[01:08] <MarkDude> Roguehorse, I should ask Rick if I can get a Tour Shirt
[01:10]  * MarkDude would suggest what the shirts might say- but there is a CoC in this channel. I will tell him next time I see him- its been too long
[01:10] <MarkDude> :D
[01:24] <Roguehorse> :-P
[01:25] <Roguehorse> Go easy on the guy - I like Rick, he's very cool in my book
[01:27] <Roguehorse> Anyone have thoughts on Google and Yahoo doing end-to-end encryption now?
[01:27] <nhaines> doubleplusgood.
[01:28] <pleia2> okies, packing up from debian hack time so I can go home for our meeting in a bit
[01:34] <Roguehorse> I find the idea interesting and was listening to Security Now! to get S.Gibsons thoughts ... we'll see how it turns out
[01:36] <rww> It's nice if your threat model doesn't include Google or Yahoo being compromised but does include the link between them and whichever mailserver you care about being compromised.
[01:36] <rww> unless they actually implement trustable end-to-end crypto where they don't have knowledge of the private key, which means they use javascript, which means... meh.
[01:38] <rww> oh, gmail is going to use a Chrome extension (meh). what's Yahoo doing?
[01:38] <Roguehorse> I heard it's all based on javascript which is something of a concern to do it right
[01:38] <nhaines> rww: java applet.
[01:38] <Roguehorse> not sure how Yahoo is implementing
[01:39] <rww> i guess this is another of those security - convenience tradeoff situations
[01:39] <Roguehorse> I would suspect same since they are getting code from Google
[01:40] <Roguehorse> LOL! Always!
[01:40] <Roguehorse> I think a lot of it comes from trying to get people to have trust in their mail systems again rather than turn to alternatives like DarkMail
[01:41] <MarkDude> Roguehorse, you have any thoughts on his new security via QR codes?
[01:59] <ianorlin> almost meeting time
[02:00] <pleia2> meeting time :)
[02:00] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[02:00] <pleia2> ok, who all is here for the meeting?
[02:00] <Roguehorse> \o
[02:00] <ianorlin> \o
[02:00] <nhaines> \o_
[02:00] <elky> \o
[02:00] <pleia2> cool
[02:01] <nhaines> rww: stop playing Final Fantasy and join us.  :P
[02:01] <rww> i'm playing final fantasy 7, but elky can poke me if need be
[02:01] <rww> be quiet nhaines :P
[02:01] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14September07
[02:01] <pleia2> haha
[02:01] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14September07 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:01] <elky> busted lol
[02:01] <pleia2> #chair rww
[02:01] <darthrobot`> Current chairs: pleia2 rww
[02:01] <pleia2> #topic Software Freedom Day plans
[02:02] <pleia2> so grantbow emailed Sameer on the 24th about SFSU plans, who replied "updates coming soon"
[02:02] <pleia2> afaik, there haven't been any yet
[02:02] <pleia2> but they typically do an on campus thing some weekday that a few folks from the team go to
[02:02] <pleia2> any other areas have anything?
[02:02] <Roguehorse> oh, I was going to contact him to see if he needed help or anything and got sidetracked
[02:02] <pleia2> hehe
[02:03] <Roguehorse> I sent an email to Hurricane and never heard back
[02:03] <pleia2> well, we're trying :)
[02:03] <jyo> oh hi
[02:03] <Roguehorse> hi
[02:04] <pleia2> jyo works at Hurricane, so maybe chats can happen? :)
[02:05] <nhaines> The next OCLUG meeting is technically on SFD.  So we probably should have planned something.
[02:05] <Roguehorse> ?? Hmm .... sure!
[02:05]  * ianorlin doesn't know the topic of next OCLUG meeting
[02:06] <nhaines> They don't have topics unless there's a presentation.
