[00:01] <thc> I figured out my problem it was faulty DVD writer so I burn it right just the DVD reader couldn't read it
[00:02] <thc> Changed the writer now it installing :-)
[00:03] <thc> Thought I would share
[00:03] <Bashing-om> thc: :) where there are solutions, there are no problems .
[00:04] <thc> True
[00:04] <thc> But I been working on it for week now
[00:05] <Bashing-om> thc: Ya feel good now !
[00:06] <thc> Definitely now I can try out some when I can :-)
[00:07] <thc> I was windows person but I like Linux better
[00:08] <codygman_> the program pavucontrol stopped working all of a sudden by hanging on "Establishing connection with pulseaudio" please wait. I opened it in the terminal and see the error "Couldn't connect to accessibility bus". I'm not sure what's changed with my system besides installing hal for amazon instant streaming.
[00:08] <hyperpupp> I like linux but little things can stump me for days on end
[00:08] <Basketball> eeee, you here
[00:09] <hyperpupp> and then it turns out its something simple I missed
[00:09] <thc> I keep at it until its fix
[00:10] <hyperpupp> Ive been doing that.  still stressfull though
[00:12] <netlar> Hi all, I want to prevent my conky widget from disappearing from desktop when I use show desktop.  How can I do that?
[00:14] <Bashing-om>                                      
[00:18] <hyperpupp> Hello can anyone help me.  I set up vsftpd and I can access it from local computers no problems but when I try to use it remotely I get error 530 login incorrect.  Has anyone run into this ?
[00:20] <vemacs> I have a weird problem wih Ubuntu server
[00:20] <vemacs> I currently have a RAID1 setup mounted to /dev/md1
[00:20] <vemacs> here's my parted output: http://i.imgur.com/kga8KvW.png
[00:20] <vemacs> I want to resize it to the available free space
[00:21] <vemacs> when I try resize2fs, I get http://i.imgur.com/ABhCm1u.png
[00:21] <vemacs> but mdadm outputs the RAID array as the right size
[00:21] <vemacs> I just can't resize it
[00:21] <vemacs> Needs to be online because no physical access or recovery :P
[00:21] <netlar> I change the config file to own_window_type override and that does not work
[00:22] <netlar> Do I need to restart something first?
[00:25] <codygman_> Does anyone know why alsa wouldn't have permission to connect to pulse?
[00:25] <Obiwantje> would this chan be OK to ask some basic Bacula Backup System questions?
[00:26] <szymon> q
[00:31] <netlar> Everyting I try does not work
[00:37] <netlar> Well that is something minor anyway
[00:39] <netlar> Just seems like such a simple fix, but everything I have read about making this work, does NOT work
[00:40] <netlar> Well later guys
[00:42] <Mussolini> hi everybody
[00:43] <tank> #ubuntu
[00:45] <Archmstr> hi, why not ona talks?
[00:46] <Archmstr> hi dudes!
[00:46] <Archmstr> omg
[00:46] <pocz123> Hi!
[00:46] <Archmstr> hi!
[00:46] <Archmstr> are you buzy?
[00:46] <somsip> !ask | Archmstr
[00:47] <Archmstr> mm!
[00:47] <Archmstr> have you try archlinux?
[00:47] <somsip> Archmstr: this is the ubuntu support channel. Talk about Arch linux is off topic
[00:47] <Archmstr> yes men! this is my cuestion!
[00:48] <Archmstr> have you try archlinux?
[00:48] <somsip> Archmstr: then it's off topic and does not belong here. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or the #archlinux channel
[00:48] <Archmstr> someone?
[00:48] <Archmstr> mm! ok
[00:48] <Archmstr> thx!
[00:48] <bish0p_> I updated to 14.04 today, and now Unity shows no taskbars when I boot. I can restart lightdm and that will bring them up, but the next time I turn my computer on they're gone again.
[00:49] <Archmstr> good look everyone!
[00:49] <bish0p_> Do I have to revert to my previous version of Ubuntu?
[00:50] <shout-user38> https://chaturbate.com/dawnwillow/  cheap tokens for everyone :3
[00:50] <somsip> bish0p_: I know it's difficult/impossible to revert version upgrades but know nothing about unity so can't help further
[00:50] <somsip> shout-user38: take the spam elsewhere. It's not welcome here
[00:51] <bish0p_> somsip, oh man, really? that sucks. Might end up reinstalling ubuntu then, if I can't get this fixed.
[00:52] <somsip> bish0p_: if it's an easy option, go for it. Especially if you upgraded previously which *can* be problematic but is usually okay for most users. But on the unity front, keep asking now and then as there may be a simple fix I don't know about
[00:52] <cimmm1> TJ- we're on our way to another one... And I guess for anyone: Reinstalled and nouveau got me triple-head with 2 on dgpu and 1 on igpu, installed nvidia-331 and igpu monitor is at the logo + 5 bubbles full (last image before start completes). Xorg.0.log showing no errors AND detects both dgpu+igpu and each of the monitors. How do I get that third one (igpu) up?
[00:53] <st0_> bish0p after update .. apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop, apt-get install unity
[00:54] <bish0p_> st0_, can I do that from the terminal, or do I need to TTY
[00:54] <st0_> bish0p on terminal
[00:54] <bish0p_> st0_, alright, I'll try that.
[00:56] <bish0p_> St0_, it says unity is already installed
[00:57] <pocz123> Hi! How can I block the fork bomb on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:57] <pocz123> I mean :(){ :|:& };:
[00:59] <st0_> bish0p_: renstall ubuntu-desktop finished?
[00:59] <bish0p_> yep!
[00:59] <DaZ> pocz123: i'd say ulimit
[00:59] <st0_> bish0p_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity <- reinstall the unity
[01:00] <bish0p_> st0_, alright
[01:00] <Mussolini> How a execute one script just with the name ?
[01:01] <somsip> Mussolini: ./script_name
[01:01] <Mussolini> how can i execute one script just with the name ?
[01:01] <bish0p_> st0_, done. restart?
[01:01] <Mussolini> somsip: without "./"
[01:01] <Mussolini> just the name
[01:02] <somsip> Mussolini: you need a path unless the script is in $PATH
[01:03] <pocz123> DaZ: Thanks. I will read about ulimit.
[01:05] <st0_> bish0p_: yep
[01:05] <Mussolini> somsip: for example, i created one script withe the name "test" on /home/user, and i wanna the script execute, when a write just "test"
[01:06] <Mussolini> with*
[01:07] <spearhead> Mussolini, it is more common to put the scripts you write in a /home/user/bin directory but wherever you have the script you need to add that directory to your $PATH variable
[01:07] <spearhead> !path | Mussolini
[01:08] <Mussolini> spearhead: tk's a lot
[01:08] <spearhead> Mussolini, np
[01:09] <bish0p_> st0_, nothing changed :\
[01:11] <cimmm1> I just reinstalled after having nvidia driver issues, Nouveau had triple head setup working, but after installing nvidia-331 I'm down to just the 2 monitors on the dgpu, and my monitor on igpu sits at a finished loading screen, isnt recognized in nvidia-settings or pre-installed gnome "Displays". Xorg.0.log has no errors and detects both devices and all 3 monitors. How can I get the monitor on intel igpu up while still using nvidia drivers
[01:12] <spearhead> bish0p_, This question on askubuntu has 3 different options to try. I would start with the first one and see if it works, if not try the second... http://askubuntu.com/questions/468204/no-panels-or-menus-after-upgrading-to-14-04
[01:12] <st0_> bish0p_: read my PM
[01:14] <bish0p_> spearhead, I'll try these, thanks
[01:17] <Mussolini> Tnk's all
[01:25] <bish0p_> update: apparently unity is just having issues with 14.04, and I installed it without realizing it's not the stable release. I'll see if I can deal with restarting lightdm every time I log on for a bit while they fix it, and if I can't I'll reinstall 13.14 or whatever
[01:25] <bish0p_> thanks for all your help guys
[01:27] <eeee> bish0p_: did you try to remove the config files?
[01:28] <eeee> bish0p_: if you start the pc using the guest session, does the task bar appear?
[01:28] <frezix> hi, I wanted to download warsow but I got super confused by their site: http://www.warsow.net/download here it just says for 14.04 while I have 12.04, but on this page it's an older version of warsow - http://www.warsow.net/download/ubuntu_precise
[01:29] <frezix> so which one should I install? will the older 102 version work with seeing servers for that version of 14.04?
[01:29] <bish0p_> eeee, no, and it takes a bit to switch to the guest, then blackscreens trying to switch back. taskbar DOES come up
[01:30] <eeee> bish0p_: try dconf -reset -f /org/compiz
[01:30] <bish0p_> eeee, alright
[01:30] <eeee> bish0p_: then type setsid unity
[01:31] <bish0p_> eeee, restart now?
[01:31] <eeee> did the task bar appear when you typed setsid unity?
[01:32] <bish0p_> yes
[01:32] <elky> frezix: you'll probably have to contact them directly if nobody here has used it (i haven't, and it's not in the repositories). they have a forum on that website
[01:32] <eeee> well, give it a shot
[01:32] <bish0p_> alright
[01:33] <elky> frezix: http://www.warsow.net/about/community lists an irc channel on another network too
[01:33] <rainbowwarrior> hello , my dvd drive has installed a broken Ubuntu 14.4.1 installation , is there a command in the terminal i could use to fix it please ?
[01:33] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: broken how?
[01:33] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: did you checksum the iso?
[01:34] <rainbowwarrior> eeee : i can not install software as it just sits there doing nothing
[01:35] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: you might need to enable the repository, what software are you trying to install?
[01:35] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: and it don't matter what software i choose , nothing works
[01:36] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: try apt-get from the command line if you're using software-center
[01:36] <eeee> it should give some info about what's going on
[01:37] <frezix> elky: thx I'll try and connect there :)
[01:37] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty, what i was hoping to do, was copy the files from my usb flash and overwrite the files in / as i though that would fix it ?
[01:38] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: if you think the installation is broken, i'd checksum the iso first
[01:38] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: ok ty
[01:38] <eeee> and don't copy no
[01:38] <bish0p_> eeee, no change :/ I'll just cope with it
[01:38] <rainbowwarrior> ok
[01:38] <rainbowwarrior> brb
[01:38] <eeee> bish0p_: try rm -rf ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1 && mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.backup
[01:40] <bish0p_> eeee, should I get a response from my terminal? and then restart?
[01:40] <eeee> you shouldn't get any errors
[01:41] <eeee> and then restart
[01:41] <bish0p_> eeee, I didn't get anything, I didn't know if it went through or not haha
[01:41] <bish0p_> restarting now
[01:44] <rainbowwarrior> eeee : well apt-get gave me no errors , but im starting to think the software center etc is brke
[01:44] <rainbowwarrior> broke *
[01:44] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: did you checksum the iso?
[01:44] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: gave you no errors, and worked?
[01:45] <rainbowwarrior> no eeee: no errors but don't work
[01:45] <bish0p_> eeee, nope
[01:45] <eeee> what command did you run?
[01:46] <rainbowwarrior> sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:46] <eeee> and it just returned, with no errors?
[01:46] <eeee> i mean, it didn't do anything?
[01:46] <eeee> bish0p_: i guess you could try to reinstall lightdm, maybe who knows,
[01:46] <misterTom> Hey guys, remember me?
[01:47] <bish0p_> eeee, hell, I might just reinstall a version below me, that had no issues
[01:47] <bish0p_> I'm p sure it's 14.04 having beta issues
[01:47] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: it downloaded some files, unpacked them, then setting up then finished
[01:47] <eeee> ( sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm )
[01:47] <doc-saintly> Hello - I had a Ubuntu Server 14 VM in Azure cloud, I did an apt-get upgrade then a restart, and now I"m locked out of the SSH. I checked the SSH config and it seems OK. What else should I check? I have access to the disk image file
[01:47] <misterTom> Whether you remember me or not I got Linux installed on my Chromebook thanks to you guys!
[01:47] <misterTom> I'm in your debt.
[01:47] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: ok, so it worked?
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: well it downloaded the files etc fine but when i run it, it don't work properly
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> and i know its not xchat as it works fine on another laptop and same uubntu version etc
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> brb
[01:52] <spearhead> doc-saintly, what error are you getting when you try to ssh?
[01:53] <cimmm1> Need help getting 3rd monitor running. Nouveau worked fine, after install nvidia-331 only nvidia works, not the intel. Everything I read online references bumblebee, but I'm not on a laptop. How can I get that third monitor up and keep nvidia drivers?
[01:53] <misterTom> Has anyone tried Steam in-home streaming?
[01:54] <rainbowwarrior> back
[01:57] <kcj[work]> Having trouble with multiple monitors. 2 cards, 3 monitors. Nvidia.
[01:58] <doc-saintly> spearhead: connection refused
[01:58] <spearhead> doc-saintly, any idea what was updated? could be a firewall problem or a sshd problem
[01:59] <doc-saintly> spearhead: I didn't change any network configuration, just an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, shutdown -r
[02:01] <spearhead> doc-saintly, have you been using this server for a while? and I am assuming since you checked the config file you still have access to the machine?
[02:01] <misterTom> Quick question: Can I disable the firewall in Ubuntu?
[02:02] <misterTom> I heard that it's built into the kernel or something.
[02:02] <doc-saintly> spearhead: yea, it's been up for maybe 3 weeks. I looked at the config and didn't see anything too crazy
[02:02] <eeee> misterTom: no
[02:02] <eeee> misterTom: there's no firewall
[02:02] <misterTom> eeee, I'
[02:02] <misterTom> am having trouble finding a host computer on the same network.
[02:02] <misterTom> Host can find the Ubuntu client, client can't find the host.
[02:04] <spearhead> doc-saintly, can you use pastebin to show the output of sudo iptables -L
[02:04] <doc-saintly> spearhead: unfortunately not. The VM is not longer running - thanks to the lovely Azure cloud I had to disable the machine to gain access to the disk image.
[02:05] <doc-saintly> so, all I can do is look at / edit files and then re-attach the disk and give it a try
[02:05] <doc-saintly> I just double-checked the SSH config against my current one on this machine and it's identical.
[02:06] <doc-saintly> spearhead: is there another way to get the information I'd need?
[02:08] <spearhead> doc-saintly, since the config files are the same the only thing I can think of that wouldn't allow you to connect would be a firewall blocking access to port 22
[02:08] <doc-saintly> spearhead: because that message indicates the connection is being forcefully rejected - coorect?
[02:08] <doc-saintly> correct*
[02:09] <spearhead> doc-saintly, yes, let me run a quick check...
[02:09] <Crackz0r> Hello
[02:10] <Crackz0r> I have Ubuntu Desktop... and i would like to have my own local server to test with
[02:10] <Crackz0r> With ubuntu server
[02:10] <Crackz0r> How can achieve that...
[02:10] <Crackz0r> ?
[02:11] <doc-saintly> Crackz0r: as in web server?
[02:11] <eeee> Crackz0r: do you mean you want a web server ( apache2 ) or to run ssh ?
[02:14] <Crackz0r> Well actually i'm using win 7 as my OS
[02:14] <spearhead> doc-saintly, interestingly, when I disable port 22 and try to ssh in to my server it just hangs, it doesn't throw an error or anything... can you pastebin the sshd_config file?
[02:14] <Crackz0r> And i have Ubuntu 14.04 running over VirtualBox
[02:14] <Crackz0r> But i want to move to Ubuntu Desktop
[02:14] <Crackz0r> As my OS
[02:14] <doc-saintly> spearhead: sure, /etc/ssh/ssh_config ?
[02:15] <spearhead> doc-saintly, no, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:15] <Crackz0r> And keep using ubuntu server as my development server
[02:15] <Crackz0r> Do you follow me ?
[02:15] <Crackz0r> :)
[02:17] <misterTom> I just ran "sudo apt-get install iptables" How can I undo what I have just done?
[02:18] <spearhead> misterTom, sudo apt-get purge iptables
[02:18] <spearhead> misterTom, but iptables should be preinstalled
[02:19] <spearhead> misterTom, I wouldn't remove it
[02:19] <misterTom> I'm having local network connectivity issues.
[02:19] <misterTom> Thank you thohugh, spearhead.
[02:21] <spearhead> misterTom, if you want to check your iptables to make sure nothing is interfering with the port you want to use run sudo iptables -L and make sure this line is first "Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)"
[02:21] <misterTom> spearhead, you're a great help! I'll give that a shot as soon as I figure out how to terminate an unresponsive process.]
[02:21] <doc-saintly> spearhead: it'll take me a few minutes, don't know how to copy out from SSH and dinner's ready
[02:22] <misterTom> Any hints?
[02:22] <spearhead> !pastebin > spearhead
[02:23] <spearhead> !pastebinit | doc-saintly
[02:24] <doc-saintly> spearhead: ah cool, thanks :) will report back soon
[02:24] <spearhead> misterTom, that depends on the process
[02:26] <misterTom> spearhead: "iptables not found"
[02:26] <misterTom> or more accurately "iptables: command not found"
[02:26] <Marce34> hi
[02:26] <Marce34> alguien desde Argentina?
[02:27] <spearhead> misterTom, did you run the purge command I said? if so then you need to reinstall iptables
[02:27] <spearhead> !ar | Marce34
[02:27] <misterTom> spearhead, Yeah, I'm starting to understand what I am doing a bit now... Second night with Linux.
[02:27] <misterTom> spearhead, I'm not going to reinstall iptables just yet. I want to fix my home networking first.
[02:28] <Bashing-om> misterTom: -> dpkg -l iptables ;;ii  iptables       1.4.21-1ubun amd64        administration tools for packet f .
[02:28] <misterTom> spearhead, I'm trying to get Steam in-home streaming working right now but my Windows host can see the Linux client and the client is blind to anything else.
[02:28] <misterTom> What do?
[02:29] <spearhead> misterTom, iptables doesn't actually do anything to your networking, it just allows you to edit the firewall table in the kernel
[02:29] <Marce34> okay
[02:29] <misterTom> spearhead: Reinstalling now, then.
[02:29] <misterTom> Bashing-om, what does that do?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> misterTom: All that is is to see if iptables is installed and it state (ii) installed/installed .. the other is what you should see.
[02:31] <misterTom> Bashing-om, spearhead: I should run "sudo apt-get install iptables" again?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> misterTom: I would suggest you run -> dpkg -l iptables <- to see what state iptables is in, to see what should be done.
[02:33] <spearhead> misterTom, I second that ^
[02:33] <misterTom> Not/Inst?
[02:33] <misterTom> Not installed, right?
[02:35] <spearhead> if the last line of that command outputs un iptables ....... then you should install it
[02:35] <Bashing-om> misterTom: What letter combo do you have in that 1st column .
[02:36] <misterTom> Bashing-om, What am I looking for, exactly?
[02:36] <Bashing-om> misterTom: the letters directly under +++-
[02:36] <misterTom> "un"
[02:38] <Bashing-om> misterTom: yes, then the status is "unknown" and "not installed" should now be good to apt-get install it, see what results.
[02:41] <headkase> Is there any method to compile code from source and end up with a .deb package?  Eg. when I type "make install" have that command go into something that generates a .deb so I can easily uninstall it later?
[02:43] <somsip> !packaging | headkase
[02:43] <headkase> It doesn't matter if it tracks dependencies, I can do that, just that it ends up being a package so I can purge it and leave no trace if I have to.
[02:44] <headkase> thanks somsip that is somewhere for me to start! ;)
[02:45] <misterTom> Ok, it's reinstalled.
[02:46] <NotreDev> ccrypt can apparently be used as a filter. does that mean i can write directly to it, or should i write to a pipe, and have ccrypt read from the pipe?
[02:46] <misterTom> Still can't find my Linux laptop on my home network.
[02:48] <spearhead> misterTom, so, if I am understanding you correctly you have a windows computer which is running a steam streaming host and a linux computer running a steam streaming client and the client on the linux machine cannot see the host on the windows machine?
[02:48] <misterTom> spearhead, exactly, yes!
[02:49] <misterTom> spearhead, are you at all familiar with in homes treaming?
[02:49] <misterTom> *streaming
[02:49] <leadZERO> I'm expanding a hardware RAID on an adaptec card. How do I have Linux probe for the larger capacity?
[02:49] <spearhead> misterTom, I have not dealt with in-home streaming... but this sounds like a windows issue. what version of windows are you running?
[02:49] <leadZERO> (on ubuntu server 14.04)
[02:50] <misterTom> Windows 8. -_-
[02:51] <_unreal_> cant see the host or doesnt support the game
[02:51] <misterTom> spearhead, Here's what I see in Steam. http://i.imgur.com/HS1IAky.png
[02:51] <spearhead> misterTom, I'm sorry but I have absolutely no experience with windows 8. I jumped off that bandwaggon for good whe. 7 came out...
[02:51] <daniel_> fim
[02:51] <misterTom> localhost is the name of my linux client since I didn't rename it, right?
[02:52] <misterTom> spearhead, the image I linked (http://i.imgur.com/HS1IAky.png) is from my Windows desktop.
[02:52] <misterTom> If I'm not mistaken that means that my desktop sees the client but the client won't connect, right?
[02:53] <_unreal_> localhost when it comes to games typically means the computer you are on
[02:53] <_unreal_> meaning self hosting
[02:53] <spearhead> misterTom, localhost is always the computer you are on.
[02:53] <misterTom> ...oh.
[02:53] <_unreal_> spearhead, takes me back to my good old quake days
[02:54] <_unreal_> heck doom
[02:54] <_unreal_> doom2 and direct dialup
[02:54] <_unreal_> hours of tied up phone lines :)
[02:54] <redco01> sup
[02:55] <_unreal_> per
[02:55] <redco01> any louisiana?
[02:56] <somsip> !ot | redco01
[02:56] <_unreal_> misterTom, I think the first thing to do is insure your able to view a steam network source but really this is topic for #steam
[02:57] <_unreal_> sorry #steamos
[02:57] <misterTom> _unreal_: yeah, you might be right.
[02:57] <_unreal_> redco01, florida
[02:57] <redco01> cool
[02:57] <_unreal_> misterTom, on which part?
[02:58] <redco01> i just finished a cylon linux install
[02:58] <somsip> _unreal_: please take the off topic chat elsewhere. This is not the place
[02:58] <misterTom> _unreal_: Everything? :P
[02:58] <misterTom> _unreal_: It might be better directed at #steamos
[02:59] <redco01> any one have any good distros
[03:00] <redco01> i like anthing debian/ubuntu based
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> I got a tunnel account from HE
[03:00] <redco01> damn ISS feed keeps cutting out
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> I added it using the instructions here: http://blog.iphoting.com/blog/2012/06/02/ipv6-on-amazon-aws-ec2/
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> but, I still can't connect to the ipv6 world
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> when I ping6 google, I get icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable
[03:00] <_unreal_> somsip, please read making claims, I just finished suggesting a redirection for his questions. dont blame me.
[03:01] <redco01> have u enabled ipv6?
[03:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> redco01, how do I check?
[03:01] <redco01> system settings, what OS u in?
[03:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> ubuntu server
[03:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> so command line only
[03:02] <redco01> http://www.hpc.mil/index.php/2013-08-29-16-03-23/networking-overview/2013-10-03-17-24-38/ipv6-knowledge-base-ip-transport/enabling-ipv6-in-debian-and-ubuntu-linux
[03:02] <_unreal_> MDTech-us_MAN, do you have an ip address?
[03:02] <_unreal_> or are you on the computer that your having issues with?
[03:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> _unreal_ what you mean?
[03:02] <misterTom> _unreal_: Can I check to see what machines are connected to my local network in Linux?
[03:02] <misterTom> Well, I bet I can. The question is how?
[03:03] <MDTech-us_MAN> _unreal_, it has a static IP
[03:03] <redco01> i prefer open suse for my server
[03:03] <_unreal_> yes you can and I dont know the command off the top of my head, its was an: arp command I beleive with a few switches and a semi ip address to scan
[03:03] <_unreal_> MDTech-us_MAN, are you on the computer you are having issues with or is it a remote server that you are trying to access?
[03:04] <redco01> open suse is just what we used in college so i am familier
[03:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> its remote server that I can SSH to
[03:04] <_unreal_> are you ssh'ed into it right now?
[03:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> _unreal_, yes
[03:04] <_unreal_> ok.
[03:04] <redco01> have u tried suse unreal?
[03:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> ummm
[03:05] <spearhead> !offtopic | redco01
[03:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> lsmod |grep ipv6 returns nothing
[03:05] <_unreal_> MDTech-us_MAN, why do you want ipv6?
[03:05] <redco01> lol sorry uno
[03:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> its a server and I want it to be IPv6 ready
[03:05] <spearhead> MDTech-us_MAN, you can check to see if you have an ipv6 address by running "ifconfig | grep inet6"
[03:05] <misterTom> _unreal_: When I try to brose my network via "Files" it times out.
[03:06] <redco01> ubuntu was my first she will always be special lol
[03:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> spearhead, it does show my IPv6 IP that I got from the tunnel
[03:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> also has ::1/128 which is the loopback
[03:08] <_unreal_> when it comes to ipv6 I dont have a lot of experience with it. so I dont think there is much I can help with on it.
[03:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> :(
[03:09] <spearhead> I wonder if there is some router in the way that is not setup for ipv6
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> its a tunnel
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> and its SUPPOSED to work
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> uggg
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> why does it work for everyone but me. :|
[03:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://blog.iphoting.com/blog/2012/06/02/ipv6-on-amazon-aws-ec2/
[03:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> as it seems, it works for the 99.9% of ppl
[03:10] <_unreal_> as I understand it ipv6 should work threw your current router. most likely it is going to be a settings issue on the server
[03:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> noooo
[03:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> it uses a TUNNEL
[03:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> not the router
[03:11] <_unreal_> regardless ipv6 wont become main stream till prob 2018-2020
[03:11] <spearhead> well it doesn't work for me... but I haven't tried it... like _unreal_ I have almost no experience with ipv6 but it sounds like it is a configuration error... I might try running through the tutorial again, see if you made a mistake somewhere.
[03:11] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: Can you "pastebinit < <(ip link show && ip addr show && ip route show )" ?
[03:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8295897/
[03:13] <misterTom> What is YaST?
[03:13] <squinty> an off topic for this channel?
[03:14] <somsip> squinty: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:14] <squinty> someone,  thanks but was refering to misterTom's comment.  ;-)
[03:14] <misterTom> Whenever I try to look at the network I get "The system network services are not compatible with this version."
[03:15] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: I forgot one :) "pastebinit < <(ip -6 route show)"
[03:15] <misterTom> Sorry, I don't even really know the right questions to ask about yet.
[03:15] <_unreal_> ahhh I figured it out
[03:15] <_unreal_> nmap -sP 192.168.x.*
[03:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8295924/
[03:16] <_unreal_> misterTom, that right there : nmap -sP 192.168.x.*    replace the x with your current home network ip setup 0 or 1 etc.....
[03:16] <_unreal_> that will list all of the ip address on your local network
[03:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> never knew about the pastebinit command before
[03:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> thx
[03:17] <spearhead> _unreal_, i forget what -sP does but I always run with -sV to get version info...
[03:17] <misterTom> How do I find my home network ip?
[03:17] <misterTom> Can I do so through Windows with "ipconfig"
[03:17] <spearhead> misterTom, yes or through linux with ifconfig
[03:18] <squinty> ifconfig
[03:18] <_unreal_> hehe misterTom if what ever computer you are on just look at your ip address
[03:18] <doc-saintly> spearhead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8295937/
[03:18] <misterTom> Default Gateway?
[03:18] <_unreal_> misterTom, are you on windblows or linux currently?
[03:18] <misterTom> Both?
[03:19] <misterTom> Two computers going on.
[03:19] <_unreal_> ok then on the linux one: sudo ifconfig
[03:20] <_unreal_> then when you know what your network is setup like: nmap -sP 192.168.x.*                  its going to be 192.168.0 or 1.*
[03:20] <misterTom> I'm illiterate.
[03:20] <squinty> may have to install nmap
[03:20] <misterTom> Where can I find that?
[03:20] <misterTom> inet addr?
[03:20] <_unreal_> same thing
[03:20] <spearhead> doc-saintly, I don't see anything there that would refuse a connection... my other thought is maybe ssh isn't getting started on boot...
[03:21] <doc-saintly> spearhead: which init should I look in for that?
[03:21] <_unreal_> you type rather well for an illiterate
[03:21] <misterTom> Infinite monkies...
[03:21] <squinty> heh
[03:21] <_unreal_> ok are you sshed into the linux machine on the windows?
[03:21] <_unreal_> what computer are you sitting in front of a linux one or a windows one?
[03:21] <misterTom> Both.
[03:22] <misterTom> I have this chat window on Windows.
[03:22] <_unreal_> ok....
[03:22] <doc-saintly> misterTom: didn't you say one was a VM?
[03:22] <_unreal_> then on the linux computer have open your console if not already, and type: sudo ifconfig
[03:22] <misterTom> ^^^ did that much at least.
[03:22] <misterTom> *Not on VM, btw.
[03:23] <_unreal_> ok did you get a list of data return?
[03:23] <misterTom> Am I looking for the inet addr?
[03:23] <_unreal_> inet
[03:23] <_unreal_> inet 192.168.
[03:23] <misterTom> Ok, I got two output thingies though.
[03:23] <misterTom> Oh, ok.
[03:23] <misterTom> Got it.
[03:24] <_unreal_> 2 outputs one lo and one eth0?
[03:24] <misterTom> lo and wlan0
[03:24] <_unreal_> ok what is your ip?
[03:24] <misterTom> dunt hak me pls
[03:24] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: So far all that looks good
[03:25] <MDTech-us_MAN> i'll try rebooting
[03:25] <misterTom> I found the IP for wlan0
[03:25] <_unreal_> misterTom, your on a home network behind a router your current ip is a privet network ip.
[03:25] <_unreal_> good what is it
[03:25] <_unreal_> 192.168......
[03:25] <misterTom> 192.168.100.131
[03:25] <_unreal_> ?
[03:25] <_unreal_> heheh 100 was not expecting that
[03:26] <_unreal_> ok so then misterTom : nmap -sP 192.168.100.*
[03:26] <_unreal_> or: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.100.* and that will return all the devices on your network
[03:27] <misterTom> That's not right?>
[03:27] <_unreal_> ?
[03:27] <spearhead> doc-saintly, look in /etc/rc2.d to see if there is a file named Sxxsshd where xx is some number
[03:27] <_unreal_> you can a no command found error?
[03:27] <_unreal_> get
[03:28] <misterTom> "nmap -sP 192.168.100.131*" right?
[03:28] <doc-saintly> spearhead: will do, sec.
[03:28] <_unreal_> misterTom, copy and paste what I posted
[03:29] <_unreal_> may or may not need sudo:           nmap -sP 192.168.100.*                      and no adding 131 is worng because your giving the full address, you want the computer to search the network for all of the ip addreses which are 192.168.100.xxx      0-255
[03:30] <_unreal_> so if you leave out the last set of numbers and put the star. then it searches for ALL 0-255
[03:30] <_unreal_> where as if you put your personal ip its just going to search your personal ip because thats what you told it to do. and the star you added at the end should give a syntex error
[03:30] <_unreal_> spearhead, help my insanity
[03:31] <somsip> !info apache2-dbg
[03:32] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_ ehhh still will not work
[03:32] <misterTom> _unreal_?
[03:32] <misterTom> Did I goof?
[03:33] <spearhead> misterTom, run the command "nmap -sP 192.168.100.*" exactly as I typed it.
[03:33] <_unreal_> misterTom, last time, copy and paste this on the linux computer. and you may or may not need (sudo) at the start: nmap -sP 192.168.100.*
[03:34] <_unreal_> That will return all the possible ip addresses on your network. unless its setup with multi levels of ip addressing
[03:34] <_unreal_> and by possible I mean active registered ip addresses
[03:37] <mister_Tom> Uh, hey?
[03:37] <mister_Tom> No idea what happened there.
[03:37] <mister_Tom> "nmap -sP 192.168.x."
[03:37] <spearhead> nmap -sP 192.168.100.*
[03:38] <mister_Tom> I have to install nmap though?
[03:38] <spearhead> yes you need to install nmap
[03:38] <spearhead> sudo apt-get install nmap --assume-yes
[03:38] <mister_Tom> apt-get install nmap?
[03:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> O.O
[03:38] <mister_Tom> IS there anyway.
[03:39] <mister_Tom> What happened?!
[03:39] <doc-saintly> spearhead: no sshd file in there, could it be in another rc folder?
[03:40] <spearhead> doc-saintly, apparently not, I just checked my server and it isn't in any of them... you don't have any access to this server except through ssh do you?
[03:40] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: I think I've got it, are you able to make some changes?
[03:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> yes
[03:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_
[03:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> wtf?
[03:40] <doc-saintly> spearhead: nope :(
[03:41] <doc-saintly> would any of the log files help?
[03:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_, You still here?
[03:41] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: The ipv6 default route is set to the Ethernet device; that needs making more specific, to include a "via <IPv6-of-the-HE-gateway>"
[03:41] <spearhead> doc-saintly, when it is running I mean.
