[11:10] morning [11:27] morniung [14:45] Morning [14:53] Yay, my keyboard showed up again. :) [14:53] So now I have my keyobard good as new. [14:53] I think they replaced the switches on it. [14:53] Feels pretty new. [14:54] woot [14:54] yeah [14:54] Makes me happy. :) [14:56] cmaloney your leopold broke? [15:10] widox: It was giving me ghost keypresses. [15:11] Ooh... haunted keyboard. [15:18] fun [15:19] I get double presses sometimes - kind of annoying [15:19] widox: Check and see if you still have warranty coverage [15:28] yayayayayay http://r.bmark.us/u/cb2e24e3d9e209 [15:28] jcastro ran away and doesn't want to see it [15:33] Yeah, people are crowing about it [15:49] That's awesome news [16:25] somebody just opened a pull request with this line: "cat /dev/null > newfile.txt" [16:25] would there be a reason to do that instead of just touch? [16:28] just to be cute? [16:29] I can't think of any reason [16:35] yeah before I said something I wanted to check [16:37] rewrite it as "ls /dev/null >> newfile.txt"? :-D [16:42] echo -n > newfile.txt [16:43] trevlar: Only reason I can think of is if touch is not installed on a machine [16:43] which I'd consider a bug [16:43] also: touch won't empty a file, it'll just change the timestamp [16:43] whereas cat / echo will create new files [16:44] bah, that's the reason right there. [16:44] ^ [16:45] cmaloney: ah yep [16:47] I don't always have brain farts but when I do everyone gets to enjoy the smell [16:47] or something like that. [16:48] mrgoodcat: Bookiebot is awol again? [16:51] i'm sure he is [16:51] i've been having networking issues [16:51] hang on [16:54] .np squeekyhoho [16:54] squeekyhoho's current track - Enjoy The Pain by 16volt on American Porn Songs [16:54] tx [16:54] np [16:55] trevlar: if touch does not exist? [16:56] jrwren: it does. the line in question is in a provisioning script for an ubuntu 14.04 image for vagrant [16:57] I think cmaloney is right. to empty the file if it already exists [17:02] yes, he is. I had not caught up. [17:04] oh, silly me. I forgot how cat worked. Too long away from the CLI. [17:04] My suggested alternate would be a touch replacement though. [17:05] plus create the file if the file did not already exist [17:13] it may seem like a small victory but i have to share it. i got my chromebook running arch with no issues at all that i can see [17:13] personal victory [17:14] had to compile 3.17-rc4 myself though since 3.16 doesn't support my touchpad [17:14] Arch? We care only about Ubuntu here. [17:15] fine [17:15] linux [17:15] happy? [17:15] GNU/Linux [17:15] that is a pretty new kernel. [17:16] yep [17:16] I'm still running 3.11 and 14.04 only ships 3.13 [17:16] 3.17 is the first with support for the c720 hardware [17:17] chromebook already is Linux! [17:18] so is android, but its not a good linux. [17:19] Chromebook is more Linuxy [17:19] how?! [17:19] You can get a shell [17:19] chromebook is pretty good linux actually [17:19] because it has a terminal hidden away? [17:20] * rick_h_ is cranky and grumbly today watch out [17:20] you can install ubuntu in a chroot on it [17:20] And install chroots. Oh wait, you can do that on Android too [17:20] oh wtf you guys are crazy [17:20] just because I can put linux on a calculator and run `ls` doesn't mean people with that calculator are 'running linux' or 'linux users' [17:21] rick_h_: Who peed in your coffee today? [17:21] brousch_: I don't know. It's just been peed in [17:21] and I'm unhappy about it all :P [17:21] Hung over from Apple Day? [17:22] who? no I didn't eat any apples today [17:22] that whole company can go diaf and I don't care. They could release a flying self driving car and I'd still not care. [17:23] But ... CUPS! [17:23] if I want to print I go to the printers [17:24] rick_h_: chromeos is a gentoo derivation [17:24] i thought CUPS was maintained by apache now? [17:24] If there's no compiling then it's not gentoo stylin' [17:24] mrgoodcat: that's nice, but so are fridges out there, and tvs, that doesn't make them linux users [17:24] OK, I'm actually having trouble coming up with another thing Apple does that a Linux user cares remotely about [17:25] sue companies? [17:25] I'm having trouble figuring out why chrome isn't linux [17:25] ChromeOS is Linux! [17:25] chromeos is not a linux distribution [17:25] cmaloney: why not? [17:25] chromeos