[02:06] <ianorlin> ah
[02:08] <Roguehorse> (crickets)
[02:09] <pleia2> hehe, ok, next topic then
[02:09] <pleia2> #topic CaliforniaTeam/Leadership Election
[02:09] <pleia2> so this isn't until December strictly speaking, but I want to put it in people's minds early
[02:09] <Roguehorse> pleia2: Your the president! - next topic
[02:09] <elky> nah, she needs a break
[02:09] <Roguehorse> :-)
[02:09] <pleia2> you may notice that I miss about half the meetings, I'm traveling a lot and work is taking up a lot of my time, so I probably want to not play leader anymore
[02:10] <pleia2> plus Iwant to give others some opportunity :)
[02:10]  * ianorlin hasn't done tihs before and don't really now how tihs works
[02:10] <pleia2> ianorlin: we have a whole document! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership
[02:10] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Leadership - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:10] <elky> there'll be a queue of people lining up to scold her for taking it on again if she does.
[02:10] <Roguehorse> I have a hard time with the groups I have now trying to get anything done
[02:10] <pleia2> mostly the job of the leadership trio is making sure meetings happen, announcements go out, and generally the team hums along
[02:11] <pleia2> elky: hehe
[02:11] <rww> more than three candidates this time would be nice :P
[02:11] <pleia2> so if anyone is interested, please think about it, and ask me or philipballew or rww questions if you are curious about what we've been up to this past year
[02:12] <pleia2> yes, a proper election would be lovely :)
[02:12] <jyo> I'm too busy running the election to run in the election, guys.
[02:12] <Roguehorse> LOL! I've seen that before at the Foundation
[02:13] <nhaines> What's the process for standing for election?
[02:13] <nhaines> Are there any deadlines, when's the election, etc. :)
[02:14] <rww> jyo: I can run the election, if you'd like to run in it :P
[02:14] <ianorlin> nhaines read pleia2 link
[02:15] <pleia2> the coordinator will send out an email like this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2013-December/002346.html
[02:15] <darthrobot`> Title: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Call for Ubuntu California LoCo leadershipnominations]
[02:15] <nhaines> ianorlin: I have.  I didn't see any dates or nomination procedures there.
[02:15] <pleia2> again, all a couple months off and we'll iron that out as we get closer, I just want potential leaders to start thinking
[02:16] <nhaines> December.  Looks good.
[02:16] <rww> and it's self-nomination over email or IRC
[02:16]  * pleia2 nods
[02:17]  * ianorlin wonders if that should be in the leadership so this question doesn't come up again
[02:18] <pleia2> it'll be linked at the bottom of the page in a 2014 link once we get going
[02:18] <pleia2> but it's 3 months off, so no one has done any of the deadline setting or anything yet
[02:18] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[02:19] <Roguehorse> Has anyone heard from Jono at all? I never got to meet the guy.
[02:20]  * ianorlin hears him on his podcast bad voltage but not in ubuntu-us-ca stuff
[02:20] <pleia2> he came to our release party in San Francisco for Trusty
[02:20] <nhaines> Jono's around all the time.
[02:20] <Roguehorse> I know, I was there too, but somehow missed him
[02:20] <nhaines> Roguehorse: I'm hoping he's at SCALE again next year.  He's awesome.  :)
[02:21]  * ianorlin is pretty sure he will be
[02:21] <Roguehorse> I've heard all good things
[02:21] <pleia2> he's got the XPrize job now, so not quite as much Ubuntu-y things I think these days
[02:21] <Roguehorse> I've heard from many that I HAVE to get to SCALE but it's kind of a big wad of cash right now
[02:22] <pleia2> so, other things on the calendar, Utopic release is coming up on October 23rd
[02:22]  * ianorlin likes living close to scale
[02:22] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: :-P
[02:22] <nhaines> Utopic will also be the foundation of the new phones featuring Ubuntu later this year.  :)
[02:23] <pleia2> \o/
[02:23] <Roguehorse> Hmm.. my phone is junk again. I need to send it in for exchange
[02:24] <nhaines> I cleaned my keyboard last night and got all the keys back in the same place.
