[05:53] <Kilos> morning Squirm  StonedAlchemist  Trixar_za  Xethron  and others
[05:53] <StonedAlchemist> Morning kilos
[05:53] <StonedAlchemist> How are you?
[05:54] <Kilos> not too bad ty and you?
[05:54] <Kilos> just an unhappy head
[05:54] <StonedAlchemist> Eh not bad I suppose.
[05:56] <Trixar_za> Morning Kilos
[06:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:38] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[07:08] <Kilos> lo nuvolari_  waar is jy nou
[07:09] <nuvolari_> ek is in die kaap oom
[07:09] <nuvolari_> :P
[07:10] <Kilos> mooi
[07:10] <nuvolari> wel, by die werk
[07:10] <Kilos> ek wens jou alle voorspoed me die nuwe werk seun
[07:28] <inetpro> goeie more
[07:28] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[07:32] <bduk> More almal
[07:32] <Kilos> hi bduk  
[07:53] <nuvolari> dankie oom Kilos 
[07:53] <Kilos> eks bly jy kan darem irc doen
[07:54] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[08:09] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:45] <Kilos> hi Cantide  
[08:46] <Cantide> hello :p
[08:46] <Cantide> dinner time here..
[08:46] <Cantide> soooooooooooooooooo hungry
[08:46] <Cantide> i need to cook some South African food... if only i had the ingredients >_<
[08:46] <Cantide> what are you up to, oom Kilos ?
[08:46] <Kilos> dont they have mealie meal
[08:46] <Cantide> probably..
[08:47] <Cantide> i need to go shopping i think .-.
[08:47] <Kilos> make pap and fry onions and tomato for gravy
[08:47] <Cantide> right now i'm just cooking rice and some processed stew
[08:47] <Kilos> im just parking off and doing some gardening in between
[08:48] <Cantide> :)
[08:48] <Cantide> nice
[08:48] <Cantide> i wish i had a garden ._.
[08:48] <Kilos> rice is good if you are chinese but za peeps need pap as well
[08:50] <Cantide> lol
[08:51] <Cantide> i like rice :)
[08:51] <Cantide> yeah, pap would be good
[08:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> make biltong
[08:51] <Cantide> eh...
[08:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> and potjie
[08:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmmmmmm potjie
[08:51] <Cantide> those are a bit tough in my tiny apartment
[08:51] <Cantide> can't make fire anywhere ._.
[08:51] <bduk> Dont you peeps got work or something to do
[08:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> you make biltong using fire? :-o
[08:52] <Cantide> lol
[08:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> and you can make potjie on gas
[08:52] <Cantide> i meant for the potjie
[08:52] <Cantide> eww....
[08:52] <Cantide> no work here - 5 day weekend :)
[08:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> normally unforgivable but we can allow it in emergencies
[08:53] <Cantide> hmm
[08:53] <Cantide> i can buy biltong - much easier
[08:53] <Cantide> can't get a pot or make fire.. .so potjie .____.
[08:53] <Cantide> brb, rice is done
[09:00] <inetpro> potjie? Eish! 
[09:00]  * inetpro very hungry now
[09:01]  * Cantide is eating now
[09:06] <Kilos> hehe
[09:07] <Kilos> Cantide  you can make potjie in a slow cooker as well
[09:08] <Kilos> they must have slow cookers there
[09:08] <Cantide> yeah...
[09:08] <Cantide> i'd have to buy one
[09:08] <Cantide> ,_,
[09:08] <Kilos> they cant cost too much there
[09:08] <Kilos> very handy machine that, start it just before bed and eat lunchtime
[09:09] <Kilos> and supper and next day
[09:16] <Cantide> yeah...
[09:16] <Cantide> or make it so i can control it from my phone
[09:16] <Cantide> then i can just start cooking at the right time, no matter where i am
[09:21] <Kilos> lol
[09:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> you laugh, that isn't as far-fetched as you think
[09:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> should prove pretty simple using a few basic arduino bits
[09:40] <Cantide> yup
[09:40] <Cantide> i've been playing with arduino lately
[09:40] <Cantide> got two unos lying around now
[09:44] <charl> morning all
[09:44] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:44]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:47] <Cantide> evening~
[09:48] <charl> hi Cantide 
[09:48] <Cantide> '-'/
[09:48] <charl> how are you doing
[09:48] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:48] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:48] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[09:50] <Kilos> hi charl  
[09:52] <Cantide> charl, pretty good - i have a 5 day weekend :D
[09:52] <Cantide> what about you?