[03:41] <MisTom> Ok, I ran the nmap thing. Now what?
[03:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_, so how would I accomplish this?
[03:42] <munchyma2esh> guys ubuntu not showing wireless card help help pleaes ?????
[03:42] <MisTom> I went to browse network and I can see "Windows Network" but when I try to access it I get "Unable to access location"
[03:42] <doc-saintly> spearhead: no, I don't. this is hosted on the cloud so the only way I can get to it (that I know of) was the previous ssh connection
[03:43] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: I'm trying to figure out which IPv6 that would be; I suspect it is "2001:470:4:a4c::2" from the "he-ipv6" interface
[03:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> IT WORKS!!!!!
[03:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> YAHOOOOOOOO
[03:43] <MisTom> spearhead, _unreal_: I went to browse network and I can see "Windows Network" but when I try to access it I get "Unable to access location"
[03:43] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: So, lets try "sudo ip -6 route del default" then "sudo ip -6 route add default dev he-ipv6 via 2001:470:4:a4c::2"
[03:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> seems like that guide wasn't ubuntu specific or something
[03:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://samsclass.info/ipv6/proj/pHE1A-Tunnel.htm works
[03:44] <munchyma2esh> guys help ....
[03:44] <lyar> ching ling
[03:47] <lyar> hello
[03:48] <spearhead> doc-saintly, check and make sure /etc/init.d/ssh is there and if it is can you pastebinit its contents
[03:49] <misterTom> Last time spamming this then!: spearhead, _unreal_: I went to browse network and I can see "Windows Network" but when I try to access it I get "Unable to access location"
[03:49] <lyar> YES
[03:50] <spearhead> misterTom, I don't have a clue what the problem is. I think it is something with steam, I would try and find help at #steamos
[03:50] <misterTom> At this point I'm just trying to connect my Linux laptop to the rest of the home network.
[03:51] <lyar> no no
[03:51] <doc-saintly> spearhead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8296132/
[03:52] <doc-saintly> oh wait, that's the tail, sec.
[03:52] <lyar> messi ow noob
[03:52] <doc-saintly> spearhead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8296134/
[03:52] <misterTom> I have to go to bed now though.
[03:54] <misterTom> I have to go to bed now but thank you so much for all your help tonight guys!
[03:55] <misterTom> You have saintly patience.
[03:55] <misterTom> One day I'll get myself on my feet.
[03:55] <spearhead> doc-saintly, and what are the permissions on /etc/init.d/ssh?
[03:55] <misterTom> Maybe I'll be able to pay it forward one day.
[03:56] <misterTom> spearhead, I am going to smile at everyone I see tomorrow because of you.
[03:56] <misterTom> Faith in humanity +1
[03:56] <misterTom> Night, all.
[03:56] <spearhead> misterTom, from what I know of steam on ubuntu is it is still very new and probably still has bugs
[03:58] <doc-saintly> spearhead: -rwxr-xr-x
[04:00] <spearhead> doc-saintly, ok, then it should be starting just fine... can you try booting it back up and trying it again but add the -v tag to your ssh command
[04:02] <themusicgod1> i have a bug in libreoffice, which is presumably somewhat close to some git checkout from the official repo ... I go to the official repo and the bug is not there.  Is there any way to find what checkout they pulled to make the package so that I can bisect around there in the original repo to see if the bug is there?
[04:03] <themusicgod1> or should I just wait until they pull a new checkout in utopic(easier)
[04:04] <doc-saintly> spearhead: ssh: connect to host triforce.cloudapp.net port 22: Connection refused
[04:04] <doc-saintly> even trying it on the regular port now just to make sure everything is OK
[04:07] <spearhead> doc-saintly, you you have anything else running on the server such as a web server?
[04:08] <doc-saintly> spearhead: yes, but it's not running either.
[04:08] <doc-saintly> spearhead: I just compared the ssh and sshd_config files to another working VM in the same cloud provider, and they're the exact same
[04:10] <spearhead> doc-saintly, if the web server is not running either it sounds like the server isn't actually booting. You might want to contact the cloud provider.
[04:12] <doc-saintly> spearhead: yea, i'm writing them a request now... and they have crappy support ~.~ ugh. cloud sucks.
[04:13] <spearhead> doc-saintly, yeah, I have a couple servers running at home on old hardware and much prefer it to any cloud service I have tried... at least I can plug a monitor and keyboard into it if need be.
[04:15] <kudakwashe> i'm using ubuntu from zimbabwe, in the language support settings -> Regional Format, it shows the currency as the Zimbabwe Dollar ( http://i.imgur.com/UvLZaup.png ) though in Zimbabwe our official currency has been the United States Dollar since 2009
[04:15] <kudakwashe> i've posted a window screen shot of it
[04:15] <kudakwashe> there isn't anyone in ubuntu-zw
[04:16] <kudakwashe> sorry, #ubuntu-zw
[04:16] <_TJ_> kudakwashe: Report a bug against the zw locale
[04:16] <kudakwashe> _TJ_: how do i do that
[04:17] <themusicgod1> kudakwashe: run ubuntu-bug?
[04:17] <kudakwashe> themusicgod1: okay thanks, is the questioni mark sarcasm?
[04:18] <themusicgod1> I'm not sure it's entirely what you're looking for
[04:18] <themusicgod1> you can use ubuntu-bug to report bugs on packages
[04:18] <themusicgod1> but I'm not sure if it'll walk you to locale bugs
[04:18] <kudakwashe> themusicgod1: okay, thanks :-)
[04:19] <doc-saintly> spearhead: thanks for your time... I think i'll abandon this cloud provider before I pay $30 to get support on something that I should have more options for myself.
[04:20] <spearhead> doc-saintly, sorry I couldn't have been more help.
[04:21] <_TJ_> kudakwashe: I'm trying to locate the package to report it against
[04:21] <kudakwashe> _TJ_: thanks
[04:22] <kudakwashe> _TJ_: i'll be back in about half an hour, hope you're still here, thanks for your help
[04:22] <doc-saintly> np, the help is still appreciated :)
[04:28] <doc-saintly> what is fmsascon and bgp? I find those running on nmap (179 / 16001)
[04:33] <spearhead> apparently fmsascon is and Administration Server Connector... don't ask me what that means. and bgp is boarder gateway protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol
[04:34] <doc-saintly> spearhead: when I try to ssh into 16001 I get ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[04:35] <spearhead> doc-saintly, i don't know what to tell you... but I should probably head to bed...
[04:36] <doc-saintly> ok, thanks again :)
[04:36] <_TJ_> doc-saintly: are you sure the connection is terminating on the host you think it is?
[04:37] <doc-saintly> _TJ_ pretty sure. i started trying to connect to that server from a differetn VM and it gets refused to
[04:37] <tsimpson> doc-saintly: I suggest you look at the output of "sudo netstat -lnp" if you want to see what processes are listening on what ports
[04:37] <doc-saintly> and that's within the cloud, so
[04:37] <doc-saintly> tsimpson: I have no physical access to the machine I can't ssh into, I can only look at an image of the disk
[04:38] <twain> anyone have a suggestion on usinga usb to serial port emulator
[04:38] <twain> i have  usb device  i need to reconize as a com port
[04:38] <_TJ_> doc-saintly: So, you've looked at the firewall rules being loaded? checked for firewall log entries?
[04:39] <doc-saintly> _TJ_ nope, don't know how to do that
[04:39]  * TJ- has returned to regular nickname
[04:40] <ObrienDave> twain, not sure how to do so in Ubuntu. what are you trying to communicate with?
[04:40] <twain> obdii software  using wine
[04:40] <TJ-> doc-saintly: If you have recovery shell access to mount the root file-system of the installation, first try to identify any firewall in use by examining its "/etc/network/interfaces" file for lines like "iptables-restore </etc/iptables.up.rules" which point you to where the firewall rules are stored.
[04:40] <twain> thanks for the response
[04:41] <ObrienDave> twain, there are several Win programs that will do that. the name of any escape me now
[04:41] <allstarsnorks2> Hey. How I uninstall the terminal in Xubuntu? I have installed Pantheon, and it came with their own terminal.
[04:42] <allstarsnorks2> *installed Pantheon on Xubuntu
[04:42] <twain> i have the win program   but  cant figure out how to get ubuntu to  pas throw
[04:42] <doc-saintly> TJ-: don't see anything in there. just pretty blank, auth eth0, etc.
[04:43] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Secondly, insert a line into "/etc/rc.local", before the last line that reads "exit 0", that does some logging. e.g. to check if services are listening, or to dump the firewall configuration. Maybe "netstat -tnlp > /var/log/debug.log" and "iptables-save >> /var/log/debug.log" and "ps -efly | grep sshd >> /var/log/debug.log"
[04:43] <doc-saintly> TJ-: I see. thanks for the info, but I think i'm just going to start from scratch, learn my lesson and never use this cloud provider again
[04:43] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Then if you reboot the VM, give it a while to start, then shut it down, return to the rescue shell and check the contents of that log file that ws written to
[04:44] <doc-saintly> TJ-: it takes a long time for me to mount/unmount the disk in order to even view / make changes
[04:44] <TJ-> doc-saintly: how do you know its the cloud provider problem though?
[04:45] <doc-saintly> TJ-: well, I can think of a bunch of things they could have done to prevent this, but I'm sure there's things I could know that would help me fix it.
[04:46] <bjpenn> anyone know how to switch out of guest session in ubuntu?
[04:47] <doc-saintly> all I did was apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, shutdown -r, and that broke things good. SO, they should either not put stuff in their repos that will break VMs like that, or allow a more "physical" type connection to their VMs (like VBox gives fake RDP), or show a console log for debugging, OR have a support ticket system without having to pay another $30 on top of the price of the VM
[04:47] <bjpenn> the login only allows me to log in using guest
[04:47] <doc-saintly> i've done this same thing on another cloud provider and had nowhere near this many problems
[04:47] <bjpenn> and when im in, i cant sudo or do anything
[04:50] <MrSalt> bjpenn, no other users show up?
[04:50] <bjpenn> how do i tell what other users can show up?
[04:50] <bjpenn> i mean
[04:50] <shutUPu> MrSalt: c
[04:51] <bjpenn> by default its on "Guest session"
[04:51] <bjpenn> ive never used the login window before so i dont know what to press or whether theres a dropdown or anything
[04:51] <bjpenn> i tried clicking around, but nothing seems to be clickable
[04:51] <bjpenn> when i click on the Log in -> button
[04:51] <bjpenn> it just logs in as guest
[04:51] <bjpenn> theres a vagrant account that i use
[04:52] <sionih> greetings earthlinks
[04:52] <shutUPu> sionih: g
[04:52] <TJ-> doc-saintly: It looks like MS Azure is leaking private address space; with a tracepath I get "13:  10.22.45.53 " as one hop
[04:53] <shutUPu> TJ-: so
[04:53] <azizLIGHT> how do i favorite a place so i can go back to that location wuickly
[04:54] <azizLIGHT> *quickly
[04:54] <themusicgod1> what kind of place
[04:54] <MrSalt> bjpenn, I'm not sure what the best action is here.  You may be able to cntl-alt-f1 and log in there if you have other users defined.  (cntl-alt-f7) to return to the graphic window.  I
[04:54] <eeee> azizLIGHT: symlink
[04:54] <ObrienDave> in which program?
[04:54] <azizLIGHT> like /some/random/dir
[04:54] <MrSalt> bjpenn, if you do you have other users defined, I don't know the best way to reset them in the login page.  Perhaps others know.
[04:54] <eeee> azizLIGHT: ln -s <favorite place> </path/to/link>
[04:55] <shutUPu> eeee: fast
[04:55] <azizLIGHT> i mean in the gui file manager theres a sidebar for places, and it doesnt seem like i can drag drop locations into it
[04:55] <azizLIGHT> it says places, devices, network in the sidebar
[04:56] <azizLIGHT> how can i add more things to the places section kn the file manager
[04:56] <ObrienDave> azizLIGHT, no, but you can put the link on your desktop. a la windows
[04:56] <bjpenn> anyone know how i can log in with something other than guest session?
[04:56] <shutUPu> azizLIGHT: t
[04:57] <ubuntu> hello
[04:58] <blitz> a linux live usb keeps freezing on me after I mount a ntfs drive and start dd-ing a 2.5 inch drive to an iso file
[04:58] <blitz> I thought it was the usb, so moved to another one same issue
[04:59] <shutUPu> Fuck you all stupid bastard
[04:59] <blitz> hi
[04:59] <azizLIGHT> hmm
[04:59] <blitz> anyone ever heard of this? is there a way to boot to something other than the DE
[04:59] <azizLIGHT> where do i enable the workspaces
[05:00] <doc-saintly> TJ-: what does that mean?
[05:00] <somsip> !text | blitz
[05:00] <ObrienDave> super full moon tonight?
[05:00] <blitz> im gonna reflash ubuntu to the usb stick first
[05:02] <blitz> somsip is there any harm in dding the iso to the stick with bs=10m instead of 1m  ?
[05:03] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Well, any infrastructure provider that leaks private IP address space to the outside world is misconfiguring routers; doesn't give me much confidence in their network
[05:04] <somsip> blitz: it's more likely to bork I guess, but no real idea
[05:04] <doc-saintly> TJ-: I read something about some infrastructure updates, but I guess we'll see.
[05:04] <doc-saintly> bleh. this whole things give me a bad experience of cloud / linux server :(
[05:05] <doc-saintly> guess I shouldn't play with stuff I don't know that well
[05:05] <doc-saintly> I appreciate everyone's help though.
[05:05] <TJ-> doc-saintly: "cloud" is a daft term which means nothing. It's simply remotely located and managed/unmanaged servers
[05:05] <AiNp> Hello
[05:06] <doc-saintly> TJ-: with no physical access
[05:06] <Guest75331> how do i install flash
[05:06] <somsip> !flash | Guest75331
[05:06] <AiNp> Ubuntu software centre- search flash- install
[05:07] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Any professional outfit provides remote consoles via IPMI/KVM over IP for bare metal/dedicated servers, or serial-over-LAN/ssh for virtual machines
[05:08] <AiNp> Or download a .deb from Adobe and run sudo dpkg -i flash.deb
[05:08] <Guest75331> why isnt anything loading in firefox
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !flash | Guest75331
[05:08] <somsip> !details | Guest75331
[05:09] <Guest75331> i clicked that link at help.ubuntu.com and firefox is just spiining
[05:09] <Guest75331> im on the livecd
[05:09] <somsip> Guest75331: try another URL before saying that nothing is loading.
[05:09] <richac> hello,  i was wondering what ports does ubuntu use for the updates?
[05:10] <blitz> wow it froze again
[05:10] <blitz> just looking at gparted
[05:10] <Guest75331> somsip, its doing it for all pages but only sometimes, and intermittently
[05:10] <Guest75331> im connecting via ethernet
[05:11] <Guest75331> is it a hardware problem
[05:11] <somsip> Guest75331: sounds like connection problems then
[05:11] <Guest75331> i have many other devices on this network
[05:11] <Guest75331> none behave this way
[05:11] <Guest75331> its ubuntu
[05:11] <Guest75331> whats going on... it cant handle my ethernet hardware?
[05:12] <Guest75331> how to check
[05:15] <vbgunz> I've changed xorg.conf from driver nvidia to nouveau. I restart the DM and end up with a blinking underscore. I black listed nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and rebooted but nvidia is still in use. Nouveau should be installed at least the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package is but trying to use the open driver is impossible. What could I be missing?
[05:15] <Guest75331> is it because im on livecd
[05:15] <Guest75331> is livecd havin problems
[05:15] <Guest75331> when i install flashplugin-installer its taking so long
[05:16] <Guest75331> i have a i5-4690k it shouldnt be slow
[05:16] <TJ-> Guest75331: Is it wired or wireless network?
[05:16] <Guest75331> wired
[05:17] <cfhowlett> Guest75331, your on live CD = ram.  you're installing to RAM.  OF COURSE it's slow!  it's all in RAM!
[05:17] <bjpenn> anyone know how i can get in with a user other than "Guest Session" or prevent it from going into this GUI login? https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/146930/1059933/2iWCHk5BBDUQj8w/upload.png
[05:17] <Guest75331> cfhowlett,  so is that why also the network is going slow?
[05:18] <Guest75331> its like its waiting and then burst loads
[05:18] <bjpenn> how do i even get into grub?
[05:18] <TJ-> Guest75331: It sounds more like a DNS resolver delay
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Guest75331, this ^^^
[05:18] <blitz> I hope you're happy ubuntu now I'm questioning my own sanity and running memtest
[05:18] <cfhowlett> blitz, running memtest is a sane activity.
[05:19] <TJ-> bjpenn: Hold down "shift" key as the system starts to boot
[05:21] <Guest75331> TJ-, how do i test if thats the real problem? its only happening on ubuntu on my network. my android works fine, chromecast works fine, win7 works fine
[05:21] <Guest75331> it just says "Connecting to speedtest.net" in firefox
[05:22] <bjpenn> TJ-: thanks
[05:22] <bjpenn> TJ-: do you happen to know how i can log in with an actual account rather than being limted to "guest session"?
[05:22] <richac> assign a static ip address and change dns servers
[05:22] <Guest75331> whats the hotkey for the workspaces
[05:22] <Guest75331> ok
[05:23] <TJ-> bjpenn: If the account exists it should be available via the GUI greeter, or if you limit the system to "text" mode, at a tty login
[05:24] <bjpenn> im using vagrant
[05:24] <greeter> -.- i gotta disable highlights for this channel
[05:24] <bjpenn> im not sure if you know what that is, but every "box" comes with a vagrant account
[05:24] <bjpenn> so theres a vagrant accoun
[05:24] <bjpenn> how do i select it?
[05:26] <richac> is there a way to stop screensaver on idle when watching videos?
[05:29] <blitz> ok I booted into text mode, but now I can't mount my ntfs drive like I could before
[05:29] <blitz> I do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/a
[05:29] <blitz> and get NTFS signature is missing
[05:30] <blitz> unless fdisk -l is misreporting drives, I'm 100% sure that's the right device
[05:31] <blitz> fdisk says it's GPT now
[05:32] <richac> is there a way to stop screensaver automatically when playing videos?
[05:33] <Loshki> richac: its configurable on some players. Check your docs.
[05:35] <richac> i'm using vlc
[05:35] <richac> and firefox
[05:36] <richac> I don't think its possible
[05:41] <g-one> getting error on ubuntu while compile package samba ..help .???
[05:44] <Loshki> richac: mplayer may be the only one that does it. How about just setting the timeout much longer on your screensaver. It may cost you battery though...
[05:45] <ubuntu__> how to enable the workspaces
[05:46] <g-one>  Could not find the python development headers
[05:46] <g-one> help ????
[05:46] <somsip> g-one: install python-dev probably
[05:50] <ubuntu__> what are those things at the top called? icons like the volume, or mail icon, or En
[05:57] <cfhowlett> how do I pipe terminal output to a txt file, please?
[05:58] <Loshki> cfhowlett: do you mean: command > file.txt
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Loshki, THAT's the one.  Thank you!
[05:59] <Coded1> hello all
[05:59] <john_rambo> Suppose I do #ufw allow <port> This opens the port to all IP ranges right ? I want to open the port to only the 172.16.0.0 range ....What is the command for that ?
[06:01] <Coded1> I picked up a cheap VPS that I would like to use as a VPN server.  The OS installed is Ubuntu 14.04.  I tried removing services I don't need such as postfix, sendmail, apache2 and samba.  Once I "apt-get remove --purge" all these packages they are all gone.  Now though when I do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" (as root) apache2, samba and all the other packages I removed get listed to upgrade
[06:02] <sargas> audio stopped working on 14.04 after modifying files in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/
[06:02] <Coded1> so now when I upgrade Ubuntu wants to pull in apache2, samba, postfix et al
[06:02] <sargas> can someone help me get it back?
[06:03] <sargas> if I run pulseaudio I get "E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[06:03] <sargas> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[06:03] <sargas> "
[06:03] <Coded1> sargas: have your tried "sudo apt-get reinstall alsa" ?
[06:04] <sargas> Coded1: reinstall doens't seem to be a command
[06:04] <sargas> Coded1: did you mean a purge, then an install?
[06:04] <Loshki> sargas: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa
[06:05] <sargas> Loshki: done, how do I restart the service (or whatever alsa is)?
[06:05] <cyberpolice> is this purple tint in the dash normal: http://i.imgur.com/R82hsmV.png
[06:06] <Loshki> sargas: beats me, did the files in alsa.conf.d change?
[06:07] <sargas> Loshki: I have no idea
[06:07] <sargas> Loshki: I renamed some files in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/
[06:07] <sargas> Loshki: then renamed i back to what it was
[06:08] <sargas> Loshki: and now he sound plays on startup (at the login window), but that's it
[06:08] <Loshki> sargas: you can always reboot if no-one has a better option. Next time, before you make changes, make a backup copy: cp -r alsa.conf.d alsa.conf.d.bak
[06:09] <sargas> Loshki: yeah, just renaming the files didn't prove to be fail-proof
[06:09] <Loshki> sargas: :-)
[06:09] <sargas> Loshki: next time I'll make backups...
[06:10]  * cfhowlett thinks experience is a great teacher.
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Coded1, I can't think of a single reason why those purged packages are trying to return on updating.  should not happen.
[06:11] <Guest19151> line for changing your name?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !nick Guest19151
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !nick | Guest19151
[06:12] <Loshki> sargas: I keep /etc backed up anyway. With a separate /home, I can upgrade/reinstall in an hour or so...
[06:12] <Coded1> How can I get a dependency tree ?  Is there a way to see what package is pulling in apache2 and the rest?
[06:13] <onkl> it's been a while
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Coded1, man rdepends iirc
[06:13] <Coded1> cfhowlett: thank you sir
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Coded1, happy2help
[06:13] <hillary> Am unable to use my broadband modem in ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:13] <sargas> Loshki: rebooted the machine, didn't work
[06:13] <hillary> It disconnect
[06:14] <sargas> Loshki: if you have other suggestions, let me know
[06:14] <hillary> any help?
[06:14] <onkl> how are you connected to the internet, hillary?
[06:14] <sargas> Loshki: When I use hotkeys to volume up and down, it initially works, but stops after I try try to play a video or audio
[06:15] <hillary> am now using cable network
[06:15] <hillary> in a cyber cafe
[06:15] <onkl> wired?
[06:16] <hillary> but when i switch to ubuntu studio it is fine
[06:17] <cfhowlett> hillary, question: ubuntustudio is installed to HDD?
[06:17] <hillary> yes
[06:17] <cyberpolice> what are those things at the top called? icons like the volume, or mail icon, or En
[06:17] <Coded1> it turned out I removed apache2 but not apache2-bin/doc/etc .  Is there a 'better' way to uninstall packages so I don't get orphaned packages?
[06:17] <cyberpolice> can i get more of those
[06:17] <cyberpolice> in android i call them notifications?
[06:17] <chull> can someone please help with my husband's ubuntu 13.04 - where is "menu"?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> Coded1, apt-get purge apache2*
[06:17] <hillary> i have both studio and 12.04 in my laptop
[06:18] <cfhowlett> chull, 13.04 is unsupported and end of life.  help your husband by installing a supported OS.
[06:18] <Coded1> cfhowlett: cool I guess I just got lazy :)
[06:18] <Coded1> cfhowlett: thanks again
[06:18] <cfhowlett> Coded1, happy2help
[06:18] <hillary> cfhowlett you get me?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> hillary, studio 14.04?
 13.8
[06:19] <cfhowlett> hillary, 13.8??? no such animal.
[06:19] <chull> cfhowlett, wonderful. i think he is waiting to get his new system. he can't seem to download and install programs. i was thinking his apt/sources/list needs amending - which the webpage says is better done with synaptic and i can't begin to help - my old gnome desktop is hugely different from his
[06:19] <cfhowlett> hillary, anyway, 13.04 and 13.10 are both end of life.  time to upgrade.
[06:20] <cfhowlett> hillary, sorry.  meant that for chull.
[06:20] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | chull
 sorry sorry 12.10
[06:21] <onkl> lol
[06:21] <cfhowlett> chull, not a matter of amending.  his OS is no longer supported, including security upgrades.  when he goes online, he is vulnerable and exposed - and not the good kind.
 it is studio 12.10
[06:22] <cfhowlett> hillary, 12.10 ubuntustudio?  end of life, but it finds your modem?  good.  going online without security upgrades - bad.  time to upgrade that as well.  but : why TWO ubuntus?  choose one!
 so i download 13.04 or 13.10? advice
[06:24] <cfhowlett> hillary, neither!!! both those are end of life.  current supported versions are 12.04.5 and 14.04.1
[06:24] <onkl> maybe have to install updates sequentially?
[06:24] <onkl> or am i confusing things?
[06:24] <hillary> I get this error when upgrading packages "subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[06:24] <cfhowlett> hillary, as you're on 12.10, you could 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04 OR (my advice) torrent the 14.04.1 .iso and clean install.
[06:25] <onkl> go for the latter
[06:25] <cyberpolice> is this purple tint in the dash normal: http://i.imgur.com/R82hsmV.png
[06:26] <cyberpolice> yes or no question
[06:26] <cfhowlett> cyberpolice, I think it's theme dependent
[06:27] <onkl> i bought a used laptop that has a partition on it that i can't read.  should i buy a new HD?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> onkl, y u no format the HDD?
[06:27] <onkl> how to DM?
[06:28] <onkl> i haven't been on IRC in years
[06:28] <cyberpolice> cfhowlett, i chaned themes from ambience to high conrast, and i still see the same purple tint
[06:28] <cfhowlett> onkl, delete the partition and use the HDD IF you are sure you don't need it.  windows7 hides the "restore" partition in an unreadable format as I recall.
[06:28] <cyberpolice> anyone else on ubuntu 14.04 can confirm their dash is purple tinted?
[06:29] <onkl> windows 8, according to the sticker
[06:29] <onkl> cyberpolice, my dash isn't purple tinted.
[06:30] <cfhowlett> onkl, same difference.  probably a windows specific partition.  if you have no plans to ever run windows on that machine, nuke it.  otherwise save it.  can't be more than a few gb in size, right?
[06:30] <cyberpolice> wierd. so maybe its my hardware related
[06:31] <onkl> 220 MB, which is why i was scared
[06:31] <onkl> why can't I read that?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> onkl, dude.  windows proprietary formatting.
[06:31] <onkl> I can nuke that
[06:32] <onkl> nuked.  and i'm still here.
[06:32] <cfhowlett> onkl, "I Will Never Run Windows On This Machine" ... sign here and nuke away.
[06:32] <onkl> lol
[06:32] <cfhowlett> onkl, dust cloud.  perfect.
[06:32] <onkl> yay!  I feel so free
[06:32] <kudakwashe> i'm not sure how to report this bug - ( screenshot of window: http://i.imgur.com/UvLZaup.png - in Language Support -> Regional Formats it shows the currency as the Zimbabwe Dollar, though we've been using the United States Dollar since 2009 ( and probably will for many years to come )
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !bug | kudakwashe
[06:33] <kostkon> cyberpolice, your dash looks normal. what's the problem
[06:33] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: what package is that ( if you can please take the time to look at the screen shot )
[06:33] <cyberpolice> kostkon, oh? someone else said their dash wasnt purple
[06:34] <cyberpolice> kostkon, you saw the pic? http://i.imgur.com/R82hsmV.png
[06:34] <kostkon> cyberpolice, your dash takes the average colour of your wallpaper. change the wallpaper and it will change colour
[06:34] <cyberpolice> interseting
[06:34] <cyberpolice> ill do that
[06:35] <cyberpolice> kostkon, thanks, that did the trick
[06:35] <onkl> i was good at computers once
[06:35] <kostkon> cyberpolice, ;)
[06:35] <cyberpolice> onkl, what happened
[06:35] <onkl> i can't remember
[06:36] <onkl> i think i reinstalled the drivers and everything worked
[06:36] <taropalo> Ehlo
[06:38] <Zhong> 中
[06:38] <onkl> zhong
[06:38] <taropalo> any experts on nvidia and X
[06:38] <cyberpolice> zhongwen
[06:38] <cfhowlett> !cn | Zhong,
[06:38] <kudakwashe> how can i find hte package name forL System Settings -> Language Support -> Regional Formats
[06:38] <onkl> zhongwen, ma?
[06:38] <kudakwashe> how can i find hte package name for: System Settings -> Language Support -> Regional Formats
[06:38] <cyberpolice> bu
[06:39] <onkl> so incredibly bu
[06:39] <onkl> any of you guys beer fans?
[06:39] <Zhong> !cn | wo
[06:40] <Zhong> cool
[06:40] <onkl> liang ge jie jie he wo
[06:40] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: should i contact the ubuntu zimbabwe loco team instead of filing a bug report ( since i can't figure out the package name )
[06:40] <kudakwashe> ?
[06:41] <kudakwashe> there is no one in #ubuntu-zw
[06:41] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, that would probably be easiest.
[06:41] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: yeah, i'll email them
[06:43] <gorgath> I'm running a custom kernel
[06:43] <aris> hello
[06:43] <gorgath> frankenbuntu
[06:43] <gorgath> HI aris
[06:43] <aris> new in linux
[06:43] <cyberpolice> i <3 linux
[06:43] <gorgath> aris: abandon all hope all ye who wonder here
[06:44] <gorgath> linux is soul crushing
[06:44] <kudakwashe> i love gnu/linux
[06:44] <gorgath> stallman doesn't like ubuntu
[06:44] <gorgath> he calls it spyware
[06:44] <aris> is this a help "chat" for *ubuntu?
[06:44] <kudakwashe> gorgath: he says that
[06:44] <yeahnoob> Then what he like?
[06:44] <cyberpolice> yeah but he doesnt like it because its on by default
[06:44] <cfhowlett> !ot
[06:44] <cyberpolice> but you can change that
[06:44] <somsip> aris: yes - just ask your questions
[06:45] <kudakwashe> gorgath: but he realises that withough ubuntu trisquel wouldn't make much progress
[06:45] <aris> nothing yet all good, im on xubuntu now!
[06:45] <Sachiru> Could someone recommend me a good and free sFlow/NetFlow collector and analyzer that can run on Ubuntu? Basically I need something to collect both sFlow data and logs from my router (Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite) for bandwidth monitoring, ideally on a per-ip basis.
[06:45] <kudakwashe> gorgath: yeah the amazon thing etc. he went a little over board on tha tone
[06:45] <dopie> anyone here use sublimetext 2?
[06:45] <kudakwashe> gorgath: it's so easy to turn that "feature" ( read: spyware )  off
[06:45] <kudakwashe> :-)
[06:46] <kudakwashe> but i love stallman, i mean, linus torvalds wrote the linux kernel using gcc (which stallman wrote)
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: apt-cache search bandwith
[06:46] <gorgath> You can compile the kernel with clang now
[06:46] <kudakwashe> gorgath: that's true
[06:47] <gorgath> and clang is faster than gcc
[06:47] <taropalo> I have problem when login screen comes the desktop is stretched after login I go settings manager and I change resolution to something and then go back to original resolution all is good - anyone idea how to fix it?
[06:47] <Sachiru> I do not need to monitor traffic running on the Ubuntu box, I need to monitor traffic on the ROUTER
[06:47] <kudakwashe> gorgath: stallman deliberately cripples gcc in some ways for philosophical/licensing reasons
[06:48] <aris> is there a list to find channels available here?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: maybe the ##networking guys might know a solution then
[06:48] <kudakwashe> aris: here meaning on freenode?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !alis | aris
[06:48] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, please continue this OT discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <aris> #malakas
[06:49] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: yes sir, however, i'm bored with the topic so we'll let it go for now
[06:49] <aris> how do i join a different channel?
[06:49] <aris> what do i type
[06:49] <kudakwashe> aris: what client are you using
[06:49] <kudakwashe> try /join #channel
[06:49] <ObrienDave> aris, /join #channel name
[06:49] <somsip> aris: /join #malakas
[06:49] <aris> ok thanks!
[06:50] <Gatis> Hi just installed kubuntu :)
[06:50] <Gatis> I like KDE
[06:50] <kudakwashe> something like /join #gnu or /join #fsf or /join #trisquel
[06:50] <kudakwashe> perhaps
[06:50] <Gatis> KDE is smoothest cleanest DE for Linux :) Also gnome.
[06:51] <keplrdelta> Objection! XFCE
[06:51] <kudakwashe> Gatis: i like Unity, love it, can't wait to have it on my phone and tv as well ( same goes for my wife) also can't wait for Ubuntu to be completely free ( as in no blobs, proprietary software etc) but it will get there one day
[06:52] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, he gone.   long troll history
[06:52] <aris> unity is good but sometime buggish and heavy
[06:53] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: Gatis is a troll you mean?
[06:53] <aris> XFCE is the best for me!
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> aris: depends on hardware, also you can tweak unity
[06:53] <keplrdelta> I actually really like Unity, but lately Xubuntu has fixed all the problems I had with XFCE, namely compositing without vertical tearing.
