[04:17] huwshimi: hey how goes things? [04:18] hatch__: OK, just trying to get all the bits of this delete/updating working [04:21] are you going to be able to get your branch in pr shipped? [04:22] hatch__: Oh, I forgot about that branch :) [04:22] lol [04:22] we are trying to get this release out this week!!!! [04:23] it's looking possible [04:23] oh so close [04:24] also if you're looking to do some qa'ing https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/534 :) [04:29] sure, I'll take a look [04:39] hatch__: Can you only QA your branch with a real env? [04:39] huwshimi: it's the only way to know for sure that the non 'undefined' string is not sent to Juju [04:40] hatch__: Ah I see. How long will it take to get one set up? [04:40] do you have a juju env set up alredy? [04:40] like juju boostrappable [04:41] hatch__: No that I know of [04:41] oh ok then you can forget about it for now....it doesn't take too long but you will need an ec2 account and all that [04:41] sure [04:42] hatch__: Last time I had it all set up juju and lxc wreaked havoc on my machine so I've been a little tentative in setting it up again. [04:43] hmm intersting....well remind me in brussels and we can get you back up and running again [04:44] hatch__: This was quite a while ago :) [04:45] I got burnt :) [04:46] oh haha === urulama-afk is now known as urulama [05:09] huwshimi: want to read a blog post and give me some feedback before I post it? [05:09] hatch__: I can do that :) [05:10] morning huwshimi, hatch__ [05:10] huwshimi: http://fromanegg.com/private/97035773367/tumblr_nbmbm7Hxpg1rojfnp thanks [05:10] urulama: hey morning [05:11] u should read that post too, lemme know what you think [05:11] urulama: Morning! [05:11] from an egg :) [05:12] haha yup [05:13] hatch__: kids do play with Lego :) [05:13] :D [05:14] hatch__: who's the audience for this? [05:14] developers who don't know what juju is [05:15] the people who are fawning all over docker right no [05:16] hatch__: Looks good! [05:16] awesome [05:19] hatch__: maybe first deploy apache, then destroy haproxy, for less downtime [05:20] :) can do [05:20] thanks for reading! [05:24] hatch__: nice. i see it more for people that want to use juju for "solutions", but that means developers who want to increase the audience for their services as well [05:25] urulama: yeah I've been meaning to write posts on solutions and stuff but just trying to find the time heh [05:25] I want to get my blog moved over to Ghost first :) [05:26] then I can use it as a case study [05:26] hatch__: nice though :) hope it gets traction [05:27] yeah as do I, I want juju to get on the hype machine [05:27] :) [05:28] there was startup festival here in my town previous week, and i went there on saturday. docker, puppets and chef all over, people don't even get what orchestration is ... [05:30] nope they don't....I'm not sure what our problem is....like how do we get people to 'get it' [05:36] hopefully my posts will help :) [05:36] anywho I'm getting off now....cya in 8h urulama :) [05:36] cya in 16 huwshimi :P [05:36] hatch__: good night === mup_ is now known as mup [11:28] morning [11:29] frankban: ty for the charm releases [12:08] rick_h_: np. FYI, the ftests don't work with the latest firefox(32), and I had to downgrade firefox in order to run them. it seems we need to wait for the next selenium release which will support the last gecko. added a card for that [12:13] frankban: thanks for that [12:53] rick_h_: morning [12:58] morning luca [14:01] frankban: the dropping service errors bug...did you investigate a possible workaround? [14:01] it'a a pretty bad experience even if it's out of our control [14:13] jrwren_: That post is OBVIOUSLY wrong [14:14] :P [14:14] * hatch didnt read the post [14:21] hatch: Its obvious that it is not obvious. [14:25] yo rick_h_ [14:26] jcsackett: yo [14:26] hatch: no I did not [14:26] he left in a hurry [14:26] rick_h_: hola. [14:26] jcsackett: sorry, jcastro ping'd then bailed and my tab complete wasn't fast enough [14:26] there he is [14:26] how dare he 'yo' and