[09:53] <Kilos> hi Joe_knock  
[09:57] <charl> Cantide: nice ! i'm also doing well
[09:59] <Cantide> :)
[10:22] <Joe_knock> charl you're a long way from ZA. which part of Europe are you in?
[10:38] <charl> Joe_knock: NL
[10:38] <Joe_knock> cool.
[10:39] <charl> nothing is "a long way" on the internet though :P
[10:39] <charl> it's about 100ms away :P
[10:39] <Cantide> :p
[11:03] <Kilos> hi somaunn  
[11:03] <Kilos> i go eat now
[11:03] <somaunn> hello Guys
[11:05] <somaunn> Whoa good Kilos 
[11:05] <somaunn> i have a question here
[11:05] <somaunn> everytime i browse the web for some reason i get redirected to gen.xyz
[11:05] <somaunn> what does it mean ?
[11:06] <somaunn> i didn't experienced that with fedora
[11:06] <somaunn> but now Ubuntu is giving that ***** stuff which i can't find the fix on google
[11:24] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:24] <Kilos> using firefox somaunn  ?
[11:26] <somaunn> yes, Kilos 
[11:26] <Kilos> is that the only browser you have installed
[11:27] <Kilos> methinks try another browser and if it also does it then its not the fox thats corrupt
[11:27] <Kilos> Maaz  google opera browser for ubuntu
[11:27] <Maaz> Kilos: "OperaBrowser - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser :: "Download Opera browser - Opera Software" http://www.opera.com/download :: "Opera Web Browser | Faster & safer | Download the new Internet ..." http://www.opera.com/download/linux :: "Install Opera Web browser in Ubuntu
[11:27] <Maaz> 13.04/12.10/12.04/11.10/Linux ..." http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-opera-web-browser-in-ubuntu.html ::…
[11:33] <somaunn> opera ??? i don't really like opera 
[11:33] <somaunn> i'm considering using chrome even if i prefer firefox
[11:33] <somaunn> the integrated ubuntu browser doesn't seems to work
[11:34] <Kilos> try epipany then
[11:34] <Kilos> it is alot like the fox if i remember right
[11:34] <Kilos> epiphany
[11:34] <Kilos> im not a chrome fan 
[11:35] <Joe_knock> Nobody should use chrome. Chromium is the "safer" option.
[11:35] <Joe_knock> Which ubuntu are you using? somaunn 
[11:35] <somaunn> epiphany ??? it's gnome web browser right ?
[11:35] <Kilos> epiphany should be in the repos
[11:36] <somaunn> hi Joe_knock thank you will go for chromium
[11:36] <somaunn> Joe_knock, ubuntu 14.04
[11:36] <Joe_knock> I have some other browser installed when chromium died on me. It's lightweight.
[11:36] <Kilos> apt-get install epiphany
[11:36] <Joe_knock> What exactly is happening when you say "I am being redirected to gen.xyz"?
[11:37] <Kilos> sorry apt-get install epiphany-browser
[11:38] <Kilos> otherwise you get epiphany game
[11:38] <Kilos> hehe
[11:39] <somaunn> case: trying to access a link from google.com search result by right clicking > open in a tab. the page loading work starts then endsup showing http://gen.xyz...... with advert of web hosting to GoDaddy
[11:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> sounds like a dodgy browser extension
[11:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> or plugin or addon or whatever firefox calls it
[11:44] <Joe_knock> Yeah, sounds like something is sitting in between and turning your browser into an ad bot.
[11:45] <Joe_knock> The technique for this is to normally go through each addon and disable it whilst keeping the others active.
[12:00] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:12] <Kilos> wb somaunn  is it sorted?
[12:13] <Joe_knock> wb
[12:15] <somaunn> not really
[12:15] <Kilos> oi
[12:16] <somaunn> i think i have a problem with my 3G by the same way
[12:16] <somaunn> what CLI tool can i use to do QoS measurement of my internet connection ?
