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hatch__huwshimi: hey how goes things?04:17
huwshimihatch__: OK, just trying to get all the bits of this delete/updating working04:18
hatch__are you going to be able to get your branch in pr shipped?04:21
huwshimihatch__: Oh, I forgot about that branch :)04:22
hatch__lol04:22
hatch__we are trying to get this release out this week!!!!04:22
hatch__it's looking possible04:23
hatch__oh so close04:23
hatch__also if you're looking to do some qa'ing https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/534 :)04:24
huwshimisure, I'll take a look04:29
huwshimihatch__: Can you only QA your branch with a real env?04:39
hatch__huwshimi: it's the only way to know for sure that the non 'undefined' string is not sent to Juju04:39
huwshimihatch__: Ah I see. How long will it take to get one set up?04:40
hatch__do you have a juju env set up alredy?04:40
hatch__like juju boostrappable 04:40
huwshimihatch__: No that I know of04:41
hatch__oh ok then you can forget about it for now....it doesn't take too long but you will need an ec2 account and all that04:41
huwshimisure04:41
huwshimihatch__: Last time I had it all set up juju and lxc wreaked havoc on my machine so I've been a little tentative in setting it up again.04:42
hatch__hmm intersting....well remind me in brussels and we can get you back up and running again04:43
huwshimihatch__: This was quite a while ago :)04:44
huwshimiI got burnt :)04:45
hatch__oh haha04:46
=== urulama-afk is now known as urulama
hatch__huwshimi: want to read a blog post and give me some feedback before I post it?05:09
huwshimihatch__: I can do that :)05:09
urulamamorning huwshimi, hatch__05:10
hatch__huwshimi: http://fromanegg.com/private/97035773367/tumblr_nbmbm7Hxpg1rojfnp  thanks05:10
hatch__urulama: hey morning05:10
hatch__u should read that post too, lemme know what you think05:11
huwshimiurulama: Morning!05:11
urulamafrom an egg :)05:11
hatch__haha yup05:12
urulamahatch__: kids do play with Lego :)05:13
hatch__:D05:13
urulamahatch__: who's the audience for this? 05:14
hatch__developers who don't know what juju is05:14
hatch__the people who are fawning all over docker right no05:15
huwshimihatch__: Looks good!05:16
hatch__awesome05:16
urulamahatch__: maybe first deploy apache, then destroy haproxy, for less downtime 05:19
hatch__:) can do05:20
hatch__thanks for reading!05:20
urulamahatch__: nice. i see it more for people that want to use juju for "solutions", but that means developers who want to increase the audience for their services as well05:24
hatch__urulama: yeah I've been meaning to write posts on solutions and stuff but just trying to find the time heh05:25
hatch__I want to get my blog moved over to Ghost first :)05:25
hatch__then I can use it as a case study05:26
urulamahatch__: nice though :) hope it gets traction05:26
hatch__yeah as do I, I want juju to get on the hype machine05:27
hatch__:)05:27
urulamathere was startup festival here in my town previous week, and i went there on saturday. docker, puppets and chef all over, people don't even get what orchestration is ... 05:28
hatch__nope they don't....I'm not sure what our problem is....like how do we get people to 'get it'05:30
hatch__hopefully my posts will help :)05:36
hatch__anywho I'm getting off now....cya in 8h urulama :)05:36
hatch__cya  in 16 huwshimi :P05:36
urulamahatch__: good night05:36
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rick_h_morning11:28
rick_h_frankban: ty for the charm releases11:29
frankbanrick_h_: np. FYI, the ftests don't work with the latest firefox(32), and I had to downgrade firefox in order to run them. it seems we need to wait for the next selenium release which will support the last gecko. added a card for that12:08
rick_h_frankban: thanks for that12:13
lucarick_h_: morning12:53
rick_h_morning luca 12:58
hatchfrankban: the dropping service errors bug...did you investigate a possible workaround?14:01
hatchit'a a pretty bad experience even if it's out of our control14:01
hatchjrwren_: That post is OBVIOUSLY wrong14:13
hatch:P14:14
* hatch didnt read the post14:14
jrwren_hatch: Its obvious that it is not obvious.14:21
jcastroyo rick_h_14:25
rick_h_jcsackett: yo14:26
frankbanhatch: no I did not14:26
rick_h_he left in a hurry14:26
jcsackettrick_h_: hola.14:26
rick_h_jcsackett: sorry, jcastro ping'd then bailed and my tab complete wasn't fast enough14:26