run [14:26] haha [14:27] * jcsackett laughs === urulama is now known as urulama-afk [14:28] jcastro: what's up? [14:34] rick_h_, hey so do you guys have a plan for tests in the juju-gui charm? [14:35] jujugui I still need a review and qa on my branch [14:36] hatch, on it [14:36] thanks [14:46] jcastro: hmm, thought it had tests. [14:47] jcastro: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-gui-charmers/charms/trusty/juju-gui/trunk/view/head:/Makefile#L49 [14:48] rick_h_, hmm, how did the packaging thing sneak through? [14:48] jcastro: huh? [14:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1366302 [14:50] Bug #1366302: install fail due to lbapt-pkg-dev

[14:51] jujugui last night I wrote a new blog post. When you get a chance to read it let me know what you think http://fromanegg.com/post/97035773367/juju-explain-it-to-me-like-im-5 [14:51] jcastro: it only occurrs with the cloud-archive from what I can tell [14:51] jcastro: and we don't run that on our systems when we run the tests [14:51] have we thought about adding it? [14:51] jcastro: when we run tests and QA on plain trusty/precise everything is fine [14:51] UCA is kind of bundled with everything [14:51] jcastro: not until this happened [14:51] * jcastro nods [14:51] jcastro: because we're working on developers plain system [14:51] * jcastro nods [14:52] it's bundled on clouds we stand up, but we don't have that in the docs for users to do [14:52] and it's not something we tend to think about on our end tbh [14:52] I don't think we're using UCA on the orangebox though [14:52] if anything, it feels a bit like those putting together cloud archive and a juju solution for a client like that might want to deploy the gui in their CI? [14:52] once we fire it up we'll double check [14:52] jcastro: kirkland verified he was last night [14:52] jcastro: for his demo and when he hit the bug [14:53] so the two reporters of the bug have both had UCA enabled [14:53] yeah I am just not sure if that's his OB, or if all OBs are using UCA [14:53] k [14:53] more info is welcome [14:53] jcastro: but it also brings up should the Juju QA team be doing diff testing with that as well? [14:54] jujugui call in 7 please kanban [14:59] jujugui call in 1 go go go [15:00] jcsackett: rogpeppe & [15:00] ^ that is [15:14] rick_h_: about to give lightnign talk about publish stuff and start a conversation here [15:14] might get a flurry of questions from me in the next few mins ;) [15:14] marcoceppi: lol ok [15:18] hatch: when you have a moment, take a look at my comment on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/536 and then we can chat. [15:20] kadams54 replied [15:21] hatch: And it's back to you :-) [15:24] and replied hah [15:25] hatch: reading your blogpost. APT for the cloud scares me as APT is Advanced Persistant Threat. [15:26] jrwren_: hah, yea hatch it's normally 'apt-get for the cloud' [15:28] hatch: puppet and chef charms? I had no idea! [15:28] nice work hatch! [15:30] jrwren_: rick_h_ ok I'll change that [15:30] jrwren_: yup anything that can be executed :) [15:31] jcastro: thanks glad yolu like it :) [15:31] hatch, I've got my elasticsearch one coming up today too [15:32] jcastro: already read and retweeted :) [15:33] grr, my CDN is behind so my pictures didn't show up [15:53] marcoceppi: went well I supose? [15:58] jcastro: are there any good examples in the charmstore of a charm written with chef/puppet/ansible etc? [15:58] hatch, elasticsearch bundle, it's featured [15:58] consider that your new "flagbearer" example. has tests, etc. [15:58] it's ansible? [15:59] I'd love 3 charms, one written using each and related together.....that would be awesome [15:59] yeah [15:59] rails is chef [16:00] hatch, we're having a session here in about 15 minutes where we're going to add those examples to the documentation/. [16:00] cool [16:01] I'm about to post links to both our posts on the ubuntu fb page [16:05] great :) [16:07] * rick_h_ goes to nuke up some leftovers biab [16:54] rick_h_: yeah. We're going to be having a lot of feedback for you. Had to bump to a second session [16:55] marcoceppi: lol ok cool [16:55] rick_h_: but expect user stories and the like from our perspective [16:55] marcoceppi: awesome, they'll be very helpful [17:14] lol this keynote stream [17:27] hatch: I made code changes on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/536 - we should talk more about onboarding and pending because I feel like we're two ships passing in the night right now. [17:28] hatch: and yes, this keynote stream is *super* janky. Are you also hearing the translators? [17:28] they just stopped [17:29] Cell companies have to be thrilled with wifi being seamlessly used by the phone app. I'm not surprised that it's T-Mobile and not AT&T taht supports it. [17:30] haha [17:31] annnd there the stream goes [17:32] well it was decent while it lasted [17:36] kadams54: so if you move that toggle inside the pending conditional what doesn't get hidden then? [17:39] hatch: kadams54 ok, I'm looking at this branch and have a question then. You guys have time to chat in the standup hangout? [17:39] yop [17:39] rick_h_: sure. [17:59] And there's the iWatch. [18:00] what sorry it froze again [18:00] lol [18:01] Sorry, the AppleWATCH [18:02] bahahaha https://twitter.com/jbasher/status/509398414237642754 [18:02] lol [18:03] 'Course, most Apple users (me included) already store our credit cards there for Apple's various stores (iOS, App, iTunes). [18:05] yeah so do i hah [18:05] need my em pee threes [18:06] the dial on the watch is pretty cool idea [18:07] jujugui need reviews/live env QA: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/535 [18:07] hmm tests pass.....tests should fail....damnuit [18:07] lol [18:30] hatch: you free for a few? want to walk someone else through this bug before i file the world's vaguest bug report. [18:31] lol sure one sec? [18:31] sure; i'll be in hangout standup. [18:31] ok im ther [19:06] Ha ha [19:06] Apple ended the keynote with U2 announcing their new album had just been released for free on iTunes. [19:06] iTunes Store is now down. [19:07] Also unavailable is their systems status page [19:10] rick_h_, hatch: just pushed the changes we discussed. Take a look, especially at inspector-header.handlebars and comments in topology/service.js. [19:11] kadams54: rgr [19:25] kadams54: <3 [19:36] kadams54: is that how you do comments in handlebars? [20:06] jujugui: can i get two people to look at https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/539 [20:11] jujugui I also need reviews on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/540 [20:11] looks like everyone should grab some reviews :) [20:11] review day! [20:11] looking at yours jcsackett [20:17] kadams54: +1 just plz rebase it down :) [20:18] Makyo: is yours ready to go again? [20:18] oh...yes [20:22] hatch: yeah, will do. [20:25] Makyo: so I see your changes...sure seems like a lot of work, why didn't simply setting the button to be disabled work? [20:25] (curious) [20:28] hatch: Makyo added a qa note on the branch as well [20:28] cool saw that - I am just spinning up a fresh env to test in [20:28] hatch: +1 on the test. It feels like there needs to be one for each state it could be in correct? Do the other states already have a test perhaps? [20:29] that's what I was thinking but I figured I'd wait to hear the response [20:31] ok, think I've gotten nosy about everyone's branches. Going to EOD. [20:31] * rick_h_ runs away [20:34] hah cya [21:09] Good evening all, I'm gone for day. [21:17] hatch, sorry, was at appointment. Setting the button disabled was fine until the next ecs change came through, then the deployer bar was updated. Also, after commit, the deployer bar is rerendered. [21:18] ahh....well it turns out there is a qa issue :) sorry [21:18] That's fine, will get to it. [21:42] taking a break. bbiab [21:48] jcsackett: hey, your comment makes me think of a QA scenario there [21:49] jcsackett: so this delete unit should be able to clear-all and have that still work [21:49] oh? [21:49] jcsackett: did you test the clear-all of a uncommitted 'remove