[01:44] <Coimbra> OERIAS is back!
[03:14] <gebbione> serious? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1322925 5 months and no change?
[03:15] <gebbione> useless distro
[03:15] <gebbione> going to look for something better, so many bugs, how was ubuntu 14 acceptance tested????
[07:42] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:18] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Swap Ideas Day! :-D
[08:27] <DJones> Have I slept for 6 months, its not APril 1st is it? http://games.slashdot.org/story/14/09/09/2334235/report-microsoft-to-buy-minecraft-studio-for-2bn
[08:28] <Myrtti> if Notch would want more money quickly, then that might be the way, I'm a bit doubtful he'd do that though.
[08:28] <Myrtti> I suppose everything is possible.
[08:29] <DJones> Its possible, but I can't see how MS would expect to recover $2bn from Minecraft sales/income
[08:30] <DJones> Plus there's the comment by Notch about releasing the source code as "some kind of open source" once sales drop off
[08:31] <Elions> Some cities have less habitants than there are people who own minecraft
[08:31] <Elions> So it's unlikely
[08:32] <Elions> at least, anytime soon.
[08:32] <Myrtti> well there is a saturation point to it all
[08:32] <Myrtti> what keeps the sales going is new ways Minecraft is being used
[08:33] <DJones> Xbox version looks to sell for £17 ish, that'd be around 70M xbox minecraft sales needed to break even
[08:34] <diplo> + the income from Xbox Gold to use it?
[08:38] <DJones> Ahh, thinking about it, its probably not got anything to do with the game, they just want to by copyright/patents :)
[08:49] <pulse> hi
[08:49] <pulse> when do jobs start at in uk on average?
[08:49] <pulse> can someone tell me? :P
[08:49] <pulse> (i mean what hour of the day)
[08:51] <diplo> Between 8-9am
[08:51] <diplo> I start at 8 as do quite a few of my friends, depends on the job I guess
[08:53] <DJones> If you're a postman, its probably around 5am
[08:54] <DJones> Typical shift work would be 6am-2pm, 2pm-10pm, 10pm-6am
[08:58] <popey> my previous job had "core" hours between 10 and 4 which you had to be in the office for, but they didn't care about the start/end time
[08:58] <popey> so if you came in early, you could go out early
[08:59] <pulse> thanks :)
[09:13] <directhex> pulse: it largely depends on office culture
[09:14] <directhex> pulse: e.g. i set off the alarm for my current job on my third day by arriving at 10am
[09:14] <pulse> well, i think each country has an average of its own
[09:14] <pulse> here in slovenia jobs usually start at 8
[09:15] <pulse> it's no rule though, i was wondering when i can contact some firm in the uk :P
[09:15] <pulse> i contacted them successfully now so no worries
[09:17] <Myrtti> when I was a kid I thought all the jobs in Finland started at 7
[09:20] <ThomasRedstone> lol, office jobs are traditionally 9-5:30, but there are increasingly jobs that either specify an earlier start, say 8:30, and later end, around 6:00, or where pressure of the work, and the culture forces people to work longer hours without it being in their contract...
[09:22] <DJones> Bankers are at the office between 5am and 8pm, 1st & last 3 hours of the day to shred the incriminating paperwork
[09:24] <ThomasRedstone> from what I've heard a lot of that time is wasted (at a junior level), and the later time is the actual work, because they only actually get the stuff they've been waiting on towards the end of the day, crazy bankers
[09:25] <ThomasRedstone> anyone here been using Netflix on Ubuntu? I've got it working by upgrading lnbnss3 to the version used 14.10, but it's unstable (which might be purely down to the fact I'm using a different OS's deb files...)
[09:25] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:25] <bigcalm> Anybody here make use of Checkpoint VPN?
[09:26] <davmor2> bigcalm: NO
[09:26] <bigcalm> davmor2: DAMN
[09:28] <popey> i used to
[09:28] <popey> when i worked in an office with silly windows rubbish
[09:28] <bigcalm> :(
[09:29] <ThomasRedstone> bigcalm, what's your real question? Maybe someone knows something...
[09:31] <davmor2> popey: but windows let in light into the office, without windows you would be able to see unless they have those new fangled electric lights!
