[05:18] <bduk> More almal
[05:39] <Kilos> hi bduk  nlsthzn  inetpro  and others
[05:50] <nlsthzn> good morning uncle Kilos , how are you?
[05:50] <Kilos> ok ty nlsthzn  and you?
[05:51] <nlsthzn> good thanks
[05:51] <Kilos> i need help again
[05:51] <nlsthzn> don't we all
[05:51] <Kilos> i want to connect through a switch box thing
[05:52] <Kilos> must i use vpn for that
[05:52] <nlsthzn> it is your switch at your home?
[05:53] <Kilos> ya its right here
[05:53] <Kilos> i want to connect to another pc im gonna install server on
[05:53] <Kilos> i see vpn openvpn and more
[05:54] <Kilos> im reading here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[05:54] <nlsthzn> all you need to be able to see the other PC is if both of there IP's are configured to be on the same subnet... 
[05:55] <nlsthzn> all to do with setting the correct IP addresses
[05:55] <Kilos> ok ty thats a start
[05:56] <nlsthzn> so both should be something like 192.168.1.xxx
[05:56] <nlsthzn> and then you can use ssh to connect to the server
[05:56] <nlsthzn> or if you use samba you can share folders etc. that way too
[05:57] <Kilos> i want to run minetest on the server so must i choose the host option when installing it
[05:57] <nlsthzn> I don't know minetest
[05:57] <Kilos> its just a game
[05:57] <Kilos> like minecraft
[05:57] <nlsthzn> I know what it is I don't know how to configure it I mean
[05:57] <nlsthzn> but hosting sounds right
[05:58] <Kilos> i have it running on here in another user but it slows kde down too much
[05:58] <nlsthzn> then all you would need is the ip address of the server to give to the client to be able to connect
[05:58] <nlsthzn> you should be able to run the server and the client on the same user afaik
[05:58] <Kilos> i get stuck with all the options
[06:00] <nlsthzn> I see there are wiki's that help - http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
[06:00] <nlsthzn> etc
[06:00] <Kilos> vpn and openvpn and domain stuff whew
[06:01] <Kilos> i dont want it on here. it must be on another pc
[06:01] <Kilos> but lemme look
[06:02] <Kilos> if i can make a minetest server on other pc without first installing ubuntu server that will lessen headache
[06:04] <Kilos> oi
[06:04] <Kilos> first let me try change my ip here on kde
[06:08] <nlsthzn> you don't need a server edition of linux to run "servers"
[06:11] <Kilos> on another pc?
[06:12] <Squirm> morning
[06:12] <Kilos> i used nm to try change the ip but ifconfig shows it still the same grrr
[06:12] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[06:16] <Kilos> found this http://www.wikihow.com/Assign-an-IP-Address-on-a-Linux-Computer
[06:16] <Kilos> will read and try
[06:21] <Squirm> I tend to have to disable and enable the interface when I change it with nm
[06:21] <Kilos> aha ty
[06:21] <Squirm> well, disabled "networking"
[06:25] <Kilos> must i set a static ip address?
[06:25] <nlsthzn> depends on how your system get an ip...
[06:26] <nlsthzn> if they don't automatically get one from DHCP then you can set them manually
[06:26] <Kilos> oi you see more options
[06:26] <Kilos> well lets think
[06:27] <Kilos> before i saw the wifi router with dhcp but now my ip is weird
[06:27] <Kilos> so cant even see the router
[06:27] <Kilos> thats why im trying the switch thing
[06:28] <Kilos> hopefully its not a faulty one
[06:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> how many PCs are you linking together?
[06:30] <Kilos> 2
[06:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> does 1 of them have a gigabit ethernet interface?
[06:30] <Kilos> both do i think, 
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> you don't need a switch just cable them directly to each other
[06:31] <Kilos> couple of years back i had to use a crossover cable to connect them
[06:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> gigabit interfaces will automatically sort the out, no need for crossover
[06:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> *that
[06:32] <Kilos> ok let me connect directly
[06:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> even if only 1 is gigabit and the other is 100M, it will still work
[06:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, direct connection and they both ought to come up with a 169.254.x.y address
[06:34] <Kilos> the other one has no os installed yet
[06:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> doesn't matter, when your O/S or installer comes up it'll get an address like that
[06:40] <Kilos> wbb gotta go make sheep food ready
[07:01] <Kilos> been thinking or trying to anyway
[07:02] <Kilos> i think i first must get my ip in the range of the router for when i want to use it
[07:02] <Kilos> before i do other stuffs
[07:40] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[08:01] <superfly> ohi
[08:02] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[08:02] <Kilos> lo inetpro  
[08:03] <Kilos> in between Spekko  
[08:19] <Spekko> more Kilos
[08:28] <charl> morning all
[08:29] <Joe_knock> morning
[09:32] <Kilos> hi Joe_knock  
[09:32] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[09:33] <Joe_knock> Kilos: I've been here before :P
[09:33] <Kilos> lol well welcome back then
[09:34] <Kilos> what did you break?
[09:35] <Joe_knock> nothing. Just came to chill here. 
[09:35] <Kilos> cool
[09:35] <Joe_knock> Things are very quiet in the SA IRCs
[09:36] <Kilos> yeah everyone is too busy making a living
[09:36] <Kilos> and im doing manual labour
[09:36] <Joe_knock> What do you do?
[09:37] <Kilos> as little as possible but today im working with these things
[09:37] <Kilos> Eisenia fetida
[09:38] <Kilos> emptying a bin and restarting 2
[09:39] <Kilos> http://home.howstuffworks.com/vermicomposting1.htm
[09:41] <Joe_knock> are you retired?
[09:41] <Kilos> yeah kinda
[09:42] <Kilos> very tired
[10:36] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:36]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[10:36] <charl> good afternoon Kilos 
[10:36] <Kilos> hi charl  
[10:37] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[10:37] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[10:40] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[10:41] <Joe_knock> Maaz: Hi
[10:41]  * Maaz waves to Joe_knock
[10:48] <charl> Kilos: thanks
[10:48] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[10:48] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[10:48] <charl> sorry Kilos :)
[10:48] <charl> i'm on holiday my head isn't thinking straight :P
[10:49] <Kilos> ?
[10:50] <Kilos> Maaz  gracias
[10:50] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[13:50] <Kilos> hi Cantide  
[13:55] <Cantide> hello~
[15:31] <Kilos> hi Private_User  Tonberry  Xethron  
[15:34] <Cantide> Kilos is the new greeter bot '-';;;
[15:34] <Kilos> hehe
[15:35] <Kilos> and the old one
[15:36] <Cantide> :p
[15:36] <Cantide> how are you?
[15:37] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[17:29] <Kilos> oh my, again
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[17:31] <Kilos> hi superfly  inetpro  and others
[17:33] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> shellcomplex  whats with the nick change
[18:39] <smile> bye ;)
[19:08] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight