[00:00] <halim> hello
[00:00] <mJayk> hello
[00:00] <Faerie> I know I know, I'm using it too (and was using Bumblebee before)
[00:00] <halim> fine and you
[00:01] <mJayk> Faerie, whats the question ?
[00:01] <halim> you have skype pleas
[00:01] <Jay_> Hey everyone I have an installation question if someone can help out it would be appreciated
[00:02] <blackangelpr> Jay_, just ask ^^
[00:04] <Jay_> Installation type:   I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04.1 and I am at the point where it is asking me to choose a hdd what size partition and mount point do I needmuse
[00:04] <Faerie> question was, is an automatic change of the graphic card in use currently in development, or anything ? I had a friend that was quite upset about being forced to quit his session and launch it again every time he needed to change the card in use, and so I was searching if something is planned, cause i havent read about it.
[00:04] <Jay_> Need/use*
[00:05] <mJayk> Jay_, ok what is the problem
[00:06] <Jay_> It keeps telling me no root file system is defined
[00:06] <mJayk> Jay_, and have to set a root partition
[00:07] <Jay_> Do I want the root files on a small partition or the large partition
[00:08] <Bashing-om> mJayk: Go back to 1st partition screen, select change, in the 'use qs' filed type / .
[00:08] <Bashing-om> as*
[00:08] <mJayk> Bashing-om, sorry what
[00:09] <Bashing-om> field*
[00:10] <Bashing-om> yeah.. what you have to do is tell the system where root (/) is to be installed. in that 1st screen selct the option 'change" . tbc
[00:10] <Jay_> On the large portion of the partition or small
[00:11] <eeee> Jay_: you need around 14-20GB for a well sized root
[00:11] <mJayk> Jay_, the root partition is where the opperating system and alot of the programs / deps will live so you need it to be big enough to hold allt them
[00:12] <Jay_> So 50gb then what (ext4, ext3, fat 32??
[00:12] <eeee> ext4
[00:12] <mJayk> ext4 Jay_ is standard
[00:13] <compdoc> why not let Ubuntu partition every thing?
[00:13] <dustinspringman> +1 compdoc
[00:13] <Jay_> Didnt know that was an iotiin
[00:14] <Faerie> compdoc : cause you sometimes want to have /usr and /home on other partitions than /
[00:14] <Faerie> compdoc : easier to change distribution this way, or to keep files
[00:14] <Faerie> compdoc : and loads of other reasons, like size of partitions, etc.
[00:15] <Jay_> So it would be better to let the system do all the partitioning
[00:15] <rww> yes
[00:16] <Faerie> Jay_ : not better. Easier
[00:16] <maurer> Is there a way to find out why a package was deleted?
[00:16] <blackangelpr> Jay_, its just easier but not necesary the best if you want to change distro every time
[00:16] <Jay_> Just use the full hdd as root?
[00:16] <rww> maurer: deleted from the repositories? yes. which package?
[00:16] <maurer> I'm trying to package new software, and it depends on libcore-ocaml-dev, but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/libcore-ocaml-dev/107.01-5build1 indicates the only revision was deleted
[00:16] <maurer> rww: libcore-ocaml-dev
[00:16] <blackangelpr> Jay_,  if you are still on the gui you can click back and make ubuntu install it self along windows
[00:17] <Jay_> I have a locked up hdd I am trying to reformat
[00:17] <rww> maurer: it failed to build from source. I think it's back in utopic (the upcoming release), though.
[00:18] <Jay_> It has put a password on it and I can't get past it so I figures new os would fix it
[00:18] <maurer> :/ I need it for a package in like, a day.
[00:18] <maurer> I guess I have to repackage that too
[00:18]  * maurer grumbles
[00:18] <rww> yep
[00:18] <maurer> I'm kind of surprised they'd do an ocaml transition that broke libcore
[00:18] <maurer> it's basically the only functioning ocaml standard library
[00:19] <Jay_> I am running 2 hdd one has Windows and the other has old Ubuntu
[00:20] <Faerie> Jay_ : you want to use the HDD only for the OS, or to store files too ?
[00:20] <Jay_> Both
[00:21] <Jay_> I can't get past the mounting point part
[00:21] <Faerie> Jay_ : you're using GUI installator ?
[00:23] <Jay_> I burned the it's off Ubuntu website booting off disc
[00:23] <Jay_> Iso*
[00:23] <misterTom> What channel should I join if I'm a noob and need some help installing Linux?
[00:24] <Faerie> Jay_ : go back a few screens
[00:24] <Jay_> K
[00:24] <Faerie> you must have an option "use a full disk" or smthing like this
[00:24] <blackangelpr> misterTom, what is the problem?  already burned the iso and boot up?
[00:24] <mekhami> i'm trying to add-apt-repository yannubuntu/boot-repair
[00:24] <Faerie> select the HDD, and then let ubuntu do all the work
[00:25] <mekhami> cannot add PPA: check that the PPA name or format is correct
[00:25] <Jay_> I have dual hdd
[00:25] <Jay_> I have to pick which hdd
[00:25] <misterTom> blackangelpr It's fairly specific. I am trying to install some distro to an SD card to run it off a Chromebook.
[00:25] <misterTom> ^^^^ I also have no idea what I am talking about.
[00:25] <Faerie> Jay_ : yes.
[00:25] <misterTom> Day 0 n00b here.
[00:26] <blackangelpr> misterTom, http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-run-both-chrome-os-and-ubuntu-on-a-chromebook/
[00:26] <blackangelpr> misterTom, that should help you step by step
[00:27] <misterTom> blackangelpr  This is good and all but it doesn't specify how to run it off an SD card.
[00:27] <Jay_> it tells me install alongside erase disk and install or something else
[00:27] <misterTom> blackangelpr, http://tomwwolf.com/chromebook-14-compedium/chromebook-crouton-cookbook/
[00:28] <Jay_> I chose something else
[00:28] <Faerie> ok
[00:28] <misterTom> I've followed most of the instructions above but I believe I am being messed up by not being able to properly format the SD card.
[00:28] <Faerie> when you choose this smthing else, you should be able to choose between the two hdd
[00:28] <misterTom> I tried formatting it in Windows but I don't have access to ext2
[00:29] <Jay_> Yes
[00:29] <Faerie> do as others said before, select "use as /"
[00:29] <Faerie> on the good hdd
[00:30] <Jay_> when I choose the hdd I want it tells me no root file system is defined
[00:31] <Jay_> the hdd I want to use is already partitioned do I undo the partition?
[00:32] <blackangelpr> misterTom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
[00:32] <Faerie> do you want to keep the datas it's got ?
[00:32] <misterTom> blackangelpr, thanks for all the help! I'll go try this and get back to you with the results.
[00:33] <Jay_> No
[00:33] <misterTom> blackangelpr, you're a hero.
[00:33] <blackangelpr> misterTom, good luck :)
[00:33] <treloool> Jay_, I think you need to click the change button and select "/" and the file system ext4
[00:34] <Jay_> Do that to the larger part of the partition or the smaller?
[00:34] <Faerie> Jay_ : then format all partitions on the HDD, and create new partitions.
[00:35] <treloool> Jay_, The one you want root file system on.
[00:35] <Faerie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[00:35] <Faerie> see the step 5 on the "blank disk" part ?
[00:35] <Jay_> What would be better smaller root or larger I got a tb
[00:36] <Jay_> I haven't got to step 5 stuck on 4
[00:37] <Jay_> and now I think my machine just froze
[00:37] <Jay_> spinning dial of death
[00:37] <Faerie> Jay_ : format all partitions.
[00:37] <treloool> The /home would usually be larger if you make a /home. But you don't have to. All you must have is a root "/"
[00:37] <Faerie> on the HDD
[00:38] <Jay_> OK cool and make it a ext4?
[00:38] <treloool> Yes
[00:39] <john_doe_jr> is it possible to dd a entire operating system and then installing it on another drive?
[00:39] <samuel_> some know how to make an iso from a file ??
[00:41] <blackangelpr> samuel_, http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-Image-from-a-Folder-in-Ubuntu
[00:41] <Jay_> Had to reboot give me a min
[00:42] <Faerie> Jay_: you format all. Create a new partition like in step 5, and everything will be ok ;)
[00:43] <Jay_> Thank you
[00:43] <pytu> hey ubuntu fans
[00:43] <blackangelpr> hi there pytu
[00:44] <Faerie> hey
[00:45] <Basketball> what is the command to show which buttons are being pressed
[00:45] <pytu> after so long try of different distro, i finally came back to ubuntu world
[00:46] <misterTom> blackangelpr, I tried “sudo mkdir /media/removable/chrome-32/chroots” but I get that "mkrdir: cannot create directory [...] No such file or directory
[00:46] <nrdb> what would the best method of syncing user and group ids across several VMs be?
[00:46] <hhmmm> Basketball, xev
[00:47] <casey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMXj4upRDlY
[00:47] <misterTom> blackangelpr, I renamed the new partition to the same name as the instructions found here: http://tomwwolf.com/chromebook-14-compedium/chromebook-crouton-cookbook/
[00:47] <Basketball> hhmmm,  how do i run it
[00:47] <Bashing-om> Basketball: xinput ??
[00:48] <Jay_> I'm in thank you very much
[00:48] <Faerie> Jay_ : it worked ?
[00:48] <Jay_> Yes it did finishing install and updates now
[00:48] <blackangelpr> misterTom, when you type :    cd /media/removable
[00:48] <blackangelpr> then ls
[00:48] <misterTom> blackangelpr, I'm going to try and reformat the SD card one more time.
[00:49] <blackangelpr> to see what folders do you have there
[00:49] <misterTom> Then I'll check the /media/
[00:49] <Faerie> Jay_ : great ! welcome back to ubuntu world ;)
[00:49] <blackangelpr> ok
[00:49] <Jay_> Yes sir!
[00:49] <Jay_> Can't wait to get off windows
[00:50] <Faerie> Jay_ : how I uderstand you ...
[00:51] <Jay_> Lol yeah my wife uses Windows so had to keep her happy I have Ubuntu on my 1tb hdd she has her Windows on the.other
[00:52] <Faerie> ^^
[00:53] <Jay_> Now to figure out how to run both os on two separate screens at the same time
[00:53] <malkauns> Jay_: how would that work?
[00:53] <SchrodingersScat> add a raspberry pi to the mix
[00:54] <Jay_> Don't know yet one screen Windows the other Ubuntu running simultaneously
[00:54] <Guest24652> Anyone know what to do here? : sudo mount /dev/mapper/enc-pv /media/clop
[00:54] <Guest24652> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[00:55] <mk_> nnb
[00:55] <Jay_> A buddy of mine told me that it is possible though. I guess now it is time to put him to the tesr
[00:55] <Faerie> Jay_ : I think you should better try virtualisation
[00:56] <Faerie> with Xen or any other Hypervisor server
[00:56] <misterTom> What does the following mean? "Create / Install : ‘ sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -r raring -t unity’ / with Raring release and Unity window manager – pick your favorites"
[00:56] <blackangelpr> i think he means multiseat and virtualization hard thing to do :P for now :p
[00:56] <Jay_> All that was Greek to me
[00:57] <misterTom> Glad it's not just me then. :P
[00:57] <incognito> that is for chromebook
[00:57] <misterTom> ^^^ Bingop
[00:57] <misterTom> Bingo*
[00:57] <mk_> hi
[00:57] <incognito> u use that command to choose what type of ubuntu u want.
[00:57] <Jay_> My buddy has his own server here in Atlanta don't know what he does with it but he has about 10 stacks
[00:58] <misterTom> incognito, could you recommend a type?
[00:58] <uRock> !elementary
[00:58] <incognito> The release is raring and type is for unity
[00:59] <misterTom> All Greek to me.
[00:59] <misterTom> <-- Noob in the first degree
[00:59] <incognito> sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -r trusty -t unity
[00:59] <pytu> i was wondering when do anyone know when steam will port all the high end games to linux world, cant wait to get off my window box. i have it for games only :P
[01:00] <blackangelpr> pytu,  time will tell borderlands 2 soon unrealtournament on development etc
[01:00] <Faerie> Jay_ : maybe trying virtual engines suits your need better
[01:00] <incognito> why do u not just enable legacy boot and install kali linux or ubuntu as the main system?
[01:00] <pytu> if they port bl2 to ubuntu i will be so happy?
[01:01] <pytu> !!!!
[01:01] <Jay_> Not sure what virtual engines are about but sounds cool to me I will have to check it out
[01:02] <Jay_> Still loading all the install packeges
[01:02] <Guest24652> hey i need a little help trying to recover some data
[01:02] <Jay_> Hurry up and wait
[01:02] <Guest24652> On a live CD at the moment
[01:03] <Guest24652> managed to cryptsetup /dev/sda5 but ... i still cant access the files
[01:03] <somsip> Jay_: basically you'd install VirtualBox, create a new virtual machine, install Win* on that, and run it on one screen whilst Ubuntu was running as the host OS
[01:03] <Faerie> Jay_: it's kind of : i take some physical ressources (like RAM, cores of the processor, ...), I create virtuals parts for other things, and launch it. It'll be like two engines run at the same time
[01:03] <Jay_> Nice can I  all on your help when I get ready to do that?
[01:04] <Faerie> like a windows in linux, or fedora on ubuntu
[01:04] <misterTom> incognito, I typed what you told me and it's working it's magic now.
[01:04] <misterTom> I don't know what trusty is but I have faith in you!
[01:05] <blackangelpr> see you all time to sleep for me :)
[01:06] <misterTom> Does capitalisation matter when choosing an install directory?
[01:07] <misterTom> i.e. Is there a difference between CHROME-32 and chrome-32?
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> yes, generally
[01:08] <misterTom> SchrodingersScat, great nick! True lols were had.
[01:08] <misterTom> Also thanks for the answer.
[01:09] <Jay_> I am up and running, Thanks again
[01:09] <cynicallemon> misterTom: unix is case sensitive
[01:09] <misterTom> Let's hope I didn't fudge things up, then.
[01:10] <Faerie> Jay_ : have fun !
[01:10] <Baako> curl -s http://getcomposer.org/installer | php
[01:11] <Baako> is somethign wrong with using curl?
[01:11] <somsip_> Baako: don't you have to sudo that as it will install to /bin ?
[01:12] <Baako> i need it to be install globally
[01:12] <Sachiru> Query: For a non-IT or managerial IT type, could you explain a) What DNSCrypt is, b) What its purpose is, and c) Why is it necessary? My writing skills are poor when it comes to explaining technical matters to non-technical personnel.
[01:13] <somsip_> Baako: I understand. But I'm wrong - it looks like that is the official recommended way of installing it. I think I just downloaded it and copied it to $PATH manually
[01:13] <bish0p_> Hi, I updated to 14.04 because the popup came up and I just assumed I should, but now I have to restart lightdm every time I turn on my computer or I have no taskbars.
[01:15] <bish0p_> Is there any way I can make that not be an issue?
[01:15] <misterTom> incognito, halp! I'm getting this error: http://textdump.net/read/5807/
[01:16] <Baako> /usr/local/bin$ ls
[01:16] <Baako> composer
[01:17] <Baako> cd composer
[01:17] <Baako> bash: cd: composer: Not a directory
[01:17] <Baako> isnt that confusing
[01:17] <Baako> ls shows composer but i cant cd into it
[01:17] <somsip_> Baako: no. Composer is a file, not a directory.
[01:18] <Bashing-om> bish0p_: Try-> from ctl+alt+F1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-session , sudo restart lightdm .
[01:18] <Baako> mv composer.phar /usr/local/bin/composer
[01:18] <bish0p_> Bashing-om, alright, I'll try that.
[01:18] <Baako> isn't composer a folder?
[01:18] <somsip_> Baako: see my reply above
[01:19] <Bashing-om> bish0p_: Older versions of Ubuntu had unity's session in the package gnome-session. But for 14.04, they made a new one called ubuntu-session.
[01:19] <incognito> what are you on the 16 ssd gb chromebook?
[01:19] <Baako> i saw it but what i am sayign is. having i meant to moved it to a folder called composer?
[01:19] <Baako> https://getcomposer.org/doc/00-intro.md#globally
[01:19] <misterTom> incognito, yes!
[01:19] <misterTom> ASUS C300, 16gb.
[01:19] <somsip_> Baako: no benefit to doing that. It wouldn'
[01:19] <somsip_> Baako: no benefit to doing that. It wouldn't be in $PATH
[01:19] <Baako> cool thanks
[01:20] <advx_> Good Morning
[01:20] <incognito> Have u repartitioned the hard drive?
[01:21] <misterTom> incognito, whoops, I'm back!
[01:22] <Baako> somsip sip_ php composer.phar self-update Could not open input file: composer.phar
[01:22] <incognito> U will have to delete that chroot and make some more room on your chromebook.
[01:22] <somsip_> Baako: because you renamed it as composer (without the .phar)
[01:22] <Baako> got it
[01:22] <somsip_> Baako: and it's in your path (hopefully) so you can just run composer self-update
[01:23] <incognito> If u have repartitioned your hard drive to install chrubuntu earlier u will need to do a restore on ur chromebook.
[01:23] <misterTom> incognito, how would I go about doing that? I'm fairly certain that I had to reformat my CB today in order to enable developer mode.
[01:23] <misterTom> There probably isn't anything on it...
[01:23] <misterTom> Also, I just reformatted the SD card too.
[01:25] <incognito> sudo delete-chroot unity
[01:25] <incognito> that will roll back what u just installed
[01:25] <misterTom> removable CHROME-32 not found.
[01:26] <misterTom> I aimed it at CHROME-32 but it is now named chrome-32.
[01:26] <misterTom> Is that why it ran out of room?
[01:26] <incognito> however, if u have installed chrubuntu earlier u will need to make a usb flash drive from the image burner on chromebook.
[01:26] <misterTom> That's not very clear, sorry.
[01:26] <Baako> in the GUI when you right click and get the option and see "permission"
[01:26] <incognito> type chrome://imageburner in the browser of ur chromebook
[01:27] <Baako> you see owner "me" access "created and deletd file" group "baako" others "access file"
[01:27] <incognito> then insert a new usb flash drive in your chromebook
[01:27] <Baako> i have alot of files in a folder. i copy those files from my windows pc to ubuntu
[01:27] <incognito> make a back up image and reinstall chrome os fresh.
[01:27] <somsip_> Baako: we dont need a running commentary. Just stae the problem
[01:27] <Baako> so the permission doesn't let me access the php files
[01:27] <somsip_> *state
[01:27] <misterTom> What's the point in backing up Chrome OS?
[01:28] <misterTom> Can I just reformat and start over?
[01:28] <dagerik> i only need to run the php cli interpreter. what package should I install. i dont need apache or any other
[01:28] <incognito> u shouldnt have to aim it to chrome 32
[01:28] <somsip_> !permissions | Baako
[01:28] <Baako> i need to change the folder and all it contains
[01:28] <incognito> are u on acer c720?
[01:28] <misterTom> ASUS c300
[01:28] <misterTom> fairly new CB'
[01:28] <somsip_> dagerik: php5, but it may pull in dependencies you don't want. Not sure.
[01:28] <Busserl> dagerik: I thinkg php5 should do it, the modules are php5-cgi for example.
[01:29] <incognito> I would reformat and dont aim it to a folder.
[01:29] <misterTom> reformat the SD card? The CB?
[01:29] <incognito> just let it install the crouton to the system.
[01:29] <misterTom> I would like to install it and run it from an SD carfd.
[01:29] <EiriksUbuntu> does the gnome still not have the minimize and "minus"
[01:30] <EiriksUbuntu> well the gnome shell for 14.04
[01:30] <incognito> U will need to find out where ur sd card is at
[01:30] <misterTom> Is that even possible?
[01:30] <incognito> meaning what slot is it.
[01:30] <misterTom> What command lets me find it?
[01:30] <incognito> like /dev/sdb1 or what?
[01:30] <EiriksUbuntu> Yep you can install into ot
[01:31] <incognito> then, u will have to aim it at it.
[01:31] <incognito> df -h
[01:31] <incognito> that is when the sd card is pluged in.
[01:32] <_2_lulu> ok
[01:32] <misterTom> I believe it is @ mmcblk1
[01:32] <incognito> slide ur sd card in the slot and type df -h into the terminal
[01:33] <incognito> yeap, that sounds correct
[01:33] <_2_lulu> ok y'all talking to me
[01:33] <misterTom> oh, wait....
[01:34] <_2_lulu> wat
[01:34] <misterTom> df -h returns mmcblk1p1
[01:34] <incognito> there is a section at github that tells u about how to install aa crouton to a sd card.
[01:34] <misterTom> the insturctions I've been trying to follow can be found here: http://tomwwolf.com/chromebook-14-compedium/chromebook-crouton-cookbook/
[01:35] <Baako> [Mon Sep 08 02:33:07.077966 2014] [core:error] [pid 4443] (13)Permission denied: [client 127.0.0.1:53107] AH00035: access to /favicon.ico denied (filesystem path '/home/baako/public_html') because search permissions are missing on a component of the path
[01:35] <Baako> am confused
[01:36] <somsip_> Baako: and though I've been helping you for a while, you're going to go well off topic here. You need help from #apache
[01:36] <EiriksUbuntu> I am really enjoying the immersion in the new unity, i can't wait to get gnome going so i can get into all those sexy animations. I miss the 3D rotating workspace switcher/manager.
[01:39] <sydney> Ok,so my nauveau drivers,which i am trying out because i installed proprietary ones earlier.Well,the nauveau drivers worked fine till my login screen started to load.,when it froze. They work fine in nomodeset. Is there anything i can do?
[01:41] <Bashing-om> sydney: Proprietary driver, how did you install it, and did you UN-install it before installing nouveau ??
[01:41] <sydney> I will be right back...
[01:41] <incognito> sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -t unity -r trusty -p /media/removable/Your External Drives Name\ Drive/
[01:41] <incognito> It should be something like that.
[01:42] <incognito> https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton/issues/8
[01:42] <sydney> I used the advanced drivers window,and selected the xorg one,and clicked aplly changes.
[01:42] <misterTom> I have to go but I'll give that a shot later.
[01:42] <misterTom> Thanks so much for the help incognito.
[01:42] <incognito> https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton/issues/894
[01:42] <misterTom> I will do what I can to pay it forward.
[01:43] <sydney> heh,now i reinstalled my proprietary ones. so im back to normal. ;)
[01:43] <misterTom> If there's anything I can ever do for you I'll be back on here tomorrow.
[01:43] <misterTom> I am in your debt, truly.
[01:43] <EiriksUbuntu> how do I get GDE back? sudo apt-get install gnome-shell or GDE?
[01:43] <sydney> Bashing-om: Why,did i do something wrong?
[01:44] <misterTom> sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -t unity -r trusty -p /media/removable/Your External Drives Name\ Drive/
[01:44] <misterTom> is the back slash correct?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> sydney: Maybe not wrong .. IF one installs from OEM, that driver that is not a part of ubuntu must be removed before installing a different driver is all .
[01:45] <Baako> WARNING: Module mcrypt ini file doesn't exist under /etc/php5/mods-available
[01:45] <Baako> does php5 doesnt have mcrypt anymore
[01:45] <sydney> Bashing-om: i only got them from the proprietary driver window. ;) No where else. ;)
[01:45] <somsip_> Baako: Have you installed it?
[01:45] <incognito> sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -r trusty -t gnome,extension -p [path/to/SD Card/]
[01:45] <somsip_> !info php5-mcrypt | Baako
[01:45] <Baako> yes i did install LAMP
[01:46] <somsip_> Baako: so you didn't install the mcrypt mod yet?
[01:46] <misterTom> I don't understand the last part.
[01:46] <misterTom> and why gnome and not unity?
[01:46] <Baako> SOMSIP isnt that might to come with php?
[01:46] <somsip_> Baako: not all modules are automatically installed.
[01:46] <incognito> u can use unity if u want.
[01:47] <incognito> im just trying to give u a example.
[01:47] <Bashing-om> sydney: should be good then .. to see your card and IF the driver is installed -> sudo lshw -C display <- what is is int configuration like ?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> like/line*
[01:47] <misterTom> Ok, well I don't know my ass from my elbow anyway.
[01:47] <misterTom> What's the difference?
[01:47] <misterTom> You know what, I should find that out myself.
[01:47] <somsip_> misterTom: the elbow is the middle bit of the arm that...I'll get my coat
[01:47] <misterTom> Thank you again for everything.
[01:47] <incognito> desktop enviroment
[01:47] <misterTom> My faith in humanity has been restored by you guys.
[01:48] <misterTom> Even you, somsip_
[01:48] <somsip_> hehe
[01:48] <EiriksUbuntu> I like gnome because of the speed increase for my workflow, but the hotkeys in unity are helping, I like to tweak my gui so.
[01:48] <misterTom> You folks are truly humbling.
[01:48] <misterTom> Much love.
[01:48] <misterTom> Peace out.
[01:49] <EiriksUbuntu> kk take it easy
[01:49] <sydney> Bashing-om:  Ok,im in the noveau drivers at the second running under nomodeset... but i just installed the proprietary ones and need to reboot to aply them. here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8286458/
[01:49] <Baako> ln what does that start for?
[01:50] <somsip_> Baako: type 'man ln" in a terminal
[01:50] <Bashing-om> sydney: Looks OK, try it and see .
[01:52] <sydney> iwill reboot when im done with someting...
[01:52] <Bashing-om> sydney: k
[01:52] <sydney> done... :)
[01:54] <bish0p_> Bashing-om, It didn't work, when I tried to apt-get ubuntu-session it said it was already installed
[01:55] <sydney> Bashing-om: yay :)
[01:56] <sydney> basthe bootup is not so pretty though :(
[01:59] <Bashing-om> bish0p_: Maybe then reset compiz ? -> sudo apt-get install dconf-tools , dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ , log out and long back in to take effect .. then maybe : unity --reset-icons from terminal .
[02:00] <Bashing-om> long/log*
[02:00] <Karl9000> test! :-)
[02:01] <somsip_> !test | Karl9000
[02:01] <Bashing-om> sydney: great ! I take it all is hunky dory ?
[02:01] <bish0p_> Bashing-om, in tty?
[02:01] <Karl9000> it work!!!!  so Any solutions for de icon mail notification on xubuntu 12.04 with hotmail (ssl tsl)?  :-)
[02:01] <sydney> Bashing-om: yep ;)
[02:02] <Bashing-om> bish0p_: Yeah, want to do this outside of the GUI .
[02:02] <advx_> bye
[02:03] <bish0p_> Bashing-om, alright I'll try that.
[02:04] <xar> facebook has been crashed :o
[02:05] <EiriksUbuntu> xar when?
[02:06] <xar> EiriksUbuntu, I don't know I cannot access into it even using the mobile app, can you ?
[02:06] <EiriksUbuntu> haven't tried, not much of a fb fan
[02:07] <somsip_> xar: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/facebook.com
[02:07] <misterTom> I'm back!
[02:07] <misterTom> Sorry, incognito, what was the last line that you sent me? I seem to have lost it.
[02:07] <misterTom> something with a -p??
