[00:00] <uselessn00b> back!
[00:00] <SP33D> echo Acquire::GzipIndexes "false" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02nogz
[00:00] <SP33D> will fix that right?
[00:01] <SP33D> or is it echo APT::Acquire::GzipIndexes "false" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02nogz
[00:01] <uselessn00b> TJ-: What was that command you wanted me to run?
[00:01] <k1l_> just open it with sudo nano and change that to false by hand
[00:03] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Ahhh, maybe you need 'sudo': "sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[00:03] <Michael87> Anyone know how to change the time from military to normal on cairo? I'm tryying it out as a replacement to unity
[00:04] <uselessn00b> TJ-: "Unable to read from: /var/log/syslog"
[00:06] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Is it missing? "ls -l /var/log/syslog"
[00:06] <TJ-> Michael87: That's sometimes configurable via the Locale/Language > Time and Date setttings
[00:07] <uselessn00b> It says that I cannot access it.
[00:07] <TJ-> uselessn00b: OK, so are you working with a user account that doesn't have "sudo" rights? do "groups" and see if "sudo" is listed amongst the groups your user is a member of
[00:08] <uselessn00b> "video sudo plugdev audio"
[00:08] <TJ-> uselessn00b: OK, it is, so try "sudo ls -l /var/log/syslog"
[00:09] <Michael87> TJ general settings wasn't changing it in cairo dock session. Its a customization in cairo dock. Again giving it a wirl. Been using unity for over a year and wanted to give something different a shot other then kde of course. I always liked the Cairo dock but it needs some tweaks
[00:09] <TJ-> Michael87: So the dock is ignore the settings?
[00:09] <uselessn00b> that is lower case L and -L (lower case), right?
[00:09] <TJ-> useless, it is
[00:09] <Michael87> TJ-, yeah I know right?
[00:10] <uselessn00b> Not working...
[00:10] <Michael87> TJ-, the cairo dock has its own settings. Trying to figure it out
[00:10] <TJ-> uselessn00b: What does "not working" mean?
[00:10] <uselessn00b> ls: cannot access -: no such file or directory.
[00:10] <TJ-> uselessn00b: What have you done to that system!?
[00:10] <Michael87> TJ-, I'll get there. it reminds me manually changing it with lubuntu. Probably the same method will work
[00:10] <uselessn00b> I just installed it a couple nights ago. o_O
[00:11] <Bashing-om> uselessn00b: I too find it hard to believe that file does not exist. what returns -> ls -al /var/log/
[00:11] <TJ-> uselessn00b: "sudo ls -latr /var/log/" --- do you see any log files/directories?
[00:11] <uselessn00b> Bashing-om: That did something.
[00:11] <TJ-> uselessn00b: We need *specific accurate* feedback from you; we can't guess what you're seeing!
[00:12] <uselessn00b> Sorry!
[00:12] <uselessn00b> Uh, should I paste bin it?
[00:12] <TJ-> uselessn00b: E.g. ... "it listed about 20 files and 5 directories, some of which were named ..."
[00:12] <uselessn00b> yeah, that.
[00:12] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Yes please - pastebin is our lifeline
[00:12] <uselessn00b> Uh, I'm so useless.
[00:12] <uselessn00b> Living up to the name.
[00:12] <uselessn00b> Hold on.
[00:13] <OerHeks> my best guess the issue is in the proposed repo
[00:13] <TJ-> uselessn00b: No you're not, you're doing it, you just lack a little specificity, but you're learning rapidly
[00:13] <uselessn00b> I'm having trouble paste binning it now.
[00:13] <uselessn00b> something to do with my syntax surely.
[00:13] <Bashing-om> uselessn00b: It is a thought process, and a process of learning ( TJ- teaches me bunches !) .
[00:14] <uselessn00b> Tell me it's unable to read from ls
[00:14] <TJ-> uselessn00b: putting this all together with the networking issue and missing syslog file I'm beginning to lean towards there being something faulty with the PC itself, such as RAM modules corrupting. It might be worth doing a reboot and running the "memtest86+" RAM module tester
[00:15] <TJ-> uselessn00b: "pastebinit < <(sudo ls -altr /var/log/) "
[00:15] <uselessn00b> Failed to connect to server?
[00:16] <TJ-> uselessn00b: network issue then, the PC lost connectivity?
[00:16] <Bashing-om> uselessn00b: Are you doing -> ls -al /var/log/ | pastebinit <- . that works for me !
[00:17] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Let's check on the state of the interface: "sudo iwconfig wlan0" and tell us the last line it reports - the numbers of the 3 types of errors
[00:17] <uselessn00b> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8304500/
[00:17] <TJ-> uselessn00b: It'll look similar to "Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:390   Missed beacon:0"
[00:18] <coolstar> is there a way I can encrypt my home folder in linux?
[00:18] <coolstar> I don't want to create a new user account, I want to encrypt my existing home folder
[00:18] <uselessn00b> iwconfig not found
[00:19] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Something very wrong: "cat /etc/issue" what does that report?
[00:19] <TJ-> coolstar: Yes. the ecryptfs tools
[00:19] <uselessn00b> "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[00:20] <uselessn00b> Oh, I don't know if this is relevant but I'm fairly certain I have installed Linux to an SD card.
[00:20] <coolstar> TJ-: so how do I use it?
[00:20] <TJ-> coolstar: "man ecryptfs-setup-private"
[00:20] <TJ-> coolstar: If not installed, "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils"
[00:21] <zerick> Hi folks, I'm measuring execution time with time command, and I'm a little concern about time builtin, I'm using /usr/bin/time instead in order to get different output but I'm seeing that formats are differente between builtin and proper time command.
[00:22] <TJ-> uselessn00b: There's a lot missing from /var/log/ that is created at boot, important log files created by core system services. For those to be missing, something is very wrong. If you have no valuable data on there, I'd suggest a total clean reinstall since we can't trust the system to be in a sane state
[00:22] <zerick> I'd like to know which is the equivalent for "real" in the non-builtin time command output (/usr/bin/time)
[00:23] <uselessn00b> TJ-: Oh, damn. I spent so much time just trying to install this the other day!
[00:23] <TJ-> zerick: Don't you just need "--portability" ?
[00:23] <uselessn00b> TJ-: Is it because I have it installed to an SD card?
[00:23] <Bashing-om> TJ-: uselessn00b :: I am in a learning mode here, useless shows only 20 files, for reference useless >http://paste.ubuntu.com/8304481/ <- I have 87 and suslogs is among them .
[00:24] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Installation target should have no affect; everything is a block device as far as Linux is concerned
[00:25] <spearhead> Bashing-om, I would say you have a lot more log files because your computer has been running for a lot longer
[00:27] <Bashing-om> spearhead: Partly true, but look at the logs that useless doesn't not have ?
[00:27] <uselessn00b> Should my laptop normally be visible on a Windows network?
[00:28] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Not unless the samba utilities are installed - not sure if they are installed by default, probably so
[00:29] <trustythar1404> ubuntu 14.04 is very good system
[00:30] <uselessn00b> Can I try installing them before doing a clean install?
[00:30] <spearhead> Bashing-om, yeah, that is odd... he doesn't even have auth.log...
[00:30] <TJ-> uselessn00b: Don't cause yourself more grief; do a clean standard reinstall
[00:41] <Guest27054> sdf
[00:41] <Guest27054> hello
[00:41] <truerock> Hellp
[00:41] <truerock> hello
[00:41] <apb1963> Hello
[00:41]  * truerock sighs
[00:41]  * apb1963 gasps
[00:43] <kareneiner> hola
[00:43] <truerock> Just installed Xubuntu 14.04 ... easy as falling off a log. :D
[00:43] <kareneiner> esto que es
[00:43] <apb1963> !es-ubuntu
[00:43] <kareneiner> what is this?
[00:44] <truerock> Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[00:44] <truerock> says so right in the header :D
[00:44] <kareneiner> y para que es?
[00:44] <kareneiner> como funciona
[00:44] <apb1963> !ubuntu
[00:45] <truerock> We're here to learn to ski and do our taxes.
[00:45] <zerick> TJ-, are both the same? I'm seeing quite different output, but I won't be sure because of the number of units
[00:46] <evenprime> Is there a program that can essentially run a website (web-app like trello) as a standalone desktop app? With a google search I found something called Fogger, which appears to be broken for 14.04
[00:50] <Shag__> I just installed gnome core on 14.04 for a vnc session, I installed synaptic package mgr. and cannont open it.  what am I missing
[00:54] <ryan_46> Shag__: Type synaptic into a terminal and see what it says. Does it open it?
[00:54] <Snuggyfoo> Does anyone here run a mail server on a commercial internet connect (eg comcast)?
[00:55] <Shag__> will check now
[00:55] <compdoc> Snuggyfoo, why?
[00:55] <Daryl_> Is LXC hard to setup on Ubuntu?
[00:56] <Snuggyfoo> I'm trying to set my web server up with SSL from SmartSSL, however, it needs a working email to verify ownership.
[00:56] <Snuggyfoo> Open to other options
[00:56] <Shag__> it says starting without admin privileges
[00:56] <Snuggyfoo> As far as I know my ISPs ips are blacklisted according to mxtoolbox
[00:57] <ryan_46> Shag__: Right so you would sudo snaptic to use it.
[00:57] <compdoc> email address is likely some proof of who you are
[00:58] <Shag__> shouldn't I be able to access it from the gui?  I used xfce4 before and didn't have to type that into terminal?
[00:58] <jobbahut> hi
[00:58]  * RedDeath Back
[00:58] <jobbahut> i have a new box
[00:58] <Snuggyfoo> compdoc, yeah it's to verify ownership of the domain
[00:58] <ryan_46> Shag__: Yes you should be able to gui it.
[00:59] <jimbob> can anyone give me a little direction on booting live usb ubuntu 14.04 on secure boot Asus entry level laptop please? not sure what info on my rig you might need in order to help direct me, but its a windows 8, asus laptop, 64bit, secure boot. i only see one boot option in boot setup
[00:59] <jobbahut> created a new user and my shell looks like: [root@br3 etc]# <-- like this, how do i change the br3 globally?
[00:59] <Shag__> ryan_46: it does nothing by gui
[01:00] <ryan_46> Shag__: I am not sure how to make it gui. Someone else might know.
[01:00] <juiced> jobbahut: edit your hostname, or change your bash prompt for a kludge
[01:01] <Shag__> thanks ryan_46,  Just seems odd. like I don't have correct permissions or something like that cuz I cant open settings or download anything either.
[01:02] <ryan_46> Shag__: Welcome. Keep asking. Wish you well.
[01:02] <Shag__> thanks
[01:03] <jimbob> is there only certain variants of linux that are able to boot with windows 8 secure boot?
[01:04] <OerHeks> jimbob, disable fastboot in windows8, and see this manual
[01:04] <OerHeks> !uefi
[01:05] <jimbob> thank you.  tried disabling secure boot, but didnt look in to fastboot.  thanks, ill give it a shot
[01:05] <OerHeks> i dont have this bios, so can't help you else this manual
[01:06] <jimbob> i appreciate it.
[01:06] <OerHeks> yeah, disable fastboot is the best 1st step i know sofar.
[01:10] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone;  i am running ubuntu 14.04; and i have configured my network manager settings to use google's public DNS but for instance when i dig a random website name, say deadbaby.com; i get ;; Query time: 3664 msec ... and dig says nothing of  8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 just ;; SERVER: 127.0.1.1#53(127.0.1.1)... how can i know if google dns resolution is working properly?
[01:12] <Snuggyfoo> arooni-mobile what if you just type "dig"
[01:13] <juiced> arooni-mobile: ubuntu uses dnsmasq as a proxy. you could try tcpdump to see where the queries are going.
[01:16] <apb1963> Several months ago knotes had some kind of problem with a new version, and I lost access to my notes.  I was told a fix would be forthcoming at some point, and I put it aside until now.  So, I would like to retrieve my notes at this point.  How can I go about doing that please?
[01:16] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04
[01:17] <bubbajuice> Hello everybody :)
[01:17] <bubbajuice> Any dpkg experts around?
[01:17] <mjayk> Just ask away if someone can help they will bubbajuice
[01:18] <bubbajuice> K
[01:19] <bubbajuice> I added a deb ftp site to my /etc/apt/sources.list earlier today and screwed up my 12.04 Ubuntu install
[01:19] <bubbajuice> Now I have a conflict with the libc6 installed and broken circular dependencies.
[01:19] <bodie_> hello all, I need to get the latest nvidia binary drivers.  is there a recommended ppa or should I just use their installer?
[01:19] <bodie_> (14.04)
[01:20] <bodie_> the trunk version has a bug affecting me which is fixed in the newest driver
[01:20] <bubbajuice> To fix it, I manually downloaded the right .deb packages for 'libc6' and 'libc6-i386' and then force installed them to the system...
[01:20] <mjayk> bodie_, have you tried using the additional drivers option or is that not newable
[01:20] <mjayk> newable wtf
[01:20] <mjayk> new enough
[01:20] <bodie_> hehe
[01:21] <bubbajuice> However, the circular dependency is screwed up still in 'configuration'..   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8304901/
[01:21] <bodie_> mjayk, I've just been using apt-get, I assume that's an option in the gui updater
[01:21] <bubbajuice> Looking for any help on what to do next to resolve this...
[01:21] <mjayk> bodie_, in the dash type additional drivers, that should enable you to select the propiatary drivers (and beta drivers etc)
[01:22] <bodie_> mjayk, under Additional Drivers, it shows me using proprietary version 331.38, which is the version affected by the bug
[01:22] <ahklerner> can i import a .ovpn vpn configuration that has inline certs
[01:22] <mjayk> bodie_, ok kk always worth a look, then I would use the nvidia installer
[01:23] <bodie_> mjayk, okay, not the ppa?  I was looking here: mjayk, I need to be using 340 -- as given here -- http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/trusty/main/base/nvidia-340
[01:23] <Radon_3> hi everyone, I am running two ubuntu machines at the moment,one 14.0. and the other 12.04, now i need to movehuge stack of fies from one (PC) to the other (laptop)how can i use a crossover cable to do this? Iknew how to dothis in windows 7, but i am really new to ubuntu.
[01:23] <bodie_> oops, bad paste, but has the link
[01:24] <mjayk> bodie_, just becareful to follow instructions, I always try to avoid ppa's out of personal preference, the have the deb package on that link aswell
[01:24] <bodie_> mjayk, I see.  the thing with the PPA is that they want you to use all the software in it, which I'm not sure will be good (it's from edgers)
[01:24] <Bashing-om> Radon_3: Common router ? an easy way then .
[01:24] <bodie_> mjayk, is there a way to use the installer version until the more current one is in trunk, and then roll over to that?
[01:25] <Radon_3> no, only have a crossover cable, and two net cards :(
[01:25] <mjayk> bodie_, yes you just need to keep an eye personally on when the next one is released
[01:26] <bodie_> fair enough. thanks for the help mjayk
[01:26] <mjayk> bodie_, no worries hope it works out, backup if I were you as graphics card drivers have been one of my biggest causes of failure
[01:27] <bodie_> mjayk, heh
[01:28] <bodie_> what's the worst that could happen!  ;)
[01:28] <mjayk> x-server breaks :(
[01:28] <bodie_> worst case, I'll just burn my computer to ashes... I mean reinstall the trunk driver version
[01:30] <bubbajuice> Installing libc6 complains of wrong version of libc6-i386 (2.19) even after I manually install the (2.15) version....
[01:30] <bubbajuice> How do I fix this?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8304901/
[01:33] <bodie_> mjayk, I live! lol
[01:33] <mjayk> :) congrats
[01:34] <mjayk> bodie_, what bug are you talking about btw I run nvidia aswell
[01:34] <bodie_> it's a wine thing.  d3d_set_fog divides by zero
[01:35] <bodie_> mjayk, https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35783
[01:35] <bodie_> I'm not actually completely certain the new driver is running
[01:36] <gshmu> bash$ ping www.google.com &      can't work
[01:36] <bodie_> nvm, running 340.32.  woot
[01:36] <gshmu> command&  not work
[01:37] <zerothis> I have a notebook that runs _only_ the lubuntu GUI installation, not LiveCD, not the installation after finished. So I need to know, what desktop environment and drivers specifically is lubuntu running during the install?
[01:38] <mjayk> ah thanks bodie_ I dont use wine
[01:38] <spearhead> gshmu, what are you expecting ping google.com & to do?
[01:38]  * zerothis is #LinuxOnly as well
[01:39] <gshmu> spearhead: run ping at Background
[01:39] <richac> hello all
[01:39] <spearhead> gshmu, what does it do when you run the command?
[01:40] <richac> I was wondering is there a way to stop ufw from logging to syslog?
[01:40] <gshmu> spearhead: run at shell, i can't stop it
[01:41] <somsip> gshmu: "jobs" will show the job number for the ping command, and "fg 1" would bring job #1 to the foreground so you can kill it
[01:41] <gshmu> somsip: i using ctrl+D close shell
[01:44] <spearhead> gshmu, when you run ping in the background it still prints to the terminal it was ran in... so it will fill up your screen but you can't kill it because it is no longer in the foreground so you either have to bring it back to the foreground with fg 1 and then kill with ctrl-c or use a command such as sudo killall ping
[01:44] <spearhead> gshmu, where 1 is the job number provided by "jobs"
[01:45] <gshmu> spearhead: thanks, I using Ctrl+D close the shell
[01:46] <gshmu> I find four ping at system monitor
[01:46] <gshmu> thanks somsip too
[01:46] <spearhead> how many times did you try and run it?
[01:47] <gshmu> 4
[01:47] <felon> i love running ubuntu live off my usb drive, just thought id say thats thanks ubuntu team!
[01:49] <SP33D> felon i love that too
[01:49] <SP33D> i repair my system always this way
[01:49] <SP33D> :D
[01:49] <spearhead> gshmu, when you ctrl-d out of a terminal the process running in the background is still running... that is why you have 4 ping commands running
[01:50] <felon> i by-pass windows windows 7 admin accounts this way i love it
[01:50] <spearhead> gshmu, to kill all of them run sudo killall ping
[01:50] <gshmu> spearhead: is any way to fg it?
[01:50] <gshmu> I kill it at system monitor
[01:51] <somsip> gshmu: you could use reptyr to reown the processes but it's probably more than you need as you can safely kill these
[01:52] <spearhead> somsip, I don't know that command... and I don't have a manual entry for it...
[01:52] <somsip> spearhead: github only. Unsupported but useful in some circumstances
[01:52] <felon> i use a computer that only has quest access, so i cant d/l and install things so, i use a 8 gig usb (dedicate all the space) for downloading and burning movies from ubuntu live without installing it.
[01:53] <mjayk> felon, is there a question there ?
[02:01] <overcloud> clear
[02:09] <Cowmoo> Given that I'm running Trusty, how can I apt-get a package version that is only available for Utopic?
[02:09] <somsip> Cowmoo: you can't. Using a PPA may be an option but is unsupported. Which package?
[02:10] <Cowmoo> somsip: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/pdftk
[02:10] <Cowmoo> On Trusty, it's at 2.01
[02:10] <Cowmoo> I'd like 2.02 in the link I shared
[02:10] <gshmu> Cowmoo: got package, and then dpkg it. maybe
[02:11] <somsip> Cowmoo: oh, you want a more recent version. As I said before, use the current package out of the official repo or use a PPA
[02:11] <somsip> !ppa | Cowmoo
[02:11] <Cowmoo> !addppa
[02:11] <Cowmoo> Thanks, I will look into this
[02:12] <rww> !addppa =~ s/Since Ubuntu 9.10, a/A/
[02:14] <corcoran723> hello everybody
[02:31] <skydog> can anyone tell me whats the program called running in the top right, with the time and shutdown button?
[02:31] <skydog> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/6941311192_4f0feb9772_b.jpg
[02:32] <goldblum> which icon?
[02:33] <usr13> skydog: When you hold the mouse cursor on it, does it show anything?
[02:33] <skydog> This isnt my desktop, I want that program but I dont know whats its called
[02:34] <xangua> skydog: looks like avant window navigator
[02:34] <skydog> Thanks :)
[02:35] <skydog> Even if it isnt, ill take it Avant does similar things. so that'll do, wasnt sure what those things were called.
[02:35] <skydog> hm I searched awm, it looks like I was misunderstood, apparently awm is the tray at the bottom... or am I missing something here?
[02:36] <skydog> *awn
[02:37] <skydog> im guessing its built in to whatever window manager is being used in the screenshot
[02:40] <skydog> Anyway, let me get to the point. I want a bar in my top right that has the time, and a power button. What would this sort of program be called?
[02:42] <somsip> skydog: looks like this is all cairo-dock 3.0 http://glx-dock.org/mr_article.php?b=5&a=61
[02:43] <skydog> thanks buddy. im gonan test it out
[02:43] <skydog> off to slackbuilds
[02:46] <richac>  /join #linuxmint
[02:46] <richac> err
[02:47] <james0r> i have xubuntu 14.04 32bit installed and have 6 gigs of RAM. I understand 32bit only takes advantage of 4 gigs of ram. I'm starting to mess with an android emulator which tries to grab 2 gigs of ram for the emulator. will upgrading to 64bit let me utilize all 6gigs of ram and give me a boost?
[02:47] <somsip> james0r: yes
[02:48] <somsip> james0r: though...I thought all kernels were PAE enabled by default now. What does free -h tell you?
[02:49] <james0r> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16833274/cd-2014-09-10__09-49-06.txt
[02:49] <james0r> someone,
[02:49] <james0r> somsip,
[02:49] <somsip> james0r: so it's already recognising your 6GB
[02:50] <james0r> someone, i mean it shows on my conky so i figured it was seeing it, just thought it wasn't able to use it in 32bit
[02:50] <james0r> i got my xubuntu setup all tweaked and perfect so trying to avoid another OS install if possible.
[02:51] <somsip> james0r: I'm quite sure that all kernels now have PAE enabled, which allows 32 bit installs to access all of the RAM
[02:51] <TJ-> james0r: The only limitation is that no single process can address more than 4GB of virtual memory. 1GB is reserved for the kernel mappings, and effectively the maximum is aorund 2.5GB if I recall correctly. In 64-bit mode processes do not have those limitations
[02:52] <somsip> james0r: "from 12.10 only the PAE releases are maintained" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAEhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[02:52] <somsip> sorry - double paste on the URL
[02:52] <james0r> TJ-, okay maybe no issue then, because i never try to grab more than 2gb of ram from my emulator at a time.
[02:54] <TJ-> james0r: That 4G of virtual address space also has to allow for all the dynamic libraries mapped into the process address space too, so for larger processes with complex linkage, the maximum usable address space can be surprisingly low
[02:55] <james0r> TJ-, i understand some of that :) I'm getting a black screen on my emulator when i try 2gb so low memory might be the issue. i'll look into it some more. thanks for the info!
[02:57] <james0r> hrmm, sure enough. lowering the RAM it grabs to 1gb allows it to run. i'll shrink my partition, install 64 bit on a small partition and give it a shot on that side.
[03:01] <Guest43948> How can you determine how much video memory your PC has?
[03:01] <joshuasm32> I really messed up.  D:
[03:02] <joshuasm32> My school computers run Windows 7, and I added Ubuntu in the background as a secondary boot.  I only want to use open code, so...
[03:02] <somsip> Guest43948: lshw -C Video (might tell you)
[03:02] <joshuasm32> I was going to remove it later on
[03:02] <joshuasm32> But now my Windows user account is corrupted
[03:02] <melio> hi everyone
[03:03] <joshuasm32> and I have to turn it in tomorrow so that the it guy can add a textbook
[03:03] <joshuasm32> he is really zealous about the laptops
[03:03] <melio> just got here. not sure what's up
[03:03] <joshuasm32> and all configurations in windows are banned
[03:03] <melio> so you tried dual boot and it flaked?
[03:04] <joshuasm32> my Windows user account is corrupted
[03:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> does ntop show PIDs
[03:04] <melio> EFI and dual boot problems?
[03:04] <somsip> joshuasm32: seems like a windows issue. Probably best to fess up to the systems admin at school and learn from your mistake
[03:04] <joshuasm32> On a school computer
[03:04] <joshuasm32> with ubuntu
[03:04] <melio> no sweat then
[03:04] <melio> give it to the dudes making dollars for your problems
[03:04] <melio> they'll wipe and reinstall windows on it
[03:04] <joshuasm32> lol
[03:04] <usr13> Guest43948: grep -i memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:04] <joshuasm32> is there a way to reformat the drive while its in use using ubuntu?