[06:53] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, fair to say.  gone now.  let's all move on.
[06:53] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: I have join/part messages turned off so i can't see when someone comes and goes
[06:55] <keplrdelta> Unity works really well, it's totally complete and bug free--like OS X. With Numix theme it's even attractive. I just wish it used half as much RAM.
[06:55] <kudakwashe> keplrdelta: buy more RAM, what's wrong with having 16GB of RAM
[06:55] <kudakwashe> ?
[06:55] <keplrdelta> I can't get that much RAM into my Thinkpad
[06:56] <cfhowlett> keplrdelta, what is your RAM?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: there are other ways to tweak unity go smooth and faster
[06:56] <kudakwashe> keplrdelta: use something like xfce then
[06:57] <keplrdelta> I am using Xubuntu already.
[06:57] <taropalo> Can anyone help me with X/display issue?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> taropalo: define your problem mate
[06:58] <keplrdelta> It's still a bit glitchy. Transitions to login/logout screen, and things aren't smooth. There are ugly flashing and flickering. It's totally usable, but not perfect like Unity.
[06:59] <ObrienDave> unity, pfffffft
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: what are your system specs?
[06:59] <keplrdelta> i5, 4GB RAM, 64GB SSD
[06:59] <taropalo> login screen stretched and after login going settings manager and changing resolution something else and back then all is good
[07:00] <cfhowlett> unity likes ram.  That's a known fact.  Feed it ram or use an alternative.  OR complain, uselessly, about unity's appetite.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: you should be able to run unity fine on those specs..
[07:00] <taropalo> annoying to fix it with every login
[07:00] <keplrdelta> I can absoletly, and have
[07:00] <keplrdelta> But it uses too much RAM
[07:00] <keplrdelta> I hit swap too much
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: you can install preload, tweak swappiness, use all ssd tweaks
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: fstab tweak for ssd
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: disable eye candy in compiz settings, etc
[07:02] <kudakwashe> if you can't afford enough RAM, then don't use Unity, I can afford a lot of petrol, that's why i bought a guzzler of a sports car, some of the poorer people in my 'hood chose to buy economical fuel savers
[07:02] <kudakwashe> because they can't afford the fuel
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> kudakwashe: 4gig ram is enough for unity
[07:03] <kudakwashe> lotuspsychje: definately
[07:05] <keplrdelta> XFCE is pretty much perfect for me anyway
[07:05] <kudakwashe> Ubuntu isn't a religion, i isn't a sin to remove unity and use something else
[07:05] <keplrdelta> I just wish there was a file search like Unity
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[07:05] <kudakwashe> it isn't a sin....
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ikonia, are you actually unbanning all those addresses are is there something funky going oin?
[07:06] <ikonia> cfhowlett: correct, a little house keeping I've been laps on
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ikonia, keep up the good work, Captain!
[07:06] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: that's great, i'm setting up a computer lab for a local primary school (it will bed powered by solar ) and because the hardware is old i think i'm going for xfce
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> kudakwashe: lets keep this channel for ubuntu support
[07:07] <kudakwashe> lotuspsychje: yes sir
[07:07] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, note: lubuntu is specifically optimized for older / lower spec hardware.  xubuntu also works quite well.
[07:07] <kudakwashe> lotuspsychje: that's why i'm here
[07:07] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: thanks, i think that's what i need for this project
[07:08] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, then don't forget to document and publicize!
[07:08] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: i definately will, with photos as well
[07:08] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: i think it'll be great to have a childs first computing experience to be with ubuntu and not microsoft
[07:09] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, never can start too young!
[07:10] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: the school does have electricity, so the solar will be for backup because there are power outages (probably off topic)
[07:10] <kudakwashe> anwyway, thanks for the help, got to go
[07:11] <keplrdelta> I was finally able to give up Windows because Kerbal Space Program runs on Linux. Still can't get a plane to travel round the world on one tank of fuel.
[07:11] <_transience> much bans
[07:11] <cyberpolice> why he banning everyone
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> if you dont ban users for silly reasons, much work to unban
[07:11] <ikonia> cyberpolice: I'm not
[07:12] <ikonia> I'm removing bans, apologies for the noise
[07:12] <keplrdelta> Ubuntu made Steam easy. Is Steam OS built on Ubuntu or Debian?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !steam | keplrdelta
[07:12] <ObrienDave> ikonia, ignore the nay-sayers :)
[07:13] <ddv> most games won't even run on steam linux, waste of time imo
[07:14] <keplrdelta> I only play KSP and Skyrim these days.
[07:14] <cyberpolice> whats ksp
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> ddv: alot of games can run on ubuntu, steam, playonlinux, wine, appdb
[07:14] <ObrienDave> ddv, no one promised you 100% compatibility
[07:15] <ddv> lotuspsychje: well 95% won't
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> ddv: dont guess a number, check the playonlinux list first
[07:15] <ddv> lotuspsychje: maybe in 10 yeaers it will be something
[07:16] <ddv> lotuspsychje: i'm not guessing
[07:16] <cyberpolice> theres like 0 posts on that valve linux blog since 2 years
[07:16] <ddv> lotuspsychje: it's common sense, Microsoft will never port directx to Linux
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> ddv: ubuntu has its own ways to run games smoothly
[07:18] <ikonia> does it ?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> ddv: not all games indeed, but at least ubuntu i a safe Os
[07:18] <ddv> lotuspsychje: it won't run 95% of the games out there
[07:18] <ikonia> what's it's own way to run games ?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> anyway working times
[07:19] <ddv> lotuspsychje: seriously i'm getting a bit tired of try wine bla bla, i'm not blaming linux for this btw, it's because of the marketshare in the desktop space and game developers loving the Microsoft stack
[07:19] <ikonia> ddv: I agree with you, the wine/steam option is not realistic
[07:19] <ObrienDave> it's about the almighty dollar
[07:19] <taropalo> ddv: perhaps not love but paid
[07:22] <ddv> valve fears the windows marketplace, the linux push makes sense for them, you have to start somewhere but valve thought a lot of developer would follow, guess what they won't because of the marketshare, alienware dediced to just put windows on their silly steambox because most games don't run on linux and they don't want to wait
[07:23] <kostkon> !ot | ddv
[07:23] <ddv> :)
[07:24] <ObrienDave> dang, some familiar names in that ban list LOL
[07:24] <FailFarm> hello
[07:24] <kostkon> FailFarm, hi
[07:24] <ObrienDave> greetings & welcome
[07:25] <sargas> is there an Ubuntu distro that doesn't use pulseaudio?
[07:25] <somsip> sargas: minimal does not install it by default
[07:25] <kostkon> sargas, lubuntu i think
[07:26] <ddv> sargas: maybe you should try to fix your pulseaudio problems first
[07:26] <ObrienDave> no clue
[07:26] <sargas> ddv: I'm already trying
[07:26] <sargas> but it seems to be causing more problems
[07:26] <ObrienDave> i wish someone would fix jack audio LOL
[07:27] <sargas> ddv: that thing is related to even graphical stuff and the System Settings... WTF were they thinking?
[07:27] <ddv> sargas: well it's volunteer work so maybe you should try to bugreport or provide a patch :-)
[07:27] <FailFarm> ddv, :D
[07:28] <sargas> ddv: I am trying, it is hard to wrap my mind around pulseaudio, more knowledgeable users seems to have control over it
[07:28] <kostkon> sargas, what's the problem exactly
[07:29] <sargas> ddv: I'm grateful to the volunteers, they do a great job at making Ubuntu progress
[07:29] <sargas> kostkon: When I run a java application in Eclipse, sound stops working
[07:29] <sargas> kostkon: until I reboot the laptop
[07:30] <kostkon> sargas, ok
[07:30] <sargas> kostkon: My use case was: I had grooveshark opened on my Firefox Aurora, it was playing music. That's when I finished writing some Java code and ran it on Eclipse
[07:31] <sargas> kostkon: Eclipse took over the sound, browser got mute and started freezing, trying to run the project (it's a Game) again will give me the following error:
[07:32] <sargas> kostkon: https://gist.github.com/andradei/dd2cba2feed67fdbf7fd
[07:33] <ObrienDave> does Eclipse use Jack audio?
[07:33] <kostkon> sargas, so your code crashed. It says "Could not locate OpenAL library."
[07:33] <sargas> I believe not
[07:33] <kostkon> sargas, something to do with it?
[07:33] <sargas> kostkon: it crashed after the first time I ran it. The first time works just fine
[07:33] <sargas> kostkon: and some subsequent runs also work
[07:34] <sargas> kostkon: but Firefox, or VLC won't have sound until I reboot
[07:34] <kostkon> sargas, when it happens again, check if pulse is still running. start from there
[07:35] <sargas> kostkon: it is always running
[07:35] <sargas> kostkon: ps aux | grep pulseaudio always shows it running
[07:35] <sargas> kostkon: it is happening now
[07:36] <sargas> sargas    3910  0.6  0.0 568428  6328 ?        S<l  01:10   0:10 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[07:36] <sargas> sargas    4326  0.0  0.0  15940   920 pts/10   S+   01:35   0:00 grep --color=auto pulseaudio
[07:36] <kostkon> sargas, first of all, check in syslog for any pulseaudio errors messages
[07:36] <kostkon> sargas, then try restarting it
[07:36] <sargas> kostkon: whats the path to it on 14.04?
[07:37] <kostkon> sargas, use the system log app or e.g.  gedit /var/log/syslog
[07:39] <sargas> kostkon: does that mean something?
[07:39] <sargas> kostkon:  pulseaudio[19416]: [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at {d06dc625274a24617f38e64753f7da43}unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native, which appears to be local. Probing deeper.
[07:39] <kostkon> sargas, could be.
[07:39] <kostkon> sargas, kill and restart pulse.    pulseaudio -k   then pulseaudio -D
[07:41] <sargas> kostkon: I get: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[07:41] <sargas>  
[07:41] <sargas> kostkon: after restarting it
[07:41] <sargas> kostkon: I can't seem to understand why
[07:42] <kostkon> sargas, is your code still running. check for any left over procs
[07:43] <kostkon> sargas, in any case, close eclipse and try starting pulse again
[07:45] <sargas> kostkon: doing it
[07:45] <sargas> kostkon: after running the Java application I get this on syslog
[07:45] <sargas> Sep  8 21:47:30 sargas-zb pulseaudio[2262]: [alsa-source-92HD91BXX Analog] ratelimit.c: 3 events suppressed
[07:45] <sargas> Sep  8 21:47:30 sargas-zb pulseaudio[2262]: [alsa-source-92HD91BXX Analog] asyncq.c: q overrun, queuing locally
[07:45] <sargas> Sep  8 21:47:30 sargas-zb pulseaudio[2262]: message repeated 10 times: [ [alsa-source-92HD91BXX Analog] asyncq.c: q overrun, queuing locally]
[07:46] <kanhiay> hi all, i am using ubuntu 14.04 and i have a lenovo b480 dual core laptop. It's dvd drive never created issues on windows but on ubuntu it is ejecting automatically. I reinserted, again ejected. It is happening many times. FInally, i keep it ejected and didn't inserted it. After few minutes, i again inserted, this time DVD Drive didn't ejected.  THis happens atleast once after a restart.
[07:47] <kanhiay> what can be the problem?
[07:47] <kanhiay> there is no problem with the hardware, because it never happened on Windows
[07:47] <ikonia> kanhiay: is it a mechanical eject, or a spring loaded ?
[07:47] <kostkon> sargas, ok
[07:48] <Loopeth> cts
[07:48] <kanhiay> ikonia: I am on a laptop. Don't know, what are you talking about
[07:48] <ikonia> kanhiay: is the cdrom tray a mechanical one that motors out, or a spring loaded one that pops out
[07:48] <kanhiay> ikonia: i can also eject it using right click and eject
[07:49] <sargas> kostkon: closed eclipse, Firefox is still freezing when I reload a youtube tab to replay a video
[07:49] <kanhiay> ikonia: i think it is mechanical one,
[07:49] <kostkon> sargas, did you manage to run pulse though?
[07:50] <ikonia> kanhiay: if you can right click it on the desktop that means there is media in it and loaded
[07:50] <ikonia> kanhiay: so it can't be ejecting as you put media in, or the cdrom icon would not diplay
[07:50] <ikonia> display
[07:50] <kanhiay> ikonia: no, i was talking about Windows
[07:50] <sargas> kostkon: no
[07:50] <ikonia> kanhiay: what happens if you close the cdrom tray with no media in
[07:51] <kanhiay> ikonia: it is ejecting automatically on uBUNTU,
[07:51] <kanhiay> whether there is media or not
[07:51] <ikonia> kanhiay: that seems very unlikley
[07:51] <sargas> kostkon: I think it is because it is already running and has autoreload
[07:51] <ikonia> kanhiay: that sounds more like a mechanical fault
[07:51] <kanhiay> ikonia: no, i did the same on Windows and it worked fine
[07:51] <kanhiay> not a single time
[07:52] <ikonia> kanhiay: look in the syslog see if there is a dbus event
[07:52] <kanhiay> it never gave me error on windows, i have a dual boot system
[07:52] <kanhiay> ikonia: please give me a command to see the event
[07:54] <sargas> kostkon: as frustrating as this is, it won't keep me from programming :), I'll go rest my eyeballs and try to find a solution later
[07:54] <sargas> kostkon: Thanks you for taking the time to give me some directions
[07:55] <kostkon> sargas, np
[07:57] <kanhiay> ikonia: WHERE IS SYSLOG
[07:57] <ikonia> kanhiay: it's in the /var/log directory
[07:57] <ikonia> no need for caps
[08:06] <ddv> kanhiay: try the whereis, locate commands :)
[08:08] <kanhiay> ddv: i never used them and i am a normal user of Linux, considering it to be easy like Windows but there are some flaws
[08:09] <ddv> kanhiay: Linux will never be like Windows imo
[08:09] <kanhiay> ddv: my empty dvd drive is ejecting automatically, it never happend with me on windows and now i have a dual boot system, but it never happend with me on windows
[08:10] <iptable> kanhiay, syslog is in /var/log/syslog
[08:10] <ddv> no it's in /var/log
[08:10] <iptable> kanhiay, best way to view it is with either tail or cat tools (command line tools)
[08:10] <kanhiay> iptable: i have seen it, there are many files and it syslog file, there are lot of entries
[08:10] <kanhiay> iptable: i opened it using gedit
[08:11] <kanhiay> iptable: there are dbus entries like that  [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' (using servicehelper)
[08:11] <kanhiay> Sep  9 13:21:45 easy-linux dbus[502]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
[08:11] <kanhiay> Sep  9 13:27:43 easy-linux dbus[502]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' (using servicehelper)
[08:11] <kanhiay> Sep  9 13:27:43 easy-linux dbus[502]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.hostname1'
[08:11] <iptable> kanhiay, from command prompt run "dmesg" and see if within the last few lines you get something useful as indicator
[08:12] <iptable> I recently moved from xchat to hexchat. How do I stop Quit/joined/left messages in hexchat?
[08:15] <cynicallemon> iptable: settings > preferences > Chatting > general >hide join and part msgs
[08:16] <iptable> cynicallemon, cheers :)
[08:17] <iptable> IRC becomes much more usable soon as join/leave/quit are gone
[08:18] <cynicallemon> iptable: i find hexchat a little buggy but at least its being actively developed
[08:19] <Vladimir> I've got ubuntu servers, when I logged with ssh on the first one, I type in username and it instantly asks for the password, BUT for the other server after typing the username it wait atleast 10-15 seconds before asking for the password.
[08:19] <iptable> cynicallemon, well, I moved to it about 20 minutes ago, so my first impression in comparison to xchat is: ugly. I did like xchat looks.
[08:19] <ikonia> Vladimir: reverse dns
[08:19] <Vladimir> reverse dns?
[08:19] <ikonia> yes
[08:20] <Vladimir> so the problem is on the DNS server?
[08:20] <ikonia> the problem is the reverse dns lookup is slow
[08:20] <iptable> vlad003, ssh by default tries to look up hostname for IP. if you don't have reverse DNS, this happens
[08:20] <cynicallemon> iptable: well yeah take a little adjusting, i may go back to irssi :)
[08:20] <iptable> Vladimir, ^
[08:20] <iptable> Vladimir, edit ssh(d) configs to disable dns lookups
[08:20] <inf> I suppose it's not the proper channel for such questions, but are there any official plans on introducing ofono as a default wireless manager for network-manager, instead of modem-manager?
[08:21] <ddv> inf: you should check the mailinglists
[08:23] <MO_Handes> how to completely remove a package marked as iU ?
[08:24] <iptable> MO_Handes, apt-get purge package_name
[08:24] <iptable> MO_Handes, also, apt-get autoremove
[08:27] <wlxmhls> mint-xfce vs xubuntu, which is faster on low spec laptop?
[08:29] <ObrienDave> that question is not worth answering
[08:29] <Vladimir> I changed to UseDNS no but still it's taking a long time, I changed in the resolv.conf to search localdomain and domain localdomain but still same issue
[08:30] <wlxmhls> why not ?  mint-xfce is not slow
[08:31] <ObrienDave> !best
[08:31] <DJones> wlxmhls: You're asking in an ubuntu channel, so the only answer you'd get would be xubuntu, we couldn't say about mint
[08:31] <ObrienDave> dang, who killed ubottu
[08:31] <wlxmhls> ok
[08:32] <ObrienDave> both use xfce. therefore they should be about the same performance wise
[08:37] <iptable> wlxmhls, both are same speed performance wise
[08:56] <ruby_on_tails> i am trying to create a screencast, but no matter what app or settings i use the screencast is never as good as teh real screen, why? i am using  recordmydesktop atm
[08:58] <ObrienDave> because your taking a native graphic image and casting it as a JPEG or something with similar compression. it will never look as good as your screen. afaik
[08:59] <tonys> hi
[09:00] <iptable> cynicallemon, any idea how in hexchat I would filter out "is now known as"
[09:01] <ObrienDave> turn off nick changes
[09:01] <iptable> yes, where?
[09:01] <ObrienDave> chatting, general
[09:01] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: how does the screen make it better?
[09:02] <cynicallemon> iptable: yeah same place as per hide/part, next tickbox down
[09:02] <ruby_on_tails> i am ready to use any format or any app or any thing to make it look as good as the screen is that possible? how do they do HD videos of animations from after effects, etc?
[09:02] <iptable> ObrienDave, nope. only join/leave there...
[09:02] <ObrienDave> ruby_on_tails, other way around, your screencast will NEVER look as good as your native screen
[09:02] <ObrienDave> iptable, which version?
[09:03] <iptable> ObrienDave, 2.9.6
[09:03] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: "other way around" means?
[09:03] <ObrienDave> iptable, get 2.10.1 in repos
[09:03] <ObrienDave> the screen does NOT make it better
[09:03] <iptable> ObrienDave, it's not in 14.04 repos, no? I'm running latest in there
[09:04] <ObrienDave> ip
[09:04] <ObrienDave> iptable, http://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html
[09:05] <iptable> oh... I'd rather avoid doing that if possible
[09:05] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: hmm, thats sad, i am making a screencast which really needs 100% details
[09:05] <zetheroo1> I have Ubuntu installed on a server with 4 HDD bays, two of which have disks for data. I would like to remove them from server without rebooting or shutting down the server - is this possible?
[09:05] <ObrienDave> iptable, ok fine
[09:06] <ObrienDave> !info hexchat
[09:06] <iptable> ObrienDave, cynicallemon found it. Settings => Text Events. Find "nick change" event and remove the text field from it. Issue fixed.
[09:06] <iptable> any notification can be changed/adjusted and disabled there
[09:07] <ObrienDave> cool, thanks
[09:08] <cynicallemon> hexchat need some work before its up to xchats standard, the auto join channel is buggy
[09:08] <MrChopVG> Hi I was wondering if i could get some help with pwmconfig
[09:09] <ObrienDave> everything needs work to come up to something elses standards
[09:09] <iptable> well, I don't use autojoin channels, so that's ok ;) My ZNC bouncer pushes that to my client automatically
[09:10] <MrChopVG> Any help is welcome. im new to Ubuntu and am having trouble editing the Pwmconfig file
[09:10] <ObrienDave> i don't have 95% of the problems 95% of the users have
[09:10] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, yeah, but you're ... "special" ...
[09:11] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: http://pasteboard.co/4sWasel.png original http://pasteboard.co/4sMRTPz.png video is there anything i can do? :( i will become sad if i cant
[09:11] <cynicallemon> iptable: ok, i configure a list for auto join, save and when i repopened hexchat they had gone!
[09:11] <MrChopVG> I got 99 problems but a cooling fan aint one
[09:11] <ObrienDave> not as special as cfhowlett ;P
[09:11] <MrChopVG> well nevermind i guess it is the problem
[09:12] <iptable> cynicallemon, sounds like my "pay for parking" phone app :D I configure all the locations for auto parking, come back and have a ticket :/
[09:12] <cynicallemon> iptable:  had to manually alter the config file, J = ....... for each channel i wanted to join
[09:12] <cynicallemon> iptable: lol
[09:12] <MrChopVG> Has anyone messed with their pwmconfig file?
[09:13] <ObrienDave> ruby_on_tails, ok, the second is a little fuzzy. not unreadable
[09:13] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: its a design tutorial i cant afford it
[09:13] <ruby_on_tails> there are other colors in the video which are very very horrible
[09:13] <ruby_on_tails> :(
[09:13] <MrChopVG> Anyone at all...
[09:15] <ObrienDave> ruby, i don't know of any screencast software that is 100% accurate. which one are you using?
[09:15] <MrChopVG> With the 8 billion people in this channel i figured someone knew how to do this
[09:15] <ObrienDave> only 1650 ;P
[09:15] <ObrienDave> ruby_on_tails, i don't know of any screencast software that is 100% accurate. which one are you using?
[09:16] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: Do you control your fan speed?
[09:16] <ruby_on_tails> the screenshot is from ffmpeg
[09:16] <ObrienDave> nope
[09:16] <MrChopVG> well shizz
[09:16] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: i used this command: ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1024x768 -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq output.mkv
[09:17] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, BIOS controls my fan
[09:17] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, late to this conversation, but maybe I can help.  What exactly is your goal?
[09:17] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: Ahh..
[09:17] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, ruby_on_tails wants 100% screencast accuracy
[09:18] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: i am making a design tutorial, the text is getting blurred, colors a bit distorted, cant afford it :(
[09:18] <ruby_on_tails> MrChopVG:  http://pasteboard.co/4sWasel.png original http://pasteboard.co/4sMRTPz.png video
[09:18] <MrChopVG> So apperiantly there is this bug where fan control files are messed up but where it says there is text to be replaced mine is completely different..
[09:18] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, gigo.  set your screen resolution as high as you can.  plan for some degradation.  record and edit.
[09:19] <MrChopVG> ruby_on_tails: whydid you send that to me?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, as ObrienDave stated; no 100% solution ... but you can still do a creditable job
[09:19] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, where is that file located?
[09:19] <ruby_on_tails> MrChopVG: sorry it was for cfhowlett
[09:20] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, seen it.
[09:20] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig
[09:20] <MrChopVG> ruby_on_tails: its all good
[09:20] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: how does after effects videos look so awesome?
[09:20] <rushed> is there an option to override sshd’s internal-sftp + ChrootDirectory requirement that the user not be able to write to their root?
[09:20] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, i don't have that file
[09:21] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: gigo means?
[09:21] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: im trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[09:21] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, garbage in, garbage out.  start with the best source media possible.
[09:21] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: my laptop has a heating issue and shuts down randomly
[09:22] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: what does the source mean in this case? the low resolution?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, source media = audio, video, graphic, whatever you're working with.  in your case: video.  1024 x 768 is your graphic card max setting?
[09:23] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, a good cleaning, blowing out, vacuuming is probably in order first
[09:24] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: already did that. took it all apart. this laptop is like 5 years old though so it has some issues
[09:25] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: 1360*768 is the max i have, the video content is basically the browser, no sound
[09:26] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, i don't understand 'fancontrol' or 'pwmconfig'. i would be very hesitant to suggest anything along those lines
[09:27] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, may I suggest "recordmydesktop" app?  You can select the screen real estate you want to capture and set video resolution quite easily and intuitively.
[09:27] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: i used it, the result is almost the same as the blurred thing you saw. i need the full screen though
[09:27] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: do you have any suggestions? beside just replacing it?
[09:28] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: my RMD settings were 100% video quality, 30fps
[09:29] <MrChopVG> my idle temp is 77...
[09:29] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, 1366?  not 1366?  I'd test your recording with 1366x768 settings.  My $0.02
[09:30] <littlebit> hi people, I have slow transfer and response speeds when accessing my android phone via usb
[09:31] <littlebit> can someone help?
[09:31] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: i just recorded the full screen 1360*768, there wasnt any specific setting in RMD for it. Is that what you mean?
[09:31] <frib> is there a pdf application that will let me highlight and modify pdf documents?
[09:31] <RoBo_V> if we queue command like "cmnd1 && cmnd2 && cmnd3" does it mean like when cmnd1 finishes then cmnd and so on... ?
[09:31] <frib> RoBo_V, yes
[09:32] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, && means continue if previous command was successful
[09:33] <MrChopVG> Is shutdown at 90 degrees?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, I'm questioning the 1360 number specifically.  My screentop resolution goes to 1366x768.  I accidentally set 1360 once and it was indeed degraded.  thus my suspicion that 1360 is indeed the max.  just sayin.
[09:33] <RoBo_V> Thanks frib , ObrienDave
[09:34] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: let me try it
[09:34] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, shutdown temp is based on your system. different for others
[09:34] <k1l_> MrChopVG: which cpu/gpu is it? are you useing a lot of cpu time? what gives top for load?
[09:35] <acr> hi bubuntu
[09:35] <MrChopVG> Hey ObrienDave thank you for the help, much appriciated.
[09:36] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, my acpitz-0 are 136.4F
[09:36] <MrBar> how to install windows?
[09:36] <MrChopVG> k1l_: im kinda new to ubuntu i dont really understand what you said... sorry
[09:37] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: 1366 doesnt work at all with ffmpeg
[09:37] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, eh!! always worked for me ...
[09:37] <MrBar> why ubuntu so ugly?
[09:37] <ikonia> MrBar: if you don't like it - don't use it
[09:37] <cfhowlett> MrBar, you're in the wrong channel.  go to ##windows
[09:37] <ikonia> MrBar: basically - stop trolling
[09:37] <MrBar> ikonia, what to use?
[09:37] <ikonia> MrBar: any desktop or OS you want
[09:38] <ikonia> MrBar: there are lots of options, use what you like
[09:38] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: im currently siting at 158F
[09:38] <MrBar> ikonia, ok
[09:38] <Abhijit> MrBar, dos will be best for you.
[09:38] <k1l_> MrChopVG: which CPU and video card is it? is it a laptop? some CPU chips are known to produce a lot of heat
[09:39] <k1l_> MrChopVG: look at "top" and tell what the load average  is (3 numbers). and see if something in the list is constantly using a lot of cpu%
[09:40] <MrChopVG> k1l_: its a Toshiba satellite a665
[09:41] <MrChopVG> k1l_: also cpu is used most by either chrome compiz or skype but its like 5% each
[09:41] <k1l_> sounds like a consumer laptop with much power (=producing lots of heat) build in. so i am not surprised
[09:42] <MrChopVG> k1l_: do you know a way to override the cooling fan?
[09:42] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, you might try a laptop cooler pad that sits underneath. $15 bucks at walmart
[09:43] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: alright thanks.
[09:43] <k1l_> that depends on the make and exact model of that laptop. it seems a well common problem with that sort of laptop
[09:43] <k1l_> MrChopVG: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692883  see this
[09:44] <allstarsnorks2> hi guys. how do i remove Xubuntu desktop without removing all its dependencies?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> allstarsnorks2, what is your end goal?
[09:45] <allstarsnorks2> i have installed pantheon desktop. I just want it to be default when I make it into a .iso image using remastersys.
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !remastersys | allstarsnorks2,
[09:45] <cfhowlett> allstarsnorks2, remastersys has been abandoned ... FYI.
[09:45] <MrChopVG> k1l_: I have been trying that but there is a pwmconfig file bu that this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737 is supposed to fix but my file doesnt match up with theirs
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | allstarsnorks2
[09:47] <cynicallemon> remastersys has been known to work with 14.04 even though its no longer developed
[09:48] <allstarsnorks2> how do i get rid of the Xubuntu Session and Xfce session off my login screen?
[09:48] <k1l_> MrChopVG: the files differ from used hardware and from ubuntu release using
[09:48] <k1l_> MrChopVG: the thread is from 2005 and updated 2007
[09:48] <ObrienDave> allstarsnorks2, sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <MrChopVG> k1l_: what would you recomend?
[09:49] <allstarsnorks2> ObrienDave, that's what I did but it still gave me an option for Xubuntu and Xfce
[09:49] <ObrienDave> allstarsnorks2, and the link cfhowlett sent you
[09:49] <MrBar> allstarsnorks2, why u use pantheon? it really awesome?
[09:49] <k1l_> MrChopVG: the thread i linked got a howto in the last answer
[09:51] <MrChopVG> k1l_: unfortunately it still requires a pwmconfig file which to my knowledge is still bugged
[09:51] <ynon1> hi
[09:52] <k1l_> MrChopVG: please read what it written there and dont just blindly copy&paste the commands
[09:52] <ynon1> i need technical supports!
[09:52] <frib> is there any pdf reader that allows you to modify documents?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !ask | ynon1,
[09:52] <cfhowlett> frib, depends what you need to modify.
[09:52] <MrChopVG> k1l_: a little insulting..
[09:52] <frib> cfhowlett, i just want to highlight text and save doc
[09:53] <ynon1> ask!
[09:53] <ynon1> !ask
[09:53] <k1l_> MrChopVG: sorry, but i dont know what your actual problem is right there. i cant see any comments in that thread or in that linked howto that something with pwmconfig will not work.
[09:54] <ynon1> my wireless connection is slow on ubuntu 14.04
[09:54] <MrChopVG> k1l_: i followed the instructions and when i get to the sudo pwmconfig command this is the error There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[09:54] <ttr> I'm experiencing some weird bug I can't find any references on the web for: On my Dell laptop, my keyboard is rendered useless at times because keyboard input is randomly removed. It's hard to describe but resembles somebody hitting your backspace or escape key constantly while you're typing.
[09:54] <ttr> Does anyone have pointers how to fix this?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> frib, PITA but gimp can do that
[09:55] <ObrienDave> frib, Evince does not seem to adhere to Adobe's security very well ;P
[09:55] <ynon1> i tried the DNS 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 but no way
[09:55] <ttr> it's happening every now and then, but often enough to be a major nuisance.
[09:55] <frib> cfhowlett, yea, that's really too heavy
[09:55] <frib> ObrienDave, if i understand correctly that means it would work?
[09:55] <ynon1> hi i'm here
[09:55] <k1l_> MrChopVG: lm-sensors installed and started?
[09:56] <MrChopVG> k1l_: correct
[09:56] <ObrienDave> frib, no guarantees
[09:56] <frib> ObrienDave, it's not a gui application is it
[09:56] <ObrienDave> yup
[09:56] <frib> ObrienDave, i can't get it to open
[09:56] <ObrienDave> why?
[09:56] <ynon1> i'm asking how to speed up wifi on ubuntu 14.04
[09:56] <ynon1> any help
[09:56] <frib> something about X server
[09:57] <frib> could not open X display No protocol specified
[09:57] <k1l_> MrChopVG: try "sudo service module-init-tools start"
[09:57] <ObrienDave> frib, sorry, i know nothing about x server
[09:57] <frib> ObrienDave, me neither
[09:57] <frib> ObrienDave, ok i found a gtk version that wasn't installed
[09:57] <MrChopVG> k1l_: it reads module-init-tools: unrecognized service
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> anyone help me... I can't extract open office.tar.gz .
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> tar -xvf Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> tar: Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[09:58] <MrBar> how to buy ubuntu?
[09:58] <frib> error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
[09:58] <frib> what should that variable be set as?
[09:58] <Ynon> ubuntu is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:58] <MrBar> Ynon, what if i need buy
[09:58] <ikonia> MrBar: you dno't
[09:58] <ikonia> MrBar: look - final warning
[09:59] <ikonia> MrBar: stop trolling
[09:59] <Ynon> well
[09:59] <MrBar> ikonia, ok ok sorry
[09:59] <cfhowlett> ikonia, "No half measures." ... Mike, Breaking Bad
[09:59] <ddv> cyber_jomblo: what are you even trying to accomplish? please use a ppa if you want the newest version
[09:59] <Ynon> it's just for big companies i think!!!!
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Ynon, you're wrong
[09:59] <Ynon> no
[09:59] <Ynon> ubuntu is an open source not like win
[10:00] <frib> ObrienDave, evince doesn't appear to have highlighting functionality
[10:00] <ObrienDave> cyber_jomblo, install LibreOffice
[10:00] <kostkon> MrBar, you can buy dvds from here http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[10:00] <frib> ObrienDave, i think okular might work
[10:00] <Ynon> why buy it MrBar
[10:01] <k1l_> Ynon: dont mind the troll. just carry on
[10:01] <k1l_> MrChopVG: did you install toshset package?