[02:07] <misterTom> gnome n' such.
[02:08] <EiriksUbuntu> i really need to change these hotkeys if I'm working off of unity for now
[02:09] <EiriksUbuntu> i need to tweak my touch pad, do they have it for unity?
[02:11] <EiriksUbuntu> i need to be able to pinch to get workspace switcher
[02:14] <alanjf> ampex_: I'm pretty sure milk isn't supposed to smell like tuna...
[02:15] <EiriksUbuntu> well, night all, bbs
[02:18] <samuel> whats mean software rendering ??
[02:18] <sexyboy> no harware acceleration
[02:19] <sexyboy> does the job but slow
[02:19] <misterTom> What's wrong with this?: "sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -t unity -r trusty -p /media/removable/chrome-32"
[02:19] <samuel> ?  mean that does all normal but slower ??
[02:19] <sexyboy> more or less
[02:20] <samuel> what it would be help
[02:20] <sexyboy> n/25
[02:24] <samuel> i switched between normal login and software rendering login an i see no difference
[02:25] <ioda> BR aki?
[02:26] <rww> !br
[02:26] <Baako> any game similar to lol on ubuntu
[02:26] <ioda> ok
[02:27] <ioda> dota2
[02:27] <ioda> of steam
[02:29] <samuel>  i switched between normal login and software rendering login an i see no difference. i mean all is well look nice but  which i should set as default  ??
[02:31] <Bashing-om> !manual
[02:34] <uRock> samuel, Are you using Mint or Ubuntu with cinnamon?
[02:37] <samuel> running mint,
[02:38] <uRock> !linuxmint
[02:38] <samuel> could i run  GOME 3 in ubuntu ? or what you mean whit running ubuntu whit cinnamon ?
[02:39] <BTJustice> !ubuntu-mate
[02:40] <uRock> samuel, I knew when you asked about Software Rendering, that you had either installed Cinnamon in Ubuntu or were running Mint.
[02:40] <samuel> i was just aboute to install ubuntu but i don like it have amazon by default
[02:40] <uRock> samuel, amazon is easily removed.
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> samuel: Then install one of the flavors.
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors
[02:41] <BTJustice> http://ubuntu-mate.org/
[02:41] <neldogz> hi all, i recently replaced my nvidia card on my Ubuntu 14.01 system with a card from AMD.. I made sure to roll back to the noveau driver first.. reboot.. and then Ubuntu automatically detected and installed the AMD module.. However any game I try to launch now simply crashes. Anyone experience this problme?
[02:41] <BTJustice> Ubuntu-MATE needs to be on that list because it is so awesome!
[02:41] <uRock> If Mint is working for you, then by all means, keep going with it. You may find better help in their forums. #linuxmint-help
[02:41] <samuel> hoo... i like to try that
[02:42] <lb543> neldogz: what happens if you install Windows?
[02:43] <neldogz> lb543, works fine in windows.. my machine is dual booted with Windows 7 64-bit and Ubuntu 14.01 64-bit
[02:43] <Loshki> uRock: Sorry, I must've drifted off. What does Amazon have to do with Ubuntu?
[02:43] <neldogz> lb543, just finished playing battlefield in Windows actually
[02:43] <uRock> Nevermind, there's less than 10 people in their IRC
[02:43] <uRock> Loshki, Amazon search
[02:44] <samuel> anyway i have to try Ubuntu GNOME and take a look
[02:44] <Loshki> uRock: oh, thx
[02:44] <somsip_> !adlens | samuel
[02:44] <zumba_addict> folks, what do I need to do to get ip masquerading working in Ubuntu?
[02:44] <squinty> uRock,   mint channel always has more than that number of participants.  need to log onto the spotchat irc network first
[02:45] <lb543> neldogz: what AMD card do you have?
[02:45] <neldogz> lb543, i have a 7970
[02:46] <uRock> squinty, they have 7 people in #linuxmint-help
[02:46] <squinty> neldogz,  one thing you might want to check is for an old xorg.conf left over from the nvidia install (you may have or may have not generated one)
[02:46] <squinty> uRock,  they have more moderators than that there! lol
[02:46] <neldogz> squinty, good idea
[02:46] <uRock> squinty, I am looking was just in there
[02:47] <squinty> uRock,   spent pretty close to 7 years helping out in that channel so am very familiar with it
[02:47] <uRock> familiarity doesn defeat the fact
[02:47] <lb543> neldogz: check xorg.conf first, then might have a look here -- http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1pc6ia/tip_for_ubuntu_1310_users_with_amd_graphics/
[02:48] <uRock> squinty, join and see
[02:48] <eeee>  /server irc.spotchat.org , uRock
[02:49] <squinty> uRock,  YOU join properly   i have absolutely no need too
[02:50] <somsip_> !ot | squinty uRock (less bickering, eh?)
[02:51] <uRock> thanks eeee I didn't realize I had to change servers to see. Freenode is the one that has only a hand full
[02:51] <squinty> uRock,   <squinty> uRock,   mint channel always has more than that number of participants.  need to log onto the spotchat irc network first
[02:52] <uRock> squinty, I hadn't realized they were on another server. Maybe ubottu should be updated to add that bit of info.
[02:52] <maujhsn> How many channels do they have?
[02:52] <eeee> uRock: np
[02:53] <uRock> !mint
[02:54] <uRock> or maybe I need to read the whole sentence, squinty, sorry if I ruffled any feathers
[02:54] <squinty> uRock,  np :)
[02:55] <Corvette> Ubuntu should have built-in webcam adjustment dialog
[02:55] <uRock> Corvette, file a bug report or join a team to make it happen
[02:56] <Corvette> I tried installing guvcview to adjust the brightness on the onboard webcam and all it did was make it not work
[02:56] <Corvette> I wanted to improve the webcam, now I have no webcam
[02:58] <misterTom> I'm trying to install Linux to an SD card named "chrome-32" on a Chromebook. What's wrong with this line?: "sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -t unity -r trusty -p /media/removable/chrome-32"
[02:58] <misterTom> I get this error: "sh: Can't open /home/chronos/user/Downloads/crouton"
[02:58] <misterTom> Any help would be greatly appreciated! I am a complete n00b.
[02:58] <SchrodingersScat> and crouton is a script?
[02:59] <misterTom> Yes, got it from Github I believe.
[02:59] <misterTom> goo.gl/fd3zc
[02:59] <misterTom> Found here: https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
[03:00] <squinty> Corvette,  maybe try uninstalling it and installing  luvcview   instead.  could also check cam operation in cheese, vlc (vlc > Media > Open Capture Device > Video for Linux 2 > Play)
[03:01] <kcj[work]> One Man, two graphics cards and three monitors on the forth level of hell.
[03:01] <kcj[work]> Please help.
[03:05] <blackangelpr> guys what is the safest way to delete a program installed by ppa's?
[03:05] <uRock> blackangelpr, Synaptic
[03:06] <sydney> Uninstall the program,and remove the ppa?
[03:06] <blackangelpr> yes
[03:06] <urielvigilant> There is any problem to try install Lubuntu or ubuntu 14.04 in a 6 GB ram laptop or more ?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> blackangelpr: IF the applicastion also exist in the repository -> ppa-purge .
[03:07] <BTJustice> Is there a reason why Ubuntu sometimes updates software on its own?  For instance, the current official version of BOINC Manager is 7.2.42 but the one in the Software Center is 7.4.8 ???
[03:07] <blackangelpr> Bashing-om, the one that exist do not even work any more
[03:07] <uRock> urielvigilant, are you asking if there's a problem or are you having a problem? There shouldn't be a problem, unless you're having one.
[03:08] <urielvigilant> uRock sorry my english. Iam only asking if something could go wrong
[03:09] <Bashing-om> blackangelpr: you asked " safest way to delete a program installed by ppa's? " the safwst way IF exists is with ppa-purge, then  if you want it gone from the system -> apt-get remove --purge <package_name> .
[03:09] <Corvette> squinty luvcview! that's the program I was thinking of that I intended to install in the first place
[03:10] <Corvette> squinty but it's too late now... uninstalling guvcview hasn't brought the camera back
[03:10] <uRock> urielvigilant, that shouldn't be a problem, but RAM is the last thing to look at when it comes to problems. Graphics are the usual culprit.
[03:11] <blackangelpr> Bashing-om,  works thanks
[03:12] <blackangelpr> Bashing-om,  works thanks
[03:12] <Bashing-om> blackangelpr: great! if all done remember to also remove the source from /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory .
[03:13] <urielvigilant> I upgraded my Lubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04 with out new install. This is bad ? Now that iam with 14.04 i need a clean install from 14.04.1 to stay on top of quality ? Same to 14.10 when it comes out ?
[03:16] <sydney> urielvigilant: No. 14.04 to 1404.1 just simbolizes a group of bug fixes. ;)
[03:16] <Bashing-om> urielvigilant: IF you are presently on 14.04 -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- should bring uou up to 14.04.1 ,
[03:17] <uRock> urielvigilant, If the upgrade went well, then you don't need to do a clean install. as Bashing-om pointed out, regular updates will get you to 14.04.1
[03:18] <Bashing-om> urielvigilant: Relase 14.04 is a LTS release and is supported until 2019. 14.10 is an interim release and will only have support for 9 months.
[03:19] <urielvigilant> so Its better to stay with 14.04.01, i will try to update it on console then. thanks
[03:20] <sydney> :)
[03:20] <BTJustice> Is there a reason why Ubuntu sometimes updates some of the repository software on its own?  For instance, the current official version of BOINC Manager is 7.2.42 but the one in the Software Center is 7.4.8 ???
[03:21] <sydney> It could be marked wrong,or a bug?
[03:23] <urielvigilant> ok its done. How i know iam with thet Lubuntu 14.0.1
[03:23] <urielvigilant> 14.04.1
[03:24] <BTJustice> http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/boinc is 7.4.8 but the official one is 7.2.42 at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php
[03:24] <Bashing-om> urielvigilant: -> lsb_release -a <- .
[03:25] <kcj[work]> I'm having trouble getting this triple monitor setup going.
[03:25] <kcj[work]> Could somebody assist me please.
[03:25] <kcj[work]> ?
[03:25] <urielvigilant> Bashing-om  " lsb_release -a <- . "  it sayd file or directory inesistence
[03:25] <urielvigilant> inexistence
[03:27] <uRock> urielvigilant, lsb_release -a
[03:27] <Bashing-om> check your spelling ? My output:  lsb_release -a >>Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS .
[03:27] <urielvigilant> ho sorry, thanks
[03:28] <urielvigilant> ok , it says iam with the 14.04.1
[03:28] <Bashing-om> urielvigilant: All good ? You up now on 14.04.1 ???
[03:28] <urielvigilant> yes iam!thanks
[03:28] <Bashing-om> urielvigilant: :D
[03:29] <urielvigilant> reboot better doesnit ?
[03:31] <maurer> So, I just got http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-ocaml-maint/packages/janest-core.git/ to build, and wanted to put it into a ppa, since I need it and it's not in utopic or trusty at the moment
[03:31] <maurer> However, the problem is that it won't build cleanly until packages from that are already installed
[03:31] <maurer> so the source build will fail
[03:31] <maurer> What am I supposed to do to get this into a ppa?
[03:35] <ibm_> what should i type to remove old kernels?
[03:35] <Basketball> where does libreoffice save the icons
[03:36] <ibm_> i want only the last one?
[03:37] <kcj[work]> Could anyone assist with a multi-monitor setup?
[03:38] <urielvigilant> for my future laptop what are the major disadvantages of using Lubuntu dual boot mode with windows 7 or 8 for example?
[03:39] <urielvigilant> same question for Ubuntu
[03:40] <sydney> I really cannot think of any...
[03:41] <sydney> hat do you mean by disadvantages?
[03:42] <clin> Hi how to avoid writing this kind of statements in python class: self.key1 = data['key1'] and so on where data is passed to __init__
[03:44] <sydney> what*
[03:44] <Bashing-om> ibm_: In 14.04 terminal command -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- will remove the old kernels.
[03:44] <urielvigilant> sydney : Some people say around that ubuntu in dual mode its not a pure ubuntu anyway, its danger because we can lose the grup at any moment. .
[03:44] <urielvigilant> and other stuff people say arround
[03:44] <ibm_> Bashing-om it does not
[03:44] <urielvigilant> ......" we can lose the GRub
[03:45] <uRock> urielvigilant, I've been dual booting for years. no issues.
[03:45] <uRock> urielvigilant, never had a problem with grub
[03:45] <urielvigilant> for years with out new from blank installs during years ?
[03:46] <urielvigilant> uRock
[03:46] <Guest11085> hi all
[03:46] <uRock> The only time I've lost grub is when installing Windows, which is to be expected
[03:46] <ibm_> Bashing-om i am using xubuntu xubuntu but it does not remove old linux kernels
[03:47] <Guest11085> is there a ubuntu server irc channel?
[03:47] <urielvigilant> uRock but that happen only when we try to install linux first doens it '
[03:47] <uRock> ibm, are you using synaptic?
[03:47] <Bashing-om> ibm_: Should, I have upgraded progressively from 12.04, and that command now in 14.04 does in deed on my system remove the old kernels ( I just cleaned them out recently !) .. else well, there is the apt-get remove method to remove kernels.
[03:47] <uRock> urielvigilant, the grub install during linux installs has always been fine
[03:48] <uRock> urielvigilant, as long as you are not using Wubi
[03:48] <urielvigilant> ok thanks
[03:48] <ibm_> Bashing-om i have 14.04
[03:49] <uRock> ibm_, are you using synaptic?
[03:49] <ibm_> Bashing-om 14.04 how to remove with apt-get remove
[03:49] <sydney> Guest11085: irc.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <Bashing-om> ibm_: Humm,, /boot partition full to the point that apt-get has no operating head room ? .. maybe in that case ->dpkg -P <version> will work .
[03:51] <Bashing-om> ibm_:  as apt-get command is not working, check for the space constraints -> df -h , df -i <- .
[03:52] <ibm_> Bashing-om what do you mean buy that i do not understand and what is not working
[03:52] <kudakwashe>  i instaled Ubuntu 14.04.1 - when i sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade , there are some packages held back
[03:52] <kudakwashe> now when i log in
[03:52] <kudakwashe> the software updater pops up saying there are updates
[03:52] <kudakwashe> ?
[03:52] <uRock> kudakwashe, are they still being held back?
[03:52] <kudakwashe> is there is difference between apt-get update and the gui software updater
[03:53] <sydney> kudakwashe: no
[03:53] <kudakwashe> kernel stuff
[03:53] <Bashing-om> ibm_: Just checking. the command "sudo apt-get autoremove" should have worked, as it did not, then the likely event is /boot partition full. check for that condition with -> df -h , df -i < - . then we can take a poke at removing old kernels.
[03:53] <kudakwashe> kernerl headers, kernel image etc
[03:54] <uRock> kudakwashe, use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for kernel updates
[03:54] <ibm_> Bashing-om no i ment that it does not remove but the command works
[03:55] <Guest73608> D:
[03:55] <kudakwashe> uRock: if i do that, when there's a new version of ubuntu won't it upgrade to that version?
[03:55] <uRock> kudakwashe, no
[03:55] <kudakwashe> uRock: alright, thanks
[03:55] <uRock> kudakwashe, welcome
[03:55] <Bashing-om> ibm_: OK, something wrong somewhere, we can do the apt-get remove method, 1st make sure you know the booting kernel. MUST not remove it ! do: uname - r < -.
[03:56] <ibm_> Bashing-om it should be the latest one
[03:57] <Bashing-om> ibm_: Do make sure, a mistake here will be fatal .
[03:57] <uRock> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^what Bashing-om said!
[03:58] <ibm_> Bashing-om how can i see witch one i have now
[03:59] <uRock> uname -r
[03:59] <Bashing-om> ibm_: OK, next is to get a list of all installed kernels -< dpkg -l | grep linux- .
[03:59] <energizer> Hello, when i try to run Software Updater, I get "The upgrade needs a total of 63.0 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 21.9 M of disk space on '/boot'."
[04:00] <energizer> I have plenty of hd space, what do i do?
[04:01] <Bashing-om> energizer: Join in here if a) apt-get autoremove <- is imeffective, b) do terminal command -> df -h , df -i <- to see where the space is being consumed .
[04:02] <ibm_> Bashing-om how can i use pastebin
[04:02] <Bashing-om> ibm_: sure ! .. then I can give you a crafted command to do the deed of removing the old kernels .
[04:03] <uRock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:03] <lostfile> hello
[04:03] <uRock> ibm_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:03] <uRock> hello lostfile
[04:04] <energizer> Bashing-om: autoremove doesn't do it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8287170/
[04:04] <Bashing-om> energizer: OK, wait for me a bit I have same same with ibm_ .. Be back with you soonest .
[04:05] <ibm_> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/8287177/
[04:05] <Bashing-om> ibm_: look'n .
[04:06] <Bashing-om> ibm_: Yepper, apt get has done it;s thing .. all that is left is the current booting kernel and 1 other a s a backup . you presently only have 2 kernels installed .
[04:08] <ibm_> Bashing-om what do you mean i want only one
[04:08] <shadaloo> Reading package lists... Error!
[04:08] <shadaloo> E: Malformed Description-md5 line; includes invalid character 'ab61b14fa6q7299af9f957daacudf69d'
[04:08] <shadaloo> can anyone help me fix my sources.list
[04:08] <shadaloo> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> shadaloo, that package is faulty - retrieve it again and test.  How is this a "fix the sources.list" error?
[04:09] <energizer> Bashing-om: i found this, trying it out. http://askubuntu.com/questions/142926/cant-upgrade-due-to-low-disk-space-on-boot
[04:09] <shadaloo> cfhowlett: what package/
[04:10] <shadaloo> cfhowlett: sorry i am confused
[04:10] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, sudo apt-get autoremove out to free up some /boot by removing kernels.
[04:10] <shadaloo> i just tried to apt-get update and it says E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[04:10] <cfhowlett> shadaloo, wait one
[04:10] <superkuh> I have a repeating crash. Apport is reporting the error. Only the devs related to the PPA say they aren't getting it. One field is "UnreportableReason". If this field is filled and shown in Apport does that meant he error is not actually reported?
[04:10] <ibm_> Bashing-om can i somehow do so that i have in maximum only 2 kernels and all other automated  gets remove somehow
[04:11] <Bashing-om> ibm_: that one backup might comre in real handy ! ,, highly recommnded to keep it .
[04:11] <ibm_> Bashing-om is it possible
[04:12] <cfhowlett> shadaloo, you can recreate a clean sources list : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[04:13] <Bashing-om> ibm_: as of release 13.10 the command also cleans out older kernels, leaving the current and one other.
[04:13] <shadaloo> cfhowlett: I
[04:14] <shadaloo> cfhowlett: I'm reading my sources.list
[04:14] <cfhowlett> shadaloo, paste it up
[04:14] <shadaloo> and it is completely default install
[04:14] <shadaloo> ok
[04:14] <shadaloo> good idea
[04:14] <ibm_> Bashing-om how can i in the future remove old kernels with the help of synaptic
[04:14] <cfhowlett> !paste | shadaloo
[04:14] <Bashing-om> energizer: Playong catch up with you .
[04:14] <energizer> Bashing-om: looks like that link worked
[04:14] <shadaloo> i know how to pastebin-.-
[04:14] <shadaloo> http://pastebin.com/M9NnPtNY
[04:15] <Bashing-om> ibm_: There is that method also .. but much faster and easier to just run apt-get autoremove as root and be done with it.
[04:15] <cfhowlett> shadaloo, great chinese firewall is blocking that.  use fedora's instead:  fpaste.org
[04:15] <shadaloo> lol
[04:15] <ibm_> Bashing-om can i somehow do so that i have in maximum only 2 kernels and all other automated  gets remove somehow
[04:15] <shadaloo> well
[04:15] <ibm_> Bashing-om is it possible
[04:15] <ibm_> Bashing-om can i somehow do so that i have in maximum only 2 kernels and all other automated  gets remove somehow
[04:15] <ibm_> Bashing-om is it possible
[04:15] <shadaloo> great
[04:17] <Bashing-om> ibm_: Sure one could script that and make it up as a cron job .
[04:17] <Bashing-om> energizer: You may be the victim of a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093 .
[04:18] <shadaloo> trying to fix my apt-get update, encountering the following: E: Problem opening /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[04:18] <shadaloo> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[04:19] <Bashing-om> ibm_: I have not seen if you are also a victum of the ^^ bug .. are you also using LVM ?
[04:20] <ibm_> Bashing-om i dont now
[04:20] <ibm_> Bashing-om why
[04:22] <shadaloo> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[04:22] <shadaloo> trying to fix my apt-get update, encountering the following: E: Problem opening /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[04:25] <Bashing-om> ibm_: IF you installed as LVM, there is that bug where the /boot partition is created too small . -> df -h to see <- .
[04:27] <Bashing-om> shadaloo: -> sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists , sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- .
[04:30] <shadaloo> Bashing-om: trying
[04:43] <shadaloo> Bashing-om: thanks man that worked
[04:43] <shadaloo> cheers
[04:44] <Bashing-om> shadaloo: Great .. n
[04:46] <Nautilus> how to delete a folder/directory?
[04:48] <somsip_> Nautilus: use rm or rmdir
[04:48] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: Before a directory can be remove it must be empty .. or one cane recursively remove the direcorty -> rm -R <directory> <- .
[04:49] <gorelative> question: in my sources.list i see lines for deb and deb-src, whats the difference
[04:49] <somsip_> gorelative: one provides the binary packages, one provides the source packages
[04:50] <gorelative> okay so when doing a repository mirror localling on my lan
[04:50] <gorelative> i should fetch both right?
[04:50] <Bashing-om> gorelative: the deb-src is to obtain the source code if one so desires .
[04:50] <gorelative> ahhh
[04:50] <somsip_> gorelative: depends what you want to mirror
[04:50] <Nautilus> basi: yea, thanks.
[04:50] <gorelative> apt-mirror is what im using to mirror the repos
[04:50] <gorelative> i noticed its not pulling i386
[04:51] <gorelative> when i do apt-get update it whines about anything i386 related
[04:51] <Nautilus> Bashing-om: ^ yea thanks
[04:52] <gorelative> do i need to explicitly state deb-i386
[04:52] <gorelative> and deb-amd64
[04:53] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: Humm, the 32 bit libraries have been superceed by <package>.i386, maybe that has something to do with it ?
[04:55] <onkl> yay!
[04:55] <onkl> that was easy
[04:56] <onkl> i have a weird security concern that I wanna talk about
[04:56] <Bashing-om> !ask | onk
[04:57] <Nautilus> Bashing-om: got the directory deleted but can't copy files into it.  http://pastebin.com/
[04:57] <Nautilus> oh, ooops, I missed a level of dir
[04:57] <gorelative> why am i getting these errors on an x64 host.. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/698bc95a67d7860a2f24
[04:57] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: Will look, but if the directory is deleted, the target no longer exists , no ?
[04:58] <gorelative> why would apt-get update even need to fetch i386 packages?
[04:58] <Nautilus> Bashing-om: thought I recreated it but such a pain
[04:58] <samuel_> i am back should i try to hibernate know ??
[04:58] <somsip_> gorelative: should it be devita.com ?
[04:59] <gorelative> somsip_ no mirror.devita.co is my domain
[04:59] <somsip_> k
[04:59] <gorelative> im not sure why its trying to fetch i386 info when sources.list doesnt ref that at all
[05:00] <onkl> 10-4.  I bought this laptop used from sort of a shady source and installed ubuntu on it (my very first linux experience), but when I look at disk partitions in gparted and the disk utility application, there seem to be partitions i didn't create and don't understand.  the previous owner was networking-savy, said he used this laptop as a remote desktop.  how can i see what's on a given partition so i know whether or not to delete it?
[05:00] <Nautilus> Such Wow. Cannot even copy files from hd to usb.
[05:00] <Nautilus> and people wonder why Linux isn't mainstream
[05:00] <Bashing-om> gorelative: I would surmise that there is on the system some 32 bit application(s) .
[05:01] <gorelative> okay so how do you specify i386 deb liens?
[05:01] <gorelative> lines*
[05:01] <gorelative> deb-i386?
[05:01] <onkl> in case it's not clear -- i'm super new to this
[05:02] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: My experience; short pencil beats long memory .
[05:03] <gorelative> ah my /etc/apt/mirror.list, i had to define two lines for each repo.. deb-i386 and deb-amd64
[05:03] <Nautilus> Bashing-om: hm?
[05:03] <gorelative> gotta download another 32gb lol
[05:03] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: I love linux -- takes a bit to learn the file structire, but has really saved my bacon a time or two ! .. copy files to external, is the external device mounted ?
[05:03] <Nautilus> mounted but pita at every turn
[05:04] <Nautilus> i've given up on it
[05:05] <Nautilus> just posted the files on my site, will download from $other_location tomorrow.
[05:06] <netlar> Anyone know of linux software for document management.  Something that would use folders and meta tag information?
[05:09] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: File structure is different .. but .. make a mount point to attatch the device to the file system .. as: HD #1 -> sudo mkdir /mnt/work . Mount it ! sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/work , make it your own: sudo chown Nautilus:Nautilus /mnt/work<directories> , copy to the target : cp <source> /mnt/work/<directory> // all done UNmount the devixew -> sudo umount /mnt/work . easy peasy in my book.
[05:13] <Nautilus> Bashing-om: I didnt do the chown, but I, the owner made it. Still no go
[05:19] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: If you created the directory as root (sudo) then root owns it not you . Will have to change that ownership to "you" .
[05:19] <Nautilus> stuff and stuff, yea. probably tried to make it myself but needed sudo
[05:20] <Nautilus> but really, gave up.
[05:20] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: termianal command ls -al <directory> to see the permissions and group/owner .
[05:20] <Nautilus> yeayeayea
[05:21] <Nautilus> COPY FILES
[05:21] <Nautilus> sorry, just ranting now, appreciate the feedback
[05:22] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: We are getting there ( even if a kitten insists my lap is her home ) .
[05:22] <Nautilus> nah, I gave up, that box is off
[05:22] <Nautilus> FTP'd it for tomorrow, site files live on the web, never made it to USB
[05:23]  * Nautilus recognizes when irc peeps are trying to be helpful, ty Bashing-om
[05:24] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: We pick this up again later ,, I am done anyway for this session .. eyes are blurring out on me .. think'n getting forced .. done !
[05:24] <Nautilus> nites for me too
[05:42] <purezen> Hi guys, I am using 14.04 since a while but suddenly today.. I am not able to proceed beyond the login screen..
[05:43] <purezen> I type my password there.. and the screen remains there only.. (Doesn't hang but doesn't proceed also).. Just stuck on the splash screen..
[05:50] <dagerik> i need lib32gmp3-dev but i cant find it. im on 14.04
[05:51] <uRock> dagerik, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/lib32gmp3-dev
[05:52] <dagerik> uRock: apt-get cannot find it
[05:53] <uRock> dagerik, if you aren't on Lucid, then you'll have to download and install it with dpkg or Software Center.
[05:57] <dagerik> uRock: im on 14.04
[05:57] <uRock> Download and install it from the link I posted.
[06:01] <tsimpson> dagerik: you probably want libgmp3-dev:i386 instead
[06:02] <Thc_> I got a question
[06:04] <Thc_> Ubuntu NetBoot errors around base installation anyway to fix it?
[06:06] <gorgath> My Ubuntu is running the latest stable kernel! Help! It's too up to date!
[06:06] <gorgath> 3.16.1
[06:06] <gorgath> Linux cyde 3.16.2 #1 SMP Sun Sep 7 21:41:51 EST 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:07] <gorgath> 3.16.2 I mean
[06:12] <wafflejock> Thc_: haven't used netboot but would probably need more details anyhow, as in how exactly does it fail, anything unique about the hardware, what have you done to debug etc.?
[06:13] <Thc_> I'm new to it tried everything
[06:13] <wafflejock> Thc_: also would be good to see what documentation/pages you're reading, like are you using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot ?
[06:14] <Thc_> Yes
[06:14] <Thc_> Gets to base installation then fails
[06:14] <matty_r> does ubuntu have a builtin alarm? I saw a design document on it but couldn't find it
[06:14] <matty_r> I need an alarm that will wake my laptop from sleep
[06:15] <wafflejock> Thc_: fails how, any sort of messaging, instantly reboots, hangs?
[06:15] <wafflejock> matty_r: don't think there is a built in alarm app regarding waking the laptop from sleep that depends on the hardware you have to some degree
[06:15] <Thc_> Something about packaging unpacking error
[06:16] <Thc_> Says try five times
[06:16] <Thc_> Something I'm missing
[06:16] <matty_r> wafflejock: I've already configured BIOS to allow it to wake from sleep. I just need a way to get Ubuntu to wake it. Maybe some way to have a scheduled task?
[06:16] <wafflejock> matty_r: here's one of the things related to it http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/en/man4/rtc.4.html typcially I personally use my android devices with alarm clock apps that ask me to do some math
[06:17] <wafflejock> Thc_: not sure, is it a wired connection, any chance you can get it running again and note the exact error for some googling?
[06:18] <Thc_> And Ubuntu desktop errors on installation after you set the time
[06:18] <Thc_> It is wired
[06:18] <wafflejock> Thc_: so using the netboot installation you're saying you got some package errors but then were still able to get to a desktop?
[06:19] <wafflejock> or are you just saying with the same netboot you have two different errors along the way?
[06:19] <faryshta> hi, anyone know how to configure dnsmasq?
[06:19] <Thc_> No sorry two different discs ones DVD and NetBoot I got to software install before
[06:20] <Thc_> It's new pc and it's on NetBoot on USB drive
[06:21] <wafflejock> Thc_: hmm strange... yeah I dunno I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 but after fiddling with things in KDE for a while in 12.04 I decide to switch to Gnome and just do a clean install to get rid of any old junk I typically just do the installs from DVDs cause it just typically works the best for me (consistency amount of time to burn a disc vs setup USB and get it to boot from USB etc.)
[06:22] <wafflejock> my clean install of 14.04 Gnome Ubuntu went smooth, all I can say is check the installation media (md5 checksum the ISO vs the one provided on the site, do the disc verification after burning if you burn a disc)
[06:22] <Thc_> Well tried burn to disc but DVD burner only supports 6x
[06:23] <wafflejock> aside from that maybe there's some underlying hardware issue or incompatibilty but hard to guess really
[06:23] <Thc_> It's amd 8350 processor with no os on
[06:23] <Thc_>  It
[06:24] <Thc_> It's connect to led tv via hdmi
[06:25] <wafflejock> yeah I don't thin the processor's are typically a problem really it's usually the graphics chipsets or wireless drivers that have issues, but really it sounds like you're just hitting bad memory or some sort of problem with the software
[06:25] <wafflejock> think*
[06:25] <Thc_> I don't quite get how you check mdsum can it be done on windows 7
[06:25] <wafflejock> strange thing is since about 10.04 things have been pretty solid (at least in my limited experience)
[06:26] <wafflejock> regarding md5 checksum I think ImgBurn for windows does it
[06:26] <Thc_> Ok
[06:26] <wafflejock> some of the CD/DVD burning programs will show you the md5 sum when you point at an ISO file and it should be listed with the download too usually
[06:26] <faryshta> hi, anyone know how to configure dnsmasq?
[06:27] <wafflejock> faryshta: I do not, what are you trying to do with it though?
[06:28] <Thc_> I got  iso off the Ubuntu site I don't understand
[06:28] <faryshta> wafflejock, that *.faryshta sends me to localhost
[06:28] <frankyang> 大家好
[06:29] <nrdb> what would the best method of syncing user and group ids across several VMs be?  ATM the host and the guests OSes have different names associated with the same id.
[06:29] <wafflejock> Thc_: well the md5 checksum just lets you verify what you downloaded matches what was on the server (in case something got corrupt while saving the file or during transmission something got messed up, typically over TCP this doesn't happen because the packets themselves have some checks built in as well but always good to be sure)
[06:29] <wafflejock> !ch | frankyang
[06:29] <wafflejock> oh that's not right
[06:29] <wafflejock> !cn
[06:30] <wafflejock> maybe?
[06:30] <Thc_> Oh ok
[06:30] <Thc_> I'll let you know
[06:31] <wafflejock> Thc_: yeah, otherwise if it's consistent with the failure write down as much of the error situation as you can and drop it on ubuntuforums.com then you can link to it here for others to help you figure out what's up
[06:33] <ary> fsdaf
[06:34] <wafflejock> faryshta: seems like it relies on /etc/resolve.conf or /etc/hosts in the default case to determine how to resolve some domain, not sure about wildcards in the hosts file though
[06:34] <wafflejock> faryshta: http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/setup.html
[06:35] <faryshta> wafflejock, etc/hosts doesn't support wildcards
[06:35] <wafflejock> faryshta: hmm actually http://serverfault.com/questions/118378/in-my-etc-hosts-file-on-linux-osx-how-do-i-do-a-wildcard-subdomain
[06:44] <Thc_> Where at is it I don't see it
[06:50] <wafflejock> the md5 sum?
[06:51] <wafflejock> hmm thought it showed it when it shows up people on this forum say it's after it burns http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?/topic/4919-how-to-check-with-the-md5-checksum/
[06:52] <Macer> hm. seems like after the last update ubuntu is totally screwed
[06:52] <Macer> i can login but don't get unity starting up :/
[06:52] <wafflejock> !nomodeset | Macer
[06:53] <wafflejock> ^ give that a shot maybe something got botched in your graphics drivers
[06:53] <Macer> i already set that
[06:53] <wafflejock> same behavior?
[06:53] <Macer> but it's not a gfx problem
[06:53] <Macer> it was working fine up until i completely turned the laptop off and turned it on
[06:53] <Macer> and i don't really see anything odd in the logs
[06:54] <wafflejock> Macer: you can try reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop packages if all else fails
[06:54] <Macer> i'm using the console now lol
[06:54] <Macer> well.. i'll try that and see what happens.. but this may give me an excuse to use PCBSD
[06:54] <Macer> since it supports the wifi card in this thing
[06:55] <Macer> ubuntu starts.. i get the login screen. usually with the nomodeset the screen blanks out and doesn't come back
[06:55] <Macer> when i login unity doesn't start... no sidebar etc
[06:55] <wafflejock> basically I know plymouth is used for the boot screen then it hands over to gdm/kdm/lightdm for the login screen then after that starts up the session based on whatever DE you have but aside from Xorg.conf problems or gfx problems usually
[06:55] <RoBo_V> guys any good imgur upload command line package ?
[06:56] <wafflejock> RoBo_V: not sure about command line pastebinit is good for pastes from the command line to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:56] <Macer> wafflejock: it was working fine for like.. months :) after the last base update that was pushed out it broke upon reboot
[06:56] <Macer> weirdest thing ever
[06:56] <wafflejock> RoBo_V: shutter is a nice gui for screenshots that uploads right to dropbox or imgur
[06:56] <RoBo_V> wafflejock: yes I have it, looking for images
[06:56] <Macer> i'm goign to try to run an upgrade.. maybe a bad pkg?
[06:56] <RoBo_V> wafflejock: you but just need command line "imgur upload" command thats it
[06:56] <RoBo_V> *yup
[06:57] <wafflejock> Macer: yeah I would sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, see if anything changed then sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop --reinstall (assuming you have a backup of your critical stuff already)
[06:57] <Macer> hm. doesn't look like there is anything new that would help. ah well. i tend to expect things like this from ubuntu heh
[06:57] <Macer> there's nothing on this laptop that's mission critical... heh
[06:57] <Macer> my last awesome experience with ubuntu was when i was using ubuntu server and zfs on linux
[06:57] <Macer> and it updated the kernel.. but not hte zfs modules.. and /var was mounted on the zfs :D
[06:58] <wafflejock> it's been great on the desktop for me but I bought a System76 laptop so it's all tested before I got it
[06:58] <Macer> yeah. me too up until now.
[06:58] <wafflejock> got Ubuntu on my desktop too though and it's pretty solid, only have some problems with games (they're beta too to be fair)
[06:58] <Valarkin_> macer - how hard was it to recover from that zfs failure?
[06:58] <Macer> ah well. like i said. i wanted to try out PCBSD anyways. would be nice to have a bsd based laptop os that isn't osx heh
[06:59] <wafflejock> yeah I'm interested in PCBSD too
[06:59] <Macer> Valarkin_: not hard at all.. i removed the ubuntu thumb drive it was booting from.. and put my freenas one in ;)
[06:59] <Macer> and never looked back heh
[06:59] <Macer> imported the zfs into freenas and i was back up in a few minutes.. although i lost my lxc containers but that'snot a big deal
[06:59] <darius93> do anyone know why pulse audio volume control doesnt let me select which to listen too in recording?
[06:59] <Macer> i tend to like fbsd jails better anyways
[07:00] <wafflejock> listen to the Jupiter Broadcasting stuff and one of the guys who works primarily on PCBSD is a cohost for a podcast/Youtube show BDSNow
[07:00] <Macer> wafflejock: the only problem with pcbsd on a laptop is hardware support
[07:00] <Macer> especially wifi
[07:00] <Macer> ubuntu uses the wrapper hackery to get most of them to work... pcbsd not so much heh
[07:00] <Macer> and there's no telling what else may not work without actually trying it ... i'm sure it is a lot easier to get on a desktop that doesn't need wifi tho
[07:00] <wafflejock> Macer: don't think that's true anymore, I used ndiswrapper for years there but lately it all seems to using built in drivers
[07:01] <wafflejock> but yeah linux had the same wifi issues for a long time
[07:01] <Macer> wafflejock: well. i guess. they may be getting closed blobs nowadays maybe?
[07:01] <wafflejock> yeah think so
[07:01] <Macer> either that or they're using hacked up drivers heh
[07:01] <wafflejock> yeah
[07:01] <Macer> reverse engineered offical drivers
[07:02] <Macer> but then again. most of it is isn't it? i think atheros based stuff is the only one with actual kernel src modules
[07:02] <Macer> there may be more nowadays tho. i haven't had to build a kernel in a very long time lol
[07:02] <Macer> at least i can use the console on this for now .. i just needed to ssh
[07:02] <wafflejock> maybe one day the hardware vendors will start releasing things but they consider that stuff important to their business since it can give them an edge if their drivers are trickier even if the hardware isn't as good
[07:03] <wafflejock> at least that's what I hear about the graphics card vendors
[07:03] <Macer> wafflejock: they just don't see a need to support linux unless their hardware is targeted for it
[07:03] <Macer> like storage devices probably have a ton of linux support.. but wifi stuff is mostly consumer based stuff
[07:03] <wafflejock> yeah I mean that makes sense but not open sourcing it doesn't really
[07:03] <Macer> plus they always scream IP :)
[07:03] <wafflejock> yeah that's it ^
[07:04] <Macer> that's just the way it goes. if linux really had a larger foothold then maybe you'd see more being done
[07:04] <Macer> i think the biggest problem with linux is its complete lack of centralization and uniformity
[07:04] <Macer> i mean if you build something for windows.. all windows is the same.. same for apple stuff
[07:05] <Macer> linux may have thousands of variants
[07:05] <wafflejock> Macer: eh it had a lot of growing pains for a while but most stuff is Debian, Red Hat or SuSe
[07:05] <wafflejock> I mean there are 1000 derivatives but the core of everything is the same
[07:05] <Macer> you would think ;)
[07:05] <wafflejock> I think SteamOS will help a lot if it's successful
[07:05] <Macer> but people said the same thing about java heh
[07:05] <Macer> i don't think steamos will travel very far
[07:06] <Macer> i mean not unless they do it xb1/ps4 style with exclusive awesome titles
[07:06] <wafflejock> yeah I dunno either but if it does work out it will be compelling for the graphics people to pay attention, I think that and desktop publishing software like Adobe stuff are the biggest barriers to switching
[07:06] <Macer> the only thing that makes steamos neat is you can build your own rig... but then i'm sure people will run into hardware problems unless they have the most awesome APIs ever
[07:07] <Macer> well steamOS is just for gaming isn't it?
[07:07] <Macer> i thought that was its main concentration... a diy gaming console
[07:07] <wafflejock> yeah but will lend legitamacy to graphics based stuff in Linux if it can compete with the big guys
[07:07] <Macer> all MS or Sony would really have to do to crush them.. would be to make their GPUs modular lol
[07:07] <Macer> since the GPU is all that matters in real consoles
[07:08] <Macer> if they make it so people can keep the same box and upgrade the gpu for a better gaming experience. then steamOS would pretty much be dead in the water
[07:08] <wafflejock> yeah think the main selling point really is having the steam marketplace in your device and synched between your computer and living room
[07:08] <wafflejock> also with competition between hardware vendors the prices might be reduced over time (not now)
[07:08] <Macer> if they sell a $200 box that does just as much as an XB1 it woudl be a success.. especially fi they have the games to back it
[07:09] <Macer> games that can work with a controller well that is
[07:09] <wafflejock> yeah it's still very up in the air
[07:09] <Macer> i don't think joe console is going to take to the mouse/kb very well
[07:09] <wafflejock> happy we're getting some games on Linux anyhow
[07:09] <hanasaki> any thoughts on resolving this?   most of what I found says rebuild the module... which did not help :  "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'wl': Required key not available
[07:10] <Macer> ah well.. i guess tomorrow when i get the chance i'll go ahead and install pcbsd on this laptop
[07:10] <Macer> kde isn't too bad heh
[07:10] <hanasaki> Macer:  I switched to kdm when gnome 3 came out lol
[07:10] <Macer> plus it's bsd. i'm sure it's a bit more stable than ubuntu tbh
[07:11] <wafflejock> Macer: cool well good luck with that, yeah I was digging KDE in place of Unity in 12.04, I never liked it in the past but KDE4 was pretty nice, felt far more modern than the old KDEs I've used
[07:11] <Macer> every time i have used ubuntu it is great as far as a user experience goes but you run into things like this where just updating it breaks it
[07:11] <Macer> especially major updates
[07:11] <Macer> like from 04 to 10
[07:11] <wafflejock> Macer: yeah going between versions I've had breaks for sure
[07:11] <wafflejock> Macer: never during a regular update luckily
[07:11] <wafflejock> knock on wood
[07:11] <Macer> lol.. you're going to talk it up
[07:11] <hanasaki> I have been looking at the current versions of kde and gnome on ubuntu and debian jessie
[07:12] <Macer> i honestly like qt based stuff more.. it seems a bit more uniform
[07:12] <Macer> at the very least the OK/Cancel will always be in the same place in kde based things :)
[07:12] <Macer> gtk is notorious for things being all over the place
[07:13] <hanasaki> I write my gui on html5 or java awt/swing so it doesn't much mater to me
[07:13] <Thc1> Well didnt match up
[07:13] <Macer> and i don't know what it is about gnome. but it seems a bit dated.. like motif compared to kde
[07:13] <wafflejock> Thc1: hmm k well something went bad with your burner your DVD or the download (I would guess the DVD or burner first)
[07:13] <hanasaki> Macer:  gnome3 is quite tablet / win8 like
[07:14] <Macer> hanasaki: is it?
[07:14] <wafflejock> Thc1: you can get some programs on windows that will check the md5sum of the ISO directly too if you just burned a new disc and the md5 didn't match
[07:14] <Macer> i haven't tried it tbh
[07:14] <hanasaki> any ideas on how they compare for memory bloat?
[07:14] <wafflejock> I like gnome3 just changed to it
[07:14] <Macer> all the desktop environments are bloatware
[07:14] <wafflejock> think it and KDE are pretty comparable
[07:14] <Macer> for lightweight things i just use one of the *box WMs
[07:14] <wafflejock> about 300MB
[07:14] <hanasaki> gnome3 panels are ok but no where as customizable as gnome2 or kde
[07:14] <Macer> like fluxbox or blackbox
[07:14] <hanasaki> macer box???
[07:15] <wafflejock> I mostly like the winkey to see everything launch stuff search and manage workspaces
[07:15] <Macer> hanasaki: sure. you can make them look pretty good if you take the time to configure them
[07:15] <wafflejock> the simplicity is nice after having a widget filled KDE
[07:15] <hanasaki> I wish the NeXT gui and display postscript had caught on for linux
[07:15] <Thc1> Well I put it on USB
[07:15] <Macer> hanasaki: lol... wow.. next.. that's a blast from the past
[07:15] <Macer> you can always use osx :P
[07:15] <wafflejock> yea NeXT died a firey death
[07:16] <Macer> that's because steve got his job back
[07:16] <Macer> and turned next into osx heh
[07:16] <hanasaki> reincarnated as Mac OSX ... it lives :)
[07:16] <Macer> so do you think apple sticks with X forever?
[07:16] <Thc1> Tried DVD and cd
[07:17] <hanasaki> would love to get osx running on vbox, kvm
[07:17] <Macer> i don't think there's ever going to be an OS XI
[07:17] <Macer> hanasaki: i thought you can run it in VMs nowadays
[07:17] <wafflejock> what're they at 10.8?
[07:17] <Macer> it's not that good anyways.. i never really liked osx
[07:17] <wafflejock> yeah I did the hackintosh thing cause I needed the uploader to submit to their app store and can only get it on OS X
[07:17] <wafflejock> that was annoying
[07:17] <Macer> the ui really isn't that great.. and omg that hfs+ fs that splits metadata over smb shares drove me crazy
[07:18] <Thc1> Would it be easier to upgrade from 12.
[07:18] <wafflejock> Thc1: no typically a clean install is the best way to go
[07:18] <Thc1> How do you do that
[07:19] <wafflejock> Thc1: well I mean what you're trying to do, installing 12.04 just to upgrade to 14.04 isn't generally a better way to go
[07:19] <Macer> ah well.. thanks anyways. i'm off to ponder installing pcbsd... think i'll do it in a little whiel... i wonder if  i can just dd the .iso to a thumb drive and boot it to install
[07:19] <Macer> take care ;)
[07:20] <hanasaki> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'wl': Required key not available
[07:20] <hanasaki>    <= thoughts on the issue/fix ?
[07:20] <Thc1> Well no luck just getting Ubuntu 14.04 lts up and running
[07:20] <wafflejock> Thc1: so which md5sum did you check the ISO file you downloaded doesn't match the one on the site? or ?
[07:20] <Thc1> Ubuntu.com
[07:21] <Thc1> Where the md5sum is
[07:21] <wafflejock> hanasaki: http://ww1.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1634883 some steps in the second to last post here might be relevant
[07:21] <wafflejock> Thc1: vs the download file?
[07:21] <wafflejock> downloaded*
[07:22] <wafflejock> if those are different then you need to redownload the ISO
[07:22] <hanasaki> wafflejock: I found the same posting... rebuilt and stillno luck.... worked on 3.16.1 and still does on reboot.   doesn't work on the new 3.16.2 I just built... same .config file for the build
[07:22] <Thc1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntuhashes
[07:23] <Thc1> I'm redownloading now
[07:23] <wafflejock> Thc1: yah but you said that doesn't match, what didn't it match (like how'd you get the MD5 sum on windows?)
[07:24] <Thc1> It was program called winmd5free
[07:24] <wafflejock> ah k so you checked the ISO file you downloaded and it didn't match
[07:24] <Thc1> I downloaded on my other computer
[07:25] <Thc1> Yes
[07:25] <wafflejock> yeah sounds like corrupted download or file transfer or something messed it up then
[07:25] <wafflejock> makes sense you would have problems if something got botched there
[07:26] <Thc1> I wonder if I should hard wired this system
[07:26] <Thc1> It's on wifi
[07:26] <wafflejock> typically it's not a problem but I just trust wired more when it comes to moving large files (and it's just so much faster on the LAN)
[07:26] <wafflejock> also with the netboot thing I figured flakey wifi drivers or something might add to the problem
[07:26] <Thc1> But wireless router like 5feet from it lol
[07:27] <Thc1> Well giving me different download speeds now
[07:27] <wafflejock> yeah you still get everyone elses router noise and whatnot, I'm in an apartment this place is full of routers
[07:27] <Thc1> Considering before it was faster
[07:28] <Thc1> So it might of download right if not I'm going hard wired it
[07:28] <Thc1> I'm in a house
[07:29] <pombreda> Hi :) given an install, would there be a way to create easily a script that would collect all install packages version to reinstall extactly the same packages on another host? (possibly a combo of bin and src debs?)
[07:29] <Thc1> Could be main problem maybe the corrupted file is the base
[07:29] <pombreda> *all installed
[07:29] <Thc1> Just my luck
[07:31] <somsip_> pombreda: YMMV http://is.gd/uqTX8I  https://github.com/fsmithred/scripts/blob/master/get-selections.sh
[07:34] <Thc1> I'm talking about current pc I down
[07:34] <Thc1> Download iOS off it and other one has hard wire on it
[07:40] <RoBo_V> how to install it : https://github.com/jomo/imgur-screenshot
[07:41] <somsip_> RoBo_V: download the *.sh, run the check in the README.
[07:43] <wafflejock> haha was talking too much about everything being smooth here, Comcast decided to restart something
[07:43] <RoBo_V> somsip_: yes but  error coming up
[07:43] <bolland> hi #ubuntu, I have severe constant usb mouse pointer lag with all tested modern ubuntu live cds, but not with 9.04 or with windows. I'm out of luck googling, any debug advice?
[07:43] <somsip_> RoBo_V: it's not suported software so log an issue with the author if you want help
[07:45] <RoBo_V> somsip_:  okk
[07:45] <wafflejock> bolland: have you tried different mice as well or a touchpad (any alternative pointing devices to see if it's a device specific problem?)
[07:46] <Thc> Comcast sucks in my opinion
[07:46] <wafflejock> bolland: also might want to look into xinput --list it has a lot of things you can tweak on a per hardware basis
[07:47] <wafflejock> Thc: yeah I'm in between, it's like Verizon, very expesnive generally the best available... still not super impressed
[07:47] <bolland> wafflejock, yes I've tried several thanks
[07:47] <bolland> ok thx will try xinput --list
[07:47] <awestroke> I have a few VPS instances running Ubuntu Server running 12.10, and I want to upgrade them to 14.04. I tried following community/QuantalUpgrades but "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" says packages cannot be downloaded: https://gist.github.com/awestroke/28c2a0a84eed66c9b9b5
[07:47] <Thc> Verizon good for phone but not Internet
[07:47] <hanasaki> is there a totally open source linux solution that uses spice and has a workstation login like the thin hardware for PCOIP?  just no vmware servers :)
[07:48] <wafflejock> Thc: to be fair I'm probably one of the only customers on at 2:30am on the regular when they decide to do updates or whatever that boots me
[07:48] <hanasaki> like... login and it starts a vm for you
[07:48] <awestroke> Can I upgrade in any other way or should I back up and do a clean install?
[07:48] <hanasaki> hosted by ubuntu linux
[07:49] <Thc> Waffles the new computer is hard wired and this one is wifi I. Download iso on this one
[07:49] <Thc> Think today I'll hard wire it
[07:51] <Thc> Are wires still cat5 or they changed?
[07:51] <wafflejock> Thc: cat5e or cat6 I think for gigabit
[07:52] <Thc> Does it matter?
[07:52] <wafflejock> pretty much the same though just different shielding and I think thicker wires in the cable the punchdown is the same
[07:52] <wafflejock> Thc: I think you'll lose some speed/signal quality but the hardware will compensate
[07:52] <Thc> 11 mins then I'll check this iOS
[07:52] <awestroke> I got it working, changed archive.* to old-releases.* in my sources.list
[07:53] <Thc> USO
[07:53] <Thc> USO
[07:53] <Thc> U
[07:53] <Thc> Iso
[07:53] <wafflejock> hah ah okay
[07:53] <Thc> Damn suggestion crap
[07:54] <wafflejock> hehe yeah autocomplete our best friend as geeks :)
[07:54] <wafflejock> never knows what I'm trying to mumble
[07:54] <Thc> Lol
[07:55] <wafflejock> it's okay since the people I'm writing don't know what I'm talking about anyhow either :)
[07:55] <Thc> Never had this problem with windows
[07:55] <Thc> Lol
[07:56] <Thc> But it's not free to download and I'll support it after its on my system
[07:57] <Thc> I hope xbmc isn't a pain to put on it lol
[07:58] <dustin> dir
[07:58] <wafflejock> yeah xbmc is still solid
[07:58] <wafflejock> they're changing the name to kodi I hear
[07:58] <wafflejock> dustin: wrong OS and wrong window :)
[07:59] <Thc> Kodi hmmm
[07:59] <Thc> Last one I mess with was Gotham
[08:00] <wafflejock> yeah dunno think they just want to escape the association with m$ to avoid any litigation, kodi seems alright to me, not as hardcore sounding as xbmc, never heard of Gotham was that a version of xbmc or something?
[08:01] <helmut_> hi
[08:01] <wafflejock> hello
[08:02] <Thc> Yeah
[08:03] <Thc> Kodi is ok name it's code name like Xbox 360 has
[08:04] <wafflejock> yeah they explain it all here http://xbmc.org/introducing-kodi-14/
[08:04] <Thc> Helix is code name of next xbmc I mean Jodi
[08:04] <Thc> Jodi
[08:05] <Thc> Kodi
[08:05] <Thc> Damn
[08:05] <wafflejock> hah, yeah I getcha but they're actually fully changing the name not just code naming it
[08:05] <wafflejock> see the link for details but basically cutting ties from the original stuff made to run on the old xbox since that support is gone anyhow
[08:06] <Thc> Yeah as Long as it does same thing
[08:06] <wafflejock> yup
[08:06] <wafflejock> I tried it on my Raspberry Pi, it was alright but the Pi has trouble making it run smooth (video was fine navigating the UI was clunky)
[08:06] <wafflejock> on my laptop it's super snappy though and finding media is super simple
[08:06] <Thc> I don't care about name change better than boxee and plex
[08:07] <wafflejock> yeah agree
[08:07] <wafflejock> more friendly sounding
[08:08] <Thc> Boxee sounds like someone got high and started naming
[08:08] <rockwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8288450/   guyz i am facing this error when i am trying to access my web server   --->http://paste.ubuntu.com/8288450/
[08:08] <Thc> Thinking about Ubuntu on android but dunno yet
[08:09] <rockwood> Thc: guyz i am facing this error when i am trying to access my web server   --->http://paste.ubuntu.com/8288450/
[08:09] <Thc> Might get demo android and play around with it
[08:10] <rockwood> help me please
[08:10] <VictorCL> hi , how can I install an eot font in ubuntu?
[08:11] <rockwood> i am incorrect channel for help about ubuntu
[08:11] <somsip_> rockwood: your permission are probably wrong in your DocumentRoot
[08:12] <somsip_> !ask | rockwood
[08:12] <rockwood> somsip_:  how to change it ?
[08:12] <somsip_> rockwood: find out what's wrong first. what are the permissions?
[08:13] <rockwood> by what command i can chek my folder permission
[08:13] <rockwood> somsip_: by what command i can chek my folder permission
[08:13] <somsip_> rockwood: ls -la /var/
[08:13] <ikonia> rockwood: step back for a moment
[08:13] <rockwood> wait a mint
[08:13] <ikonia> rockwood: if you don't know how to check the file permissions - you shouldn't try to run a webserver
[08:14] <ikonia> rockwood: visit https://help.ubuntu.com look at the basics and the server guide
[08:14] <fl8sh123> Hello all.  When linking my Ubuntu server to run off my godaddy domain, do I use the hostname I created on Ubuntu into the A-records on godaddy?
[08:14] <ikonia> rockwood: get a little more basic understanding
[08:14] <wafflejock> Thc: yeah definitely something to do on a play phone not the main one, but would like to check it out too actually (have an old Galaxy Nexus I could use too, had to upgrade cause of carrier switch but it's still a nice device)
[08:14] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: no you use the IP of the machine
[08:14] <somsip_> fl8sh123: where is your ubuntu server hosted?
[08:14] <ikonia> Fbigun: you use the ip address for an A record, or the FQDN for a CNAME
[08:14] <fl8sh123> somsip: at my house
[08:15] <fl8sh123> I am using my public IP address and forwarded the port on my router for my servers ip
[08:15] <ikonia> oops that was fro fl8sh123
[08:15] <somsip_> fl8sh123: so you need something like DynDns or noip unless you have a static IP from your ISP
[08:15] <Fbigun> ls
[08:15] <Fbigun> clear
[08:15] <ikonia> fl8sh123: A record = IP CNAME = FQDN
[08:15] <rockwood> somsip_:  drwxr-xr-x  3 root root     4096 Sep  6 15:11 www
[08:15] <somsip_> fl8sh123: and your public IP will be the A record
[08:15] <fl8sh123> I have static set on my router...well for godaddy I need to enter the ipaddress as well as host name
[08:16] <ikonia> fl8sh123: you do not need a hostname in an A record
[08:16] <rockwood> ikonia: i am new for linux
[08:16] <fl8sh123> let me double check this
[08:16] <fl8sh123> "Host is the domain name or subdomain to which the record applies."
[08:16] <rockwood> ikonia: i am new for linux base os
[08:16] <fl8sh123> that is required
[08:16] <rockwood> fl8sh123:  asking from me
[08:17] <Fbigun> ping rockwood
[08:17] <fl8sh123> rockwood: frin anybody that can help my confusion
[08:17] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: where are you in the Godaddy interface?
[08:17] <ikonia> rockwood: I understand
[08:17] <ikonia> rockwood: take a step back and learn a little more about the basics
[08:17] <ikonia> rockwood: which is why you shouldn't be running a web server yet
[08:17] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: generally in the DNS zone file editor page you just add in the IP
[08:17] <ikonia> rockwood: the URL I gave you should give you a good introdution
[08:18] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: under one of my domain names - DNS Zone File
[08:18] <thc_> they match now what do i check?
[08:18] <ikonia> fl8sh123: talk to go daddy
[08:18] <rockwood> Fbigun:  drwxr-xr-x  3 root root     4096 Sep  6 15:11 www  ping is replying fine
[08:18] <ikonia> fl8sh123: we are not going to support their interface/process
[08:18] <fl8sh123> ikonia: ok thank you
[08:18] <ikonia> fl8sh123: you need an A record pointing at your ubuntu IP - ask go daddy how to set that up
[08:18] <Metallrrow> hi :D
[08:18] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: host is @ in my A record on GoDaddy Points To is the IP of the machine
[08:18] <fl8sh123> do I need to do any work other than installing and configuring LAMP to have it up and running as a webserver?
[08:19] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: you should test the local web server before dealing with forwarding the domain
[08:19] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: local works
[08:19] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: I've been attempting this for a week and my brother just told me about this
[08:20] <thc_> waffles they check out same 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd
[08:20] <fl8sh123> IRC
[08:20] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: if that is running and the port is forwarded on the router (port 80 to the local machine) then it should work, you may have issues with your ISP though
[08:20] <wafflejock> thc_: nice
[08:20] <Metallrrow> so, ern.. :D how u guys doin'
[08:20] <thc_> now what do i check?
[08:20] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: ah yeah the IRC has been hear since the beginning :)
[08:20] <wafflejock> thc_: if the md5 sum is the same the bits are the same in the download
[08:20] <thc_> yeah irc was before bulletin boards hehe
[08:21] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: ok so if I have multiple computers linked to my router but only have my servers IP forwarded I should be fine?
[08:21] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: yeah if the port forwarding on the router redirects the traffic to the computer on the LAN with apache running it'll be able to respond
[08:21] <thc_> i was around when the www was discovered and recoreds was out hehe
[08:21] <thc_> records*
[08:21] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: thank you very much
[08:22] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: np
[08:22] <fl8sh123> thank you everybody...time to try this
[08:22] <thc_> wafflejock: so what is the next step
[08:23] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: yeah for the record I use AWS for hosting my stuff so you don't have any restrictions like the ISP puts on residential customers (blocking e-mail traffic etc.), you may also want to check out DigitalOcean.com they do relatively cheap virtual private servers you can mess with
[08:23] <wafflejock> thc_: just burn to disc and if you use imgburn it should verify the md5sum again for you and can verify the disc (reread it after burning to verify it matches the ISO data) if all that works out you should have a definitely good disc
[08:24] <wafflejock> imgburn should have an option for the verify after burning
[08:24] <thc_> one problem my dvd burner dont burn 4x
[08:24] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: I have looked into that but I am being pushed to host multiple websites so I need to show that I can get one up
[08:24] <thc_> is that going be a problem
[08:24] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: if I can get this working I will have a static line paid for
[08:25] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: hosting multiple sites on one server isn't a problem I'd just be concerned about the ISP bringing the hammer down :)
[08:25] <thc_> yea most isp sucks
[08:25] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: I have about 10 sites on my medium AWS instance and it does our small business e-mail and is my git server and runs jenkins builds for the websites I build
[08:25] <thc_> like comcast,and mediacom
[08:25] <ikonia> fl8sh123: thats the bottom line - however this is beyond the scope of this channel
[08:25] <ikonia> fl8sh123: you should not be hosting websites on home grade internet connections
[08:25] <ikonia> you're free to host what you want, where you want
[08:26] <thc_> lol to name a few that i wouldnt recommend
[08:26] <fl8sh123> ikonia: thank you for the advice
[08:26] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: from what I'ver seen on DigitalOcean is they charge for uptime
[08:26] <Valarkin_> Doesn't a lot of that depend on where you are in the world? We don't have the same restrictions on use here in DK
[08:26] <thc_> i like to stream and download
[08:27] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: they have flat rate $5 per month deals too I think
[08:27] <hanasaki> my wifi is not runing...  getting the following erroro.    how to determine the cause and fix? modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'wl': Required key not available
[08:27] <hanasaki>  
[08:27] <thc_> i got suspended on comcast for downloading too much lol go figure
[08:27] <thc_> att repp said if your going stream dont get comcast they cant handle netflix
[08:27] <thc_> lol
[08:27] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: that sounds good.  I don't like have to keep tabs on what I owe due to usage
[08:27] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: AWS it's based all on usage and is about $30 a month for 1 medium server for me (medium being 1.5 GB of RAM ~1.7Ghz processor but it's solid for web hosting)
[08:27] <wafflejock> yeah
[08:28] <thc_> thats not bad
[08:28] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: Amazon Web Services?
[08:28] <wafflejock> yeah it's not terrible really and the snapshot feature is really nice to make me feel less paranoid about upgrades
[08:28] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: yup
[08:29] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: why did you choose them over Digital?
[08:29] <wafflejock> I just heard about them first then after trying digital ocean it was marginally slower than AWS in my limited testing
[08:29] <imagination_stat>  /leave #ubuntu
[08:30] <tk456> is there an isp in the northwest that's better than charter?
[08:30] <thc_> wafflejock:is it going error because the speed of the burning?
[08:30] <tk456> i remember when i had dsl with qwest, they could put a 24hr check on my line for hacking attemps
[08:30] <thc_> or should i trust the usb drive again?
[08:31] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: Thank you for all of the input
[08:31] <wafflejock> thc_: it might but the verify disc feature in most burning apps should catch the problem
[08:31] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: np good to chat it out with people and hear other opinions
[08:32] <wafflejock> thc_: regarding USB you can do it if that typically works for you, I've had problems with various BIOSes not liking booting off of various USB sticks so I usually go DVD if it's an option
[08:32] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: last question before a cig...if I change my port for port forwarding to something other than 80, do I need to do anything on my server to make it work?
[08:32] <zaita_go> how i can download tor only?no firefox
[08:33] <wafflejock> fl8sh123: you'll want to dig around in /etc/apache to see the configuration files, somewhere in there (think it's in ports.conf now) they have "Listen 80" so if you change the port it's being forwarded to you'll need to change that and restart apache, sudo service apache2 restart
[08:33] <fl8sh123> wafflejock: k. thanks again
[08:34] <thc_> wafflejock: how do you check to see if it burnt the iso right?
[08:35] <wafflejock> thc_: usually just a verify disc checkbox in the burning apps, not sure in imgburn though it's been a while
[08:35] <wafflejock> I've been in ubuntu land for about 2 years and have left windows behind aside from a little gaming here or there
[08:35] <darklessness> elo
[08:35] <darklessness> whats up
[08:36] <thc_> dont u think by now they got emulator for windows on linux lol
[08:36] <wafflejock> chillen but really need to knock out here
[08:36] <thc_> they do for linux on windows
[08:36] <wafflejock> thc_: well you can use wine or you can virtualbox it
[08:36] <wafflejock> but it doesn't perform as well in virtualbox since it's not using native drivers to access all the hardware directly
[08:36] <thc_> how good is it though
[08:37] <thc_> oh i see
[08:37] <wafflejock> it's good enough for photoshop
[08:37] <wafflejock> not good enough for games
[08:37] <RoBo_V> imgur uploader command line, anyine can help  or recommend..
[08:37] <RoBo_V> ?
[08:38] <thc_> well im hoping this works
[08:38] <somsip_> RoBo_V: I told you to log an issue with the author of that script
[08:38] <thc_> if not i guess the usb drive going be put in use
[08:38] <rockwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8288604/
[08:38] <thc_> or netbooting again this time check md5sum
[08:39] <thc_> wow how did it write at 1x
[08:39] <thc_> thats weird
[08:39] <RoBo_V> somsip_: thats ok but looking for other options now
[08:39] <thc_> is there a way to check to see if the iso burn on disc right ?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> thc_, md5sum the burned disc
[08:41] <fz> H
[08:43] <thc_> how do you do that? lol
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | thc_ read the link - it says "check cdrom" but same method for checking DVD, USB ...
[08:44] <rune__> thc_ yesterday I search solution with flash on the elementary distro and all was fake
[08:45] <rune__> somebody help me with flash in the elementary_
[08:45] <cfhowlett> rune__, elementary OS is not supported here.  sorry.
[08:46] <rune__> which channel or serwer freenode and elementary channel
[08:46] <cfhowlett> !flavors | rune__
[08:46] <cfhowlett> rune__, that info should be on elementary's website
[08:53] <thc_> brb check this dvd
[08:53] <sherbrooke> ll
[09:13] <pagios> how can i assign a dynamic ip on a new virtual interface?
[09:13] <pagios> from command line
[09:13] <pagios> ifconfig eth0:1 up does not work
[09:13] <Kira9204> pagios: configure it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:14] <pagios> i dont want to reboot,
[09:14] <pagios> from command line.
[09:14] <Kira9204> i dont think you have to
[09:14] <Kira9204> but ifconfig will do the job
[09:15] <pagios> you mean just do a dhclient eth0:5 ?
[09:15] <pagios> it needs to be listed in ifconfig -a
[09:16] <pagios> ip link set dev eth0:6 up does not complain but does not list it either in ifconfig -a
[09:16] <indn1234> Hey! Can I modify a partition which has Ubuntu already installed on it? Will it break the existing OS?
[09:17] <Kira9204> pagios: ifconfig will only list interfaces from the interfaces file
[09:17] <cfhowlett> indn1234, boot a live ubuntu usb, make your changes - carefully.  won't break the OS.
[09:17] <pagios> not true
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !who
[09:17] <pagios> Kira9204: if you dont know dont fuckin provide wrong info in the channel
[09:18] <cfhowlett> pagios, *language* please!
[09:18] <Kira9204> ok then i was wrong
[09:18] <indn1234> cfhowlett: I have a 500GB HDD with a single primary partition, with Ubuntu on it. I want to dual boot install Win 8. Should I create a primary partition or a new extended parition?
[09:19] <zubairahmed> indn1234 go ask in windows support forum :P
[09:19] <indn1234> zubairahmed: come on!
[09:19] <cfhowlett> indn1234, alternative plan: shrink your ubuntu to 250 (?).  leave the rest of the space empty and unformatted.  use windows tools to format it.  NOTE: installing windows WILL wipe out your ubuntu booloader.  you'll need to reinstall grub to get it back.
[09:21] <zubairahmed> Go for clean install windows then install ubuntu alongside
[09:21] <indn1234> cfhowlett: will shrinking it to 250GB cause the Swap, root and home partition to modify in ANY way?
[09:21] <indn1234> zubairahmed: I don't install Ubuntu all over again.
[09:22] <indn1234> I don't want to *
[09:22] <cfhowlett> indn1234, plan on moving the /swap and /home.  BACKUP your data first.  I've done what you're describing.  worked without the need for reinstall BUT ... backup!
[09:23] <indn1234> cfhowlett: what do you mean "plan on moving"?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> indn1234, shrinking the space means data must move.
[09:24] <Kira9204> pagios: i am not an expert on the subject, but i always add the interface and relevant information to the interfaces file and do an ifdown <int> && ifup <int> (dont do this on a live ssh interface)
[09:24] <indn1234> cfhowlett: so, do I have to move the data myself?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> indn1234, no but ... backup!  (notice a common theme here?)
[09:25] <ubuntu-studio> hi,everyone
[09:25] <fl8sh123> How do you change keyboard layout for Ubuntu?
[09:25] <indn1234> cfhowlett: I already have a data backup, but I will have to install all the programs again, if it does go wrong.
[09:26] <ubuntu-studio> may i ask some question?
[09:26] <indn1234> Also, primary parition or extended?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> indn1234, right.  *SHOULD* work but be safe.  primary partitions.
[09:26] <indn1234> ubuntu-studio: don't ask to ask. Just ask.
[09:26] <cfhowlett> !ask | ubuntu-studio,
[09:26] <zubairahmed> fl8sh123 on login screen you can
[09:26] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[09:27] <fl8sh123> zubairahmed: Thank you. Got it
[09:28] <indn1234> cfhowlett: so, shrink single partition, create new primary from free space,. install win8, install grub. Correct? Am I missing something?
[09:28] <indn1234> Also, Gparted for shrinking and creating a new parition?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> indn1234, gparted, yes.
[09:29] <indn1234> This is what I have ATM: http://imgur.com/Y2AO0vW
[09:29] <ubuntu-studio> when i use make startup disk,it occurs that there is not enough free space for this image,then i begin to erase it,but it take so long time...
[09:30] <indn1234> can you have a look at that, cfhowlett ^ ?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> indn1234, yep.  so when you're done (and this will take probably an hour or so), you should have 250 GB or so unallocated.
[09:30] <cfhowlett> indn1234, I'm in China - slow ISP.
[09:30] <ubuntu-studio> looks it's still,what should i do?
[09:31] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, startup disk = USB?
[09:31] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett,yeah
[09:33] <k1l_> ubuntu-studio: make sure you start a live system to resize the partitions
[09:33] <ubuntu-studio> i want to install ubuntu studio by using usb, however, i met a problem that error 5 input output error
[09:33] <k1l_> indn1234:  make sure you start a live system to resize the partitions
[09:34] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, you need at LEAST 2 GB and more is better.  mount the USB, delete all files - inlcuding hidden - and install.  i/o error suggests a bad USB.  that does happy.
[09:34] <k1l_> sorry ubuntu-studio wrong nickname
[09:35] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett, you mean that my usb has some problem, namely that my usb cannot store things?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, yep/
[09:36] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, you can try a different port, though
[09:37] <ubuntu-studio> k1l_, i'm run my pc in live session.
[09:39] <k1l_> ubuntu-studio: did you chck the .iso images md5sum? did you check your hardware disk like i suggested yesterday?
[09:39] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett, oh, when i install ubuntu, i erased my win8.1 . so, i'm homeless...
[09:39]  * cfhowlett assumes EVERYONE knows to verify the iso and the usb ...
[09:41] <ubuntu-studio> k1l_ , when i install the system at the first time, i erase the old system. now , i 'm homeless...
[09:42] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, understood
[09:42] <ubuntu-studio> just so happy...
[09:43] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett, so, what should i do?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, borrow a computer.  verify the iso.  make the usb.  verify the usb.  boot YOUR computer and install.
[09:44] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett, it sounds great, thanks.
[09:45] <ubuntu-studio> k1l_, thanks.
[09:46] <indn1234> k1l_: live system means before OS boot, correct?
[09:47] <cfhowlett> indn1234, no it means "try ubuntu" from the USB
[09:47] <k1l_> indn1234: you cant resize that stuff when the system you are using is running from that partitions. so you need a live cd or a live -usb
[09:50] <indn1234> cfhowlett: k1l_ that is essentially what I was trying to say. Thanks.
[09:51] <cfhowlett> indn1234, always good to verify.  what you're doing is "routine" but proceed carefully.  and ... backup!
[09:51] <superdumb> hi
[09:51] <superdumb> when i start parted magic it doesnt find my mouse and i wanted to ask if somebody knows how to use parted magic with keyboard only
[09:52] <superdumb> i tried to use the keyboard commands on their site ,but none of them worked.
[09:52] <superdumb> can somebody pls help me how to guide me with keyboard only in parted magic
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !patience | superdumb
[09:52] <superdumb> i didnt repeat myself
[09:53] <karab44> hello
[09:53] <karab44> what does 'restore missing files' nautilus option do?
[09:54] <indn1234> join android
[09:56] <Fbigun> 国际惯例
[09:57] <Fbigun> ／join #linux
[09:58] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett, how can i check md5 in live session
[09:59] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, you can verify the .iso from a booted USB.
[09:59] <gregtom6> hy all
[09:59] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | ubuntu-studio, to verify the USB, you need to boot a different computer/OS
[10:00] <gregtom6> with installation of wubi, is that already solved to be able to refresh the kernel? or that cause kernel panic now too?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, wubi ?!  unsupported, inadvised and all around BAD idea.  also: incompatible with 14.04
[10:01] <k1l_> gregtom6: scratch wubi. make a real install
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !wubi
[10:01] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: I'm afraid of creating a partition inside of another partition (decrease the previous windows partition's size)
[10:02] <gregtom6> *no windows partition, data partition, sry
[10:02] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, "fear is the mind-killer ..."
[10:02] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: what do you think, why am I afraid?
[10:03] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: there are a lot of datas in that partition
[10:03] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, so ... "backup" and install a proper dual boot.
[10:03] <k1l_> gregtom6:  if the data is important you should have a backup anyway. since hdds can break anytime on the hardware site
[10:03] <cfhowlett> ^^^ this ^^^!
[10:04] <gregtom6> k1l_: sure, but I don't really want to lose my data disk anyway, with backup too
[10:04] <gregtom6> k1l_: that's sad wubi doesn't perfect...
[10:05] <Guest52276> unto whom
[10:05] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, yep.   people over here in Beijing want to sue msoft for no longer supporting xp.  Things do change.
[10:06] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: but I would rather use Windows instead of Ubuntu, because a lot of things supports Windows, and not Linux...
[10:06] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, so ... use windows.  why are you even here?
[10:06] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: and when I will in hurry and something won't work in Linux, I would be very very angry
[10:07] <jpavlick> Ladies and gents, I think I'm an idiot. I think I have some malware on my laptop. I have no idea how it happened, but almost every link I click on in firefox, chrome, and chromium brings up a popup.
[10:07] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, 1.  you are no idiot.
[10:07] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: because I only want to try Ubuntu for a half year, near using with Windows
[10:07] <k1l_> gregtom6: wubi is going to break. an if you are not lucky it will brake windows, too. so from the experience in this channel: make a real install
[10:07] <jpavlick> Every website has some <iframe> and <script> from like storage.com or easycounter.com or some garbage that *shouldn't* be there.
[10:07] <simonjr> hi everyone
[10:07] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, 2.  if only the browser is compromised, it's fairly easy to clean.
[10:07] <jpavlick> cfhowlett: I have tried reinstalling chrome to no avail.
[10:08] <simonjr> I am still having problem with my front audio jack plugin it doesn't work
[10:08] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, purge the browser, including your /home/.hiddenfileshere   and reinstall
[10:08] <simonjr> when I plug in the headphones it doesn't detect my headphone at all
[10:08] <jpavlick> cfhowlett: ok let me try that
[10:08] <simonjr> I did the configuration change on alsa
[10:09] <simonjr> still the same issue no sound on the front audio jack
[10:09] <jpavlick> cfhowlett: still there, man.
[10:10] <simonjr> I reinstall the alsa lib 1.0.25
[10:10] <jpavlick> I'm getting an img tag and a 1 width iframe
[10:10] <simonjr> i think it is the latest driver for ubuntu 14.04
[10:10] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, enable ufw and add adblock plus to the browser
[10:10] <jpavlick> even if I point it at ~/hello_world.html
[10:10] <simonjr> do you think my board soundcard is not compatible for ubuntu ?
[10:10] <simonjr> I have to rely on windows xp front audio jack
[10:11] <simonjr> my buildin sound card is via chip realtek
[10:11] <simonjr> sorry via chip realtek audio
[10:11] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, if you have enough ram, you could install virtualbox to windows, install 32 bit ubuntu to vbox.  STILL not as good as dualboot, but WAY safer than wubi
[10:12] <simonjr> I can listen clearly through the back audio jack
[10:12] <simonjr> using my 2.1 channel speakers
[10:12] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett, k1l_,thank you
[10:12] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: since I would use ubuntu because windows could not work with an outdated bluetooth driver, I can't use virtualbox right now
[10:13] <gregtom6> so I will decrease the size of an existing partition or buy an external HDD for Ubuntu
[10:13] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, sounds like ...
[10:14] <gregtom6> cfhowlett: sounds like what?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> gregtom6, sounds like you know your choices.
[10:14] <jpavlick> cfhowlett: seems to have worked for firefox, but not for chromium
[10:15] <jpavlick> actually, no it's back in firefox
[10:15] <jpavlick> ugh
[10:15] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, recent issue?
[10:15] <jpavlick> fairly recent
[10:15] <jpavlick> within the last month or so
[10:15] <jpavlick> it has also started happening on google chrome on my android. not sure if related or not.
[10:16] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, *smack*!  DETAILS MATTER!  :)    ok, you've got some non-ubuntu stuff going oin
[10:18] <jpavlick> so this is getting me across browsers and across devices. this seems pretty deep.
[10:19] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, from various locations as well, I'd guess.
[10:19] <k1l> is this some proxy stuff? or some browser plugin stuff?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> i.e. various connection points
[10:21] <jpavlick> k1l: are you talking to me?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> k1l, suggest you paste some pics of the issue
[10:22] <k1l> yep, if its on xour mobile too then its more network site related. so like using a proxy or the router
[10:23] <jpavlick> interesting. let me see if it's wifi related.
[10:24] <cfhowlett> jpavlick, you using a proxy or vpn tool?
[10:25] <jpavlick> No.
[10:27]  * cfhowlett is ignorant but interested in jpavlick's problem and solution.
[10:27] <jpavlick> lol
[10:28] <jpavlick> I'm testing 3g on my phone to see if I get any popups
[10:40] <pombreda> somsip_: thx for your earlier answer about using dkpg --get-selections ... but what I am looking for is getting all the actual debs installed, not just the list, and something I could fetch. I think apt-zip may be it.
[10:40] <pombreda> somsip_: https://wiki.debian.org/AptZip
[10:43] <pombreda> what I am really looking for is an auditable inventory of installed packages I guess :)
[10:48] <djedje> bonjour j'ai un souci W: Erreur de GPG : http://www.bchemnet.com debian InRelease : Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu être vérifiées car la clé publique n'est pas disponible : NO_PUBKEY C95104E509BAC46D
[10:48] <k1l> !fr | djedje
[10:48] <pombreda> somsip_:  and FWIW dkpg --get-selections does not list versions whereas dkg -l does.
[10:48] <Harry> is there any site to paste images like paste.ubuntu.com for text
[10:49] <DJones> !paste | Harry (Should be a link in the bots' info),
[10:50] <antivirtel> hello all! I'm still using 12.04 on some machines.. the problem is, that I have problem with installing libreoffice: http://paste2.org/vVv1h2P0 (python-uno depends on python:any (>= 2.7.3-0ubuntu2~). - but python:  Installed: 2.7.3-0ubuntu2 )
[10:50] <antivirtel> that little "~" at the end won't cause this problem?!
[10:51] <ikonia> antivirtel: you have a PPA causing a conflict
[10:52] <antivirtel> ikonia, I've the official libreoffice PPA - but I've already tried with the official
[10:52] <antivirtel> the same
[10:52] <ikonia> you've just said the same thing
[10:52] <ikonia> you've tried with the official PPA and it's the same ?
[10:53] <ikonia> you have a PPA causing a conflict, so using a different PPA isn't the solution
[10:53] <antivirtel> ikonia, " but I've already tried with the official" - means, that I've disabled every LibreOffice PPA, and without them, it is the same
[10:53] <ikonia> disabling it doens't remove packages
[10:54] <ikonia> antivirtel: disabling PPA will still leave the packages the PPA installed on your system so the conflict will still exist
[11:03] <antivirtel> ikonia, should I use ppa-purge?
[11:03] <somenickname> which module do I have to load in order to make logiteck keyboards work after grub? I am havin an encrypted hdd
[11:06] <matty_r> How do I confirm if Bumblebee is running correctly?
