[04:58] <vbgunz> I've changed xorg.conf from driver nvidia to nouveau. I restart the DM and end up with a blinking underscore. I black listed nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and rebooted but nvidia is still in use. Nouveau should be installed at least the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package is but trying to use the open driver is impossible. What could I be missing?
[05:18] <pepee> this channel is dead
[05:18] <pepee> wth
[05:19] <pepee> hola m4v
[06:30] <deanomac> hi all. recently installed kubuntu on my laptop. am new to ubuntu and linux in general. I've tried fixes for an issue i'm having, namely that kubuntu hangs on shutdown and reboot. having to hard shutdown to do either. Has anyone else had this issue? Suggestions? Cuz my google fu is running dry lol
[06:34] <soee> deanomac: hi, i have no such issue on ma laptop
[06:35] <soee> deanomac: i suggest to stay a here on irc a bit longer and wait for some peope who can help more
[06:37] <deanomac> right on. it is a minor annoyance but i'm really trying to get this fixed to just meet a small goal. had a recent failure w/ an irc bot and my confidence is shaken. feels like i've been bucked off a horse. just looking to do little things. i appreciate it
[06:39] <pepee> deanomac, do you get any error messages?
[06:39] <pepee> anything useful in /var/log/syslog ?
[06:49] <Gatis> Hi, just installed Kubuntu. I like KDE :)
[06:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:51] <soee> Gatis: hi, great to hear that :)
[06:51] <soee> lordievader: good morning, are you in mood to help one user maybe ?
[06:52] <6A4AAMTVO> guys... is it possible to show date mark stamp in quassel irc next to timestamp?
[06:52] <lordievader> soee: Just woke up, but sure ;)
[06:52] <soee> lordievader: [08:30] <deanomac> hi all. recently installed kubuntu on my laptop. am new to ubuntu and linux in general. I've tried fixes for an issue i'm having, namely that kubuntu hangs on shutdown and reboot. having to hard shutdown to do either. Has anyone else had this issue? Suggestions? Cuz my google fu is running dry lol
[06:52] <Gatis> Oh got banned from ubuntu :)
[06:53] <soee> 6A4AAMTVO: sorry not using quassele :)
[06:53] <6A4AAMTVO> soee shame :(
[06:54] <soee> 6A4AAMTVO: did you heck configuration ?
[06:54] <6A4AAMTVO> soee i went into settings where it's showing HH:mm:ss and added YY:MM.dd before but it won't work that way
[06:55] <lordievader> deanomac: How do you shutdown?
[06:56] <soee> 6A4AAMTVO: did you tried ot restart quassele after changes ?
[06:57] <6A4AAMTVO> soee no... but i say immediately the timestamp changed starting with DD(it was showing these letters) and then the time afterwards
[06:58] <6A4AAMTVO> soee you'd guess it would work with a restart of quassle?
[06:58] <soee> 6A4AAMTVO: just a blind shoot, im not using it so cant tell it this will help
[07:01] <deanomac> lordievader: from kickoff mostly but have tried in Konsole w/ same results
[07:02] <lordievader> deanomac: Have you booted with the kernel parameter "noacpi"?
[07:02] <deanomac> pepee: no error messages
[07:02] <6A4AAMTVO> soee hold on a few
[07:03] <deanomac> i haven't. will give it a google real quick
[07:37] <mcstr> soee got it working!
[07:38] <mcstr> i just should have stayed with the cursor a second over the field tooltip is showing a nice tooltip
[07:38] <mcstr> [dd.MM.yyyy - hh:mm:ss:zzz]  leads to [09.09.2014 - 09:18:02:975]
[07:38] <soee> :)
[07:38] <mcstr> :)
[08:21] <aoa> dose anyone know why when i copy lare file from hdd to usb storage mouse is freezing and linux is lag ?
[08:22] <lordievader> aoa: Run "vmstat 1" it's likely that you're CPU shows a high number of io-wait and io-blocked programs.
[08:23] <aoa> i must run vmstat 1 when i cp file . right ?
[08:24] <lordievader> aoa: Open a separate terminal let the command run and then copy something large, yes.
[08:25] <aoa> ok
[08:31] <aoa> here output "vmstat 1" http://paste.ubuntu.com/8297857/
[08:31] <aoa> i have this problem on all dist of linux ubuntu , kubutnu ,fedora, xubuntu , suse
[08:32] <lordievader> At line 75 your file copy starts?