[03:04] <melio> i mean unless you got a windows install you can pop on it
[03:05] <melio> you can resize it
[03:05] <melio> and reformat unused partitions
[03:05] <joshuasm32> I could turn in a blank one and then make up some excuse...
[03:05] <joshuasm32> ...
[03:05] <melio> you can thumbdrive boot it
[03:05] <melio> then wipe it with fdisk
[03:05] <joshuasm32> resize windows?
[03:05] <melio> joshuasm32, there's tons of things you can do. but i suggest you get a unetbootin app
[03:05] <melio> and install it
[03:06] <melio> then get yourself a ubuntu iso
[03:06] <joshuasm32> I basically want to remove everything, all partitions, not just windows
[03:06] <melio> and write it to a nice 4gig thumbdrive
[03:06] <melio> use a persistant file system
[03:06] <melio> then boot tht. wipe your computer with it
[03:06] <melio> and keep your thumbdrive as your active ubuntu install
[03:06] <melio> when you need linux, boot it
[03:06] <joshuasm32> ok
[03:06] <joshuasm32> thanks
[03:06] <melio> when you have to use windows. it's there
[03:06] <joshuasm32> i'll remember that
[03:06] <melio> when theyreinstall it
[03:06] <joshuasm32> my user account
[03:06] <joshuasm32> is corrupted
[03:06] <melio> you got root
[03:06] <joshuasm32> and he's super picky
[03:07] <joshuasm32> all the windows tricks don't work
[03:07] <joshuasm32> i hacked my account for admin access lol
[03:07] <joshuasm32> in windows
[03:07] <melio> usually the registry can be rebuilt or restored
[03:07] <melio> but your in a ubuntu channel
[03:07] <joshuasm32> but the user account...
[03:07] <melio> windows skills are high, but not practiced here
[03:07] <joshuasm32> all configurations are banned
[03:07] <joshuasm32> in windows
[03:07] <joshuasm32> so if i turn it in even like this i'll be in trouble
[03:07] <melio> you can safemode and create a new user
[03:08] <melio> so wha
[03:08] <usr13> joshuasm32: And you are using Enter key for puncuation.
[03:08] <melio> usr13, it's emotional dictation
[03:08] <Guest43948> Would that grep command work for xubuntu 14.04, usr13?
[03:08] <usr13> Guest43948: Yes
[03:08] <melio> joshuasm32, be hones and tell them you are a computer science student doing experiments
[03:08] <joshuasm32> sorry, i'm ranting
[03:08] <melio> honest even
[03:09] <melio> computer science causes junk like this
[03:09] <joshuasm32> i'll spend some time making it look better
[03:09] <joshuasm32> so that windows is the same
[03:09] <joshuasm32> thanks though
[03:09] <Guest43948> I'll try the lshw command first, it looks simpler
[03:09] <melio> i wouldnt, just give it to them to fix it
[03:09] <joshuasm32> the it guy is zealous
[03:09] <melio> i need to make this font bigger. you guys are too tiny on my screen.
[03:09] <joshuasm32> expulsion involved if ubuntu is found
[03:09] <joshuasm32> or anything is changed almost
[03:09] <somsip> joshuasm32: that is your problem. It's not a ubuntu issue. Can you stop now please.
[03:10] <Guest43948> thanks somsip
[03:10] <RChamblee> helloi
[03:10] <somsip> Guest43948: did it work?
[03:10] <joshuasm32> yes
[03:10] <Guest43948> I need to run that command on my other PC
[03:10] <joshuasm32> sorry like i said
[03:11] <joshuasm32> Is #ubuntu an open IRC or mainly only for tech support?
[03:11] <Guest43948> I"m running a live CD on this PC, and it probably already has tonnes of video memory
[03:11] <somsip> joshuasm32: only for ubuntu support
[03:11] <joshuasm32> Oh sorry
[03:11] <joshuasm32> Here is a genuine Ubuntu question however
[03:12] <joshuasm32> Can I somehow hide the partition with Ubuntu on it without removing it?
[03:12] <Guest43948> I asked because I was looking at the hardware requirements to run a game on an old PC running Xubuntu 14.04
[03:12] <usr13> Guest43948: But if it is integrated video chip, (on the Motherboard), grep -i memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log  will not show anything.
[03:12] <usr13> Guest43948: (... because it uses shared RAM)
[03:13] <Guest43948> The PC I want to run a game on is an HP desktop PC
[03:13] <somsip> joshuasm32: hide it from what? It's defined on the hardware (HD partition table) so will be readable by anything that access the HD partition table. Like Windows Disk Manager (or whatever it is called)
[03:13] <joshuasm32> oh
[03:13] <joshuasm32> alright
[03:14] <Guest43948> HP dx5150 SFF desktop PC
[03:14] <usr13> Guest43948: If it uses shared RAM, you will often find an entry in the BIOS that allows you to specify how much RAM to use for it.
[03:14] <joshuasm32> bye, thanks for putting up with me
[03:14] <melio> i have full touch screen support on this laptop
[03:14] <Guest43948> Shared RAM, what is that?
[03:14] <melio> it's amaze-balls
[03:14] <melio> xchat doesnt have it tho
[03:14] <melio> oh well
[03:15] <Guest43948> usr13, I meant, what is shared RAM?
[03:15] <usr13> Guest43948: It is where your video chip just uses the system's Random Access Memory chip(s) for it's video RAM needs.
[03:15] <usr13> Guest43948: So a certain amount of your system RAM is set asside for the video chip's use.
[03:16] <Guest43948> Does that cause it to run videos slow?
[03:16] <usr13> Guest43948: no
[03:16] <melio> I love this new computer
[03:16] <usr13> Guest43948: Well, not if you have enough.
[03:16] <usr13> I love this old computer
[03:17] <usr13> ... or do I... Really?
[03:20] <Guest43948> this command...grep -i memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log....is that a zero an the letter O near the end, usr13 ?
[03:20] <usr13> yes
[03:20] <gebbione> things are becoming funny https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1322925
[03:21] <usr13> Guest43948: ls /var/log/Xorg.*
[03:21] <Guest43948> Oh, it looks like a zero, it just changed when I copied and pasted it
[03:21] <HikaruBG> hi guys!
[03:21] <usr13> Guest43948: Also, "the tab key is your friend"
[03:21] <HikaruBG> how can I set my ubuntu localhost to be visible from the internet?
[03:22] <usr13> HikaruBG: Do you have a public IP?
[03:22] <gebbione> if you connect directly just call your public ip
[03:22] <HikaruBG> currently I am usung private IP Addressing, provided by my ISP Wireless router
[03:22] <HikaruBG> no - private IP usr13
[03:22] <gebbione> then forward a port like 8080 to your internal ip
[03:22] <gebbione> check port forwarding settings in your router
[03:22] <usr13> HikaruBG: If not, you will need a Nynamic DNS provider
[03:23] <HikaruBG> gebbione, by internal IP you mean....  my router IP ?
[03:23] <Guest43948> Does that command........ls /var/log/Xorg.*......do the same thing as the last one you gave me, usr13  ?
[03:23] <usr13> HikaruBG: Yea, most ISPs will use shared IP
[03:23] <usr13> HikaruBG: But why do you need ti?
[03:23] <gebbione> internal ip is your machine, the public ip is already accessible and you router responds on it
[03:24] <HikaruBG> usr13, Dynamic DNS you say...  where to find that?
[03:24] <usr13> HikaruBG: On the internet.
[03:24] <gebbione> noip.com
[03:24] <gebbione> just set the port forwarding first
[03:24] <usr13> HikaruBG: What is it you are trying to accomplish?
[03:25] <HikaruBG> I have a gitlab server at home, and I am trying to make it public so my developing team can use it
[03:26] <gebbione> just use bitbucket or github
[03:26] <usr13> HikaruBG: As gebbione is pointing out, you'll also need to forward the  port you are wanting to use to the PC that runs the server.
[03:26] <HikaruBG> gebbione, github has limited secured projects ...  it comes a bit expensive
[03:26] <HikaruBG> :)
[03:27] <gebbione> bitbucket gives free 5 private projects if thats the problem
[03:27] <HikaruBG> usr13, i have noticed gebbione's advices and I will look into that
[03:27] <HikaruBG> Thanks
[03:27] <HikaruBG> :)
[03:27] <HikaruBG> I know - bitbucket has been checked. :)
[03:27] <Guest43948> the first command worked, the lshw command
[03:27] <HikaruBG> Thanks for the reference
[03:28] <Guest43948> it gave me a bunch of information I already knew about my VGA compatible controller
[03:29] <gebbione> anyway ubuntu is slowly become less usable ... i am seeing bugs i could not imagine happening to a software as widely used as ubuntu
[03:29] <rypope> such as?
[03:29] <gebbione> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1322925?comments=all
[03:29] <gebbione> seriously something like copy and paste not working
[03:29] <Guest43948> I should have just asked about that in the first place, cause I already knew I have an RS480 Radeon Xpress 200 Series (AMD)
[03:30] <gebbione> or resizing of the columns in a folder doesnt work anymore in 14. rypope
[03:30] <Guest43948> But none of all the info I have on it say anything about the video memory
[03:30] <gebbione> so to see the full name you cannot drag it to the right for some strange reasone
[03:31] <Guest43948> All I know about the RS480 is it has 32 bits of width and a 66MHz clock
[03:32] <Guest43948> I think those stats are not related to video memory, usr13
[03:35] <Guest43948> by the way, the first lswh command said I was supposed to run it as a superuser.  But was is a superuser?  How do I do that?
[03:35] <_unreal_> sudo
[03:35] <kostkon> Guest43948, sudo lswh
[03:36] <_unreal_> sudo=semi super user
[03:37] <guest-lH3QMh> ist
[03:37] <_unreal_> Guest43948, what are you trying to do?
[03:37] <Guest43948> I ran the third command line, and just got some weird lines that make no sense
[03:38] <Guest43948> it just looks like a list of four directories with log or log.old at the end
[03:38] <_unreal_> Guest43948, do you have pastebin installed?
[03:38] <_unreal_> type: pastebinit                  and hit enter
[03:38] <Guest43948> No, I am running a live CD here
[03:38] <_unreal_> then it may
[03:39] <_unreal_> what are you trying to do. I've read threw the log quickly but I'm not really sure what your trying to solve?
[03:39] <Guest43948> the xubuntu PC is different from this one.  This PC is running a live xubuntu CD
[03:40] <Guest43948> just want to know how much video memory I have in my Linux PC
[03:41] <_unreal_> OK 2 questions, is it onboard video card OR is it an add in card?
[03:41] <_unreal_> if its onboard video have you checked what its set at in the bios?
[03:41] <Guest43948> I don't know
[03:41] <_unreal_> you dont know if the video card is onboard or an add on card?
[03:42] <_unreal_> ok do you know what computer expansion slots are?
[03:42] <Guest43948> It's likely a video card attached to the motherboard
[03:42] <Guest43948> yes
[03:42] <_unreal_> LOL to be used its attached to the motherboard LOL onboard or add on is the questions
[03:43] <_unreal_> ok so your video cable going to the monitor will be plugged into the computer. trace it down. and if its plugged into an area where the expansion slots are. you know its an ADD ON
[03:43] <Guest43948> Don't ask me to open up my PC again.  Last time I did that it took 2 hours and I almost busted the casing
[03:43] <_unreal_> all you have to look at the back of the computer
[03:44] <bajin-lee_> hello,32bit and 64bit,which should i choose
[03:44] <_unreal_> one sec I'll spend a moment finding a picture OK.....
[03:44] <Guest43948> Although, last time I opened it up I shot about 200 high rez photos of all the guts
[03:44] <gebbione> 64
[03:45] <Guest43948> you can't see the video card from the back, it's inside the casing
[03:46] <_unreal_> no kidding
[03:46] <_unreal_> http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/664081/134269205/stock-photo-the-back-of-a-desktop-computer-with-the-motherboard-on-a-white-background-134269205.jpg
[03:47] <bajin-lee_> gebbione ,why
[03:48] <_unreal_> this is a picture of the back of a computer with onboard video and expansion slot video.  the blue box on the computer by the keyboard connector IS onboard video. down below there is a silver card with 3 connections a blue one and a white one and a black one. thats an expansion video card.
[03:48] <gebbione> bajin-lee_, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-decide-if-you-should-use-32bit-or-64bit-ubuntu
[03:49] <bajin-lee_> thanks
[03:49] <_unreal_> if your video cable is plugged into the ONBOARD video location which is blue in that image, then you can go to your bios and find out exactly how much memory is being used by the video card. if its an expansion card then it gets a little more complicated
[03:49] <_unreal_> Guest43948, do you follow? or are you lost
[03:49] <Guest43948> That's what my Pavilion PC looks like at the back
[03:50] <Guest43948> But I already know enough about my Pavilion's videocard
[03:50] <Guest43948> My Linux PC is different, but it has a similar VGA connector
[03:50] <_unreal_> http://unsupportedvideoconfigurationdetected.com/images/dell_inspiron_518_back_annotated.jpg
[03:50] <_unreal_> much better photo now
[03:51] <_unreal_> dude I'm about to walk away, you have yet to answer a single question
[03:51] <anden> can i map a key to another key using xmodmap or something? i've currently only managed to map a key to write one specific letter
[03:53] <Guest43948> My monitor is plugged into my videocard connector, so I can't even see what colour it is
[03:54] <_unreal_> its a LOCATION
[03:54] <Guest43948> It's probably easier to just look through the photos I shot of the interior guts.  I probably have a shot of the RS480 Radeon Xpress 200 Series video card
[03:55] <melio> cool. 12 pt font is muh better to read irc with
[03:55] <Guest43948> or may be I can google that, RS480, and see if there's any information on it regarding video memory
[03:55] <_unreal_> you have a rs480 radeon card?
[03:55] <Guest43948> yes
[03:56] <_unreal_> then     lspci
[03:56] <Guest43948> RS480 [AMD/ATI]
[03:56] <_unreal_> find the video card, and go to google and look it up
[03:56] <melio> here's a tip guest usernames, if you find a userid you enjoy. use it. guest accounts are hard to talk to when times get buzy in irc
[03:56] <Melio> type /nick awesomenick
[03:56] <_unreal_> or: lspci | grep 480
[03:56] <Melio> if it's taken nickserv will educate you
[03:58] <_unreal_> Melio, this guy is showing dire need of educating
[03:58] <Guest43948> lspci works, but does not provide much useful information
[03:58] <_unreal_> I just told you what you need
[03:59] <_unreal_> that should give enough info for you to look up the card and find out what its got
[04:02] <_unreal_> Guest43948,:   last command and I'm done helping I'm sorry but you hardly follow or listen to what any one has said.   type this and you will get your answer: lspci -v | less
[04:04] <zerothis> I want to use the installer as it is as my permanent installation. Can I just image it to a partition?
[04:05] <usr13> Guest43948: If your video chip is onboard, it more than likely does not have any RAM. Run grep -i memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out.
[04:05] <_unreal_> usr13, give up trust me
[04:05] <Melio> lol
[04:06] <zerothis> _unreal_: Linux never gives up! I say do likewise!
[04:06] <_unreal_> usr13, : lspci -v | less                       gives the exact details strait from the card
[04:06] <_unreal_> then you help him
[04:06] <Loshki> zerothis: and I say: pick your battles. You're not infinite...
[04:07] <_unreal_> zerothis, I offer you the keys to the kingdom
[04:07] <Melio> how do you get to the unsigned drivers and proprietary drivers in 14.04.1
[04:07] <Melio> there's a way enable or install em i forgot
[04:07] <Melio> maby it's in settings
[04:07] <_unreal_> unsigned drivers? you mean free and non free?
[04:08] <Melio> yes
[04:08] <_unreal_> one sec
[04:08] <_unreal_> crap I dont know off the top of my head, go to your software manager and you can enable it there
[04:08] <Melio> ok
[04:09] <_unreal_> my ubuntu VNC  computer is not on right now, and this is an RPM based system
[04:09] <Slartibartfast13> There is one host bridge and two compatible controllers for my RS480 video card
[04:09] <Melio> centos?
[04:09] <_unreal_> fedora
[04:09] <gebbione> rypope not even the shutdown works
[04:09] <gebbione> GRRRRR
[04:09] <_unreal_> gebbione, ?
[04:09] <Slartibartfast13> The host bridge is Rev 10
[04:10] <gebbione> amd the keyboard languare resets itself
[04:10] <gebbione> _unreal_, too many bugs in ubuntu
[04:10] <Melio> additional drivers in search pulled itu p
[04:10] <gebbione> 14 is a disaster
[04:10] <Slartibartfast13> But googling it still does not show its video memory, not on any of the websites I have visited so far
[04:10] <gebbione> i have to shutdown manually
[04:10] <_unreal_> I have not had any issues with 14.04 other then going threw hell to get a broadcom wifi card working.
[04:11] <Loshki> gebbione: if you want stability, you should be on 12.04.latest...
[04:11] <Melio> tht's not hell
[04:11] <gebbione> so you can resize folders fine?
[04:11] <DVCE_> hi all
[04:11] <Melio> 14.04 is very stable for me
[04:11] <Melio> this laptop is brand new
[04:11] <_unreal_> gebbione, if your having such issues it sounds more like user infelected problems that the system its self being unstable
[04:11] <ObrienDave> I have no issues with 14.04
[04:11] <Melio> it's quickly becomming a very useful system
[04:11] <gebbione> Loshki, i was and then i thought 14 by now should have been good enough
[04:11] <DVCE_> how command show  the version of my ubuntu ?
[04:11] <gebbione> but i have all sorts of annoying bugs
[04:11] <ObrienDave> pebcak
[04:12] <gebbione> _unreal_, the bugs are reported
[04:12] <gebbione> not only me
[04:12] <Loshki> Nevertheless, 14.04.1 is just a step away from the dot-o release. If it runs true to form, it won't really stabilise until 14.04.04
[04:12] <Melio> DVCE_, uniity buton in the upper left protion of the screen tells you
[04:12] <gebbione> like the ones i posted earlier
[04:12] <gebbione> night all
[04:13] <Melio> or lsb_release -a
[04:14] <Melio> Loshki, you should know textbook responses about linux don't apply to every computer and every kernel running on them
[04:14] <_unreal_> gebbione: landscape-sysinfo | pastebinit
[04:14] <_unreal_> sigh
[04:14] <Melio> it's great to have an LPI cert encoded response in yuor mind, but it's not always the best way to look at stability :)
[04:14] <DVCE_> M
[04:14] <Loshki> Melio: textbook? I'd say it's a minority opinion. Most people assume newer is always better...
[04:15] <ObrienDave> DVCE_, cat /etc/issue
[04:15] <_unreal_> I bet you his system is a disaster, lot of unsigned software etc....... and messing about
[04:15] <Slartibartfast13> I got a lot of information about my RS480, but still nothing about the video memory
[04:15] <DVCE_> Thanks
[04:15] <Melio> _unreal_, whos?
[04:16] <_unreal_> gebbione
[04:16] <ubard> greetings everyone
[04:16] <Melio> oh he lef
[04:16] <Melio> t
[04:16] <ubard> I have a screen flickering problem after the last updates
[04:16] <Melio> hi ubard
[04:16] <ubard> can anyone help me out?
[04:16] <Melio> ubard, desktop or laptop?
[04:16] <_unreal_> Slartibartfast13, I already gave you the exact command that would print the amount of memory the video card has.
[04:16] <sexyboy> ubard: just ask your question :D
[04:16] <Melio> he did :P
[04:16] <DVCE_> on shell, what's the command that show my version of ubuntu ?
[04:16] <ubard> laptop
[04:16] <_unreal_> Slartibartfast13, from this point on I'm ignoring you
[04:17] <Melio> ubard, try swaping drivers out for it
[04:17] <sexyboy> ah you already did
[04:17] <sexyboy> meh, i'm tired
[04:17] <Melio> like go to xorg defualt, free drivers, then back to proprietary
[04:17] <Loshki> DVCE_: what ObrienDave said above...
[04:17] <wad> I've got a new, 2TB hard drive that I bought to use as a backup. But now it's throwing tons of errors at me. Of course, this was after I copied all my wifes files to it, and wiped the drive they came from.
[04:17] <ObrienDave> DVCE_, cat /etc/issue
[04:18] <Melio> something in the update changed your video stuff. so try searching for unsigned drivers in the search box
[04:18] <DVCE_> ObrienDave, file our directory not found
[04:18] <_unreal_> Melio, user -a
[04:18] <ObrienDave> DVCE_, or, lsb_release -a
[04:18] <Melio> it should point you to proprietary driver installs and adjustmens to drivers
[04:18] <Loshki> wad: anticipating the next question, when you say "wiped", what exactly did you do?
[04:18] <wad> fdisk, deleted all the partitions.
[04:18] <Melio> DVCE_, lagged a bit? i answered it
[04:19] <_unreal_> sorry Melio : uname -a
[04:19] <Melio> internet is kinda laggy tonight for me too. i'm downloading a bit
[04:19] <wad> I don't suppose there is a way to recover deleted partitions... ?
[04:19] <wad> It had 6 partitions on it, becuase it had a windows/linux dual boot.
[04:19] <Loshki> wad: that's it? Didn't format, didn't write any data? Try testdisk...
[04:19] <Melio> _unreal_,  uname -a doesnt tell me the ubuntu release just the kernel and stuff
[04:19] <wad> Okay.
[04:19] <DVCE_> ObrienDave, the second command solve the problem, thanks
[04:19] <_unreal_> that I'm not sure of
[04:19] <ubard> Melio, pm please
[04:20] <ObrienDave> DVCE_, thank Melio
[04:20] <Melio> sre
[04:20] <DVCE_> Melio, thanks, but i asked gain , because the command not found
[04:20] <Melio> it's ok
[04:20] <Melio> might have been a typo
[04:20] <_unreal_> Melio, landscape-sysinfo       lot of info but thats everything
[04:20] <Slartibartfast13> That last command, lspci | grep 480, does not show the video memory.  I ran the command and already told you the three results
[04:21] <Slartibartfast13> But thanks for trying to help.  It was worth a try
[04:21] <DVCE_> anybody here, already building one server of cs - cardsharing ?
[04:21] <_unreal_> Slartibartfast13, you didnt bother READING the command is there and that is NOT it
[04:22] <Slartibartfast13> After the four commands you gave me, all of which I ran, you told me to do a google search, which I also did
[04:23] <fred-fri> theres a server x which i cant ssh into unless i first ssh into server y. i need to copy something from x to my local computer. this has to happen through y. normally i would just copy from x to y and then from y to my local computer, but i cant because the thing i want to copy exceeds my size permissions on y. is there any way to solve this?
[04:23] <Slartibartfast13> Oh, I see a -v command
[04:24] <Slartibartfast13> sorry, I see the fifth command
[04:26] <matty_r> I'm doing some graphics programming in Java and for some reason the performance is terrible unless I move the mouse cursor around in the Java window. Any ideas why this might happen?
[04:27] <_unreal_> sounds like code issue
[04:28] <_unreal_> but thats a question for #java
[04:29] <manny0080> hello
[04:30] <_unreal_> hi..
[04:36] <samthewildone> I'm noticing that videos in vlc are distorted ...
[04:36] <Slartibartfast13> _unreal_  The last command worked
[04:36] <samthewildone> as in they have these strings of color or a faded color
[04:36] <Slartibartfast13> It looks like my Display controller is disabled.  But my VGA compatible controller has 32 bit prefetchable memory at 128 MB, and 32 bit non--prefetchable memory at 64 K.
[04:37] <Slartibartfast13> So, is my video memory 128 MB or 64 Kilobytes?
[04:37] <_unreal_> omg
[04:37] <_unreal_> Palm to face
[04:38] <Slartibartfast13> The problem is I don't know what prefetching is.  I suppose I can look it up in Wikipedia
[04:38] <Xat`> hi guys
[04:38] <Xat`> I have a problem using ubuntu 12.04 with date
[04:38] <Xat`> dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[04:39] <Xat`> I choose the good one timezone Europe/Paris
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:39] <Slartibartfast13> But at least I got lots of useful information from that last command.  I'll just screenshot it and figure it out later
[04:39] <samthewildone> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rZKP9LDqUFZmszNWRtWXdoNDg/edit?usp=sharing
[04:39] <Xat`> but date is completly incorrect : 14 feb 2014
[04:40] <ubard> does anyone know if there's a grubeditor installed with lubuntu 14.04?