[11:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:12] <Orpheon> Hello, a question about PPA. I would like to install https://launchpad.net/~sonkun/+archive/ubuntu/sfml-stable on ubuntu 14.04, but it doesn't have anything for that version. Is it "safe" to just download packages from another version and install them, or should I prefer trying to build from source?
[11:13] <k1l> Orpheon: get a PPA for trusty then
[11:14] <Orpheon> k1l, of my knowledge there is no PPA for trusty
[11:14] <Orpheon> or I don't know how to find it
[11:15] <somenickname> which module do I have to load in order to make logiteck keyboards work after grub? I am havin an encrypted hdd
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, click on the geen text, technical details
[11:17] <loudMouth> Can I get help with Terminal Emulator here?
[11:18] <Orpheon> BluesKaj, yes?
[11:18] <Orpheon> it gives me instructions on how to construct the link
[11:18] <Orpheon> apt-get update then 404s
[11:18] <BluesKaj> and sub your ubuntu version in the ppa
[11:18] <Orpheon> which is logical because there are no packets built for my version in the ppa
[11:19] <marianne> Hello guys... has anyone had experience networking a FreeBSD box to a ubuntu 14.04?
[11:21] <fl8sh123> if I open a port on my router for my server, do I need to change anything on my server other than the "listen port" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf?
[11:21] <BluesKaj> looks like an old site...I'm surprised there's nothing more current, Orpheon
[11:21] <jpavlick> maybe ufw
[11:21] <jpavlick> fl8sh123
[11:21] <Orpheon> yes, especially as the source has been updated in the last 5 days
[11:21] <Orpheon> ah well
[11:21] <Orpheon> compiling source seems to have gone flawlessly
[11:21] <Orpheon> I'll go with that
[11:22] <Orpheon> wait
[11:22] <Orpheon> error: could not create '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sfml': Permission denied
[11:22] <fl8sh123> jpavlick: What os ufw?
[11:22] <Orpheon> is there a better way to deal with this than "sudo python install.py"?
[11:22] <fl8sh123> is*
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, install python2.7
[11:24] <Orpheon> ..is it not installed by default on ubuntu?
[11:24] <Orpheon> $ python --version
[11:24] <Orpheon> Python 2.7.6
[11:25] <jpavlick> fl8sh123: What os? I'm not sure what you're asking
[11:27] <fl8sh123> jpavlick: I thought you responded to my question with "maybe ufw". I'm running Ubuntu Server
[11:27] <jpavlick> fl8sh123: right I'm saying that you might need to allow the port in ufw. I'm not sure about Ubuntu Server.
[11:28] <fl8sh123> jpavlick: k thanks.  Any idea why my apache just crashed after reloading?
[11:29] <bcvery1> ;
[11:29] <bcvery1> ;
[11:29] <jpavlick> no idea man. is there a crash dump log?
[11:31] <fl8sh123> lol no idea where the crash dump log is
[11:31] <jpavlick> did you apache reload or restart?
[11:32] <fl8sh123> restart
[11:32] <fl8sh123> then reload
[11:32] <jpavlick> try stop start?
[11:32] <zubairahmed> 2 in the chest 1 in the head
[11:33] <fl8sh123> tried
[11:33] <fl8sh123> its not letting me connect to my local
[11:34] <fl8sh123> says "Could not determind servers FQDN
[11:35] <jpavlick> shouldn't it default?
[11:35] <jpavlick> idk I've gotten that error and it still starts fine
[11:35] <jpavlick> I'm no whiz at apache
[11:35] <lyxus> Hello I am a bit confused, I am trying to disable my telnet, when I do a lsof, i can see that inetd is listening on this port (inetd   3040 root    4u  IPv4  22611      0t0  TCP *:telnet (LISTEN)); i have commented the inetd.conf but how do i restart inetd
[11:37] <zubairahmed> http://askubuntu.com/questions/256013/could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name
[11:37] <zubairahmed> fl8sh123 http://askubuntu.com/questions/256013/could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name
[11:38] <zubairahmed> lyxus /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[11:38] <fl8sh123> zubairahmed: Thanks
[11:38] <zubairahmed> lyxus http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-restart-inetd-service-daemon/
[11:39] <Guest35321> zelda
[11:39] <lyxus> i don't have a inetd in /etc/init.d
[11:39] <lyxus> zubairahmed, I did google before :)
[11:40] <zubairahmed> lyxus I see
[11:43] <ddv> lyxus: inetd -c
[11:43] <lyxus> ddv, invalid option
[11:44] <ddv> hmm
[11:55] <zagaza> hi, is there a good way to integrate a GUI for postfix mail? I don't want to check it through bash
[11:56] <zubairahmed> webmin? zagaza
[11:56] <k1l> urgs, not webmin
[11:56] <k1l> !webmin | zubairahmed zagaza
[11:56] <zagaza> thanks
[11:57] <zubairahmed> My bad
[12:03] <matty_r> I'm having dramas with Rhythmbox not getting the mp3 codecs. Any way to get around that?
[12:05] <jpds> zagaza: Roundcube.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> matty, install ubuntu-restricted-extras maybe?
[12:13] <hydrason> hi guys
[12:13] <zubairahmed> hi hydrason
[12:14] <CodeGos4> what is easiest way to run some untusted application that might do bad stuff to system? is there any easy way to run application in some kind of sandbox without using virutal machine?
[12:14] <eeee> CodeGos4: just use vbox
[12:14] <hydrason>  GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[12:14] <eeee> CodeGos4: you can take a snapshot, run it, then restore the snapshot
[12:15] <eeee> ( in vbox )
[12:16] <html> #ubuntu -offtopic
[12:16] <html> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:18] <hydrason_> when i run apt-get update i get this error
[12:19] <hydrason_> when i run apt-get update i get this error
[12:19] <k1l> hydrason_: please put the whole output into a pastebin
[12:19] <compdoc> can we know what the error is?
[12:19] <k1l> !paste | hydrason_
[12:21] <hydrason_> this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8290036/
[12:23] <k1l> do you got a proxy?
[12:23] <hydrason_> no
[12:23] <k1l> is this a free wifi?
[12:23] <hydrason_> no
[12:23] <sougata> Can you help me find the error on this squid.conf ? http://pastebin.com/AJJ6TDE6
[12:28] <hydrason_> k1l , what might be the issue?
[12:28] <levo> i have 12.04 32bit but i want to install lubuntu 14.04 64, (i need to add some of my ntfs partition to my current linux partition and then install lubuntu on it afresh.) is there any ways i can do it without using a live cd or a usb?
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> levo: you can install lubuntu from ubuntu also
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | levo
[12:30] <mjayk> tt
[12:30] <levo> lotuspsychje: it's not about a desktop environment, i want to install 14.04 64bit, instead of 12.04 32
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> levo: then i would go for fresh 14.04 64bit install
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> levo: it will run fast and clean
[12:31] <levo> lotuspsychje: and now the question is, is it possible to do it without using a usb or a live cd , (only having .iso file)
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> levo: there is a way to use grub to load iso's
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> levo: but never done it myself
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> perhaps anyone knows the trigger for grub/iso loading?
[12:32] <SchrodingersScat> also netboot into pxe
[12:32] <hydrason_> this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8290036/
[12:33] <Actionparsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> Actionparsnip: tnx
[12:33] <Actionparsnip> easier with usb, hey are super cheap and abundant too
[12:33] <Actionparsnip> 1Gb will do, cost you pennies
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> or free in cereal boxes, perfect for ubuntu :p
[12:34] <SchitZen665> How do I make it so that it does not show the IP in the USER ~SchitZen6@ip70-173-53****** when looking at my name
[12:34] <Actionparsnip> !cloak | SchitZen665
[12:34]  * Actionparsnip strokes his Ubuntu members cloak
[12:34] <frenda> Is possible Hoogle-Hangouts on desktop?
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:34] <SchitZen665> ty
[12:34] <frenda> I've installed this: https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangoutplugin/download.html
[12:35] <frenda> but I couldn't find anything related on my system?1
[12:35] <hydrason_>  GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[12:35] <hateball> frenda: It's just so you can use it in your browser
[12:35] <hateball> frenda: Short answer, no there's no desktop apps for Hangouts
[12:36] <frenda> And, is that plugin something for browser??
[12:37] <Actionparsnip> hydrason_: try:   wget https://dl.dropbox. com/u/8850924/fixpackage; cjhmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[12:37] <Actionparsnip> hydrason_: without the space in the file URL :(
[12:37] <hateball> frenda: It's so you can use webcam and microphone with hangouts
[12:37] <Actionparsnip> hydrason_: try:   wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[12:38] <geirha> potentially dangerous if wget fails
[12:38] <geirha> cd /tmp/geirha
[12:39] <geirha> err
[12:40] <Actionparsnip> geirha: why, the chmod will fail as there wil be no file to chmod, save for the execution......
[12:40] <Actionparsnip> geirha: so how is it dangerous?
[12:40] <geirha> Actionparsnip: if you get a 404 page instead for example
[12:41] <geirha> you'll have a bunch of redirections being processed as root
[12:41] <Actionparsnip> geirha: then it wont run, ive seen it 404 before, the file isnt downloaded
[12:41] <SchitZen665> Do i need to drop my second nick if i registered it?
[12:41] <SchitZen665> in order to group it
[12:43] <geirha> Actionparsnip: ok, I guess it's crazier sites like sourceforge that messes things like that up, so probably not an issue in this case.
[12:43] <foo357> Hello, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and I'm having some issues with the software GDAL and it's python bindings. I've installed the software from repository, but the python bindings seem broken.
[12:43] <hhmmm> so generally better to use && instead of ; geirha ?
[12:44] <geirha> hhmmm: yes imo
[12:44] <hhmmm> but still might not save you if you successfully retrieve the wrong page :\
[12:45] <SchitZen665> Do I have to unregister "drop" my second nick in order to group it to my first?
[12:45] <TeraJL> is there something like /etc/cron.d/.. but for the logged in user?
[12:45] <Actionparsnip> TeraJL: each user has its own crontab
[12:46] <TeraJL> but there is none like a folder?
[12:46] <hhmmm> i like crontabs and i don't understand user upstarts jobs and tasks
[12:46] <Actionparsnip> TeraJL: /var/spool/cron   I believe holds them
[12:47] <Actionparsnip> TeraJL: running:   crontab -e       will (e)dit the crontab of $USER
[12:47] <Actionparsnip> TeraJL: running:  sudo crontab -e     will edit root's cron
[12:47] <MineHarry01> with crontab -e -u USER you can edit the crontab of USER
[12:49] <Actionparsnip> crontab -l   to display the crontab of $USER
[12:49] <Actionparsnip> you can also use gnome-schedule as a GUI to cron
[12:53] <TeraJL> Actionparsnip: for example: to run a file every hour i just need to set it as +x and add "00 * * * * /home/jl/cron/wpswitch.sh" on "crontab -e"?
[12:53] <Yoth665> nm, I figured out the grouping
[12:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Anyone know a good software benchmark app for ubuntu? I want to analyze the cpu usage of the clock branch
[12:54] <geirha> TeraJL: yes
[12:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> errr; the ubuntu-clock-app
[12:54] <TeraJL> thanks guys :D
[12:57] <Actionparsnip> TeraJL: sounds fine, the file extension on your script isn't necessary :)
[12:58] <TeraJL> some people put them, others don't so i don't actually know what's the "best" way to do things :)
[13:01] <k1l> hydrason: sorry had to go afk
[13:03] <guzzi_jones> my server crashed upon upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04.  i want to restore my openldap configurations.
[13:03] <guzzi_jones> i have the physical files pulled off the machine.
[13:04] <guzzi_jones> i see some instructions to clear out /var/lib/ldap and replace with my backed up files. does anyone have further info?
[13:06] <Edmond23>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[13:07] <wrongplace> i need an app to edit video
[13:07] <wrongplace> get rid of unwanted sections
[13:07] <riccardo_> ciao
[13:08] <blackangelpr> wrongplace, openshot ?
[13:11] <songyang> HELLO
[13:11] <blackangelpr> hi
[13:11] <SchitZen665> Ty all for the cloak help
[13:11] <songyang> EVERYBODY
[13:12] <cfhowlett> songyang, no caps.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[13:12] <songyang> this is my first time use IRC
[13:13] <songyang> I have totally no idea
[13:13] <foo357> Hello, I have a computer which used to run 12.04 but is now running 14.04. I "inherited" :) it from a developer who seemed to have installed a bunch of libs in /usr/local/lib ... I can't get a hold of the guy and ask him about it. Anyway I want to get rid of the stuff in /usr/local/lib since it seem to cause trouble.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, openshot or kdenlive
[13:13] <wrongplace> cfhowlett, which one do you recommend?
[13:13] <foo357> How should I go about removing/uninstalling the stuff in /usr/local/lib?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, openshot has been more intuitive to use in my opinion, but then I'm an "average" user.  for prosumer quality work, you might be talking about cinerella or similar.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> foo357, better idea:  reinstall 14.04.1            you'll have a plain vanilla/default system
[13:18] <maurer> I'm trying to upload something to a ppa, but for some reason, the amd64 buildbot it gets sent to invokes build-arch instead of build?
[13:19] <maurer> It builds fine on the i386 buildbot it's sent to, and debuild builds it fine on my amd64 ubuntu host locally
[13:19] <maurer> Is there a way to blacklist certain buildbots for my ppa?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !cn | songyang
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !kylin | songyang
[13:20] <Blenda> hi, it's like i can't update win7 SP1 cause of Grub. I've tried  few things given on forum, but no solution. More explanations if som1 wanna help
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Blenda, grub will not prevent windows from update.  WILL NOT.
[13:22] <songyang> got it
[13:23] <Blenda> cfhowlett: can't update SP1, found out that it was a Grub maybe problem, so i disconnect the other hdd, and now i'm with a no bootmgr. In fact i wanna reinstall the WIn7 disk, but wanna be sure once i reconnect Linux Hd, it doesn't do its Grub stuff again
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Blenda, there is NOTHING in grub that will block a windows update.
[13:24] <blackangelpr> Blenda, it sound more of a error of update donwload grup its just a menue other partition for boot your os
[13:25] <Blenda> for the story, i have a hd with XP, on wich i added Ubuntu, Grub working great. After i installed an Win7 hd, and added it in SCrub via cmd line. Now when i try to launch from the win7 only, i have no more bootmngr
[13:27] <blackangelpr> Blenda, thats sound like another problem rather the first one you mention before http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[13:29] <Blenda> Grub is ok, it is the Win7 bootmanager that is off
[13:29] <Blenda> in fact i'd like to remove win7 from Grub, for my future install, or it will disappear automatically?
[13:30] <blackangelpr> Blenda, you cant have 2 boot managers in the same system if this is not then i dont understand clearly the question
[13:30] <blackangelpr> Blenda, if you try to re-install windows 7 it will not boot on grub
[13:31] <Blenda> i'd like to keep grub for my hdd 1 : XP & ubuntu, and on hdd2 Win7, not added in Grub, ill choose from bios at boot
[13:31] <blackangelpr> Blenda, if the two os are in separate hdd i was used to choose wish one i will boot from the boot option on the bios even before grub so i have no problems
[13:31] <blackangelpr> then disconnect ubuntu hdd
[13:31] <Blenda> what i do but no more win7 boot
[13:32] <blackangelpr> and fix your windows
[13:32] <Blenda> i tried all that unfortunately
[13:33] <Blenda> repair from cd, cmd lines
[13:33] <Blenda> is my previous question possible?
[13:34] <blackangelpr> Blenda, if hdd1 already have ubuntu and xp then you just need to turn off the computer disconnect and leave connected your hdd2 re-install windows 7 then plugg it back when the computer turn on choose to boot from hdd2 to get in windwos 7 or edit grub
[13:34] <blackangelpr> your ubuntu and xp should be fine
[13:35] <Blenda> okey, and grub will still have 7, or no?
[13:35] <blackangelpr> Blenda, no need to add it later
[13:35] <Blenda> should i remove it now, before reinstall?
[13:35] <bmuk> I am having trouble with my wireless card. It disconnects frequently while connected to certain networks, and it doesn't wake up after sleep, I have to manually wake it with sudo nmcli nm sleep false. Is it possible that when I installed ubuntu, the wireless driver wasn't installed correctly? Or would an update always find and fix that?
[13:35] <blackangelpr> yes remove your ubuntu hdd so you can fix your win7 one
[13:36] <Blenda> blackangelpr, i mean should i remove win7 entry in Grub now, before reinstall 7? or will it disappear by itself?
[13:36] <Rienzilla> Hi there. I am trying to let my ubuntu 14.04 act as an ldap client for authentication. However, I would like only ldap users that are member of some groupOfNames access this particular system. Is that possible? (I tried setting pam_groupdn, but it seems not to have any effect)
[13:36] <GWilder> bmuk, name of the card please
[13:37] <blackangelpr> Blenda, remove it  if not will stay there and will do nothing
[13:37] <Blenda> okey thanks a lot, will do my search to how to remove it
[13:37] <Blenda> see ya :)
[13:37] <blackangelpr> Blenda, good luck
[13:37] <Blenda> thx
[13:38] <bmuk> Gwilder: rtl 8188ce
[13:39] <GWilder> bmuk, not possible that driver wasn't correctly installed
[13:40] <GWilder> since it is Realtek card, it should work just fine with ubuntu
[13:40] <bmuk> just found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/456453/realtek-rtl8188ce-wireless-driver-unstable-in-ubuntu-14-04
[13:41] <Alanbitsch_> On Py2Exe Installer (Ubuntu) I can't see my Python 3.4.1 Installation, Why does that happens?
[13:42] <GWilder> bmuk, as you can see, his driver was for rtl8192ce, not 8188
[13:43] <fl8sh123> I am trying to position 2 images and use the <p class="pos_fixed
[13:43] <GWilder> so just try, coz i've never seen this kind of problems. Since I have rtl card type too
[13:43] <fl8sh123> How can I set the position for 2 seperate images?
[13:44] <T1960CT> Hello, I am on an Asus x551ma laptop and the touchpad is driving me crazy, it has the touch "sensor" on top of the buttons as well and it is really annoying, I found a way to change the "deadzone" of the touchpad but it is now messing with it, is there a way to completely kill any responsiveness past a certain value on the touchpad?
[13:45] <blackangelpr> T1960CT, i own and use an asus g73jh-a1 and use a usb mouse but since by default it do not turn off the mouse pad i use this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/touchpad-indicator-updated-enable-disable-touchpad-via-mouse-wheel/     works perfectly
[13:45] <T1960CT> I've edited "50-synaptics.conf" and it works but if I have my finger on that spot, which is also a button so I have to if I am to click, it stops the rest of the touchpad because you cant have your finger on 2 spots at once, it reads it like your finger is on it even thoug its in a deadzone
[13:46] <bmuk> Gwilder: this looks like it's for the ce http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219952
[13:47] <T1960CT> blackangelpr: I dont want to completely disable it though, only the section on the buttons themselves
[13:47] <blackangelpr> T1960CT,  it only disable it when you have a mouse plug in so you can do actual work or game :)
[13:47] <GWilder> bmuk, according to code you will install neccessary driver
[13:48] <T1960CT> Yes, I know but I only use the touchpad, I'm a college student so I'm often on the run with my computer and I dont want to run around with a mouse all the time
[13:49] <GWilder> quit
[13:50] <bmuk> I'm cloning the repo now
[13:54] <blackangelpr> by all time to study some android dev
[13:55] <Exclusive> I guess some of you know the answer to this, cause c++ goes right to ##overflow... so here it goes are  "for" and "while" loops considered part of the STL in c++?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Exclusive, ???   ask ##c  channel for programming support
[13:58] <Exclusive> I had some connection problems to that channel, so I figured someone here knew, but okay ;) sorry.
[14:03] <UnixBird> hi everyone
[14:11] <ramio> did some one call me ?
[14:11] <slipperypete_> ola
[14:12] <slipperypete_> stuck on creating an upstart script.. anyone able to help?
[14:13] <pbx> slipperypete_, what have you tried, and how does it fail?
[14:14] <pbx> slipperypete_, sharing pastebin links always helps too
[14:14] <slipperypete_> can't pastebin on this network unfortunately
[14:14] <slipperypete_> pbx: my script is:
[14:14] <slipperypete_> script exec su -s /bin/sh -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' asciinema -- cd /home/asciinema/asciinema.org/ && exec su -s /bin/sh -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' asciinema -- /usr/local/bin/bundle exec rails server
[14:15] <slipperypete_> end script
[14:15] <slipperypete_> thought that would su to the user asciinema and execute teh bundle script
[14:15] <slipperypete_> doesnt throw errors when i start service, but also doesnt run it
[14:16] <slipperypete_> am i way off?
[14:20] <karab44> hello
[14:20] <karab44> how to kill my desktop manager?
[14:21] <pbx> slipperypete_, since i run a pastebin i'm curious about "can't pastebin on this network". blacklist?
[14:25] <wrongplace> cfhowlett, cinerella is not in the repo
[14:25] <wrongplace> does ubuntu have an alarm clock?
[14:25] <wrongplace> beep in 5 minutes <<<
[14:25] <cfhowlett> wrongplacen, true.  you can get it from its source page
[14:26] <somsip> wrongplace: you can use at
[14:27] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, www.cinelerra.org
[14:27] <x4dr> hello :D I want to update my 12.04 to 14.04 using the update manager, and it says that it could not calculate the update (because either pre release shenanigans or unofficial software packages) and since i have nothing to do with prereleases i deleted  all PPA stuff (cinnamon, weechat and opera) from /etc/apt/sources.list.d (i made a backup)
[14:27] <x4dr> aaand its still giving me the same error
[14:27] <x4dr> i did several apt-get updates by now ^^'
[14:28] <cfhowlett> x4dr, sudo apt-get update -p
[14:29] <x4dr> cfhowlett: what does that do o0
[14:29] <slipperypete_> pbx: yea no collaborative web access
[14:30] <slipperypete_> network restrictions etc
[14:30] <cfhowlett> x4dr, err wrong command.  sudo apt do-release-upgrade -p            will get 14.04.1
[14:30] <cfhowlett> x4dr, sorry, distracted typing
[14:30] <x4dr> cfhowlett: np :D
[14:31] <pbx> slipperypete_, bummer
[14:32] <x4dr> cfhowlett: sudo do-release-upgrade -p still turns up with the same error just this time in a terminal ^^
[14:33] <cfhowlett> x4dr, paste the upgrade
[14:34] <x4dr> cfhowlett: it opens a screen how do i have it log its output?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> paste | x4dr
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !paste
[14:34] <x4dr> http://pastebin.com/RdfyD8YL
[14:36] <cfhowlett> x4dr, sorry.  chinese firewall blocks pastebin.  fpaste.org        works fine.
[14:37] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: is Precise working ok for you?
[14:37] <x4dr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8290976/
[14:37] <cfhowlett> x4dr, what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[14:37] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: yeeeah kinda, i for my laptop i cant access the brightness, which apparently is possible under 14.04
[14:38] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: did you disable all PPAs?
[14:38] <x4dr> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[14:38] <cfhowlett> x4dr, and your software sources is set for LTS upgrades only?
[14:39] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: also disable the CD as a package source
[14:39] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: i moved them from /etc/apt/sources.list.d to sources.list.d.old
[14:39] <x4dr> cfhowlett: yes
[14:39] <padhu> Hi ubuntians, anybody tried Ubuntu for android in Moto E XT1022?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !touch | padhu, "ubuntu for android" is inactive.
[14:40] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: i did
[14:40] <padhu> cfhowlett: thanks
[14:40] <cfhowlett> padhu, happy2help
[14:41] <Actionparsnip> XDS2010: if you run:  sudo apt-get update    is it smotth?
[14:41] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: did you mean me?^^
[14:41] <Actionparsnip> yes
[14:41] <The0x539> Anyone around to help me through compiling dockbarx-xfce4-plugin for my ARM system?
[14:42] <Actionparsnip> x4dr: is apt-get update    smooth?
[14:42] <SiMoNe88> hi at all
[14:42] <streulma> On Retina screen with scaled resolution I have subpixels and text is blurry. What can I do?
[14:42] <x4dr> Actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291011/ no errors
[14:43] <slipperypete_> pbx: sorted mate
[14:43] <slipperypete_> thanks
[14:43] <streulma> I want to use Ubuntu on my Mac :)
[14:44] <streulma> Install is no problem
[14:44] <streulma> but the resolution is not ok
[14:44] <ikonia> !mac | Steve
[14:44] <ikonia> oops
[14:44] <ikonia> !mac > streulma
[14:44] <streulma> ikonia I know how to install Ubuntu on a Mac, no worrys!
[14:45] <karab44> how to kill my desktop manager? I use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> karab44: killall compiz
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> oops
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> sorry
[14:45] <Actionparsnip> karab44: sudo service lightdm stop
[14:46] <karab44> ok!
[14:46] <karab44> Thank you
[14:46] <karab44> Ill try
[14:46] <philinux> karab44;~ do you want to return to login screen
[14:46] <karab44> philinux: I don't want nothing there
[14:46] <philinux> ok
[14:46] <karab44> I want to xinit 3d app in tty for performance
[14:56] <Fbigun> me &2
[14:56]  * Fbigun &2
[14:56] <mjayk>  /disconnect
[14:59] <bae> ?
[14:59] <The0x539> !
[14:59] <Actionparsnip> ~
[15:00] <ruud> hello
[15:02] <pbx> any other emacs users have a suggestion for keeping Dash from popping up when you're using the alt key?
[15:04] <intellix> trying to block a port... seems like I'm getting DOSd.. I added something like: "iptables -A INPUT -s 199.19.111.210 -j DROP" but still am seeing entries hitting my apache2 access.log... do I need to restart something to get my iptables to update?
[15:05] <Actionparsnip> pbx: use a different key to show the HUD
[15:06] <JNixx> intellix: WHat type of DOS. If they are hitting a specific file you can block access to that with .htaccess of the config.
[15:06] <intellix> it's xmlrpc.php.... wordpress vulnerability I think... the iptables thing should work though right?
[15:06] <JNixx> intellix: BLock access to the file until they stop
[15:07] <JNixx> intellix: Happened to me 2 weeks ago. I've still got the file blocked as i don't use its functionality
[15:07] <intellix> will do.... but still curious about the iptables not working
[15:07] <intellix> shouldn't that take the IP and just stop it from getting through altogether?
[15:07] <Actionparsnip> intellix: if you list iptables' rules is it present?
[15:07] <JNixx> intellix: You would have to block aces to port 80 or 443 or what ever port your apache server is listening on. If it's a dos blocking a single IP won't work
[15:08] <intellix> it looks a little different: "DROP       all  --  68.ip-192-99-246.net  anywhere"
[15:08] <intellix> well, blocking all ports for INPUT. I know it could come from multiple places but still trying to just block at least one to see what happens :P
[15:09] <intellix> ah... that one isn't in there actually
[15:10] <Actionparsnip> intellix: bingo
[15:10] <intellix> doesn't get blocked straight away, I guess it takes a few seconds to update iptables?
[15:11] <pbx> tx Actionparsnip
[15:13] <SK1N_H34D> anyone know a web service ajenti ??