[08:33] <lordievader> aoa: The 'problem' you have is that the CPU is waiting for IO. In the meantime it does nothing else. It's just waiting.
[08:34] <aoa> is it normal ?
[08:35] <lordievader> aoa: Yes. What you could do is change the io priority of your shell before you start copying. The transfer rate will suffer but other programs will have a higher priority. Or get a faster disk, ofcourse.
[08:36] <lordievader> aoa: http://friedcpu.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/why-arent-you-using-ionice-yet/
[08:38] <aoa> you means is all user of linux around world have this issue when latge cp file to usb storge
[08:38] <hateball> What filesystem does the external drive use
[08:39] <lordievader> aoa: This depends on a lot of factors. But throw in a slow disk and yes you'd likely have a problem.
[08:49] <aoa> hateball: file system is ntfs or fat32
[09:02] <aoa> i read this link http://friedcpu.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/why-arent-you-using-ionice-yet/ but my english is not good , i can't  good understanding  this article ,Apparently on article say temporary way for fix this problem , i don't want any time cp large file search for id proses and run command . i need Permanent way
[09:08] <hateball> aoa: if it's ntfs and fuse-mounted it tends to be not-fast
[09:10] <lordievader> And it is likely going over usb2.
[09:11] <aoa> i test usb2 and usb3 , problem is on all
[09:12] <aoa> i read somewhere change Linux I/O Scheduler maybe help .
[09:13] <yofel> it might, ubuntu defaults to 'deadline' - which is really for servers - so changing it to CFQ might help. But you would have to set that per device or add an udev rule
[09:14] <yofel> the setting is in /sys/block/<device>/queue/scheduler
[09:14] <lordievader> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-io-scheduler-for-harddisk/
[09:17] <aoa> i test cfq and noop . but problem still here . why linux can not cp lage file same other OS , if this is bug why doesn't fix .
[09:19] <aoa> when i cp file for windows friends,they see freezing and lag , they Mock me .
[09:21] <lordievader> Windows has similar problems with heavy io load.
[09:21] <lordievader> Besides to 'fix' this is very difficult. The problem is that IO is slow and a CPU is fast.
[09:22] <lordievader> Thank diety that we have RAM and cache memory.
[09:23] <aoa> i test same file cp to same usb storage on widows and linux , windows haven't any problem to cp , but linux ( all distu ) have same problem freezing and lag
[09:25] <hateball> aoa: if you create a partition that has ext4 on that same disk, I'm willing to bet the results would be different
[09:25] <hateball> it's not that strange that a windows native filesystem would work better than it would on linux
[09:26] <lordievader> would work better on Windows*
[09:27] <aoa> so is this problem for different between filesystem ?
[09:28] <aoa> thanks Apparently there is not any answer for my problem . i don't use windows or any other OS . i love linux .
[09:30] <lordievader> aoa: So why use ntfs then?
[09:36] <aoa> lordievadar: because all computer user around me use windows . and user of linux is very little and sometimes i need transfer file with usb storage .
[09:38] <aoa> i remember thing maybe useful . i have PC in home i install linux on too . i haven't never this problem on PC , this is problem is on my lenovo laptop . why ?
[09:39] <aoa> my PC have same hardware 4 GB ram , and even older cpu .
[09:45] <aoa> watch video http://www.mediafire.com/download/n5127itkahkgp58/freezing.mkv
[09:57] <lordievader> Those are some very high io wait times.
[09:59] <aoa> is not normal , is it ?
[10:03] <lordievader> Not that exessive. But I must say I never copy something to an external ntfs drive. Might have to do with that ntfs part.
[10:03] <lordievader> aoa: Follow hateball's advice, make an ext4 partition and see if the problem persists.
[10:08] <aoa> i change filesystem external usb  to ext4 and cp file like before . in each there case noob , cfq , deadline there is not problem . cp is faster than before on ntfs partion . on ext4 i haven't any problem cp large file .
[10:08] <lordievader> hateball: ^
[10:53] <ZP> hi all
[10:54] <lordievader> o/
[10:56] <ZP> i have a question: i use the desktop in forder view, and sometimes the folders and icons are desappears.. i dont know why. sometimes the system starts in this way. if i change the destop type to for example normal desktop, than change back to folder view, my folders and my icons are come back. anyone knows a solution?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:35] <RCDeets> !samba
[13:46] <RCDeets> !share
[16:05] <Algot> Anybody else seeing a certificate error during today's upgrade (api.opendesktop.org)?
