I'm trying - but it's hard when you'rew the only one motivated [02:32] Roguehorse: may do! probably not until November or so [02:33] pleia2: No worries [02:33] although, I might be around this month [02:33] * pleia2 shrugs [02:33] anyway, anything else from anyone before we wrap up and I go get sushi? :d [02:33] nah, I'm empty [02:34] alrighty, thanks everyone [02:34] #endmeeting [02:34] Meeting ended Mon Sep 8 02:34:24 2014 UTC. [02:34] Minutes: http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2014/ubuntu-us-ca.2014-09-08-02.00.moin.txt [02:34] thanks, pleia2 :) [02:36] yes, ty! :-) === izdubar is now known as MarkDude [16:15] * akk finally gets the meeting announcement for last night's meeting [16:21] It happens [16:21] * MarkDude is getting announcements for another project- 4 days after event [16:29] Usually I get the announcements for the meetings here either a few hours before, or right around the time of the meeting, but now and then it's the next day. [16:30] This one was the day of the meeting, if I recall correctly. But I definitely got it beforehand. [16:31] Conspiracy. [16:31] * MarkDude kids :) [16:31] Fedora is trying to integrate calendar and announcements- and its failing soooooooo bad. Its kinda funny [16:32] Let's have a meeting- oh crap- none of the leads are here- well let me pretend to be one.... And hope I dont mess things up [16:32] I seldom get them early enough that it could possibly make a difference in planning to be there. [16:33] Not that it matters for me -- I'm just lurking, I'm not even IN CA any more. [16:34] Its cool- many idlers in this channel are not either ;) [19:40] How hard is it to find a company with a casual dress code but is structured in workflow [19:56] ianorlin idk I found one [20:13] ianorlin: never had trouble with that. [20:14] The hard part is the dress code. :) [20:14] Because I had a job interivew today and they thought more structure would be good for me [20:15] ianorlin: you should have told them you'd have been happy to prove it. === izdubar is now known as MarkDude === izdubar is now known as MarkDude