unit'? [21:49] rick_h_: i saw that hatch was doing QA and didn't. [21:49] rick_h_: but nominally i'll bet it fails. [21:50] lemme spin it up. [21:52] jcsackett: rgr, ok [21:52] rick_h_: so, it looks like that actually works. [21:52] jcsackett: ok cool [21:52] which surprises me. [21:53] I was wondering about the 'deleted attribute' and I assumed it would be required for that [22:23] rick_h_, ctrl-alt-h! [22:23] rick_h_, also, is that not available on jujucharms.com? [22:26] jcastro: checking. I was just trying to deploy a live charm and see what is has. I thought we did release it [22:27] jcastro: jujucharms.com might be too old I guess. comingsoon has it. [22:27] the kbd shortcut will do the job for now, thanks [22:27] jcastro: we've got the MV release the week of the 22nd per marketing/etc so everything will get updated then [22:27] I always forget to hit ? [22:27] :( [22:27] ok, sorry for the short curt reply at first [22:27] I forgot it might not have been released, it was so long ago we added it [22:28] no worries [22:29] it's just on a projector the combo of the sidebar and "lol your resolution sucks resize your browser" is pretty bad [22:29] jcastro: yep, understood, definitely +1 on the shortcut to hide it for that stuff [22:29] jcastro: thanks for letting me know you're unblocked. [22:31] hey so kirkland called me [22:31] apparently everything is running flawlessly [22:31] sweet! [22:31] rick_h_, also he mentioned that maas will pull in cloud archive stuff [22:31] which is why even though you reinstall an OB from scratch with vanilla ubuntu [22:31] jcastro: yea, we've got on our todo to get better at MAAS testing and such. It's been a bit off our radar [22:32] at some point, UCA will be added and enabled [22:32] yeah also, any plans to add maas support to quickstart [22:32] right, we released the two charm fixes today so we're good for now, but have a todo to make sure we do better testing/qa on that front. Kind of :/ so many combinations [22:32] or will whatever core does just supercede that? [22:32] jcastro: yes, that's still on our cycle todo and we filed a FFE for it [22:32] ack [22:35] jcastro: have you guys tried out machine view on the orange box this week yet? [22:37] rick_h_, it's been bootstrapping/deploying all day, network is :( [22:37] rick_h_, I'll have it for a full week at home on ethernet though, so I'll have time [22:38] jcastro: ok, I might bug you about coming over and trying to do a screencast/demo next week then [22:38] jcastro: there's one in the web team in london we're also trying to get some qa/shots from so we'll see. Thanks [22:39] I have 2 swap days next week so if you wanna meet me halfway transportation wise you can borrow it? [22:39] oh hmm, we'll see. [22:39] oh I didn't know you guys lived close together [22:39] jcastro: you taking them mon/tues? or later in the week? [22:40] probably mon/tue? [22:40] jcastro: ok, maybe I will then. I'll be gone camping until Sun night but maybe can meet up Monday. [22:41] jcastro: setup pretty easy? [22:41] rick_h_, I'll call you when I get home and we'll figure something out [22:41] * rick_h_ hasn't looked much at how it works [22:41] jcastro: k thx much [22:41] it's pretty much follow the directions, I'll send them to you now [22:44] to buy a ps4 or xbox one...or neither....that's the question [23:01] Morning [23:01] morning huwshimi [23:20] morning huwshimi [23:27] hatch: Do you have any idea how this actually updates the machine token? https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/app/widgets/machine-view-panel.js#L1292 [23:27] Oh, nevermind, it doesn't you have to call render manually :) [23:36] :) [23:38] hey fellas I have 2 incoming MPs for your charm to make it pass charm proof [23:38] which we need for automated charm testing to not show you guys as bright red fails. [23:58] jcastro: u rock [23:58] hatch: I've fixed the machine token updating icons, would you mind checking the branch again? https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/538 [23:58] *grumble grumble grumble* [23:58] ok fine [23:58] :P