[16:06] <Algot> Security "update", sorry.
[16:12] <tsimpson> Algot: yes
[16:13] <Algot> tsimpson: Thanks. Best to wait for renewal?
[16:13] <tsimpson> yeah, there's not really anything else you can do
[16:14] <Algot> tsimpson: Thanks. Patience...patience...
[16:15] <reza> hi please help me, i am new to kubuntu, i have moved chrome to screen 2, how i can switch to screen 2 and get it back ?
[16:18] <reza> hi please help me, i am new to kubuntu, i have moved chrome to screen 2, how i can switch to screen 2 and get it back ?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> reza, open the cashew on the far right of the panel, add widgets type pager in the searchbar on the left double click on the pager and it be added to the panel
[16:18] <BluesKaj> will be added
[16:19] <BluesKaj> then you can switch desktops in the pager
[16:19] <sqph> trying to apply a security update, it says the server failed the authenticity check (api.opendesktop.org) the certificate has expired. will it get fixed?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> yes sqph it will be fine
[16:20] <sqph> so i should just wait until it no longer gives me the error?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> I would
[16:22] <sqph> yeah, i figured unless the security update is hyper critical, better wait for a certificate. thanks for confirming it will fix itself
[16:23] <BluesKaj> sqph, the devs ,or whoever's responsible, are probly a bit behind on the certificates
[16:23] <sqph> ok no worries
[16:23] <reza> thanks BluesKaj, that solves my problem
[16:24] <sqph> by the way, why is it that if I install synaptic or similar, i have more packages to chose from eventhough i'm pretty sure the repos are configured the same way
[16:25] <BluesKaj> more packages to choose from than what?
[16:26] <sqph> than in the standard software center in kubuntu, muon discoverer
[16:26] <sqph> *ver
[16:28] <sqph> like I'm considering installing synaptics just to get the youtube-dl package, but in the past i did that without having to add repos to synaptics
[16:28] <sqph> it just showed more
[16:29] <tsimpson> muon discover and the software centre just show a set of "applications", you can install the "muon" package to get a real package manager interface
[16:29] <BluesKaj> ok , dunno the answer to that sinceI use muon or apt-get rather than discover
[16:30] <tsimpson> (people often find the package manager a little daunting when they're just looking for a web browser or whatever)
[16:31] <BluesKaj> well, the muon discovery is also clunky and slow
[16:31] <sqph> ah, interesting. would the version be the same for a package that is already available on the "discover" software center.
[16:32] <BluesKaj> plain vanilla muon is a great package reference source
[16:32] <sqph> so muon would be similar to installing synaptic
[16:33] <tsimpson> they all install packages from the same place, and are frontends for apt
[16:33] <tsimpson> just different UIs
[16:33] <sqph> cool thanks
[16:34] <sqph> there really should be an option to enable all packages in the default software center
[16:34] <sqph> nevermind if they don't have an icon/screenshot
[16:35] <Naphatul> i'm getting an expired certificate warning when launching muon for freedesktop.org
[16:37] <tsimpson> Naphatul: it's a known issue, the certificate expired today and hasn't been updated yet
[16:37] <BluesKaj> Naphatul, just ignore that
[17:55] <btm05> I wrote a qt program but there's no mouse pointer? What's going on?
[17:56] <btm05> I mean, when I move my mouse into the program window, the mouse pointer disappears as soon as it passes the window frame.
[17:56] <btm05> I can click on the 'x' to close the window, but I can't see where I'm clicking in the GUI
[17:57] <btm05> The other thing is that when I do manage to hit a menu, the mouse disappears for as long as the dialog/ menu entry is open.
[19:28] <m_tadeu> I'm using kubuntu-debug-installer to search for debug packages...aldough it runs, it just quits after searching, and presents no results...how can I see the results?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> install a buggy OS :)
[19:38] <genii> m_tadeu: The packages are same name with -dbg appended
[19:40] <BluesKaj> sorry m_tadeu , didn't mean to be a smartass , but I couldn't resist :)
[19:59] <m_tadeu> BluesKaj: hehehee
[20:00] <m_tadeu> genii: then where is libharfbuzz0b-dbg?