[15:15] <SK1N_H34D> did you know ajenti ?
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !info ajenti
[15:16] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: looks like some phpmyadmin-like thing for people too lazy to learn how to cxonfigure applications properly using config files
[15:17] <SK1N_H34D> thx..
[15:17] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: if you use SSH and config files, your skills will be transferrable and you will actually understand your OS rather than some abstracted nonsense
[15:18] <SK1N_H34D> where i get a control panel study to installation on my server ??
[15:18] <cfhowlett> !server | SK1N_H34D,
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: http://support.ajenti.org/topic/349868-installing-on-ubuntu/
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: you wont learn anything using this thing
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: plus if it mangles your files, we wont be able to help you
[15:19] <Actionparsnip> SK1N_H34D: PS. I found that link in what...2 mins....
[15:21] <stormzen> Hi.  I had a working 12.10 installation with an encrypted partition and swap.  I upgraded to 14.1, and started seeing the message: "Error: File not found"  before booting.  I tried to solve this with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX ( I obviously wasn't thinking clearly )... this failed, naturally, because I was supposed to substitute for X, but sudo grub-update did not fail, so I rebooted, and was greeted with grub rescue> prompt.  I booted into a 12.10 CD, c
[15:21] <stormzen> reated a boot disk for 14.1 on USB, and am now trying to figure out how to get it working again.  ... Can anyone assist?
[15:22] <blaubarschbube> hi. is there a way to get wget or curl to cache authorization?
[15:22] <rberg_> "including a server specific !kernel" is this still true? I thought there wasnt a server specific kernel anymore.
[15:23] <blaubarschbube> stormzen, is setting up from the scratch an option? you can then mount your encrypted drive
[15:23] <Actionparsnip> stormzen: #ubuntu+1 for Utropic support
[15:23] <Actionparsnip> *utopic
[15:24] <stormzen> blaubarschbube, I'm unable to mount the encrypted drive from the livecd.  It won't accept the pw that worked from the boot screen.
[15:24] <stormzen> #ubuntu+1
[15:24] <stormzen> Ok, Actionparsnip, I don't know how to parse that.
[15:25] <JNixx> intellix: It should update right away. .htaccess is a much simpler method to block a file though :). Not really a job for IPTables
[15:25] <stormzen> Oh, it's another channel.  nvm.
[15:25] <TJ-> stormzen: Have you tried unlocking it using the terminal, rather than GUI, tools?
[15:25] <stormzen> TJ-, No, I haven't tried that.
[15:25] <intellix> seems to have wrked anyway :D I thought .htaccess would still require an apache process to go through.... and not really do much
[15:25] <developej> hey, i have strane problem with nrpe on ubuntu host. running scritp (check_linux_stats.pl) locally on host works, but when i run that script from monitor server i get "NRPE: Unable to read output"...running other scripts works without issues. the script has the same permissions as other scripts (755). ideas?
[15:26] <TJ-> stormzen: "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXY crypt_dev" is what you want to try
[15:26] <intellix> or are you saying the bot attacking the script probably has so many attempts, then just stops trying anyway
[15:26] <intellix> didn't want an endless amount of requests regardless :P
[15:27] <TJ-> stormzen: If that unlocks the LUKS device, you'll have a new unencrypted block device at "/dev/mapper/crpyt_dev". If it is a file-system you can then mount it somewhere
[15:28] <stormzen> TJ-, The message that I'm getting is "No key available with passphrase"
[15:29] <blaubarschbube> stormzen, I dont really remeber anymore, but maybe that helps somehow http://pastebin.com/mei7NNB0
[15:29] <stormzen> ( That was also the message that I got from the GUI. )
[15:29] <musca> blaubarschbube: wget with authorization: use two commands, first one for the login with --save-cookies, then a second for the download with --load-cookies
[15:29] <TJ-> stormzen: You're either using the wrong pass-phrase *or* there are 'international' characters in it, and the current keyboard translation isn't producing the same codes
[15:31] <TJ-> stormzen: I always add a binary key-file to LUKS just in case, to avoid this kind of issue.
[15:31] <stormzen> TJ- I think I had one of those.  Would it be stored under /etc ?
[15:33] <TJ-> stormzen: I hope not! Key-files should be on external or separately encrypted media
[15:34] <mjayk> Can I manually control when my laptop uses its nvidia card as oppose to its intel card ?
[15:34] <mjayk> u14.04 64b
[15:35] <TJ-> stormzen: If you think the issue is keyboard translation, reconfigure consolekit to use the same encoding as was used previously
[15:36] <stormzen> TJ-, I was using a standard install for 12.10.  Would the liveCD for 14.1 be different?
[15:36] <stormzen> I don't think I used any special characters, though.
[15:36] <ubuntu-master> hi, i have a problem wit ubunto
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> i cant install itunes
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> ineed it because i have an iphone
[15:37] <TJ-> stormzen: Things like a US vs UK keyboard layout can cause issues even
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> what can i do
[15:37] <ubuntu-master> im so desperated
[15:37] <Langlee> Use wine
[15:37] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-master, you are not making sense.
[15:38] <TJ-> stormzen: I've seen a laptop's Num Lock cause issues too, although that is mostly at boot-time when GRUB's /boot/ is encrypted and the BIOS enables Num Lock by default
[15:38] <cfhowlett> !itunes | ubuntu-master, itunes does not run on ubuntu.  complain to apple or use an alternative
[15:38] <ubuntu-master> thats so sad
[15:38] <ubuntu-master> i hate apol
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> if u want hav ituns
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> u ned to restart ur computer
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> https://apple.com/itunes
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> heres the linck
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> just clik dounload and thats all
[15:39] <stormzen> TJ-, Is there a way to unlock it if I don't know the password?  I've got all the time in the world, as opposed to losing everything stored in that partition...
[15:39] <ubuntu-master> i asked a serious question
[15:39] <InformaticPLS> ya ik
[15:40] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | InformaticPLS,
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> i just anwer u
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> im helpful u fker
[15:40] <TJ-> stormzen: That would defeat the entire point of encryption, wouldn't it?
[15:40] <ubuntu-master> no u are not
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> more helful than u
[15:40] <cfhowlett> !wine | ubuntu-master, itunes MIGHT run on wine to some degree but not enough to be very useful.
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> asking shit man
[15:40] <stormzen> TJ-, Ultimately, yes, I suppose it would.
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> whatever u want
[15:40] <cfhowlett> InformaticPLS, no profanity.  stop now.
[15:40] <Beldar> ubuntu-master  InformaticPLS same IP
[15:40] <InformaticPLS> just install wine
[15:41] <TJ-> ubuntu-master: InformaticPLS Please behave, you're abusing the channel and spamming
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> everything its solved now
[15:41] <ubuntu-master> !shutup | InformaticPLS
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> youre welcome
[15:41] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-master, no need for that.  let's move on.
[15:41] <SuperLag> When I scroll up/down in Chrome, it's not smooth. I'm not sure what word to use, that best describes it. It's like it flickers, and jumps up and down as it moves either direction. Is this a Chrome issue, or an X issue?
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> profenity my balls
[15:41] <cfhowlett> !ops | InformaticPLS, language
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> seriously
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> instal wine dude
[15:41] <TJ-> !ops | InformaticPLS ubuntu-master same client spamming, abuse, language
[15:41] <InformaticPLS> its the future
[15:42] <InformaticPLS> omg u r so hacker
[15:42] <InformaticPLS> how can u know my ip ?
[15:42] <ubuntu-master> I think i will install wine
[15:42] <ubuntu-master> but i dont like the idea
[15:42] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-master, read the wine db for itunes support before you do all that
[15:43] <SuperLag> Yes. what cfhowlett said.
[15:43] <SuperLag> Wine? UGH.
[15:43] <lewk> is it more secure to ssh into irssi or no
[15:43] <ubuntu-master> cfhowlett thank you very much
[15:43] <stormzen> TJ-, I run a 64 bit os.  grub-update appears to have installed a directory i386-pc.  Is that a sign that something else may have wiped out the ability to access the root partition from boot?  It was working fine before running grub-setup.
[15:43] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-master, happy2help
[15:43] <SuperLag> lewk: more secure?
[15:43] <blaubarschbube> musca, good hint. but I have just one single wget call. and I want caching such that wget doesnt authentificate for each picture on that page
[15:43] <ubuntu-master> :)
[15:43] <stormzen> TJ-, sorry, running grub-update, rather.
[15:43] <lewk> secure as in im not remote but a local user
[15:43] <TJ-> stormzen: That is fine, at boot time the CPU is not in protected / long mode
[15:44] <The> YO NIGGA SUP
[15:44] <The> windows is too much mainstream
[15:44] <blaubarschbube> musca, aahh, just read that I indeed only need one call. gonna try..
[15:44] <cfhowlett> the  wrong channel for that.
[15:44] <The> anyone for sexcam ?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> the go away.  wrong channel.
[15:44] <TJ-> stormzen: I'm wondering if you did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1" and wrote the boot sector over the LUKS header of the encrypted partition
[15:44] <stormzen> TJ-, But is there any chance that there was a keyfile, of some sort, on the boot partition that is needed in combination with the password I was using to unlock all the partitions?
[15:45] <The> TJ sounds so nigger
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !ops | The "sexcam" request
[15:45] <blaubarschbube> The, depends..
[15:45] <stormzen> TJ-, No, it was sudo grub-install /dev/sdX, and it failed.
[15:45] <The> about what ?
[15:45] <stormzen> TJ-, That sounds very, very bad, though.
[15:45] <cfhowlett> blaubarschbube, golden rule " do not feed trolls"
[15:45] <The> TJ are u going to KF today ?
[15:45] <The> KFC
[15:45] <blaubarschbube> cfhowlett, I forgott
[15:46] <LoRez> The: That's quite enough.
[15:46] <TJ-> stormzen: Key-files are separate from pass phrases, but in the end they act as keys into 1 of the 7 LUKS slots of a dm_crypt volume
[15:46] <The> How many inches TJ ?
[15:46] <The> Talk me dirty to me
[15:46] <The> PLS
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !ops | The racism sexism etc
[15:46] <Actionparsnip> Thanks
[15:47] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: I thought the golden IRC rule was to SLAY all the trolls? :)
[15:47] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[15:47] <Actionparsnip> SuperLag: or feed them til they pop
[15:47] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, trolls thrive on attention.
[15:47] <SuperLag> <whistling innocently>
[15:47] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: dead trolls don't thrive ;)
[15:47] <stormzen> TJ-, Is there a way to tell if I wrote the boot sector over the LUKS header of the encrypted partition?  The encrypted partition, by the way is /dev/sda8 .
[15:48] <TJ-> stormzen: Check the headers of the encrpyted volume: "sudo cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sdXY"
[15:48] <SchitZen665> Trolls, they're whats for dinner
[15:49] <TJ-> stormzen: You'd expect to see something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291456/
[15:49] <stormzen> TJ-, I do see something like that.  Should I pastebin what I see?
[15:49] <TJ-> stormzen: How many slots are used?
[15:50] <stormzen> Same as yours, I have a 0 and a 1.
[15:50] <DolphinDream> howdy bunterz
[15:51] <DolphinDream> does anyone know how to change the dock (launcher) icons ?
[15:51] <TJ-> stormzen: 1. are you sure you're remembering the pass phrase correctly? 2. Is Caps Lock involved? 3. Try typing the pass-phrase to the shell prompt just to ensure that the characters you think you are typing are the ones being sent
[15:52] <stormzen> TJ-, In case it's helpful:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291499/
[15:52] <TJ-> stormzen: So you have 2 keys set, one will be the pass-phrase for sure, the other could be another pass-phrase or a key-file
[15:52] <geudrik> kernel 3.17-rc4 builds appear to break default openssh-server config (permanently get connection refused)
[15:52] <stormzen> TJ-, Yes, I added a second pass phrase at some point.  I recall that much.
[15:52] <stormzen> TJ-, Also, it's the second pass phrase I'm trying to use.
[15:53] <TJ-> stormzen: OK, so ensure when typing the pass-phrase it is appearing as you expect at the terminal. If so, you can discount Num-Lock/Caps-Lock/keyboard translation issues and focus on remembering the correct pass phrase :)
[15:53] <geudrik> kernel 3.17-rc4 addresses ethernet adapters differently than 3.13.0-35
[15:54] <TJ-> stormzen: The way LUKS works, the passphrase you give it is tested against each slot in turn until either one matches, or the last slot has been tried
[15:54] <stormzen> TJ-, So, the dump shows that I didn't overwrite the partition?
[15:54] <DolphinDream> where are the launcher items stored ? (e.g. the dock launching icons/shortcuts on the dock)
[15:55] <TJ-> stormzen: The dump wouldn't be valid if you had over-written it
[15:55] <stormzen> TJ-, * I meant the LUKS header ... ok, thanks.
[15:56] <raymond85> good day
[15:59] <ArgentoPelotudo> hola soy un argento
[15:59] <ArgentoPelotudo> que contaas
[15:59] <ArgentoPelotudo> algun dolobu para boludear?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> !es | ArgentoPelotudo,
[16:00] <Actionparsnip> geudrik: 3.17 isnt the official kernel of Trusty
[16:00] <ArgentoPelotudo> pero sho ablo españiol bolu
[16:00] <Actionparsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[16:01] <raymond85> exit
[16:01] <stormzen> TJ-, I made sure that numlock wasn't set, and capslock has an LED for when it is set.  The passphrase didn't work.  I then set the numlock, and tried again, in case it was working in reverse.  That didn't work.  I then added in the capslock key, which also didn't work.  I'm 99% sure I have the right passphrase...
[16:02] <geudrik> ArgentoPelotudo: I'm aware (the -rc gives that away if nothing else), however it should be noted that there are issues. Using latest kernel when you're after features in it is important. On that token, perhaps you can tell me why 3.13.0 uses bios names for ethernet instead of ethX (eg: why did this change in 14.04)
[16:02] <TJ-> stormzen: LUKS disagrees with you :)
[16:03] <geudrik> s/14.04/3.13.0
[16:03] <TJ-> stormzen: Have you typed the pass-phrase in clear text to be sure what you think you're typing is what you expect?
[16:03] <stormzen> TJ-, Yes.
[16:04] <stormzen> TJ-, Ah, I think I see the error of my ways.
[16:06] <stormzen> TJ-, The root was a different partition.  Inside the root is an /etc/crypttab_keyfile which is used to unlock the /home and /swap partitions.  I've been trying to unlock the /home parition.
[16:06] <stormzen> TJ-, I'm able to mount the / using my key phrase.  Can you help me fix grub2?
[16:08] <TJ-> stormzen: Aha!   Depends on what you've done to it :)
[16:08] <stormzen> TJ-, Essentially, I did grub-install /dev/sdX , and when that failed, grub-setup.  Since that command didn't fail, I rebooted.
[16:09] <TJ-> stormzen: If the root file-system is also encrypted, then there needs to be an entry for it in "/etc/crypttab", and the initrd.img hooks will need to install cryptsetup and the cryyptab entry into the initrd.img
[16:10] <stormzen> TJ-, I'm not sure that makes sense.  The root file system is inaccessible before it's unlocked.
[16:10] <stormzen> TJ-, The keys for /home and /swap do not match /.
[16:10] <TJ-> stormzen: That fact you reported being at the "grub rescue>" prompt suggests that "/boot/" is also encrypted and GRUB can't access it
[16:10] <stormzen> TJ-, No, /boot is not encrypted.
[16:12] <TJ-> stormzen: It may (have) been damaged; do an fsck on its file-system to be sure. If that is OK, then re-install grub ("grub-install /dev/sdX") from *within* a correctly mounted chroot of the broken system
[16:12] <stormzen> TJ-, This was the gem that helped me understand what my setup was:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291637/  ... I had the encryption setup when I purchased the laptop through los alamos computers.
[16:13] <stormzen> TJ-, Ugh.  I have to do a chroot... ok... I've done that before...
[16:14] <TJ-> stormzen: I have a script that automates it, if that helps? https://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash
[16:14] <wrongplace> with what do I add a .srt file to a .mkv or -mp4 file?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, what kind of file is .srt
[16:15] <wrongplace> subtitles
[16:15] <stormzen> TJ-, That's a killer URL you got there.  :)
[16:15] <stormzen> TJ-, I think it even beats "John.com" .
[16:18] <stormzen> TJ-, Does the root need to be unmounted, or mounted?
[16:19] <TJ-> stormzen: For the script? not mounted. type the script name to get the usage info
[16:19] <qazqaz> Hi guys, I've got a problem here. Running 14.04 left bar dash isn't showing after logging. What to do?
[16:19] <stormzen> TJ-, Even though it's encrypted?
[16:19] <TJ-> stormzen: Decryption is separate to mounting
[16:19] <stormzen> TJ-, I'm trying to get to it.  Oh, I think the GUI does both at the same time.
[16:20] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, as I thought; ffmpeg/avconv      http://linuxg.net/how-to-embed-subtitles-to-movies-with-mencoder-and-ffmpeg/
[16:20] <TJ-> stormzen: An unencrpyted block device has a device-mapper node (under /dev/mapper/), which can then be mounted someplace to access its file-system
[16:20] <TJ-> stormzen: Yes, probably it does.
[16:20] <jr_> How can I calculate the number of platters I have on my hard disk?
[16:20] <k1l> jr_: see the hardware description form manufacturer
[16:20] <TJ-> jr_: You can't; look up the device specifications based on the model number
[16:21] <dav1dp0101> I'm using rsync to backup my root directory, but my backup folder is filled to capacity because the /proc folder took all free space, even though the original is not that big. Does anyone know why this would be?
[16:22] <rww> dav1dp0101: don't backup /proc. It's a virtual filesystem that interfaces with the kernel, not actual physical files you need to backup.
[16:22] <rww> dav1dp0101: Depending on your kernel configuration, it might contain stuff like the entire contents of system memory, which is... not small.
[16:22] <dav1dp0101> rww: really? Ok, thanks. that should probably fix the problem.
[16:23] <rww> same goes for /sys, by the way (though I think that is small)
[16:24] <jr_> Even if I know the number of cylinders I have? I still can't find the number of platters?
[16:25] <TJ-> jr_: the numbers you see are not real - unless you're using an old MFM or RLL drive
[16:25] <jr_> TJ-: Let's assume they are. Can I do it?
[16:25] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: You probably need to use rsync's "--one-file-system" option when backing up the root file-system
[16:26] <TJ-> jr_: I never assume - I work from evidence :)
[16:26] <jr_> TJ-: My evidence is given to me as fact for a stated problem.
[16:27] <dav1dp0101> TJ- In the rsync man page it just says "--one-file-system    don't cross filesystem boundaries"  What does that even mean?
[16:27] <eeee> dav1dp0101: maybe if there's a symlink or something it doesn't follow to other file systems?
[16:28] <eeee> or if a filesystem is mounted under a dir it wont follow it?
[16:28] <yoeria_> #buildroot
[16:29] <dav1dp0101> eeee: I have no idea.
[16:29] <stormzen> TJ-, path/to/mountpoint, is that where I will mount the chroot?
[16:31] <TJ-> stormzen: Yes; I usually "mkdir /target" and use it as the mountpoint - that's the convention the Debian/Ubuntu installer uses
[16:32] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, thanks.
[16:32] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: What eeee said. You've got a proc file-system mounted at /proc/ - and various others like /dev/ and /sys/.  You don't want rsync trying to traverse those
[16:33] <TimeVirus> yo
[16:34] <stormzen> TJ-, And /dev/path/to/root-files is /dev/mapper/crypt_dev ?
[16:34] <TJ-> stormzen: Correct :)
[16:35] <designbybeck> I get a SEGFault evertime I try to open my Docuements folder. I've checked in the terminal and I can't see any odd file or folder in there. I tried reinstalling Nautilus  and clearing the .config files for it, but nothing has seemed to work
[16:35] <TJ-> stormzen: If the /home/ is encrypted ensure that is LuksOpen too so that when the script reads the "/etc/fstab" in the root file-system, it can mount it from the *correct* device-mapper node name
[16:35] <designbybeck> Any suggestions
[16:35] <designbybeck> Ubuntu 14.04 64bit
[16:36] <dav1dp0101> TJ- thanks. I've included /proc/*** and /sys/*** in my excludes file.
[16:36] <TJ-> stormzen: E.g., if in the root file-system's "/etc/fstab" it has "/dev/mapper/home" ensure you've done "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda8 home" and have a "/dev/mapper/home"
[16:36] <techroot> Buenas.
[16:37] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: You might want to do that for /dev/ and for /var/run and /run/ and /tmp/ and some directories under /var/cache/ too
[16:37] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: tried a different file manager?
[16:37] <stormzen> TJ-, /etc/fstab doesn't look like the right fstab file.  ( It doesn't contain the references to the /etc/crypt file )
[16:37] <techroot> Someone knows a way to use Telepathy KDE with Facebook Chat?
[16:38] <TJ-> stormzen: No, you need the one inside the root file-system. But you pastebin tells you the correct device-mapper names doesn't it? (/dev/mapper/root and /dev/mapper/home)
[16:38] <TJ-> stormzen: So it comes down to ensuring the 'home' is called /dev/mapper/home
[16:40] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: tried a reboot?
[16:40] <designbybeck> yes Actionparsnip this has gone on for a very long time
[16:40] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: ok, have you tried a different file manager?
[16:40] <designbybeck> I normally just save to a differnet folder. I can browse for files in other programs to open documents from withing the DOcuments folder Actionparsnip but not from nautilus itself
[16:40] <designbybeck> not yet
[16:41] <geudrik> designbybeck: have you done an $ ls -lah in ~/ to check for funky filenames? Also, are your permissions on your home folder correct?
[16:42] <designbybeck> geudrik, just tried that, what am I looking for
[16:42] <geudrik> designbybeck: filenames with weird characters
[16:42] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: might be worth running an fsck from liveCD overnight
[16:43] <TJ-> designbybeck: I'd bet you've got corrupted images that the thumbnailer is trying to parse. Try disabling thumbnails
[16:43] <eeee> designbybeck: ls -al ~/Documents | pastebinit
[16:43] <eeee> yeah a zero length .flv .mp3 .avi .. etc. file
[16:43] <designbybeck> TJ-,  I did try that already didn't seem to fix it
[16:43] <geudrik> designbybeck: your home folder should have permissions of 755 (default)
[16:44] <designbybeck> eeee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8291840/
[16:45] <designbybeck> geudrik,  that looks to be the case
[16:45] <indn1234> Hey, I need to install Win8 dual boot on my Ubuntu machine (single partition on 500GB HDD), without touching the Ubuntu installation. How do I go about it?
[16:45] <jhutchins> indn1234: Get a new disk?
[16:45] <TJ-> designbybeck: The way I've quickly fixed that in the past is to create a new user account, log in as it, run the File Manager and check it doesn't fail on the (empty) Documents directory, then copy batches of files into it from the problem user account's Documents directory, and retry the File Manager each time. At some point, if the cause is a corrupted file, you'll hit the same failure, and then you'll know which batch of files contains the problem. You can then
[16:45] <TJ->  delete them one by one and re-try until the failure no longer happens. Then you know the file causing it, and can delete it from the real user account
[16:46] <TimeVirus> vbox
[16:46] <jhutchins> indn1234: If it's a single partition taking the whole disk you can't install to that disk without touching it.
[16:46] <designbybeck> guess that is my last resort TJ- ...which I might be at that! Thanks
[16:47] <jhutchins> TJ-: Why not just run fsck?
[16:47] <designbybeck> and Actionparsnip Which other File Manager do you suggest for the time being to give it a test
[16:47] <indn1234> jhutchins: can't I shrink the partiiton in a live session and use the freed space to create a new primary partition to put Win8 in it?
[16:47] <TJ-> designbybeck: The other way is to start the File Manager (Nautilus I assume) from the terminal, using strace, and wait for it to SEFFAULT and look at the last file it was trying to process. e.g. "strace -fe trace=file nautilus"
[16:47] <k1l> indn1234: yes. but as always: if you touch partitions, better have a backup.
[16:47] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, So I have these entries under /dev/mapper:  control  crypt_dev  home  swap ... root is crypt_dev, because that's the name I gave it through luksOpen, but I'm already chrooted in there, so I should be set to enter the commands now, right?
[16:47] <TJ-> jhutchins: fsck won't detect a corrupted file, only corruption in the meta-data of a file-system
[16:47] <jhutchins> indn1234: I would consider that "touching", but yes, you can do that.
[16:48] <k1l> indn1234: because murphys law
[16:48] <jhutchins> indn1234: As with any time you're messing with a live partition table, you should back up anything important to you.
[16:48] <jhutchins> indn1234: You might want to add a swap partition while you're at it.
[16:48] <TJ-> stormzen: If you're using the script, then it'll have dropped you to a shell in the chroot with all the /proc /sys /dev /dev/pts configured correctly, and /boot mounted too
[16:49] <indn1234> jhutchins: any way I can back up my programs and stuff, so that I may restore the UBuntu as it is, in case I fuck things up.
[16:49] <jhutchins> !backup
[16:49] <stormzen> TJ-, There is no /boot.
[16:49] <stormzen> TJ-, I am using the script, though.
[16:49] <designbybeck> TJ-, when I ran strace nautilus it opened but went back to the command promte
[16:50] <TJ-> stormzen: There must be! You said that /boot/ was outside of the  encrypted root file-system
[16:50] <stormzen> TJ-, Well, there is a boot directory, but it's not mounted.
[16:50] <stormzen> TJ-, I can probably manually mount it to the correct partition.  It is outside of the encrypted file system.
[16:50] <TJ-> stormzen: Isn't there an entry in the chroot's /etc/fstab for the /boot mount? If there is, the script would mount - it is essential else grub won't be able to (re)install correctly
[16:51] <TJ-> stormzen: If there isn't an entry, that would explain why the system failed to boot
[16:51] <stormzen> TJ-, There is an entry ... but #ls /boot is empty.
[16:52] <TJ-> stormzen: OK, do "mount -a" and it should get mounted. Check the contents of /boot/ after doing that, to be sure
[16:52] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, yeah, that looks right.
[16:52] <cas_> Hi, I got a problem with lightdm login. Whenever I login, I automaticly redirected to the lightdm login screen directly. I got no "password wrong" notify just a flash in my screen.
[16:53] <Benemy> Hello all. Im trying to get help choosing the right driver under additional drivers. I have  NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] (rev a1) and wanna make sure i dont do anything to mess up.
[16:53] <cas_> I can login on a other TTY and it I got the problem also with other window managers (such as Gnome)
[16:53] <TJ-> stormzen: OK, now do "update-initramfs -uv" then "grub-install /dev/sda" then "update-grub"
[16:53] <k1l> cas_: look at the users home folder and see (with "ls -al") if all stuff belongs to your user:user
[16:54] <TJ-> cas_: check ownership of "/home/$USER/.Xauthority" file ... probably needs deleting
[16:54] <stormzen> TJ-, grub-install /dev/sda will overwrite the LUKS header, won't it?
