[00:58]  * RedDeath Back
[01:37] <zerothis> I have a notebook that runs _only_ the lubuntu GUI installation, not LiveCD, not the installation after finished. So I need to know, what desktop environment and drivers specifically is lubuntu running during the install?
[01:53] <holstein> zerothis: the same
[01:53] <holstein> zerothis: the issue is, the installer may be different.. so, you can gleen anything from that
[01:54] <holstein> z	what have you tried to make the live CD work?
[01:54] <holstein> !nomodeset
[01:54] <holstein> ^ ?
[02:23] <zerothis> I've tried every versions of lubuntu back to herring, even the mini isos. Only the ubiquity installer works in GUI.
[02:57] <zerothis> btw, the system is running, i just can't see it. I can pop in an audio CD and play it
[04:12] <ubard> greetings everyone
[04:13] <ubard> I have a screen flickering problem after the last updates
[04:13] <ubard> can anyone help me out?
[06:55] <absk007> after updating oh-my-zsh today, i get http://i.imgur.com/KoF7S6t.jpg this error while starting up.
[07:01] <d2ydx2> ...were you pressing control m/
[07:01] <d2ydx2> ? side note, after updating today my broadcom wireless firmware stopped working
[07:11] <absk007> d2ydx2, why should i press ctrl + m?
[07:11] <absk007> d2ydx2, it just broke my whole zsh thingy!!
[14:48] <Guest27085> hi there, this isn't the italian support to lubuntu, right?
[14:49] <ianorlin> unfortanetly this is English only not italian
[14:49] <ianorlin> !it
[14:49] <Guest27085> no problem, just to be sure I'll be understood :)
[14:49] <ianorlin> that might give help in italian but may not know about lubuntu
[14:50] <Guest27085> so I'm having a bunch of issues after installing lubuntu 14.04 on a macbook 4.1
[14:50] <ianorlin> name the first one?
[14:50] <Guest27085> ianorlin, no probs, I'll use english here
[14:50] <Guest27085> like, I remember that setting touchpad sensitivity wasn't so easy
[14:51] <valemaio> I had to change a config file, but I can't remember which one
[14:51] <ianorlin> does going to menu prefrences keyboard and mouse should give you graphical appliaction to do it
[14:52] <valemaio> yeah, but it doesn't keep the settings once rebooting the system, if I remember
[14:52] <valemaio> let me give it a try
[14:54] <valemaio> oh wait, now I remember. I have to set how sensible the touchpad is on finger touch
[14:55] <valemaio> because I have to literally dig a hole on it to use it
[14:55] <valemaio> and I can't do it from the graphical setting thingy
[14:56] <ianorlin> ah yeah that is different
[14:56] <valemaio> yeah sorry, I've got bad memory :)
[14:56] <ianorlin> you can use synclient from the command line for that
[14:56] <valemaio> too bad I can't run memcheck on my brain...
[14:57] <valemaio> synclient! that's it! thanks!
[14:58] <ianorlin> be back in 10 to 15 minutes
[14:58] <valemaio> sure, thanks!
[14:59] <valemaio> BRB me too, I'm rebooting to see if it keeps the settings
[15:05] <giga_> as I remembered, synclient doesn't keep the changes after rebooting. any suggestions?
[15:22] <valemaio> sorry, wrong nick
[15:33] <valemaio> does anybody know how to make a terminal command to run on startup? I'm running lubuntu 14.04
[15:35] <ianorlin> write it to a script and then put it in default apps for lxsession
[15:36] <valemaio> that's the problem, I know how to do theoretically, but how the script should be written? can you link me a guide from the internet? so far I've found nothing useful
[15:36] <valemaio> it's still for the synclient thing
[15:43] <valemaio> wait, maybe i've found something useful for me
[15:44] <ianorlin> what is the synclient optoin you want to set
[15:44] <valemaio> fingerlow=15 && fingerhigh=20
[15:44] <valemaio> because it won't keep it at startup
[15:44] <valemaio> keep them
[15:45] <valemaio> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2114618 maybe this is it
[15:45] <valemaio> let me give it a shot, if you don't have any suggestions
[15:47] <ianorlin> you start the script with #!/bin/bash
[15:48] <valemaio> yup
[15:48] <ianorlin> then synclient fingerlow=15
[15:48] <swift110> Hey guys
[15:48] <valemaio> cool, I don't know how to write the sharp symbol with this keyboard XD
[15:48] <ianorlin> hi
[15:49] <valemaio> I'll copy/paste it
[15:55] <valemaio> allright, let me try again
[15:56] <valemaio> BRB
[16:00] <valemaio> allright, it works!
[16:01] <valemaio> thanks for your help!
[16:01] <swift110> Hmm
[16:01] <valemaio> BTW i've just installed a SSD hard drive on this macbook and now lubuntu boots in less than 5 seconds!
[16:03] <swift110> Thats cool
[16:03] <swift110> How does lubuntu work on the mbp
[16:05] <valemaio> mbp?