[12:17] <Kilos> what is QoS
[12:18] <somaunn> i'm also fighting with my ISP to get better signal but i have to prove things when i say " your internet connection is problematic "
[12:18] <somaunn> QoS= quality of service
[12:18] <Kilos> run ping command and mtr
[12:18] <Kilos> lemme find them
[12:19] <Kilos> i also run iftop all the time
[12:19] <somaunn> iftop ?
[12:19] <Kilos> apt-get install iftop
[12:19] <Kilos> then in cli you do sudo iftop
[12:20] <somaunn> okay doing it now
[12:21] <inetpro> hmm....
[12:21] <somaunn> tell me what kind of details does iftop gives ?
[12:21] <Kilos> dont hmm... man tell him what to use
[12:21] <inetpro> Pidgin Unity Integration Returns in Ubuntu 14.10 
[12:22] <somaunn> Kilos, i've launched iftop but it looks like an interface monitoring tool
[12:22] <Kilos> iftop shows all data in and out\
[12:22] <Kilos> amounts
[12:22] <Kilos> ya that thing
[12:24] <somaunn> i everytime use mtr which gives me couple of additional infos such as :packet loss, packet sent, average, best, worst
[12:24] <Kilos> somaunn  try mtr -i2 -s0 -n 8.8.8.8
[12:24] <Kilos> and here is a ping command
[12:24] <Kilos> time ping -i2 -s0 -c10 8.8.8.8
[12:24] <somaunn> but looking for something more accurate than mtr
[12:24] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:24] <inetpro> tcpdump
[12:26] <somaunn> inetpro, let me google about and come back here
[12:45] <somaunn> did someone here tried iperf
[12:50] <Kilos> oi i looked at the --help. you work it out then tell me
[12:52] <inetpro> somaunn: you trying to do network throughput tests
[12:55] <Joe_knock> seems like there's no love from SA ISPs these days.
[12:56] <somaunn> inetpro, yes u right
[12:56] <Kilos> Joe_knock  i like 8ta
[12:56] <Kilos> telcom
[12:56] <Kilos> telkom too
[12:56] <Joe_knock> 8ta is basically MTN.
[12:56] <Kilos> no man
[12:57] <Kilos> telkom mobile
[12:57] <inetpro> uh, I meant to put a '?' at the back... not saying anything
[12:57] <Kilos> mtn sucks here
[12:57] <somaunn> inetpro, but i also want to track bootleneck and problematic node (if possible)
[12:57] <inetpro> ai!
[12:58] <Kilos> Joe_knock  8ta rocks especially if you have a telkom d-link modem
[12:59] <Joe_knock> Kilos: 8ta runs mostly on MTNs network (their wireless parts)
[12:59] <Kilos> well mtn here is edge and i get full 3g
[13:01] <Kilos> i think telkom just has an arrangement with mtn to use their towers to put up telkom transceivers
[13:01] <somaunn> guys, talking about that gen.xyz stuff 
[13:01] <Kilos> yes somaunn  what did you find
[13:01] <somaunn> i've tried to access http://translate.google.com but guess what ?
[13:02] <somaunn> the browser displayed this : http://www.gen.xyz/availability-checker.php?src=translate.google
[13:02] <Kilos> you went to  time ping -i2 -s0 -c10 8.8.8.8
[13:02] <Kilos> ai!
[13:02] <Kilos> something in your fox is corrupt
[13:03] <somaunn> okay, how can i fix it then 
[13:03] <Kilos> did you deactivate all the plugins/addon things
[13:04] <somaunn> i'm even thinking about looking at DNS entries etc... other web browsers are not displaying that gen.xyz page but epiphany said "Ooops"
[13:04] <somaunn> this is my mtr result: http://slexy.org/view/s2TqR3Ymwi 
[13:04] <Kilos> lol
[13:04] <somaunn> can someone translate it for me please ?
[13:05] <Kilos> eish i see lotsa bad stuff
[13:06] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  comment?
[13:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> uh
[13:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> summary?
[13:07] <Kilos> you understand the mtr output
[13:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[13:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> is that mtr from the Mars rover?
[13:07] <Kilos> lol
[13:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> its pretty hideous
[13:08] <Kilos> somaunn  which mtr command did you use?