[10:01] <Ynon> no
[10:01] <cfhowlett> Ynon, what exactly is your support question?
[10:01] <Ynon> well
[10:02] <MrChopVG> k1l_:  i dont think so.. i am really new.. sorry
[10:02] <k1l_> MrChopVG: then do install it. and reboot and see if that works then
[10:02] <k1l_> maybe it already works with better fan control then
[10:03] <MrChopVG> k1l_: the command would be sudo apt-get toshset ?
[10:03] <k1l_> sudo apt-get install packagename
[10:03] <Ynon> my wifi connestion is slow on ubuntu 14.04
[10:03] <Ynon> firefox too
[10:04] <MrChopVG> k1l_: it says required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[10:05] <MrBar> i really hate f*cking updates notifications, who hate it too?
[10:05] <Ynon> updates is very important
[10:05] <cfhowlett> MrBar, no profanity, no implied profanity.  you KNOW better.
[10:06] <cfhowlett> ikonia, enough rope | MrBar
[10:06] <ObrienDave> adios MrBar
[10:06] <Ynon> so why linux is barely none virus
[10:06] <Ynon> the answer is
[10:06] <cfhowlett> Ynon, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:07] <ddv> I never had a virus on Windowseither
[10:07] <ddv> pebcak
[10:07] <MrBar> heh
[10:07] <Ynon> cfhowlett u r kicking me off !!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:07] <ikonia> sorry for the slow response
[10:07] <cfhowlett> ikonia, thanks.
[10:08] <cfhowlett> Ynon, no I was suggesting you take your NON-SUPPORT question to the chitchat channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <Ynon> did u read my question  cfhowlett
[10:08] <k1l_> MrChopVG: i dont have that laptop and i dont see what you see so please pastebin all output so people in here could help
[10:08] <halt2> Hi All, I have a BT mouse and keyboard, but they keep droping the connection when I do not use them, which will be not an issue if they are reconnecting when i stat to use it again but it does not, any suggestion what should i hack to make it work ? as it should be ?
[10:09] <MrChopVG> k1l_: alright thanks for the flep
[10:09] <MrChopVG> help
[10:09] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ynon, I did.
[10:10] <Ynon> thanks
[10:10] <Ynon> maybe .. i'm sorry
[10:11] <VincentD> I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 14.04 to be able to play with Docker.io, but I'm running a 32-bit kernel. I'm working on a netbook with a AMD C-70 CPU which should be 64-bit according to lscpu and the fact that I see lm in /proc/cpuinfo. So I've made an AMD64 Kubuntu USB drive and tried to boot it, but it says the kernel image is invalid. Does this mean the download of the ISO was messed up or that my CPU is incompatible?
[10:12] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | VincentD, did you 1. verify the .iso?   2. verify the usb?
[10:13] <VincentD> cfhowlett: Nope, I didn't. Thanks for the info!
[10:13] <cfhowlett> VincentD, happy2help
[10:19] <VincentD> cfhowlett: I grabbed the image with wget image ; halt instead of using && last night and the internet connection broke up. 443M was missing. That was pretty stupid, mystery solved ;)
[10:19] <cfhowlett> VincentD, torrents.  always.  IMHO.  torrents.
[10:20] <ObrienDave> VincentD, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[10:20] <cfhowlett> VincentD, because torrents will apply and verify md5sum to each bit as it transfers.  much more robust error checking and you can turn on/turn off, start later as needed.
[10:20] <VincentD> cfhowlett: I'm working on a hotspot network in France blocking everything but port 80 :S
[10:21] <cfhowlett> VincentD, no sympathy.  I'm in Beijing.  ALL the cool sites are blocked.  *but torrents works!*
[10:21] <ObrienDave> Ynon, so, what was your Ubuntu wireless support question again, please?
[10:21] <vitimiti> Hi
[10:21] <VincentD> cfhowlett: Really? I didn't try torrents, but I just figured it wouldn't work. That would be great!
[10:29] <Joe_knock> Hello. When I type sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, it says the latest version is installed, but when I try to access it from localhost, I get a 404.
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, access "it"?
[10:31] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: Access phpmyadmin from the browser. localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php
[10:31] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, I'd guess you configured localhost incorrectly
[10:33] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: Perhaps it is worth mentioning that I updated PHP and Apache recently too. They were updated from the PHP ppa
[10:33]  * ikonia shakes head
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, yeah that's worth mentioning.  :)  I don't PPA so best I go back to lurking now.
[10:33] <ikonia> Joe_knock: what does the apache logs show when you try to hit the page
[10:34] <ikonia> I suspect the re-write/re-direct rule for the 2.2 apache package is no longer valid in 2.4
[10:38] <Joe_knock> ikonia: How do I check the latest logs? I can't seem to get the latest info from the error log txt file.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: its a single line, so no need to pastebin
[10:46] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: The error.log file is showing the last error at 1+ hours while I keep hitting refresh on 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/index.php
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:48] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-on-ubuntu-12-04
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: what are you wanting to use phpmyadmin to achieve?
[10:50] <MrElendig> only way to secure phpmyadmin is to not install it in the first place
[10:50] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: I just wanted it for a simple interface to LAMP stack.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: or use iptables to only allow certain MAC addresses to connect to it :-)
[10:50] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: no, just no
[10:51] <Joe_knock> my /var/www/ shows phpmyadmin there weirdly.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: can't do it via SSH?
[10:51] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: mac filtering just gives you a false sense of security, it is worse than doing nothing
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: it's not great but its something
[10:51] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: spoofing the mac is trivial
[10:51] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Local dev machine here. Not sure I understand the need for SSH here?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: but the attacker would need to know the exact mac to spoof
[10:52] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: if you want any kind of security use a vpn if you need to connect to phpmyadmin from the outside world
[10:52] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: that is actually really easy to find
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: configuration of LAMP can be done via SSH
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: its over LAN so "outside world" isn't a factor here
[10:53] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: well, as a general rule: never trust your lan either
[10:53] <Joe_knock> I wonder if my Apache conf file is lacking the phpmyadmin include :-/
[10:53] <MrElendig> specially if it is wifi
[10:53] <MrElendig> and really, phpmyadmin isn't that usefull in the first place
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: did the guide I gave help?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: it's for lazy users imho
[10:54] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: PHP isn't part of my main stack nowadays, so I need it for convenience sake.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: I'd ask in #apache , may help too. Are there any recent YouTube videos?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: eg http://youtu.be/WPGCcRxUoOk
[11:00] <Joe_knock> I think I have version incompatibilities
[11:04] <Joe_knock> Thanks ActionParsnip. I went to the #apache channel now. localhost/phpmyadmin does work now, but it forces me to open a phtml page now.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: did you add a PPA by any chance?
[11:05] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Yes. I added the PHP PPA to get an updated version of PHP.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: then that will be why
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: the version of phpmyadmin has been tested to work with the version of php in the repos
[11:06] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: So there is definitely conflicts then.
[11:06] <Joe_knock> aah, I thought so.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: with the version made by "some guy online" yes
[11:07] <uhlm> how do i review apps in software center ?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: the one made by the Ubuntu team is known to work....so you may get issues using a different php which we have no knowledge of its compilation
[11:08] <Joe_knock> uhlm: You need an account firstly. Then you can write reviews in the software centre itself.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: if you want to stray from the official repos then results cannot be assured
[11:08] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: I'll try updating phpmyadmin from source.
[11:08] <uhlm> Joe_knock: so if i am on Mint i can't?
[11:08] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Agreed. This issue is definitely self-imposed.
[11:09] <uhlm> (unless i get the ubuntu software center=
[11:09] <Joe_knock> uhlm: You can :-) Mint uses the same software.
[11:09] <Tim100> is gsmartcontrol tool accurate and good for monitoring hdd?
[11:09] <Joe_knock> You can probably install ubuntu software centre on mint too.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> uhlm: mint is not supported here
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !mint | uhlm
[11:10] <uhlm> i know thx
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> uhlm: so why ask if you know?
[11:11] <dearcarr0t> anyone there please?
[11:11] <uhlm> because i was trying to rate an app on the site apps.ubuntu.com/
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: many :-)
[11:11] <uhlm> and there was no option on apps.ubuntu.com/ to let me review the app.
[11:11] <uhlm> not really that strange
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> uhlm: did you log in to the service?
[11:12] <uhlm> i did..
[11:12] <Tim100> can someone suggest a good hdd smart montorng tool for ubuntu?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[11:13] <dearcarr0t> When I use boot-repair ,I failed to fix my boot menu.Once reboot,it comes  the minibash of grub.
[11:13] <dearcarr0t> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8298888/
[11:13] <dearcarr0t> Here is the boot-info.
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: I fix that stuff using chroot from liveCD
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: omgubuntu has a guide named "sticking it to grub"
[11:14] <dearcarr0t> I am just talking  with my live CD.
[11:14] <Joe_knock> uhlm: It may be possible to rate it online too.
[11:15] <dearcarr0t> I followed the steps.But it didn't work.
[11:15] <uhlm> dont think so either.. so be it
[11:15] <uhlm> thx
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: bring up the guide, follw the steps
[11:18] <dearcarr0t> ActionParsnip: Ifailed many times.
[11:19] <Tim100> ActionParsnip so this smartmontools accurate ? i mean does it displays correct data regardng hdd?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: did you mount the Ubuntu system partition?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: yes, whyever would it not?
[11:19] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i asked because its really small, just 2 mb?
[11:20] <Tim100> ActionParsnip is it just like gnome disks?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: it uses libs you already have as well as the kernel
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: don't let install size fool you
[11:20] <dearcarr0t> ActionParsnip: I shall have another try and mount the Ubuntu.Thx!
[11:20] <Tim100> ActionParsnip ok , thanks for the link
[11:20] <ObrienDave> Tim100, you're used to Windows applications, yes?
[11:21] <Tim100> ObrienDave on windows i was using crystaldiskinfo, so it though if this smartmontools is equally good or not,
[11:21] <Tim100> *i
[11:21] <Tim100> thought*
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: if an ap needs lib-a and lib-b and lib-c and you have an app already installed which uses lib-c, why would you need to reinstall and redownload lib-c, its already in place
[11:22] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i see
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: this saves bandwidth and storage, each lib is also only loaded once into RAM when used but can be accessed by multiple running applivcatioms. This saves RAM
[11:22] <Tim100> its just so small, i will download it and see if it works better
[11:23] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i see, thanks for the info
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: using shared lib like this allows one update to affect all programs that use it, very efficient
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: windows doesnt use this model much and is wasteful
[11:24] <Tim100> ActionParsnip is this sufficient to detects even minor hdd faults, like bad sectors, reallocated sects, or a bad spin up time etc?
[11:24] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i see
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: hdparm may help too
[11:24] <Tim100> ActionParsnip hdparm?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !info hdparm
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: it has a test feature too
[11:26] <Tim100> ok , i downloaded it and its workinjg fine ,though this gsmartcontrol has test feature too, what;s the difference in this and hdparm then?
[11:27] <Tim100> ActionParsnip also its saying hdparm is already installed on my system
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: different features. ?.
[11:27] <Tim100> ok
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: then read the man page and use it if it suits your ned
[11:28] <Tim100> does it comes as a default with gsmartcontrol? ActionParsnip
[11:28] <ObrienDave> Tim100, the main reason windows installs are so large is they place ALL of the files required in the archive for many different versions of windows. hence the file size.
[11:30] <ObrienDave> in Linux, you only need to D/L what is required to get your app working. shared libraries is what makes the files so small
[11:30] <newbsduser> how can i get df -kh output of which disk has biggest size?
[11:30] <Tim100>  ObrienDave i see
[11:31] <k1l> newbsduser: why dont you look in fdisk?
[11:32] <ObrienDave> Tim100, look in the windows manifest folder sometime. OMG thousands of folders and files for the same or similar versions of DLLs and such. freaking nightmare
[11:33] <Tim100> ObrienDave i see
[11:33] <Tim100> also windows uses registry system,s which are prone to errors
[11:36] <ObrienDave> point being, don't let the file size fool you into think the software is inferior. on the contrary, most apps are much more robust and since most code is open source, it can be examined by anyone at anytime
[11:36] <ObrienDave> *thinking
[11:37] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, "don't let the file size fool you ...".  I say that ALL the time.
[11:37] <Tim100>  ObrienDave i see, anyways thanks a lot for the info, i appreciate it
[11:37] <karab44> hello
[11:37] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, and someday i'll listen to you ;P
[11:37] <karab44> how to disable specified system keyboard shortcuts on particular app?
[11:37] <VincentD> I've just installed Kubuntu 14.04 64-bit. The live  USB key works perfect, but when the kernel loads after showing GRUB, I only get static on the screen. How can I  debug and solve this?
[11:39] <ObrienDave> static? meaning a garbled screen?
[11:40] <VincentD> ObrienDave: Yes. Dark in the middle, colored lines to the left and right sides.
[11:41] <ObrienDave> hmm, that does not sound like a sync issue
[11:42] <ObrienDave> can you upload a photo somewhere so we can see?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:42] <ObrienDave> hey BluesKaj
[11:42] <BluesKaj> hi ObrienDave
[11:46] <karab44> I have the same shortcuts in my app that's in the Unity. How to disable Unity shortcuts for the time I use the app ?
[11:47] <karab44> is it possible to make active app/window exception?
[11:49] <acer> RE
[11:51] <karab44> I don't believe there's no people that use ubuntu for professional purpose
[11:52] <k1l> karab44: of course, no one can use ubuntu for professional purpose m(
[11:54] <k1l> karab44: why not change either unitys or "your apps" shortcut?
[11:55] <karab44> awwww you're starting to invent
[11:56] <vitimiti> I do use it for professional purpose and for free time purposes
[11:56] <iptable> there are lots of companies using ubuntu for professional purposes, as server and desktop actually
[11:56] <karab44> I don't want any compromises. I want to have unity shortcuts after I leave my app just right there where they are
[11:57] <geudrik> Wait, did he just say that there isn't anyone that uses ubuntu in production?
[11:57] <karab44> I want my app's shortcuts right where they are just when I launch it. It's so simple to understand for anyone who works with tools.
[11:58] <karab44> geudrik: if it's not configurable it's not comfortable then... :/
[11:58] <trijntje> karab44, what do you mean 'apps shortcuts right where they are' ?
[11:58] <karab44> I mean if it's ALT+CTRL+ARROW I want it ALT+CTRL+ARROW
[11:59] <geudrik> I think he means that someimes when you launch an app in Unity, the icon in the dock isn't the process that launches (so you end up with with a 'new' icon on top of the one you've locked to the dock). I've seen this happen with programs that utilize their own launcher
[11:59] <Ben64> then you need to change one of those
[11:59] <vitimiti> I understand he wants to keep his app's shortcuts and unity's shortcuts, but they interfere, so he wants unity's shortcuts to be disabled when, and only if the app is open. Am I right?
[11:59] <geudrik> karab44: that's 100% different than making the statement that nobody uses Ubuntu professionally
[11:59] <trijntje> karab44, ok, but some shortcuts are already taken by unity, so applications cant use it unless you disable those
[12:00] <k1l> karab44: changing desktop shortcuts doesnt make sense at all. its the app that is having to change the shortcuts
[12:00] <karab44> geudrik: stop arguing please.
[12:00] <karab44> k1l: that's rubbish
[12:00] <k1l> geudrik: he was just ranting, because its not all like he lonely wants to have it
[12:00] <k1l> karab44: no, that is common sense.
[12:00] <trijntje> karab44, why don't you just disable those shortcuts in unity if it bothers you?
[12:00] <geudrik> ^ that
[12:01] <karab44> it is not surprising then there's no big apps on ubuntu, sorry but this is true.
[12:01] <Ben64> that makes absolutely no sense
[12:02] <geudrik> o.O wat
[12:02] <k1l> if you want to (lets say) move a window to a different desktop it makes sense that this shortcut stays the same all the time. and not changes like which app got the focus now or is running.
[12:02] <trijntje> karab44, why don't you disable the unity shortcuts you don't like?
[12:02] <karab44> this is a simple thing - add exception for particular app
[12:02] <karab44> trijntje: because I want it damnit
[12:02] <k1l> karab44: stop blaming your bad concept on ubuntu. that makes you look not clever and not ubuntu.
[12:02] <geudrik> karab44: so do it? change some shortcuts and fix it.
[12:03] <karab44> geudrik: that's rubbish, not a solution
[12:03] <trijntje> karab44, ok, then if you want the shortcuts unity uses, don't disable them.
[12:03] <Ben64> this is a simple thing - don't pick existing keyboard shortcuts for your app
[12:03] <geudrik> -.-
[12:03] <karab44> I was working with many other systems and such conception was obvious but here I faced a wall.
[12:04] <trijntje> karab44, unity has a higher priority for catching keyboard shortcuts then other apps, that makes sense right? Imagine in windows if every app could steal the windows key or ctrl+alt+delete
[12:04] <iptable> karab44, you are being rude and agressive. I'm afraid most users are happy with the way things work and can be adjusted, therefore, being the only one out, we have given you workarounds that suit YOUR particular use.
[12:04] <geudrik> karab44: to give you the benefit of the doubt, can you try to explain again what your issue is? As clearly as possible
[12:05] <Tim100> is there a way to put desktop icon for an app using terminal?
[12:05] <iptable> karab44, and what trijntje said. In other OSes most system shortcuts cannot be 1. adjusted, 2. disabled, 3. controlled, 4. assigned to other uses. This is by design. alt+tab has to work no matter what app is foregrounding if it's configured as windows changer chortcut.
[12:05] <trijntje> Tim100, yes, I think alacarte can do that
[12:05] <geudrik> Tim100: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182700/how-to-make-a-clickable-terminal-shortcut-on-the-desktop
[12:06] <iptable> Tim100, you want to put a shortcut or add icon to a shortcut on the desktop?
[12:06] <ObrienDave> nap time. l8rs
[12:06] <Tim100> iptable yes
[12:06] <Tim100> usng terminal though
[12:06] <Tim100> *using
[12:06] <geudrik> Tim100: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182700/how-to-make-a-clickable-terminal-shortcut-on-the-desktop
[12:06] <iptable> Tim100, which one is it? add icon to existing one, or create new one?
[12:07] <geudrik> ^ terminal, use vim/nano/what ever
[12:07] <karab44> iptable: because I was asking about something specific.
[12:07] <iptable> karab44, something that is not present in current system because no one else wants it.
[12:07] <Tim100> iptable existing one
[12:07] <iptable> Tim100, shortcuts are just simple text files (.desktop extension). You can cat them to see what they look like. Create your own.
[12:07] <karab44> iptable: because there's no maya and 3dsmax users
[12:08] <iptable> Tim100, ok, for that, edit the .desktop file and add the "Icon=..." line in the file
[12:08] <iptable> Tim100, the Icon= needs to point to absolute path of the icon file (e.g. png file)
[12:08] <Tim100> iptable ok
[12:08] <Tim100> thanks
[12:08] <cfhowlett> karab44, there are plenty of foss alternatives, but if your mind and heart are set on maya/3dsmax NO ONE is stopping from jumping to windows.  do what works for you!
[12:09] <iptable> karab44, 3dsmax exists for ubuntu? I thought it's windows app only
[12:09] <karab44> iptable: that's the point
[12:09] <vitimiti> Tim100, you can change the icon by right clicking the desktop file -> Properties -> Click on the icon -> Choose the new icon -> Accept
[12:09] <Ben64> maya i know has a linux version, not sure how that relates to the question at hand though
[12:09] <maksimkaaa> hello, I am trying to decipher this error after a fresh ubuntu 14 upgrade, googling says it is a hardware issue, but I am not convinced since all other OS'es I installed do not report any issues on boot.. http://pastebin.com/sWuphd5d anyone knows what this means exactly ?
[12:10] <enchilado> u/43
[12:10] <iptable> karab44, to turn things around, if you asked Microsoft to make available launching linux apps on Windows and defining custom windows shortcuts to them, they would laugh at you. Linux has wine, that's true. It also has virtualbox, that's true. for windows 3d software, either use those with thei compatibility issues or boot to windows
[12:11] <karab44> okay, I am a bit dissapointed but first thing I'm gonna do is disabling some unity shortcuts... they simply interferee with my apps :/
[12:12] <Ben64> karab44: yep, thats the solution
[12:12] <karab44> iptable: what are you talkin about? you run windows on virtualbox
[12:12] <iptable> maksimkaaa, most likely bad HD and you just upgraded to a bad sector... run smart tests on hard drive first
[12:12] <karab44> so no matter what it's still windows
[12:12] <geudrik> is anyone here running 3.17-rc4 and having issues? Specifically, coming from 3.13.0 on 14.04
[12:12] <iptable> karab44, yes, and I did tell you that this is a possibility. Virtualbox 3d acceleration emulator is far from perfect though.
[12:13] <iptable> karab44, if you disable mouse integration in virtualbox btw, 99% of unity shortcuts will no longer work when you are pinned to the VM with your mouse.
[12:14] <_1_Jan-Eric> nerds!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:14] <karab44> That wasn't on my mind. I meant that if some system is more comfortable for professional users, then there is a reason to make professional apps for it.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> _1_Jan-Eric, wrong channel.
[12:14] <iptable> karab44, that's the sentence you should be taking to 3dsmax inventors, not ubuntu, don't you think?
[12:14] <_1_Jan-Eric> no right channel
[12:14] <cfhowlett> karab44, take it up with the actual producers of such apps.
[12:14] <vitimiti> Ubuntu is more confortable for most professional uses IMHO
[12:15] <cfhowlett> _1_Jan-Eric, this is ubuntu support.  ask ubuntu questions.  play anywhere else but here.
[12:15] <k1l> karab44: you are wrong on this. just ask the makers of that app why they dont support linux in general
[12:15] <karab44> iptable: actually I use Ubuntu/Linux designed apps, talking about 3dsmax or windows apps was something different
[12:15] <karab44> forget about windows apps, forget I said anything about windows, there was something different on my mind.
[12:16] <_1_Jan-Eric> oh sorry
[12:16] <iptable> karab44, uhm, now you just confused the hell out of the conversation. I am going to bail out of it.
[12:16] <Tim100> i installed vlc player , but i can;t find any icons of it? how do  i place a desktop icon of it?
[12:16] <vitimiti> If the person who made the Ubuntu app did it in a way that it interferes with Unity, it's more like the app's developer(s)
[12:16] <vitimiti> fault*
[12:16] <Tim100> i can only run it from terminal
[12:16] <Tim100> no entries nothing
[12:16] <Ben64> karab44: if you have conflicts with shortcuts, you can change them. why is this still an issue?
[12:16] <iptable> Tim100, try to reinstall.
[12:16] <k1l> karab44: and that theorteical topic suits better into the #ubuntu-offtopic. iptable vitimiti etc.
[12:16] <vitimiti> k1l, you are right
[12:16] <cfhowlett> karab44, ubuntu studio = xfce +ubuntu.  no unity.  no shortcut conflicts.
[12:17] <iptable> k1l, you do not need to tell me...
[12:17] <Tim100> iptable i installed it from software centre
[12:17] <karab44> Ben64: it's not a solution, ever tried to reprogram all vim shortcuts? It does have no sense at all!
[12:17] <Ben64> karab44: you're not making any sense
[12:17] <philinux> Tim100;~ use the dash type in vlc - then pin icon to launcher
[12:17] <iptable> Tim100, can you remove and install again? i.e. reinstall? looks like maybe something went wrong. either that, or it hasn't cached properly (yet)?
[12:18] <Tim100> iptable ok
[12:18]  * cfhowlett thinks we can now add this to the unending "Why won't my ubuntu do *** the way I want it to out of the box?"  
[12:18] <Padawan> hi, i have a server and 30 machines and want to rsync a folder on my server to my 30 machines. In which side i woudl run rsync: the clients right?
[12:18] <zoundwave> Hello, my USB audio device (Steinberg/Yamaha UR22) cannot be detected by Ubuntu. The device is not supported on linux. Is there any way to install it?
[12:19] <iptable> Padawan, whichever you want
[12:19] <iptable> Padawan, simultanous? on clients. I would suggest running it in order on the server. at least your network/HDD won't be stuffefd
[12:19] <cfhowlett> zoundwave, if it's not supported your options are extremely limited. you ****might**** be able to install it to wine or you could try installing virtualbox + windows + drivers
[12:20] <Padawan> iptable: ok, i think i got it. gonna take a deep read into the man of it, ty iptable
[12:20] <zoundwave> Ahhh. I see. Alright then, thanks cfhowlett.
[12:20] <iptable> zoundwave, or browse the web for some 3rd party driver somewhere that might work. alternatively, if it is new, return it. there is only a very limited amount of USB sound cards not discovered on linux. it's strange in itself.
[12:21] <iptable> Padawan, no probs. yes. use all the -something switches you require. read through it all
[12:21] <cfhowlett> zoundwave, are you CERTAIN it's not supported?  plug it in and test!  my presonus 1box was not officially supported but - ran out of the box on first plug in.
[12:21]  * iptable goes to rest a bit
[12:21] <ronkrt> im installing zpanel on ubunutu and its hanging after it restarts apache, anyone had this problem?
[12:21] <VincentD> My internet dropped, so sorry for asking the same question twice, but... Just installed Kubuntu 14.04 64-bit, but get a garbled screen after GRUB. Live CD works perfectly, am writing this using it.
[12:23] <QuaxEros_> ex-chat
[12:25] <BluesKaj> VincentD, try updating and upgrading with VT/TTY , ctl+alt+F1 to F6, login then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then reboot or try running sudo service lightdm restart
[12:26] <VincentD> BluesKaj: I've already tried that, but it won't switch to a TTY. Can I chroot from the LiveCD?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> VincentD, do you think grub didn'nt install properly? if so then installing grub from chroot might work
[12:30] <VincentD> BluesKaj: I meant doing an upgrade from the chroot.
[12:30] <VincentD> BluesKaj: Grub seems to be running just fine.
[12:30] <karab44> There is still hope for human kind. I can add such shortcut exception using COMPIZ Manager.
[12:32] <karab44> In general there are two type of people. The smart ones and these who don't use keyboard shortcut at work...
[12:33] <BluesKaj> VincentD, that's something have no experience with, never heard of running apt-get in chroot ...maybe some one with that kind of experience can help here
[12:34] <bajin-lee> hi
[12:34] <VincentD> BluesKaj: I just remembered that I installed Kubuntu without an internet connection due to hotspot portal problems. I think I'll try to reinstall with internet enabled.
[12:34] <philinux> VincentD;~ upgrading via chroot is what i do quite a lot from 14.04 to my 14.10 install on second HD
[12:34] <bajin-lee> how to solve the flash player problem?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !flash | bajin-lee
[12:37] <VincentD> philinux: Good to know! Do you have any idea why internet doesn't work in my chroot?
[12:37] <philinux> VincentD;~ you could trystarting the service. whatever that is in kubuntu
[12:38] <philinux> VincentD;~ however if livecd ok hmm not sure
[12:39] <eeee> VincentD: you might need to copy /etc/resolv.conf from the liveusb ( i think )
[12:39] <eeee> not sure
[12:39] <VincentD> eeee: Yup, just did that. Works perfectly!
[12:40] <bajin-lee> cfhowlett, what's your means?
[12:40] <philinux> VincentD;~ yes just found this bit you might have missed # cp /etc/resolv.conf /mount/point/etc/resolv.conf
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !cn | bajin-lee, read the info about flash in the link.
[12:40] <karab44> anyway thanks for help guys. I am always pleased to chat with you.
[12:41] <VincentD> philinux: Yes, that did it :)
[12:41] <bajin-lee> thanks, i known
[12:43] <BluesKaj> VincentD, installing with internet is important for installing the latest updated packages from the repos, ubiquiy does a good job of connecting to the internet during the install even with a wifi connection
[12:44] <BluesKaj> err ubiquity
[12:44] <System32> hi
[12:45] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , I read that Ubuntu will not work on Acer Aspire V5 571P Laptops , is this true and is there anyway to force it to work please ?
[12:45] <betrayer> anyone know how to connect internet via phone bluetooth in ubuntu?
[12:45] <betrayer> im using uuntu 14.04 version
[12:45] <betrayer> and old model phone like nokia c3
[12:45] <betrayer> *ubuntu 14.04
[12:46] <betrayer> i tried to open bluetooth manager but it didnt seem to detect my phone even i have set my phone bt to visible to all
[12:46] <betrayer> is there any suggection regarding the deb package i need to download qand install
[12:46] <betrayer> i have alrd tried bluez.deb and blueman.deb but failed
[12:47] <pbx> when i launch an app via Dash, e.g. super-1, it launches in the background. is there a way to have it always come forward on launch?
[12:48] <xar> how to automatically IDENTIFY on XChat, please ?
[12:50] <klew> http://docs.zetaboards.com/irc/xchat#autoconnecting_and_auto-identifying
[12:51] <klew> first link on google "auto identify xchat" :/
[12:52] <pbx> rainbowwarrior, i have no special knowledge of that machine, but i don't think it's true. however it does look there are some challenges.  try google to learn more. https://www.google.com/search?q=acer+aspire++v5+571p+linux
[12:56] <rainbowwarrior> pbx : ok ty
[12:59] <klew> rainbowwarrior: quick look on the hw-specs makes me think that there shouldn't be any problems at all
[12:59] <klew> rainbowwarrior: create a bootable usb-key and try it in "live" mode first before installing and you'll see what works etc
[13:01] <rainbowwarrior> klew : everything works fine of the dvd , my network card , i can install, uninstall fine etc , but when i install to the hd i seem to have problems with it not installing anything properly
[13:08] <BluesKaj> rainbowwarrior, try installing with acpi=off in the options on the "try or install ubuntu" screen
[13:08] <klew> rainbowwarrior: sounds like bios settings like satasettings and stuff like that, maybe uefi?
[13:09] <rainbowwarrior> BluesKaj : ok ty
[13:10] <rainbowwarrior> klew : yes ueif if i rememer right
[13:11] <klew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[13:12] <BluesKaj> rainbowwarrior, klew has a point there if you still have windows installed on your machine , however ubuntu should install if you have the hdd setup with an ext partition.
[13:12] <rainbowwarrior> klew : ok ty
[13:13] <klew> on my laptop (Yoga2Pro) I can turn off the UEFI, or you could install the 14.10 beta that has support for UEFI if I recall corerctly
[13:14] <klew> I'm running UbuntuGnome 14.10 now, marvellous scaling for my 3200x1800 13.3" display
[13:14] <klew> the scaling in Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity was OK, but always got messy when connecting external monitor, now it's better
[13:15] <BluesKaj> more uefi info, rainbowwarrior, http://askubuntu.com/questions/451133/uefi-install-ubuntu-14-04-along-windows-8-dual-boot
[13:16] <rainbowwarrior> BluesKaj : ok ty
[13:16] <loa> hello, why there no any pygtk in tahr?
[13:18] <luffy> Can i change the location where ubuntu packages gets installed???
[13:19] <eeee> why do you want to do that?
[13:21] <luffy> eeee, just to save my space in home partition.....and can i store these packages in usb and use it for future use instead of downloading...
[13:21] <eeee> you mean the .deb files ?
[13:22] <eeee> they are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:22] <eeee> and you can delete them all if you wanted, the apps would still work
[13:22] <luffy> eeee,I have to unpack and install it in other partition....
[13:22] <jpds> luffy: Why?
[13:23] <eeee> luffy: you can make your own offline repo
[13:25] <eeee> luffy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[13:26] <klew> I need to find some sort of software that follows my eye movement so I stop typing in the wrong window all the time :P
[13:27] <klew> 7-10 terminals open at any given time, would be quite useful
[13:31] <bitcoinassassin> On a Ubuntu server with a wired connection - running 14x 64 bit... when I change routers, what command can I use from the server to get a new local IP address for the server from the new router; thanks.
[13:31] <waykool99> have an Xfce GUI question for you.  Give me a couple minutes to type the question accurately, thanks.....
[13:32] <klew> bitcoinassassin: why would you want to use DHCP for a server?
[13:32] <bitcoinassassin> klew, that was not my question.
[13:32] <k1l> bitcoinassassin: use ifup eth0 and then ifdown eth0
[13:33] <k1l> bitcoinassassin: erm, the other way around
[13:33] <bitcoinassassin> K1l, lol, ok
[13:33] <klew> man dhclient
[13:33] <klew> gives a few hints
[13:34] <lumia900> apart from AWS can we have any service provider for free cloud account (without credit card)
[13:34] <k1l> dhclient eth0 should work, too. iirc
[13:34] <waykool99> under Window Manager Tweaks, tab Compositor, checkbox Synchronize drawing to the Vertical Blank.  Explain what that means. I'll wait for response, thank you.
[13:34] <k1l> lumia900: better suits to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:35] <daftykins> bitcoinassassin: you really shouldn't be using DHCP though. very amateurish.
[13:35] <lumia900> k1l Thanks for the channel
[13:35] <klew> waykool99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing#V-sync this?