rick_h_there he is 14:26
rick_h_how dare he 'yo' and run14:26
hatchhaha14:26
* jcsackett laughs14:27
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rick_h_jcastro: what's up?14:28
jcastrorick_h_, hey so do you guys have a plan for tests in the juju-gui charm?14:34
hatchjujugui I still need a review and qa on my branch14:35
Makyohatch,  on it14:36
hatchthanks14:36
rick_h_jcastro: hmm, thought it had tests. 14:46
rick_h_jcastro: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-gui-charmers/charms/trusty/juju-gui/trunk/view/head:/Makefile#L4914:47
jcastrorick_h_, hmm, how did the packaging thing sneak through?14:48
rick_h_jcastro: huh?14:48
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/136630214:50
mupBug #1366302: install fail due to lbapt-pkg-dev <orange-box> <juju-gui:Fix Released by frankban> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366302>14:50
hatchjujugui last night I wrote a new blog post. When you get a chance to read it let me know what you think http://fromanegg.com/post/97035773367/juju-explain-it-to-me-like-im-514:51
rick_h_jcastro: it only occurrs with the cloud-archive from what I can tell14:51
rick_h_jcastro: and we don't run that on our systems when we run the tests14:51
jcastrohave we thought about adding it?14:51
rick_h_jcastro: when we run tests and QA on plain trusty/precise everything is fine14:51
jcastroUCA is kind of bundled with everything14:51
rick_h_jcastro: not until this happened14:51
* jcastro nods14:51
rick_h_jcastro: because we're working on developers plain system14:51
* jcastro nods14:51
rick_h_it's bundled on clouds we stand up, but we don't have that in the docs for users to do14:52
rick_h_and it's not something we tend to think about on our end tbh14:52
jcastroI don't think we're using UCA on the orangebox though14:52
rick_h_if anything, it feels a bit like those putting together cloud archive and a juju solution for a client like that might want to deploy the gui in their CI?14:52
jcastroonce we fire it up we'll double check14:52
rick_h_jcastro: kirkland verified he was last night14:52
rick_h_jcastro: for his demo and when he hit the bug14:52
rick_h_so the two reporters of the bug have both had UCA enabled14:53
jcastroyeah I am just not sure if that's his OB, or if all OBs are using UCA14:53
rick_h_k14:53
rick_h_more info is welcome14:53
rick_h_jcastro: but it also brings up should the Juju QA team be doing diff testing with that as well?14:53
rick_h_jujugui call in 7 please kanban14:54
rick_h_jujugui call in 1 go go go14:59
rick_h_jcsackett: rogpeppe &15:00
rick_h_^ that is15:00
marcoceppirick_h_: about to give lightnign talk about publish stuff and start a conversation here15:14
marcoceppimight get a flurry of questions from me in the next few mins ;)15:14
rick_h_marcoceppi: lol ok15:14
kadams54hatch: when you have a moment, take a look at my comment on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/536 and then we can chat.15:18
hatch kadams54 replied15:20
kadams54hatch: And it's back to you :-)15:21
hatchand replied hah15:24
jrwren_hatch: reading your blogpost.  APT for the cloud scares me as APT is Advanced Persistant Threat. 15:25
rick_h_jrwren_: hah, yea hatch it's normally 'apt-get for the cloud'15:26
jrwren_hatch: puppet and chef charms? I had no idea!15:28
jcastronice work hatch!15:28
hatchjrwren_: rick_h_ ok I'll change that15:30
hatchjrwren_:  yup anything that can be executed :)15:30
hatchjcastro: thanks glad yolu like it :) 15:31
jcastrohatch, I've got my elasticsearch one coming up today too15:31
hatchjcastro: already read and retweeted :)15:32
jcastrogrr, my CDN is behind so my pictures didn't show up15:33
rick_h_marcoceppi: went well I supose?15:53
hatchjcastro: are there any good examples in the charmstore of a charm written with chef/puppet/ansible etc?15:58
jcastrohatch, elasticsearch bundle, it's featured15:58
jcastroconsider that your new "flagbearer" example. has tests, etc.15:58
hatchit's ansible?15:58
hatchI'd love 3 charms, one written using each and related together.....that would be awesome 15:59
jcastroyeah15:59
jcastrorails is chef15:59
jcastrohatch, we're having a session here in about 15 minutes where we're going to add those examples to the documentation/.16:00
hatchcool16:00
jcastroI'm about to post links to both our posts on the ubuntu fb page16:01
hatchgreat :) 16:05
* rick_h_ goes to nuke up some leftovers biab16:07
marcoceppirick_h_: yeah. We're going to be having a lot of feedback for you. Had to bump to a second session16:54
rick_h_marcoceppi: lol ok cool16:55
marcoceppirick_h_: but expect user stories and the like from our perspective16:55
rick_h_marcoceppi: awesome, they'll be very helpful16:55
hatchlol this keynote stream17:14
kadams54hatch: I made code changes on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/536 - we should talk more about onboarding and pending because I feel like we're two ships passing in the night right now.17:27
kadams54hatch: and yes, this keynote stream is *super* janky. Are you also hearing the translators?17:28
hatchthey just stopped17:28
kadams54Cell companies have to be <sarcasm>thrilled</sarcasm> with wifi being seamlessly used by the phone app. I'm not surprised that it's T-Mobile and not AT&T taht supports it.17:29
hatchhaha 17:30
hatchannnd there the stream goes17:31
hatchwell it was decent while it lasted17:32
hatchkadams54: so if you move that toggle inside the pending conditional what doesn't get hidden then?17:36
rick_h_hatch: kadams54 ok, I'm looking at this branch and have a question then. You guys have time to chat in the standup hangout?17:39
hatchyop17:39
kadams54rick_h_: sure.17:39
kadams54And there's the iWatch.17:59
hatchwhat sorry it froze again18:00
hatchlol18:00
kadams54Sorry, the AppleWATCH18:01
hatchbahahaha https://twitter.com/jbasher/status/50939841423764275418:02
kadams54lol18:02
kadams54'Course, most Apple users (me included) already store our credit cards there for Apple's various stores (iOS, App, iTunes).18:03
hatchyeah so do i hah18:05
hatchneed my em pee threes18:05
hatchthe dial on the watch is pretty cool idea18:06
Makyojujugui need reviews/live env QA: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/53518:07
hatchhmm tests pass.....tests should fail....damnuit18:07
kadams54lol18:07
jcsacketthatch: you free for a few? want to walk someone else through this bug before i file the world's vaguest bug report.18:30
hatchlol sure one sec?18:31
jcsackettsure; i'll be in hangout standup.18:31
hatchok im ther18:31
kadams54Ha ha19:06
kadams54Apple ended the keynote with U2 announcing their new album had just been released for free on iTunes.19:06
kadams54iTunes Store is now down.19:06
kadams54Also unavailable is their systems status page19:07
kadams54rick_h_, hatch: just pushed the changes we discussed. Take a look, especially at inspector-header.handlebars and comments in topology/service.js.19:10
rick_h_kadams54: rgr19:11
rick_h_kadams54: <319:25
hatchkadams54: is that how you do comments in handlebars?19:36
jcsackettjujugui: can i get two people to look at https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/53920:06
hatchjujugui I also need reviews on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/54020:11
hatchlooks like everyone should grab some reviews :)20:11
rick_h_review day!20:11
rick_h_looking at yours jcsackett 20:11
hatchkadams54: +1 just plz rebase it down :)20:17
hatchMakyo: is yours ready to go again?20:18
hatchoh...yes20:18
kadams54hatch: yeah, will do.20:22
hatchMakyo: so I see your changes...sure seems like a lot of work, why didn't simply setting the button to be disabled work?20:25
hatch(curious)20:25
rick_h_hatch: Makyo added a qa note on the branch as well20:28
hatchcool saw that - I am just spinning up a fresh env to test in20:28
rick_h_hatch: +1 on the test. It feels like there needs to be one for each state it could be in correct? Do the other states already have a test perhaps? 20:28
hatchthat's what I was thinking but I figured I'd wait to hear the response 20:29
rick_h_ok, think I've gotten nosy about everyone's branches. Going to EOD. 20:31
* rick_h_ runs away20:31
hatchhah cya20:34
jrwren_Good evening all, I'm gone for day.21:09
Makyohatch, sorry, was at appointment.  Setting the button disabled was fine until the next ecs change came through, then the deployer bar was updated.  Also, after commit, the deployer bar is rerendered.21:17
hatchahh....well it turns out there is a qa issue :) sorry21:18
MakyoThat's fine, will get to it.21:18
hatchtaking a break. bbiab21:42
rick_h_jcsackett: hey, your comment makes me think of a QA scenario there21:48
rick_h_jcsackett: so this delete unit should be able to clear-all and have that still work21:49
jcsackettoh?21:49
rick_h_jcsackett: did you test the clear-all of a uncommitted 'remove unit'?21:49
jcsackettrick_h_: i saw that hatch was doing QA and didn't.21:49
jcsackettrick_h_: but nominally i'll bet it fails.21:49
jcsackettlemme spin it up.21:50
rick_h_jcsackett: rgr, ok21:52
jcsackettrick_h_: so, it looks like that actually works.21:52
rick_h_jcsackett: ok cool21:52
jcsackettwhich surprises me.21:52
rick_h_I was wondering about the 'deleted attribute' and I assumed it would be required for that21:53
jcastrorick_h_, ctrl-alt-h!22:23
jcastrorick_h_, also, is that not available on jujucharms.com?22:23
rick_h_jcastro: checking. I was just trying to deploy a live charm and see what is has. I thought we did release it22:26
rick_h_jcastro: jujucharms.com might be too old I guess. comingsoon has it. 22:27
jcastrothe kbd shortcut will do the job for now, thanks22:27
rick_h_jcastro: we've got the MV release the week of the 22nd per marketing/etc so everything will get updated then22:27
jcastroI always forget to hit ?22:27
jcastro:(22:27
rick_h_ok, sorry for the short curt reply at first22:27
rick_h_I forgot it might not have been released, it was so long ago we added it22:27
jcastrono worries22:28
jcastroit's just on a projector the combo of the sidebar and "lol your resolution sucks resize your browser" is pretty bad22:29
rick_h_jcastro: yep, understood, definitely +1 on the shortcut to hide it for that stuff22:29
rick_h_jcastro: thanks for letting me know you're unblocked. 22:29
jcastrohey so kirkland called me22:31
jcastroapparently everything is running flawlessly22:31
rick_h_sweet!22:31
jcastrorick_h_, also he mentioned that maas will pull in cloud archive stuff22:31
jcastrowhich is why even though you reinstall an OB from scratch with vanilla ubuntu22:31
rick_h_jcastro: yea, we've got on our todo to get better at MAAS testing and such. It's been a bit off our radar22:31
jcastroat some point, UCA will be added and enabled22:32
jcastroyeah also, any plans to add maas support to quickstart22:32
rick_h_right, we released the two charm fixes today so we're good for now, but have a todo to make sure we do better testing/qa on that front. Kind of :/ so many combinations 22:32
jcastroor will whatever core does just supercede that?22:32
rick_h_jcastro: yes, that's still on our cycle todo and we filed a FFE for it22:32
jcastroack22:32
rick_h_jcastro: have you guys tried out machine view on the orange box this week yet?22:35
jcastrorick_h_, it's been bootstrapping/deploying all day, network is :(22:37
jcastrorick_h_, I'll have it for a full week at home on ethernet though, so I'll have time22:37
rick_h_jcastro: ok, I might bug you about coming over and trying to do a screencast/demo next week then22:38
rick_h_jcastro: there's one in the web team in london we're also trying to get some qa/shots from so we'll see. Thanks22:38
jcastroI have 2 swap days next week so if you wanna meet me halfway transportation wise you can borrow it?22:39
rick_h_oh hmm, we'll see. 22:39
hatchoh I didn't know you guys lived close together22:39
rick_h_jcastro: you taking them mon/tues? or later in the week?22:39
jcastroprobably mon/tue?22:40
rick_h_jcastro: ok, maybe I will then. I'll be gone camping until Sun night but maybe can meet up Monday. 22:40
rick_h_jcastro: setup pretty easy?22:41
jcastrorick_h_, I'll call you when I get home and we'll figure something out22:41
* rick_h_ hasn't looked much at how it works22:41
rick_h_jcastro: k thx much22:41
jcastroit's pretty much follow the directions, I'll send them to you now22:41
hatchto buy a ps4 or xbox one...or neither....that's the question22:44
huwshimiMorning23:01
rick_h_morning huwshimi 23:01
hatchmorning huwshimi23:20
huwshimihatch: Do you have any idea how this actually updates the machine token? https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/app/widgets/machine-view-panel.js#L129223:27
huwshimiOh, nevermind, it doesn't you have to call render manually :)23:27
hatch:)23:36
jcastrohey fellas I have 2 incoming MPs for your charm to make it pass charm proof23:38
jcastrowhich we need for automated charm testing to not show you guys as bright red fails.23:38
hatchjcastro: u rock23:58
huwshimihatch: I've fixed the machine token updating icons, would you mind checking the branch again? https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/53823:58
hatch*grumble grumble grumble*23:58
hatchok fine23:58
hatch:P23:58

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