[02:24]  * ianorlin wonders what new things are in server for utopic
[02:24] <Roguehorse> nhaines: LOL! Good work! (put it on your LinkedIN) ;-)
[02:25] <nhaines> Looking inside keyboard.  Soon the living shall envy the dead.
[02:25]  * pleia2 gives nhaines a gold star
[02:25] <pleia2> ianorlin: I don't expect a lot of innovation
[02:26] <pleia2> so, other upcoming stuff, I'll be out of town on Wednesday, but Michael Paoli will be hosting the typical SF Ubuntu Hour (and probably a Debian Dinner to follow)
[02:26] <pleia2> berkeley ubuntu hour coming up on the 18th: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2692-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/
[02:26] <darthrobot`> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[02:27] <pleia2> oh! copies of The Official Ubuntu Book
[02:28] <Roguehorse> have it
[02:28] <pleia2> nhaines has some in SoCal, I have some in NorCal, chat with us if you need one
[02:28] <pleia2> 8th edition (came out in July)
[02:28] <nhaines> I'm waiting on 9th edition.
[02:28] <pleia2> hehe
[02:29] <pleia2> ok, that's all I've got
[02:29] <Roguehorse> Some of the peeps at EBLUG might dig one
[02:30] <pleia2> I should go to that some time
[02:31] <Roguehorse> They're a nice group, just not very, um (active)? I guess I should say?
[02:31] <pleia2> aha :)
[02:32] <Roguehorse> pleia2: It would be nice to see you come in and hang out :-)
[02:32] <jyo> You're not missing much, at least last time I dropped by.
[02:32] <Roguehorse> I'm trying - but it's hard when you'rew the only one motivated
[02:32] <pleia2> Roguehorse: may do! probably not until November or so
[02:33] <Roguehorse> pleia2: No worries
[02:33] <pleia2> although, I might be around this month
[02:33]  * pleia2 shrugs
[02:33] <pleia2> anyway, anything else from anyone before we wrap up and I go get sushi? :d
[02:33] <Roguehorse> nah, I'm empty
[02:34] <pleia2> alrighty, thanks everyone
[02:34] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:34] <darthrobot`> Meeting ended Mon Sep  8 02:34:24 2014 UTC.
[02:34] <darthrobot`> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2014/ubuntu-us-ca.2014-09-08-02.00.moin.txt
[02:34] <nhaines> thanks, pleia2  :)
[02:36] <Roguehorse> yes, ty! :-)
[16:15]  * akk finally gets the meeting announcement for last night's meeting
[16:21] <MarkDude> It happens
[16:21]  * MarkDude is getting announcements for another project- 4 days after event
[16:29] <akk> Usually I get the announcements for the meetings here either a few hours before, or right around the time of the meeting, but now and then it's the next day.
[16:30] <rww> This one was the day of the meeting, if I recall correctly. But I definitely got it beforehand.
[16:31] <MarkDude> Conspiracy.
[16:31]  * MarkDude kids :)
[16:31] <MarkDude> Fedora is trying to integrate calendar and announcements- and its failing soooooooo bad. Its kinda funny
[16:32] <MarkDude> Let's have a meeting- oh crap- none of the leads are here- well let me pretend to be one.... And hope I dont mess things up
[16:32] <akk> I seldom get them early enough that it could possibly make a difference in planning to be there.
[16:33] <akk> Not that it matters for me -- I'm just lurking, I'm not even IN CA any more.
[16:34] <MarkDude> Its cool- many idlers in this channel are not either ;)
[19:40] <ianorlin> How hard is it to find a company with a casual dress code but is structured in workflow
[19:56] <blitz> ianorlin idk I found one
[20:13] <nhaines> ianorlin: never had trouble with that.
[20:14] <nhaines> The hard part is the dress code.  :)
[20:14] <ianorlin> Because I had a job interivew today and they thought more structure would be good for me
[20:15] <nhaines> ianorlin: you should have told them you'd have been happy to prove it.