[13:35] <waykool99> klew thanks you.
[13:36] <stefy945> ciao
[13:36] <stefy945> list
[13:36] <somsip> !list | stefy945
[13:36] <daftykins> stefy945: either ask a help question or leave
[13:37] <Gelezinis> l
[13:45] <bitcoinassassin> 1
[13:49] <bitcoinassassin> is there a command to find the people currently being ignored in #ubuntu? thanks.
[13:50] <bitcoinassassin> by me, that is
[13:50] <k1l> bitcoinassassin: see the ignore function of your client
[13:50] <BluesKaj> bitcoinassassin, check you irc client ignore option]
[13:50] <jgcampbell300> I have been running a small 1 man it consulting firm for years, I have several friends that do the same, I am trying to find a Helpdesk, Portal, CMS, Calendar, Mail, Project Management, E-commerce, ERP, Customer Support online solution to help us all anyone have any ideas or links ?
[13:51] <bitcoinassassin> ok guys/gals/guy/gal etc. thanks
[14:15] <EiriksUbuntu> Hello all, I rebooted today and it hung on a blinking _, but when i put in my live usb, and reset, it booted the hdd. How can I update grub to pick up my usb hdd first?
[14:17] <jgcampbell300> EiriksUbuntu: usualy you can hit f12 as it boots and get a boot menu
[14:18] <weylandUtani> EiriksUbuntu: you can also change the boot order fron the BIOS config
[14:19] <Marcus46> ciao
[14:20] <weylandUtani> exit
[14:34] <yubin> is there anyone that won for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082402
[14:34] <jr> il a parlé !! lynchez le !!
[14:35] <yubin> is there a winner for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082402
[14:37] <yubin> is anyone even chatting?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> yubin: the system doesn't send a packet to al systems to get the hardware address of the destination
[14:38] <yubin> is there anyone that won for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082402
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> yubin: the interconnection device (switch etc) will contain an ARP table of it's own
[14:43] <pbx> when i hit super-1 to launch an app, can i configure that to bring the app forward too?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> pbx: you could make a script to run the application then use wmctrl to bring it to the front
[14:46] <trijntje> pbx, if I start an application using windows + number it brings it to the foreground
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> pbx: is it all applications doing this or is it just one application doing it?
[14:48] <pbx> trijntje, interesting. that's only true for me if the app is already running.   ActionParsnip - all apps it seems
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> pbx: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:49] <pbx> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:50] <todakure> I trying to do that [ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HighlyAvailableNFS ] for tests, someone make do that, I need help!
[14:50] <todakure> I use 14.04
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> todakure: looks comprehensive, which bit are you having issue with?
[14:53] <todakure> ActionParsnip: in the bonding
[14:53] <Joe_knock> Can anyone explain to me what the function of the /etc/ folder is?
[14:54] <ringarin> i successfully installed an application but can't run it since i think i messed up something by installing it with make install prior, how should I go about this ?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> todakure: then edit /etc/network/interfaces using vi or nano ran as root, the bond is quite simple, use: ifconfig , to see which interfaces to bond
[14:54] <todakure> ActionParsnip: I configured but not work fine. not seed the IP´s in the network ( ping fail )
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> todakure: dis you set routes down the bond?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> *did
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ringarin: what did you compile?
[14:56] <Joe_knock> I uninstalled phpmyadmin but it still exists in /etc/phpmyadmin/
[14:56] <ikonia> that is just a directory for config
[14:56] <SchrodingersScat> Joe_knock: normally that's where I find configs, official answer can probably be found online
[14:56] <ringarin> ActionParsnip, libreoffice , i then removed all the folders i could find with "find / -name libreoffice" then "apt-get install --install-no-recommends libreoffice" on 14.04
[14:57] <kojot> haj
[14:57] <Joe_knock> SchrodingersScat, ikonia: Would it be safe to remove this phpmyadmin folder from here? Getting an updated LAMP stack is a nightmare.
[14:57] <TJ-> Joe_knock: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ringarin: try renaming ~/.libreoffice it may also be a subfolder under ~/.config
[14:57] <todakure> ActionParsnip: route dwon is the slaves NIC ?
[14:57] <ikonia> Joe_knock: that folder has nothing to do with a lamp stack
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: rename it and test
[14:58] <ikonia> Joe_knock: if you're removed phpadmin - you cn remove that folder as that is all it's used for
[14:58] <ikonia> Joe_knock: I strongly suggest you stop messging around with PPA's when you are at this level of understanding
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: +1
[14:58] <TJ-> Joe_knock: when you use "apt-get remove <pkg>" any configuration files are left behind; to remove them too, use "apt-get purge <pkg>"
[14:58] <ikonia> Joe_knock: use the packages provided by ubuntu
[14:59] <Joe_knock> ikonia: I use PPAs for other packages, it is just the Apache/PHP problems I'm experiencing.
[14:59] <ikonia> Joe_knock: that doesn't change anything I've said
[14:59] <Joe_knock> aah purge!
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: yes, use ppa-purge
[14:59] <ikonia> Joe_knock: you appear to not have a basic grasp of how to run a web server, so using unsupported software from external repos is not wise
[15:00] <ikonia> Joe_knock: I strongly sugget you stop using PPA's and creating problems with it, and use the stable and well supported packages
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: the version of phpadmin is known to work with the other packages in the repos without issue
[15:00] <ikonia> (that is also true of all the other PPA's you are using)
[15:00] <ringarin> ActionParsnip, there was a ~/.config/libreoffice remaining but seems i am still missing something
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> ringarin: if you rename it hen run the application from terminal, is there any output which is useful?
[15:01] <Joe_knock> ikonia: That's quite a blunt assumption to make. Having issues attaching phpmyadmin to apache is a far-cry from running a server.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ringarin: why are you compiling LibreOffice anyway?
[15:01] <ikonia> Joe_knock: asking "how do I read the latest logs" and other such basic questions makes that assumption very real
[15:01] <ubone> can you use shared clipboard in vbox for xp guest, does it work?
[15:02] <Joe_knock> ikonia: This is a dev workstation. Saying I need to know how to read logs is again, not that necessary. But let me not argue.
[15:02] <todakure> ActionParsnip: I configure the bonding, equals of the website, chenge the IP number only
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> ubone: I believe so, the guys in #vbox will be able to help
[15:02] <ikonia> Joe_knock: it is pretty nessasary
[15:02] <ikonia> Joe_knock: being able to understand and manage the platform you are developing on/for is crtial
[15:02] <ikonia> more so if you're going to try to move this to production - which will force the use of unsupported packages
[15:02] <todakure> ActionParsnip: I need to configure the switch ?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> todakure: as long as it accepts packets from the subnet that your bonded interface is on then its configueed enough
[15:04] <ringarin> ActionParsnip, i tought wrong at first (no-java or headless something) ; i went for popping a new vm without the mess left with not using checkinstall
[15:04] <Joe_knock> ikonia the conflicts occurred with the existing packages. On a fresh install using more stable packages, it is a different scenario.
[15:04] <ikonia> Joe_knock: no they didn't
[15:04] <ikonia> Joe_knock: the stable repos do not present conflicts
[15:04] <ikonia> conflicts will only occur when you enable 3rd party repos
[15:06] <Joe_knock> okay okay ikonia. You win, I'm a noob who knows nothing of linux.
[15:06] <ikonia> I'm not interested in winning
[15:06] <ikonia> I'm trying to get you to a stable maintainable platform
[15:06] <ikonia> if you don't want that and want to struggle on blindly - that's your choice
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: by adding random PPAs you have found online you have generated your own issue, it's that simple
[15:08] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: This is the recommended PPA where the latest releases are provided. I just wanted to upgrade to get better PHP language functionality.
[15:08] <ikonia> Joe_knock: where is it recommended ?
[15:08] <somsip> Joe_knock: ondrej PPA?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: why you would want to use phpmyadmin is anyone's guess. It will not help you learn your Os and if you start looking after servers that don't have phpmyadmin then you will be stuck
[15:08] <Joe_knock> somsip: Yes. that one.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: a PPA is a PPA. There are no recommended PPAs
[15:09] <somsip> Joe_knock: stick to stable. Much safer. I wouldn't (and don't) use PPAs on production servers. And I dev on mirrors for the production servers to keep compatibility. Lessons learned and all that
[15:10] <ikonia> Joe_knock: I'd like to know where it was recommended so we can look at that please.
[15:10] <Joe_knock> somsip: This is my workstation. Should I still use the stable packages on it as well? (I ask sincerely).
[15:11] <somsip> Joe_knock: I personally see no point in developing on 5.6 and then having 5.5 production servers. But I work exclusively for a small set of clients so I can chose how flexible I want to be. Which is inflexible, and safe (in brief)
[15:11] <ikonia> somsip: which is why I would hire you
[15:12] <somsip> ikonia: I'm flattered :)
[15:12] <Joe_knock> somsip: Are you currently using a version of PHP higher than 5.3?
[15:12] <netlar> Can I use something besides the evolution calendar in the clock menu?
[15:12] <somsip> !info php5 | Joe_knock (I'm on 14.04 on official repos)
[15:13] <Joe_knock> somsip: On ubuntu 12.04 the latest version is 5.3.1 ...
[15:13] <ikonia> Joe_knock: is there a problem with 5.3.1 ?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> netlar: in Gnome?
[15:13] <somsip> Joe_knock: which is why I upgraded to 14.04, and have migrated all servers I admin to the same. But this is getting OT here...
[15:13] <netlar> ActionParsnip: No, in Unity
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: that is the question people never actually think about
[15:14] <Joe_knock> ikonia: Languages get updated because they sometimes contain flaws/security risks.
[15:14] <ikonia> Joe_knock: but you don't know
[15:14] <ikonia> Joe_knock: you just want the bigger number
[15:14] <ikonia> Joe_knock: you're aware that security issues are fixed and backported
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> netlar: then yes it is Gnome. Unity is nothing more than a plugin for Compiz. When you use Unity. The desktop is Gnome.
[15:14] <Joe_knock> ikonia: Your assumptions are killing me buddy.
[15:14] <ikonia> Joe_knock: hence why businesses like Redhat can support a PHP platform for 12 years
[15:14] <netlar> ActionParsnip: Ok, did not know that
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: considering 12.04 is supported til 2017, don't you think it would get an update if there were security risks?
[15:15] <netlar> ActionParsnip: So can I use a different clock or not use Evolution in the clock/calendar
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: think about it....
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> netlar: let me search
[15:16] <netlar> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[15:16] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Agreed. But I'm also curious to know why 14.04 has 5.5.9 and 12.04 has 5.3.1?
[15:17] <ikonia> Joe_knock: because it's a later version
[15:17] <ikonia> Joe_knock: so it bumps the version to match the release and support cycle
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> netlar: what do you want to replace it with?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: you are looking at version numbers too much. If he version you have does what you need, why would you want a later version. It gains you nothing
[15:18] <netlar> Not sure, but I use soemthig else for my calendar appointments, do not want to have evolution connected in the clock
[15:18] <netlar> Not sure that makes sense
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: instead of thinking you just saw a later version number and bulldozed it in without any thought at all
[15:20] <netlar> ActionParsnip: Like on my mac, there is a calendar in the top panel, but it is not connected to any application, it is just a quick calendar to look at
[15:20] <netlar> ActionParsnip: I know I am not explaining myself clearly
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: I'm pretty sure the maintainers of the PHP packages for Ubunu are far more aware of security issues in PHP than you are, and if there is a problem or bug, the version will be pathed or upgraded as needed
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> netlar: I see, let me search
[15:21] <netlar> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> netlar: do you use evolution?
[15:22] <netlar> ActionParsnip: I do not, I use Sunrise Calendar from the Chrome Application
[15:23] <netlar> ActionParsnip: Just in the unity launcher
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: can you see how preposterous the situation is as well as your attitude to versionning?
[15:23] <somsip> ActionParsnip: oh stop the bulllying now. Come on...
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> netlar: can you not just uninstall evolution then, or does it make issues
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> somsip: just making people think, its rare these days....trying to make the world a better place
[15:24] <ilithium> Hey guys
[15:25] <netlar> ActionParsnip: So if I uninstall Evolution , the clock in the top panel will still be there?
[15:25] <ilithium> Q for you: I have a virtualbox VM which is exporting an SMB share. I want this to be mounted by my ubuntu host when the VM starts up using mount_smb or somesuch. Is there a way I can have this done automagically?
[15:25] <EiriksUbuntu> I am still having grub issues :-( grub on my usb flash is the one that is actually loading my usb hdd, i need the one on the hdd to read
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> netlar: should be yes, you can tell apt-get to do a test / dry run to see what will happen
[15:26] <netlar> ActionParsnip: Never done that, a dry run with apt-get
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> ilithium: could tel the host to nmap the IP of the guest every 2 minutes or so and when it sees samba, mount it and stop
[15:27] <netlar> ActionParsnip: I am looking at Evolution, maybe I can just disable one of the plugins
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> netlar: man apt-get ;)
[15:27] <ikonia> or just use netfs/automount
[15:27] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: The boot-loader used is controlled by the System's BIOS/Firmware boot device order
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: can netfs/automount poll for a filesystem like that?
[15:28] <ikonia> you don't poll for it
[15:28] <ilithium> ActionParsnip: that's an interesting idea. Could you give me a pointer on this? I've had a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and I've a feeling this won't work if the VM stops and starts. Am I correct/
[15:29] <ikonia> you request it on demand, if it is not available it will fail saying "unavailable" if it is available, it will mount it
[15:29] <ikonia> I think there is also a gvfs module that can do it
[15:29] <VincentD> I've installed Kubuntu 14.04 64-bit and altough it works fine from the live USB, booting from disk gives a black screen with purple lines on both sides. Recovery mode gives the same result. Editing gfxmode to text yields a totally purple screen. The system is fully updated and upgraded. How do I solve this?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: nice
[15:29] <EiriksUbuntu> I understand this, and bios says that it will boot the usb hdd first, however, it will not boot unless I have the live usb flash drive also plugged in.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: what video hip do you use?
[15:30] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: What is a hip?
[15:30] <helmut_> i
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: chip, typo, sorry
[15:30] <helmut_> hi
[15:31] <ilithium> ActionParsnip: also - what about autofs? That seems a simpler (easier, anyway) solution
[15:31] <EiriksUbuntu> hi
[15:31] <fahmad> hello
[15:31] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: So that should tell you that when Ubuntu was installed, the boot-loader was (accidentally) installed to the USB flash device rather than the hard disk
[15:31] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7290]
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: try the boot option: radeon.nomodeset=1
[15:31] <EiriksUbuntu> TJ- that's what I'm trying to fix
[15:32] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: So, to fix that, boot into Ubuntu, remove the USB flash device, identify the name of the disk you want to boot from (e.g. /dev/sdb), then do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" followed by "sudo update-grub"
[15:32] <helmut__> hi
[15:32] <fahmad> hi
[15:32] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: OK. Can I just append that to the linux line when editing in GRUB?
[15:32] <fahmad> can someone tell me how can i use layer7 impelementation on kernel 3.2.0
[15:33] <EiriksUbuntu> TJ- thank you, doing it now
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: sure, next to "quiet splash"
[15:33] <fahmad> or any other alternative to block bittorrent
[15:33] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: You'll also need to ensure that the "/boot/" directory is on the USB HDD not the flash device (could only happen if you chose to install Ubuntu with a separate file-system for /boot/)
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> fahmad: iptables or ufw :-)
[15:34] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: OK, will try that. Be right back (if I don't have to boot the live CD another time ;) )
[15:35] <netlar> ActionParsnip: See the clock menu in the screen shot? http://imgur.com/V8g5ad8 I just want to remove the one item on top that connects to Evolution but not the rest
[15:36] <fahmad> ActionParsnip: iptables does not blocl p2p
[15:36] <TJ-> fahmad: You'll want the "l7-protocols" package, and either the l7-filter kernel or userspace tools
[15:36] <Baako> omg 14.04 has too much issues
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Baako: then don't use it....
[15:37] <fahmad> i hae installe ll userspace
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Baako: 12.04 is supported til April 2017....try that
[15:37] <fahmad> but kernel module is not available for kernel verion 3.2.s
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> 12.04 <3
[15:38] <k1l> fahmad: why not only block the port for torrent?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> fahmad: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307651/block-all-torrent-traffic-via-dansguardian
[15:39] <Blenda> hi all
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> k1l: you can change the port the client runs on
[15:39] <_0tom_> Q: boot drive has changed from sdb to sda but lilo didnt update. boots to (initramfs). mount sda and chroot, edit /etc/lilo.conf but changes dont save???
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> _0tom_: why are you using LILO? Don't you mean GRUB?
[15:40] <_0tom_> grub wouldnt install.. was causing errors
[15:40] <k1l> ActionParsnip: well yes, i thought there was some connection/transaction port. but that is not effective, yes
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> _0tom_: weird. Did you remount the parttion you chrooted to as read/write?
[15:40] <_0tom_> its kinda  weird system.. lenovo thinkcentre thinclient
[15:41] <_0tom_> do you have to mount it a special way to make it writable? it says it writes, but the changes just dont seem persist when it reboots
[15:41] <_0tom_> i was wondering if new versions of lilo might autogen lilo.conf?
[15:41] <EiriksUbuntu> can someone tell me what the commands are to show usbs connected?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> _0tom_: it may not be writable when you mount it
[15:42] <_0tom_> lsusb
[15:42] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: lsusb
[15:42] <EiriksUbuntu> thx
[15:42] <_0tom_> ok ill try to pass rw flags and let you know
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> _0tom_: worth checking when you mount it to see if it is writable
[15:42] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: You want to know the block devices?
[15:43] <EiriksUbuntu> yeah
[15:43] <qstrahl> How do I force a certain package to be kept at a specific version?
[15:43] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: "lsblk"
[15:43] <somsip> !pinning | qstrahl
[15:43] <_0tom_> ActionParsnip: output of mount: /dev/sda1 on /sda1 type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
[15:44] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: Nope, didn't work. Gives the same result.
[15:44] <qstrahl> Yeesh! Looks really complicated.
[15:45] <Blenda> blackangelpr: you helped me last day on fixing my Win7 Bootmngr issue, i did a last chance try installing yannubuntu, it solved it all, so i could after 15 tries install Win7 SP1. One less node in my mind, comp running now perfectly, so thank you
[15:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[15:46] <qstrahl> I'm not sure that's what I'm after. I just want to avoid the latest version of firefox.
[15:46] <qstrahl> Is there no simple way to tell the package manager this?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: if you boot to root recovery mode, can you get full updated?
[15:46] <k1l> qstrahl: eeeek.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> qstrahl: use apt-pinning
[15:47] <k1l> qstrahl: since there are no security wise updates for the old version that is not a good idea
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> qstrahl: the package wont be upgraded then
[15:47] <qstrahl> k1l, My job begs to differ with you!
[15:47] <EiriksUbuntu> TJ- can i msg you my situation?
[15:47] <Blenda> i won't be so much on linux in the future, so i thank you all for your invaluable realtime help, linux people :)
[15:47] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: Maybe it helps to know that I was running a 13.10 32-bit system before, then updated to 13.04, then found out that Docker.io doesn't like 32-bit and then decided to do a fresh 14.04 install after which this occured.
[15:47] <qstrahl> ActionParsnip, Maybe I'm not very astute but it seems to be pinning packages for old releases of Ubuntu...?
[15:48] <sinetek> ElizaNakamoto: hello
[15:48] <ElizaNakamoto> sinetek: Please tell me what's been bothering you.
[15:48] <sinetek> ElizaNakamoto: Emacs.
[15:48] <ElizaNakamoto> sinetek: Please go on.
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> qstrahl: it will pin the version of the package so updates dont touch it, nothing to do with the version of Ubuntu
[15:48] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: I've let the installer install updates just a few hours ago.
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> qstrahl  try: sudo apt-mark hold firefox
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: Quantal is EOL and no longer supported
[15:49] <k1l> sinetek: dont bring bots in here, thanks
[15:49] <qstrahl> Is marking the same as pinning?
[15:49] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: Better to describe it in channel so everyone can help; I may not always be able to give you my attention
[15:49] <qstrahl> Er holding
[15:49] <sinetek> lol
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !pin | qstrahl
[15:49] <EiriksUbuntu> goodin@linux-power-hdd:~$ lsblk
[15:49] <EiriksUbuntu> NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
[15:49] <EiriksUbuntu> sdb      8:16   0 465.8G  0 disk
[15:49] <EiriksUbuntu> ├─sdb1   8:17   0   463G  0 part /
[15:49] <EiriksUbuntu> ├─sdb2   8:18   0     1K  0 part
[15:49] <EiriksUbuntu> └─sdb5   8:21   0   2.7G  0 part [SWAP]
[15:49] <unopaste> EiriksUbuntu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> EiriksUbuntu: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> for some reason once in a while my ubuntu server has a random jump in resource usage and all connections time out. I would like to find what process is causing this
[15:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> what software would I use?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> MDTech-us_MAN: ntop or htop
[15:51] <EiriksUbuntu> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:51] <ikonia> MDTech-us_MAN: how do you know it has a random jump in resouces ?
[15:51] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: I mean I updated from 13.10 to 14.04 which I then nuked and installed a fresh 14.04.1 which is trusty.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: cool :-)
[15:51] <Guest87685> is it possible to block reverse ssh tunneling process? It turns out that I can connect to a remote host, but my remote port listening fails?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> still 32 bit ?
[15:51] <qstrahl> So is pinning or holding the right tool for this job?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> qstrahl: yes, then when updates run, the package wont be updated
[15:52] <EiriksUbuntu> sorry for the bomb, didn't mean to
[15:52] <VincentD> ActionParsnip: Should I try to chroot into into it from the live USB to do an upgrade, just to be sure. Safe mode is also unusable.
[15:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> ikonia, I have a small IRCd on it and all connections to it time out (not refused) for 5 minutes
[15:52] <cylonmath> is it possible to block reverse ssh tunneling process? It turns out that I can connect to a remote host, but my remote port listening fails?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> VincentD: could help. Newer packages etc
[15:53] <qstrahl> ActionParsnip, I'll rephrase; which is the right tool for this job -- pinning, or holding?
[15:53] <qstrahl> pinning xor holding, if you prefer
[15:53] <MDTech-us_MAN> ActionParsnip, does that sun in the background?
[15:53] <MDTech-us_MAN> *run
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> qstrahl: pinning as far as I know is the right terminology
[15:53] <qstrahl> Okay, thank you
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> MDTech-us_MAN: it runs in the foreground in a terminal
[15:54] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: so /dev/sdb1 is the root file-system on the USB hard disk?
[15:54] <EiriksUbuntu> i assumed so?
[15:54] <Baako_> hi guys i just recently install 14.04 LTS but lately when i turn on the computer. the login screen disappear
[15:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> ActionParsnip, I need somethign that runs in the background and records it to a file or something
[15:55] <adu> Why was /etc/update-motd.d/99-footer deleted between v12 and v14?
[15:55] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: So it looks like "/boot/" is in the root file-system, therefore no problem with that. If you've done the 2 commands I recommended it should be good to go
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> Baako_  i had that too,move the mouse offscreen, then drag to the rright, the menu will follow
[15:55] <Baako_> it aint working
[15:55] <Baako_> its just blank with the default ubuntu screen
[15:55] <Baako_> colour
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Baako_  "aint"? well, try some more
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> MDTech-us_MAN: you could cron an execution of htop with one iteration to output to a text file, you ncan then analyse it
[15:56] <qstrahl> I don't think I understand pinning. It seems to rely on specifying a ubuntu version ("intrepid", "hardy", etc) for a package and by some voodoo concealed from me knowing what version of the package you'll get out of that
[15:56] <qstrahl> My problem is I have firefox 32 and I want firefox 31
[15:56] <Baako_> how can i do something is i cant even see the mouse pointer
[15:56] <adu> "dpkg -L base-files" lists "/etc/update-motd.d/99-footer" in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but not in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, Why?
[15:57] <k1l> Baako_: is it 2 monitor setup?
[15:57] <Baako_> k1l yes bro
[15:57] <k1l> so move the mouse to the monitor that it is active
[15:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> ActionParsnip, is there another way?
[15:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> I would like to only get output when levels are critical
[15:58] <TJ-> adu: see the changlog entry
[15:58] <Baako_> k1l i cant see the mouse pointer and i have move the mouse and still nothing. It just the orangey ubuntu colour on both screen and nothing else
[15:58] <adu> TJ: where would I find it?
[15:59] <qstrahl> Regarding pinning: "The first thing described is Pinning, this is useful if you want only some things from a newer version of Ubuntu. There is also package holding, which allows you to not update the package."
[15:59] <qstrahl> That definitely sounds like not what I'm after.
[15:59] <TJ-> adu: "apt-get changelog base-files" and see 7.2ubuntu2
[16:00] <adu> TJ-: thanks :)
[16:01] <Baako_> k1l any ideas?
[16:01] <M4nN3Rrz> Does anyone know how to control the background used by unity *lock* screen (not login)? Mine is "stuck" and wont update on desktop wallpaper change..
[16:01] <goodin> TJ- it works great, thanks
[16:02] <M4nN3Rrz> poked around dconf but there only seems to be settings for login screen
[16:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> any ideas?
[16:02] <TJ-> goodin: Errr... great but what did I do!?
[16:02] <k1l> Baako_: well. it works for my 2 monitor setup. maybe see xorg.log or dmesg to see what is wrong
[16:02] <TJ-> aha! :D
[16:02] <EiriksUbuntu> ^^ oops
[16:02] <EiriksUbuntu> lol
[16:02] <mani3q> Hello, I want to encrypt my home dir after instalation. Does anybody knows any disadvantages of creating an encrypted Luks container mounted with libpam-mount instead of encrypting the home partition?
[16:02]  * TJ- was confusulated
[16:03] <EiriksUbuntu> Now I just want to get that startup faster
[16:03] <Baako_> k1l i force shutdown and now i got the login screen
[16:03] <qstrahl> I have version 32 of firefox. I need version 31 of firefox instead. Can I tell the package manager to install specifically version 31? Pinning does not seem to do this, holding only seems to prevent further updates.
[16:03] <Joe_knock> ikonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
[16:03] <Baako_> am trying to go on playonlinux
[16:03] <EiriksUbuntu> i still have a purple bordered screen show up before it boots
[16:03] <adu> TJ-: the changelog says "remove /etc/update-motd.d/99-footer, no longer needed with current Debian update-motd.d handling"
[16:03] <TJ-> mani3q: ecryptfs lets attackers know the directory and file structure; LUKS/dm_crypt is the entire block device.
[16:03] <TJ-> adu: So now you know :)
[16:04] <ikonia> Joe_knock: why are you sending me that ?
[16:04] <Baako_> now my mouse aint working k1l
[16:04] <EiriksUbuntu> Baako_ do they have a DayZ for linux yet?
[16:04] <adu> TJ-: but it _is_ needed, because now /etc/motd.tail is no longer added
[16:04] <k1l> Baako_: there seems to be a lot wrong on your system. see the logs
[16:04] <Joe_knock> A point of reference when you choose to engage others with the point of helping them, ikonia
[16:04] <Baako_> k1l the keyboard any working as well
[16:04] <ikonia> Joe_knock: what are you on about ?
[16:05] <EiriksUbuntu> brb
[16:05] <Baako_> EiriksUbuntu dont think so
[16:05] <mani3q> TJ-: I guessed that I will avoid encryptfs in this way. I preallocated a file using DD and used luksFormat, it is still encryptfs? Am I missing something?
[16:06] <k1l> Joe_knock: that is totally offtopic and offending. so keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[16:06] <_0tom_> whats the command in 14.04 to generate a grub.cfg??
[16:06] <k1l> _0tom_: sudo update-grub
[16:06] <Joe_knock> k1l: It was in reference to a previous scenario, which I found offensive. Please follow the thread before picking sides.
[16:07] <_0tom_> k1l: thanks!
[16:07] <_0tom_> ActionParsnip: fyi in case you were curious i managed to chroot to my system partition and install grub so were all good.. screw lilo :)
[16:08] <axxdax> aaa
[16:08] <adu> TJ-: how do I make /etc/motd.tail added to the motd on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[16:08] <TJ-> adu: If there's an "/etc/motd.tail" should that not now be generated from a script in "/etc/update-motd.d/" directly, or add a script to include it if it is needed?
[16:09] <adu> TJ-: I think I'll just add 99-footer from 12.04
[16:10] <netameta> how do i give execute permission to a certain file ?
[16:10] <k1l> netameta: chmod +x filename
[16:10] <TJ-> mani3q: You've lost me; to have a /home/$USER/  mounted from an encrypted block device at log-in you'll need to have some additional PAM scripting foo going on to unlock and mount that block device so the home directory contents can be seen by the shell
[16:10] <netameta> k1l thanks
[16:11] <mattxtn> I just noticed I don't have a swap. I have 8gb of ram, do I even need a swap?
[16:11] <EriC^^> mattxtn: do you want to hibernate?
[16:11] <EiriksUbuntu> silly question, but how do i load a script on room join
[16:11] <mattxtn> Nah, just suspend.
[16:11] <TJ-> adu: something like "/etc/update-motd.d./99tail" with  "[ -r /etc/motd.tail ] && cat /etc/motd.tail" ?
[16:12] <EriC^^> mattxtn: don't need it most likely
[16:12] <mattxtn> thanks Eric^^
[16:12] <EriC^^> np
[16:12] <k1l> mattxtn: i dont have a swap with 8gb ram and no intention to hibernation
[16:12] <EiriksUbuntu> i want to load my text-to-speach script whenever i join this channel how do i do that?
[16:12] <adu> TJ-: that's exactly what was in 99-footer
[16:12] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: what sort of script? most channels dont want automatically stuff to be run
[16:13] <adu> anyways, thanks for the help
[16:13] <EiriksUbuntu> k1l it's a text to speech script
[16:13] <mani3q> TJ-: thats right, maybe I will try to describe what I want to do, create a big container in /home/user.bin, format it with cryptsetup luksFormat, and configure it with libpam-mount so it will be mounted when the user enters its password
[16:13] <mattxtn> thanks k1l
[16:14] <adu> TJ-: I guess another option is to add a line to /etc/pam.d/login with motd=/etc/motd.tail
[16:14] <mani3q> TJ-: I don't want to encrypt the whole /home partition, so I'm asking if my idea is worth and safe
[16:15] <EiriksUbuntu> I like to have it running in workspace 4
[16:17] <laurens181> Hi
[16:17] <anonymously1234> ©
[16:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ®
[16:19] <laurens181> I have got a problem with my Brother printer on Ubuntu on my laptop. Yesterday I could print fine. But now when I print the actual page the page is being shrunk to 1/8st size of the page it should be
[16:19] <anonymously1234> ♫
[16:20] <anonymously1234> laurens181 what model brother is this and what ubuntu version
[16:21] <laurens181> anonymously1234:  Brother DCP-7070DW  (so its wireless). Ubuntu 14.01
[16:21] <EiriksUbuntu> well, i tried, lol oh well just leave it to manual for now
[16:21] <laurens181> 14.04 *
[16:22] <anonymously1234> laurens181 - sorry, I'm trying to recall; I had this problem; trying to recall how I fixed it . . . other than finally connected via a usb cable so I could get scanning to work....
[16:23] <anonymously1234> but with a Brother J140W
[16:23] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  I had a network share working between 2 ubuntu PCs on the same wireless working flawlessly.  It no longer works.  I have since plugged one of the PCs into the router via ethernet, seems to be the only change worth mentioning.  Any ideas?
[16:23] <EiriksUbuntu> what is the irc command to start a script on joining a channel?
[16:24] <ikonia> EiriksUbuntu: there is no irc command
[16:24] <TJ-> mani3q: That would work, and gives a per-user encrypted block device, but I'd do something like that using an LVM logical volume rather than a file in an existing file-system which needs to be loop-mounted
[16:24] <EiriksUbuntu> is there a command to start a script?
[16:24] <laurens181> anonymously1234: Well I'm talking about printing a document from a computer. But yes I did tried yesterday evening to get the scanning working, and it worked over a usb connection with xsane.
[16:25] <laurens181> anonymously1234: Maybe that caused the problem I have now ...
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> EiriksUbuntu  you can write scripts that contain"irc commands
[16:25] <mani3q> TJ-: Yes, I wanted to hear that. I will check out that LVM based method. Thank you very much. Have a nice day!
[16:26] <anonymously1234> yeah. without the usb scanning doesn't work. the 1/8th size printing thing is weird.
[16:26] <Baako_> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 /dev/sda8: clean, 295010/19218432 file, 4723544/76847360 blocks
[16:26] <Baako_> what does that mean?
[16:27] <laurens181> Brother Customer service is closed by now. Maybe I could try to call them tommorow
[16:27] <EriC^^> Baako_: mean's that /dev/sda8 was fsck'd and found clean
[16:28] <anonymously1234> laurens181: I'm not sure they will answer you questions. I don't think they *support* *nix.