[04:41] <Melio> is grub installed with ubuntu by stock?
[04:41] <Melio> if that's the only thing running . i don't think grub is even installed
[04:41] <Melio> you can of course install it
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> ubard: you can edit grub with gedit or any text file editor
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Melio: did you try holding shift at boot?
[04:44] <Melio> shift at boot! . ok
[04:44] <Melio> :)
[04:44] <Melio> i need to reboot anyhow. i hve strange usb errors that are probably bios contained
[04:44] <Melio> i can fix tht
[04:45] <Slartibartfast13> thanks for your help _unreal_  I got a lot of useful information with your help
[04:47] <melio> nah no grub at boot with shift
[04:47] <Slartibartfast13> the next thing I'll do is try to print out all that information onto a hard copy, so it's easier to read.  It looks like about 2 or 3 pages
[04:47] <melio> there's EFI partitions there
[04:47] <melio> it's not real easy to mess with
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> melio: what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:48] <melio> i'm trynig to figure out how i would change a kernel
[04:48] <melio> usnig grub
[04:48] <melio> using grub
[04:48] <Slartibartfast13> All those numbers would probably make more sense on a piece of paper, as opposed to trying to read them on a monitor
[04:48] <melio> specificly if grub isnt there. it won't be easy
[04:48] <ubard> thanks lotuspsychje! holding shift at boot works..
[04:48] <melio> ok so grub is here ubard
[04:48] <ubard> melio I managed it
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> melio: holding shift should work normally
[04:48] <ubard> yup
[04:48] <melio> i must not have held shift a the right time
[04:48] <melio> ubard, ok so once you install the kernel version you want
[04:49] <melio> it should be there in grub once you give it an advanced menu option
[04:49] <melio> and you can boot the alternate kernel there
[04:49] <ubard> actually I already have the previous version on the list, will try that first
[04:49] <melio> ok
[04:49] <melio> perfect
[04:51] <ubard> booted with 3.13.0-32-generic and the flickering is gone!
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ubard
[04:52] <melio> so you know it's a kernel issue now. and you can stay in that kernel till a new one releases in the update
[04:52] <melio> or build a nightly build if you dare
[04:52] <melio> :P
[04:52] <ubard> ya thanks to you guys..
[04:52] <ubard> :)
[04:52] <ubard> now the question is, next uninterrupted boot will be which kernel?
[04:53] <melio> ubard, not sure. might try it to see
[04:53] <melio> remember uname - r
[04:53] <melio> :)
[04:53] <ubard> yup! :)
[04:53] <melio> uname -r
[04:54] <Xat`> using Ubuntu 12.04 I have repository issues. I just installed 12.04 and apt-get update give me : "Hash Sum mismatch"
[04:55] <Xat`> "E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[04:55] <Xat`> please help
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Xat`: try a reboot, apt cache clean en apt-get update maybe
[04:58] <Melio> i'm going to watch a movie
[04:58] <Melio> be back in a few hours
[04:58] <ubard> enjoy! thank you..
[05:01] <Xat`> lotuspsychje: same problem
[05:02] <ubard> lotuspsychje, how can I configure grub to boot the kernel I want automatic?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> ubard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Xat`: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[05:08] <Xat`> well, I gonna try it
[05:09] <ubard> thanks, tryin
[05:14] <x_root> hello.. is possible to put, on the top bar of gnome (or another ui) the "menu bar"?
[05:14] <x_root> like it is on unity or on a mac, but i don't want to use unity to do this..
[05:14] <x_root> (or.. maybe, if i can edit the top bar of unity to do this.. =/)
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> x_root: there is a classimenu indicator that simulates menu items
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | x_root
[05:18] <x_root> hm.. it disables the menu on window as well lotuspsychje? i would like to have it as well.. (if possible, of course..)
[05:19] <x_root> i'll see, thanks lotuspsychje :D
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> x_root: not really mac os x style, but kinda handy
[05:19] <x_root> hm.. ok.. maybe i can do something on some windows..
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> x_root: docky can also do nice things
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> !info docky
[05:20] <x_root> i have docky installed.. but it have the "docky icon" that i can put out..
[05:20] <x_root> can't*
[05:21] <x_root> or i can?.. well, i'm doing an effort to have "some" ui's on ubuntu, one of them the most osx-alike
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> x_root: there's another on like docky that can do more also, forgot its name holdon
[05:21] <x_root> ok
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> x_root: cairo dock
[05:22] <x_root> is the one i'm using lotuspsychje :D
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ah :p
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> x_root: cairo dock has mac os x themse no?
[05:23] <x_root> already have the dock and top-panel, but now i'm thinking how to enable a "global menu" like unity/osx
[05:23] <x_root> yes.. but it's not good =/
[05:23] <x_root> like.. it have just the dock.. to be "mac os x alike" should have the top panel..
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> x_root: maybe browse deviantart os x/ubuntu keyword and see how they do it
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> x_root: wich ubuntu are you running?
[05:24] <x_root> lotuspsychje, 14.04
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> ok nice
[05:24] <x_root> hm.. for curiosity, which irc client r u using lotuspsychje?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> xchat
[05:25] <x_root> hm..
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> x_root: as i like the transparant look with green text
[05:25] <x_root> not possible with hexchat lotuspsychje?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> x_root: didnt test hexchat myself, used xchat for years
[05:26] <homarian> xchat everywere
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> x_root: http://www.deviantart.com/?q=ubuntu+mac+os+x read all the comments, how users tweak
[05:27] <x_root> i will, thanks lotuspsychje :D
[05:27] <x_root> lotuspsychje, also, i'm using hexchat (since the default is a comma after the nick+tab)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> x_root: xchat can edit those in : or , whatever you need
[05:28] <x_root> hexchat can do to lotuspsychje, but i like the comma xD
[05:30] <Phytyca> test
[05:30] <Phytyca> clear
[05:36] <Xat`> lotuspsychje: your link works well, thank you
[05:55] <sae> =)
[06:02] <tapout> i added a few packages and rebooted and now it hangs on reboot.  Is there a way to rollback the latest installs ?
[06:03] <ObrienDave> tapout, was a new kernel involved?
[06:07] <naturally> FWP: have a multitouch monitor, and this website registers five points!  http://www.paulirish.com/demo/multi   yet the interface within ubuntu only acts like a wierd mouse pointer.  what gives?
[06:09] <Arth> anyone know anything about webservers that could answer a question real quick?
[06:10] <ObrienDave> depends on the question
[06:10] <Arth> i'm trying to make it so that whern you go to the domain, instead of trying to connect to www.domain.com:80, it goes to another service(port) by default
[06:10] <Xat`> but really guys about repos, I had opportunities to work with several Ubuntu and except for the latest I always have repos issues
[06:11] <Kartagis> Arth: Redirect
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Arth, #ubuntu-service
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Arth, #ubuntu-server
[06:11] <Arth> lets say i had a service running at port 555, instead of going to the domain and it points to domain.com:80 i want it to go to domain.com:555 without me having to add :555 to the url
[06:11] <Arth> thank you
[06:11] <Kartagis> or that
[06:12] <Xat`> I guess that's not the good choice to have issue when Ubuntu is supposed to be adapted for new Linux users
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Xat`, strangely enough, for the majority of users, ubuntu works just fine.  YMMV as always.
[06:14] <ObrienDave> funny, i don't have 95% of the problems, 95% of the users have. *shrugs*
[06:14] <Xat`> cfhowlett: I always have repo issues using 12.04 or older
[06:14] <cfhowlett> Xat`, ...
[06:15] <cfhowlett> Xat`, meaningful solutions require meaningful details ...
[06:15] <Xat`> cfhowlett: my problem is now solved but I remember I always have to resolve repo issue first
[06:16] <Xat`> on 12.04 and older
[06:16] <Xat`> this one today for 12.04 : http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[06:17] <cfhowlett> Xat`this happens to ALL linux users at one point or another.  not specific to or a weakness of ubuntu.  also: fairly easily fixed.
[06:18] <hillary_>  i get this error when running upgrade in ubuntu 12.04"subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[06:20] <cfhowlett> hillary_, paste up the command leading to this and the output please.
[06:23] <hillary_> E: libreoffice-base: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[06:23] <cfhowlett> !paste | hillary_
[06:24] <cfhowlett> hillary_, so you were removing libreoffice?
[06:27] <hillary_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8306693/
[06:29] <acidrain_> ubuntu 14. how do i completely remove an application and everything related to it?
[06:30] <anohigisavay> looks like /var/lib/dpkg/info/libreoffice-base.postrm is missing a `fi` ?
[06:30] <cfhowlett> hillary_, suggestion: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:30] <acidrain_> google-chrome-beta is in question
[06:30] <acidrain_> i tried sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-beta with no luck
[06:30] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, sudo apt-get google*     would kill all google stuff
[06:30] <cfhowlett> apt-get purge google*
[06:30] <ObrienDave> acidrain_, sudo apt-get purge <package>
[06:30] <acidrain_> ObrienDave: didnt work
[06:31] <acidrain_> upon doing: sudo apt-get install google-chrome-beta, all my preferences, and plugins were still there
[06:31] <hillary_> ok let me try see
[06:31] <ObrienDave> acidrain_, because you did not add the package name to the command
[06:31] <acidrain_> what do you mean?
[06:31] <ObrienDave> acidrain_, look at your command. you installed again
[06:32] <anohigisavay> is purge a command now? it's been long time since last time i used ubuntu but i remeber it was apt-get remove --purge?
[06:32] <acidrain_> correct... there shouldnt be any trace that i ever had a previous install of chrome
[06:32] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, eh, not quite.  the package is still on your system unless you empty from cache ...
[06:32] <acidrain_> cfhowlett: how do i do this?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:34] <hillary_> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8306729/
[06:34] <acidrain_> cfhowlett: it worked
[06:34] <acidrain_> lets hope this fixes the issue
[06:34] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, go for it!
[06:34] <acidrain_> for some reason, chrome stops playing netflix movies after about 10sec now
[06:34] <acidrain_> has been working for about 5days straight on a fresh install
[06:35] <acidrain_> damn it
[06:35] <acidrain_> it didnt work
[06:35] <acidrain_> options are still there
[06:35] <Mandor> I have a kickstart config that worked fine under ubuntu 12.04.  It generates multiple LVM physical volumes using the syntax "part pv.01   --size 4000 --asprimary".  Under 12.04, this works great.  Under 14.04, the first one consumes the rest of the disk.  Any clues?
[06:36] <anohigisavay> hillary_: i would suggest you reinstall libreoffice-base
[06:36] <anohigisavay> and remove it
[06:37] <hillary_> ok
[06:37] <anohigisavay> hillary_: apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice-base
[06:37] <Mandor> Sample kickstart snippet: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cEyb8GCi
[06:38] <cfhowlett> hillary_, agreed.  seems a broken install/remove of some kind
[06:48] <acidrain_> im pretty sure i hate chrome now
[06:48] <acidrain_> why make things so damn difficult
[06:48] <cfhowlett> hillary_, fixed???
[06:48] <hillary_> not yet
[06:48] <hillary_> still the same error
[06:49] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, actually, chromium is likely a better tool for linux ...
[06:49] <acidrain_> Error Code: M7363-1264-00000000
[06:49] <anohigisavay> i personally prefer chromium over firefox
[06:49] <hillary_> E: libreoffice-base: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[06:49] <hillary_> still that error
[06:50] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, that's a chrome error?  google error?  should be searchable.
[06:50] <anohigisavay> hillary_: just remove the f***ing  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libreoffice-base.postrm
[06:50] <acidrain_> cfhowlett: to my knowledge there is only about 4 other people world wide who have this issue
[06:51] <acidrain_> ubuntu 14 + chrome + netflix. just RECENTLY stopped working. maybe 8hrs ago
[06:51] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, wow! you are in rarified company!  :0
[06:51] <acidrain_> idk what to do....
[06:51] <dios_mio> acidrain_: install slackware!
[06:51] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, sadly, with so few folks facing the issue, not likely that a whole lot of folk are working on a solution.
[06:51] <acidrain_> i like chrome. but i would extremely rather not install firefox + pipelight again
[06:52] <cfhowlett> dios_mio, no trolling please.
[06:52] <ObrienDave> acidrain_, i think chrome settings are retained by google. i know when i install chrome to a VM, once i login through google all my settings and bookmarks show up
[06:53] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, true.  if you actually log into chrome, it will synch your google account settings.
[06:54] <acidrain_> this error im getting seems to be a time based thing
[06:54] <acidrain_> like seriously
[06:55] <acidrain_> everything is loading fine. netflix is buffering like WAY ahead of where im watching. then for no reason: BOOM. unexpected error occured. try reloading the page. Error Code: M7363-1264-00000000
[06:56] <ObrienDave> acidrain_, seems to be a LOT of issues with that code. most having to do with netflix
[06:57] <acidrain_> ObrienDave: where are you getting that info from?
[06:57] <acidrain_> i cant even figure out what the code means
[06:58] <ObrienDave> try searching for the code
[06:58] <acidrain_> https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=netflix+Error+Code%3A+M7363-1264-00000000+-fixya
[06:58] <acidrain_> 0 results. lol
[06:59] <ObrienDave> https://www.google.com/search?q=M7363-1264-00000000&oq=M7363-1264-00000000&aqs=chrome..69i57.1544508j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
[06:59] <ObrienDave> i don't know where you get your google from LOL
[07:00] <micw> hi
[07:00] <micw> i have an ubuntu server that hangs during boot. on console 1 it shows that disks are mounted. on console 7 it shows that some services where starting/stopping
[07:01] <micw> but i cannot get a shell, sshd is not yet started
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !server | micw,
[07:01] <micw> oh, ok, thanks
[07:01] <ghost_> hiii
[07:02] <ObrienDave> ghost_, greetings & welcome
[07:03] <ghost_> I used install lightdm mac in nobslab for ubuntu but is bug error., whay., /
[07:03] <cfhowlett> ghost_, what language do you speak?
[07:03] <anohigisavay> xD
[07:03] <ghost_> I'm sorry.,
[07:04] <cfhowlett> ah MAN?  He left!  I was going to redirect him to a better channel!  No insult intended!
[07:05] <ObrienDave> just your dynamic personality ;P
[07:05]  * cfhowlett sniffs armpits, checks breath ...
[07:06] <ObrienDave> good thing you're halfway around the world from me ;P
[07:06] <anohigisavay> cfhowlett: how can you do this? * cfhowlett sniffs armpits, checks breath ...
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, oh, I already know, I could NEVER compete with your charmin' a**
[07:07] <ObrienDave> anohigisavay, add /me to the front
[07:07] <cfhowlett> anohigisavay, /me messagegoeshere
[07:07]  * anohigisavay haha thanks!
[07:07] <helmut__> hi
[07:08] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, my wife says i have none LOL
[07:08] <ObrienDave> helmut__, greetings & welcome
[07:08] <AcidRain> wtf.
[07:08] <AcidRain> i just rebooted my ubuntu 14 comp to see if that would fix my netflix issue. and its boot logo is "kubuntu" and it wont boot past it
[07:09] <hillary_> which terminal command do i use to reinstall libre office ubuntu 12.04
[07:09] <cfhowlett> hillary_, sudo apt-get install PackageNameHere
[07:10] <ObrienDave> hillary_, sudo apt-get install -reinstall libreoffice
[07:10] <geirha> hillary_: why reinstall?
[07:10] <AcidRain> has anyone else tried ubuntu 14 and have this issue?
[07:11] <anohigisavay> AcidRain: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth  this can reset your splash screen but no clue about why you can't boot
[07:11] <AcidRain> its like im in a boot loop on an android device
[07:11] <AcidRain> lol
[07:11] <RoBo_V> Morning Guys !
[07:15] <hillary_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8306955/
[07:18] <acidrain_> this is hax
[07:18] <acidrain_> period
[07:18] <cfhowlett> hillary_, I don't normally suggest this, but you COULD download or torrent the libreoffice.deb and dpkg -i to install it
[07:22] <Guest17360> hi
[07:26] <geirha> hillary_: You have added a ppa with libreoffice in?  apt-cache policy libroffice
[07:27] <ghost_> hii
[07:27] <ghost_> hii all
[07:27] <hillary_> no
[07:27] <cfhowlett> ghost_, yes we see you.
[07:28] <ghost_> how are u cfhowlett
[07:28] <cfhowlett> ghost_, great.  ask your ubuntu questions
[07:30] <geirha> hillary_: could you pastebin this? shows information about the packages in question:  apt-cache policy libreoffice{,-core,-writer,-calc,-impress,-draw,-math,-base,-filter-mobiledev}
[07:30] <ghost_> cfhowlett : yaa., please wait
[07:31] <hillary_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8307059/
[07:32] <cfhowlett> hillary_, installed: none.
[07:32] <geirha> hillary_: that one's as expected at least, but the other command that includes the other libreoffice-* packages
[07:33] <cfhowlett> hillary_, paste the output: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:35] <geirha> hillary_, cfhowlett as for sources.list, a more useful command for that would be:  tail -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[07:35] <hillary_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8307083/
[07:36] <ikonia> he's installed it from a PPA then removed the PPA file
[07:36] <ikonia> so it doesn't know where the installed version came from
[07:36] <ikonia> but apt-policy isn't aware of the other versions as the ppa file has been removed
[07:36] <ikonia> apt-cache sorry
[07:36] <geirha> backports is enabled. Maybe there's a newer libreoffice in there
[07:37] <ghost_> I've installed lightdm_mac to myubuntu but there are errors when first turned on, please help., ?
[07:37] <hillary_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8307096/
[07:37] <ikonia> look at the bottom
[07:37] <geirha> right, so there has been a libreoffice ppa enabled at some point, but it's now disabled
[07:37] <ikonia> dissabled PPA's
[07:37] <cfhowlett> ikonia, yep there is is.  line 68, 72
[07:38] <ghost_> themes mac to ubuntu, from nobslab
[07:38] <cfhowlett> ikonia, apt-purge?
[07:38] <ikonia> ghost_: talk to them then
[07:38] <cfhowlett> ghost_, ask noslab for support
[07:39] <geirha> sudo apt-get install libreoffice{,-core,-writer,-calc,-impress,-draw,-math,-base,-filter-mobiledev}=3.5.7-0ubuntu6.1.0 # I think
[07:39] <ikonia> orrr no
[07:39] <ikonia> it's already installed
[07:39] <ikonia> from a ppa
[07:39] <ikonia> so trying to install a conflicting version is a bad thing
[07:39] <geirha> ikonia: will have to cover all the packages of course
[07:39] <ikonia> no you don't
[07:40] <ikonia> you're just trying to install conflicting packages
[07:40] <ikonia> so covering all would just try to install more conflicting packages
[07:40] <geirha> I might not be, but that's the list of packages from the initial apt-get install, it will likely show more packages which needs downgrading, yes
[07:41] <ikonia> downgrading ??  they are totally different and in conflict
[07:41] <ikonia> you need to resolve the conflict
[07:41] <ikonia> and get rid of the PPA stuff
[07:41] <ikonia> not try to install from base
[07:41] <ikonia> but carry on
[07:41] <ghost_> cfhowlett : ok, I send bug report error
[07:41] <geirha> *sigh* fine, I'll leave it to you
[07:41] <ikonia> I'm tired of fixing the libreoffice PPA
[07:42] <ikonia> *sigh* I'm not doing it
[07:50] <imhuman> hi :D
[07:51] <mowol> Hi. In ubuntu 12.04, i removed my users password, but in order to add new users or change the password again, i need to unlock the settings page. However, neither an empty password or my old password works. What do i do?
[07:52] <ObrienDave> mowol, www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[07:52] <mowol> ObrienDave: i'll try it out. Thanks
[07:52] <imhuman> hi :D
[07:52] <imhuman> what r u guys doing now?
[07:53] <imhuman> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:53] <imhuman> anyone??? @@
[07:53] <cfhowlett> imhuman, ask you ubuntu questions
[07:53] <somsip> imhuman: this is a support channel. Do you have a support issue?
[07:53] <imhuman> oh no @@
[07:53] <imhuman> sry
[07:57] <mowol> ObrienDave: great, that worked. Thanks again :)
[07:57] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[07:57] <dwalk> what up humans
[08:07] <ghost_> how to read the windows partition after install ubuntu 14:04 ?
[08:08] <BenNZ> hi , trying to allow members of the users have access to the shutdown command via sudo without needing password , here is my sudoers file if anyone can help http://paste.ubuntu.com/8307246/
[08:08] <BenNZ> *users group
[08:08] <somsip> ghost_: mount it, access it. What filesystem is it? Something normal like NTFS?
[08:08] <cfhowlett> ghost_, mount the partition, enter your sudo password when requested.
[08:09] <ghost_> all : how to., ?
[08:10] <cfhowlett> ghost_, click on the windows partition.  you'll get a pop-up requesting your password.   enter password.
[08:10] <BenNZ> ghost_: if using win8 , make sure to disable fast boot aswell , otherwise youll only be able to mount the partition read only
[08:10] <k1l_> ghost_: open the file browser, click on the windows partition (named after the size) on the left panel, use it.
[08:11] <k1l_> ghost_: if windows uses the "fast start" thing you cant mount them and need to set that off in windows first
[08:13] <anohigisavay> one of the first things i do for every distro i use is install ntfs-config
[08:13] <BenNZ> with my problem , looks like all other members of the users group except me can access the shutdown command via sudo without needing a password
[08:14] <cfhowlett> BenNZ, wait what?  you have multiple sudoers?  why?
[08:14] <BenNZ> cfhowlett: all i want is members of one group to have access to the shutdown command preferably without a password
[08:15] <BenNZ> cfhowlett: all users of that group can , except for some reason my user (even tho im in the users group)
[08:15] <cfhowlett> BenNZ, ehhhh, OK.  might want to ask #ubuntu-server or ##linx
[08:15] <anohigisavay> are you sure?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> ##linux
[08:16] <BenNZ> cfhowlett: ill try there then thanks
[08:16] <anohigisavay> if you just usermod -aG users youself then you'll have to logout before changes come to effect
[08:16] <anohigisavay> BenNZ:
[08:16] <BenNZ> anohigisavay: im in the users group already
[08:18] <anohigisavay> BenNZ: i'm not sure but i suspect the line ben ALL=... overrides the above
[08:19] <BenNZ> anohigisavay: just thinking the same thing , but it really shouldnt
[08:19] <cynicallemon> anohigisavay: thast what i was thinking
[08:20] <BenNZ> anohigisavay: yeah thats it , i commented out my user from sudoers and it works as expected
[08:21] <BenNZ> anohigisavay: which is odd im sure in the past ive been able to configure my user to not need a password for certain commands
[08:21] <anohigisavay> BenNZ: maybe the order matters
[08:22] <anohigisavay> or the settings are processed such that user settings override group setings
[08:22] <BenNZ> anohigisavay: im thinking that if i use !/sbin/shutdown on my users line , then i should be able to , i might test that
[08:23] <cynicallemon> BenNZ: When multiple entries match for a user, they are applied in order.  Where there are multiple matches, the last match is used (which is not necessarily the most specific match)
[08:24] <BenNZ> cynicallemon: ok i see
[08:25] <cynicallemon> BenNZ: hence it would prompt for a password
[08:26] <BenNZ> cynicallemon: ill change the order and see if that makes a difference
[08:26] <cynicallemon> BenNZ: seems the logical thing to do
[08:31] <thepatriot> hi all
[08:48] <ynon> hellow
[08:50] <ynon> i got a problem with ubuntu 14.04. wifi is connecting but internet is not working
[08:51] <ynon> i mean no internet access despite appearing to be connected to wireless network
[08:52] <EriC^^> try ping google.com in the terminal
[08:54] <ynon> but still access appearing even the internet  is realy off
[08:54] <ynon> i' using the 14.04
[08:55] <ynon> hi Eric
[09:10] <dima_> bvcnbkc
[09:16] <g105b> My boot partition is full, can't upgrade. Is it safe to delete all these files within /boot ? vmlinuz-3.13.0-*-generic initrd.img-3.13.0-*-generic config-3.13.0-*-generic System.map-3.13.0-*-generic?
[09:18] <cynicallemon> g105b: what have you done to clean up files?
[09:18] <g105b> cynicallemon: sudo apt-get clean ... doesn't remove any of them
[09:18] <g105b> cynicallemon: haven't tried anything other than that, as that was the only thing that was suggested by the GUI
[09:19] <cynicallemon> g105b: dont remove anything in /boot
[09:19] <g105b> cynicallemon: okay
[09:20] <cynicallemon> g105b: try a sudo apt-get autoclean
[09:20] <cynicallemon> g105b: and a sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:20] <g105b> cynicallemon: ok that removed about 50 mb of stuff
[09:21] <g105b> cynicallemon: still get "The upgrade needs a total of 81.4 M free space on disk '/boot'."
[09:22] <cynicallemon> g105b: you on a ubuntu desktop?
[09:22] <g105b> cynicallemon: Yes, a pretty standard 14.04 install. this is what's in /boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8307738/
[09:23] <cynicallemon> g105b: what does uname -a say?
[09:23] <g105b> cynicallemon: Linux Lapetus 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 4 21:40:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:24] <cynicallemon> g105b: you have probably got a few older kernels installed
[09:26] <g105b> cynicallemon: are these the files in /boot?
[09:26] <anohigisavay> g105b: just dpkg-query -L linux-image to list the images you installed
[09:26] <cynicallemon> g105b: can you paste the output of, dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[09:28] <anohigisavay> oops sorry my command is wrong. use cynicallemon's
[09:28] <g105b> anohigisavay: cynicallemon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8307773/
[09:28] <DarsVaeda> how can I figure out the command that is used by deja-dup?
[09:30] <cynicallemon> g105b: you can apt-get remove linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-3.13.0-27-generic linux-image-3.13.0-29-generic
[09:30] <cynicallemon> g105b: assuming there not needed
[09:30] <g105b> cynicallemon: what about the linux-image-extra files?
[09:30] <EriC^^> leave the last 2 ( 30 an 29 (
[09:31] <cynicallemon> ok
[09:31] <cynicallemon> g105b: apt-get remove linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-3.13.0-27-generic
[09:32] <cynicallemon> g105b: the extra will be marked for autoremoval i think
[09:32] <g105b> EriC^^: thanks, can you explain why?
[09:32] <cynicallemon> g105b: always best to have a kernel to fallback to
[09:32] <EriC^^> g105b: ^^
[09:33] <g105b> Thanks for the advice everyone.
[09:33] <cynicallemon> i just live dangerously :)
[09:33] <cynicallemon> after you remove those, do a apt-get autoremove too
[09:33] <g105b> rodger that
[09:34] <cynicallemon> if the linux-image-extra are still there for 24 and 27 then remove those too
[09:37] <cynicallemon> think that should free about 250-300MB of space
[09:38] <anohigisavay> anyway tried systemd-nspawn to launch ubuntu images?
[09:44] <the_dark_knight> Hi
[09:47] <the_dark_knight> I have an invoices/ dir. invoices in my application are generated by 1) a python script 2) web server. So permissions on invoices/ are "me www-data". Now my question is suppos I create a file invoice_1.pdf in invoices/ using python script. So permissions on that file will be "me me". Now I want to overwrite that file by the webserver. But www-data doesnot have permissions on invoice_1.pdf. How do I overwrite it? I don't want to add www-data to "
[09:58] <Kazazi> hi, im using "tree" command in shell...it shows files which doesnt exist...neither with "ls -la" command nor i open the folder via desktop ... why is that?
[09:59] <EriC^^> Kazazi: maybe it uses a db like locate?
[09:59] <EriC^^> !info tree
[09:59] <Guest22304> hi all
[09:59] <EriC^^> check the man page
[10:00] <Kazazi> Eric^^: thanks. sure i check
[10:00] <Guest22304> I boot up 14.04 server livecd, but  no fdisk command in it
[10:00] <Guest22304> why?
[10:01] <ObrienDave> ask in #ubuntu-server
[10:04] <Rukh> hi
[10:04] <ObrienDave> Rukh, greetings & welcome
[10:06] <mohan3142123> hello, quick doubt - any help is welcome. NTFS partition with Windows 8 installed. Not booting, has bad sectors. If I do a fresh install of Ubuntu, will it fix/repair/handle the bad sectors?
[10:06] <mohan3142123> or should I do chkdsk first?
[10:07] <yubin> :) everybody
[10:07] <aaron__> hi :)
[10:08] <ObrienDave> mohan3142123, fresh Ubuntu install will NOT fix windows partition/sectors errors
[10:10] <mohan3142123> sorry, should have been clearer - I meant, if I reformatted the NTFS partition to ext, would it fix the errors? And then install Ubuntu...
[10:10] <ObrienDave> mohan3142123, probably yes. doing so will wipe out windows. you sure you want to do that?
[10:11] <mohan3142123> yes
[10:11] <ObrienDave> then have fun with it :)
[10:12] <MonkDAcez> hey fellas, you guys know any idea where i can find a disassembler program online for a small jo
[10:12] <MonkDAcez> job*
[10:12] <mohan3142123> ObrienDave, I meant to install linux anyway. Just wondering if the errors have to be fixed with chkdsk first. I read someplace that this has to be done before formatting to ext. But if the formatting itself would handle the errors, then I can save time and directly go ahead with the linux install...
[10:12] <yubin> MonkDAcez google it and it will give you the answer hopefully
[10:13] <EriC^^> mohan3142123: i'd chkdsk first
[10:13] <MonkDAcez> ok yubin, was hoping for more direct contacts, thanks
[10:13] <mohan3142123> EriC^^: could you explain? As in, why chkdsk first?\
[10:15] <ObrienDave> mohan3142123, running chkdsk first would do a low-level format on the bad sectors first and then mark them as bad if not successful at repair
[10:15] <mohan3142123> ObrienDave: wouldn't a reformat do that as well? or not?
[10:16] <ObrienDave> mohan3142123, maybe yes, maybe no. i would think killing the partition/ redefining it would also work. YMMV
[10:17] <mohan3142123> alright. I guess it's a few hours with chkdsk it is then. Thank you ObrienDave and EriC^^
[10:18] <anohigisavay> just recreate the f***ing partition table
[10:19] <ObrienDave> mohan3142123, use gparted to redefine and format to EXT. it will be fine
[10:20] <ObrienDave> anohigisavay, obfuscated swearing is not allowed here
[10:21] <anohigisavay> ok sorry
[10:21] <hillary_> I have downloaded the LibreOffice_4.3.1_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz. Help me with a terminal command to install it . ubuntu 12.04
[10:22] <ObrienDave> hillary_, just a minute please
[10:22] <hillary_> ok
[10:22] <Radar> I've got a script at /etc/init/puma-manager, but when I do "service puma-manager restart" I'm told "puma-manager: unrecognized service". Why is this?
[10:22] <Radar> How can I make it a recognised service?
[10:23] <ObrienDave> hillary_, unpack the archive first. i need to fine the instructions
[10:23] <ObrienDave> *find
[10:23] <anohigisavay> Radar: is it upstart script or init.d
[10:23] <Radar> anohigisavay: upstart script
[10:23] <hillary_> is it sudo dpkg -i LibreOffice_4.3.1_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz???
[10:23] <ikonia> hillary_: use the packages provided by ubuntu
[10:23] <ikonia> hillary_: no
[10:23] <anohigisavay> if it's upstart try start puma-manager
[10:23] <ikonia> hillary_: that is not the command
[10:23] <ikonia> hillary_: why are you not using the version ubuntu supplies ?
[10:23] <ObrienDave> hillary_, no
[10:24] <hillary_> i have tried but failing
[10:24] <Radar> anohigisavay: ah, thank you
[10:24] <Radar> anohigisavay: that does work :)
[10:24] <hillary_> ok
[10:24] <ikonia> hillary_: what is the issue using the ubuntu ones ?
[10:26] <mohan3142123> thanks again ObrienDave
[10:26] <ObrienDave> mohan3142123, welcome
[10:27] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308142/
[10:28] <hillary_> i have downloaded LibreOffice_4.3.1_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz
[10:28] <ikonia> hillary_:  you need to remove the packages you installed from the PPA
[10:28] <ikonia> hillary_: this was explained to you earlier
[10:28] <hillary_> i have done so
[10:28] <ikonia> hillary_: then re-install the packages from the stable/supported ubuntu repo, not from a tar file
[10:29] <ikonia> hillary_: you have not
[10:29] <hillary_> unless am missing procedures
[10:29] <ikonia> hillary_: thaht is why there is package conflicts
[10:29] <EiriksUbuntu> I am having issues with flash plugin installer, it seems that auto updating daily keeps downloading 2 separate packages and replacing each package with the other package. So, *.400.* replaces *.406.*, then *.406.* replaces *.400.* and on and on.
[10:29] <ikonia> hillary_: how did you remove the PPA packages
[10:29] <hillary_> kindly guide me on how to remove the ppa
[10:29] <hillary_> idont remember installing
[10:30] <hillary_> i have been using the one from ubuntu untill this morning
[10:30] <ikonia> hillary_: how did you remove the PPA packages
[10:30] <hillary_> how can i check the presence of ppa
[10:30] <hillary_> ?
[10:30] <ikonia> hillary_: you said you had removed them - how did you remove them
[10:30] <ikonia> hillary_: answer the question being asked
[10:31] <hillary_> sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
[10:31] <ikonia> hillary_: please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep -i libre"
[10:32] <hillary_> ok
[10:33] <hillary_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308168/
[10:34] <mrwappie> sup
[10:34] <EiriksUbuntu> how do i test swap?
[10:35] <mattxtn> to see if you have one?
[10:35] <hillary_> ikonia: seen the output?
[10:35] <EiriksUbuntu> yeah
[10:35] <EiriksUbuntu> mattxtn yep
[10:35] <ikonia> hillary_: just about to read it
[10:35] <hillary_> ok
[10:35] <EriC^^> EiriksUbuntu: free -m
[10:35] <mattxtn> try sudo swapon -s
[10:36] <mattxtn> or that
[10:36] <ikonia> hillary_: ok, so there are still some packages there
[10:36] <ikonia> hillary_: what is the command you are using to install libreoffice ?
[10:36] <ikonia> (exactly the command)
[10:37] <EiriksUbuntu> ok, here is what I got: /dev/sda5                               partition	2860028	0	-1
[10:37] <mattxtn> yup, thats a swap
[10:37] <EiriksUbuntu> it shows priority is -1
[10:38] <EiriksUbuntu> used is 0
[10:38] <ObrienDave> swap is only used when needed
[10:39] <hillary_> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[10:39] <EiriksUbuntu> Yes, i understand this, but it's never being used
[10:39] <ObrienDave> so?
[10:39] <ikonia> hillary_: ok, run that command, and pastebin the FULL output please.
[10:39] <the_dark_knight> I have an invoices/ dir. invoices in my application are generated by 1) a python script 2) web server. So permissions on invoices/ are "me www-data". Now my question is suppos I create a file invoice_1.pdf in invoices/ using python script. So permissions on that file will be "me me". Now I want to overwrite that file by the webserver. But www-data doesnot have permissions on invoice_1.pdf. How do I overwrite it? I don't want to add www-data to "
[10:40] <ObrienDave> EiriksUbuntu, how much RAM do you have?
[10:40] <hillary_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308221/
[10:40] <EiriksUbuntu> ObrienDave I think 4gb
[10:40] <mattxtn> free -m will tell u how much
[10:41] <EiriksUbuntu>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:41] <EiriksUbuntu> Mem:          2737       1256       1480          7        109        536
[10:42] <ikonia> hillary_: please pastebin the full output of the command "sudo apt-get update"
[10:42] <k1l_> EiriksUbuntu: seems like the BIOS is cutting some ram of for the video card
[10:43] <EiriksUbuntu> that's what I was wondering, I want to run blender, but I'm not going to be able to if my graphics card is hindered
[10:44] <k1l_> !paste  | EiriksUbuntu
[10:44] <k1l_> put all the free -m there
[10:45] <EiriksUbuntu> ok will do
[10:45] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308265/
[10:45] <ikonia> hillary_: ok, thank you
[10:46] <ikonia> !info libreoffice-core precise
[10:47] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-core
[10:48] <Radar> Is it possible to get more information past "Job failed to start" for an upstart job?
[10:49] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308279/
[10:50] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get purge uno-libs3
[10:51] <EiriksUbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308298/
[10:52] <EiriksUbuntu> I am having issues with flash plugin installer, it seems that auto updating daily keeps downloading 2 separate packages and replacing each package with the other package. So, *.400.* replaces *.406.*, then *.406.* replaces *.400.* and on and on.
[10:52] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308304/
[10:52] <ikonia> hillary_: now try to install libreoffice again
[10:52] <k1l_> EiriksUbuntu: see the line with Buffers/cache. in the used row that is what your system actually needs: 806mbb. the 1551mb is with the buffers and cahce stuff which is not occupying the ram.
[10:54] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308310/
[10:54] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-core
[10:54] <EiriksUbuntu> k1l_ ok, so everything seems to be as it should be, but swap isn't being used?
[10:55] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308321/
[10:55] <ObrienDave> EiriksUbuntu, just because you have swap does not mean it will be used. it's not like windows swap
[10:55] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get purge libexttextcat0
[10:56] <EiriksUbuntu> I just want to speed up loading applications that I close/open often
[10:56] <ObrienDave> EiriksUbuntu, Linux does NOT work that way
[10:56] <mattxtn> ikonia wouldn't sudo apt-get autoremove get rid of that
[10:57] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308329/
[10:57] <EiriksUbuntu> that's what swap used to do, when I had 10.04 it was way faster than this
[10:58] <ikonia> mattxtn: not %100 sure with the ppa config being removed
[10:58] <EiriksUbuntu> this is just as slow as windows, but uses much less cpu (which fixed my over heating)
[10:58] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-core
[10:58] <ObrienDave> EiriksUbuntu, you're probably correct. but there is a lot more to the OS since then
[10:59] <LordDeath> can I log out my graphical login at tty7 over the shell in tty1?
[10:59] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308345/
[11:00] <ikonia> !info libexttextcat0 precise
[11:00] <EiriksUbuntu> Yeah, I understand that. I'm not dissatisfied with it, I just want to get the best I can out of this 4 year old laptop without buying anything new
[11:00] <apeeyush_> I restarted my Ubuntu 12.04 today (after a month or so for which it was continuously on :P) and it's not working. I am thinking of installing Ubuntu 14.04 along with the currently installed 12.04 and windows for the time being and debug 12.04 later.  How should I partition my disk in this case? I have created an empty partition (currently unallocated) of size 100GB. Do I need separate swap areas for the 2 versions of Ubuntu?
[11:00] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get install libexttextcat0
[11:00] <ObrienDave> EiriksUbuntu, mine is 5 years old. i understand completely :)
[11:01] <ObrienDave> apeeyush_, no you do not need separate swap
[11:01] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308366/
[11:02] <ikonia> hillary_: apt-cache policy libexttextcat-data
[11:02] <apeeyush_> ok. thanks ObrienDave .. And what should I do with the 100 GB currently unallocated. Should I make it ext4 with "/"
[11:03] <ObrienDave> apeeyush_, not sure. never tried installing 2 versions of Ubuntu. sorry
[11:03] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308377/
[11:03] <apeeyush_> ObrienDave, ok. thanks anyway :)
[11:03] <EiriksUbuntu> ObrienDave it feels good to know I'm not alone in that. I am getting a new prescription tonight for social anxiety / PTSD, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel :)
[11:04] <pngl> Hi everyone, I have a Lenovo_Recovery partition on my computer but grub doesn't offer me to boot from it. How can I do that? I've been told to try "supergrub" or add "chainloading" but I'm not sure what that is.
[11:05] <ikonia> hillary_: apt-cache policy libexttextcat0
[11:05] <EiriksUbuntu> apeeyush_ the installer will sort it all out if you install along side, it will also allow you to update (and keep everything) if you want
[11:05] <EriC^^> pngl: what are you ultimately trying to achieve?
[11:05] <ObrienDave> EiriksUbuntu, sometimes you have to live by "if it works, don't try to fix it" :)
[11:05] <ikonia> !info libexttextcat0
[11:05] <ikonia> !info libexttextcat0 precise
[11:05] <ikonia> !info libexttextcat0-data
[11:05] <ikonia> !info libexttextcat0-data precise
[11:06] <pngl> EriC^^: reinstall Windows over Ubuntu from recovery partition. Install Ubuntu inside a VM in Windows.
[11:06] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308395/
[11:06] <dsdsq> Is it possible to make "quick lanuch" icons on the top bar in gnome 3.10?
[11:06] <ikonia> !info libexttextcat-data precise
[11:06] <EriC^^> pngl: ok, usually you boot into recovery partition's by pressing F10 or something when the pc boots
[11:06] <ikonia> !info libexttextcat-data
[11:07] <EriC^^> pngl: most likely, your pc won't boot it anymore, since you messed around with the partition's
[11:07] <apeeyush_> EiriksUbuntu: thanks for the advice. I am worried about the alongside option because I also have a Windows. I am worried that installing 14.04 alongside 12.04 may overwrite windows partition..
[11:07] <ikonia> hillary_: apt-get purge libexttextcat-data
[11:07] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get purge libexttextcat-data
[11:07] <apeeyush_> Should  I be worried about that?
[11:07] <EriC^^> pngl: give it a shot
[11:08] <dsdsq> also, gnome 3.10 on 14.04 does not detect my wwan/mobile broadband modem (ericsson n5321gw). works fine on debian squeeze
[11:08] <dsdsq> debian wheezy, sorry
[11:08] <pngl> EriC^^: yes. I press F11 and get a Windows 8-looking interface, but when I select "reset computer" it says that a partition is missing. I have another partition, WINRE_DRV, which also contains recovery stuff. I believe that's where it goes when I press F11 but then it doesn't see the Lenovo_Recovery partition (much bigger) which contains the actual Windows 8 installation files.
[11:08] <EriC^^> pngl: ok, worse case scenario you can recover everything yourself
[11:09] <EriC^^> pngl: you'll need a windows recovery usb ( or anything that gives you a command prompt )
[11:09] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308414/
[11:09] <apeeyush_> btw I also posted the question on askubuntu in case someone could answer there.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/522324/installing-ubuntu-14-04-alongside-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows
[11:09] <dsdsq> pngl: how big the the winre_drv?
[11:09] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get install libexttextcat-data
[11:10] <pngl> dsdsq: 1GB. Lenovory_Recovery is 18GB
[11:10] <EriC^^> pngl: yeah it contains the image file
[11:10] <dsdsq> pngl: the winre drive is only the windows boot files then
[11:11] <dsdsq> pngl: for bitlocker bootloader, rescue mode etc
[11:11] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308426/
[11:11] <dsdsq> pngl: winre.wim?
[11:11] <dsdsq> pngl: that is the image filename, neh?
[11:11] <ObrienDave> hillary_, \o/ making progress :)
[11:11] <pngl> dsdsq: could I boot directly from Lenovo_Recovery?
[11:11] <ikonia> hillary_: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-core
[11:11] <pngl> dsdsq: yes
[11:12] <pngl> dsdsq: in WINRE_DRV/Recovery/WindowsRE/winre.wim
[11:12] <dsdsq> mhm
[11:12] <EriC^^> pngl: dsdsq it might be something else, winre is just the recovery environment, like a windows environment to install the actual stuff
[11:12] <EiriksUbuntu> apeeyush_ during installaton it will offer you the option to update 12.04 to 14.04 and that's what I did. I kept all the packages, then after I booted into the updated OS I let the cleanup/updater do all the rest and it works perfect
[11:12] <EriC^^> pngl: it should be another huge .wim , with a bunch of indexes too,
[11:12] <pngl> dsdsq: EriC^^: in Lenovo_Partition there is an 11GB install.wim
[11:13] <dsdsq> EriC^^: nah, its there for bitlocker loaders should he choose to use it
[11:13] <hillary_> ikonia: It is installing. I wait to complete
[11:13] <EiriksUbuntu> does someone have a better text to speach script than xctts.py?
[11:14] <pngl> dsdsq: EriC^^:  Just a guess, there's a bunch for FACTORY_POST directories containing .efi files. What would happen if I moved them to /boot/EFI?
[11:14] <pngl> s/for/of
[11:14] <EriC^^> pngl: what you need to do is extract the image to C: , after creating it
[11:14] <dsdsq> EriC^^: winre.wim is maybe 150MB
[11:15] <EriC^^> pngl: then you can use bcdedit C:\windows ..blabla to create the efi files on the efi partition
[11:15] <apeeyush_> EiriksUbuntu: ok. So updating from 12.04 to 14.04 won't wipe off windows.. right?
[11:15] <EiriksUbuntu> nope
[11:15] <EriC^^> dsdsq: i know, i mean the install.wim
[11:15] <EriC^^> and he has to choose the right index as well
[11:15] <EriC^^> like it's probably index 3 or 4, mine is 4
[11:15] <EiriksUbuntu> apeeyush_ nope it won't even touch it
[11:16] <pngl> EriC^^: I don't know how to do these steps :( For instance "extract the image to C:" ? Do you mean extract the content of install.wim to an NTFS-formatted partition?
[11:16] <EriC^^> pngl: yes, using dism
[11:16] <EriC^^> it's a command line tool found in windows recovery usb's
[11:16] <apeeyush_> EiriksUbuntu: thanls :) I started the update :D
[11:17] <dsdsq> pngl:  http://www.datafilehost.com/d/77b22963
[11:17] <EiriksUbuntu> apeeyush_ okay, well I'll be in here through the whole process so keep me updated :)
[11:17] <dsdsq> pngl: live-boot windows from any livecd, extract the license key from firmware with that file and get a windows install media to install from scratch
[11:18] <EriC^^> pngl: you can extract the license key in ubuntu in the terminal
[11:18] <EriC^^> 1 command hold on
[11:19] <pngl> dsdsq: This looks difficult. I will try that, but before, would you have any guesses as to why the normal recovery process fails? As in, there's this Lenovo_Recovery partition, shouldn't I be able to boot an installer from it?
[11:19] <EriC^^> but you already have the recovery partition
[11:19] <dsdsq> pngl: you should, use "efibootmgr" on ubuntu to see if there is an entry for lenovo recovery
[11:19] <EiriksUbuntu> lol, the new iphones are out today, but they don't got jack on the LG L3 :)
[11:20] <dsdsq> pngl: if so, rename its efi loader to the name of the normal windows loader
[11:20] <dsdsq> pngl: or just change the order with efibootmgr
[11:20] <dsdsq> pngl: you should retrieve your key from firmware for a rainy day anyway ;)
[11:21] <dsdsq> ubuntu 14.04 is gnome 3.10, right?
[11:22] <ikonia> it's unity
[11:22] <pngl> dsdsq: you're right :)
[11:22] <k1l_> !info gnome-shell
[11:22] <pngl> dsdsq: I don't see Lenovo_Recovery listed. Coulud it be because the partition has flags "hidden" set and "boot" unset?
[11:22] <EiriksUbuntu> if you want GDE you have to d/l it
[11:22] <hillary_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8308509/
[11:22] <ikonia> hillary_: looks like you're all done
[11:23] <ObrienDave> hillary_, \o/ YAY
[11:23] <EiriksUbuntu> yay!
[11:23] <dsdsq> maybe. which lenovo model, btw?
[11:23] <EiriksUbuntu> I am having issues with flash plugin installer, it seems that auto updating daily keeps downloading 2 separate packages and replacing each package with the other package. So, *.400.* replaces *.406.*, then *.406.* replaces *.400.* and on and on.
[11:24] <pngl> dsdsq: T440s
[11:24] <dsdsq> ahhh
[11:24] <dsdsq> same model as me
[11:24] <hillary_> ikonia:can i install libreoffice?
[11:24] <ikonia> hillary_: yes
[11:24] <dsdsq> i went through a lot of pain
[11:24] <dsdsq> check your bios, see if rapid start is enabled on power settings
[11:24] <pngl> dsdsq: it is
[11:24] <dsdsq> it will force-boot windows no f-ing-matter-what
[11:25] <dsdsq> disable, reboot and try recobvery
[11:25] <ikonia> dsdsq: no need to swear
[11:25] <ikonia> please don't
[11:25] <pngl> ha thanks i'll try
[11:25] <EiriksUbuntu> wow, my cat just hawked up a huge hairball holy cow
[11:25] <dsdsq> ikonia: forsakenly
[11:25] <dsdsq> ikonia: forsakenly-matter-what
[11:25] <ikonia> EiriksUbuntu: try #ubuntu-offtopic for cat hair news
[11:26] <EiriksUbuntu> ikonia lol
[11:26] <pngl> dsdsq: uefi only/off/both ?
[11:26] <ikonia> dsdsq: or just say "sure, no problem" rather than pretend if meant something else
[11:26] <dsdsq> pngl: i have uefi and secure boot enabled
[11:27] <pngl> you're talking about "rapid start" in Power, not "quick start" in "startup", right?
[11:27] <dsdsq> yes
[11:27] <dsdsq> pngl: this wont work if the big lenovo recovery partition has been deleted though
[11:28] <pngl> dsdsq: no it's still there. well I could explore it from Ubuntu anyway. It does have the flags hidden and not boot though, which disturbs me.
[11:28] <dsdsq> MBR boot flag is irrelevant on GPT
[11:28] <pngl> right, sorry I'm new to this
[11:28] <dsdsq> also the EFI boot part is the only to have the boot flag set
[11:29] <dsdsq> and hidden is to make sure you dont use the recovery part for pr0n
[11:30] <pngl> ok so I can go to "Windows Boot Manager", which I could before, but it gives me the same message "Unable to reset your PC. A required partition drive is missing".
[11:30] <dsdsq> yeah, dont use grub to load windows
[11:30] <hillary_> ikonia: Thank you very much. Am back to normal. God bless you people
[11:30] <dsdsq> F12 during bios splash
[11:30] <pngl> dsdsq: yeah I'm retrying with F11 at BIOS splash
[11:31] <ObrienDave> hillary_, give ikonia a !cookie :)
[11:31] <dsdsq> pngl: you rally should do a clean install of windows anyway. the lenovo image is chock-full of crapware made by a chinese government affiliate
[11:31] <ikonia> hillary_: no problem
[11:31] <hillary_> He deserve i tell you
[11:31] <ikonia> hillary_: try to stay away from PPA's
[11:32] <ikonia> hillary_: (PPA's or external repos)
[11:32] <hillary_> I will thank you for your advice
[11:32] <ikonia> no problem
[11:32] <pngl> dsdsq: damn same message. I'm going to do clean reinstall as you said :)
[11:32] <dsdsq> pngl: exttract the key
[11:32] <hillary_> ok
[11:33] <EriC^^> pngl: it's very easy to recover form the recovery partition manually
[11:33] <hillary_> i will be using anything only from ubuntu
[11:33] <EriC^^> pngl: that said, this will give you you're product key form the bios sudo cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM
[11:33] <ikonia> hillary_: if you are  in any doubt, ask the people in this channel
[11:33] <EriC^^> pngl: i'd advised against a clean install though
[11:33] <pngl> EriC^^: what was that line to extract a key?
[11:33] <EriC^^> sudo cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM
[11:33] <pngl> EriC^^: ah, why?
[11:33] <hillary_> Thank you. I have trusted this channel ever
[11:33] <EriC^^> cause first you have to find the proper iso online
[11:33] <dsdsq> pngl: if you do a full bios factory defaults and set os optimized defaults to "on" and *then* reinstall windows+ubuntu you will get separate windows and ubuntu entries in the boot (f12) menu
[11:34] <EriC^^> and it's a PITA, and you already have everything in your recovery partition
[11:34] <dsdsq> pngl: remember to disable rapid start after the facreset though
[11:34] <EriC^^> unless you're anti-bloatware i don't see why you would opt for a fresh install over the oem recovery
[11:35] <pngl> EriC^^: should I be worried that the key contains gibberish (box characters with numbers in it)?
[11:35] <dsdsq> EriC^^: lenovo is owned by the chinese gov
[11:35] <EriC^^> pngl: the key is the last digits, after the box characters
[11:35] <pngl> Ah it's fine,just my terminal acting up. Vim is nicer.
[11:35] <EriC^^> XXXXX-XXXX-....
[11:35] <EriC^^> 5 of those XXXXX's
[11:35] <dsdsq> EriC^^: i cant find my key that way
[11:36] <pngl> EriC^^: well I've just tried recovery with the help and dsdsq and I'm going nowhere
[11:36] <EriC^^> pngl: if you have a way of getting a command prompt, then you're all set..
[11:37] <pngl> EriC^^: I'm completely open to suggestions of what I should try, it's just that apart from clean install I'm out of ideas right now.
[11:37] <pngl> EriC^^: ok let me try that
[11:42] <cadefy> hi, how can I changed "Last Login:" from "juzz.local" to whatever I like? when I log in
[11:45] <pngl> EriC^^: sorry for the delay. I have a command prompt.
[11:46] <EiriksUbuntu> can someone tell me what the best visual tweak app is? I want the pretty stuff.
[11:49] <pngl> EriC^^: I'm not used to windows cmd though so I don't know what to do from there.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:53] <EriC^^> pngl: sorry im back, was eating lunch
[11:53] <EriC^^> ok
[11:53] <EriC^^> first you have to check the partitions, run diskpart
[11:54] <mattxtn> Anyone know of a program to change id tags in mp3s in mass?
[11:54] <EriC^^> you'll need to delete the ubuntu stuff, and create a ntfs partition for windows
[11:55] <pngl> EriC^^: ok I have a DISKPART prompt
[11:55] <EriC^^> ok, the commands are pretty intuitive
[11:55] <kill_-9_1> does Ubuntu uses Shim on UEFI ?
[11:55] <EriC^^> list lists disks and partitions, and select selects them
[11:56] <EriC^^> pngl: so you'd do list
[11:56] <EriC^^> or list disk, let me find an online guide or something
[11:56] <pngl> EriC^^: alright, I'm going to format the Ubuntu partition
[11:56] <EriC^^> pngl: no you need to delete it
[11:57] <EriC^^> ok
[11:57] <EriC^^> nevermind
[11:57] <EriC^^> yeah format to ntfs
[11:57] <EriC^^> be sure to use -q or something
[11:57] <EriC^^> or it'll take forever
[11:57] <EriC^^> ( for a quick format )
[11:58] <pngl> done
[11:58] <EriC^^> ok, the efi partition is there right?
[11:58] <EriC^^> cause you need it
[11:58] <EriC^^> you can mount it by selecting it, then assign letter=a
[11:59] <EiriksUbuntu> Is there any free "classes" i could take to be able to join into the Ubuntu community and help?
[11:59] <pngl> EriC^^: oh crap I've formatted the 1GB Recovery partition. Hope that's ok until I reboot. What is the EFI partition?
[11:59] <EriC^^> the efi partition is the partition that holds the boot files
[11:59] <EriC^^> it's like 300mb or so, at the start of the disk
[11:59] <EriC^^> it should be fat32 i think
[12:00] <EriC^^> you should have one, cause ubuntu uses it too
[12:00] <pngl> EriC^^: yeah that's fine, I think it is "System" (iirc that's what was mounted as /boot under Ubunut)
[12:01] <EriC^^> is it fat32?
[12:01] <knob> Good morning all.   An odd error.   I want to check my apache logs.   I am running 14.04      I want to go to   /var/log/apache2/access.log
[12:01] <knob> Yet if I go to  /var/log           and the     sudo cd apache2       it tells me      cd: command not found
[12:01] <knob> Am I missing something basic?
[12:02] <EriC^^> you don't need sudo to cd there
[12:02] <pngl> EriC^^: yes.
[12:02] <pngl> EriC^^: having trouble formatting Ubuntu partition, sorry, 1mn
[12:02] <knob> EriC^^, yet it tells me     permission denied    if I do     cd apache2
[12:03] <EriC^^> knob: the permissions should be Access: (0750/drwxr-x---)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    4/     adm)
[12:04] <EriC^^> do stat /var/log/apache2 to check
[12:04] <EriC^^> if you aren't in the adm group you can't access them
[12:04] <knob> EriC^^, I got there by doing an interactive shell with    sudo -i
[12:04] <knob> Going to check now with   do stat /var/log/apache2
[12:05] <pngl> EriC^^: I have something strange. There are 4 partitions. LIST PARTITION shows them. SELECT Partition 3 (Ubuntu), then FORMAT says "Please select a volume". But LIST VOLUME shows 3 corresponding to each partition except the Ubuntu one. Or at least the sizes match.
[12:05] <knob> EriC^^, I ran the command, and it came back as you posted.   (0750/drwxr-x---)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    4/     adm)
[12:05] <EriC^^> ok , type id
[12:06] <knob> Ok... my user does not match that
[12:06] <knob> I am using user with uid=1000
[12:06] <EriC^^> what about group adm?
[12:07] <knob> Let me check...
[12:07] <foldart> knob: 'cd' is a shell builtin, which won't work with sudo.  sudo works with executables.
[12:07] <EriC^^> pngl: if you list volumes it doesn't see the ubuntu one?
[12:07] <knob> foldart, ok ok thanks
[12:08] <EriC^^> pngl: 1 sec
[12:08] <pngl> EriC^^: nop
[12:08] <EriC^^> pngl: you don't have to select the volume to format
[12:08] <EriC^^> select the partition
[12:09] <EriC^^> then run format fs=ntfs label=<label here> quick
[12:09] <EriC^^> maybe it's asking for the label
[12:10] <pngl> it says I need to select volume
[12:11] <pngl> EriC^^: I think only volumes have labels. The Ubuntu partition does not show up in volumes, so I don't think it has a label?
[12:13] <EriC^^> pngl: it might be that diskpart can only format over ntfs ?
[12:13] <EriC^^> try to delete the partition
[12:13] <EriC^^> and then create it again
[12:14] <cadefy> hey
[12:14] <cadefy> how do I log in as root, while in putty?
[12:14] <ikonia> you don't
[12:15] <rockwood> i am unable make symlink
[12:15] <ikonia> use sudo to execute a command
[12:15] <cadefy> ikonia: airmon-ng?
[12:15] <ikonia> cadefy: pardon ?
[12:15] <pngl> EriC^^: create partition primary ?
[12:15] <rockwood> root@cyberia:~# cp ~s /usr/share/php5/php.ini /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[12:15] <rockwood> help me guyz
[12:15] <EriC^^> rockwood: thats -s not ~s
[12:16] <ObrienDave> airmon-ng is a wi-fi cracker. iirc
[12:16] <EriC^^> yeah it sets the wlan to promiscuous , monitor mode
[12:17] <foldart> rockwood: 'ln -s' makes a symlink (not 'cp -s')
[12:17] <EriC^^> pngl: yeah
[12:17] <ObrienDave> yea, aircrack-ng
[12:17] <apeeyush_> hey EiriksUbuntu ... It's working great! :D Some of the packages got uninstalled due to some error but at least my ubuntu is working again (which wasn't the case before the update ;) )
[12:17] <EriC^^> foldart: cp -s will copy a symlink there
[12:18] <foldart> EriC^^: Ah ok
[12:18] <pngl> EriC^^: ok done, it's formatted. There is no drive letter assign, should I assign one?
[12:19] <EriC^^> pngl: yeah
[12:19] <rockwood> foldart: root@cyberia:~# ln  ~s /usr/share/php5/php.ini /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ln: target ‘/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini’ is not a directory
[12:19] <ikonia> rockwood: not ~s
[12:19] <ikonia> rockwood: ln -s
[12:19] <rockwood> ohh okay
[12:20] <k1l> rockwood: its not "~" its "-"
[12:20] <EiriksUbuntu> apeeyush_ see, that is great, I am looking into contributing to the community, this OS has been making leaps and bounds over the past 20 years or so since I first got to play around on Linux!
[12:20] <k1l> no "snake" just a "minus"
[12:20] <pngl> EriC^^: ok done
[12:20] <rockwood> ikonia:  k1l    still the error --> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini’: File exists
[12:20] <EriC^^> pngl: now mount your recovery partition
[12:20] <ikonia> rockwood: remove the target
[12:21] <ikonia> rockwood: or replace with ln -sf
[12:21] <rockwood> one path is traget ?
[12:21] <apeeyush_> EiriksUbuntu, that's true :) good luck and thanks..
[12:21] <ikonia> rockwood: you're trying to replace a file with a link
[12:21] <ikonia> rockwood: either remove the file you're trying to replace or use ln -fs
[12:22] <EiriksUbuntu> apeeyush_ your welcome, it's just good to hear another success :)
[12:22] <rockwood> like this ikonia --> root@cyberia:~# ln -fs /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[12:22] <ikonia> rockwood: no
[12:22] <ikonia> rockwood: there is no target there - it's just a file
[12:24] <rockwood> ikonia:  really i dont know much about that type link
[12:24] <ikonia> rockwood: what are you trying to do ?
[12:24] <pngl> EriC^^: eh... "assign mount=Y:" : "DiskPart cannot assign a mount point to an OEM, ESP or recovery partition.". It has letter D, but cd D: does nothing
[12:25] <EriC^^> pngl:
[12:25] <EriC^^> just select it, and type assign letter=..
[12:26] <pngl> EriC^^: yep, it has letter D
[12:26] <rockwood> ikonia: i  am following     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP      this part -->  create a symlink to your desired settings:
[12:26] <EriC^^> pngl: so it's assigned?
[12:26] <ikonia> rockwood: tell me exactly what you are trying to do - not post a lilnk please.
[12:26] <pngl> EriC^^: yes
[12:27] <EriC^^> ok so you can view the files?
[12:27] <EriC^^> cd D: then dir
[12:27] <EriC^^> pngl:  they might be hidden
[12:28] <pngl> EriC^^: cd D: print D:\, then a new prompt with the old pwd (X:\windows\system32)
[12:28] <pngl> EriC^^: I mean the comomand "cd D:" prints "D:\"
[12:28] <EriC^^> dir /a or something
[12:29] <pngl> So I can't cd into D: i think
[12:30] <EriC^^> pngl: ok, try to unassign it if possible
[12:30] <EriC^^> and use the assign letter=
[12:30] <EriC^^> and not the assign mount=..
[12:30] <kudakwashe> is there a password generator program for ubuntu?
[12:31] <pngl> EriC^^: I didn't find how to unassign, but I reassigned to F:. I still cannot cd into it.
[12:32] <pngl> (using assign letter=F)
[12:32] <Guest17852> pngl: if it's windows you just have to do F:
[12:32] <Guest17852> without cd :v
[12:32] <EriC^^> ah
[12:32] <EriC^^> ^^
[12:32] <pngl> Guest17852: thanks, it worked
[12:32] <pngl> EriC^^: I see the files
[12:32] <EriC^^> :)
[12:32] <EriC^^> great
[12:33] <EriC^^> now cd to the dir with the install.wim
[12:33] <pngl> EriC^^: ok
[12:33] <EriC^^> now we need to check the indexes
[12:34] <EriC^^> try this Dism /Get-ImageInfo /ImageFile:F:\path\to\install.wim /Index:1
[12:34] <EriC^^> do that for index 2 3 and 4
[12:35] <EriC^^> in mine, index 4 was the largest, and i used that
[12:35] <pngl> EriC^^: what are indexes?
[12:35] <kudakwashe> should i be using .bashrc or .profile?
[12:35] <kudakwashe> in ubuntu?
[12:36] <kudakwashe> what is the difference?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> kudakwashe, for?
[12:36] <EriC^^> the image file has indexes, like index1 could be a recovery with less features
[12:36] <kudakwashe> BluesKaj: for this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-random-password-generator/
[12:36] <pngl> EriC^^: I believe I only have 1 index, I get an error if Index:N with N>1
[12:37] <EriC^^> ok
[12:37] <EriC^^> where is this file located?
[12:37] <EriC^^> in my recovery it was in \preload  i think
[12:37] <kudakwashe> BluesKaj: but what is the difference between .bashrc and .profile ( don't they do the same thing)
[12:38] <BluesKaj> kudakwashe, well the tutorial says to use ~/.bashrc
[12:38] <pngl> EriC^^: I don't see that directory
[12:38] <kudakwashe> BluesKaj: Yeah, but would it work in .profile as well?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> kudakwashe, no idea
[12:39] <Lysian> hi, since when are firefox bookmarkbackup files binary? When manually making a backup file it's still a text file .json.
[12:39] <kudakwashe> BluesKaj: couldn't the contents of .bashrc and .profile all be in the same file? why is it neccesary to have two files?
[12:40] <EriC^^> pngl: ok,
[12:41] <kudakwashe> BluesKaj: anyway, i'm using it and it works and it's a great way to generate strong passwords
[12:41] <EriC^^> Dism /apply-image /imagefile:F:\path\to\install.wim /index:1 /ApplyDir:<partition>:\
[12:41] <EriC^^> replace partition with the windows partition
[12:41] <BluesKaj> kudakwashe, sorry, I'm not familiar with .profile usage and i just use ~/.bashrc for alias commands for the terminal
[12:41] <EriC^^> pngl: if you want to try a bigger index first, you can
[12:42] <EriC^^> it should have more than 1 index, but i guess it doesnt
[12:42] <kudakwashe> thanks i'm outski
[12:43] <pngl> EriC^^: ok it's working
[12:43] <EriC^^> ok, might be a while
[12:43] <pngl> EriC^^: It should take a couple of minutes
[12:43] <jorge> how do I found out what my domain name is?
[12:44] <oleole> Hey. I have some problems with a 3G USB modem on my 12.04 installation. Ubuntu recognizes it, and connects to the cellular network, it gets an IP address, but I have no connection to the outside (e.g. I cannot ping; “destination host unreachable”). It looks like the gateway isn’t set up correctly or something. But everything is just plugged&played through network manager. I have another modem that I know works with Ubuntu, and 
[12:44] <oleole> put the sim card into that, and that works just fine (with the same configuration profile). So it’s something about this modem that doesn’t work correctly
[12:44] <dragon2621> hi, can someone help me with run ubuntu server on ibm x226?
[12:44] <oleole> But it’s just weird, because Ubuntu says it’s connected, and even shows connection strength
[12:45] <oleole> Any ideas on how to get it working?
[12:48] <jorge> is device name same as domain name?
[12:48] <pngl> EriC^^: ok, it's done
[12:49] <EriC^^> ok assign a letter to the efi partition
[12:50] <Radon_3> sorry for the disconnection people, my connection was interrupted. did anyone make a suggesstion for me?
[12:51] <oleole> One thing I’ve noticed: The working modem has a ppp0 connection in ifconfig. The modem that DOESN’T work have a usb0 connection. I’ve also tried another modem that works, and that’s also ppp0
[12:51] <oleole> So it looks like something’s wrong in the config?
[12:52] <pngl> EriC^^: done
[12:52] <pngl> (G)
[12:52] <EriC^^> ok
[12:52] <EriC^^> type bcdrec /fixmbr
[12:52] <EriC^^> sorry bootrec /fixmbr
[12:54] <pngl> EriC^^: "operation completed successfully"
[12:54] <EriC^^> ok, bootrec /fixboot
[12:55] <pngl> EriC^^: success
[12:56] <EriC^^> ok
[12:56] <EriC^^> bcdboot <windows partition>:\Windows /s G: /f ALL
[12:57] <Radon_3> am I invisible in this channel? Can anyone see this?
[12:57] <mattxtn> You're not invisible Radon_3
[12:57] <DJones> Radon_3: We can see you
[12:57] <Radon_3> alright
[12:57] <Radon_3> thanks
[12:57] <pngl> EriC^^: ok, done
[12:57] <Radon_3> so any ideas on my problem?
[12:58] <Ben64> Radon_3: not seeing a question from you
[12:58] <EriC^^> pngl: ok, reboot
[12:58] <Ben64> pngl: doesn't seem like you're asking about ubuntu at all... are you in the correct channel
[12:58] <jorge> trim!
[12:58] <jorge> trim my jim
[12:59] <Radon_3> sorry, i think you should blame my internet. I want to move some files from my pc to my laptop, now i can use a flash usb stick, but the files are way too huge, and it would take me for ever to move 500GB of files. So I want to be able to share the whole drive in my pc with my laptop, just using a crossover cable.
[13:00] <Radon_3> How can i do this in ubuntu?
[13:00] <Radon_3> both my pc and laptop are using ubuntu 14
[13:00] <pngl> EriC^^: damn you know your stuff
[13:00] <hateball> Radon_3: ssh is a simple way
[13:00] <Igurd> Radon_3: setup ssh on both and scp it
[13:00] <hateball> !ssh | Radon_3
[13:00] <Ben64> pngl, EriC^^: in the future please don't use this channel for non-ubuntu support
[13:00] <Igurd> or even rsync :v
[13:01] <pngl> EriC^^: I have to go, but thanks a lot.
[13:01] <EriC^^> no problem
[13:01] <pngl> Ben64: it started off as a GRUB question but EriC^^ and another person noted that it would be quicker to resolve by going through windows
[13:01] <Ben64> Radon_3: does it need to be a crossover cable? would be easier to just have them both plugged into a hub/switch/router
[13:01] <Radon_3> thank you so much folks. But how can i make the two pcs talk?
[13:02] <Radon_3> Ben64: I don't have any hubs or routers, yes it wouldbe easier.
[13:02] <Radon_3> :(
[13:02] <Ben64> pngl: seemed like your main issue was getting the windows recovery to boot, which isn't really an ubuntu issue, but whatever
[13:02] <Igurd> you have to setup static IPs in the same subnet on both :v
[13:03] <Ben64> Radon_3: then if you have a crossover cable, go for it. set the ips to what Igurd said
[13:03] <Radon_3> awesome,so it is just like windows then.
[13:03] <Ben64> better :P
[13:03] <Radon_3> yes.
[13:03] <Ben64> rsync is fantastic, i recommend it highly
[13:04] <Radon_3> and I guess i need to setup an ssh server on my source pc, and an ssh client on my laptop, is that right?
[13:04] <Ben64> yeah rsync over ssh is probably easiest/best
[13:05] <Radon_3> isn't there probably a way to do this without ssh?
[13:05] <Ben64> many ways
[13:05] <Igurd> Radon_3: it is possible to do it either way with scp, but rsync likes to have server on the destination :v
[13:05] <jackbrown> does anyone knows a fast way to convert a PDF file to a PDF/A format ? ^^^^^^^^^
[13:05] <Radon_3> Ben64: can you please give me the next easiest way?
[13:06] <Igurd> Radon_3: this is the easiest way :v
[13:06] <Ben64> i just like rsync because you can resume transfers, do partial transfers, use compression, etc
[13:06] <Ben64> Radon_3: the next easiest way is much less easy
[13:06] <Radon_3> Ben64: preferably one without needing to setup a server on any machine and
[13:06] <Radon_3> Ben64: preferably one without needing to setup a server on any machine.
[13:06] <Igurd> Radon_3: another one would be setting netcat to listen on the destination, and piping to it from the source with netcat and tar
[13:06] <kris_> hello my sound doesent work at all, i have tried link every method that is by googling that the sound doesent work etc, im on xubuntu 14.04 btw, what can i do?? the music seem to show that it plays inside sound settings while theres not coming sounds from speakers on my laptop at all
[13:06] <Ben64> ssh servers are handy though
[13:07] <Igurd> Radon_3: there isn't much to setup
[13:07] <Igurd> as in, you just start the service
[13:07] <Igurd> and it works :v
[13:08] <Radon_3> Ben64: can you please tell me about it?
[13:08] <Radon_3> Ben64: i mean that easiest way
[13:09] <Guest-66679> ah
[13:10] <thc2cat> Hi anyone. Can someone help me with a NFS issue ( Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS) ?
[13:10] <thc2cat> ,usrquota, is not understood by mount ( mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified error )
[13:11] <thc> Ok question I got Ubuntu desktop 14.04 installed  after login it freezes graphics card is ati radon 3000 hd?
[13:11] <thc> How do I fix it
[13:12] <thc2cat> i would try another driver, maybe a more generic one
[13:12] <thc> How
[13:12] <Radon_3> thank you so very much for the info folks. bless you all.  ill see what would do it
[13:13] <cfhowlett> !ati
[13:13] <kris_> hello my sound doesent work at all, i have tried link every method that is by googling that the sound doesent work etc, im on xubuntu 14.04 btw, what can i do?? the music seem to show that it plays inside sound settings while theres not coming sounds from speakers on my laptop at all
[13:14] <fellayaboy> hey i have a problem here with ubuntu 14.04, im using vmware workstation.  and after a while my guest operating system's network connection seems to drop... i know it has to do with ubuntu going to sleep in a way... im 99% sure... how can i get ubuntu to never never never go to sleep or turn blank at all...everything at maximum force as if im working on it?>
[13:15] <Igurd> Radon_3: you could do something like this http://ay.gw.lt/upload/73107361497335eb04186f1d146098b1cce5dac0a144ea9e4077916a.png :v
[13:15] <EriC^^> fellayaboy: settings > power
[13:15] <Igurd> just either redirect it to the disk or pipe it to tar, to untar it while it's sending
[13:15] <fellayaboy> EriC^^:  i did that already
[13:16] <EriC^^> so did you set it to never sleep?
[13:16] <fellayaboy> the only option i see is suspend when inactive for: dont suspend
[13:17] <EriC^^> ok, so that's that
[13:17] <fellayaboy> EriC^^:  i chose dont suspend but still,  why is it that the connection on my vmware goes doo doo brainy on me
[13:17] <silverfix> hello
[13:17] <yogg> Hi on my unutu 12.04 I would like to disable apparmor. I have done the following: "service apparmor stop && service apparmor teardown && update-rc.d -f apparmor remove && reboot". But after the reboot "service apparmot status" shows me that apparmor is running.
[13:17] <Radon_3> Igurd: thanks man
[13:18] <yogg> I have not found a starting script in /etc/init for apparmor
[13:18] <silverfix> I'm using lvm encrypted FS, is there a way to not ask passwd at boottime ?
[13:18] <fellayaboy> but when im on the machine. using it.,..ill never get a warning on my guest os that my connection failed....i know it has to do with ubuntu doing other thigns in the background...seems that the network goes to sleep or something i dont understand it
[13:18] <Igurd> Radon_3: if you don't have netcat, you can do this http://hacktux.com/bash/socket :v
[13:19] <Radon_3> Igurd: I think using samba
[13:19] <Radon_3> is easier a bit
[13:19] <EriC^^> fellayaboy: you could look into the power saving of the wifi maybe
[13:20] <fellayaboy> i use ethernet cable
[13:20] <fellayaboy> and how would i see that
[13:21] <Igurd> Radon_3: in my experience setting up samba is harder than ssh
[13:25] <Radon_3> Igurd: yeap.you are absolutely right, it is way harder
[13:28] <kudakwashe> how can i change the passphrase to unock he disk in ubuntu?
[13:29] <kudakwashe> how can i change the passphrase to unlock he disk in ubuntu?
[13:29] <kudakwashe> you know the screen.... Unlocking the disk /dev* (sda5_crypt) Enter passphrase:
[13:31] <whoever> hi all, is there a way to supply a password in the command string for ssh : i have tied user:pass@host , and i am still asked for a password
[13:34] <RoBo_V> Guys I Have ssh'd irssi on ubuntu, but no terminal sound when messgae comes in
[13:35] <kudakwashe> whoever: don't put the password in the command string
[13:35] <kudakwashe> whoever: manually enter the passphrase, and also use a key
[13:38] <kris_> hello my sound doesent work at all, i have tried link every method that is by googling that the sound doesent work etc, im on xubuntu 14.04 btw, what can i do?? the music seem to show that it plays inside sound settings while theres not coming sounds from speakers on my laptop at all
[13:38] <mattxtn> Just rm'ed my entire /Music dir.. Any way to recover that?
[13:39] <EiriksUbuntu> mattxtn
[13:40] <EiriksUbuntu> ^^ did you ask?
[13:40] <mattxtn> Yeah
[13:40] <EiriksUbuntu> I know it can be done, but I don't know how
[13:40] <mattxtn> I'm just going to restore it from backup.
[13:41] <EiriksUbuntu> that works, but i would still like to know how to do it without backup
[13:42] <LegalGadFly> test
[13:42] <EiriksUbuntu> reply
[13:44] <TimeVirus> hello
[13:46] <plex> Hi everyone. I installed 2 new 4tb HDD in my tower today for media storage. They are both ext4 and have them mounted through fstab. Any idea why I would be struggling to get 7mb/s transfering between them over sata?
[13:46] <Lysian> hi, since when are firefox bookmarkbackup files binary? When manually making a backup file it's still a text file .json.
[13:47] <veedu> #mozilla
[13:50] <kudakwashe> greetings, i need to change my passphrase to unlock my disk when ubuntu boots
[13:51] <kudakwashe> i do know the old passphrase (obviously) but need to change it
[13:52] <kris_> hello my sound doesent work at all, i have tried link every method that is by googling that the sound doesent work etc, im on xubuntu 14.04 btw, what can i do?? the music seem to show that it plays inside sound settings while theres not coming sounds from speakers on my laptop at all
[13:53] <btm05> it's related to tmux, I just noticed.
[13:56] <levo> is there any software for keeping contacts and exporting importing them . . .?
[14:01] <bongo12345> hi, i keep getting "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" ,what can i do ?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> bongo12345, run this,  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:05] <bongo12345> BluesKaj, thanks
[14:05] <geirha> no! never use fuser -k without providing a sane signal, like -SIGTERM
[14:05] <geirha> it defaults to SIGKILL, which you really don't want to use
[14:05] <EiriksUbuntu> BluesKaj how do you learn that?
[14:05] <baako> i ran sudo php5enmod mcrypt on 14.04 and got warning module mcrypt ini file doesn't exist under /etc/php5/mods-available
[14:06] <baako> Where is it?
[14:06] <baako> .
[14:06] <BluesKaj> geirha, been using that command for many yrs, ppl always correct me, but i've never seen it do any damage
[14:06] <kudakwashe> greetings, i need to change my passphrase to unlock my disk when ubuntu boots
[14:06] <kudakwashe> how can i do that?
[14:06] <geirha> BluesKaj: http://stackoverflow.com/a/690631/347411
[14:07] <Igurd> kudakwashe: probably with cryptsetup
[14:08] <BluesKaj> EiriksUbuntu, from a tutyorial a long time ago ...I keep important commands in a text file for reference
[14:08] <kudakwashe> Igurd: I can see it here http://imgur.com/wkgKjOa but cannot find how how to get the window to change the password
[14:08] <kudakwashe> passphrase
[14:08] <kudakwashe> i mean
[14:10] <EiriksUbuntu> BluesKaj I have always wanted to get into programming, so yeah, I'm jelly
[14:10] <jak2000> hi all, how to share files with apache? the documentroot of my server is: /var/www/html/mysite  (www.mysite.com) the files that i need share are on: /home/user/files  thanks
[14:10] <BluesKaj> !Aptfix | geirha
[14:10] <Enno1> Can naybody help me get my external display work with ubuntu? I just started mucking around in xorg.conf and remembering how much I hated that, because I haven't a clue what I am doing
[14:11] <BluesKaj> EiriksUbuntu, I'm not a programmer , just a user with some experience in linux
[14:11] <geirha> BluesKaj: Yes, should be fixed. I've tried suggesting fixes for ubottu factoids before (not that one in particular though), but they've just been silently ignored, so I can't be bothered.
[14:11] <chrisss123456> hey guys, little problem: rhythmbox doesnt want to import music. im trying to move from my mac itunes to rhythmbox, and copying the music folder, but when i try to import, nothing happens.. why?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> geirha, well if it's still on the books and works , who's to argue :)
[14:13] <Enno1> Problem: I have a new lenovo x1 carbon laptop (intel hd graphics) and when I boot from the lubuntu live image, my external display only shows resolutions up to 1080p (i.e. it does not give me the native 2160p resolution as an option). Windows 8, whcih came pre-installed, does this okay.
[14:13] <Krisg> hi how can i install Ubuntu on the usb and able to boot on it. Not as an USB Ubuntu installer but an installed OS ?
[14:13] <ikonia> geirha: I've not seen a factoid request from you about kill
[14:13] <ikonia> geirha: if you'd like to submit it, it can be reviewed
[14:14] <geirha> ikonia: as I said, not about that one
[14:14] <ikonia> geirha: yes, and if you'd like to submit one it will get reviewed
[14:14] <Enno1> Krisg: do you want a live system on a USB stick?
[14:15] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg you can do that from Ubuntu to the stick
[14:16] <EriC^^> Krisg: just install it on the usb as you usually install, and install grub there
[14:17] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg make sure grub is on any drive you want to boot as linux
[14:18] <geirha> BluesKaj: It sets a bad precedent. Maybe dpkg avoids problems with potential corrupton of its data, but other programs might not deal with it that well
[14:18] <amae> hi everybody
[14:19] <Krisg> Yes Enno1, i like it to be like a portable OS on a USB
[14:19] <Enno1> krisg: find a live image, install it on a USB stick.
[14:20] <Krisg> EriC^^: would it not overrite any MBR thingy on my existing OSes on my harddrive?
[14:20] <Enno1> KrisG: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[14:20] <EriC^^> doesn't have to be a live image, he wants a standalone ubuntu installation on a usb
[14:20] <Krisg> thanks gonna search that out ^^
[14:20] <BluesKaj> geirha, like I said I've never had problems with it, and it's quite selective being a dpkg command meant to terminate or kill a package manger that's still open or frozen
[14:20] <Krisg> thanks for the link Enno1
[14:20] <Enno1> a live image is going to be the fastest way to get that to happen, though. and best-documented
[14:21] <Krisg> Enno1 isnt that the one everytime i restart all the changes will be gone?
[14:21] <Enno1> you might say it's the canonical way.
[14:21] <EriC^^> Krisg: please clarify, is it that you want ubuntu on a usb as a standalone installation ? or you want a liveusb which gives you a try or install ubuntu ?
[14:21] <moritzkoeln> join
[14:21] <Enno1> oh, that. yeah, if you want that, you want something else :-)
[14:22] <Enno1> never mind me.
[14:22] <Enno1> I *was* only here to get help with my monitor, not to give advice :-)
[14:22] <Enno1> it's not my day.
[14:23] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg I have a Live USB and USB HDD, I can run them both without the optional install, if you install a live usb from Ubuntu it don't give you the extra install menus as the first load
[14:23] <luist> whats the size of 12.04 repos?
[14:24] <Enno1> Not using mode "3840x2160" *exceeds panel dimensions) ??
[14:24] <geirha> BluesKaj: that doesn't mean people won't try it on other files, thinking it is safe since it was used like that for dpkg's lock file
[14:24] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg they give you the option to choose when you run Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu
[14:25] <Krisg> EriC^^: a standalone and portal OS on a USB
[14:25] <Krisg> EriC^^: portable*
[14:26] <EiriksUbuntu> yepI have a 500gb hdd that I can plug into anything and reboot to my OS
[14:26] <EriC^^> Krisg: do you have 2 usb's ?
[14:26] <EriC^^> one only has to be ~1g
[14:26] <BluesKaj> geirha, well I certainly wouldn't suggest using it on anything other than a locked up package manager and never have.
[14:26] <amae> help please, i want to install ubuntu 14.04 alongside windows 7 with image recovery and i already partition a 20 gb in my hard drive, is that ok to install ubuntu 14.04 in hard drive with dell image recovery? anyone please...
[14:27] <EiriksUbuntu> You can also install into a SDHC card if you have a reader
[14:28] <chrisss123456> oh no.
[14:28] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, i already have flash drive i want to install it alongside with win7
[14:28] <chrisss123456> guys i need some major help
[14:28] <chrisss123456> im trying to get rhythmbox to play mp3s
[14:28] <chrisss123456> and it said i needed a gstreamer ugly plugin
[14:28] <chrisss123456> so i did sudo apt get etc
[14:28] <chrisss123456> and it has removed vlc, audacity, ubuntu desktop and software center...
[14:29] <chrisss123456> :(
[14:29] <EiriksUbuntu> amae you will be given the option when you boot the usb and use the install option
[14:29] <chrisss123456> for the love of god someone please tell me what the hell just happened
[14:30] <EiriksUbuntu> chrisss123456 it's going to be ok, take a breathe
[14:30] <EiriksUbuntu> lol breather
[14:30] <geirha> ikonia: there's no feedback when it gets rejected, so it feels like a waste of time.
[14:30] <chrisss123456> EiriksUbuntu: ok...
[14:30] <chrisss123456> but what just happened? why would it remove?
[14:30] <chrisss123456> i can reinstall everything, but i just dont get it
[14:31] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, is that ok with my dell image recovery? co'z i don't want to loss my dell image recovery in hard drive
[14:31] <Krisg> Eric^^: yes, i have 2 USB
[14:31] <ikonia> geirha: ok, don't do it
[14:31] <EiriksUbuntu> amae it won't hurt it, it will be fine
[14:31] <EiriksUbuntu> you can chose to install along side your other OS
[14:32] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, ok thanks
[14:32] <EiriksUbuntu> amae np :)
[14:32] <EriC^^> Krisg: make a liveusb out of one, boot it, in the installation select something else, then partition your second usb as you see fit, and install ubuntu there, (make sure the bottom selection says install bootloader on /dev/sdX where X is your second usb)
[14:33] <ralpheeee> sorry very new ubuntu /xubuntu...can i ask a question here?
[14:33] <chrisss123456> EiriksUbuntu: im reinstalling everything now, but i dont really like what happened. do you know what happened?
[14:33] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg yeah EriC^^
[14:33] <EriC^^> chrisss123456: i'm sure you can see logs and find out
[14:34] <chrisss123456> EriC^^: yea, it said: The following packages will be REMOVED, and i was stupid enough to press enter, but i dont get why that would be necessary...
[14:34] <EiriksUbuntu> I understand that you apt-get etc and it auto removed the other packages, those packages might have been seen as obsolete i'm not sure
[14:34] <Krisg> EriC^^: would it not replace any MBR thingy the currency system im using?
[14:34] <EriC^^> chrisss123456: what package were you trying to install ?
[14:34] <Krisg> EriC^^: current*
[14:35] <ralpheeee> in xubuntu i installed nemo as my default file manger...when i insert a ext hard drive nemo does not open up automatically...can anyone help pls?
[14:35] <chrisss123456> EriC^^: i was trying to install gstreamer - ugly (or something like that) to play mp3s on rhythmbox
[14:35] <MrCoder> Since upgrading to Unbuntu 14 from 12 LTS lightdm seems to keep hanging and I have to restart it. Anybody else getting this?
[14:35] <chrisss123456> i tried through rhythmbox but it kept failing.
[14:36] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg your going to boot the usb, try ubuntu, use startup disk creator to install Ubuntu onto the second usb as if it were a hard drive
[14:37] <EriC^^> Krisg: no, the bootloader option says where to install grub
[14:37] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg this will not affect the computer at all
[14:37] <EriC^^> EiriksUbuntu: no, he's not!
[14:37] <EriC^^> cut - it - out
[14:38] <EiriksUbuntu> what are you talking about? I am running it exactly what he wants right now
[14:38] <EriC^^> EiriksUbuntu: you're suggesting he uses a live usb to create a startup disk on another usb?
[14:38] <EriC^^> if you are asking what im talking about
[14:39] <EiriksUbuntu> EXACTLY
[14:39] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[14:39] <EiriksUbuntu> This option leaves no trace in the computer, which is what he wants
[14:40] <EriC^^> EiriksUbuntu: this option creates another live usb
[14:40] <EriC^^> you're effectively asking him to create a live usb, then use that to create another live usb
[14:41] <EiriksUbuntu> yes, one he can do anything with, and another he can boot on any computer anywhere and have his own OS
[14:41] <EriC^^> then why create it from the live usb then?
[14:42] <Krisg> EriC^^: Is it ok to use a DVD instead of an USB for the installer? To install to the other USB?
[14:42] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg Yes
[14:42] <EriC^^> Krisg: yes
[14:42] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[14:43] <Krisg> Tyvm :)
[14:44] <EriC^^> np :)
[14:46] <EiriksUbuntu> Krisg just make sure you install onto the USB as if the USB is your hard drive, some computers you boot it with may require you to download additional drivers to work better
[14:52] <Krisg> EiriksUbuntu: thanks ill keep that in mind :)
[14:52] <EiriksUbuntu> np :D
[14:59] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, how to make shrtcut icon in ubuntu 14.04 , b'coz the msg appear error?
[15:02] <EiriksUbuntu> amae um can you get into the option for Try Ubuntu?
[15:03] <EiriksUbuntu> amae I don't understand, please give me more information
[15:04] <amae> EiriksUbuntu, i mean how to put shortcut icon like terminal in desktop display
[15:05] <luist> whats the size of 12.04 repos if i want to make a local mirror?
[15:05] <EiriksUbuntu> amae if you start the application you can right click it on the launcher and pin it
[15:07] <sarir> amea: you can always manually create a desktop file ( don't know if there is an automated way) (if you want it on the desktop itself, in most cases pinning the application is a better variant)
[15:07] <geirha> !mirrors | luist
[15:08] <Slartibartfast13> When I ran the Xubuntu live CD, it did not mount my hard drives automatically, but when I run Kubuntu, it looks like it did mount my hard drives. Is Kubuntu supposed to do that automatically when running the live test CD?
[15:08] <Abhinav1> !torrents
[15:09] <TurkerTunali1> Hi guys,  I've created a user when installing ubuntu server 14.04 (namely:ubuntu) . I want to ask you that does this user has root privileges? Because I have some strange behaviours. I have a script which installs Postgresql 9.3 along with our ERP and it works greate on AWS but my local machines can't connect Postgresql.
[15:09] <amae> ok guys... thanks
[15:10] <geirha> Slartibartfast13: The Ubuntu live CD (at least) mounts swap automatically if it finds some. Other filesystems will only be mounted on demand (e.g. by clicking on them in the file browser)
[15:11] <Abhinav1> TurkerTunali1: that have sudo permission
[15:11] <SchrodingersScat> TurkerTunali1: I would think the user would have sudo privileges
[15:13] <TurkerTunali1> I didn't get it!!!
[15:13] <EriC^^> amae: type nautilus /usr/share/applications , then right click the application you want > copy to > desktop
[15:14] <Abhinav1> TurkerTunali1: you ca elevate your user's permission using sudo
[15:14] <EriC^^> TurkerTunali1: what do you mean?
[15:14] <amae> EriC^^, ok i try
[15:14] <EriC^^> TurkerTunali1: type id in the terminal
[15:14] <Abhinav1> but the user doesn't have root priv
[15:15] <Mandor> I'm having a kickstart/kickseed issue.  Looks to me like a bug, so I've submitted a bug report.  But maybe I'm missing something?  Report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kickseed/+bug/1367601
[15:16] <amae> EriC^^, thanks eric :)
[15:17] <EriC^^> np :)
[15:17] <sennn_> 1FV9sivy3kLD3GViDdxLmabKnaee23fNko
[15:19] <TurkerTunali1> EriC: it gave this: uid=1000(ubuntu) gid=1000(ubuntu) groups=1000(ubuntu), 4(adm), 24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),110(lpadmin),111(sambashare)
[15:22] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[15:23] <sri_> does anyone know netlimiter like software in ubuntu
[15:32] <Abhinav1> sri_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83352/good-alternative-to-netlimiter
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav1: what is the output of:  groups
[15:34] <olive_> hello
[15:35] <geirha> ActionParsnip: I think you mean TurkerTunali1, and sie just showed the output of id(1)
[15:35] <Abhinav1> ActionParsnip:  groups - print the groups a user is in
[15:35] <Abhinav1> olive_: Hello
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ah, sorry
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> TurkerTunali1: then you are in the sudo group, so can use sudo when you need admin access
[15:38] <geirha> TurkerTunali1: postgresql can be configured to give certain users/groups access to this and that database without requiring a password. Maybe the difference is there.
[15:40] <WeiJunLi> When I used vmware in windwos it kinda lags a bit, what is the best vmware workstation or vmware player for an  Ubuntu machine, I pretend to install windows in the vmware.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: why not use virtualbox?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: neither vmware player or workstaion is "best" or vmware would only make one, as nobody would use theother. Both solutions exist as they have different strengths.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: think about it.....
[15:42] <WeiJunLi> what is the difference between using vmware and virtualbox?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: virtualbox is opensource and installable from the official ubuntu repos, so will automatically be updated as the packages are updated, just like the rest of your OS
[15:43] <WeiJunLi> ActionParsnip: apt-get install virtualbox ?
[15:44] <griffin> have a game, wolf ET: it runs perfectly in ubuntu 14.04, but there is no sound, while all other programs and games have... any tips for a noob?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: prefixed with sudo, yes
[15:44] <amae> after i install ubuntu 14.04 what things to do?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> amae: run updates
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> griffin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[15:45] <ganja> 日你嘴
[15:45] <amae> ActionParsnip, how?
[15:45] <luist> geirha: i dont have 600+GB for the whole archive, can i sync only the 12.04 repo?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> amae: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:45] <Abhinav1> amae: http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[15:46] <griffin> @actionparsnip: i have done this, but they ask to make a script, don't know how
[15:46] <amae> ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> griffin: do the commands make it work ok?
[15:46] <geirha> luist: Probably, but not sure. #ubuntu-mirrors might know more
[15:47] <innocent95> Hi
[15:47] <griffin> no, it did not
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> griffin: which did you try?
[15:47] <innocent95> I have a problem, my xubuntu is no longer shows update messages, i guess there is a problem
[15:48] <griffin> method 1
[15:48] <k1l> innocent95: what does "lsb_release -d" give you?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> griffin: tried the rest?
[15:48] <griffin> since i don't know how to look into my terminal to see for errors, i did not try 2
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> griffin: then you should
[15:49] <griffin> how can i see in my terminal for error?
[15:49] <innocent95> k1l, Gives me Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[15:49] <griffin> because it is asking to look for a certain error
[15:49] <amae> ActionParsnip, do i need anti-virus for this
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: use http://pastie.org   and give the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !av | amae
[15:50] <levo> does someone know a quick app for making vCard contacts?
[15:50] <amae> ubottu, ok thanks
[15:51] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, everything looks fine, http://pastie.org/9542474
[15:51] <innocent95> amae, Ubottu is a bot :P
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: ok, run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano       isit ok?
[15:52] <amae> innocent95, what?! :)
[15:52] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, rewrite that properly, write the commands between quotes
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !bot | amae
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: I already put it between a tonne of spaces, it's obviously not clear enough                        "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano"
[15:53] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, nano the editor?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: yes, the command reinstalls teh text editor, is it successful?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> *the
[15:54] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, nano has been successfully installed
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: ok, run:    sudo apt-get upgrade     is it ok?
[15:55] <innocent95> moment
[15:55] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, boobs
[15:56] <amae> ActionParsnip,  is that really ubottu is bot? like A.I in the movie :p?
[15:56] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, a lot of stuff, need to be upgraded.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> amae: she reacts to triggers
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: ok, run updtes
[15:56] <amae> ActionParsnip, like JARVIS :p
[15:56] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, You mean, i should upgrade them?^
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> amae: I dont know what that is
[15:56] <WeiJunLi> ActionParsnip: how can I install Vista in ISO format on the virtualbox without the license key?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: yes, regular upgrades will help keep your system running ok
[15:57] <amae> ActionParsnip, Jarvis from the movie ironman hehehe..
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: you will still need a valid license to install in a virtual system
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> amae: not seen it
[15:57] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, Thank you very much, the great man.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: glad to help
[15:59] <WeiJunLi> ActionParsnip: btw do you have any link for download windows vista iso ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> WeiJunLi: no idea, try asking in ##windows
[16:03] <Miquel> #ubuntu-es
[16:04] <TeraJL> hi there, i need mysql client 5.6 how can i install it? 14.04
[16:04] <k1l> !info mysql
[16:05] <xikkub> mysql-client
[16:05] <k1l> !info mysql-client
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: could have searched in software centre and found that.....
[16:05] <TeraJL> there is mysql-client-4.6 but it starts uninstalling my KDE packages and then i can't install mysql-workbench
[16:05] <jackbrown> Anyone can help ? I'd like add an icon to the software that hasn't and the same in the context menu thanks   here is a screenshot for better understanding http://imgur.com/RGTEI5L ?????????????????????'
[16:05] <k1l> TeraJL: hmm, even 14.10 got 5.5
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> jackbrown: I belive its set in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[16:07] <TeraJL> mysql-workbench and KDE depends on the package mysql-client , so if i install mysql-client-1.6 i can't have KDE or mysql-workbench
[16:07] <amae> ActionParsnip, after i nstall ubuntu 14.04 alongside with windows 7, it boot straight to win7 why?
[16:07] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip: thanks I'll take a look
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> amae: if you hold SHIFT at boot, do you see Grub?
[16:08] <amae> ActionParsnip, wait i restart my laptop
[16:09] <ahernandez> hi
[16:09] <ahernandez> what is this
[16:09] <ahernandez> ??
[16:10] <k1l> ahernandez: this is the technical ubuntu support channel. please make sure you read the topic and read the guidelines
[16:10] <amae> ActionParsnip, nothing happen after i hold shift in boot
[16:11] <TeraJL> is there any way to install mysql-client-1.6 as mysql-client? so it does not brake my system?
[16:11] <werner_> I use Lubuntu since four months now and I am very happy with it. Goodbye Microsoft...