[09:31]  * popey notes his blind is shut
[09:36] <ThomasRedstone> popey, my curtains too, what is wrong with us?!
[09:37] <davmor2> it's the sun it burnses us, the precious
[09:37] <ThomasRedstone> Freelancer.com sent me an email with the subject "Are you capturing your mobile users?", where the hell do they expect me keep them all?! I'm not some evil super villain!!!
[09:38] <davmor2> ThomasRedstone: surely you are the only person using your mobile
[09:39] <ThomasRedstone> a good point, my daughter does sometimes, and she's already kind of captured, she can't legally go anywhere without my permission! Muhahaha :-P
[10:10] <diplo> Recommendations of what to use other than Nagios, any preferred over another ?
[10:12] <diplo> OPsview/Icinga/Zabbix are what I was thinking of trying
[10:17] <foobarry> bleurgh
[10:17] <foobarry> doc says i have bronchitis
[10:37] <bigcalm> Tummy says I have hunger *gurgle*
[10:40] <davmor2> bigcalm: it lies
[10:41] <bigcalm> It makes me feel ill
[10:41]  * bigcalm reaches for the chewing gum
[10:42] <foobarry> diplo: adagios
[10:43] <foobarry> its nagios with the annoying bits fixed
[10:43] <bigcalm> foobarry: that sucks, I hope you get well soon
[10:44] <diplo> I've not seen that foobarry
[10:44]  * diplo takes a look
[10:45] <bigcalm> A possible alternative to nagios: https://github.com/intrbiz/bergamot
[10:46] <foobarry> i also had a 24hr sick bug yesterday to compound issues :(
[10:46] <foobarry> feeling v sorry for myself
[10:46] <diplo> demo is broke bigcalm, foobarry that looks quite nice
[10:46] <diplo> May play with it locally
[10:48] <bigcalm> diplo: it's by a guy from our LUG. He really needs more people to contribute and make the project great
[10:48] <diplo> Get him to fix the demo first then :D
[10:48] <diplo> I'll download later and try it locally
[10:48] <foobarry> adagios allows editing of config files , where nagios will overwrite and squash files badly
[10:48] <bigcalm> I'll prod him about the demo
[10:48] <foobarry> also its morepretty
[10:49] <diplo> yeah I noticed that, quite liked that
[10:54] <foobarry> where's this list of 5m gmail accounts that were compromised?
[10:57] <foobarry> think i've got it
[10:57] <foobarry> wow there's some lame passwords
[11:19] <intrbiz> bigcalm: hello there, thanks for plugging http://bergamot-monitoring.org/
[11:20] <Myrtti> eh
[11:21] <davmor2> intrbiz: wow dude what are you doing here ;)
[11:22] <bigcalm> o/
[11:22] <intrbiz> haha, dancing with the devil, something like that
[11:22] <intrbiz> is Ubuntu 14.10 shipping with systemd?
[11:22] <davmor2> intrbiz: dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight :)
[11:23] <bigcalm> davmor2: at the moon under water no doubt
[11:23] <intrbiz> mmmmm beer
[11:23] <foobarry> my wife's name is on the 5M google emails
[11:23] <davmor2> intrbiz: pass it's had bits for a while so I'm not sure
[11:23] <foobarry> is there a list of passwords associated with the 5m names?
[11:28] <davmor2> intrbiz: I would say it is more likely to land fully in 15.04 though but that is me guessing.
[11:28] <diddledan> foobarry: what's this about gmail accounts?
[11:28] <diddledan> (I just came in)
[11:28] <foobarry> list of 5M compromised gmail  accounts out there
[11:28] <diddledan> ooh
[11:28] <diddledan> not good
[11:29] <bigcalm> intrbiz: if it's the only thing stopping a .deb release, man up and write a init.d script ;)
[11:29] <davmor2> foobarry: the guys purged the passwords reading the news articles
[11:29] <bigcalm> intrbiz: or are there other bits of systemd that I'm missing?
[11:31] <foobarry> the first two letters of the pasword don't match with one she ever used
[11:32] <foobarry> have google ever distinguished between accounts with a "." in the name?
