[18:00] <belkinsa> #startingmeeting September 2014 Meeting
[18:00] <belkinsa> Who is all here for the September 2014 Ubuntu Women meeting?
[18:00] <Mikaela> o/
[18:00] <belkinsa> Agenda: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/September2014/Agenda
[18:01] <sleeves> I want to attend but I am bran new
[18:01] <pleia2> o/
[18:01] <belkinsa> Go ahead, anyone is welcome.
[18:01] <pleia2> sleeves: welcome :)
[18:02] <sleeves> ty
[18:02] <belkinsa> Should we have a introduction topic since sleeves is new?
[18:02] <pleia2> we often have new people :) typically just dive in
[18:02] <pleia2> sleeves: please ask questions if you have any!
[18:02] <belkinsa> Ah, right.  Duh.
[18:02] <sleeves> okay
[18:02] <belkinsa> #topic Blueprint for Utopic cycle
[18:03] <dolasilla> o/
[18:03] <belkinsa> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1406-ubuntu-women
[18:03] <pleia2> no updates from me :\ if anyone wants my tasks, they are welcome to them
[18:03] <belkinsa> I made the quiz stuff open for everyone to test out and that's our next topic in this meeting.  As for my other one, that's my next one that I will work on.
[18:03] <belkinsa> pleia2, what about your items?
[18:03] <pleia2> I've been busier than I anticipated this cycle
[18:04] <belkinsa> Oh, I see.  I missed what you said while I was typing.
[18:04] <sleeves> I tested the quiz on the blog, I can provide feedback somewhere if wanted
[18:04] <pleia2> sleeves: oh great, thank you
[18:04] <belkinsa> Sure, sleeves, but after this topic is finished.
[18:05] <belkinsa> pleia2, should I make a call on volunteers to take your items on the list?
[18:05] <pleia2> I can probably bump harvest bug review up in my queue, but if someone else wants to take the BestPractices review that'd be great
[18:05] <belkinsa> I might take in but I think I have too many projects.
[18:06] <pleia2> belkinsa: let's try to hand off BestPractices first, give me a nudge in aweek if I haven't sorted out Harvest stuff and we'll try to give that away too :)
[18:06] <belkinsa> Alright, that will do.
[18:06] <belkinsa> #action belkinsa Ask the Mailing-List if someone can do the BestPractices item from the blueprint
[18:07] <belkinsa> Any other comments on this item?
[18:07] <belkinsa> Er, topic.
[18:08] <belkinsa> Okay, moving on.
[18:08] <belkinsa> #topic Orientation quiz dicussion
[18:08] <belkinsa> sleeves, want to give your feedback now?
[18:08] <sleeves> sure.
[18:09]  * belkinsa gives the mic to sleeves
[18:09] <sleeves> I have never contributed and thought about it - so I think it's an amazing idea
[18:09] <sleeves> However I'm a dev by trade and I found the options really limited, I went through a couple times and most got docs
[18:10] <sleeves> and I felt a bit discouraged
[18:10] <sleeves> but then I dug up harvest and felt better
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[18:10] <belkinsa> Alright, we need more options for developers.
[18:11] <dolasilla> belkinsa, o/
[18:11] <dolasilla> I would like to suggest to start by redefining the matrix of choices. I linked in the mailing list the current version
[18:11] <belkinsa> o/ dolasilla
[18:11] <dolasilla> but someone already mentioned in the mailing list the fact the options are limited
[18:11] <belkinsa> Let me find that
[18:12] <dolasilla> so I would say, first thing: let's re-draw the matrix of choices/combinations, and define to where they could lead
[18:12] <dolasilla> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjC0t8MdWzk6dDRBRGVGcGdtWTJpbjYyYmgyX1RLREE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
[18:12] <dolasilla> (above the link to the matrix I was talking about)
[18:13] <belkinsa> Okay, and who is willing to do this?  This can be also be called via the ML.
[18:13] <belkinsa> dolasilla, thanks for the link.