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> amae: then you need to boot to liveCD and put Grub on the MBR
[16:11]  * heytimc seeks help debugging a Rhythmbox hang
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> amae: I assume you did not use wubi
[16:11] <k1l> TeraJL: mysql-client 1.6?
[16:11] <TJ-> amae: Is the system UEFI firmware ?
[16:11] <TeraJL> *5.6
[16:11] <TeraJL> sorry
[16:12] <amae> ActionParsnip, i use flash drive in ubuntu
[16:12] <amae> ActionParsnip, do i have t burn it on blank dvd?
[16:12] <k1l> TeraJL: why do you need the 5.6 version?
[16:13] <k1l> TeraJL: 5.5 (with patches for security and bugfixing by ubuntu) is in the ubuntu repos.doesnt that work?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> amae: did you install Ubuntu within Windows, or did you resize your NTFS to make room for Ubuntu
[16:14] <TeraJL> k1l: because my servers uses 5.6, and mysql-workbench loses some functionalities and give some warnings because i'm using and older client that the server
[16:14] <TeraJL> *than the
[16:14] <k1l> well, than use the same PPA like the server does
[16:15] <TeraJL> k1l: the server is an amazon RDS
[16:15] <amae> ActionParsnip, no i just let ubuntu decide what to do, i just click alongside install and then ubuntu automatic resize then after install nothing happen
[16:15] <heytimc> Rhythmbox 3.0.2 on Tahr hangs most times on first run, works fine thereafter
[16:15] <TJ-> amae: >> Is the system UEFI firmware ? <<
[16:16] <amae> ActionParsnip, what is that?
[16:16] <k1l> TeraJL: then see if a PPA got the 5.6 version
[16:16] <amae> TJ-, what is that?
[16:17] <amae> TJ-, sorry im just beginner..:p
[16:18] <TJ-> amae: The system's built-in firmware, either BIOS or UEFI. If the system is UEFI and Windows is installed in UEFI mode, then you'd need to also ensure Ubuntu installer started in UEFI mode to have both operating systems in the firmware's boot menu
[16:18] <TJ-> amae: If you're not sure, tell us the make/model of the motherboard or PC itself so we can look it up
[16:19] <amae> TJ-, my laptop model is dell inspiron 1545
[16:19] <amae> TJ-, with dell image recovery
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> amae: sounds like grub didnt get put on the disk, so windows boot loader is still present
[16:20] <TeraJL> k1l: i found one but it does not work on 14.04
[16:20] <TeraJL> the only one i found
[16:22] <TJ-> amae: Getting the manual now, give me a couple of minutes to scan it
[16:22] <k1l> TeraJL: mysql-client-5.6 is in universe
[16:22] <amae> ActionParsnip, if i choose in do something else and chioce partionship what i want do you think guys is it ok without harming my win7 and dell image recovery?
[16:22] <k1l> !info mysql-client-5.6
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> amae: if the OS is installed, you can use the omgubuntu guide "sticking it to Grub" and install Grub using a chroot
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> amae: usually the installer puts Grub on the disk for you
[16:25] <amae> ActionParsnip, i think the os is not installed, my file is the same.. i try it again
[16:25] <TeraJL> k1l: there is, but when i install it breaks my system because of KDE and mysql-workbench dependencies
[16:25] <havarka> hi guys, when i try to install skype, i get this, what can i do about it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8310693/
[16:25] <k1l> TeraJL: are they from other PPAs?
[16:26] <TeraJL> k1l: no
[16:26] <amae> TJ-, ok i wait
[16:27] <TJ-> amae: OK, the 154 is a BIOS system. So, the symptoms you describe indicate that when installing Ubuntu the boot-loader was not written to the hard disk. The installer doesn't make that optional, so if you installed Ubuntu from a USB flash device, or had other storage devices connected during installation, it is more likely that the boot-loader was written to the wrong device instead.
[16:28] <TJ-> s/154/1545/
[16:28] <mbrgm> hi! when I'm logging into a remote system with ssh and the -A (ForwardAgent) option supplied and then execute `ssh-add` on the remote machine -- what exactly does happen? does it store my private key on the remote machine?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> havarka: what is the output of:    cat /etc/issue
[16:29] <TJ-> amae: You'll need to boot from the Live Desktop ISO, choose "Try Ubuntu" and repair it manually, or with the help of some scripts
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> mbrgm: why private key? surely you mean the public key (for SSH authentication)
[16:30] <amae> TJ-, ok i try
[16:30] <havarka> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> havarka: if you enable the partner repo, you can install it from there. easier
[16:31] <havarka> you mean PPA?
[16:31] <havarka> ActionParsnip,
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> havarka: no, its an official package source
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> havarka: you can enable it in software centre
[16:32] <SuperLag> If you're going to set up multiple instances of Ubuntu, what kinds of methods do you guys do to automate that? Like custom configuration, installing updates and extra packages... stuff like that?
[16:32] <Seveas> SuperLag: puppet.
[16:32] <havarka> ActionParsnip, i dont have it in Lubuntu Software Centrum
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> puppet for me
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> havarka: then you can uncomment the lines for the partner repo in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:33] <TJ-> SuperLag: preseed, kickstart, and any one of several orchestration and configuration management packages
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> havarka: you will need to run:   sudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list      to get write access
[16:34] <havarka> ActionParsnip, i am there, but which one is for the skype?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> havarka: its not specifically for skype, its the partner repo
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> havarka: search the file for the word "partner" you want the lines that start with "deb http"   remove the hash from the start of the line to uncomment it
[16:35] <havarka> http://pastebin.com/rhKL8k7Z
[16:35] <havarka> achernya,
[16:35] <havarka> ActionParsnip,
[16:35] <SuperLag> Seveas: ActionParsnip: How does puppet handle things that require interaction? i.e. saying "yes" to installing a third-party packge, entering a license key for foo
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> havarka: http://pastie.org/9542551
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: not sure, never had that issue really
[16:37] <havarka> ActionParsnip, thx i got it
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> havarka: then run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install skype
[16:39] <havarka> ActionParsnip, mmnt, let you know how does it goes
[16:39] <cimmm> Hey all, I'm back again... didnt get much time yesterday but reading about "hybrid graphics" etc, most resources are for laptops. I'm still trying to get dual- or triple-head running split between intel igpu and nvidia dgpu while using nvidia-331 drivers. Fresh install 14.04.1 nouveau gave me all 3 monitors, but nvidia-331 apparently leaves igp idle once X starts up. Card is non-optimus (GTX560Ti) so I shouldn't need bumblebee. Where do I g
[16:41] <TJ-> cimmm: I'd guess it's an 'nvidia' thing - unlike the nouveau open-source driver, it won't/can't cooperate with another GPU driver (the intel)
[16:42] <whilhelm> hello is irsii working on ubuntu
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> whilhelm: yes
[16:47] <havarka> ActionParsnip, this is what i get now http://paste.ubuntu.com/8310855/
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> havarka: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> havarka: what is the output of:   uname -a
[16:49] <havarka> ActionParsnip, Linux e531 3.13.0-35-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 15 01:58:42 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> havarka: then why did you download the 32bit skype, when you have a 64bit OS?
[16:50] <Alina-malina> when i connect with ftp, why i get owner groul as www-data www-data?
[16:50] <Alina-malina> *group
[16:50] <havarka> i did download 64
[16:50] <Seveas> SuperLag: you tell the vendor to make it automatable or go to a different vendor. There's *no* excuse to require interaction.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> havarka: it says i386 on the file you downloaded.....
[16:51] <havarka> I download from skype.com Ubuntu multiarch - is`n that 64, there was only then 32 and debian?
[16:51] <ChogyDan> anyone here know how to deal with kernel-oops errors?  or even interpret them?
[16:51] <Seveas> SuperLag: e.g. answers to questions in debian packages can be given noninteractively.
[16:51] <SuperLag> Seveas: not Sublime Text
[16:51] <amae> ActionParsnip, what is wubi?
[16:52] <cimmm> TJ- seems like this should be harder on a laptop, I've found quite a few of those but it seems like they all require optimus/bumblebee and fool around with prime. I don't need gpu offloading in either direction, but I require nv binary accel for windows vm... guess it's just not an option
[16:52] <ChogyDan> havarka: I think I got skype working on 64bits, and it was a matter of trial and error.  Just try the packages and see what works
[16:52] <Seveas> SuperLag: then tell the sublime text developers to get their act together...
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> amae: its a cheap and nasty hack to install Ubuntu to a file in your NTFS which acts as a "disk" it's not been updated in 2 years and is bloody awful
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> havarka: yeah, seems to be how its done now.
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> havarka: enable all the other souces in sources.list, it may help
[16:53] <amae> ActionParsnip, ah... ok
[16:53] <ChogyDan> if anyone knows how to read a kernel oops, I would love your thoughts: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/184479280/oops_record.log
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> amae: its flimsy as anything and hard to repair but people still try and use it
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> amae: its intended to be ran a frew weeks, to see if you like the OS
[16:54] <japro> so has anyone fixed issues with a Realtec RTL8188EE wifi adapter on 14.04?
[16:54] <TJ-> cimmm: If that's what you need... run the host on the iGPU and pass-through the nvidia directly to the the VM using VT-d
[16:54] <sarahS> why is apache so different on every system i’ve ever used?
[16:54] <amae> ActionParsnip, i don't want to risk that way, im just beginner in ubuntu
[16:54] <Seveas> ChogyDan: [ 3152.662196] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at b199bb0c
[16:54] <Seveas> bugreport time.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> amae: you just need to put Grub on the MBR and you are done. The "sticking it to grub" guide will show you how
[16:55] <japro> i find a bunch of threads about it which either seem to claim that upgrading the kernel to 3.14.1 works (doesn't for me), or that they changed the router settings (not really an option since I don't control routers elsewhere obviously) or just downgrading to 12.04
[16:55] <CatKiller> ChogyDan: The problem is that the trace gives very little indication as of what caused the memory error
[16:55] <cimmm> TJ- erm I'm on a 3xxx-k series (VTX no VT-d)
[16:55] <ChogyDan> Seveas: it's filed  :)  I don't know how much attention it will get since it is an old laptop
[16:56] <ChogyDan> CatKiller: can I improve that?
[16:56] <amae> ActionParsnip, yah.. i try it again to installe ubuntu 14.04 hope this time i get it.. cross finger :p
[16:56] <sarahS> on ubuntu, you have this sites-available and sites-enabled setup (and same for mods etc)….on fedora it’s just vhost.conf file in a single directory.  Why are they so different?
[16:56] <CatKiller> ChogyDan: Probably not. If it keeps happening try to find out why
[16:56] <CatKiller> ChogyDan: or exactly how you reproduce it.
[16:57] <havarka> ActionParsnip, still the same output when i try to install skype
[16:57] <ChogyDan> CatKiller: well, ok.  It just happens after a few minutes of use, when graphics are enabled.  That's about it :/    I wish I could debug it further.  Thanks though  :)
[16:58] <jiohdi> anyone here ever try ubuntu on a cyberpowerpc?
[16:58] <Seveas> what the hell is a cyberpowerpc? :)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: its just a PC building company, if they use components friendly to ubuntu, it will run ok
[16:59] <jiohdi> I am wondering if anyone ever found a way to turn off the neon lights on the fan
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: were you expecting a blanket "yes they work", because you won't get that with any company unless they preinstall it for you
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: I'd ask in ##hardware or contact the seller
[17:00] <jiohdi> ActionParsnip, thx
[17:00] <thc> anyone know how to install amd catalyst
[17:01] <havarka> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8310965/
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> thc: use additional drivers app in system settings
[17:01] <thc> i tried that
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> thc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[17:02] <thc> im new to ubuntu gives me error after logining
[17:02] <HideMe> I have integrated and PCI videocards. How do I prevent the PCI card from being loaded by the OS?
[17:05] <cimmm> TJ- I guess im gonna screw around with laptop triplehead setups until I lose patience. sadly I'm stuck on windows if I can't get this going though =(
[17:05] <Seveas> HideMe: add the driver to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-hideme.conf
[17:05] <havarka> ActionParsnip, do you have an soution?!
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> havarka: no idea mate, maybe others can advise
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> havarka: skype is junk
[17:06] <HideMe> Seveas, I've done:  echo "blacklist radeon" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:06] <amae> ActionParsnip, my laptop model is dell inspiron m5040
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: that wont work as the user doesnt have write access to that file
[17:07] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, even if I do it as root?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: the file is root owned
[17:07] <amae> ActionParsnip, how to dtermine if uefi my bios
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: echo "blacklist radeon" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf         will work
[17:07] <muriano> \close
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> amae: doesnt appear so
[17:08] <havarka> ActionParsnip, but thx anyway
[17:08] <japro> what is extra annoying that with this realtec adapter i don't only get shitty connection it also takes down the rest of the wifi with it
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> japro: what driver module is it using?
[17:09] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, Right.  So I see the lines on blacklist.conf, yet VMM errors saying the device is already in use.  How can I check to see if a video card is in use?
[17:09] <amae> ActionParsnip, no
[17:09] <japro> ActionParsnip, i have "rtl_pci                27261  1 rtl8188ee" in lsmod
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> japro: try:   echo "options rtl8188ee swenc=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8188ee.conf > /dev/null
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> japro: reboot to test
[17:10] <havarka> ActionParsnip, but i think the probelm is that i was trying upgrade to unicorn. and something didnt work out..
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> havarka: sounds like you have a halfway OS then.
[17:11] <havarka> so i reinstall, quickest solution ActionParsnip
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> havarka: why were you upgrading to Utropic? You do realize it only has 9 months support, wheras Trusty is suported til April 2019.....
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> havarka: why did you try upgrade to Utopic?
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> and why upgrade to something that isnt ready
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> exactly
[17:12] <havarka> ActionParsnip, cause I`am idiot
[17:13] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, So I see the lines on blacklist.conf, yet VMM errors saying the device is already in use.  How can I check to see if a video card is in use?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: the video card will always be in use, it makes the display
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: is this in VMWare?
[17:13] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, I have dual videocards tho.
[17:14] <havarka> ActionParsnip, so see you in 15 minutes
[17:14] <HideMe> No. KVM with PCI Pass-through.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: then I have no idea. I am avoiding that switching video cards hack. I think its nasty
[17:14] <HideMe> on-board video for host, pci video for VM's
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: why does a VM need a video card?
[17:16] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, As I said...  PCI pass-through.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: but for why? Why is it needed?
[17:17] <HideMe> ActionParsnip,  If I want to run a Windows game.
[17:17] <deSouza> whats the command for mount?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> deSouza: mount is the command
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: sounds like a config of the hardware in the VM
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: so, the setting in vmware etc
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> deSouza  sudo mount [device] [folder]
[17:18] <japro> ActionParsnip, the swenc=1 doesn't seem to change anything
[17:18] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, not using VMware.  KVM.  :)
[17:18] <deSouza> ty. Is there a website with all the commands?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> !cli | deSouza start here
[17:19] <deSouza> where??
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> deSouza  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> deSouza: you can read the man pages of the commands you have, they are installed on your system
[17:19] <japro> meh, given that i'm kinda on a fresh install anyway i'll probably just go with the lazy approach and install 12.04
[17:19] <deSouza> ok ty
[17:19] <peterson> hi
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> deSouza: if you tell us what you want to achieve, we may be able to advise more concisely
[17:20] <japro> which is supposed to work
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: are there any guides online for this?
[17:20] <peterson> Alguém do Brasil aí?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> !brasil
[17:20] <HideMe> ActionParsnip, I'm documenting the method.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Flinux%2Fcomments%2F1qj648%2Fcreate_a_gaming_virtual_machine_using_kvm_vfio%2F&ei=fogQVL2sIsbKaIKqgugJ&usg=AFQjCNHu3Dsk_YgwXXJhDxOe3zCqziVQAQ&sig2=j_sFAgnociNcEulbRsX9qg&bvm=bv.74649129,d.d2s                  sorry for the long link
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> HideMe: Google is an ass
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  no ddg?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: its what I was on, so I used it
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  you *do* know that google now knows that you're a cat
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: oh noes
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: google can know what they want. I don't care
[17:31] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: plus, everybody wants to be a cat
[17:33] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , can someone please tell me why java 7 for me only half works as when i use it on some chat sites it works fine, but when i use it on this certain one, i get the java icon then when i click on it, nothing happens how can i fix this please ?
[17:33] <rainbowwarrior> I am using Ubuntu 14.10
[17:33] <squinty> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059   which includes producing the world's first stuffed, radio-controlled flying cat.   (OT)
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: then your support is in #ubuntu+1
[17:34] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip : ok ty
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: you are using pre-release, its NOWN to be broken
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> *known
[17:34] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip : ah ok ty
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: if you want an OS that works, wipe Utopc off and reinstall with Trusty
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: Trusty is also supported til April 2019 as it is LTS, Utopic only has 9 months supoprt after release next month
[17:36] <ccapndave> Hey all - I am trying to mount an NFS folder with no_root_squash, and am getting 'mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified'.  My command is 'mount -o 'no_root_squash' 10.0.0.1:'/Users/dave/Projects' /projects'
[17:37] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip : ok ty
[17:43] <Awellstein> hey could anyone help with my problem. my server does not recognize certain UTF-8 characters for example the section sign, and I cant find any documention on this
[17:44] <d91eud> hi fooks
[17:45] <montabone-mrc> hi!
[17:45] <d91eud> should i use ubuntu or debian?
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> d91eud  whatever you like most
[17:45] <maxvi> advice free ui prototyping and mockup tool for ubuntu to install from repository or add ppa
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> d91eud: you are talking about OSes that champion choice and freedom. Yet you ask for random strangers what to use and how to think?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> d91eud: smacks of Microsoft don't you think?
[17:46] <edsage> does anyone know of a debian package of mono 3.4.0 for lucid 10.04
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | edsage
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> edsage: may be a PPA for it there
[17:47] <kostkon> maxvi, search in the software centre. Also, there is pencil http://pencil.evolus.vn/
[17:47] <maxvi> kostkon: can't find ppa for pencil
[17:48] <kostkon> maxvi, you download the deb and double click on it
[17:48] <edsage> I already looked in the PPAs
[17:49] <adsmz> I'm having issues connecting to my wireless network. It seems my hardware refuses to turn on.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> maxvi: cd $HOME; wget https://evoluspencil.googlecode.com/files/evoluspencil_2.0.5_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./evoluspencil_2.0.5_all.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:50] <edsage> I'm currently tasked with creating a deb of mono for 10.04... Unfortunantly we cannot upgrade because of other dependancies, if anyone has any advice for creating debians... please let me know
[17:50] <EiriksUbuntu> I think I found an irritating little bug. When I download videos and if while downloading I take a look at the downloads folder then Ubuntu tries to make a preview, while it's making a preview it kicks the video out keeping the picture that it chooses to be the preview, so I can only see the preview picture while it plays the sound... any idea how to stop that?
[17:50] <donky> hi
[17:50] <adsmz> I've tried restarting the laptop and the card, but neither worked
[17:50] <donky> my biggest question is, Why should i use ubuntu instead of debian?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> donky: its aimed at new linux users
[17:51] <donky> because, ubuntu is based on debian i cant figure it out
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> donky: it does more hand holding
[17:51] <edsage> If you're asking that question and cannot answer it for yourself, stick with Ubuntu
[17:52] <Slartibartfast13> I"m trying to figure out how to install Other-Life onto this PC which is running a live Kubuntu CD
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> donky  plenty review about your questions, here's one: http://superuser.com/questions/154333/what-is-the-difference-between-debian-and-ubuntu
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13> These are the installation instructions for Other-Life:
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13> http://pastebin.com/7J1WX8Cx
[17:53] <adsmz> yeah, #kubuntu wasn't very helpful with my networking issues
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13> The only part of these instructions for installing Other-Life, that I don't understand, is the following:
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13>  Set the execute bit on the executable programs (*bin):
[17:53] <Slartibartfast13>  chmod +x *bin
[17:53] <adsmz> in fact the person helping me dissappeard from the online list
[17:54] <Slartibartfast13> Is that a command line I need to enter in the command terminal, and at what point during the installation do I enter it?
[17:54] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: yes, it sets anything that ends with bin, as an executable, you should cd to the folder first and run it
[17:54] <postman|> My 14.04 system is running a second lightdm process: http://i.imgur.com/k3Erv0h.png  It occasionally locks me out of my desktop, requiring me to restart the service.  How is lightdm initiated during startup?  Where should I look to fix this?
[17:55] <adsmz> couldn't you also just go in, right click, and mark it executable from the properties thing?
[17:55] <adsmz> @ eriC^^
[17:55] <g00gz> Anyone familiar with running a tcpdump for SIP voip traffic?
[17:55] <kostkon> postman|, same here (on 12.04) so i'm guessing that's normal
[17:56] <EriC^^> adsmz: well, he'd have to do that for all bin files, that would do them all at once
[17:56] <g00gz> i'm trying to determine if iptables is causing the sip call to disconnect after 90sec
[17:56] <adsmz> ah, I see
[17:56] <Dario34> does anyone play Lin-city?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Dario34: many
[17:56] <postman|> kostkon:  Really?  I don't recall seeing the second instance before I installed (and then uninstalled) xfce4 a few days ago.
[17:56] <Dario34> i do but still miss sc 3000
[17:57] <Slartibartfast13> EriC:  When you say “cd”, do you mean enter that command into my terminal konsole?
[17:57] <indn1234> Slartibartfast13: yes
[17:57] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: cd /path/to/binfiles
[17:58] <EriC^^> ls to view directory contents
[17:58] <Dario34> ActionParsnip: in the early game what is the way of increasing tech level? schools only?
[17:59] <kostkon> postman|, check your logs
[18:00] <Dario34> does anyone have cities to share? (lin-city)
[18:01] <ChogyDan> is there a way to look at a dmesg from a previous boot (my laptop is locked up, and I can't seem to even alt+prtscrn+k)?
[18:01] <g00gz> anyone?
[18:02] <ikonia> the syslog contains dmesg
[18:02] <ChogyDan> kk, thanks ikonia
[18:03] <Slartibartfast13> When the Other-Life support says  “Download el_ol_linux_193.zip and extract it into a new folder,” do they mean extract it to the ol_linux folder?
[18:04] <Slartibartfast13> that was for EriC
[18:08] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: try unzip filename.zip
[18:08] <EriC^^> create a new folder (mkdir)
[18:08] <EriC^^> mv it there and unzip
[18:09] <Slartibartfast13> Should I create a new directory called ol_linux using the command terminal konsole?
[18:09] <EriC^^> ok
[18:09] <RoBo_V_> Guys I have .sh shell script how to make it execuatbale and run it on startup... ?
[18:10] <EriC^^> RoBo_V_: chmod +x script.sh
[18:10] <EriC^^> RoBo_V_: run it on start up, does it need privileges?
[18:10] <RoBo_V_> No I think
[18:10] <luffy> does anybody know how to use gdb?
[18:10] <EriC^^> you can add it to ~/.profile if you want
[18:11] <luffy> can anyone explain how to debug using gdb?
[18:11] <Slartibartfast13> Would this command work, EriC, "mkdir ol_linux"?
[18:12] <EriC^^> yes
[18:12] <edsage> @ luffy you compile the program and then run gdb on the binary
[18:12] <RoBo_V_> EriC^^: I see, how to add
[18:12] <cn28h> luffy: you'll probably want to be a little more specific ..
[18:12] <EriC^^> RoBo_V_: add the line sh script.sh to ~/.profile
[18:12] <luffy> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[18:12] <luffy> 0x0000000000400735 in main ()
[18:12] <luffy> (gdb) bt
[18:12] <luffy> #0  0x0000000000400735 in main ()
[18:12] <xikkub> luffy: compile with debugging symbols (-g) and run in gdb with "gdb ./myprog"?
[18:13] <luffy> what does it mean?
[18:13] <RoBo_V_> EriC^^: okk let me try
[18:13] <edsage> first, don't put a ./
[18:13] <hashken> luffy: Compile as gcc -g -o myprog myprog.c
[18:14] <EriC^^> gdb doesn't help with segfaults though does it?
[18:14] <luffy> will i i be able to get the line number where segfault is occuring?
[18:14] <hashken> luffy: Not sure. I've heard valgrind is good for these purposes
[18:15] <xikkub> bt shows your call stack. you might find 'valgrind' to be useful
[18:15] <amae> guys, where i can find recycle bin in ubuntu 14.04
[18:15] <edsage> it can help with segfault, but it looks like its encounterng a segfault when it loads the binary
[18:15] <edsage> and valugrind is for checking memory leaks
[18:15] <edsage> valgrind*
[18:15] <luffy> hashken ,whats valgrind?