[16:28] <Baako_> Eric is that good or bad
[16:28] <anonymously1234> good
[16:28] <Baako_> also how do i exit the term? i was
[16:28] <laurens181> anonymously1234: Well brother has some quite decent suppport for linux (in comparison with other printer companies)
[16:29] <laurens181> on their website *
[16:29] <anonymously1234> laurens181: yes. I just don't know if they answer questions on the phone and if they do they probably charge.
[16:29] <anonymously1234> a fee
[16:29] <laurens181> mmh....
[16:29] <EriC^^> Baako_: exit the terminal?
[16:29] <anonymously1234> type "exit"
[16:30] <darkodelta> just type exit
[16:30] <anonymously1234> and hit enter
[16:30] <Baako_> Eric i was in the recovery mode and it got some tyoe of terminal
[16:30] <EriC^^> Baako_: sudo reboot
[16:30] <Baako_> Eric not working bro
[16:31] <EriC^^> what's it saying?
[16:31] <anonymously1234> Baako_: what happens when you type sudo reboot and hit enter
[16:31] <Baako_> nothing happens annoymously
[16:31] <EriC^^> sudo shutdown -r now
[16:31] <laurens181> anonymously1234: Fixed it ^^
[16:31] <anonymously1234> laurens181: what did you do
[16:31] <laurens181> Just a problem in the printer settings on my computer
[16:31] <anonymously1234> yeah
[16:31] <Baako_> continuing will remount your /filesystem in read/write mode and mount any other filesystem defined in /ect/fstab. Yes or No
[16:31] <Baako_> i choose yes
[16:31] <EriC^^> yes
[16:31] <Baako_> then i got
[16:32] <Baako_> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 /dev/sda8: clean, 295010/19218432 file, 4723544/76847360 blocks
[16:32] <EriC^^> ok, so, why are you in recovery mode?
[16:32] <anonymously1234> nicely done laurens181
[16:32] <EriC^^> ( in the first place )
[16:32] <laurens181> In the printer settings of the printer (I don't know how (I did that)) the pages per side was setted on 16...
[16:32] <Baako_> Eric was trying to see if i can fix the freeze screen everytime i log in
[16:32] <laurens181> .....
[16:32] <laurens181> lol
[16:33] <anonymously1234> ╕
[16:33] <EriC^^> Baako_: ok, how did this start to happen?
[16:33] <laurens181> have to go back to work again.. Bye! Thanks for your help
[16:33] <EiriksUbuntu> so far I have seen a few wins everyone is doing great, I had a win today to, thanks TJ-
[16:33] <anonymously1234> bye everyone. have a nice daze
[16:34] <Baako_> Eric is started yesterday when i try to install LOL league of legends via playonlinux
[16:35] <EriC^^> ok, if you login the guest account, does it happen too?
[16:35] <xv247> cc
[16:35] <EriC^^> cvv2?
[16:35] <xv247> Salut
[16:36] <Baako_> Eric how do i log into the guest account? when i boot in ubuntu i get my login screen
[16:36] <xv247> Oh you are english
[16:36] <grimeton> kernel 3.13.0-35-generic is missing the usbhid module and the module for the intel nics
[16:36] <grimeton> they are set to be build as modules but they are not in the kernel package
[16:36] <BluesKaj> xv247,yes this chat is english only
[16:36] <EriC^^> Baako_: in the login screen, select guest
[16:37] <rww> ubottu: fr | xv247
[16:37] <xv247> thank you
[16:39] <grimeton> so DO NOT update to 3.13.0-35-generic
[16:40] <Baako_> ubuntu 14.04 lts is scked am going  back to 13
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Baako_  no, then go to 12.04, like i did
[16:41] <EriC^^> Baako_: MonkeyDust why did you go to 12.04?
[16:41] <Baako_> might try mint
[16:42] <Baako_> Eric the login screen freeze AGAI
[16:42] <mutantkeyboard> guys is there anyone else having problems with dual boot on macbook pro? I'm using refind and everytime I start OS X I need to bless EFI again :/
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  because 14.04 didnt work on my hardware, i now run 14.04 is vmware
[16:42] <EriC^^> Baako_: so ctrl+alt+f1, sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[16:42] <Baako_> and know it flearing like a bad light bulb
[16:42] <k1l> Baako_: so which video card is it? whch driver is used?
[16:43] <EriC^^> Baako_: so, what's wrong with a psychedelic version of ubuntu?
[16:43] <Baako_> Eric that aint working everything is frozen
[16:43] <Baako_> k1l i change it to something else maybe thats why
[16:43] <Nooblet> Hello?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> Baako_  "aint"? stop ranting and switch to a supported release that works
[16:44] <Nooblet> Hey guys if i erase all data will that delete windows 8?
[16:44] <k1l> Baako_: yes. lets stick to facts and not only "well 14.04 is rubbish" etc
[16:44] <EriC^^> Baako_: you think?
[16:44] <Nooblet> I'm using it on a usb so i dont know
[16:45] <k1l> Nooblet: erase all data from what?
[16:45] <macwebguy> mutantkeyboard: were you using the mac alt download?
[16:45] <EiriksUbuntu> I can tell you, 14.04 LTS works better than 10.04 LTS.
[16:45] <Baako_> k1l it cant login in for 2 mins for me for me to change it because when i manage to log in. 1 of 2 things happens 1) THE SCREEN EILL FREEZE 2) everything disappear
[16:46] <EriC^^> Baako_: use the recovery root shell
[16:46] <Nooblet> When i first downloaded ubuntu i installed it and it said erase all data from the disk? i am thinking that this was the usb and not my hard drive
[16:46] <mutantkeyboard> @macwebguy not really ... it became a problem with the latest mavericks upgrade
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> Baako_  yes you said that and you got suggestions... please follow them
[16:46] <Baako_> EriC u will need to guide me
[16:46] <EriC^^> Baako_: you will need to tell us more
[16:46] <k1l> Baako_: ok, please come back when you have follwoing infos: which video card (maybe hybrid?) which video driver in use?
[16:47] <cyber_jomblo> ping
[16:47] <k1l> Baako_: in the meantime ranting and false assupmtions will just make people not want to help you anymore.
[16:47] <EiriksUbuntu> pong
[16:47] <Baako_> k1l  NVIDIA corporation c77 geforce 8200
[16:48] <Baako_> using NVIDIA binary driver version 331.38 from nvida-331 (proprierary)
[16:48] <macwebguy> mutantkeyboard: I've got windows on bootcamp on my mini and I noticed it started booting a lot slower, seemed to hang for a while and then finally booted. I wonder if they changed something...
[16:49] <k1l> Baako_: why that and not the nvidia-current?
[16:49] <Baako_> k1l which one is the current one?
[16:49] <k1l> 304
[16:49] <Baako_> k1l which 304?
[16:50] <k1l> Baako_: just remove the nvidia driver you got completly and try the "nvidia-current" package from the official ubuntu repo
[16:50] <CarlFK> ubuntu-server - what do I install so that when I plug in a usb drive it gets mounted under /media just like -desktop does?
[16:50] <mutantkeyboard> @macwebguy ... exactly the same problem, only Linux is the secondary system. If I start it first time I see the refind menu, but as soon as I start OS X and turn the machine off, I'm stuck with holding option key to get boot options
[16:50] <mutantkeyboard> and is much slower
[16:50] <Baako_> k1l how do i do it?
[16:51] <k1l> Baako_: how did you install that driver?
[16:51] <Baako_> k1l i didnt i think it already done when i install uuntu 14.04
[16:52] <EriC^^> CarlFK: sudo apt-get install usbmount
[16:52] <CarlFK> EriC - nice.  thanks
[16:53] <EriC^^> you're welcome
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> CarlFK  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:54] <EiriksUbuntu> silly question, but is there a linux native DayZ-like game?
[16:54] <Baako_> k1l is they a command i can run?
[16:55] <k1l> Baako_: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[16:55] <Baako_> with *
[16:55] <k1l> yes
[16:56] <k1l> after that reboot and see if its ok with the free driver. (which should be). then you could install the "nvidia-current" package
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> EiriksUbuntu  assminganyone knows what DayZ is
[16:57] <EiriksUbuntu> MonkeyDust lol, yeah
[16:58] <mpistone> trying to figure out why my disk is full-ish, and there's ~100GB in "/var/lib/apache2/fastcgi/.", as in there seems to be a second DIRECTORY named '.' in that folder, in addition to the normal cwd which shows up as '.' in a ls -a, can anyone explain what that means?
[16:58] <k1l> Baako_: got to leave now. but as i explained that should give a working state. if not get the logs to pastebin (like with pastebinit) and show them here so people can have a look at possible errors
[16:58] <_0tom_> Q: I created a user the old fashioned way and for some reason they have no shell access.. im assuming i have to set their default shell to bash but im not sure where to do it
[16:58] <_0tom_> using lightdm if that matters
[16:58] <EriC^^> _0tom_: useradd -m <user>
[16:58] <EriC^^> how old fashioned can you get?
[16:58] <cakeyz> Hi there
[16:59] <cakeyz> Having troubles
[16:59] <EriC^^> how'd you add them?
[16:59] <EiriksUbuntu> cakeyz just ask
[17:00] <cakeyz> Graphics card issues. But i hry all sorts of info when i Google it
[17:00] <_0tom_> Eric^^: you the man
[17:00] <SuperG1134> _0tom_ useradd -s /bin/bash -d /home/username username
[17:00] <EiriksUbuntu> cakeyz ok, whats the issue?
[17:00] <JuJuBee> Can  someone help me get squid3 running?  squid3.pid missing and service squid3 restart stops then starts squid but still no pid?
[17:01] <EriC^^> _0tom_: that command will create a user ( i was giving an example of an old fashioned way to add a user)
[17:01] <cakeyz> I reboot after install and ni longer working, no ui
[17:01] <EiriksUbuntu> did you use usb? and what version?
[17:03] <EriC^^> _0tom_: anyways glad it worked out..
[17:03] <EiriksUbuntu> cakeyz ^^
[17:03] <chrisss123456> hey can anyone help with some funny conky behaviour?
[17:04] <EriC^^> _0tom_: to modify the user's shell, you'd run usermod -s <shell> <user>
[17:05] <chrisss123456> any conky users?
[17:06] <CodeGosu> in windows in some systems with Digital Home Theatere, there was ability to to enable virtual 3d sound
[17:06] <CodeGosu> is there such kind of thing in ubuntu
[17:06] <CodeGosu> something that adds reverb to all sound
[17:08] <CarlFK> ps shows:  Aug21   0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 59 --configure resolvconf:all libcgmanager0:amd64 libudev1:amd64 udev:amd64 .... full list http://paste.ubuntu.com/8301446/
[17:09] <CarlFK> any suggestions before I sudo reboot and turn it on again?
[17:13] <edd> Can anyone help me with patching the kernel with gobohide.patch?
[17:14] <netameta> yesterday i did sudo apt-get -y upgrade to upgrade - it prompted a question if i want to update a certain file that i've changed and i clicked no, is there a way to update it again ?
[17:23] <ronkrt> going to the store for my wife those of you who are keeping track of me, brb.
[17:32] <razieliyo> hi
[17:32] <razieliyo> I'm trying to use consolas font on ubuntu, but the font regular style is like bold in windows =S
[17:32] <razieliyo> anyone knows issues like this?
[17:34] <AndChat326081> Hello
[17:37] <AndChat326081> Does latest version of ubuntu has backward compatibility with old hardwares?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> AndChat326081  use a light DE on old hardware, LXDE or XFCE
[17:44] <guzzi_jones> i want to restore apache from a backup of the system.  I attempted to upgrade ubuntu and it bombed.
[17:45] <guzzi_jones> what is the process?  do i just need to replace /etc/apache2?
[17:45] <rkdemon> Hi,
[17:46] <rkdemon> I am trying to run a headless display server on my server and keep running into this issue :
[17:46] <rkdemon> Running Xvfb :1 results in a hang at
[17:46] <rkdemon> Initializing built-in extension GLX"
[17:47] <rkdemon> google has not helped at all tohelp me find a resolution
[17:47] <rkdemon> any help would be very very appreciatd
[17:47] <loa> is 49 C hot for notebook under lubuntu?
[17:48] <loa> it is notebook from 2008.
[17:48] <guzzi_jones> my laptop always ran a little hot.
[17:49] <guzzi_jones> check that your fans are all running also: psensor
[17:49] <rkdemon> anyone for the xfvfb issue ?
[17:49] <anonusr> hello :)
[17:49] <loa> He have Intel core 2 duo cpu t7300
[17:49] <rkdemon> xvfb
[17:49] <anonusr> i have one problem
[17:50] <anonusr> i just installed ubuntu64 and i cant see hdd when i add them in the cabinet
[17:50] <loa> guzzi_jones, looks i have not such information...
[17:50] <Felix12> Hello
[17:51] <Felix12> I have a proble, with ubuntu somebody helpme plis
[17:52] <TJ-> loa: Core2Duo: "cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp" >= "45000" (45C) after long period idling
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  let's hear it
[17:53] <Felix12> My ubuntu doesnt turn off.only charging but no turn off
[17:53] <Felix12> What i can to do for fix it?
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  how do you try to turn it off?
[17:54] <Felix12> To the desktop bottom
[17:54] <loa> TJ-, so looks like it is ok? my is in idle too, and i even lowel voltage on it.
[17:54] <loa> TJ-, you have laptop?
[17:54] <Felix12> Desktop pc
[17:54] <TJ-> loa: Several, yes. 40-50C is a typical temperature to expect
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  ok, then try this: open a terminal and type   sudo shutdown -h now
[17:55] <loa> TJ-, you tried phc-patch?
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  or sudo init 6      <-- to restart
[17:55] <loa> TJ-, i can't see any difference after lowering voltage.
[17:55] <guzzi_jones> loa: did you install psensor?  what is the fan speeds?
[17:55] <Felix12> Sudo shut -h now?
[17:55] <TJ-> loa: Why would I? I want the CPU to operate at its optimum design settings
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  sudo shutdwon -h now    <-- all lowercase
[17:56] <loa> guzzi_jones, i think my system can't produce such information. i tried sensors command, there are only limited temp information.
[17:56] <loa> guzzi_jones, no fan information.
[17:57] <guzzi_jones> loa: ok.  well 50 is fine.
[17:57] <anonusr> i just installed ubuntu64 and i cant see hdd when i add them in the cabineti just installed ubuntu64 and i cant see hdd when i add them in the cabinet
[17:57] <Felix12> If i use these comands ,my ubuntu save my change on system?
[17:57] <loa> guzzi_jones, looks like so.
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  what changes?
[17:58] <Felix12> Save these comands jobs session?
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  not sure what you mean... it shuts down your pc, make sure you save important documents first
[17:59] <Felix12> And how i save importam documents ?
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  have you never saved a document? usually it's File > Save
[18:00] <Felix12> Yes,i understand i just want to know is these comands save my documents of session
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  "documents of session"? not sure what you mean
[18:04] <Felix12> When you pc turn on you start a session ,then if you download other thins in these session when you turn off the pc this documents save on hard disk.only i ask if these comands save the documents like the normal way of turn off the pc
[18:05] <Felix12> hola
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  yes, it is no different, just a diiferent way of doing it
[18:06] <Felix12> Haha thanks i  wasnt to understanding you
[18:07] <skadfas> hello everyone
[18:07] <Felix12> Thank you so much monkydust
[18:07] <skadfas> im back
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> Felix12  glad we got it sorted out
[18:10] <loa> TJ-, do you now what tempreture have up to date notebook proccessors? for example i3?
[18:10] <loa> are they hot?
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> loa  use this command to know when it's critical:    sensors
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> loa  you have install lm-sensors for it
[18:12] <ronin> how do I install this http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/gawk
[18:12] <ronin> I have trusty
[18:12] <ronin> I would like to have newest gawk gnu
[18:12] <loa> MonkeyDust, i already heave it. I just  wonder are today processors are more power effective.
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> loa  better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, it's not ubuntu related
[18:13] <xangua> ronin: if you want newer softwzre outside of official repositories you either compile it yourself or search for a PPA
[18:19] <sagredo> hello i'm loosing connection to my wifi network after i start torrenting usually 5-15 minutes after i start, this started happening after i installed nvidia display drivers
[18:19] <sagredo> i used to torrent for 5 hours no problem
[18:19] <sagredo> but even after i lose connection i do not rejoin the network until i bring networking down and back up
[18:19] <sagredo> any recommend a program to more intelligently manage wireless networking?
[18:20] <sagredo> like if i lose connection to automatically reassociate?
[18:21] <Tinkerton> Hi folks, now that Truecrypt is no longer being updated, what can I use to encrypt my 14.04 laptop?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> sagredo, which wifi chip?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> !encrypt | Tinkerton start here
[18:26] <Tinkerton> MonkeyDust, ubottu, cheers.
[18:26] <sexyboy> did ubuntu stop providing full dvd images with the alternate installer?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> there is no alternate installer unless you run the minimal
[18:29] <BluesKaj> !minimal
[18:29] <sexyboy> yeah i know it's in the minimal
[18:29] <sexyboy> but the minimal wont support wifi
[18:30] <sexyboy> only etherenet
[18:30] <sexyboy> ethernet.
[18:31] <BluesKaj> or if you install lubuntu. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[18:31] <streulma> hello I have a Macbook Pro Retina Mid 2014 and suspend is not working :(
[18:32] <BluesKaj> streulma, try sudo pm-suspend in the terminal
[18:35] <alf__> skype
[18:35] <streulma> does not work BluesKaj
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> streulma  what happens when you try
[18:37] <streulma> trys but go to lock
[18:38] <BluesKaj> unlock your screen
[18:38] <streulma> oh sudo pm-suspend does nothing
[18:38] <streulma> pm-hibernate goes to lock
[18:38] <rkdemon> ubuntu enthusiasts: can someone please help me with this issue: ?
[18:38] <hayden_> anyone have an msi gt60?
[18:38] <rkdemon> sudo Xvfb :10
[18:38] <rkdemon> results in a hang here
[18:39] <rkdemon> Initializing built-in extension GLX
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> streulma  then it may be Mac related
[18:39] <rkdemon> can someone please comment on this one ?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> streulma, check your power settings
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> streulma  it says here, that it's broadcom (bcm) related
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> streulma  on a Mac, that is
[18:45] <Wiz_KeeD> Could someone please offer a professional opinion on this? I want to use the software but the security part is getting me down a bit
[18:45] <antivirtel> hello all! how can I install directly MATE desktop with Ubuntu 14.04? I've found a build for Ubuntu 14.10 - but I want the LTS... is it available from alternate installer for example?
[18:45] <antivirtel> (I don't  e
[18:45] <antivirtel> even want to install Unity or anything else, just MATE)
[18:46] <Beldar> antivirtel, mate is in the 14.04 repos, and supported here.
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> streulma  i found this on a ubuntumac page:    pm-is-supported --suspend && echo "suspend is supported" || echo "suspend is not supported"
[18:47] <antivirtel> it is ok, I know it - but what if I want to install it directly at installion time Beldar - I don't want unity or anything else
[18:48] <Beldar> antivirtel, Use a mini net-install, you choose the desktop.
[18:49] <antivirtel> ok, thanks Beldar! BTW, does any Inter processor support amd64 architecture? I'm confused
[18:51] <Beldar> antivirtel, I'm not sure on your question.
[18:51] <squinty> Wiz_KeeD,  probably get a better response to your problem if you state your exact problem.  :)
[18:52] <Wiz_KeeD> is it safe? would be the best one :))
[18:54] <Unhammer> playing around with lightdm greeters, I wanted to try the "lightdm --test-mode", but it gives a black screen and "Failed to get D-Bus connection" – anyone know how to fix?
[18:54] <Unhammer> (that is, the xephyr window is just black)
[18:57] <squinty> Wiz_KeeD,   might want to give the following (or similar tutorials) a read   http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[18:59] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what software ?
[18:59] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't understand the question
[19:00] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, supervisor, a python subproccess manager, use that in order to run a program instead of using .rc's
[19:00] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why would you do that ?
[19:00] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: and what do you mean by "rc's" ?
[19:00] <Wiz_KeeD> because it has a xml-rpc interface to start/restart subprocceses, it also re-initiates proccesses that died (more info on the main page)
[19:01] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what's wrong with upstart ?
[19:01] <Wiz_KeeD> http://supervisord.org/introduction.html#overview
[19:01] <Wiz_KeeD> allegedly
[19:02] <ikonia> again why would you want this over upstart ?
[19:02] <ikonia> why would you want to replace the core process manager that is developed/tested/fully supported by many people for something specific that offers you no real advantage, and someone with your level only danger and risk and make your machine unsupportable ?
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> I am still testing around and that's why I'm asking
[19:04] <ikonia> I don't understand any benifit it would give you
[19:04] <ikonia> I cannot grasp why you would want to change the core init system of your machine ?
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> Well I trust your opinion and I'm glad I asked
[19:04] <BluesKaj> some users like to live dangerously hoping you will rescue them when they muck things up , ikonia
[19:05] <ikonia> it's totally up to you, my opinion matters not, but I cannot grasp why you would even give this more than 10 seconds thought
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> My issue is that I want a cetralized location from where to check the availability of a proccess running and send start/stop/restart signals
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> that's pretty much it
[19:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you have that - it's called upstart
[19:05] <Wiz_KeeD> so from my machine I can execute these commands on another machine without logging in with ssh and everything?
[19:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: every init system in the last 15 years has done this, unless I don't understand what you want
[19:06] <ikonia> ahhh so a huge security hole
[19:06] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[19:06] <ikonia> there are many cerntal managemant systems
[19:06] <ikonia> you don't need to change init for that
[19:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: how many machines do you manage ?
[19:06] <Wiz_KeeD> now there are 3, possibly more in the future, and I only require this for one particular proccess
[19:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you are considering a central management tool for 3 machines and to manage 1 process, that makes no sense
[19:07] <ikonia> a local shell script would take 2 minutes to write and do that
[19:07] <tgm4883> ikonia: +1
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> it's about doing this at a push of a button that I can integrate it in a python script
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> If i knew what I was doing I wouldn't be here asking for help
[19:08] <tgm4883> Wiz_KeeD: why do you want to restart that particular process, under what circumstances?
[19:08] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you can do it in a script in 10 minutes
[19:09] <tgm4883> if you mean when it dies, then upstart handles that easily
[19:10] <Wiz_KeeD> ok then I have to look into that I guess
[19:10] <Wiz_KeeD> but I might want to stop/restart on certain ocasions
[19:10] <ikonia> research the tools you have before looking for tools
[19:10] <tgm4883> Wiz_KeeD: like what occasions?
[19:10] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: 2 minute shell script to do "on demand"
[19:10] <ikonia> changing the init system on 3 machines so you can start a process.......not a good move
[19:12] <Wiz_KeeD> right
[19:18] <rkdemon> anyone who can help with Xvfb ?
[19:20] <rkdemon> anyone ?
[19:21] <daftykins> rkdemon: just ask the question to the channel
[19:22] <TJ-> Anyone fancy a go at explaining how 'fdisk' has got things so wrong on this disk? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8302575/
[19:22] <rkdemon> daftykins: have been for a while On my ubutnu 14.04 server Xvfb :10 hangs at
[19:22] <rkdemon> Initializing built-in extension GLX
[19:22] <rkdemon> I really need to get this headless diplay going !!
[19:23] <rkdemon> any help wold get virtual cookies from me .. in spirit!!
[19:24] <EriC^^> rkdemon: why are you using :10 as the display?
[19:24] <rkdemon> I can use anything.. i tried 11
[19:24] <rkdemon> I followed these steps
[19:24] <rkdemon> http://www.installationpage.com/selenium/how-to-run-selenium-headless-firefox-in-ubuntu/
[19:24] <EriC^^> again why 11
[19:24] <EriC^^> try :1
[19:24] <EriC^^> or :0
[19:24] <rkdemon> I tried 0 as well
[19:25] <rkdemon> I don't believe the number really is important .. its the same hang
[19:26] <EriC^^> rkdemon: as far as i know, :0 is ctrl+alt+f7, :1 is ctrl+alt+f8
[19:26] <TJ-> rkdemon: Is "libgl1-mesa-dri" installed?
[19:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: No; rkdemon is working with a *headless* system
[19:26] <squinty> TJ: fwiw, with ntfs partitions on drive, first I go back into windows and chkdsk and/or do a clean shutdown.
[19:26] <EriC^^> ah
[19:27] <rkdemon> TJ-: lemme check
[19:27] <TJ-> squinty: This is a pure fdisk-totally-misinterprets-partition-table issue; even its partner, sfdisk, gets it correct, and they should be using the same libraries
[19:27] <rkdemon> TK-: Yes it is
[19:29] <rkdemon> TJ-: Yes it was installed
[19:30] <TJ-> rkdemon: Anything else in "/var/log/Xorg.?.log" to give us a clue?
[19:35] <Felix12> Monkydust are you?
[19:35] <EriC^^> highlight him
[19:36] <Felix12> The comand shutdowm is not installed on my ubuntu,how di i install it?
[19:36] <Felix12> Helme plis
[19:36] <tgm4883> Felix12: you don't have a /sbin/shutdown?
[19:38] <stvnwst> Hello, everyone. I was wondering if there is a way to prevent the ability to automatically login to a server via SSH without a password, once a password is provided once in an active session.
[19:38] <Felix12> My ubuntu doesnt turnoff and some body told me use shutdowm in terminal but it is not installed in my ubuntu
[19:38] <EriC^^> Felix12: echo $PATH
[19:39] <TJ-> Felix12: You have a typing error!
[19:39] <stvnwst> Seahorse/GNOME Keyring doesn't intuitively allow me to prevent that from happening.
[19:39] <tgm4883> stvnwst: I've not heard of a way, that seems like a pretty odd request
[19:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: good eye
[19:40] <EriC^^> Felix12: are you using shutdowm ?
[19:40] <EriC^^> or shutdown ?
[19:40] <peterrooney> Felix12: Yes it is.  sudo shutdown -h now
[19:40] <TJ-> Sep 09 18:54:51 <MonkeyDust>    Felix12  ok, then try this: open a terminal and type   sudo shutdown -h now
[19:40] <stvnwst> I don't know why this happens, but it's clearly a security flaw that I would like to address
[19:40] <tgm4883> stvnwst: what is a security flaw?
[19:41] <Felix12> Yes
[19:41] <Felix12> But it says is not installed
[19:41] <EriC^^> Felix12: shutdowm or shutdown?
[19:41] <tgm4883> Felix12: yes is not a valid answer to that question
[19:41] <EriC^^> ( cause you mispelt it twice )
[19:42] <vn> back in the days, I used remastersys to build custom livecds, whats the actual methods now?  I want ubuntu + one software setupped
[19:42] <tgm4883> Felix12: notices the n vs the m at the end of the word
[19:42] <stvnwst> Logging into a SSH server without prompting for a password and automatically logging you into a machine
[19:42] <Felix12> I try sudo shutdowm now
[19:42] <EriC^^> oh, man
[19:42] <EriC^^> that's man not mam
[19:42] <EriC^^> :D
[19:43] <Felix12> But it doesnt work
[19:43] <EriC^^> rofl
[19:43] <tgm4883> stvnwst: I'm still not following, you set it up to log in with key based authentication, then you want it to not allow other logins?
[19:43] <stvnwst> I might have to switch linux distributions, if this cannot be resolved
[19:43] <TJ-> Felix12: Are you being deliberately obtuse? We've told you many times now you have a typing error, the command is "shutdown" not "shutdowM"
[19:43] <squinty> Felix12,  shutdowN    it is an N not an M at the end
[19:44] <stvnwst> I have a key that I use to authenticate to a SSH server, and this key contains a passphrase, but once the passphrase is entered once, I can log into the same server repeatedly without a passphrase
[19:44] <tgm4883> stvnwst: ah ok
[19:44] <Felix12> O ok i am going to try shutdown
[19:45] <stvnwst> Sorry for not specifying those details
[19:45] <TJ-> stvnwst: You have ssh-agent running. Disable it.
[19:45] <tgm4883> stvnwst: that makes more sense, so I would assume that seahouse has a timeout for that
[19:45] <tgm4883> or what TJ- said
[19:46] <stvnwst> I would assume Seahorse would have that, but my current session has been running for about two days, and password-less authentication is still possible
[19:46] <Delta706> I have a bug on launchpad.  Is there anything I can/should do to maximize chances of it being not abandoned?
[19:47] <Felix12> I try it and i get a blackscreen in my pc ,what i need to do now?
[19:47] <tgm4883> stvnwst: http://blogs.bu.edu/mhirsch/2013/09/ubuntu-disable-gnome-keyring-ssh-agent-make-ubuntu-not-remember-ssh-private-key-passwords/
[19:48] <Felix12> My pc is turned on with a blackscreen with that comand help
[19:48] <d3kk> can I ask something?
[19:49] <d3kk> where can I do this?
[19:49] <stvnwst> tgm4883: My Google-fu doesn't seem to be effective, today. Thank you!
[19:49] <tgm4883> stvnwst: that might not be valid for 14.04, I wonder if you can just remove ssh-agent
[19:49] <tgm4883> stvnwst: thanks goes to TJ- I didn't know the name of the program doing it "ssh-agent"
[19:49] <k1l> Felix12: what is your actual issue? not shutting down?
[19:50] <Felix12> Yes
[19:50] <stvnwst> Oh, okay. This article is rather recent, though, so it just might work.
[19:50] <k1l> and before that? starting with a black screen?
[19:50] <stvnwst> tgm4883: ^^
[19:50] <Timoty> Hi everyone here
[19:50] <stvnwst> I've never had this issue with other distros in the past, so this caught me by surprise.
[19:50] <squinty> d3kk,  type in your exact problem and if someone can help they will reply
[19:51] <d3kk> I've installed 14.04.1 x64 and I have 2 drives: an ssd (ubuntu) and a HDD 1TB for data the problem is that the ssd is GPT but the data drive is MBR...
[19:51] <Felix12> Man i cant turn off my ubuntu that is my problem
[19:51] <ryan_46> Felix12: type sudo shutdown -h now in a tty
[19:51] <rkdemon> TJ-: THere isn't a /var/log/Xorg.x.log
[19:52] <k1l> Felix12: "sudo shutdown -hP now"  and keep in mind that its important if you use BIG or small letters.
[19:52] <squinty> Felix12,  I have an old box that does that with ubuntu based distro's.... never did find out a solution.
[19:52] <TJ-> stvnwst: It looks like bug 987167
[19:52] <stvnwst> Wish me luck. Rebootin'
[19:53] <TJ-> squinty: It's an ACPI issue
[19:53] <Felix12> I try sudo shutdown -h now and not work
[19:53] <libreman> Guys would you recommend Ubuntu Advantage Standard Desktop for single user ?
[19:53] <k1l> Felix12: is there another issue? like a kernel panik or something?
[19:54] <d3kk> can I change the data drive's partition table from MBR to GPT without dataloss?
[19:54] <stvnwst> Thanks for the link, TJ-! I'm wondering if I should report this myself, as I'm running 14.04 and this bug still occurs
[19:54] <k1l> libreman: "ubuntu advantage standard desktop"?
[19:54] <squinty> TJ:  yes, tried various solutions but nothing seemed to work.  (should look into it again though as it was a couple of years ago that I was trying to resolve the problem).  rainy day project.  :)
[19:55] <libreman> k1l, what all is included in that package? also it is more expensive than a windows license
[19:55] <rkdemon> TJ-: Any clue for the headless issue ?
[19:56] <d3kk> anybody has a solution for my prob?
[19:57] <chrisss123456> hey guys, stupid terminal problem
[19:57] <chrisss123456> i wanna look at the number of unread emails that i have
[19:57] <chrisss123456> but if i run something of the form ﻿grep -c “X-Mozilla-Status: 0000″ “/home/USER/.thunderbird/*****.default/Mail/YOUREMAIL/Inbox”
[19:57] <ChogyDan> does anyone know if the 12.04.4/5 isos have the updated or un-updated kernels?
[19:58] <chrisss123456> it says no such file or directory, even though i can go through all the subdirectories, and then ls and see the Inbox file
[19:58] <Felix12> Ubuntu ever giveme problem .now it doesnt turn off
[19:58] <chrisss123456> d3kk: i found this: http://www.disk-partition.com/gpt-mbr/convert-mbr-to-gpt-without-data-loss.html ?
[19:58] <d3kk> So can I change the partitioning table from MBR to GPT without data loss?
[19:59] <d3kk> in ubuntu?
[19:59] <EriC^^> chrisss123456: cd to the dir and run grep -c "..." Inbox
[19:59] <chrisss123456> d3kk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84501/how-can-i-change-convert-a-ubuntu-mbr-drive-to-a-gpt-and-make-ubuntu-boot-from
[20:00] <rksvy> anyone : has success installing a display with a headless server on ubuntu 14.04
[20:00] <stvnwst> tgm4883: The blog post worked. I thank you and TJ-, once again!
[20:01] <Delta706> chrisss123456: you have *** inside quotes
[20:01] <chrisss123456> EriC^^: thats odd, it seems to just stick...