[16:54] <k1l> cas_: especially the .XAuthority files
[16:54] <TJ-> stormzen: No, there is no LUKS header on the whole disk, the LUKS headers are in the partitions (6,7,8)
[16:55] <cas_> k1l: Thanks a million, that was it. .Xauthority was owned by root
[16:55] <TJ-> stormzen: "grub-install" is (re)writing the Master Boot Sector (or for EFI, the /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi)
[16:55] <stormzen> TJ-, Ok, what does update-initramfs do?
[16:55] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: pcmanfm2
[16:55] <eeee> maybe that was caused by using sudo instead of gksu
[16:55] <designbybeck> k thanks
[16:56] <eeee> ( @ cas_ )
[16:56] <TJ-> stormzen: updates the initrd.img ... you'll probably need to give it the "-k " option to tell it the exact kernel version to update since you're not running the live system
[16:56] <Benemy> Looking to get help selectings and updating my drivers
[16:57] <TJ-> stormzen: Look in "/boot/" and check what the most recent (latest) kernel version is ("ls /boot/vmlinuz*") There'll be a matching "initrd.img-$VERSION"
[16:57] <TJ-> stormzen: So you'd need "update-initramfs -uv -k $VERSION"
[16:58] <stormzen> TJ-, It looks like:  /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-68-generic , so update-initramfs -uv -k /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-68-generic ?
[16:59] <TJ-> stormzen: "update-initramfs -uv -k 3.2.0-68-generic"
[16:59] <designbybeck> well gee Actionparsnip pcmanfm failed too
[16:59] <designbybeck> SIGSEGV
[16:59] <Actionparsnip> designbybeck: I'd run a file system check in live cd, make sure all is well
[17:00] <TJ-> Actionparsnip: designbybeck No need to do it from a Live CD; just add "--force-fsck" to the kernel command-line, and 'mountall' will force t
[17:00] <TJ-> s/t/it/
[17:01] <TJ-> Actionparsnip: designbybeck Additionally, if you wish to force a fix, use "--fsck-fix"
[17:01] <designbybeck> TJ-,  what exactly would the command be.
[17:02] <stormzen> TJ-, I see:  Installing for i386-pc platform ... I thought I  was running 64 bits, isn't that amd-64 ?
[17:03] <TJ-> designbybeck: Reboot. Hold down Shift key. At GRUB boot menu, highlight the boot entry, press 'e' to edit it. Navigate to the line "linux ...". Navigate to the end of the line, and append the text "--force-fsck". Press Ctrl+X to boot with that modified command list
[17:03] <niargh> Using 14.04 desktop. Somehow lost the application that installs software (ubuntu software center?) and also the default app to open .deb files. How can I fix?
[17:03] <TJ-> stormzen: i386-pc is the GRUB architecture for x86 PCs, whether 32 or 64 bit capable
[17:04] <stormzen> TJ-, Did it used to only be amd-64 ?  I don't know where I pulled that from.  I've updated grub.  I guess I'm ready to pull the trigger.
[17:05] <eeee> niargh: sudo apt-get install software-center
[17:05] <Benemy> Looking to get help selectings and updating my drivers
[17:05] <eeee> niargh: or, sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center
[17:05] <squinty_> niargh,  and   gdebi   for deb packages
[17:05] <stormzen> TJ-, But before I do... Is there a way to unchroot and copy some files from the luksOpened root directory?
[17:05] <TJ-> stormzen: No, it's always been i386. That's the mode the CPU is in after BIOS hands over to GRUB
[17:06] <TJ-> stormzen: You could open another terminal shell and use that whilst the current one has the chroot open, then return to the chroot and type "exit" when you're done
[17:07] <pippus> ale
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> stormzen  or ctrl-shift t for a new tab
[17:07] <pippus> ci sono ragazze?
[17:07] <Actionparsnip> TJ-: i prefer to do it manually, but I guess that way works too
[17:07] <eeee> !it | pippus
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> pippus  alt-f4
[17:13] <niargh> Thanks eeee, that did it!
[17:14] <eeee> no problem
[17:15] <stormzen> ok.  Here goes.  brb.
[17:18] <c107> How do I access PEAP networks using Ubuntu?
[17:22] <stormzen> TJ-, It worked!  Thank you *so* much!  Do you have an amazon wish-list for people to exhibit gratitude?
[17:22] <stormzen> Is there a way to get the log for the last 2 hours for this channel?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> !logs | stormzen
[17:24] <TJ-> stormzen: I don't; I prefer people to join the community and help others in the same way I do, as a way of showing their appreciation
[17:24] <TJ-> stormzen: Do you want a transcript of our conversation?
[17:24] <rsaffi> TJ-: I do!
[17:25] <rsaffi> Just joined, and it seems to be a good talk
[17:25] <TJ-> stormzen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8292119/
[17:25] <stormzen> TJ-, Yes.  Thanks!
[17:25] <rsaffi> many thanks! :)
[17:26] <stormzen> TJ-, That's perfect, thanks.
[17:26] <TJ-> stormzen: You'll need to update to the Trusty kernel versions now; I recall you said the most recent was 3.2.x, and Trusty has 3.13.x
[17:27] <cameron__> hello can anyone help me?
[17:27] <stormzen> TJ-, I may have given bad info;  This is what I have:  Linux ThinkPad-T520 3.13.0-35-generic #62
[17:28] <TJ-> stormzen: Ahhh OK ... so we updated an initrd that didn't need it :D
[17:29] <stormzen> TJ-, err... ... maybe?
[17:30] <stormzen> TJ-, Yeah, I did say 3.2 ... I thought that was the latest that was listed.
[17:34] <thc> I got question the ubuntu desktop 14.01 lts installation failed on DVD same with USB
[17:35]  * pbx just sent a cranky note to gotomeeting urging linux support
[17:35] <stormzen> pbx, I think I sent one of those a few months ago.
[17:38] <pbx> stormzen, i'm sure they'll be getting back to us soon
[17:40] <thc> I'm stuck on NetBoot on install the base system
[17:43] <thc> Error reads base system installation error The debootstrap program exited with error (return value 1) . Check /var/logs/syslog or see virtual console 4 for details.
[17:43] <thc> Anyone know a way around it
[18:05] <waykool99> i've tried the BT icon in the taskbar, BT Manager in Settings Manager, randomly (hit and miss) checked/unchecked several boxes. how does BT talk to my LG earbuds, iHome speakers etc etc?
[18:07] <daz_fr> hi
[18:07] <TJ-> waykool99: Bluetooth daemon will pair with the BT devices, and optionally enable an audio connection. From there, you'll need to use the Audio hardware configuration to have audio directed to the appropriate device
[18:08] <waykool99> ahhh. thank you for responding.
[18:10] <kjm> hi all
[18:11] <waykool99> i noticed the 2 checkboxes with red "Experimental!" and "Very Experimental". to Pair iHome speakers, would checking either of those boxes help?
[18:16] <thc> Problem comes up "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[18:17] <mvensky> does anyone know how to have an account autologin or just bypass login altogether for a host?
[18:17] <thc> Is there workaround or way to fix it
[18:17] <k1l> mvensky: there is a autologin setting for lightdm
[18:18] <mvensky> k1l: cool let me check into it
[18:19] <k1l> mvensky: system settings: users
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> mvensky  system settings > users accounts
[18:24] <mvensky> MonkeyDust: found the setting you referred to, I still get a password prompt
[18:24] <k1l> mvensky: what ubuntu is it?
[18:26] <mvensky> 14.04
[18:26] <k1l> with unity?
[18:27] <Guest71647> Having issue with ltsp build image for Raspberry Pi  Keep geeting FBIOBLANK error think it has something to do with X11 Session manager not loading correclty?
[18:28] <thc> Yeah
[18:29] <thc> Ubuntu desktop 14.04 lts having problems with "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[18:35] <thc> anyone?
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[18:36] <Mip> Hi - getting super slow “reading package list” speeds after upgrading from 12.04.5 (3.2 kernel) to 14.04.1. I get this during apt-get update and while trying to build new thin client. System has 2 quadcore processors, 24 gigs of memory, using software raid 1 on 2 disks (/ and /home on separate partitions). I had a similar issue when I was running the 3.5 kernel, but the issue went away when I went back to the 3.2 kernel. Thoughts? Results of iostat here:
[18:36] <Mip> http://pastebin.com/v1vCsf6r
[18:37] <ViCe95> ViBot1:
[18:37] <rww> ViCe95: No unauthorized bots in #ubuntu, please.
[18:37] <qjqqyy> !part
[18:38] <ViCe95> ok,sorry.
[18:38] <rodd> are the commands of an active session stored in .bash_history real time?
[18:39] <thc> I have the following error "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[18:45] <jazzed> Noob here to advanced operating systems. Does anyone have an informed opinion about using systemd on ubuntu 14.04 for a production product? Avoid it now? :)
[18:45] <rww> jazzed: There is no supported non-testing systemd implementation for 14.04.
[18:46] <rww> so no, you should not use it in production on 14.04
[18:46] <Doomray2000> should i just keep those logs for this account, please check your email
[18:47] <bazhang> !1984 | Doomray2000
[18:47] <Doomray2000> bazhang
[18:47] <bazhang> Doomray2000, disable that script
[18:53] <Guest51484> !exit
[18:53] <Guest51484> !quit
[18:53] <Guest51484> exit
[18:53] <Guest51484> quit
[18:53] <Guest51484> bye
[18:54] <Neozonz|Disc> lol
[18:54] <Neozonz|Disc> guess he got it right that time
[18:54] <daftykins> nope, just closed the page
[18:54] <daftykins> ;)
[18:54] <Neozonz|Disc> Anyone know any good web dashboards to manage ldap?
[19:00] <jost> Hi... when uploading data, my internet connection is maxed out. That's fine in principle, but DNS requests don't get send out, so I can't really do anything while the upload is running. It seems like a priority in the networking settings that is wrong - how would I fix that?
[19:01] <jost> If the DNS result has been cached, everything works fine (a bit slower of course, but it works)
[19:01] <daftykins> jost: you'd ask again in ##networking
[19:02] <mvensky> k1l: thanks the LightDM hint turned the trick
[19:04] <Lord-Harlot> Hey, I've just installed ubuntu 10.04 on a fairly old laptop and the login screen has the wrong resolution, 1920x1080 but the laptops resolution is 1024x768. When I've logged in to the desktop the resolution gets set as 1024x768
[19:04] <Doomray2000> logged into my steam account yesterday
[19:04] <Lord-Harlot> but it's a bit annoying as the login box is pretty much off the screen
[19:05] <|Lord_Zoo|> quit
[19:05] <dididodo> hi... what tool can you recommend for converting a .swf video file to  .mp4 or .avi?
[19:05] <Doomray2000> blend file
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> Lord-Harlot  I had that too, move the mouse to the "off screen", click and drazg to your screen
[19:06] <Shoozza> hey where can i find a list of all tools installed on a fresh ubuntu 14.04 desktop install. I'm looking for the default screen record tool which records to webm i think it was called eidete but i cannot find it anywhere
[19:06] <Lord-Harlot> Is there anyway to set it so it starts up as the correct resolution?
[19:06] <Doomray2000> screwing up please check your email address look correct?
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> Lord-Harlot  I didnt find a resolution, it forced me back to 12.04
[19:07] <Lord-Harlot> hmm
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> dididodo  try winff
[19:08] <Doomray2000> i try and install linux
[19:08] <Lord-Harlot> Nothing in the login screen settings :(
[19:09] <naturally> what do i do if my network driver keeps turning on and off in 14.04?
[19:09] <dididodo> MonkeyDust ... ok, thanks ... i already tried ffmpeg and avconv ... you think winff will  make a difference?
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> dididodo  winff is a gui for ffmpeg/avconv
[19:10] <cynicallemon> winff is basically a frontend to ffmpeg
[19:10] <Doomray2000> just move on their way for us to take effect?
[19:10] <dididodo> MonkeyDust ... i see
[19:10] <Doomray2000> we see your input into this channel are you in turkish
[19:11] <dididodo> MonkeyDust ... ffmpeg didnt work .. at least with the settings i used
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> !who | Doomray2000
[19:11] <Doomray2000> the settings i used
[19:12] <chrisss123456> hey guys, im having some major conky issues
[19:12] <chrisss123456> can anyone help out?
[19:13] <andreb> guys a quick question : I had setup split dns for my email zimbra install... i was wondering how hard it is to move from a split dns setup to a full dns setup ?
[19:20] <loudMouth> can someone help me with a terminal problem?
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> loudMouth  start with a question
[19:21] <cimmm> Can anyone help with triple-head? Using 2nd gen Core i5 + nvidia gtx560Ti. Nvidia X settings no longer lets me check NVidia box, since changing primary adapter to onboard and back.
[19:21] <Doomray2000> + registered users arent going to meet them tomorrow afternoon, see what we need
[19:21] <cynicallemon> terminal probblem... sounds bad
[19:22] <sherbao> ahh it's a wonderful day
[19:22] <Guest65792> upgrade
[19:23] <Doomray2000> to upgrade the disk space on a separate thread, its likely you get email?
[19:23] <martyp> 12:45:32 PM) martyp: short form.  device driver writer and instructor from back in the day.  way way back, when GUI described brownie mix.  Most of what i know about unix no longer applies.  not even sure how to start to diagnose my problem.  i have two desktops, both loaded with 14.04, both completely updated.  first machine is 64 bit, works perfectly. second is 32 bit, and is strangely lacking in at least http access. ie, no bro
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> Doomray2000  are you a bot? who is the president of the united states?
[19:23] <loudMouth> My terminal I cannot cut/paste and no main menu with a white blinking cursor. How do I get the terminal to accept cut/paste?
[19:24] <martyp> bush
[19:24] <martyp> the guy we got now aint no president
[19:24] <cynicallemon> loudMouth: what terminal are you using? urxvt?
[19:25] <loudMouth> the one that comes with ubuntu studio Terminal Emulator.
[19:26] <headkase> loudMouth, select text outside of the terminal: right-click, copy.  Select text in the terminal: hold left click and drag to highlight.  Paste text in terminal for both: middle click in terminal.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> loudMouth  try shift-insert to paste
[19:29] <loudMouth> No good. terminal does not accept any input from mouse actions. I have 3 other computers in this office running same OS and their terminal looks way different including a blinking GREEN cursor. It's as though T am a user with no privlidges.
[19:29] <Doomray2000> any other language, so youre saving shit loads now then?
[19:32] <loudMouth> Will not accept keystroke input to the terminal either
[19:32] <Doomray2000> your input into this channel
[19:32] <thc> I have question
[19:32] <thc> "debootstrap program exited with an error" "Check /var/log or see virtual console #3" "failed to install the base system"
[19:32] <thc> How do I fix it
[19:33] <gebbione> hi all
[19:33] <Laban> I'm trying to launch my Xen VM with xl create testz.cfg, but I get some odd lines of errors that doesn't give me much to work with. Can anyone assist? http://pastebin.com/SMGBpt0F
[19:33] <Doomray2000> to give up
[19:36] <cynicallemon> thc: not much use unless we know the actual error or the debootstrap command youre trying to execute
[19:36] <loudMouth> The only thing I can do in the terminal is to type. All other aspects of the OS work as expected.
[19:36] <schoppenhauer> hello. I just installed kubuntu 14.04, and copied my .thunderbird-folder to the new home folder, but thunderbird appears to ignore this folder and starts with an empty profile
[19:36] <thc> It gets to base installation on NetBoot and it fails
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> loudMouth  is it gnome-terminal or some other terminal?
[19:38] <thc> I'm new to Ubuntu
[19:38] <loudMouth> It is xfce4-terminal 0.6.3
[19:38] <Doomray2000> lol loudMouth is a beta male
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> Doomray2000  if you are not a bot, drop the random comments
[19:38] <Doomray2000> a drop
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> !ops Doomray2000 is a bot
[19:39] <Doomray2000> nope, ops are staff
[19:39] <dakd> is there a way to change the color format from limited rgb to full on intel hd graphics
[19:39] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: you need to alter the profile setting to match the copied profile
[19:40] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: how?
[19:41] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: where else than in .thunderbird are profile-settings?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> schoppenhauer  maybe in ~/.mozilla/
[19:42] <schoppenhauer> MonkeyDust: no.
[19:42] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: what i normally do is i rename my copied folder to the default one thats created by tbird
[19:43] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: or update the profile.ini file to point to your copied folder
[19:44] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: that doesn't help. it is just ignored.
[19:45] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: doesn't help. it is still ignored.
[19:45] <chrisss123456> anyone have experience with synclient misbehaving? i want to disable the tap and drag feature, and i did (set TapAndDragGesture=off) but it still does the action, albeit for a very short time. Any thoughts?
[19:45] <cemotyz09> !ubottu |off-topic
[19:47] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: did you copy the whole tbird folder or just the profile folder inside it?
[19:51] <headkase> Not much going on, guess I'll come back later.  Cheers.
[19:51] <Beldar> schoppenhauer, Did you make sure there was no .thunderbird file there when transfered, you don't merger but replace.
[19:51] <schoppenhauer> Beldar: yes
[19:51] <schoppenhauer> thunderbird wasnt even installed then
[19:51] <Beldar> schoppenhauer, What OS is this?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> schoppenhauer  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[19:51] <schoppenhauer> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[19:52] <guardianpwr08> hello, i am working on making sure rsync is working properly... is this exclude file correct?  should i add anything else to be exlcuded? http://i.imgur.com/g98B2qe.png
[19:52] <wrongplace> when will 14.10 be released?
[19:53] <kubuntu_> the font rendering on ubuntu looks more like the one in OS X than in another linux distribution
[19:53] <kubuntu_> or its just me
[19:54] <wrongplace> can you help with this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2241973&p=13111032#post13111032
[19:55] <Laban> guardianpwr08: Do you want logs to be included?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> wrongplace, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[19:56] <cynicallemon> Beldar, you can merge a tbird profile folder if you wish, you just need to update profiles.ini to point it to the copied profile folder
[19:57] <schoppenhauer> cynicallemon: the whole folder.
[19:58] <guardianpwr08> Laban: probably no
[19:58] <Beldar> cynicallemon, never bothered the file should do do it.
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> ok ... permission fail.
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> it works nos.
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> now
[19:59] <cynicallemon> schoppenhauer: good :)
[19:59] <schoppenhauer> thx.
[20:01] <kubuntu_> damn
[20:01] <kubuntu_> I come from slackware and ubuntu kde feels like its way faster
[20:03] <GREG_> Hey, I've got a 250GB SSD. I have no intention of using more than 50GB. The laptop is not a powerhouse. How large should I make my SWAP partition?
[20:03] <kubuntu_> the size of your physical ram if you have more than 4GB
[20:03] <kubuntu_> that or more
[20:04] <bprompt> GREG_:   how much ram do you have? how much do you usually use?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> kubuntu_, we kubuntu users feel the same way
[20:04] <cynicallemon> GREG_: 2x RAM size but if you have a grunty setup then maybe no swap
[20:05] <GREG_> I think she's got 4GBs. If I'm not doing anything intense on it, will giving it something like a 50GB swap make any difference over a 4GB or 8GB SWAP?
[20:05] <kubuntu_> nooo
[20:05] <kubuntu_> thats crazy
[20:06] <cynicallemon> GREG_: generally 2x RAM is plenty
[20:06] <versigtig> Hello~
[20:06] <GREG_> Okay, Thanks all! See yah.
[20:07] <aum> hi folks - I've got a Brother MFC-260C scanner; ubuntu (x64) detects it with sane-find-scanner, but nothing I do makes it detectable with scanimage -L or xsane or anything else
[20:07] <thc> Is there way around installing base installation from NetBoot
[20:07] <aum> it used to work fine with earlier versions of ubuntu
[20:08] <versigtig> So I have been trying to get sound working on my Alienware with an Ubuntu 14.04 minimal install and have tried everything I've found at this point and can't figure it out. It should be working based on the information I'm getting but it just isn't. Anyone want to help me out?
[20:08] <ikonia> versigtig: first question is why are you using a minimal support ?
[20:08] <ikonia> as in minimal install
[20:09] <shoerain> my friend has a problem booting into ubuntu after a recent apt-get update. He's got a Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Anyone have any thoughts on how to diagnose his problem? I don't think it's a kernel issue as we've tried booting from an older kernel
[20:09] <Beldar> aum, simple scan is the basic scanner app
[20:09] <versigtig> ikonia: Oh, because I don't like all the extra programs Ubuntu installs with.
[20:09] <versigtig> I like knowing what packages are on my computer and what is installed.
[20:09] <ikonia> versigtig: I suggest you see if you can use a normal install to prove this works/doesn't work
[20:09] <ikonia> versigtig: then remove anything you don't need
[20:10] <versigtig> The Ubuntu full install has a Live CD version, right?
[20:10] <versigtig> Or you can run a live version off the CD.
[20:10] <ikonia> versigtig: I'm not suggesting you check it with a livecd
[20:10] <versigtig> I know.
[20:10] <ikonia> versigtig: I'm suggesting you verify this with a full install
[20:10] <leofseige> Hi.  where's debconf-get-selections with 14.04?  Trying to make a minimal package list for a preseed.
[20:10] <versigtig> Ack, okay.
[20:10] <versigtig> I might keep trying to figure it out, I've got it pretty well setup how I like with i3 and my other stuff.
[20:11] <aum> Beldar, simple scan doesn't work either, says 'no scanners detected'
[20:11] <TJ-> leofseige: "dpkg --get-selections" or you might get better results using "debfoster --show-keepers"
[20:11] <versigtig> Sorry, I normally use Arch but I wanted a less bleeding edge distro to run on an Alienware as it is so old and shitty that it took me forever to get working properly with a Windows 7 install.
[20:11] <thc> On Ubuntu NetBoot is best way to boot up I get to base installation then it fails
[20:12] <rberg_> leofseige: debconf-utils
[20:12] <Beldar> aum, 14.04?
[20:12] <kubuntu_> uh all that I know is that brother multifunction needs/only works with vendor drivers
[20:13] <aum> Beldar, actually, now on Debian Unstable
[20:13] <squinty> shoerain,  apt-get update shouldn't cause a booting problem, afaik,    apt-get upgrade (or more likely   apt-get dist-upgrade) can potentially cause problems.  I suspect (because of your comment about "previous kernel") your friend did a dist-upgrade.  if he did uninstall the new kernel
[20:14] <Beldar> aum, So your looking for debian support here?
[20:14] <thc> I wonder if I put hard drive in another pc then put the hd back in and boot up
[20:15] <aum> Beldar, yes, because the codebase is very similar, but Ubuntu people are usually more supportive and less dismissive and obnoxious than debian folks
[20:15] <leofseige> TJ-: rberg_: thanks
[20:15] <jpedroza2k_> Here is the issue I am having: I have a Lenovo laptop with Optimus graphics (GK107GLM [Quadro K1000M]) connected to 3 external displays through a dock. All the screens are working correctly, but they are being treated as one large display instead of 4 separate displays. If I change the xorg.conf file and assign each display to a separate X display and restart X, something overwrites xorg.conf and I lose all my changes.
[20:16] <Beldar> aum, Wrong channel this is ubuntu support, please don't waste or time with this, not supported.
[20:16] <thc> Is it possible to install Ubuntu from mini.iso through command line?
[20:17] <jpedroza2k_> Beldar, who was that message to?
[20:17] <dn4> what is the defaul password for  a 14.04 livecd
[20:17] <LjL-Laplet_> there is no password
[20:17] <jpedroza2k_> dn4, I think it is a blank password
[20:17] <Beldar> jpedroza2k_, To a user now gone.
[20:17] <jpedroza2k_> Beldar, thanks, thought you might mean me. :)
[20:18] <dn4> jpedroza2k_: that isn't it
[20:19] <jpedroza2k_> dn4, there is no password set on the live images
[20:20] <kubuntu_> if theres not then It cant log in with an empty password
[20:21] <cimmm> Any guidance for NVidia+intel triple-head on 14.04x64? Stuck on intel-only single screen and no nvidia config panel
[20:21] <jpedroza2k_> that are you trying to do. your question was what the password is.
[20:21] <jpedroza2k_> What*
[20:22] <kubuntu_> maybe he logged out or locked session and cant get back in
[20:22] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, I am doing the same thing now. You need the nvidia-driver and nvidia-prime with bumblebee to make it work
[20:23] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, I am using nvidia 331
[20:24] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, I think prime is a dependency for the 331 drivers.
[20:24] <cimmm> I have 331 and jpedroza2k_ It says bumblebee is for hybrid-graphics on laptops, and yes prime was dep for 331
[20:25] <netameta> How can i find out what listening on port 80 for me ? i have a basic ubuntu 13 installation with nginx and php
[20:25] <cimmm> jpedroza2k_ is bumble still where I'm looking for dual-head on desktop card plus onboard?
[20:26] <headkase> netameta, if you expect a web-server there in the URL bar of your browser put: 127.0.0.1:80 to connect to it.
[20:26] <najjar>  <netameta> sudo netstat -plnt
[20:27] <netameta> najjar,headkase thanks
[20:27] <netameta> seems nginx listening on 80- is 80/8000 same ?
[20:28] <headkase> netameta, 80 is the official web-server port for HTTP.  Some people use 8080 for their testing web-server port.
[20:29] <netameta> weird that nginx listens to 80 although i cant see anywhere in the config that it does
 you're welcome, I have no idea about 'nginx'
[20:29] <headkase> netameta, if you omit the port in a web browsers URL bar then the web browser will try port 80.  A URL for a different port has to be specified by the user manuall, like "http://www.google.com:8080"
[20:29] <headkase> *manually
[20:30] <jpedroza2k_> cimmm, You shouldn't need bumblebee unless it is considered an Optimus chipset. You will want to make sure you are not an Optimus.
[20:30] <jpedroza2k_> Otherwise it should work.
[20:30] <netameta> headkase yea i know mate, i am trying to have node js server listening on port 80 but each time i try listening it says it already listen but i think i figured why
[20:30] <versigtig> Huh, just a odd problem I thought ya'll might find noteworthy: I get sound through headphones when I have them plugged in but sound just won't come out of the laptop speakers. Ah well, good enough, haha. :D
[20:31] <headkase> netameta, either another service got to that port first or nginx is already starting in a different way than you are trying to start it?
[20:32] <netameta> headkase, well nginx is listening to it, i dont know why, however what i will do is listen to another port and rout it from nginx, so basically when normal url is used (at port 80) it will be routed to 800 or something
[20:33] <headkase> netameta, when you installed nginx it might have had a installation script in the package that set up the basics and enabled it as a service for you.  I would suggest putting your node.js content within nginx's http serv location?
[20:34] <netameta> headkase, yea
[20:36] <cimmm> jpedroza2k_ I don't believe I'm optimus. It's GTX560Ti. I'm just stuck here with no output to the GTX and only my intel. I previously had dual-head + idle intel before I changed BIOS adapter priority. Since I changed to onboard primary It's only displayed on my intel, even after switching primary back to PCIe
[20:38] <headkase> cimmm, one thing that bit me once is that in my BIOS I had my graphics order set to "iGPU Only" (built-in intel) and then my PCIe card would not give me a signal.  I had to hook back up to the intel port to get a screen to go into the BIOS to change that value so it was set to PCIe.