[16:15] <ianorlin> mac book pro
[16:15] <ianorlin> not sure which one I don't have a mac
[16:16] <valemaio> oh
[16:16] <valemaio> that's not a pro, it's an old macbook 4.1
[16:17] <valemaio> you know, the last built in plastic, but with intel architecture
[16:17] <valemaio> and lubuntu works fine, just some minor issues which I've solved
[16:17] <valemaio> also thanks to ianorlin
[16:17] <ianorlin> you're welcome
[16:18] <valemaio> anyway, gotta go. thanks again!
[17:28] <Marin> Hello, on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu I see "using UNetbootin is highly recommended". But if I simply use dd to copy the ISO I have download on this page in order to make a bootable USB key, will it work too?
[17:34] <testdr> Marin: you can copy the downloaded Lubuntu-14.04.1 iso with dd direct to the usb-thumb-device -- you only lose any data on the usb-stick and you need to partition and format it later again to use it for other data. Another way is to write the "iso" with the "usb-creator"(gtk/kde) to an usb-stick with enough space on it
[17:36] <testdr> Marin: its told that some android-handys kann be used as an dvd-boot-medium with the iso as file in their storage (but i have none to verify it)
[17:41] <ianorlin> yes dd will work Marin but you must be careful with dd
[17:42] <Marin> thanks, indeed it worked
[17:45] <zy3pD> hey i got a fresh lubu 14.04.1 installation and the sound indicator is invisible
[17:46] <zy3pD> how to make it visible?
[17:53] <wxl> first of all, are you sure the sound is working?
[17:53] <wxl> zy3pD: ^
[17:54] <zy3pD> the sound works
[17:54] <zy3pD> i added the indicator on panel but it is invisible
[17:55] <zy3pD> and yes i can hear sound
[17:55] <wxl> that's a new one on me!
[17:57] <zy3pD> any ideas?
[18:02] <Marin> Re... I have booted the Lubuntu 14.04 image from a live USB key, and then the blue wallpaper and the borders of the "Installation" window shows up, but the content of the window is totally empty, blank. Also, the graphical environment seems frozen, but I can still move the mouse cursor. Is that a known problem?
[18:03] <zy3pD> ok then my secound problem, when i open a menu in an application it has an ugly white backgrund, under 13.04 it had an nice gray background, how to change this?
[18:08] <Marin> ...problem solved, I had to go to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and then come back to the graphical environment (Ctrl+Alt+F7)
[18:28] <testdr> Marin: this problem (first kinda frozen graphic) is not known - but its known if there may be problems with the hardware (graka) - and i hope you did check the md5sum of the downloaded iso (to make shure it is not corrupted).
[18:30] <Marin> testdr: the checksum is right
[18:30] <testdr> Marin: last, are you using an older computer with small memory? There are limit for installation with small memory - for the live-version-install you need more than 512MB ram (there is the alternate-Lubuntu-installer for computer with less memory)
[18:31] <Marin> testdr: a "free -m" shows 463 MB total... I didn't know that before (someone from my family gave it)
[18:31] <Marin> indeed, the installation seems to be slow and swap a lot
[18:32] <testdr> Marin: then it could be the install will break -- not run to the end. Like i said, there is the alternate-Lubuntu-install-iso -- i did use it with success for an older laptop with only 256MB ram.
[18:33] <testdr> Marin:i would suggest you look for the alternate-install-iso -- but, last, there is the option to install without goint into the live-version (an option that uses less memory). The alternate-install uses a non-graphic-installer (only ascii-terminal)
[18:34] <Marin> thanks for your advice
[18:34] <Marin> will the last version of Firefox at least run correctly with that amount of RAM?
[18:36] <testdr> Marin:  yes - firefox 31 will run in lubuntu with only 400-500MB ram, but you should not use it with 100 tabs and 10 windows
[18:38] <testdr> Marin: after lubuntu-boot, the used memory is less 200MB - so there is enough for running firefox - even with light youtube-vids. But running office and firefox will do a lot of swapping
[18:38] <Marin> testdr: personally i'm using firefox 31 on a lighter distro with 768 MB ram, and I have often difficulty to use websites such as YouTube, and the last Google Maps is totally unusable. Its RAM usage has incresed a lot with last versions
[18:40] <Marin> testdr: (only aside of a text editor, a terminal and a IRC client that consumes an insignificant amount of RAM)
[18:42] <testdr> Marin: firefox goes easy over 1GB ram-usage and pidgin (for irc) goes over 0.5GB -- but there are smaller irc-clients and for an editor there are other choices than an gtk-editor (for me even vim is a good choice). And like said, the usage of firefox should only user very few tabs and only one window - and maybe disable java/script most the time.
[18:46] <wxl> testdr: a terminal client might be best for irc. pidgin is an ATROCIOUS irc client.