[20:01] <ChogyDan> ok new question, is there a way that I can get an ISO with an old kernel on it?  I'm trying to install on an old computer, and I keep getting a kernel panic.  OR anyone know how I can install a graphical desktop environment, but have it default to booting to the command line, and have some way for me to initiate the DE?  Again, because of the kernel panic
[20:02] <chrisss123456> Delta706: i change the directory to mine. they're user specific. but that shouldnt change anything... :/
[20:02] <ChogyDan> rksvy: are you installing a display, and hoping it will work?
[20:02] <rksvy> TJ-: you were helping me and then I lost connection.. I might have missed something
[20:02] <chrisss123456> EriC^^: so it just stays, and i end up ctrl-c -ing it, since its not doing anything...
[20:03] <rksvy> ChogyDan: Yes I am trying to install Xvfb and hoping and praying for it to work..
[20:03] <chrisss123456> EriC^^:  ignore that stupidity, of course its just searching. but its taking a very long time.
[20:03] <rksvy> Unfortunately starting Xvfb <number> results in a nice hang
[20:03] <rksvy> Initializing built-in extension SELinux
[20:03] <rksvy> Initializing built-in extension GLX
[20:04] <rksvy> at this place!!
[20:04] <rksvy> ChogyDan,TJ-: any help would be super!!
[20:05] <chrisss123456> Delta706: EriC^^: you guys still here?
[20:05] <Delta706> I am still here
[20:05] <mechanicalduck> hi
[20:05] <levo> i deleted my ubuntu 12.04 32bit and installed 14.04 64bit, i copied my /etc folder somewhere, does it harm my system to paste that folder into my new os /etc folder?
[20:05] <rksvy> Has anyone started Xvbf successfully on ubuntu trusty ?
[20:06] <awktion_> !ask
[20:06] <squinty> ChogyDan,  use the grub boot menu to access "recovery mode" options.  still going to run into kernel issues though i would imagine
[20:06] <d3kk> ***************************************************************
[20:06] <d3kk> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format
[20:06] <d3kk> in memory. THIS OPERATION IS POTENTIALLY DESTRUCTIVE! Exit by
[20:06] <d3kk> typing 'q' if you don't want to convert your MBR partitions
[20:06] <d3kk> to GPT format!
[20:06] <d3kk> ***************************************************************
[20:06] <d3kk> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format
[20:06] <unopaste> d3kk you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:06] <ChogyDan> rksvy: I have no idea.  I took a quick look at the wikipedia entry on Xvfb, and all the commands are run as background commands.  So, maybe make sure you are not running it in the foreground, otherwise it should just hang there.  But that is a simplistic suggestion
[20:06] <Ben64> levo: i wouldn't do that
[20:07] <levo> Ben64: so what's the point of back ups?
[20:07] <Ben64> levo: so you have all the data...
[20:07] <mechanicalduck> hi!
[20:07] <chrisss123456> d3kk: seems like youve been silenced. but thats odd... cant help you then sorry :(
[20:07] <rksvy> ChogyDan: No it is not supposed to run in background. It is supposed to cleanly exit this command.
[20:07] <mechanicalduck> So I want to know whether the recent Ubuntu linux kernel already comes with overlayfs?
[20:07] <d3kk> I'm here
[20:07] <mechanicalduck> anyone?
[20:08] <rksvy> ChogyDan: Thanks for trying .. looks like no one knows it anyways
[20:08] <k1l> !paste | d3kk
[20:08] <jhutchins> levo: This is one of the reasons there isn't an upgrade path from 32b to 64b.  It's not that simple.
[20:08] <rksvy> Does anyone have a preferred or recommended way of starting a disply on a headless server?
[20:08] <d3kk> so the problem is with gdisk to convert MBR disk to GPT
[20:08] <d3kk> it says that will be destructive
[20:08] <jhutchins> levo: What you can do is restore the old /etc tree to somewhere on the new system, then compare config files using diff.
[20:08] <levo> jhutchins: but i pasted my home folder , is it bad too?
[20:09] <rksvy> I am not asking to ask but I seriously believe there have to be others who must be running displays on headless servers often..
[20:09] <jhutchins> levo: A lot of them will be the same.  Some will have critical differences that could kill your system.
[20:09] <levo> jhutchins: home folder??
[20:09] <k1l> rksvy: what do you mean exactly? ssh x forward?
[20:09] <jhutchins> levo: There are arguments against it, but most people just wait for somethng to break then fix it.
[20:10] <jhutchins> levo: User configuration is less architecture sensitive than system configuration.
[20:10] <jhutchins> levo: If you find too many troubles with $HOME, just create a new user and transfer things a piece at a time.
[20:10] <d3kk> 1
[20:10] <d3kk> 2
[20:10] <d3kk> 3
[20:10] <d3kk> 4
[20:10] <d3kk> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format
[20:10] <d3kk> in memory. THIS OPERATION IS POTENTIALLY DESTRUCTIVE! Exit by
[20:10] <d3kk> typing 'q' if you don't want to convert your MBR partitions
[20:10] <sere> how do i upgrade the kernel with apt-get?
[20:10] <unopaste> d3kk you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:10] <levo> jhutchins: ok, so i won't do it. i had some os in virtual box , to run them do i need the virtualbox settings from my last system ?
[20:11] <rksvy> k11: what do you mean ?
[20:11] <jhutchins> d3kk: STOP THAT.
[20:11] <Delta706> d3kk: use the pasting service
[20:11] <k1l> d3kk: man, don put that many lines in here. that is just annoying and makes people not help you. use a paste service like told you 10 times now
[20:11] <rksvy> k11: Ah.. I get it.. I mean something equivalent of a Xvfb .. where is opens a virtual display.
[20:11] <jhutchins> levo: I don't know, I don't use vbox, sorry.
[20:11] <d3kk> sorry
[20:12] <d3kk> I'm tryin but with no luck
[20:12] <k1l> !paste > d3kk
[20:12] <squinty> sere,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:12] <jhutchins> levo: I'm pretty sure you can at least import them.
[20:12] <squinty> d3kk,   might want to install pastebinit
[20:12] <d3kk> :)
[20:13] <d3kk> I will not paste anything else
[20:13] <d3kk> In case I type in
[20:13] <d3kk> :D
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> d3kk  and don't hit enter too often
[20:13] <Ben64> d3kk: what are you trying to accomplish
[20:13] <sere> squinty: thanks
[20:14] <stvnwst> pastebin.com should be of assistance
[20:14] <stvnwst> d3kk: ^
[20:14] <Delta706> d3kk: use paste.ubuntu.com - it is mentioned in the topic
[20:14] <jhutchins> levo: THere is also #vbox for specific questions.
[20:14] <d3kk> I wrote everything
[20:14] <d3kk> I don't want to type again
[20:14] <levo> jhutchins: thanks
[20:15] <Ben64> d3kk: alright, good luck then
[20:15] <k1l> d3kk: you got ,uted because you spammed the channel. so we didnt see that
[20:15] <d3kk> ok
[20:15] <k1l> d3kk: so if you dont use a pastebin we cant help you. bye bye
[20:16] <jhutchins> d3kk: The problem is not pasting vs. typing, the problem is too much in the channel, that's what the pastebins are for.
[20:16] <squinty> d3kk,  either install pastebinit (automatic pasting utility) or copy/paste terminal output to pastebin.com (or whatever paste site) and then paste the return url back into the channel.
[20:16] <jhutchins> !gdm
[20:16] <jhutchins> !gpm
[20:17] <jhutchins> What?
[20:18] <d3kk> I used to convert my secondary HDD to GPT because its MBR and when I typed gdisk it says if you want to do this you have to agree that it can be destructive.
[20:18] <d3kk> I don't want to loss any of data on that HDD
[20:19] <Ben64> d3kk: why does it need to be gpt
[20:19] <f00dWorksta> hi, I ran "unity --replace" as my windows were freezing up. This solved the problem.. .however the indicators are all missing, any suggestions?
[20:20] <d3kk> because I cant mount it
[20:20] <d3kk> my main SSD is GPT because I use UEFI
[20:21] <f00dWorksta> and also window menus are gone
[20:21] <Ben64> d3kk: ok? that shouldn't affect what you can mount
[20:21] <rksvy> thanks guys looks like my luck is out for ubuntu 14 and a virtual display.
[20:21] <d3kk> but before I installed about half an hour ago I was used that HDD in Win 8.1
[20:21] <TJ-> rksvy: I was trying to test it here but having the nvidia drivers installed, the wrong GL libraries are loaded by Xvfb
[20:22] <d3kk> but in Ubuntu I cannot acces it
[20:23] <SonikkuAmerica> d3kk: Do you have ntfs-3g installed?
[20:23] <sagredo> hi after losing my wifi connection i get a kernel panic
[20:23] <sagredo> can anyone help me go through logs and figure out what's going on?
[20:23] <SonikkuAmerica> d3kk: (You should by default IIRC)
[20:23] <d3kk> Yeah I have the ntfs-3g
[20:24] <d3kk> I'll try to upload a screenshot of the message
[20:24] <Ben64> rksvy: you might want to explain more of what you mean
[20:24] <TJ-> d3kk: Changing the disk label type of a disk with data on is a very bad idea, unless you're extremely expert.
[20:25] <sagredo> hi after losing my wifi connection i get a kernel panic
[20:25] <sagredo> can anyone help me go through logs and figure out what's going on?
[20:25] <Ben64> d3kk: it could be failing to mount because (i think) windows hibernates by default
[20:25] <sagredo> my wifi only stays on for a few minutes
[20:25] <jhutchins> d3kk:  gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console.  Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste.  In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the application itself interprets the mouse clicks.  http://www.nico.schottelius.org/software/gpm/  #gpm on irc.freenode.net.
[20:25] <sagredo> before something catches it up
[20:25] <TJ-> rksvy: It looks from other reports that there is a regression somewhere causing Xvfb to fail in some unspecified way
[20:25] <guntbert_> !repeat | sagredo
[20:25] <sagredo> i already searched the forums
[20:26] <d3kk> here is my problem https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/HjPEcAQ3RiGmO8asnEYw
[20:26] <TJ-> sagredo: are you able to capture the kernel panic either via a pastebin or a photo?
[20:26] <Ben64> d3kk: use a pastebin
[20:26] <sagredo> hey TJ-
[20:26] <sagredo> TJ-: wouldn't it be in the system log?
[20:27] <TJ-> sagredo: It should be if the system didn't totally fall over
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> d3kk: You need to disable Fast Startup in Windows 8.1
[20:27] <d3kk> you mean in the UEFI setup screen (bios)
[20:27] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: yep, like i said
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> d3kk: In Power Options on the Desktop Control Panel
[20:28] <rksvy> TJ-: Thanks.. I see some bugs on this topic too but this is so serious fr a server, whoever is using trusty servers in the world must be needing to do do a virtual display. If I need to build something with patches.. I could not get it clearly from any of the googling I did..
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: Meesa no see yoursa comment :D
[20:28] <Ben64> Sep 09 2014 13:25:20 <Ben64>	d3kk: it could be failing to mount because (i think) windows hibernates by default
[20:28] <d3kk> I only have fast startup and secureboot only in UEFI
[20:28] <Ben64> d3kk: read what people write more
[20:28] <TJ-> rksvy: I see some vagrant images with 14.04 that apparently work - maybe you could compare one to your config to determine what they're doing that you aren't?
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> d3kk: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[20:31] <d3kk> I've disabled both secure boot and fast startup
[20:31] <rksvy> TJ-: I was thinking of getting the git repo for application and building it
[20:31] <sagredo> TJ-:
[20:31] <rksvy> vagrant images are a nightmare..
[20:31] <sagredo> http://pastebin.com/qq8SXczh
[20:32] <d3kk> but it's still giving this message if I want to open it anywhere
[20:32] <sagredo> TJ-: as you can see right around 13:14:35
[20:32] <sagredo> the kernel starts reporting wlan0: no proble response
[20:32] <Ben64> d3kk: how did you disable fast startup
[20:33] <sagredo> probe*
[20:33] <sagredo> and then everything locks up
[20:33] <sagredo> shortly after
[20:33] <sagredo> really bizarre
[20:33] <jhutchins> sagredo: How did you configure your wifi?  Are you using Network-manager?
[20:34] <TJ-> sagredo: Have you run a memtest86 on that system? Have you checked the kern.log for disk I/O errors? "[  230.043833] apt-check[2656]: segfault at 7f697690e974 ip 00007f6155651e8c sp 00007fff87ccc6f0 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7f61555f9000+144000]"
[20:34] <iampaul83> is there a way to set a custom application to run as a serice at boot up
[20:34] <d3kk> I don't have windows anywhere because I've formatted the SSD where was the win installed and I installed Ubuntu on it but it is GPT and the other HDD is MBR somewhere I read that it can be problem
[20:34] <jhutchins> iampaul83: What app?
[20:34] <Ben64> d3kk: well you need windows to solve this problem
[20:34] <iampaul83> its an application that was developed by a developer
[20:35] <d3kk> Ben64: why?
[20:35] <iampaul83> its not on package
[20:35] <jhutchins> Ben64: WHat do you propose the problem actually is?  Fast Startup only affects windows, it has no effect on Linux.  Failure to turn it off causes the Windows partition to become corrupt.
[20:35] <iampaul83> if i do exec nameofapplication -D it works
[20:36] <iampaul83> but then i cant close out of the ssh session
[20:36] <jhutchins> iampaul83: All applications were developed by the developers.
[20:36] <Ben64> jhutchins: its a win8 partition, likely has hibernate data or something else that may need a good chkdsk'ing
[20:36] <d3kk> why I have to reinstall that damn sys after I decided to change to ubuntu
[20:36] <mechanicalduck> anyone?
[20:36] <mechanicalduck> Is overlayfs already in Ubuntu kernel?
[20:36] <iampaul83> yes i know but its custom application
[20:37] <jhutchins> iampaul83: Do you mean you can't exit the ssh session, or that the program dies if you do?
[20:37] <iampaul83> yes
[20:37] <jhutchins> Ben64: Linux would have no problem deleting/overwriting it.
[20:37] <Ben64> jhutchins: incorrect
[20:37] <tgm4883> Ben64: uh, are you suggesting that only windows can deal with GPT?
[20:37] <iampaul83> i tried to create a script and create a file in /etc.init.d/nameofapp
[20:37] <jhutchins> iampaul83: That was an either/or question.
[20:37] <Ben64> tgm4883: no...
[20:38] <Delta706> mechanicalduck: have you tried mounting?
[20:38] <shadaloo> hey TJ-
[20:38] <jhutchins> Ben64: The only thing about Win8 partitions that Linux can't handle is the filesystem (specifically resizing).  It can handle GPT just fine.
[20:38] <iampaul83> ok is there any documentation on ubuntu on how to run an application at boot up
[20:38] <Ben64> jhutchins: this has nothing to do with gpt
[20:38] <jhutchins> Ben64: dd will overwrite anything, it doesn't care.
[20:38] <shadaloo> screen froze, i took a photo of your response, and then got kicked out to tty1
[20:39] <shadaloo> so you suggest I run memtest86?
[20:39] <Ben64> also has nothing to do with dd, you should read the scrollback
[20:39] <d3kk> so what I have to do to access my files on an MBR 1TB HDD with ntfs filesystem in ubuntu?
[20:39] <jhutchins> Ben64: My point is that Linux doesn't have any problem getting rid of Win8 partitions.
[20:39] <tgm4883> Ben64: d3kk if you got rid of windows, why are we mounting NTFS drives? (out of curiosity)
[20:39] <iampaul83> jhutchins are you fimialr with setting up applications to start at startup?
[20:39] <Ben64> jhutchins: HES NOT TRYING TO GET RID OF THE PARTITION HE IS TRYING TO MOUNT IT
[20:39] <mechanicalduck> Delta706: I ask because I use a debian kernel (without overlayfs kernel support) and I would replace it with the Ubuntu kernel.
[20:39] <jhutchins> iampaul83: Yes.
[20:39] <tgm4883> jhutchins: https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/HjPEcAQ3RiGmO8asnEYw
[20:40] <iampaul83> ok so how can i do that]
[20:40] <d3kk> because I can't backup a half terrabytes of data
[20:40] <jhutchins> iampaul83: It depends on the program.
[20:40] <iampaul83> what would you need to know?
[20:40] <Delta706> mechanicalduck: well I am running ubuntu.  if there is a test you want...
[20:40] <shadaloo> TJ-: ?
[20:40] <mechanicalduck> Delta706: yes!
[20:41] <Ben64> d3kk: for like the 4th time, chkdsk and/or stop fastboot data
[20:41] <mechanicalduck> Delta706: mount -t overlayfs overlayfs /tmp/test
[20:41] <jhutchins> iampaul83: Your -D suggests that the program is supposed to daemonize.  Your statement that you "can't close the ssh session" implies that it doesn't.  It matters whether you can't actually close the session because the program has seized the console, or whether the program simply dies when you close because it's not actually daemonizing.
[20:41] <d3kk> I thought the fastboot is affect for the main system disk but not the secondary
[20:41] <mechanicalduck> Delta706: mkdir /tmp/test for creating a mountpoint dir
[20:41] <Delta706> as root?
[20:42] <jhutchins> iampaul83: Your reluctance to name the program suggests that there's something dodgy about it.
[20:42] <tgm4883> Ben64: would ntfsfix not work?
[20:42] <Ben64> tgm4883: in my experience, no
[20:42] <tgm4883> bummer
[20:42] <shadaloo> TJ-: ?
[20:43] <iampaul83> its a custom application called manufacture
[20:43] <Valarkin> can anyone help me with a htaccess issue without telling me to become an expert in apache first?
[20:43] <Delta706> I got an error from the mount command
[20:43] <jhutchins> iampaul83: Given that you won't give us enough information to narrow it down, possibilities include backgrounding, nohup, screen, tmux, rc-local, and methods to deamonize a process.
[20:43] <ahmadexp> check this out https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/494937902/arduimu-v4-an-arduino-based-integrated-measurement
[20:44] <Delta706> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on overlayfs,"
[20:44] <iampaul83> if its a program he wrong fron scratch what do you need to know
[20:44] <LeMike> eh, what? `ps -A` shows me "C:\windows\system32\explorer.exe" ... why?
[20:44] <iampaul83> wrote
[20:46] <shadaloo> TJ-: :(
[20:46] <mechanicalduck> Delta706: yes
[20:46] <mechanicalduck> Delta706: OK, so there is no overlayfs, damn.
[20:49] <jhutchins> Delta706: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109413/how-do-i-use-overlayfs
[20:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok I'm back
[20:49] <squinty> LeMike,   running Wine?
[20:49] <shadaloo> TJ-: hello?
[20:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> TJ-
[20:51] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have a /48 IPv6 range from HE's TunnelBroker and would like to set up this tunnel on my Ubuntu server
[20:51] <rainbowwarrior> hello I have installed Ubuntu 14.4.1 on an Acer Aspire V5 571P Laptop , yet when I try and install software ( does not matter what i choose ) i get the icon of the software added to my launch panel on the left side and then when i click on it,nothing happens how can i fix this please ?
[20:51] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have sucessfully set up the tunnel do that I can access the IPv6 net, but I still gant go the other way
[20:51] <MDTech-us_MAN> *can't
[20:53] <coventry> On 14.04, with an NVIDIA GTX card, I have very limited graphics.  The CUDA deviceQuery utility is reporting a modprobe failure for nvidia_current_updates.  What could cause this?  I am going to try reinstalling the official NVIDIA drivers.
[20:55] <d3kk> that solved to mount only -ro but now I can backup some of the important data and after that I can change it to GPT :D
[20:55] <d3kk> http://askubuntu.com/questions/296030/error-mounting-ntfs-partition-after-hybrid-shutdown-with-windows-8
[20:58] <chrisss123456> why do people write {execi 300 blablaba} instead of just {execi blabla} ??
[20:58] <jhutchins> d3kk: What fastboot does is store a map of the Windows drive(s) on shutdown so it can just load that into memory when it restarts.  If the data has changed because some other OS accessed the drive, the map is inaccurate and data can be corrupted.  Doesn't affect non-Windows partitions at all.
[21:01] <jhutchins> d3kk: Good work finding your solution, and thanks for following up.
[21:01] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone
[21:01] <aeyesi> hi hi
[21:02] <aeyesi> anyone knows how install.. err.. you know the login screen on lubuntu ? (the one from ubuntu)
[21:02] <aeyesi> it looks truly nice right
[21:02] <TJ-> aeyesi: They are called 'greeters'
[21:02] <ripthejacker> During the installation the display was in higher resolution but after installation I only have 640x480
[21:02] <ripthejacker> Please help
[21:03] <aeyesi> the login screen TJ ?
[21:03] <aeyesi> u sure?
[21:03] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: What graphics chipset?  sudo lspci -nn | grep VGA
[21:03] <aeyesi> ripthejacker u have to install drivers ah guess >)
[21:03] <TJ-> aeyesi: "apt-cache search '.*-greeter'  "
[21:04] <aeyesi> oooh thanks then!
[21:04] <ripthejacker> aeyesi, It was ok during the installation
[21:04] <aeyesi> ik ripthejacker
[21:04] <jhutchins> TJ-: So we're no longer using gdm/kdm/xdm/lightdm/nodm?
[21:04] <TJ-> jhutchins: The login screen is handled by the greeters
[21:05] <mattxtn> Do they make a file manager that can show 2 or more directories at a time?
[21:05] <aeyesi> ripthejacker look up and do what jhuchin sad
[21:05] <aeyesi> said
[21:07] <xangua> mattxtn: nautilus used to have an option to show 2 split view
[21:07] <mattxtn> thanks xangua
[21:08] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8303304/
[21:10] <mattxtn> Better question. Say I have a bunch of files in different directories. Is there a way to cp them all by *.ext to a single location?
[21:11] <aeyesi> hmmm hmm
[21:11] <mattxtn> Would something like '$ cp /folder/*.ext /backup' work?
[21:12] <aeyesi> ummm
[21:13] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, got anything?
[21:14] <d3kk> Thanks for your help and sorry for the paste fails :D
[21:15] <rainbowwarrior> hello I have installed Ubuntu 14.4.1 on an Acer Aspire V5 571P Laptop , yet when I try and install software ( does not matter what i choose ) i get the icon of the software added to my launch panel on the left side and then when i click on it,nothing happens how can i fix this please ?
[21:15] <aeyesi> rainbowwarrior um...
[21:16] <aeyesi> have you installed using ....
[21:16] <aeyesi> software center app ?
[21:16] <aeyesi> u sure the app was installed already ?
[21:16] <aeyesi> you know it can be still beign installed
[21:17] <aeyesi> also you can check in "system tasks" if the app isnt already running somewhere hidently
[21:17] <rainbowwarrior> aeyesi : I have tried installing using software center and apt-get yet still same problem
[21:17] <Valarkin> any help getting htaccess enabled on 14.04?
[21:17] <rainbowwarrior> ayeyesi : I have even done uninstall and re-install of the apps and same problem
[21:18] <aeyesi> thats weird :0
[21:18] <CyberGabber> mattxtn: I think something like you want to copy all .mp3 files to desktop/mp3-folder  command: #find .-name "*.mp3" -type f -exec cp {} ~/Desktop/mp3-folder
[21:18] <aeyesi> try open terminal and enter the name of app u want to run
[21:18] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: Looking now.
[21:19] <mattxtn> CyberGabber yeah that's kinda where I was heading, was trying something similar with grep
[21:20] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: This might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362792/how-to-install-sis-771-671-video-drivers-on-13-10
[21:20] <fl8sh123> is Virtual Hosting the best way to host multiple websites from one ip address?
[21:20] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: Hm, or not.
[21:20] <ikonia> fl8sh123: a very common approach
[21:20] <rainbowwarrior> aeyesi : its strange as some programs work fine like teamviewer , but programs like xchat don't and i know it works fine as i ran it off my dvd before i installed to hd
[21:21] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, I'm actually using xubuntu
[21:21] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: Try launching the application by name from a terminal; you may get some error reports to give you a clue
[21:21] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: Doesn't matter, all ubuntu is the same except for the desktop.
[21:21] <fl8sh123> ikonia: any other suggestions?
[21:21] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, Ok
[21:21] <ikonia> fl8sh123: depeneds on your requirements
[21:21] <ikonia> fl8sh123: is there a problem with name based virtual hosting ?
[21:21] <aeyesi> rainbowwarrior i wish i could help but ah silleh
[21:22] <aeyesi> try open terminal and just put "xchat" there and see what hapens
[21:22] <fl8sh123> ikonia: Have not set it up yet.  Just trying to get some input from the IRC before hand
[21:22] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, It's already installed
[21:22] <ikonia> unless you have a reason not to, use name bsed virual hosting, it's simple and well documented
[21:23] <fl8sh123> ikonia: Thank you very much
[21:23] <jtrenholm> How do I determine if a unix socket is a datagram socket or stream socket?
[21:23] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:23] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: Yeah, should be by default.
[21:23] <rainbowwarrior> aeyesi : it launches and askes me to select server etc , but then it just sits there and nothing else happens
[21:24] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: 14.04?
[21:25] <ripthejacker> jhutchins,yes
[21:27] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8303440/
[21:28] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: Try to follow this thread, particularly the xorg.conf suggestions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215422
[21:28] <bubbajuice> Hello all.
[21:28] <jhutchins> ripthejacker: Other than that, your google is as good as mine.  This is apparently a well known problem.
[21:29] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, Ok, thank you
[21:29] <bubbajuice> I've borked my package system... <cries>
[21:29] <Valarkin> any help getting htaccess enabled on 14.04?
[21:30] <rainbowwarrior> aeyesi : even transmission don't work and that is already installed
[21:31] <bubbajuice> I added a debian repository while trying to get an updated version of one library...somehow my install of libc6 and asssociates is broken.
[21:31] <mattxtn> CyberGabber thanks I ended up using $ find ./ -name "*.mp3" -print0 | xargs -0 -i mv {} ~/Music/
[21:31] <bubbajuice> apt-get -f install   fails with message 'resolve generated breaks'
[21:32] <Michael87> I'm giving Cairo desktop A go since I have been used to the unity tool bar for over a year. My Question is do you guys think Cairo can be a good replacement desktop over unity on say a laptop...or stay with unity?
[21:33] <bubbajuice> how do i roll back to the good version of lib6c*?   when is try to specify a version 'apt-get install libc6=2.15.0ubuntu10.7' I get the same errors
[21:35] <LeMike> what would be a lightweight/fast (debian) distro that uses xfce and has the latest of some web-dev packages like php and apache?
[21:36] <sexyboy> LeMike: debian
[21:36] <bubbajuice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8303477/
[21:36] <bubbajuice> any help greatly appreciated...
[21:36] <LeMike> I had that sexyboy but only got php 5.3 on it
[21:37] <sanic> zsdfjgioxdfjgiosdghgjd
[21:37] <sanic> MADE OF YOU
[21:37] <sanic> MADE OF ME
[21:37] <sanic> FUCK IS ALL I CAN SEE
[21:37] <Ben64> !ops
[21:37] <sanic> /r/128 IS MY KNEE
[21:38] <iceroot> hi
[21:39] <iceroot> is it possible to resize a complete encrypted partition? i want to put my current system on a bigger hdd and was thinking about dding it to the other drive and then resize the partition, is that possible if the partition is encrypted?
[21:39] <sexyboy> LeMike: use debian testing then
[21:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[21:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> how would I get data from ntop from a shell script?
[21:43] <bubbajuice> $'sudo apt-get -f install' results in this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8303500/
[21:43] <LeMike> php package is not in debian testing included currently
[21:43] <bubbajuice> how do I get it fixed?
[21:44] <bubbajuice> can't remove them, and can't intall them...
[21:44] <genii> !info libc6
[21:45] <genii> bubbajuice: What Ubuntu are you on?
[21:45] <bubbajuice> 12.04, but I upgraded the kernel a month ago
[21:45] <sexyboy> LeMike: it is
[21:45] <sexyboy> LeMike: anyways, go to #debian for help
[21:45] <LeMike> didn't had it here. https://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/ - ok
[21:45] <bubbajuice> I added a debian site to my /etc/apt/sources.list and updated....  I think I broke it then
[21:45] <genii> !info libc6 precise
[21:46] <genii> bubbajuice: That would probably do it, yes.
[21:46] <daftykins> bubbajuice: never do that again :)
[21:46] <bubbajuice> dumb move.   but I don't know how the get out
[21:47] <bubbajuice> I removed the repository, then tried autoclean.
[21:47] <daftykins> !ppa-purge
[21:47] <genii> daftykins: They didn't add a ppa, looks like from their statement they put a deb line directly into their main sources.list
[21:48] <bubbajuice> genii   that is correct.  it was a deb ftp that I added
[21:48] <bubbajuice> and since deleted
[21:49] <genii> bubbajuice: So that makes it even more convoluted to fix now.
[21:49] <daftykins> genii: oh my bad, i shouldn't try and be active in here whilst still healing :D
[21:49] <bubbajuice> when I 'apt-cache policy libc6' I can see the versions listed with old and new....just don't know what to do about it...
[21:50] <genii> bubbajuice: I would first try to manually specify the versions which are stock with precise. Like for instance: sudo apt-get install libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.7
[21:50] <Ali_M_Ahmed> -help
[21:50] <Ali_M_Ahmed> help
[21:50] <Ali_M_Ahmed> clear
[21:50] <Ali_M_Ahmed> sorry
[21:51] <genii> Hm.
[21:51] <bubbajuice> did that before:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8303477/
[21:51] <bubbajuice> I really don't understand the output from that, though..   I don't understand the fundamental conflict.
[21:52] <genii> bubbajuice: The next tactic is to find the exact filename of the deb which is in /var/cache/apt/archives    and then do like: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/<filename-here>
[21:52] <ripthejacker> jhutchins, It says to add an xorg.conf. How do I do it?
[21:52] <bubbajuice> genii: great...  will try and get back to you.  thanks for taking the time
[21:53] <jmft2> Hi, I'm on Xubuntu 14.04, was on Ubuntu 14.04, and I've been having some problems with wifi. It works fine on my work and college network (slower than I'd expect, perhaps) but when I'm at home, network-manager tries again and again to connect. It reports a very weak signal strength, if visible at all.
[21:53] <streulma> good evening, suspend is disabled in Power, grayed out
[21:53] <jmft2> I've tried using a few past versions of the kernel, no luck. (And yes, the network is fine with other devices.)
[21:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> how would I get data from ntop from a shell script?
[21:54] <k1l> streulma: you got a swap partition bigger than the ram?
[21:54] <streulma> oh! is that the reason! it's an SSD and I have not allocated ram
[21:54] <streulma> swap
[21:54] <EriC^^> streulma: suspend or hibernate?
[21:55] <streulma> Eric^^ suspend AND hibernate
[21:55] <k1l> streulma: for suspend to disk (hibernation) you need the swap because that is where the ram will be stored.
[21:55] <EriC^^> swap is for hibernation, suspend isn't
[21:55] <k1l> streulma: for suspend to ram (standby) the ram will be kept alive with power from the battery
[21:56] <k1l> well, it both suspend, but one is to disk and one is to ram. kind of confusing
[21:56] <streulma> it's on a Macbook Pro Retina :)
[21:56] <EriC^^> streulma: swap might wear out the ssd quicker
[21:57] <streulma> ?
[21:57] <streulma> I don't understand that English...
[21:57] <k1l> EriC^^: yep, but that is needed for hibernation.
[21:57] <streulma> you say that I get shorter life with swap on SSD ?
[21:57] <EriC^^> streulma: yes
[21:58] <streulma> that's why I set up NO swap :)
[21:58] <streulma> I have 8GB ram
[21:58] <EriC^^> ok,
[21:58] <bubbajuice> genii:  there is nothing listed in the files at /var/cache/apt/archives....   an empty lock file, and an empty partial directory
[21:58] <EriC^^> if you type sudo pm-suspend, in the terminal
[21:58] <sexyboy> ./22
[21:58] <EriC^^> does it suspend?
[21:58] <streulma> no
[21:58] <streulma> tested
[21:58] <EriC^^> any errors?
[21:58] <streulma> does nothing
[21:58] <streulma> and pm-hibernate also not
[21:58] <k1l> EriC^^: it cant suspend without swap
[21:59] <bubbajuice> is it possible it was deleted when I did autoremove and clean?
[21:59] <EriC^^> k1l: are you sure?
[21:59] <EriC^^> ( to ram not to disk )
[21:59] <streulma> ok
[21:59] <streulma> second please... :)
[22:00] <genii> bubbajuice: The clean would have wiped everything out in there, yes.
[22:00] <streulma> 8 GB swap ?
[22:01] <bubbajuice> OK.  I don't know my way around the package system well, but when I do 'apt-cache policy libc6'  it lists the ubuntu version I want with the repository...
[22:01] <k1l> well. if standby (lets call it that way to get less confusion)  doesnt work that could be a acpi issue with the apple hardware?
[22:01] <bubbajuice> do i have to manually chase it down there?