[20:02] <genii> m_tadeu: Usually kubuntu-debug-installer is only run when dr konqi runs after an error has occurred, and it installes the dbg packages for whatever application just crashed from there. Although you can manually do like: /usr/bin/kubuntu-debug-installer /some/path/some-file  and it will use dpkg -S sort of logic to find what package that file belongs to and then see if there is a dbg package for it.
[20:02] <genii> !info libharfbuzz0b
[20:02] <genii> !info libharfbuzz0b-dbg
[20:03] <genii> m_tadeu: Since there exists no debig package, none was installed
[20:03] <genii> debug, rather
[20:03] <genii> work, afk
[20:04] <m_tadeu> genii: shouldn't there be a debug package for each package available?
[20:05] <m_tadeu> ahh...I need to use full paths....thanx genii
[20:07] <Geekasaurus> Greetings, kubuntupeople.  Can anyone offer clues about my Kubuntu 14.04 installation???? No desktop starts on the console after login.  It logins just fine, and I can choose Default, Gnome, Gnome Flashback Compbiz, Gnome Flashback Metacity, KDE Plasma Workspace, Ubuntu,  or Failsafe.  But regardless of which I choose, no desktop starts..no nautilus.
[20:07] <genii> m_tadeu: Ideally, but in practice, not. When the debug packages are unavailable, the usual way to debug is to install the ddeb repositories ( debug symbols repository)
[20:09] <genii> m_tadeu: So a file like /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs.list  with a line like: deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com trusty main restricted universe multiverse        ( in this case trusty is assumed)
[20:13] <Geekasaurus> I am looking in /var/log/syslog for errors.  This is probably the wrong log for this sort of thing.  Can anyone suggest a log I should examine?
[20:15] <genii> Geekasaurus: Try in home directory a file called .xsession-errors
[20:18] <Geekasaurus> Thanks Genii.  There is an interesting error here:
[20:18] <Geekasaurus> init: Failed to obtain gnome-session instance: Unknown parameter: XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP init: Disconnected from notified D-Bus bus init: xsession-init main process (2328) killed by TERM signal init: hud main process (2330) terminated with status 1
[20:19] <Geekasaurus> It looks like gnome-session failed because of an unknown parameter.  Let me Google that.
[20:20] <BluesKaj> Geekasaurus, how many desktops do you have installed ?
[20:20] <genii> Geekasaurus: Might also want to do: ls -lR ~/ | grep root       ...and see if something there important belongs to root instead of to the user whose dir it is
[20:23] <Jef91> Howdy folks - how do I configure virtual work spaces in kde?
[20:33] <Geekasaurus> Genii--there were some files owned by root in that part of the directory tree, but they are gone now, and the problem persists.  I have to reboot it to get it back to the login prompt.
[20:33] <Geekasaurus> Fortunately I can get into the system with Putty.  GAWD but I love Putty
[20:34] <Geekasaurus> I now have a happy login screen with a blue background.  I think it is the plasma wallpaper.  Does this have anything to do with it?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> Geekasaurus, yes most likely
[20:35] <m_tadeu> how can I run memtest86? it's not in the grub menu anymore
[20:40] <Jef91> Can I customize the hotkey for calling the run command prompt in kde?
[20:40] <genii> m_tadeu: Install package memtest86+ , it should add itself to the boot menu after
[20:45] <m_tadeu> genii: it didn't...I have "Advanced options" and "System setup"...advanced options has the several installed kernels and "System setup" displayed the message "error: can't find command 'fwsetup'"
[21:06] <m_tadeu> bahh reconfiguring the package solved the problem
[21:07] <m_tadeu> another question...my lighdm is currentely using ubuntu style....how do I change it to kdm style?
[21:11] <genii> m_tadeu: install lightdm-kde-greeter   should do it
[21:20] <m_tadeu> genii: thx
[21:57] <skinux> I just tried launching KTimeTracker's Help->Contents via menu. Documentation software launched, however, it shows a notice page saying that content cannot be found. How do I fix this?
[22:36] <Jef91> Can I customize the hotkey for calling the run command prompt in kde?
[23:23] <Jef91> So - my laptop backlight adjusts properly when I use the slider under the battery widget, but the function brightness up/down keys do not work. Any idea how I can get the function keys to work as well?
[23:29] <Geekasaurus> Greetings Kubuntuers........
[23:29] <Jef91> nvm my system updates just finished and things are working now :)
[23:33] <Geekasaurus> I am glad my computer reboots quickly....I'm doing it a lot today