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[11:05] <mgedmin> I've noticed that if I kill gnome-shell in 14.04 (+ gnome3 ppa) it won't get restarted
[11:05] <mgedmin> is it just me?  bug somewhere?  something to do with upstart user sessions?
[11:09] <darkxst> mgedmin, you should just kil gnome-shell!
[11:09] <darkxst> shouldn't even
[11:10] <mgedmin> what do I do if it freezes (because of a buggy extension, I assume)?
[11:11] <darkxst> its a little tricky but basically,
[11:11] <darkxst> kill gnome-shell
[11:11] <darkxst> export DISPLAY=:0
[11:11] <darkxst> metacity --replace
[11:11] <darkxst> then back to X and gnome-shell --replace in a terminal
[11:11] <mgedmin> ooh, nice trick
[11:12] <darkxst> mgedmin, used to be much simpler until they closed up the security hole!
[11:12] <mgedmin> assuming I've got a terminal open (which I usually do) -- preserves all the dbus environment variables etc
[11:12] <darkxst> mgedmin, no it doesnt
[11:12] <darkxst> you can set them with http://pastebin.com/WqvM4Fkb
[11:13] <darkxst> but if gnome is locked, you can't run shell from the terminal, since it can't connect to gdm to verify all
[11:15] <darkxst> (metacity will run without dbus etc though)
[11:16] <mgedmin> and what happened to gnome-session respawning gnome-shell if it crashed?
[11:17] <darkxst> mgedmin, it does
[11:17] <darkxst> but sometime gnome-shell dead-locks
[11:17] <darkxst> rather than actually crashes
[11:17] <mgedmin> perhaps pkill -SEGV gnome-shell would convince gnome-session that it crashed?
[11:18] <darkxst> maybe, not tried that
[11:18] <mgedmin> fair enough
[11:18] <mgedmin> meanwhile I turned off all the extensions again
[11:19] <mgedmin> I'm not very happy with the decision to run extension javascript code in the main compositor process, but I suppose splitting it out would be complicated
[11:20] <darkxst> that is a limtation of gjs not being multi-threaded
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[17:16] <brontos> Hey all, is there a reason the online accounts is not working for google?
[17:22] <brontos> Are there any references on how to fix the online accounts for google?
[17:29] <hashem> brontos, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756959 maybe
[17:29] <ubot5> Debian bug 756959 in evolution-data-server "gnome-online-accounts: Can't open Google calendars" [Normal,Fixed]
[17:32] <brontos> Thanks hashem!
[17:32] <brontos> That seemed to work
[17:32] <hashem> :)
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[20:51] <Noskcaj> darkxst, looks like everything supports upower 0.99 now, should we try and get it in?
[22:36] <darkxst> Noskcaj, yes, we need to start preparing FFe's gnome-desktop should be unblocked this week
[22:39] <darkxst> not sure which we should do first, but either way need to get pushing!