[18:46] <Marin> testdr: I'm using XChat as IRC client, geany as text editor, and xfce-terminal. Most of time I use less than 5 tabs in 1 window. Flash is disabled by default using the builtin Flashblock-like feature that landed in Firefox, and since recently I often disable JavaScrit from about:config. Also, I now use youtube-dl for YouTube and a lighter browser (midori) for Google Maps
[18:47] <wxl> i think vim is a great choice for an editor (especially in terminal) and i heard about this new irc client that's really nice let me dig it up
[18:48] <wxl> i think it's f-irc
[18:48] <wxl> checking
[18:48] <testdr> Marin: for firefox there are differnt addons - for example "QuickJava" with buttons to en/disable such settings in the menu-top-line -- no need to go to about:config)
[18:49] <wxl> yes! that's the one
[18:49] <wxl> it's like xchat for the terminal. very well done. i'm too deep into irssi to even consider it but it looks very nice
[18:49] <wxl> also the web page is hilarious http://www.vanheusden.com/f-irc/
[18:55]  * ianorlin uses weechat in a terminal
[18:55] <ianorlin> vim is hard to learn
[18:55] <ianorlin> but really awesome once you do
[18:57] <ianorlin> also f-irc is in repos
[18:58] <ianorlin> although not sure if it does SASL
[18:59] <wxl> i have been meaning to switch to weechat for a long time
[19:00] <wxl> also vim is easy to learn.. compared to emacs :)
[19:04]  * ianorlin hasn't tried to learn emacs
[19:04] <ianorlin> vimtutor is really helpful for learning vim
[19:18] <karen_> hey do any of you guys know how i can fix this glitch in lubuntu, i uninstalled light locker but the computer still locks up
[19:18] <karen_> after inactivity
[19:18] <ianorlin> is the screen locked still?
[19:18] <karen_> no
[19:18] <ianorlin> but it turns off?
[19:18] <karen_> power manager isn't running
[19:18] <karen_> yeah as if i still had light locker installed
[19:19] <karen_> power manager is off
[19:19] <ianorlin> did you just uninstall light locker?
[19:19] <ianorlin> it might still be running even though it was uninstalled
[19:20] <karen_> ahh
[19:20] <karen_> okay
[19:20] <karen_> any way i can check?
[19:20] <karen_> like task manager in lubuntu?
[19:21] <karen_> or maybe it's another preference other than lightlocker
[19:21] <karen_> oh found task manager
[19:21] <karen_> yeah what do you know
[19:21] <karen_> light locker is still running
[19:21] <swift110> Yes Firefox eats up ram
[19:22] <ianorlin> I find that I need to close my firefox window and then open it again after some time
[19:22] <wxl> i think firefox has a memory leak in it
[19:22] <wxl> and has for some time
[19:23] <wxl> i get no such issue with chrome
[19:23] <wxl> i leave it open constantly
[19:23] <ianorlin> or doesn't properly reclaim memory from closed tabs
[19:23] <wxl> yeah
[19:24] <swift110> Ok that would explain a lot
[19:27] <karen_> okay messed with the power management section
[19:27] <karen_> set it to "never"
[19:27] <karen_> i think it was set to 60 minutesd
[19:27] <karen_> minutes*
[19:27] <karen_> didn't even know there was a "never" setting until i moved it all the way to the left
[19:41] <phillw> what version of ffox are you running?
[19:44] <phillw> I'm not seing any memory leakage in 14.10 lubuntu
[19:45] <wxl> it's a matter of using firefox over time, phillw. and it's not a lubuntu problem, it's a firefox problem.
[19:46] <phillw> wxl: piglet was last booted top - 20:45:53 up 15 days, 59 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.80, 1.05, 1.30
[19:46] <phillw> ffox and chromium have run all that time :)
[19:46] <wxl> phillw: how many tabs?
[19:46] <phillw> I'd have expected to see a leak :)
[19:47] <phillw> chromium currently 9, ffox currently 10 (both have been up to about 20 over last few days while linuxpadawan is sorted out)
[19:48] <phillw> both have behaved
[19:48] <wxl> phillw: that's not been my experience but i haven't touched it in a long time
[19:48] <phillw> I run both all the time
[19:50] <phillw> have done for several releases, including when chromium had the leak and ffox was bloated
[19:50] <wxl> i have looked at task manager so many times and just watched the fox's memory usage creep up and up and up
[19:50] <wxl> i mean you could watch it happening
[19:50] <wxl> it wasn't exactly and over time thing
[19:50] <wxl> maybe it's the sites i'm using?
[19:51] <phillw> wxl: I run top often :) I find that virt-manager does not always shut down cleanly and needs a gentle prod in the ribs :D
[19:51] <wxl> oh well, it doesn't bother me any. i just use chrome :)
[19:53] <phillw> I do not have issues with either new chrmomium or ffox
[19:55] <phillw> one of the issues, I think, is that LTS needs SRU stuff. This delays bug fix updates. 14.10 gets them immediately.
[20:00] <swift110> I tend to use a lot of tabs
[20:01] <swift110> Im normally using about 2gbram
[20:22] <phillw> swift110: KiB Mem:   3655716 total,  3459380 used,   196336 free,    35568 buffers
[20:22] <phillw> KiB Swap: 10100684 total,   459728 used,  9640956 free.   727720 cached Mem