[11:35] <foobarry> looks like hte passwods are not for gmail accounts
[11:37] <diddledan> I'm not sure I understand the question
[11:37] <diddledan> gmail usernames with or without a . must be unique
[11:38] <diddledan> i.e. dan.llew and danllew are different usernames
[11:41] <foobarry> really? even in gmail?
[11:41] <foobarry> i thought i could send to foo.barry and foobarry and get both mails
[11:42] <foobarry> "Gmail doesn't recognize dots as characters within usernames, you can add or remove the dots from a Gmail address without changing the actual destination"
[11:42] <diddledan> weird
[11:42] <diddledan> that's odd behaviour
[11:43] <intrbiz> bigcalm: Its the initscript and log handling that I mainly rely on, nothing to major, just another bit of time
[11:44] <bigcalm> Fair enough. I think you need more contributors to the project :)
[11:46]  * bigcalm slithers off to lunch
[12:30] <mapps> yay
[12:30] <mapps> samsung motherboard here
[12:30] <popey> \o/ changed my launchpad name https://launchpad.net/~popey
[12:30]  * popey like sbears
[12:30] <popey> also bears
[12:30] <Azelphur> popey: now get your name changed by depol to that. :P
[12:31] <popey> hehe
[12:31] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZZHBxM70OI
[12:32] <Azelphur> hehe
[12:32] <Azelphur> popey: did you see my latest shenanigans in Bitcoin land?
[12:32] <popey> your job?
[12:33] <Azelphur> yea
[12:33] <popey> yeah, nice one.
[12:33] <Azelphur> that and I got randomly shipped to Berlin by ownCloud, having only heard about it 4 days prior
[12:37] <mapps> what you don re bitcoin
[12:37] <Azelphur> mapps: https://home.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=0d302c5f272a6614b4e0502df3360659 is my employment contract :P
[12:38] <mapps> lol cool
[12:38] <Azelphur> indeed, gonna be fun :)
[12:38] <mapps> think id be laughed at if i asked for that
[12:38] <mapps> i guess small company?
[12:38] <Azelphur> mapps: well, it was offered to me, they offered me any currency I liked
[12:39] <Azelphur> somewhat small, but they are in the Bitcoin realm which is why Bitcoin is an option
[12:39] <mapps> ah yea
[12:39] <mapps> somehow dont think bet365 will pay me in btc;p
[12:39] <mapps> i have to wait 6 weeks for pay after this month too..which blows
[12:40] <Azelphur> mapps: the fact that a site like bit365 doesn't accept BTC is a major loss for them :P
[12:40] <mapps> somehow bcause my pay date moves when i move to gibraltar ..quite annoying and i dont see why
[12:40] <Azelphur> the BTC casinos are /huge/ now
[12:40] <Azelphur> I made a tidy sum by investing in SatoshiDice
[12:40] <mapps> really?
[12:40] <Azelphur> yup
[12:40] <mapps> i dunno its too much hassle for me tbh
[12:40] <mapps> and for most people betting id imagine
[12:40] <mapps> login betfair type my 3 digits in moneys there
[12:41] <Azelphur> mapps: it circumvents gambling laws in USA, which is why its so popular.
[12:41] <mapps> yea
[12:41] <mapps> make a betting exchange with btc
[12:41] <mapps> that would be cool
[12:43] <Azelphur> hehe
[12:44] <mapps> the new iphones seem nice
[12:44] <mapps> and claim prety good battery life
[12:45] <Azelphur> mapps: sorry, I read the specs last night while giggling
[12:45] <mapps> pfff
[12:45] <mapps> the battery life was decent..no?
[12:46] <Azelphur> theverges article read like a comedy
[12:46] <mapps> i dont see the appeal of a smart watch tho
[12:46] <mapps> cant see what id want it for
[12:46] <Azelphur> mapps: yea, apparently it's a bit better battery wise
[12:46] <mapps> they claim 24hrs on one of them
[12:47] <Azelphur> the things that made me laugh were the 1334x750 "Retina HD woo shiny" display :P
[12:47] <mapps> heh
[12:47] <marxjohnson> Um, 24 hours battery life for the iphone?
[12:47] <mapps> ja
[12:47] <Azelphur> "Apple says it uses an all-new sensor with even larger pixels than before." made me burst out laughing
[12:47] <marxjohnson> If that's decent, what's it like on the 5?
[12:48] <mapps> way less than 24jrs lol
[12:48] <Azelphur> "Apple says the camera has a new autofocus system that uses pixels on the image sensor to focus even faster than before." what else is it gonna use, magic sky fairies? :P
[12:48] <marxjohnson> Oh dear. I wonder what they do differently that makes it eat power? Maybe I just have less power-hungry stuff on all the time on my Nexus
[12:48] <Azelphur> sorry...that article was so funny :x
[12:49] <mapps> yea my nexus7 lasts a long time
[12:49] <mapps> but my 5s if i actually do anything on it dies pretty quickly
[12:49] <Azelphur> marxjohnson: it's 24 hours of standby time, web browsing and such is only 10 hours.
[12:49] <Azelphur> and that 10 hours is probably with everything but the essentials turned off
[12:50] <marxjohnson> Holy crap
[12:50] <Azelphur> I imagine it's pretty much on par with other modern smartphones.
[12:50] <mapps> yea
[12:50] <Azelphur> mapps: on the watch, I really did like apples navigation thing, can't fault that in theory
[12:50] <Azelphur> and googles one is terrible
[12:50] <mapps> but who needs it
[12:50] <Azelphur> I'd use it
[12:51] <marxjohnson> Well when i was playing Sonic 4 on my Nexus that drained the battery in a few hours, but with normal usage (occasional calls/texts/browsing, TTS audio books) it lasts about 2 days
[12:51] <Azelphur> I walk places a lot
[12:51] <mapps> so do i..but use your phone for stuff?
[12:52] <Azelphur> mapps: it's another stage in miniaturisation and portability, on the same basis, use your laptop for stuff ;)
[12:53] <Azelphur> the watches are mostly useful for notifications though, it's a pain to pull your phone out just to find out you got an email that could have been viewed with a glance at your wrist.
[12:54] <marxjohnson> Plus you get to feel like you're in Thunderbirds
[12:56] <Azelphur> indeed, great fun talking to your watch and freaking people out
[13:01] <diplo> Azelphur, I got round the email alerts by only having alerts/noises on emails I care about. Family/friends and a few important ones make a notification sound etc where as everything else just slips through
[13:01] <Azelphur> I see, I prefer to not miss anything :)
[13:06] <mapps> how long you in germany for?
[13:08] <Azelphur> mapps: I'm not in Germany any more, I came back last Monday :)
[13:09] <mapps> oh
[13:20] <mapps> hm cool got 4g where i am atm
[13:20] <mapps> normally only use my orange 3g contract..luckily one of thems ending in 2 weeks:D
[13:21] <mapps> still got 18months on my ee one tho and i wont be here..dunno if its worth phoning ..im not gonna pay it off may aswell keep it if thats the case
[13:22] <Azelphur> ouch
[13:22] <Azelphur> mapps: going to Berlin?
[13:23] <mapps> nah
[13:23] <mapps> gibraltar
[13:23] <mapps> but gt 2 contracts atm orange unlimited 3g iphone 5
[13:23] <mapps> ee iphone 5s 5gig 4g
[13:23] <mapps> didnt really want 2 while im not here..so luckily 1 runs out
[13:23] <mapps> i could try and lower the tarrif on ee one i guess
[13:24] <Azelphur> mapps: or sell it to someone that wants it
[13:24] <mapps> nah then if theyre up to no good its under my name:D
[13:25] <Azelphur> spose
[13:50] <directhex> 10T sata rust drives announced by hgst @_@
[14:04] <popey> wowzers
[14:04]  * popey looks at the 12 bays in his microserver and ponders 12x10TB
[14:07] <diddledan> popey: they have 12 bays?!
[14:07] <popey> 4 internal, 8 external
[14:07] <diddledan> aah
[14:08] <davmor2> popey: why you ponder that, what flowers would you like at your funeral when you're beloved finds out an kills you? ;)
[14:08] <diddledan> I wonder how quickly you could fill up a 120TB array?!
[14:09] <diddledan> I suggest running a `for i in /dev/sd??; do dd if=/dev/zero of=$i; done` first... might take a few days to complete :-p
[14:10] <intrbiz> Seagate (sort of) announced 8TB drives the other week.  Sadly it looks like HGST are having to use SMR to get the 10TB, which will dent perf somewhat
[14:10] <diddledan> intrbiz: SMR?
[14:10] <intrbiz> shingled magnetic recording
[14:14] <popey> i could keep backups for longer
[14:30] <ujjain> are credit cards used for paying rent? seems like a good idea to use a 2% unlimited cash back credit card for your rent
[14:30] <ujjain> that 2% is 240 yearly for me
[14:43] <diddledan> ujjain: no
[14:44] <diddledan> ujjain: it is usually cash, cheque, debit or directdebit
[14:47] <SuperEngineer> "Following the death of his pet rat, Pepeijn Bruins decided he wanted to have it stuffed and attach three propellers."
[14:47] <SuperEngineer> is that really what happens on the Real Ale Train?
[14:48] <diddledan> yey for getting "stuffed" drinking ale
[15:03] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[15:16] <davmor2> SuperEngineer: only before the party starts, afterwards they are too busy playing pass the ratcopter
[15:27]  * SuperEngineer likes the idea of a ratcopter
[15:27] <mapps> ujjain,  nah places charge a fee for using cc
[15:28] <ujjain> ah right
[15:28] <mapps> like booking flights and hotels :( else id use a cashback card all the time
[15:28] <mapps> ive had like £60 of m&s vouchers so far his year:D
[15:28] <ujjain> ah right fair point
[15:28] <ujjain> I remember having such experiences
[15:28] <mapps> i get cashback on my m&s mastercard
[15:28] <mapps> i get cashback on my barclays american express BUT not everywhere takes it anyway
[15:29] <SuperEngineer> mapps - keep a gun in same pocket as wallet... you'd be serprised how much cash back you get ;)
[15:29] <mapps> heh
[15:30] <mapps> its obv known not everywhere takes amex..as its 1 account but 2cards.an amex and a mastercard..the amex has cashback and 0 abroad fees:D
[15:30] <mapps> hm i didnt know you were allowed lighters or matches in hand luggage..had to chuck some cool matches we got in a bar in Latvia..but yet at the airport accidently had a lighter on me and they said its ok
[15:31] <mapps> i was sure you werent allowed O_o
[15:33] <SuperEngineer> [probably the phosphorous in the matches that frightened them... silly huh?]
[15:34] <SuperEngineer> [as if you could do anything nasty with phosphorous!]
[15:34] <mapps> no i mean i chucked them in the bin at hotel
[15:34] <mapps> but a lighter is ok?!
[15:34] <SuperEngineer> in other words - they were correct
[15:34] <mapps> i thought lighters.matches everything was banned
[15:35] <SuperEngineer> provoded it's only got lighter fuel in it - it can't do anything more than explode, surely?
[15:35] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[15:35] <mapps> well thats enough
[15:35] <mapps> you could start a fire!
[15:36] <SuperEngineer> guess the NSA & GCHQ have now just started this channel lol
[15:36] <SuperEngineer> ...& having mentioned them... hmmmmmmmm
[15:36] <diddledan> I think the NSA and GCHQ have been monitoring this channel for some time - I'm here
[15:37] <diddledan> surely my presence is enough to warrant surveilance, no?
[15:37] <mapps> ;]
[15:38] <SuperEngineer> diddledan [no, probably only the crime squad]  :D
[15:39]  * SuperEngineer likes Gregg Proops advice to all peeps who send him mail following his podcast... add a little hate message for the NSA
[15:40] <SuperEngineer> [last one was "if you're going to do that in the office - clean up after you]
[15:41] <SuperEngineer> expletives deleted of course
[15:52] <mapps> itd be ok to leave a raspberry pi on for 6months while im away wouldnt it?