[13:08] <Kilos> he definitely wont do minetest online like that hey
[13:12] <somaunn> Kilos, mtr -i2 -s0 -n yahoo.fr
[13:12] <Kilos> lemme try it from here
[13:15] <Kilos> somaunn  http://slexy.org/view/s20xjoaAgc
[13:15] <Kilos> bit of a difference
[13:17] <somaunn> kilos, please try this one for me mtr -i2 -s0 -n syn73.com
[13:17] <Kilos> ok sec
[13:21] <Kilos> somaunn  http://slexy.org/view/s20toXjGnq
[13:22] <Kilos> try showing your 3g provider your mtr results and see what more they want
[13:24] <Kilos> and go past the peeps at the help desk and talk to a data technician
[13:25] <Kilos> or even better email their CEO
[13:33] <somaunn> Kilos, lol that's ... loooool
[13:33] <Kilos> what?
[13:33] <Kilos> hehe
[13:33] <Kilos> thats what i did here when mine was slow
[13:38] <somaunn> the you get results... good move
[13:50] <Kilos> somaunn  isnt there somewhere in firefox where you can disable redirects?
[13:51] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:51] <Kilos> that frightened him
[14:20] <Kilos> wb somaunn  
[14:27] <somaunn> thanks
[14:35] <Kilos> hi acherv  
[14:36] <acherv> hi kilos
[14:36] <Joe_knock> Even a slow connection wouldnt cause that ad thingy to pop up. This is strange behaviour for linux.
[14:37] <Joe_knock> unisa has a proxy? acherv 
[14:37] <Kilos> it a bug in the fox methinks
[14:37] <acherv> Joe_knock: help
[14:37] <acherv> Joe_knock: sorry yep
[14:37] <Joe_knock> link? acherv 
[14:59] <Kilos> what would one use for a domain name on a home server install?
[15:15] <Joe_knock> the regular ip address Kilos. Or localhost.
[15:17] <Cantide> good night!
[15:22] <Kilos> ty Joe_knock  
[15:22] <Kilos> no need for .anything
[15:24] <Kilos> eish now it wants a morror
[15:24] <Kilos> mirror
[15:25] <Kilos> and wont go past it
[15:25] <Kilos> grrr
[15:37] <somaunn> coming back in few hours
[15:46] <Kilos> i wonder if purging firefox will help somaun
[15:53] <Joe_knock> So I'm not the only axxess user on the internet :'D
[15:55] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[15:56] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos
[16:21] <lint_obscura> ...
[16:21] <Kilos> hi lint_obscura 
[16:22] <Kilos> oi
[16:22] <Kilos> i didnt even grrrrrrowl
[16:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:24] <Kilos> wb
[16:31] <Lionlkjklsajdlak> ...
[16:32] <Kilos> hehe
[16:32] <Kilos> someone got a bad connection or playing lekker
[16:33] <Kilos> or trying to spam us
[16:38] <Kilos> nuvolari, hoe was jou eerste dag seun?
[16:58] <Kilos> i go eat now
[16:58] <Kilos> Maaz, watch them
[16:58] <Maaz> OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you
[17:20] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:54] <Kilos> ai! sick net again
[18:25] <Kilos> grrrr
[18:27] <Kilos> inetpro  dont forget the topic updating please
[18:27] <Kilos> wb Joe_knock  
[18:28] <Joe_knock> Thanks. Freenode acting up tonight.
[18:31] <Kilos> oi
[18:31] <Kilos> what does (Max SendQ exceeded). mean
[18:33] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[18:35] <Kilos> they have a spammer messing around
[18:38] <Kilos> i wonder why its just affecting you Joe_knock  
[18:38] <Joe_knock> wont be the first time.
[18:55] <Kilos> Joe_knock     cant you change hosts or something
[18:55] <Kilos> or servers or whateva they call them things
[18:55] <Joe_knock> Freenode hosts? Kilos
[18:56] <Kilos> ya
[18:56] <Joe_knock> I did try before, but freenode doesnt like south africa.
[18:56] <Kilos> you must be on one thats beeing bombed
[18:57] <Kilos> what host are you on?
[18:57] <Kilos> its only you getting bombed
[18:57] <Kilos> oi
[18:58] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[19:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[19:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:52] <Joe_knock> Kilos: fixed