is a tv [17:25] and that tv is pointed at one channel, www.xxx.com carry on [17:26] mrgoodcat: I can't install applications on ChromeOS, I can install applications into Chrome [17:26] or course it is linux, so is android, that does not make it good or usable. [17:26] an IBM san switch is linux. [17:26] Linux is everywhere. [17:26] https://dyladan.me/#!blog/c720-compile.md [17:26] http://goo.gl/gvxG4J - MDwiki [17:26] Like the Buddha [17:27] Ut oh, we pissed off jcastro [17:28] what makes you think that? [17:28] He left, but came back [17:29] ah. i have quits and such ignored [17:31] mrgoodcat: So the c720 touchpad is included in that newer kernel? [17:32] yea [17:33] Shitty smartwatch app idea: Display ads on your wrist for money [17:33] was contributed by the chrome team so it works like a charm [17:33] nice [17:33] Like a juju charm? [17:33] not quite [17:34] problem is now i'm using a custom compiled kernel i have to watch for security updates if i want them then i have to recompile [17:34] But Linux is unbreakable [17:34] oh yea i forgot [17:35] forgive me if i still watch the security mailing list [17:37] Hey, when people are out to get you paranoia is only good thinking. [17:41] Did somebody say Gentoo? :-D [17:41] lol [17:41] yes gentoo was mentioned [17:42] Gentoo FTW! [17:43] compile all the source code! [17:44] i had to compile the kernel this morning [17:44] if i ever was going to use gentoo, that killed any chance of me ever actually doing it [17:44] compile on my 2GB, 2 core chromebook [17:45] celeron 2955U [17:46] I just looked. There are approx 250 fart apps in the Play store, but no app to make a sound to cover up an actual fart [17:46] Yeah... I used to love doing that stuff. Then one day I realized I had better things to do with my time than wait for a bunch of updates to compile on a near-daily basis. [17:46] brousch_: no sound will cover up a fart [17:47] a cough! [17:49] So I'm thinking about a smartwatch app that turns up your phone's volume and sets off your ring tone. You would use this to cover up the sound of a fart [17:50] brousch_: it needs to be motion triggered. [17:50] if you shake your arm around like a monkey it activates [17:50] Like trigger it by waving your hand back and forth like you are disbursing a bad odor? [17:50] dispersing [17:51] I don't think that's necessary. It will look like you are just checking your watch [17:51] Need a good mercury switch and have it triggered by lifting one butt cheek [17:52] of course, it would probably then go off every time you move at all [17:52] Which is more socially awkward? Letting a loud fart or your phone going off at full volume? [17:55] Well, once you establish the pattern that your phone rings loudly and the room immediately stinks.... [17:55] It's lose-lose [17:58] You'd need to have a colon sensor [17:58] CHC tonight party people [17:58] woo woo [17:58] reminder reminder reminder [17:59] rick_h_: Was it cmaloney's colon comment that triggered your CHC reminder? [18:00] brousch_: or just I can't wait for today to be over and to get there [18:00] I'm not sure which scares me more: code that doesn't work, or code that seems to work the first time. [18:02] https://bmark.us/bmark/readable/fa31be86e53d10 [18:03] .np squeekyhoho [18:03] squeekyhoho's current track - Scin by I:Scintilla on The Approach [18:09] Streaming music? [18:17] akelling: Local collection [18:18] o okay [18:18] http://mp3tribute.com/ [18:18] http://goo.gl/YIO7gO - #MP3Tribute [18:18] You can pick the album (and others) from this site. [18:20] Thanks [18:20] np [18:20] "All albums are released under a Creative Commons BY NC ND 3.0 license by their respective artists." [18:20] :/ "good enough" I guess [18:21] good enough? :) [18:21] I think that's flipping awesome. :) [18:21] CC0 or death. [18:21] :) [18:22] jrwren: Hope you enjoy the early part of the 20th century [18:22] i'm j/k of course. [18:23] jesus, today must be international petiton / call in day. [18:23] what else? [18:23] Citizens United, Internet Slowdown [18:23] Tell Scott Walker he's a dick [18:23] !sms gary lol n00b [18:24] damn wrong channel [18:32] doh [18:37] it must be, since I'm volonteering at a phone bank tonight :) [18:54] vogonteering? Is that where you go around writing deadly bad poetry? [18:56] Maybe. It is definitely not where one learns to spell.