[15:52] <diddledan> yeah
[15:52] <mapps> just wanted to leave squid and openVPN running on it so i can use stuff like bbc iplayer
[15:52] <mapps> 4od
[15:53] <mapps> etc
[15:53] <mapps> i thought about leaving my dell desktop (old machine i use as server) but i feel its a bad idea?
[15:53] <diddledan> at 5volt/1amp it'll barely register on any leccy bill
[15:53] <mapps> im not meaning that
[15:53] <mapps> i mean like no chance of a fire or something
[15:53] <mapps> leaving my old dell desktop on for 6-12months would be dodgy?
[16:13] <daftykins> i was rudely awoken today my a stern knock at the door
[16:13] <daftykins> i dragged myself out of bed which was quite painful due to not having had my morning pain meds yet, and high-tailed it down there
[16:13] <daftykins> nobody on the street, too slow =|
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> yeah gads! I'm either running my pooters on coal or someone locally just lit a coal fire -and I'm *not* running pooters on coal!
[16:14] <daftykins> then again later! caught him that time though, all for a pesky gas meter reader =|
[16:14] <daftykins> SuperEngineer: feeling some heat?
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> pooooooooh!
[16:14] <daftykins> Winnie, the?
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: nah - smelling the smell
[16:14] <daftykins> ah i see
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> lol
[16:17]  * SuperEngineer hears sheep bleating - assume they don't like the smell either
[16:18] <bigcalm> Are there any better Markdown editors than ReText?
[16:19] <daftykins> just sent a client an email to see if they'll read the serial number off a NAS i put in for them so i can get the £35 rebate - fingers crossed!
[16:20] <SuperEngineer> you hum it - I'll sing it!
[16:20]  * daftykins blinks
[16:20] <SuperEngineer> ^ for bigcalm
[16:20] <daftykins> i want what SuperEngineer's having
[16:21] <bigcalm> SuperEngineer: you've lost me
[16:21] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: it's called "on leave" - it's a rare earth material
[16:21] <daftykins> mmm leaves
[16:22] <SuperEngineer> spoil sport
[16:23] <SuperEngineer> ..but honest - no leaves [well tobacco is/are leaves I sippose - but nowt else
[16:24] <SuperEngineer> [don't worry - I'm off to see daughter tomorrow - i'll you in peace then ;)  ]
[16:24] <SuperEngineer> *leave you
[16:24] <daftykins> lol
[16:25] <daftykins> i'm playing some more Destiny on my new xbox one which i bought yesterday
[16:25] <SuperEngineer> did you choose destiny or was that the "enforced" freebie?
[16:26] <daftykins> choice yeah, it was on offer
[16:26] <SuperEngineer> nice one!
[16:26] <daftykins> they had none of the consoles in with the silly Kinect device so i thought meh, no harm in getting the one without :D
[16:26] <daftykins> so i got the console + game for £291
[16:27] <SuperEngineer> yeh - less chance of NSA looking at the silly faces we make when playing games
[16:28] <daftykins> :D
[16:28] <daftykins> agreed
[16:28] <daftykins> but i really don't get this voice control fascination
[16:28] <daftykins> it's totally unpleasant to me, i never even found myself wanting to try it on my smartphone
[16:28] <SuperEngineer> £291?!!! - ypu could have given me £100 and I'd have given you an ex-box!
[16:29] <SuperEngineer> emphasis on *ex*-box
[16:29] <SuperEngineer> :D
[16:29] <daftykins> that'll be my VAT-less benefit yeah ;)
[16:29] <daftykins> i am quite impressed by HMV Guernsey, they were practically within £3 of amazon UK's price
[16:30] <SuperEngineer> wow - also impressed
[16:30] <daftykins> so i figured i'd prefer walking the ~150m rather than waiting for delivery :D
[16:32] <SuperEngineer> I can do the £/metre maths there - that's good value
[16:34] <daftykins> :D
[16:34] <daftykins> i did have to carry it in my one good arm mind you ;)
[16:35] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hhdxqw6zm40opvo/AABr7vB7JayyUR60cxW8YERAa?dl=0
[16:37] <popey> I'm with daftykins
[16:37] <popey> voice control. pah
[16:38] <directhex> but for skyrim?
[16:38] <directhex> fus ro DAH!