[22:01] <genii> bubbajuice:  So another way is: sudo apt-get download libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.7   then sudo dpkg -i --force-depends <the-name-of-the-file-it-downloaded>
[22:01] <k1l> on my thinkpad i just close the lid and it goes to standby.
[22:02] <bubbajuice> genii: this looks promising...  will try
[22:03] <streulma> wrote swapfile :) 600MB / s
[22:05] <streulma> no, no suspend or hibernate
[22:06] <genii> bubbajuice: It is now Beer O'Clock and I must leave. Hopefully by using some of the methods I've given you can get the proper versions installed. If not, I shall be here again tomorrow ( or someone else may take up the cause)
[22:06] <EriC^^> k1l: i think it should work, i just tried swapoff , then pm-suspend , it still suspended
[22:06] <bubbajuice> genii: thank you.  download worked, but the directories are still empty.
[22:06] <Vampire-bill> ia32-libs issues 14.04
[22:06] <bubbajuice> so I'll hunt for the path to the file for dpkg from here
[22:06] <bubbajuice> thank you
[22:07] <genii> bubbajuice: When you use apt-get download <name>     the package is in the directory which you ran the command in
[22:07] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[22:07]  * genii runs away
[22:07] <bubbajuice> got it.   learning. :)
[22:08] <rainbowwarrior> permission to scream please ?
[22:08] <k1l> EriC^^: if there is a swap partition, yes
[22:09] <EriC^^> k1l: i turned off the swap partition, and it still suspended, but it wouldn't hibernate
[22:09] <EriC^^> however i was thinking if the RAM is pretty full how would it suspend to RAM ?
[22:09] <k1l> well yes. standby should work without swap
[22:09] <k1l> at least it does for me
[22:10] <EriC^^> nevermind i think that didn't make much sense
[22:10] <EriC^^> streulma: try rtcwake -s 10
[22:10] <TJ-> Standby is S3 Sleep; simply freezes processes, puts devices to sleep/bed, and turns off power to everything but the RAM modules.
[22:11] <k1l> TJ-: yep, i think thats an apple hardware acpi thing
[22:11] <rainbowwarrior> Hello , I am running Ubuntu 14.4.1 on an Acer Aspire V5 571P Laptop , I installed using a USB FLash drive , and while live everything worked fine, but now I have installed to the hard drive, Only some software is working and programs like xchat and java are only half working , they will launch to the launch panel on the left and then when i click on then nothing happens , how can i fix this...
[22:11] <rainbowwarrior> ...please ?
[22:11] <streulma> yeah I thought also that it is an acpi problem
[22:11] <streulma> maybe fixed in 14.10
[22:11] <streulma> or run higher kernel ?
[22:13] <rainbowwarrior> streulma : are you talking to me please ?
[22:13] <streulma> no
[22:14] <streulma> rainbowwarrior have you installed Ubuntu with internet connection and download updates and so on?
[22:15] <rainbowwarrior> streulma : yes
[22:16] <Pinchiukas> If two processes have the same memory address near 1u (output of lsof), does that mean that they both will write to it but not read?
[22:20] <streulma> time to go offline
[22:20] <streulma> sleep well
[22:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> how would I get data from ntop from a shell script?
[22:23] <Pinchiukas> MDTech-us_MAN: maybe look into 'top -b'?
[22:24] <Pinchiukas> Not sure if ntop has something like that.
[22:24] <ubuntuaddicted> how would I update git source code I have so that I can recompile a program? I've already cloned the project but there's been code updates and I'm not familiar enough with git to know the command to download all the latest source code
[22:25] <ubuntuaddicted> is there like a "git update" command or something?
[22:25] <wad> I'm looking at a USB startup disk for Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS, 64-bit AMD. Is there a way to determine if it's Desktop or Server?
[22:26] <superspring> ubuntuaddicted: so you're looking to clone a repository? or update a clone repository to it's latest version?
[22:26] <ubuntuaddicted> wad, does it contain Xorg?
[22:26] <TJ-> ubuntuaddicted: "git pull" if origin/master is set correctly
[22:26] <wad> As a directory at the root of the drive? No.
[22:26] <ubuntuaddicted> superspring, i've already cloned the git project and am using it but i just want to update the source and recompile it
[22:26] <wad> So the Desktop edition has a directory there?
[22:26] <TJ-> wad: Tes, look in the "/.disk/" directory of the ISO
[22:27] <wad> ok
[22:27] <TJ-> s/Tes/Yes/
[22:27] <superspring> ubuntuaddicted: dunno abotu 'recompile it', but to update your local version to be the latest, as TJ- said, 'git pull'
[22:27] <ubuntuaddicted> wad, no, i'm just saying desktop version has an X server running so you have a GUI. if it's the server version you on;y have a command line
[22:27] <superspring> ubuntuaddicted: you may need additional parameters based on the name of your remote and the branch you're pulling from...
[22:27] <wad> Oh, well yeah. I could boot to it. I'm just looking at the contents of the drive right now, though.
[22:28] <ubuntuaddicted> wad, from what OS?
[22:28] <wad> Desktop, 14.04.01 LTS, 64-bit.
[22:28] <TJ-> wad: cat "/path/to/iso/.disk/info"
[22:28] <wad> There is a cd_type file there, with this line in it: full_cd/single
[22:28] <ubuntuaddicted> wad, so you're booted into an ubuntu desktop and you're trying to determine if the usb stick you inserted is of ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop?
[22:29] <wad> exactly.
[22:29] <wad> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Release amd64 (20140722.2)
[22:29] <wad> ^ That's the contents of "info".
[22:29] <ubuntuaddicted> superspring, forgive my ignorance but do I just cd to the directory of the project and just run git pull?
[22:29] <TJ-> wad: "cd_type" is there to indicate if multiple media are involved, such as a set of 4 CD-ROMs, for example
[22:29] <wad> ah
[22:30] <superspring> ubuntuaddicted: yeah, the directory with '.git' in it is the base, if you go into the base, or any subdirectory, then 'git pull' will work...
[22:30] <TJ-> wad: And I have: "Ubuntu-Server 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Release amd64 (20140416.2)"
[22:30] <wad> Okay. So it's probably desktop, then?
[22:30] <TJ-> wad: Yes
[22:30] <wad> Cool. I'm gonna upgrade my laptop!
[22:32] <NeverGone> Hello
[22:33] <ubuntuaddicted> superspring, ok, that was it. thanks
[22:33] <NeverGone> I have a thinkpad laptop with ubuntu 14.04 and undock the ultrabay with script: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_Ultrabay_devices#Script_for_Ultrabay_eject
[22:33] <ubuntuaddicted> TJ-, thanks for the git pull command, that did it
[22:33] <NeverGone> how dock the ultrabay in own script?
[22:33] <_97Whiskey> Is there a command to display the ssh banner?
[22:40] <serapath> hi, i have a Lenovo Y50-70 and my wifi stops working after a random amount of time. I'm using Manjaro Linux and don't know what to look for. Could anyone give me some hint how to approach this?
[22:42] <chrisss1234561> anyone know how to make the output of grep the string thats in quotation marks? i.e. in my document i have text="blabla", and i want to output just the blabla. anyone?
[22:43] <TJ-> chrisss1234561: "--only-matching"
[22:44] <chrisss1234561> TJ-: ooh thanks :) ill try and see how it works
[22:44] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone;  google.com isn't loading on ubuntu 14.04 chrome.  any ideas on what to do?  change name servers to google?  i tried following http://www.krizna.com/ubuntu/configure-dns-server-ubuntu-14-04/ ;; and I'm not sure what to do now
[22:45] <k1l> arooni-mobile: can you ping google.com?
[22:45] <arooni-mobile> k1l, yes ; 64 bytes from pool-154-190-128-190.telecel.com.py (190.128.190.154): icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=29.2 ms
[22:45] <arooni-mobile> k1l, so its a chrome issue?
[22:46] <k1l> i think its a your ISP issue
[22:46] <arooni-mobile> k1l, i cant seem to load it on firefox either
[22:47] <chrisss123456> TJ-: wait, im not sure i understand. i am finding the text line, but i dont want that. the blabla part varies...
[22:47] <arooni-mobile> k1l, because i'm not getitn g aresponse directly by google?  it's intercepting the reposnse?
[22:47] <k1l> arooni-mobile: yes, i think the dns of your isp os broken
[22:47] <k1l> os=is
[22:47] <arooni-mobile> k1l, can i stop using the ISP's DNS by using google public DNS?
[22:48] <k1l> 8.8.8.8 is the public dns, iirc
[22:48] <chrisss123456> TJ-:  so for example, i have  a line like "text="Cloudy" code="26" />" and I only want the "Cloudy", but i cant just cut because some days its Sunny and Partly Cloudy etc...
[22:48] <arooni-mobile> k1l, right; but i'm not sure how to implement it;  i tried following that guide and installing bind9; but i think dig shows that results are still coming from localhost
[22:49] <headkase> arooni-mobile, what version of Ubuntu are you running? 14.04? Unity?  If so you'll have your network manager in the upper right to change your DNS servers.
[22:49] <k1l> arooni-mobile: see https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using#setup
[22:49] <arooni-mobile> headkase, 14.04; but cant i change it network wide?  i thin network manager is a per network basis
[22:50] <KLVTZ> Okay this is SOO frustrating. I installed wine1.7 and winetricks via apt and now when i do an update it asks me to update json manipulation library-shared library but it complains that the package system is broken
[22:50] <KLVTZ> very upset because this leaves me basically wiht a package system that is broken :(
[22:50] <headkase> arooni-mobile, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2321/what-is-the-proper-way-to-change-the-dns-ip <- instructions.  That is per-user, system-wide I'm not sure if just editing /etc/resolv.conf and then when changed doing a chattr +i on it would work.
[22:51] <chrisss123456> TJ-:  still alive?
[22:51] <handle> can anyone recommend a really good email client with spam/blacklists that use the net?   evolution isn't cutting it and neither is thunderbird, that or I have the wrong spam filtering
[22:51] <handle> getting insane amounts of spam
[22:51] <KLVTZ> i can purge, install, nor remove... libpulse0:i386 : Depends: libjson-c2:i386 (>= 0.10) but it is not going to be installed
[22:51] <KLVTZ> *I cannot
[22:52] <lxmahyar> how to I resize home partition ?
[22:52] <handle> man fdisk
[22:54] <dachau> hello Mussolini
[22:54] <KLVTZ> Final error is:  error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libjson-c2_0.11
[22:54] <Mussolini> hi all
[22:54] <headkase> lxmahyar, you can't resize a partition while it is mounted, as in your computer is booted, so you have to download the gparted iso, burn that to a disc, then boot off that disc to resize your partitions using it.  Then boot back into your system when done.
[22:54] <KLVTZ> can't even install it
[22:54] <rww> dachau: Change your nick to something appropriate, please.
[22:54] <dachau> ?
[22:54] <dachau> what do you mean
[22:55] <Mussolini> anybody here know han can i configure wireshark on ubuntu ?
[22:55] <dachau> its where I'm from
[22:55] <rww> dachau: Uh huh. Change it.
[22:55] <dachau> ok
[22:55] <handle> good?
[22:55] <rww> handle: yes, thank you
[22:55] <handle> np
[22:55] <handle> what other cities are banned?
[22:55] <handle> HEH
[22:56] <McRabbit> Hello I'm super mega ultra Ubuntu noob, I have a computer that I need to put Windows on, how does one get to the boot menu properly? ;_;
[22:56] <unknown__> Can somebody tell me how to remove X.Org X Server - AMD Driver?
[22:56] <handle> lol
[22:56] <handle> can anyone recommend a really good email client with spam/blacklist support?
[22:57] <lxmahyar> headkase: Thanks a lot!
[22:57] <McRabbit> Hello I'm super mega ultra Ubuntu noob, I have a computer that I need to put Windows on, how does one get to the boot menu properly? ;_;
[22:57] <headkase> lxmahyar, you're welcome.  Make sure you have anything important backed-up before doing it.. ;)
[22:57] <Ben64> !patience | McRabbit
[22:57] <Ben64> McRabbit: also, how is that an ubuntu question?
[22:58] <handle> McRabbit: you need to boot with linux and then setup a dual partition
[22:58] <McRabbit> How to get to boot menu in ubuntu.
[22:58] <handle> you can't get to the bootloader in windows
[22:58] <McRabbit> I want to remove ubuntu completly
[22:58] <headkase> McRabbit, I *think* you hold the shift key while booting to display the GRUB menu, not sure though.
[22:58] <handle> then reinstall windows
[22:58] <McRabbit> And only have windows, I have a windows USB.
[22:58] <Ben64> McRabbit: then go to ##windows and get help on installing windows
[22:58] <McRabbit> But this is ubuntu.
[22:58] <Ben64> but you don't want ubuntu support
[22:58] <McRabbit> And I need to get to the boot menu to install windows from a USB>
[22:59] <Ben64> yep, go to ##windows
[22:59] <handle> you sound like you need general help on how to use a BIOS
[22:59] <handle> hit f12 or whatever to boot from USB and reinstall
[22:59] <McRabbit> So ubuntu can't help with getting to the Ubuntu boot menu?
[22:59] <Ben64> its not the ubuntu boot menu
[22:59] <Ben64> ubuntu has nothing at all to do with installing windows, go to ##windows
[23:00] <handle> and then actually reinstall ubuntu and figure out that windows sucks
[23:00] <Hideme> Can somebody help me remove X.Org X Server - AMD Driver?
[23:00] <arooni-mobile> now running into the same problem with gmail;  it doesn't seem to be loading
[23:00] <McRabbit> Ok, I have a corrupted version of Ubuntu on a different computer. I need to delete it and boot it up from a USB. Can anyone help me with that?
[23:00] <decrypt> McRabbit, you don't need bootloader to install Windows
[23:00] <handle> Hideme: sudo apt-get remove <driver> ?
[23:00] <Ben64> McRabbit: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[23:01] <Hideme> handle I am unsure how to determine the driver name.
[23:01] <decrypt> probably you should to press some key (F10) for example, after power on
[23:01] <handle> it's a PCI card?
[23:01] <Hideme> handle, Yes.
[23:01] <Mussolini> anybody here knows about wireshark"
[23:01] <handle> lsmod
[23:01] <decrypt> and you select the device to boot
[23:01] <decrypt> (my english is not good)
[23:01] <k1l> Mussolini: neither wireshark nor your nickname are supported in here
[23:01] <McRabbit> F10 and F12 don't work either.
[23:01] <McRabbit> It boots up like normal.
[23:02] <decrypt> try ESC key
[23:02] <Ben64> McRabbit: then maybe try ##hardware and figure out how to do what you want, either way, your issue is NOT an ubuntu one
[23:02] <Mussolini> K1l - tnk's
[23:02] <handle> Ben64: chillax
[23:02] <McRabbit> So the issue of ubuntu not getting to the boot menu isn't an ubuntu issue?
[23:02] <handle> heh, Mussolini is allowed to have the name but dachau isnt
[23:02] <decrypt> This is not a Ubuntu issue.
[23:02] <lxmahyar> headkase: No problem, I will take care of It ;)
[23:03] <handle> Hideme: try to find the package that your driver is called
[23:03] <Ben64> handle: this channel needs to keep on topic, i shall not "chillax"
[23:03] <handle> Hideme: for nvidia, it's like "nividia-current" or something
[23:03] <McRabbit> Ok, esc sent me to grub
[23:03] <handle> not sure for AMD
[23:03] <Hideme> handle  It's an AMD/ATI card....
[23:03] <Hideme> okay
[23:03] <headkase> lxmahyar, Right on.
[23:03] <handle> google it
[23:03] <McRabbit> What is the command to boot from a USB?
[23:04] <Mussolini> sorry all
[23:04] <arthurfiggis> McRabbit: Grub has nothing to do with booting from a USB stick?
[23:04] <handle> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[23:04] <handle> see if that helps
[23:04] <Mussolini> i use this chat to learn about ubuntu
[23:04] <Mussolini> and my english is not so good
[23:05] <Mussolini> i'm was reffer "wireshark" - program to linux about network
[23:05] <headkase> McRabbit, you change your BIOS boot order to boot from USB.  That is nothing to do with any operating system at all.  Consult your mainboard or computer model manual for instructions.
[23:05] <handle> 01:03 < McRabbit> What is the command to boot from a USB?
[23:05] <handle> google your motherboard and look up the key to bootfrom
[23:05] <handle> delete/f-keys/escape/etc
[23:06] <lxmahyar> headkase: how your nick is showing like this?
[23:06] <decrypt> follow the handle instructions
[23:06] <headkase> lxmahyar, like what?
[23:06] <lxmahyar> headkase: font bold, and other family.
[23:06] <hashtagubuntu> Hi! I am trying to write a bash script to remove old kernels, but i'm worried it might be dangerous. Can someone take a look (3 lines) and advice me on how I can add safety features? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8303969/
[23:07] <rww> hashtagubuntu: If I recall correctly, sudo apt-get autoremove should remove all but the two most recent kernels...
[23:07] <Mussolini> leave me ask again
[23:07] <headkase> lxmahyar, I'm sitting on a couch with my compy 386 hooked up to an HDTV.  The very first thing I did was make the fonts bigger so I don't recall what the defaults were.  In HexChat btw.
[23:07] <rww> hashtagubuntu: (disclaimer: I haven't used apt-get or Ubuntu's default settings in a long time, so I could be wrong)
[23:07] <hashtagubuntu> rww: that's what I'm trying to do exactly. I'll run it and see
[23:08] <incognito> I'm trying to create a bootable usb with many computer utilities like hard disk repair tools. When I try to create the bootable cd with startup startup disk creator or unetbootin they do not work. What are some alternatives. Can I install grub 3 on the drive and then load the iso, or should I append grub to the beginning of the iso and then intall on flash drive, or should I load the iso and then install grub
[23:08] <Mussolini> anybody here know, How can i configure wireshark - program on ubuntu ?
[23:09] <headkase> incognito, I've read that the USB stick needs to be formatted FAT16 (not 32!) to play nice with unetbootin
[23:09] <handle> hashtagubuntu: want me to suggest some stubs of code?
[23:09] <k1l> Mussolini: again: your nickname is not apropriate. and 2nd: wifi inspection is not supported in here. if you "need" take  the time to read the manual.
[23:09] <hashtagubuntu> rww: i can tell you for sure that it doesn't remove folders in /lib/modules; I have low disk space, and it is a 1.5 GB folder with mostly old kernel stuff
[23:09] <McRabbit> What's the channel for macs?
[23:09] <hashtagubuntu> handle: definitely! i am trying to learn as much as i can
[23:09] <rww> McRabbit: running which operating system?
[23:09] <hashtagubuntu> McRabbit: ##mac or ##apple
[23:09] <Mussolini> sorry
[23:10] <rww> hashtagubuntu: Ah, perhaps I'm wrong :(
[23:10] <handle> hashtagubuntu: give me a few mins then
[23:10] <McRabbit> hashtagubutntu It doesn't seem to work.
[23:10] <McRabbit> hashtagubuntu* Sorry.
[23:10] <incognito> headcase I will format the disk with FAT16 and give it a try. Thanks. I thought it already was, but I could be mistaken
[23:10] <lxmahyar> headkase: ok, It's nothing. ;)
[23:10] <rww> McRabbit: you need to register/identify with freenode nickserv to join either of those channels
[23:10] <rww> !register | McRabbit
[23:10] <Mussolini> i will change
[23:10] <hashtagubuntu> McRabbit: you're right. I'm not sure what changed, those worked a few years ago
[23:11] <headkase> incognito, good luck - I don't have a reference for that but I'm pretty sure I remember it correctly.
[23:11] <sexyboy> what's the name of the ubuntu bug reporting app?
[23:11] <rww> ubottu: bug | sexyboy
[23:11] <sexyboy> rww: i seem to lack that in my 14.04
[23:11] <hashtagubuntu> rww: what do you think would happen if I just deleted the folders with the old modules straightaway
[23:11] <headkase> sexyboy, apport?
[23:11] <sexyboy> ah no, there it is
[23:11] <uselessn00b> Could I perhaps get some help with installing some wireless drivers? I have an 802.11 A/C dual band card. Where can I find the drivers?
[23:11] <headkase> !apport | sexyboy
[23:12] <DVCE_> hi all
[23:12] <rww> hashtagubuntu: probably bad things. best to use the package manager
[23:12] <rww> hashtagubuntu: I've found that if one goes around it like that, it tends to come back and bite one
[23:12] <sexyboy> rww: so, where do i choose the wishlist option there?
[23:12] <DVCE_> how is the command that i change nickname ?
[23:12] <hashtagubuntu> rww: hmm. i will try to find them in the synaptip
[23:12] <rww> DVCE_: /nick
[23:12] <DVCE_> tank's
[23:13] <rww> hashtagubuntu: dpkg -S /path/to/file might be helpful
[23:13] <rww> sexyboy: if I recall correctly, it's a priority set by a bug triager after you report it
[23:13] <headkase> sexyboy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[23:13] <sexyboy> rww: so which package should i choose to file an installer whish?
[23:14] <lxmahyar> headkase: you using which version of ubuntu?
[23:14] <rww> sexyboy: ubiquity
[23:14] <sexyboy> wish*
[23:14] <headkase> lxmahyar, 14.04.1 LTS
[23:14] <lxmahyar> headkase: desktop?
[23:14] <tsmith_> Whats up with old ati drivers in 14.10?
[23:14] <hashtagubuntu> What's the new way of running sudo su?
[23:15] <headkase> lxmahyar, Unity, with patches.. ;)
[23:15] <Ben64> hashtagubuntu: what are you trying to accomplish
[23:15] <hashtagubuntu> Ben64: type dkpg -S /lib/modules/linux-image..... and be able to tab-autocomplete
[23:15] <handle> ok
[23:15] <handle> hashtagubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8304101/
[23:16] <rww> tsmith_: 14.10 hasn't been released yet. Use #ubuntu+1 for support until then.
[23:16] <Ben64> hashtagubuntu: that already works without and sudo...
[23:16] <hashtagubuntu> handle: thanks! reading!
[23:16] <hashtagubuntu> Ben64: I will try again, was doing nothing for me
[23:16] <Ben64> hashtagubuntu: without any sudo*
[23:16] <handle> dont know much about your code
[23:16] <handle> but I added what I'd do to a simple script
[23:17] <lxmahyar> headkase: unity not customizable, but very beautiful design.
[23:17] <handle> always should have a usage statement using "basename" in bash
[23:17] <handle> so it prints out the filename and usage
[23:17] <hashtagubuntu> handle: so checking for arguments would be like if I invoked the script with some arguments, so I wouldn't have to hardcode them?
[23:17] <handle> yeah
[23:17] <handle> add args
[23:17] <handle> never hardcode stuff
[23:18] <handle> script will be faster that way
[23:18] <hashtagubuntu> yeah definitely will
[23:18] <handle> I just added stubs, thats not the right synatx really
[23:18] <handle> lookup bash basename stuff, its easy to add
[23:19] <hashtagubuntu> handle: yeah i get that. I don't know what kind of conditional to add. Basically something that is like "you are about to do xx. is that ok?"
[23:19] <handle> depends what you are trying to accomplish
[23:19] <handle> I dont know
[23:19] <handle> could use case statements or an if/else
[23:20] <handle> brb
[23:20] <uselessn00b> Third day with Linux, how do I download wireless drivers? I can't exactly pin point what my wireless card is.
[23:20] <sexyboy> rww:
[23:20] <Ben64> uselessn00b: lspci or lsusb should show it
[23:20] <sexyboy> rww: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1367487
[23:20] <TJ-> hashtagubuntu: take a look at a bash script of mine: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash
[23:21] <uselessn00b> Ben64, cheers!
[23:21] <hashtagubuntu> handle: no worries, thanks for your help! TJ: ok!
[23:23] <uselessn00b> Ben64: Ok, I have an Intel Wireless 7260 card. Where can I get the drivers?
[23:23] <handle> ok
[23:23] <PixelCrumbs> I want to buy a laptop/notebook to run ubuntu. What would you guys suggest? My budget is anywhere from $300-$1000 and I'd mostly be using it for developing
[23:23] <handle> a cheap asus?
[23:23] <handle> what are you developing?
[23:24] <Ben64> uselessn00b: not sure, maybe someone else here knows
[23:24] <uselessn00b> PixelCrumbs: I'm on an ASUS C300 and it's quite nice for $250.
[23:24] <uselessn00b> Ben64: Thanks for all your help!
[23:25] <PixelCrumbs> uselessn00b: oh nice, i'll check that out. Thanks :)
[23:25] <uselessn00b> I just started with Linux but I already love you guys. <3
[23:25] <PixelCrumbs> handle: anything really. But nothing too serious like games
[23:25] <TJ-> uselessn00b: "pastebinit < <(lspci -nnk)"
[23:25] <uselessn00b> TJ-: What?
[23:25] <TJ-> uselessn00b: execute that command and tell us the URL of the pastebin containing the data
[23:27] <handle> PixelCrumbs: well, I'd get one with an SSD
[23:27] <uselessn00b> TJ-: Do I have to install something so that I can pastebinit?
[23:28] <PixelCrumbs> handle: yeah true. What do you use? Could you recommend anything? :)
[23:28] <hashtagubuntu> PixelCrumbs: not sure how useful this will be but you can always search for potential machines here: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ If what I have experienced is true, don't go for budget versions of machines or cutting edge stuff -- tried and true models are best with ubuntu.
[23:28] <handle> I was looking on newegg
[23:28] <sexyboy> why can't ubuntu live image contain the alternate installer as well as the graphical one?
[23:28] <TJ-> uselessn00b: On 14.04 it is installed by default; if not "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[23:28] <handle> seems like you are gonna have to spend $1k for an asus ssd laptop
[23:29] <handle> PixelCrumbs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231400
[23:30] <uselessn00b> How do you copy information from the terminal?>
[23:30] <PixelCrumbs> handle: hmm yeah true. Would a desktop be a better choice or?
[23:30] <handle> uselessn00b: highlight, right click
[23:30] <Pinchiukas> Can I somehow find out where ksh is in a shell script? The processes are stuck and I want to know where. This is a large maze of shell scripts...
[23:30] <handle> PixelCrumbs: do you plan to move around your computer?
[23:31] <uselessn00b> That doesn't work? Might be because I am using a trackpad.
[23:31] <PixelCrumbs> handle: not really
[23:31] <handle> then just build your own system for cheap
[23:32] <uselessn00b> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8304219/
[23:32] <PixelCrumbs> handle: yeah I think I might. Thanks for your advice
[23:32] <handle> np
[23:33] <handle> http://www.newegg.com/DIY-PC-SuperCombos/PromotionStore/ID-33
[23:33] <handle> plenty of other stuff you can buy that will destroy a laptop
[23:33] <SP33D> can some one plz verfiy that apt-show-versions in current trusty is broken?
[23:33] <handle> get a 4core and it will be hyperthreaded in ubuntu
[23:34] <SP33D> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4rrfBiaK
[23:34] <handle> lol, trusty
[23:34] <handle> why upgrade when its a mess
[23:34] <uselessn00b> What's wrong with trusty?
[23:34] <SP33D> i normaly run utopic
[23:34] <SP33D> :D
[23:35] <SP33D> but that box is still trusty
[23:35] <handle> it screws up everything when you upgrade
[23:35] <handle> might as well rm -rf /
[23:35] <uselessn00b> But I trusted it :(
[23:35] <handle> cause thats what you end up doing it
[23:35] <SP33D> trusty is well
[23:35] <SP33D> but the apt-show-versions package is some how demaged i think
[23:36] <SP33D> but i have the luck i can replace version fast on that box will simply use centos7
[23:37] <Ben64> handle: don't type that command in here
[23:37] <handle> why
[23:37] <Ben64> it is dangerous
[23:37] <handle> :(){ :|:& };:
[23:37] <Ben64> !danger
[23:37] <handle> so is that
[23:38] <handle> wth
[23:38] <handle> danger?
[23:38] <Ben64> !guidelines | handle
[23:38] <handle> thats the last thing I saw before being kicked for no reason
[23:38] <Bashing-om> !info apt-show-versions
[23:38] <k1l_> handle: stop it now!
[23:38] <arthurfiggis> handle: It's what happens when someone decides to be an ass and post code for a fork bomb in the channel
[23:38] <handle> stop what
[23:39] <k1l_> handle: this is a beginners channel. so stop pasting potencially dangerous commands in here. that is strictly against channel guidelines and code of conduct.
[23:40] <uselessn00b> I downloaded some drivers for my wireless card but I can't open the .tgz with the archive mounter. What gives?
[23:40] <handle> thanks
[23:40] <Bashing-om> SP33D: ^^, are you fully updated/upgraded ? from this "Error: No information about packages! (Maybe no deb entries?) " .
[23:40] <SP33D> fresh install
[23:40] <SP33D> fully updated
[23:40] <handle> I didnt realize the chan was apparently new users
[23:41] <Ben64> SP33D: what command are you typing exactly
[23:41] <handle> is anyone here going to fossetcon?
[23:41] <handle> I am
[23:41] <TJ-> uselessn00b: The wireless device driver "iwlwifi" is loaded and should be ready to work
[23:42] <uselessn00b> TJ-: I'm having some network issues though. It's complicated.
[23:42] <SP33D> don't laught i do apt-get install apt-show-versions
[23:42] <SP33D> not more
[23:42] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Except in rare circumstances, Linux should include all the device drivers required. Exceptions are for devices from manufacturers who do not support the Linux kernel and open-source development
[23:42] <TJ-> uselessn00b: What kind of issues specifically?
[23:42] <SP33D> on a fresh trusty install that did apt-get update and upgrade
[23:42] <Ben64> SP33D: the error comes after doing apt-get install?
[23:42] <SP33D> on apt-get install
[23:42] <uselessn00b> TJ-: I can't get my Linux laptop visible on my wlan.
[23:43] <uselessn00b> No idea what the problem is.
[23:43] <Ben64> SP33D: maybe you should try a different mirror
[23:43] <Bashing-om> SP33D: sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions ?? with the "sudo " ??
[23:43] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Does the PC see the wireless access point and the BSSID name?
[23:43] <SP33D> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jud8KQqy
[23:43] <SP33D> this is the full
[23:43] <uselessn00b> TJ-: That is Greek to me.
[23:44] <uselessn00b> TJ-: I don't think I am cut out for Linux. :(
[23:44] <TJ-> uselessn00b: do this: "pastebinit /var/log/syslog" and I'll take a look
[23:44] <uselessn00b> I can go to browse network in "Files" and see "Windows Network" but when I try to open it up I get the "Unable to access location" error.
[23:45] <uselessn00b> TJ-: You're a hero.
[23:45] <Ben64> SP33D: http://sprunge.us/FaDS
[23:45] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Unlike Windows where useful log data is rare, Linux has an abundance of it and its all accessible as text files so its easy to get to and read
[23:45] <uselessn00b> TJ-: It says that it's unable to read it.
[23:45] <uselessn00b> or something.
[23:45] <uselessn00b> I have to go eat though.
[23:45] <uselessn00b> Brb.
[23:46] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Ahhh, maybe you need 'sudo': "sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[23:46] <SP33D> hmm
[23:46] <SP33D> ben what do you think i should do
[23:47] <SP33D> can i fix that any how or shall i install a other os
[23:48] <k1l_> SP33D: sudo apt-get install -f
[23:50] <SP33D> don't fixes the problem
[23:50] <jak3000> hi all
[23:50] <SP33D> only apt-get remove :D
[23:50] <jak3000> why i get an Forbidden permission when i try access: www.mysite.com/glnftp/sandia.jpg      see details: http://pastie.org/9540375    thanks
[23:51] <TJ-> SP33D: k1l_ The postinst script is simply doing "apt-show-versions -i" so you can run that manually and also add verbose logging: "sudo apt-show-versions -vi"
[23:51] <SP33D> jak3000 join #httpd
[23:51] <jak3000> SP33D i think is a problem of permissions of linux?
[23:52] <TJ-> SP33D: ahh, actually it can't cope with joined options, you'd need "sudo apt-show-versions -v -i"
[23:52] <k1l_> TJ-: SP33D i see some german ML entry for a debian issue with "Acquire::GzipIndexes "true";" in apt.conf for that package. but i cant find that on my system at all
[23:53] <SP33D> hmmm
[23:53] <SP33D> at all it don#t works but is installed that cool
[23:53] <SP33D> :D
[23:54] <SP33D> ah don't works
[23:54] <k1l_> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617856  that seems to be the bug report
[23:54] <SP33D> he says its not configured i don't know how to configure it manualy
[23:55] <TJ-> SP33D: Do this and see if it reports an error; if so tell us what it reports "sudo apt-show-versions -v -i"
[23:56] <k1l_> SP33D: please pastebin "ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages*"
[23:56] <SP33D> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/egLKi3mt
[23:58] <k1l_> SP33D: yes, they are gzipped. so you need to tell your apt.conf to change from "Acquire::GzipIndexes "true";" to "Acquire::GzipIndexes "false";"
[23:58] <SP33D> nice top thx so so much
[23:59] <TJ-> SP33D: k1l_ This should be fixable; it's only a Perl script