[18:13] <dolasilla> a couple of people offered there
[18:13] <belkinsa> Who are those two?  Sorry, I wasn't really following the list that well.
[18:14] <dolasilla> I won't have much time in the coming weeks, I can help but I would prefer someone else to take the lead on this
[18:14] <dolasilla> (let me check the thread)
[18:15] <dolasilla> Anna Baas and A. Mani
[18:15] <belkinsa> Oh, sleeves, we are also in #ubuntu-women if you wan to chat outside meetings.
[18:15] <dolasilla> and then also diego turcios offered some development help
[18:16] <belkinsa> Ah.
[18:16] <sleeves> okay thanks. Also let me know where I can jump in, I'd like to help with stuff.
[18:16] <belkinsa> sleeves, we will.
[18:16] <belkinsa> dolasilla, okay, then I should e-mail them to see if one can take the lead?  Or you if you want?
[18:17] <dolasilla> as you want, I can re-take the  thread, and suggest to start, maybe...I saw pleia2 already sent an email about the code being now available on launchpad
[18:17] <dolasilla> I can add something after that email
[18:18] <belkinsa> Sure, if you don't mind.
[18:18] <dolasilla> oki
[18:18] <belkinsa> #action dolasilla E-mail the three about taking the lead on the project
[18:19] <belkinsa> Before I close this topic, I was thinking about writing an update blog post about the quiz and an article for Ubuntu Full Circle Mag.
[18:19] <belkinsa> Would this help us?
[18:21] <dolasilla> well now looks like there are a couple of volounteers, maybe we could keep the "full circle magazine bonus" to advertise the quiz, once we have done a first review with the comments collected so far?
[18:21] <pleia2> dolasilla: +1
[18:21] <pleia2> next FCM article is a month off, so maybe by that time we'll have something :)
[18:23] <belkinsa> Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  We have projects and if we have them going we could have articles for them to say that we are active.
[18:25] <belkinsa> #action Write an article and a blog post on the updates for the Quiz
[18:26] <belkinsa> Okay, are we ready to move on?
[18:26] <dolasilla> +1
[18:27] <belkinsa> #topic http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ProjectHarvest
[18:27] <belkinsa> #link http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ProjectHarvest
[18:27] <belkinsa> Er
[18:27] <belkinsa> #topic ProjectHarvest Updates
[18:28] <belkinsa> As we all know that we are in phase two of the project which is getting more developers for it but I would like know if work has started on Harvest.
[18:28] <pleia2> as I mentioned earlier, I still have bug wrangling to do so we can point our developers at things to work on
[18:29] <belkinsa> Ah, right, I forgot.
[18:30] <belkinsa> I think sleeves said that they want to get into developing it.  Is that right?
[18:30] <sleeves> yeah I'd be down. I don't know much about it though.
[18:31] <sleeves> other than what's on the topic page
[18:31] <belkinsa> Main page: http://harvest.ubuntu.com/
[18:31] <belkinsa> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/harvest/+bugs
[18:31] <pleia2> it's a django app, wiki here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Harvest
[18:31] <pleia2> so Python
[18:32] <pleia2> wiki is pretty outdated, turns out :)
[18:32] <sleeves> haha k i can do python & django
[18:33] <pleia2> yay \o/
[18:33] <belkinsa> \o/
[18:33] <sleeves> I'll start poking around
[18:33] <dolasilla> :)
[18:33] <belkinsa> sleeves, oh, one more thing.  Make sure you join the Ubuntu Women mailing-list as we use that to talk about things outside the meetings.
[18:34] <sleeves> yep, I'm on it. joined last week.
[18:34] <belkinsa> Okay.
[18:34] <belkinsa> You are welcome to introduce yourself also.
[18:34] <belkinsa> ;)
[18:35] <belkinsa> So, going back on the topic, is there anything else to to be said about ProjectHarvest?
[18:35] <sleeves> haha okay. will do.
[18:38] <belkinsa> Moving on in a minute.