[16:40] <bigcalm> Where are .desktop files stored globally?
[16:41] <bigcalm> Oh, found them, ta
[16:47] <bigcalm> So, anybody used uberwriter? :)
[16:48] <popey> looks like pyroom
[16:49] <bigcalm> I'm trying to find a decent Markdown editor that will allow me to include CSS when exporting to HTML
[16:49] <bigcalm> Uberwriter does so, but it's a bit buggy
[16:49] <popey> patches welcome
[16:49] <popey> ☻
[16:49] <bigcalm> ReText isn't buggy but doesn't offer that option
[16:49] <intrbiz> bigcalm: have you looked at somethink like jekyl?
[16:49] <bigcalm> intrbiz: is that a KDE app?
[16:50] <intrbiz> bigcalm: where you can apply templates to the MD, nah its a Ruby servery thingy
[16:50] <intrbiz> bigcalm: it what github uses to do their pages stuff - http://jekyllrb.com/
[16:51] <bigcalm> Ah. Looks overkill, but I'll have a play with it. Ta :)
[16:52] <intrbiz> bigcalm: MD does allow you to inline HTML, should you might be able to cheat and munge in a style block
[16:54] <Pendulum> daftykins: I do like that voice control makes things more accessible to disabled people. Personally, I have a love/hate relationship.
[17:01] <davmor2> bigcalm: emacs, emacs does everything, or vim vim does everything :D
[17:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: have you had a look at sublime I think there are a few people using that.
[17:05] <bigcalm> davmor2: I thought sublime was Mac only
[17:06] <davmor2> bigcalm: pass
[17:06] <davmor2> bigcalm: http://www.sublimetext.com/2
[17:06] <bigcalm> Ta
[17:07] <davmor2> bigcalm: I don't know what it can do and not do I just see it's name banded around by devs
[17:07] <bigcalm> $70
[17:08] <bigcalm> I'll see if my current IDE can export MD to HTML
[17:09] <davmor2> bigcalm: it does say free for evaluation it doesn't say how long evaluation is :)
[18:21] <MartijnVdS> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/09/10/guilty-sales-guy/
[19:11] <popey> anyone know someone into debian packaging who wants some contract work? https://plus.google.com/u/0/116915640151584325691/posts/PYh6TGSGZEJ
[19:29] <ujjain> Are sleeping at work and playing pc games at work valid rasons to get fired?
[19:30] <daftykins> no to the first if you're in Japan, but i'd hope so for the majority of cases :D
[19:32] <popey> Depends if there's guidelines that say don't do either of those things.
[19:33] <popey> I saw an article recently about Googlers who sleep at work to avoid paying rent
[19:33] <popey> and I know people who play games at work, but they work for game developers... sooo....
[19:33] <daftykins> haha
[19:34] <daftykins> hmm just grep'd that leaked gmail password text file for my addy and some others
[19:34] <daftykins> no sign
[19:34] <daftykins> thankfully
[19:34] <ujjain> our guidelines say we can be subjected to drug tests
[19:34] <ujjain> not that I use drugs, but still seems like you should be able to do what you want in your free time
[19:35] <ujjain> yeah, my gmail address wasnt in the list either, fortunately
[19:35] <ujjain> although I use a unique password for my gmail address that I dont use anywhere else
[19:42] <daftykins> a friend did research work in Japan, it's considered a high mark of professionalism to have fallen asleep at your desk
[19:42] <daftykins> what with the crazy hours they put in, etc
[19:43] <ujjain> hmm, but everybody is so close to eachother at my company
[19:44] <ujjain> I couldn´t, but I hear stories about people arriving 3am at the company after going and waking up at 8am and work
[19:44] <shauno> I don't seem to get in trouble for napping.  I get in trouble for snoring.  apparently that makes the difference.
[19:44] <ujjain> ah me too, buffalo ujjain :(
[19:45] <daftykins> XD
[19:46] <shauno> the difference seems to be we can nap if there's no-one in sight.  but I can't snore unless the floor (and the floor below) are empty :/
[19:48] <ujjain> they can make silencers for bazooka´s, why not for me :-( I´m sure I make less sound than them