[20:38] <headkase> cimmm, and in my BIOS at least you can have both iGPU and PCIe enabled at the same time of course, it was just that I had it set to iGPU only.
[20:39] <Nokai> hello
[20:39] <cimmm> headkase, my BIOS has "iGPU multi-monitor support" which has always been on
[20:40] <headkase> cimmm, Have you tried other options there?  Like an option that explicitly states both iGPU and PCIe?
[20:41] <cimmm> heakase, no, I can turn off multi-monitor display and it will turn off my iGPU when using dGPU and vice-versa, but only other selection is primary GPU [PCI, PCIe, iGPU]
[20:41] <headkase> cimmm, "iGPU multi-monitor" to me says on the iGPU that one card can use multiple outputs.
[20:42] <headkase> cimmm, while PCIe would not necessarily be enabled..
[20:43] <headkase> cimmm, if the card not working is PCIe try that in your BIOS.  Only if it is PCIe though so you don't get left with no screen.
[20:43] <andygraybeal> what are your opinions on a distro for a slow computer (ubuntu based) ?
[20:43] <TJ-> andygraybeal: Lubuntu, Xubuntu are popular choices
[20:44] <cimmm> headkase, I'm currently PCIe primary, POST and GRUB go to DVI from PCIe then drops out to my intel at lightdm login screen, PCIe -> DVI goes blank but active after that
[20:44] <kubuntu_> I think that a 'slow' computer wont even handle firefox
[20:44] <andygraybeal> TJ-, do you have any personal thoughts about them?
[20:45] <TJ-> cimmm: Have you moved any saved "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" out the way so the system can auto-configure. If that file was written when the iGPU was primary, then that would explain your symptoms
[20:45] <TJ-> andygraybeal: In what way?
[20:45] <headkase> cimmm, You have output from your PCIe card until X (lightdm) starts?  If so, sounds like it's an X.Org issue instead of the hardware issue I was assuming.
[20:45] <andygraybeal> TJ-, i'm not sure.. if you prefer one over the other
[20:46] <Timoty> Hey, what's cimmm problem's?
[20:46] <cimmm> TJ-, no should I be backing up my xorg.conf before doing an X -configure?
[20:46] <kubuntu_> I liked more lubuntu that xubuntu
[20:46] <kubuntu_> well if you know what xfce is like and want to try something different
[20:46] <TJ-> cimmm: I'd recommend renaming any current xorg.conf and letting the system auto-configure itself
[20:47] <cimmm> relogging to chan from tablet so i can stop x and not miss a beat
[20:47] <TJ-> cimmm: if you've got an existing config, let us see it: "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[20:47] <headkase> cimmm, when you rename the files make sure they don't end in ".conf" instead end in ".conf.bak" if a file ends in ".conf" X will still try to parse it.
[20:47] <hichris123> Hi, I'm having problems compiling clang but I think it's mainly just a problem with my system.
[20:47] <hichris123> I'm getting " error:       use of undeclared identifier '__NR_rename'"
[20:47] <hichris123> Does anyone know how I might investigate this?
[20:49] <TJ-> hichris123: You're probably missing build dependencies in the form of -devel header files that declared "__NR_rename"
[20:49] <hichris123> TJ-: It looks like this is a system call, defined in asm.
[20:50] <TJ-> hichris123: I suspect that is the linux kernel headers, since it is defined in "include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h"
[20:50] <bish0p_> Hi, I'm having unity issues now that I've switched to 14.04, is there anyone that can help me?
[20:50] <hichris123> TJ-: Sooo... that's strange. What do you suggest doing? Reinstalling the kernal?
[20:51] <TJ-> hichris123: No, just ensure the kernel headers are installed for the currently running kernel
[20:51] <TJ-> hichris123: And check where the source-code's configure script thinks it should be found
[20:52] <cimmm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293485/
[20:52] <opex_> тоска
[20:52] <k1l> !ru | opex_
[20:53] <headkase> cimmm, that .conf only loads the intel driver and a modesetting driver - which you probably don't want.  Modesetting driver is slooow.
[20:53] <hichris123> TJ-: The header files are installed. How would I check where the script expects it to be vs. where it actually is?
[20:53] <opex_> ok
[20:54] <cimmm> Either way it has at least one monitor per card (nvidia is the 1:0.0) so that should be nvidia, but if modesetting does work in some manner, why arent my other monitors detected?
[20:54] <TJ-> cimmm: Right, so the iGPU is Intel on X Screen 0, and the 2nd device has unknown device at PCI 1:0:0, which is presumably the Nvidia device. As I said, rename that file so the system can autoconfigure when the X server starts, then look at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[20:54] <TIM___> Hey, so you've got a script. And you don't want to run ./file in a terminal every time you use it ... I don't remember how to make it a link. Can anyone help me out?
[20:54] <headkase> cimmm, listen to TJ-
[20:55] <cimmm> TJ-, ok thx I'm doing it now
[20:56] <TJ-> hichris123: If using an autoconf project, then "./configure" should have created a "config.log" and "config.h" that would help
[20:56] <bish0p_> I recently updated to 14.04, and now Unity isn't rendering any toolbars.
[20:57] <k1l> bish0p_: make sure the video drivers work for 3d
[20:58] <bish0p_> How can I check that? I'm kind of new to linux.
[20:58] <hichris123> TJ-: Yup, there's a config.log in there.
[20:58] <k1l> bish0p_: what video card is it and what driver is installed?
[20:59] <bish0p_> k1l, I'll check.
[20:59] <k1l> "lspci -v -s `lspci | awk '/VGA/{print $1}'`" into a pastebin
[21:00] <hichris123> TJ-: What should I be looking for?
[21:02] <TJ-> hichris123: That's the hardest question to answer! My usual answer is "anything that looks suspicious" and "anything related to locating required headers/libraries" - configure is responsible for finding them... it usually generates a summary of what was found/enabled/disabled at the end of the log
[21:02] <bish0p_> k1l, http://pastebin.com/PqL8NcKd
[21:03] <streulma> Ubuntu resolution at 2560x1600 px is to small. Is the best solution to scale with Xrandr or change resolution?
[21:03] <k1l> bish0p_: so you only got the intel cpu one (which should work ootb)
[21:03] <mykrobinson76> evening all
[21:04] <mykrobinson76> Running 14.04 on a Toshiba laptop. I can control the screen brightness with the slider with no trouble, no hacks needed. however, making it work with the hotkeys varies from one boot to the next. Ideas?
[21:05] <streulma> Is ASUS good for Ubuntu?
[21:05] <Timoty> <img src="apples.jpeg">
[21:05] <Timoty> error
[21:05] <bish0p_> k1l, yeah, if I restart lightdm from the terminal, they come up, but it doesn't stay when I power down.
[21:05] <bish0p_> k1l, normally this wouldn't be a problem, just leave the box on, but it's a laptop that gets moved around a lot
[21:05] <k1l> bish0p_: so guest account works?
[21:05] <eeee> Timoty: ? what's with that?
[21:06] <bish0p_> k1l, i uh, actually haven't tried that.
[21:06] <bish0p_> i'll go check that now
[21:06] <k1l> bish0p_: see logs what error that is. like .xsession-errors in home or dmesg in /var/log
[21:06] <hichris123> TJ-: Hmm, okay. I see output variables...
[21:07] <cimmm> Im back, failed again, this time I have errors of nvidia module does not exist, [drm] KMS is not enabled,  screen1 deleted no matching config section, and a ton of FBDEV(1): FBIOPUTCMAP: Device or resource busy.  if anybody wanted to look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293554/
[21:07] <streulma> is there ever a solution for running Unity on HiDPI screens like Retina?
[21:08] <Busserl> 640 pixel ought to be enough for everybody
[21:09] <k1l> streulma: afaik that should work
[21:09] <streulma> well, it's pixelated... k1l
[21:09] <hichris123> TJ-: Nothing stands out as strange to me...
[21:10] <guesterDave> I have an on board wifi card on my computer, how can I find out which device under /dev/ represents that wifi device?
[21:11] <pl0xz0rz> wasssp my peeps
[21:12] <hichris123> TJ-: Okay, this is interesting. I did  vim /usr/include/asm/audit_dir_write.h -- no file exists with that name.
[21:12] <TJ-> guesterDave: none; network devices don't get listed there. If you're looking for the Ethernet device name use "ifconfig -a"
[21:12] <pl0xz0rz> i r gay kek
[21:13] <ikonia> pl0xz0rz: please don't
[21:13] <ikonia> pl0xz0rz: this channel is for ubuntu support
[21:13] <ikonia> stick to that topic
[21:13] <pl0xz0rz> My fault
[21:13] <ikonia> no problem
[21:13] <Busserl> TJ-: wouldn't 'ip link' show all, and ifconfig would just show those from /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:14] <TJ-> hichris123: "/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h"
[21:14] <mattxtn> gpart
[21:14] <mattxtn> sry wrong window
[21:14] <TJ-> Busserl: No, ifconfig is the predecessor to iproute2 (which is where ip link comes from). Debian's ifupdown is responsible for "/etc/network/interfaces"
[21:14] <hichris123> TJ-: -bash: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-35-generic/include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h: Permission denied. The file exists though.
[21:15] <Busserl> TJ-: thank you
[21:15] <TJ-> hichris123: OK, that's because you're trying to edit it... use "vim -R ..." or "less"
[21:17] <TJ-> hichris123: So now you can do two things. 1) look in the source file that is trying to include that file and see what path is in the #include. 2) look at all the -I<include-path> entries passed to the compiler and figure out if the path to that header file can be built from those -I prefix paths
[21:18] <k1l> streulma: where is your issue with retina displays?
[21:18] <TJ-> hichris123: Also, in the target included file ensure that any #ifdef's surrounding the definition will be TRUE, otherwise the file might be included but the definition omitted
[21:21] <k1l> streulma: http://askubuntu.com/a/472266/31260
[21:23] <mzfd12> i needs some help
[21:25] <mattxtn> Is there a way to have a cpu/swap montor on the top panel of unity?
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> mattxtn  psensors
[21:25] <cimmm> If anyone could help me out, Xorg.0.log errors: nvidia module does not exist, [drm] KMS is not enabled,  screen1 deleted no matching config section, and a ton of FBDEV(1): FBIOPUTCMAP: Device or resource busy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293554/ thats after I renamed Xorg.conf from previous paste and gave full system restart - double checked BIOS settings just in case
[21:25] <mattxtn> Thank you MonkeyDust.
[21:26] <Timoty> cimmm did you modify the original xorg.conf file ?
[21:26] <Timoty> you can just regenerate a xorg.conf file
[21:27] <netameta_> anyone familiar with ec2/aws or knows of a channel related to those ?
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> mattxtn  i guess what i suggested is not what you want, apologies
[21:27] <Timoty> # nvidia-xconfig
[21:27] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so need to load or build or both the DKMS nvidia module
[21:28] <mattxtn> MonkeyDust, I just kind of figured that out.
[21:28] <netameta_> Do i get only 1 public DNS per account, or every instanse i make should have a dns as the way i have it now i only got 1 dns and i have 3 servers up
[21:28] <bish0p_> k1l, I can switch to it with a little bit of a wait, but I cannot go back without restarting
[21:28] <TJ-> cimmm: Also "KMS is not enabled" suggest the system may be booting with "nomodeset" - check that using "cat /proc/cmdline"
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> netameta_  if you don't get answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[21:30] <cimmm> TJ- options ro quiet splash
[21:32] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so no "nomodeset". So, the first thing to do is find out which nvidia driver is installed: "dms status"
[21:32] <TJ-> cimmm: My typo! "dkms status"
[21:33] <cimmm> bbswitch, 0.7, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed , nvidia-331, 331.38, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed , virtualbox, 4.3.10, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed
[21:33] <cimmm> , virtualbox-guest, 4.3.10, 3.13.0-35-generic, x86_64: installed
[21:35] <TJ-> cimmm: Good, so now lets see what is loaded into the kernel: "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[21:35] <bish0p_> k1l, would going back to my previous version fix it? I don
[21:36] <cimmm> TJ- nothin
[21:36] <bish0p_> *I don't mind doing that.
[21:36] <k1l> bish0p_: see the logs as explained above
[21:37] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so the module failed to load or wasn't attempted for some reason. Let's find out: "pastebinit < <(lspci -nnk && cat /var/log/dmesg)"
[21:37] <bish0p_> k1l, sorry, didn't see that.
[21:37] <k1l> bish0p_: see logs what error that is. like .xsession-errors in home or dmesg in /var/log
[21:38] <cimmm> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293756/
[21:39] <bish0p_> k1l, should I just throw dmesg into a pastebin?
[21:40] <k1l> bish0p_: yes. and the .xsessions-errors from the home
[21:40] <bish0p_> alright
[21:42] <TJ-> cimmm: Well, nvidia 331.38 supports the "GeForce GTX 560 Ti" so you don't need a later driver version
[21:42] <TJ-> cimmm: Try inserting the module manually: "sudo modprobe nvidia-331"
[21:42] <bish0p_> xsessions: http://pastebin.com/ywTWRhWv    dmesg: http://pastebin.com/6HGfjjfx
[21:44] <cimmm> TJ- lsmod showing nvidia as called by drm
[21:45] <cimmm> TJ- * nvidia as its own mod and called by drm
[21:47] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, so it is now loaded. Now try restarting the X server with "sudo service lightdm restart"
[21:50] <langlee>  -
[21:55] <k1l> bish0p_: try to delete the .XAuthority file in /home
[21:58] <cimmm> TJ- ok lightdm failed to restart, when started from tty1 manually i got stuck in a bad config loop
[21:59] <TJ-> cimmm: ouch.
[22:00] <TJ-> cimmm: was there a new "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" generated though? That'll capture any errors
[22:00] <cimmm> checking
[22:02] <cimmm> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8293881/ looks the same as last time
[22:04] <TJ-> cimmm: There's something up with the nvidia X org driver install: "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)"
[22:06] <TJ-> cimmm: Try doing "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-331" then a system reboot
[22:06] <cimmm> TJ- weird it was only an issue after primary display adapter =/
[22:07] <TJ-> cimmm: Could the BIOS/firmware be hiding the device/making it inaccessible, in some wy?
[22:09] <cimmm> TJ- I've only had experience playing with BIOS features in windows, and the only gpu options that made a real difference were primary adapter (POST and loading screen/login), and multi-monitor (turned off dGPU when iGPU is primary and vice-versa)
[22:09] <cimmm> TJ- have reinstalled, brb
[22:09] <TJ-> cimmm: what's the make/model of the motherboard/system ?
[22:11] <cimmm> TJ- ASRock z68 pro3/gen3 http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z68%20Pro3%20Gen3/
[22:11] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, found it in dmesg: "Z68 Extreme3"
[22:11] <cimmm> TJ- sry extreme not pro
[22:12] <TJ-> cimmm: OK, reading its manual
[22:15] <cimmm> TJ- "If you do not adjust the UEFI setup, the default value of “Onboard VGA      Share Memory”, [Auto], will disable D-Sub function when the add-on VGA card is     inserted to this motherboard." -- Don't remember reading that. I believe my shared memory is set to auto, and the monitor I'm connected to is dsub (vga)
[22:16] <waseemoff> hello room. after switching the ubuntu display language to Arabic and logging in, ubuntu asks if you want to change the standard folders names to the new language. I clicked "don't ask again" and now I changed my mind and I want these folder names to be in Arabic.  is there an easy way to do so?
[22:17] <cimmm> TJ- which is backward from the issue I'm having, but worth a try... rebooting to bios, this time logging with tablet
[22:17] <TJ-> cimmm: Yes, I've seen that in a lot of firmwares "auto" meaning "disable" when there's a discrete GPU also
[22:18] <TJ-> cimmm: Also check the DVMT settings. I think they may only be useful on Windows systems; not sure if the Linux Intel video drivers use that or not
[22:20] <TJ-> cimmm1:  on Page 10, point 6: "You can choose to use two of the three monitors only. D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI monitors cannot be enabled at the same time"
[22:21] <cimmm1> TJ- That's specific to the rear ports
[22:21] <TJ-> cimmm1: also, point 15
[22:21] <TJ-> cimmm1: It's specific to the IGP ports on the mobo
[22:22] <anoldhacker> Anyone know about /etc/debconf.conf?
[22:22] <Logan_> !anyone | anoldhacker
[22:23] <Logan_> er
[22:23] <Logan_> !anybody | anoldhacker
[22:23] <cimmm1> TJ- yes. I'm using only the DSub from iGPU, HDMI and DVI from NVidia
[22:23] <teward> anoldhacker, rather than asking "anyone know abuot X" how about you instead ask your actual question
[22:23] <Logan_> well I give up
[22:23] <teward> anoldhacker, also, consider checking the man page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/debconf.conf.5.html
[22:23] <anoldhacker> I came here with the question I have after reading the man page. ;)
[22:23] <Logan_> rww: why was !anyone deleted? :(
[22:24] <teward> anoldhacker, then ask your question istead of asking if anyone knows about the file
[22:24] <anoldhacker> What are the default databases in the first stanza of /etc/debconf.conf?
[22:25] <cimmm1> TJ- no nvidia mods loaded, should I attempt another probe for nvidia and lightdm restart?
[22:25] <cimmm1> TJ- (after reinstall ofc)
[22:27] <TJ-> cimmm1: Do the modprobe then immediately "pastebinit < <(tail -n 200 /var/log/kern.log)" to find out if anything 'interesting' is happening
[22:29] <eeee>  anoldhacker:  Generally, the backend database is located in /var/cache/debconf/
[22:29] <eeee> ( from the debconf manpage )
[22:31] <anoldhacker> That is the directory where the manpage suggests that debconf databases go.  I am looking specifically for the two required databases.
[22:31] <eeee> seems there is a config and template database
[22:31] <cimmm> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8294100/ some driver errors
[22:32] <anoldhacker> That directory doesn't exist on this system, and yet these stanzas are required.  That suggests that the default location is actually elsewhere.
[22:32] <TJ-> cimmm: That looks good: "[drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20130102 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 1"
[22:33] <cimmm> TJ- looks like power state mamgement not anything display
[22:33] <eeee> anoldhacker: maybe find / -iname templates ?
[22:33] <TJ-> anoldhacker: If the debconf directory is missing, then that suggests something has gone bad on the system.
[22:34] <cerouno> is there any software available that allows me to play my steam games on windows and stream the video, audio back to my ubuntu computer
[22:34] <cerouno> both computers are on my lan
[22:34] <popey> cerouno: yes, steam
[22:34] <cimmm> TJ- so if the driver WAS the issue and it's reinstalled, nvidia mod started manually, should I be deleting my xorg.conf and/or going for the X/lightdm restart?
[22:34] <cerouno> popey: i want to play my windows only games on a windows machine and have the video, sound back to me
[22:35] <TJ-> anoldhacker: debconf is used by dpkg and apt for package management
[22:35] <cerouno> e.g. use windows computer from my ubuntu computer
[22:35] <popey> cerouno: yes, steam does that now.
[22:35] <anoldhacker> Installs are working.  I'm trying to replace the DEBIAN_FRONTEND variable with a config entry.
[22:35] <popey> cerouno: http://store.steampowered.com/streaming/
[22:35] <cerouno> popey: how, i see no option in steam
[22:35] <TJ-> cimmm: ensure there is no "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" so that the X server can auto-configure itself, then try starting lightdm.
[22:36] <cerouno> popey: thanks
[22:36] <TJ-> anoldhacker: Do you mean you want "dpkg-reconfigure debconf" ?
[22:38] <anoldhacker> If I can do it without user interaction…
[22:38] <anoldhacker> Not sure that is safe...
[22:39] <cimmm1> TJ- my console doesn't display...
[22:39] <anoldhacker> manpage is suggestive.
[22:40] <cimmm1> TJ- GUI on 7 continues to display, dont know if my console is functioning behind that
[22:41] <anoldhacker> Yeah.  Not at all clear that it will work.  No way to set a specific option.  Tends to fallback to menu-based.
[22:42] <TJ-> anoldhacker: "pastebinit < <(sed -n '/Name: debconf\/frontend/,/^$/ { /utf-8/ d; p}' /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat)" ->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8294171/
[22:43] <TJ-> cimmm1: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get back to tty1
[22:43] <cimmm1> TK- Doesn't display, tried a restart as well, still no tty's
[22:44] <TJ-> cimmm1: Hmmm, is the nvidia device working now though?
[22:44] <anoldhacker> There is no /var/cache/debconf directory on this system.
[22:45] <TJ-> anoldhacker: What Ubuntu release is it, and which flavour (server, desktop, netinst) ?
[22:46] <anoldhacker> 14.04.  I assume server.
[22:47] <TJ-> anoldhacker: Is "/var/cache/" a mountpoint? Are there other directories in "/var/cache/" right now?
[22:47] <cimmm1> TJ- lightdm restart... hung (?) solid black screen, no TTY display from Ctrl+Alt+F#
[22:47] <anoldhacker> There are other directories. Checking mtab
[22:48] <Bashing-om> TJ-: anoldhacker " /var/cache/debconf " does exist on my 14.04 desktop - minimal install .
[22:48] <anoldhacker> Not a mount point.  Looking at a more standard system, the directory is present.
[22:49] <TJ-> cimmm1: Something isn't too good with that system, for sure. Long shot, but have you moved the unit or had it open? I'm wondering if there's a physical disconnect issue with the nvidia discrete card. Sometimes that can be caused simply be manipulating the external connectors too forcefully. Right now I'd be taking the side/lid off and ensuring the Nvidia card is firmly in its slot and locked down.
[22:49] <anoldhacker> In fact, so is the /etc/debconf.conf file.
[22:51] <anoldhacker> Maybe a bit of c&p is in order…
[22:51] <TJ-> anoldhacker: debconf is so vital I can't think of a combination of packages that wouldn't install it, so if "/var/cache/debconf" is missing, I'd suspect a file-system corruption issue, possibly that directory is now in /lost+found/ or just got plain lost?
[22:51] <cimmm1> TJ- card is still firm, security locks in place, and very little weight from connectors actually being exerted on the card. I'm still successfully dual-booting triple-headed win8 with dgpu primary, etc. If there's anything I can do from the working system to get this up I'd be glad to
[22:53] <TJ-> anoldhacker: sounds like you may need "debconf-copydb"
[22:53] <anoldhacker> package is there.  I'll c&p as necessary.  thkx
[22:54] <TJ-> cimmm1: OK, so Windows proves it works, so there's something up with the Ubuntu install. Have you tried booting a Desktop Live ISO image and seeing if it works as expected, even though it uses the nouveau driver not nvidia?
[22:56] <cimmm1> TJ- deleted ufd image let me see if I have CD or I'll just go back to w8 for a few
[22:57] <cimmm1> TJ- ok making new live usb
[23:00] <Valarkin_> !Guys, is there a good "Congratgs you have a server installed here's what you need to do next" kinda guide out there?  I know there are things I need to tweak and secure, but I've no idea where to start
[23:01] <TJ-> cimmm1: whatever is going on, I think you're correct to focus on the effect the firmware changes for primary device caused, but its hard to figure out *why* that is still causing an issue, and why the nvidia driver isn't being loaded automatically.
[23:09] <ee99ee> What package should I install for a local-only SMTP relay?
[23:09] <ee99ee> esmtp?
[23:22] <cimmm1> TJ- ubuntu 14.04.1 livecd via USB works without a hitch - all 3 displays via 2 cards working
[23:22] <bish0p_> k1l_, sorry, got pulled away from the computer. I deleted that file. Should I restart?
[23:22] <k1l_> bish0p_: yes
[23:23] <bish0p_> alright I will
[23:24] <cimmm1> TJ- I havent done much else to the system, at this point is it going to be easier to do a reinstall?
[23:27] <bish0p_> k1l_, no change
[23:27] <TJ-> cimmm1: Hmmm, there's no guarantee but if you are able to back-up our documents, settings, saved passwords and credentials for the system and web-sites, then I suppose the brute-force method will do :)
[23:30] <cimmm1> TJ- although I now have my BIOS settings adjusted (manually allocated shared igpu memory), with no plan of switching primary again (!) is there anything else I should do to avoid a repeat?
[23:31] <BIG_BOY> install gentoo
[23:31] <TJ-> cimmm1: Apart from never using the system (!) errr, maybe not generating a custom xorg.conf unless it is really needed
[23:32] <cimmm1> TJ- lol I figured my conf was first stop when screens fell off the face of the world, but thx much for your patience
[23:33] <TJ-> cimmm1: Something weird must have confused the drivers, the key thing is the nvidia driver not auto-loading, which suggested to me the card wasn't identifying correctly, which was what led me to suggest checking its physical fit
[23:34] <TJ-> cimmm1: if that was caused in firmware/software instead, it's hard to know what since you'd expect a manual modprobe to fail if there was a PCI identity issue
[23:35] <TJ-> cimmm1: I suppose it could have been some random corruption of a key file, in which case a reinstall should solve it without having to hunt it down
[23:36] <cimmm1> TJ- that was the weird part, the modprobe had no issues but x restart brought me to broken config loop (couldn't select any options), and the ghosted GUI over tty1 was extra strange
[23:37] <TJ-> cimmm1: If you ever figure out out, please let me know
[23:37] <bulletxt> hi, can I install kernel 3.16 on ubuntu 12.04 with ppa ? Thanks
[23:37] <bulletxt> im asking because I have a bug in official 3.13 so I need a newer one for 12.04
[23:37] <cimmm1> TJ- if I recreate it I'll definitely let you know
[23:38] <TJ-> !mainline | bulletxt: There are Ubuntu mainline kernel builds you can try
[23:38] <bulletxt> yes  but I dont understand if I can install those on 12.04 :S
[23:39] <bulletxt> I don't get if for example I can install 3.16 on 12.04
[23:39] <TJ-> bulletxt: They can be installed on any system; they should integrate with userspace too, since they're built with the standard Ubuntu config
[23:39] <bulletxt> ok
[23:40] <bulletxt> so I should be able to install v3.16.2-utopic on my 12.04
[23:40] <TJ-> bulletxt: sometimes the kernel does need a more recent userspace for changes in say procfs vs sysfs, but Linus requires the kernel not break the ABI
[23:41] <bulletxt> ok, the only way to understand if I can install those debs is to actually install them :)
[23:41] <TJ-> bulletxt: They can all be installed, your question more accurately would be "will they introduce any regressions?"
[23:42] <TJ-> bulletxt: to which the answer is "You'll have to test them to find out" :)
[23:42] <bulletxt> lol yea
[23:42] <bulletxt> well i have some issues with CIFS so i need a newer kernel
[23:42] <bulletxt> ill try latest 3.16
[23:42] <bulletxt> :D
[23:51] <hyperpupp> Hello can anyone help me.  I set up vsftpd and I can access it from local computers no problems but when I try to use it remotely I get error 530 login incorrect.  Has anyone run into this ?
[23:59] <ee99ee> what package should I install for a localhost smtp relay?