[18:39] <sleeves> I have to go. But I will introduce myself on the mailing list later. :) bye
[18:39] <belkinsa> See ya
[18:39] <belkinsa> #topic Any Other Business (AOB)
[18:39] <belkinsa> Do we have any?
[18:40]  * pleia2 has nothing
[18:40] <pleia2> thanks for chairing :)
[18:40] <Mikaela> Does the KiwiIRC suggestion count?
[18:40] <belkinsa> Mikaela, sure.
[18:40] <belkinsa> pleia2, not a problem.
[18:41] <belkinsa> pleia2, is that okay if Mikaela brings her suggestion up?
[18:41] <pleia2> of course
[18:41]  * belkinsa gives the mic to Mikaela
[18:41] <Mikaela> 2014-09-09 21:06:41+0300 < Mikaela> Suggestion to http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/September2014/Agenda / other meeting pages if anyone can edit it and knows how to do it:
[18:41] <Mikaela> 2014-09-09 21:06:41+0300 < Mikaela> Replace webchat link <http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-women-project> with <https://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.net:+6697/#ubuntu-women-project> as KiwiIRC doesn't have captcha and looks less scary to new people.
[18:41] <Mikaela> 2014-09-09 21:06:41+0300 < Mikaela> It could also be <https://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.net:+6697/#ubuntu-women,#ubuntu-women-project> to join both channels.
[18:42] <belkinsa> And I said this: [14:07] <belkinsa> That would be nice but I think it doesn't work on a MoinMoin wiki
[18:42] <pleia2> isn't it just a link?
[18:42] <belkinsa> But the concern that was brought was the spammers.
[18:42] <pleia2> and does kiwiirc have ads? (mibbit does, some of which can be a bit rude)
[18:42] <Mikaela> There was also comment about Captchalessness being bad thinking about spam, but I think KiwiIRC has other anti-spam mechanism and I haven't seen any spam from them yet other than random unasked PMs which you only get by being at #kiwiirc.
[18:42] <belkinsa> Oh, I can read.
[18:42] <Mikaela> I haven't noticed any ads.
[18:43] <pleia2> it's open source, so that's nice :)
[18:43] <pleia2> if it's ad-free, seems fine to me
[18:43] <belkinsa> And the interface is modern looking.
[18:44]  * pleia2 nods
[18:44] <belkinsa> I think we could have a vote on the Mailing list for this suggestion, if possible,
[18:44] <Mikaela> For comparsion, qwebirc: https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-women-project
[18:47] <belkinsa> Mikaela, want to bring this up on the list?
[18:48] <Mikaela> I am too scared of mailing lists, but it would be nice if someone else could do it.
[18:48] <belkinsa> Why?
[18:48] <belkinsa> Ours is very quiet.
[18:48] <pleia2> Mikaela: I can bring it up (and thanks for being open about that, it's fine)
[18:48] <Mikaela> They just are scary when compared to something like IRC.
[18:49] <Mikaela> :)
[18:49] <dolasilla> Mikaela, go and don't be scared, for sure at the very least that irc web client has my vote!
[18:49] <belkinsa> It has mine too, but the mailing-list is not scary at all.
[18:49] <belkinsa> We are all friendly folks.
[18:51] <belkinsa> #action Mikaela or belkinsa or pleia2 or dolasilla E-mail the mailing about the IRC client suggestion
[18:52] <belkinsa> Any other comments/questions?
[18:53] <Mikaela> I don't have any, but I don't know about others.
[18:53] <belkinsa> If not, thank you all for coming to the meeting. It was a pleasure to chair this.
[18:54] <dolasilla> thanks a lot belkinsa for chairing!
[18:54] <belkinsa> pleia2, I will get everything ready for the next meeting.
[18:54] <pleia2> great, give me a nudge if you need any help
[18:54] <belkinsa> I will.
[18:54] <dolasilla> need to leave, bye!
[18:54] <belkinsa> Ending it now...
[18:55] <belkinsa> #endmeeting