[18:15] <hashken> edsage: Oh, my bad
[18:15] <Slartibartfast13> Do you unzip a file by right clicking on it and choosing unzip, or do you do it in the command konsole?
[18:15] <edsage> @amae its called trash in ubuntu
[18:15] <EriC^^> amae: you mean the actual location of it?
[18:16] <cn28h> gdb certainly does help with seg faults
[18:16] <hashken> luffy: As edsage pointed put, valgrind is a tool for checking memory leaks
[18:16] <edsage> and you can find it by opening the file browser and looking at the left
[18:16] <cn28h> if you have built with debugging symbols, bt should print the line numbers in the stack trace
[18:16] <amae> EriC^^, yes, the exact loc
[18:16] <xikkub> valgrind isnt exclusively used for memory leaks, though thats what i use it most often for
[18:17] <luffy> so can i debug using valgrind?
[18:17] <EriC^^> amae: ~/.local/share/Trash
[18:17] <Slartibartfast13> sorry, EriC^^, for you I asked, "Do you unzip a file by right clicking on it and choosing unzip, or do you do it in the command konsole?
[18:17] <cn28h> valgrind is also very useful for memory corruption and catching uninitialized reads
[18:17] <EriC^^> amae: it's in the files directory
[18:17] <edsage> no, you debug with gdb
[18:17] <edsage> you check for memory leaks with valgrind
[18:17] <luffy> edsage,what is memory leak?
[18:18] <edsage> It's were you told the program to get some memory from the heap but you never told it to delete the memory
[18:18] <bkuberek> hello, having an issue with groups -- using usermod -a -G <group> <user>
[18:18] <amae> EriC^^, thanks :p
[18:18] <edsage> so for instance, you create a pointer, and then don't destroy the pointer, you will have a memory leak at some point
[18:18] <EriC^^> np :D
[18:19] <bkuberek> I am logged in as the user and if I do `id` vs `id <username>` different things are displayed
[18:19] <xikkub> edsage: only if you've dynamically allocated what it's pointing to, though?
[18:19] <edsage> Your problem is that your program is failing, probably because there's an error semantically with your code
[18:19] <luffy> edsage,can i get the line number of segfault using gdb?
[18:19] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i think both work
[18:20] <EriC^^> bkuberek: that's normal
[18:20] <edsage> If you open it with gdb you can walk through your code until you encounter an error, but it sounds like your error is at the beginning of execution
[18:20] <bkuberek> EriC^^: how do I fix that?
[18:20] <bkuberek> I am trying to change permissions on a folder but it is not being activated
[18:20] <EriC^^> /etc/group and /etc/passwd can be read by everyone
[18:20] <EriC^^> bkuberek:  you don't :)
[18:20] <EriC^^> why do you want to fix it?
[18:20] <luffy> edsage ,how can one figure that out?(where the error is occuring)?
[18:21] <bkuberek> EriC^^: lets say I am logged in as foo
[18:21] <bkuberek> sudo usermod -G somegroup -a foo
[18:22] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^ Do I run the “chmod +x *bin” command before or after I unzip the Other-Life el_ol_linux_193.zip file?
[18:22] <bkuberek> sudo chgrp somegroup somedir
[18:22] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: after
[18:22] <Slartibartfast13> thanks Eric
[18:22] <bkuberek> sudo chmod g+rwx somedir
[18:22] <edsage> @luffy you may need to just read through the code yourself and diagnose the error. GDB may not work until you've removed some of your intial errors
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> bkuberek  use a pastebin for multiple lines
[18:22] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: np
[18:22] <bkuberek> I am unable to list the files in dirt
[18:23] <luffy> edsage,eeee,thanks
[18:23] <bkuberek> MonkeyDust: I didn't paste them I typed them
[18:23] <bkuberek> but I will
[18:23] <EriC^^> ok, ls -l /path/to/dir , and id
[18:23] <EriC^^> sorry
[18:23] <EriC^^> ls -ld /path/to/dir
[18:23] <bkuberek> EriC^^: I will do a paste
[18:23] <EriC^^> paste those two lines here, it's fine
[18:24] <c0mrad3> can any one help me with installing webgoat
[18:24] <ikonia> what the devil is webgoat ?
[18:24] <edsage> @luffy sorry that I can't help you more, but just try to walk through the code in your head and see if you find any obvious errors
[18:25] <luffy> edsage,thanks i will try to figure it out,,thanks
[18:25] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Can I use Dolphin File Manager to create the directory and move the zip file into it, instead of using the command terminal?
[18:25] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: yes
[18:25] <Slartibartfast13> Excellent
[18:27] <c0mrad3> Please set JAVA_HOME to a Java 1.5 JDK install
[18:27] <bkuberek> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/1fSQpnrj
[18:27] <c0mrad3> what should i do when i get this
[18:30] <chemist^> !ask c0mrad3
[18:30] <chemist^> !ask
[18:30] <c0mrad3> kk @ubottu
[18:30] <bkuberek> !patience
[18:31] <edsage> comrad3 you need to set java_home in your terminal to your java binary
[18:31] <EriC^^> bkuberek: do this
[18:31] <EriC^^> exit
[18:31] <EriC^^> then login
[18:31] <EriC^^> id and id ubuntu will be consistent
[18:32] <edsage> you can also use a oracle-java-set-default package to do it for you
[18:33] <bkuberek> eraggo_: appears to be caching my session. I will try terminating my session
[18:33] <CodeGosu> what is easiest way to scheldue some scripts executed on startup, i do specificaly need a job to be run in visible terminals so i can easely see error messages invidualy as well as ability to close them on will
[18:33] <bkuberek> sorry I mean EriC^^
[18:33] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Here is a summary of the installation instructions I got from the Other-Life website and from chatting with you....tell me if this is correct:
[18:33] <Slartibartfast13> http://pastebin.com/23B0SBNM
[18:34] <EriC^^> bkuberek: you can either logout or login, or login again using su ubuntu
[18:34] <Slartibartfast13> I cut it down to four steps
[18:35] <dogarrhea> how recommended is it to hack xorg, download untested nvidia drivers and restart?
[18:35] <dogarrhea> is there a real possibility of bricking my computer?
[18:35] <chaos10> hello, i am facing a problem with 14.04 on a laptop, after an upgrade, i can't get to login screen without "nomodeset" in the boot parameters. I get a black screen with blinking cursor.
[18:35] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Then I pasted it here, so you can check if I got the 4 steps right  http://pastebin.com/23B0SBNM
[18:35] <JagaJaga> HI guys! Trying to install ceph on 12.04. But when updating repos apt Ignores my ceph repo. That's why it installs old version from ubuntu's repos. How to fix it?
[18:35] <CodeGosu> are there tools that can scheldue startup stuff in terminals somehow like this
[18:35] <CodeGosu> terminal  1:  cd ~/blah/blah; lsc -cwo . .
[18:35] <CodeGosu> terminal  2:  cd ~/blah2/; python3 -m http.server
[18:35] <CodeGosu> terminal  3:  cd ~/blah3/; ./blahblah
[18:36] <EriC^^> CodeGosu: you can use gnome-terminal to open it in a terminal
[18:36] <systest> does anyone still use sysstat?  the defaults in the package are sort of useless (1 data point every 10 minutes)
[18:36] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  Will those 4 steps work?
[18:36] <EriC^^> CodeGosu: gnome terminal -e "bash -c '<yourcommand>; exec bash -i'"
[18:37] <EriC^^> CodeGosu: that will execute it in a terminal, and leave it open after the program finishes
[18:38] <systest> CodeGosu, what do you mean by "schedule"?  It's going to be tough to open a terminal window unless you already have some sort of GUI session open.
[18:38] <eraggo_> bkuberek: np
[18:38] <JagaJaga> Guys? :(
[18:39] <Slartibartfast13> Can someone check that I got these 4 steps right?  http://pastebin.com/23B0SBNM
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> !find ceph
[18:40] <guardianpwr08> hello... on my web server after maybe a day, the URL wont resolve.... but the IP address works great. if i run "ps aux | grep apache2 | wc -l" it showed 150 + instances of apache running...  the only thing i knew to do was restart apache, which fixed the problem and started apache back at around 14 instances.   I am totally clueless on what to do to fix this...
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> JagaJaga  the repos contain ceph 0.80.5
[18:41] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: yeah, man. I know it. But in 12.04 repos it's old. How to force it download from another repo (which I've added to sources.list)?
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> JagaJaga  try a !backport
[18:42] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: what is it?
[18:42] <JagaJaga> (I'm out of ubuntu at all, using another distro for years)
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !backport | JagaJaga
[18:42] <autoburger> right
[18:43] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: thx
[18:43] <JagaJaga> MonkeyDust: gonna go this way
[18:45] <HideMe> Anyone using KVM with PCI Pass-through?
[18:46] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: what do you mean it ignores your ceph repo?  it shouldn't do that.  If backports doesn't work for you, maybe pastebin the errors and outputs and the commands used, and such
[18:46] <Slartibartfast13> Oh yeah, look at stage 3, I think I made a mistake
[18:48] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: how many bin files are there?
[18:48] <Slartibartfast13> I forgot to write this command first, "cd ol_linux".  Then I execute this command...chmod +x *bin
[18:49] <Slartibartfast13> I have no idea, cause I have not unzipped the zip game file yet, EriC^^
[18:49] <EriC^^> well you should try it
[18:49] <autoburger> ok sysadmins, what do you interview for?
[18:49] <EriC^^> as it could unzip to a folder itself
[18:49] <Slartibartfast13> No one has verified my four steps yet, and I made a mistake with step 3
[18:49] <autoburger> I have apparently gotn old and have been dissed 3x
[18:49] <rww> ubottu: ot | autoburger
[18:50] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: like you could unzip it and it could make it's own folders,
[18:50] <autoburger> I am wondering if  my impertinent manner perhaps is to blame
[18:50] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i told you to make a new folder as the instructions are not clear enough, i didn't want you to unzip them and have a bunch of files in your home directory
[18:50] <Slartibartfast13> But why would that matter, if all the folders are inside the ol_linux folder, EriC^^ ?
[18:51] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: cuz then you'd have to cd ol_linux\other folder
[18:51] <thc> i got ubuntu desktop on now it says system error each time after i login
[18:52] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: trying do this http://ceph.com/docs/master/install/upgrading-ceph/ After adding repo of Ceph it still installsversion from repo of precise. (Just add to sources >> update >> install ceph >> ceph version 0.41 instead of 0.80)
[18:53] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and then what is the command that you ran to update?
[18:53] <thc> anyone? run into this problem?
[18:54] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: apt-get -q update
[18:54] <clarjon1> Heyo, i have ubuntu installed on my server, and i just got this when i tried to apt-get update: http://privatepaste.com/0d5fac536c
[18:54] <ChogyDan> thc: can you describe the issue more?  is it a popup?  any other details?
[18:54] <clarjon1> What should i tweak in my sources to fix this? Thanks.
[18:55] <Beldar> clarjon1, quantal is eol
[18:55] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^:  Please just look at the first 4 steps and tell me if anything needs to be changed.  I revised step 3 in this new pastebin: http://pastebin.com/LM1tVWGE
[18:55] <rww> !eolupgrades
[18:55] <clarjon1> Beldar: apt-get dist-upgrade then?
[18:55] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and then apt-get upgrade says nothing?
[18:55] <rww> clarjon1: see the link at the end of ubottu's message
[18:55] <clarjon1> looking at it now
[18:56] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: nothing about ceph
[18:56] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i can only tell you to test this if you're handing this out to someone else
[18:57] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: can you pastebin the ouput of apt-cache policy ceph-deploy
[18:57] <Slartibartfast13> Keep in mind I"m using a Live CD
[18:57] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: i dont know if the file manager will run a program if you double click it
[18:57] <clarjon1> rww: Dang, that page doesn't have an upgrade from quantal -- it stops at a version before quantal.
[18:57] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: what distro are you using again?
[18:57] <Slartibartfast13> Kubuntu 14.04 live CD
[18:58] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/rKSFcGrT
[18:58] <EriC^^> ok well, that means whatever you do you can't mess up, right?
[18:58] <Slartibartfast13> yeah, because it's a live CD.  If things go wrong, I can just reboot
[18:59] <Slartibartfast13> and it will disappear from my RAM, I am assuming
[18:59] <rww> clarjon1: oh. fun :c
[19:00] <EriC^^> Slartibartfast13: curious, who are these instructions for?
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> But look at stage 3, are the command lines right, EriC^^ ?
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> for me
[19:00] <EriC^^> so why don't you follow them
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> http://pastebin.com/LM1tVWGE
[19:00] <EriC^^> and see if they work
[19:00] <EriC^^> ?
[19:00] <EriC^^> :D
[19:00] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and you want firefly, and you want to upgrade ceph, right?  What does apt-get upgrade ceph say?
[19:00] <clarjon1> and of course i didn't have the update-manager-core installed, so i have to mod the sources manually. At least that page gives me enough info to get that far :) Thanks rww
[19:00] <Slartibartfast13> just want to check the command lines first, to save time
[19:01] <EriC^^> ^^ not making sense
[19:01] <EriC^^> unzip the file
[19:01] <EriC^^> chmod, and try to double click
[19:02] <Slartibartfast13> What doesn't make sense?  How do I fix it?  Change stage 3?
[19:02] <helo> where the heck does apport put my cores?
[19:02] <helo> (noticed it steals my cores because of /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern)
[19:03] <Slartibartfast13> Sorry, EriC^^, I did not address you, when I asked how to fix stage 3
[19:03]  * clarjon1 facedesk.
[19:04] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/wXY8f49a
[19:04] <CodeGosu> how to execute multiply sequntial commands in terminal in one line? first one works, but second dosent
[19:04] <CodeGosu> gnome-terminal -e ls
[19:04] <CodeGosu> gnome-terminal -e cd /home/code && ls
[19:04] <havarka> hi guys, i am using Chromium, and when I click on magnet link on thepiratebay or kickass i guess it aplly to any other site as well instead of opening the deluge its just open new window in google, how to associate deluge with chromium? thx
[19:05] <Slartibartfast13> Please look at the commands in stage 3, and tell me how to fix them, EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/LM1tVWGE
[19:05] <clarjon1> of course the upgrade tool doesn't install it's full dependencies. Why on earth would it do that? Why on earth would update-manager-core need to mark python-apt as a dependency... *continues frustrated grumbling under breath*
[19:05] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: heh, I dunno.  Maybe try aptitude
[19:06] <TJ-> CodeGosu: "&&" will only execute the 2nd command if the 1st returns TRUE
[19:06] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: oh shi~ :( With aptitude no luck too.
[19:06] <SleepyPi1achu> I'm using ubuntu 12.04, I attempted to manually install some 14 packages to enable the drm features in google-chrome. However this hasn't worked and now when I do an apt I get the following output http://pastebin.com/ryGX392S
[19:06] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: there is no way in ubuntu to tell install ceph-0.80? Or smth like that?
[19:06] <TJ-> CodeGosu: If you want to pass the entire line to gnome-terminal, enclose it in quote marks
[19:07] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: maybe try here: http://superuser.com/questions/95938/apt-get-for-a-particular-version    and specify the whole 0.8 version string
[19:08] <luffy> if i remove zeistgeist will my system speed up?or will there be any side effects?
[19:10] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: this way have to specify version for all deps too.. Eh...
[19:10] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: the last idea I can think of would be to apt-get install --reinstall ceph, see if that grabs the latest
[19:11] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: already. No luck
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> luffy  is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[19:12] <frankqux> hi, anyone here use policykit with xinit/startx ?
[19:13] <jhutchins> frankqux: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:13] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: and you have tried dist-upgrade as well?
[19:14] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: can't do it. Need server runnig for research.
[19:14] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: heh, 9 pkgs with version written did the job... F.. ubuntu
[19:15] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: what do you mean?  dist-upgrade just allows new packages to be installed.   so apt-get dist-upgrade ceph shouldn't affect the rest of your system
[19:16] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: well i did this `apt-get install pkg1=version1 pkg2=version2...`
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> JagaJaga  dist-upgrade is not the same as a release upgrade
[19:16] <evigrande> s
[19:16] <soman> Why I always get skype tray context menu with only about 3 items and up and down buttons? Last skype release xubuntu 12.04.1
[19:16] <ChogyDan> JagaJaga: yep, a pain.  sorry about that
[19:16] <soman> How make skype to show all items at once
[19:18] <JagaJaga> ChogyDan: thx for all your help!
[19:18] <ChogyDan> np, take care
[19:18] <havarka> MonkeyDust, whats the difference?
[19:18] <SirRiffsAlot> Hey guys, is it possible to encrypt a flash drive containing, say music files, and enable anyone plugging it into their machine to listen to the files without being able to copy or alter them in any way?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> havarka  dist-upgrade upgradess the packages to the newest version, that's not the same as a new ubuntu version
[19:19] <ChogyDan> SirRiffsAlot: that is DRM not encryption
[19:19] <Igurd> SirRiffsAlot: not really
[19:19] <Igurd> as in every drm gets broken once somebody with skills cares enough about it
[19:20] <alicewand> Hi, does anyone know how I can install the i386 version of this package from the command line? http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/f2c
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> alicewand  is it in the repos? if not, try wget and then dpkg -i
[19:21] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: Igurd :-S
[19:21] <alicewand> MonkeyDust, I'im new to Ubuntu, what is the repos?
[19:21] <havarka> MonkeyDust, and how to you upgrade to new ubuntu version what is the command?
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> havarka  do-release-upgrade
[19:22] <frankqux> I'm trying to find the correct way to invoke the policykit agent via startx/xinit. the end of my .xinitrc looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/8311986/ . it seems to work but I don't know much about dbus/consolekit/policykit so I don't know if those commands overlap or if one is meant to replace another
[19:22] <Igurd> SirRiffsAlot: why do you want to do that? :v
[19:22] <Igurd> maybe there's another solution
[19:22] <havarka> MonkeyDust, but the question is, isnt the best to have LTS ?
[19:22] <alicewand> I would like to specify using the i386 instead of the AMD64 version of the package because my machine is 64 bits but I'm doing some 32-bit stuff
[19:22] <SirRiffsAlot> Igurd: well, in my school there are several drummers, and I wanna show them my stuff and enable them to listen to it in peace so I'm not there to make them awkward. However I don't want to spread my soundfiles all over the place
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> havarka  yes, if you want long support
[19:22] <alicewand> so I don't want to automatically let wget install the default
[19:23] <SirRiffsAlot> Igurd: but DRM sounds good, I'll look into it! Thanks ChogyDan!
[19:23] <havarka> and new version if you want new features, correct? MonkeyDust
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> havarka  yes, if you want the latest and greatest - I prefer LTS releases
[19:23] <ChogyDan> SirRiffsAlot: there may not be any sort of DRM available on linux.  That might be a dead end, but it is the correct term...
[19:24] <clarjon1> rww: Woohoo! do-release-upgrade worked! After having to install a hard dependency that wasn't taken care of by apt, but still, success! :3
[19:24] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: any other ideas then?
[19:24] <havarka> MonkeyDust, so whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade ?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> havarka  that, my friend, i am not sure of myself
[19:25] <SirRiffsAlot> havarka: you upgrade for instance kernels as well
[19:25] <rww> clarjon1: good to know :D
[19:26] <clarjon1> havarka: apt-get upgrade will select all the packages it can to update, without uninstalling packages.
[19:26] <clarjon1> havarka: apt-get dist-upgrade will do a full upgrade of all packages, even if it means that due to dependency conflicts, packages get removed
[19:26] <ChogyDan> SirRiffsAlot: I would use soundcloud or some other service.
[19:26] <clarjon1> havarka: That is the difference from my experiences with it
[19:27] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: Hmm
[19:27] <CodeGosu> i want to write a line in sh file that calls terminal, it executes many commands in raw, but i want it to be readable, how to seperate in into several lines?
[19:27] <CodeGosu> gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'cd /home/qq/code; ls; some other actions that might be better on 30 lines; exec bash -i;'"
[19:27] <calahan>  /sc
[19:27] <SirRiffsAlot> ChogyDan: I don't wanna upload stuff into a "cloud", kinda defeats my goal to begin with
[19:27] <calahan> sorry missed window
[19:27] <clarjon1> havarka: So if certain packages need to be upgraded in a specific order, which often happens when updating a distro version.... dist-upgrade will nuke a lot of 'em.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  there's also the channel #bash
[19:28] <havarka> so the best is to do apt-get upgrade and then dist-upgrade, and everything should be ok?!
[19:28] <clarjon1> havarka: It's actually best to use the distro upgrade tool that canonical provides
[19:29] <clarjon1> There iiiiis a way to upgrade to another version without it, which includes editing the sources.d yourself and then managing updating the packages yourself ( i've done such things before) but it is NOT recommended at all, unless you know whatyou're doing
[19:29] <havarka> clarjon1, ok
[19:30] <clarjon1> havarka: It's mostly a process of try to upgrade everything, find out what it wants to delete to do the upgrade, upgrade the packages it wants to delete first to fix the dependency issues, repeat until system is upgraded
[19:31] <clarjon1> rather tedious and involved.
[19:31] <havarka> i see
[19:31] <ChogyDan> havarka: I have done that in the past.  It isn't worth it.  It leaves behind a lot of old packages as well
[19:31] <clarjon1> ^
[19:31] <havarka> and anyway who needs the most up-to-date system when everything works well?
[19:31] <havarka> ChogyDan, but you can to autoremove afterwards
[19:32] <ChogyDan> havarka: no, you can't
[19:32] <alicewand> does anyone know how I can change the architecture on aptitude from amd64 to i386?
[19:32] <alicewand> for an installation?
[19:32] <alicewand> change the architecture for an aptitude installation from amd64 to i386
[19:32] <havarka> ChogyDan, that sucks
[19:33] <ChogyDan> havarka: and further, there are potential configuration issues that are handled by the upgrade tool that wouldn't be handled by such upgrades
[19:33] <havarka> ChogyDan, so whats the best way according to you?
[19:33] <ChogyDan> I ran into all this stuff because years ago, I didn't know they had an upgrade tool
[19:33] <jgornick> Hey guys, is it possible to install an older version of a package from a PPA? For example, I'm trying to install an older version of Node.js from https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/ubuntu/node.js
[19:34] <SleepyPi1achu> Can anyone help me with this: http://pastebin.com/AwgdkQkz I'm stuck in a loop (sudo apt-get -f install instructs me to call it again)
[19:36] <ChogyDan> havarka: I dunno, either the upgrade tool, or clean installs I guess
[19:36] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: what is the output of apt-get install libnss3?
[19:37] <havarka> but before you said it leaves lot of old packages, but still its the best?
[19:37] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/1er0yUg7
[19:38] <ChogyDan> havarka: the do-release tool and the graphical tool have a part where they remove the old packages
[19:38] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: apt-cache policy libnss3*
[19:38] <havarka> i see, so the tool its the best, no disadvantages
[19:39] <SleepyPi1achu> http://pastebin.com/PvPKpWnV
[19:40] <ChogyDan> havarka: it is where the ubuntu devs put all their work to make things work.  So, if there are any bugs that someone comes up with a fix for, it will be integrated into those tools.  They are where the best will go, I suppose
[19:40] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: forgot to tag you, sorry. Thanks for your help so far :-)
[19:40] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^  I created a directory called ol_linux, then I moved the zip file to that directory and extracted the zip file there, and it automatically created a new directory called ol_linux with the ol_linux directory
[19:40] <Slartibartfast13> within the ol_linux directory, (same name)
[19:41] <autoburger> Slartibartfast13: you are learning the ancient sorcery of zip and unzip
[19:41] <autoburger> are you standing ina macgic circle?
[19:41] <autoburger> or pentagram
[19:41] <autoburger> ?
[19:42] <Slartibartfast13> in that double directory, it created a bunch of folders and files and two of the files are bin files
[19:42] <havarka> ChogyDan, thanks for explanations
[19:42] <Slartibartfast13> So how do I make those two bin files executable?
[19:43] <havarka> PROBLEM: I am using Chrome, and when I click on magnet link on thepiratebay or kickass i guess it aplly to any other site as well instead of opening the deluge its just open new window in google, how to associate deluge with chromium?
[19:43] <Slartibartfast13> I tried the command chmod +x *bin, but Kubuntu told me "Cannot access chmod: no such file or directory"
[19:43] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: where did you get libnss3-1d?  Did you download it separately?  When did these errors start?
[19:44] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: I tried to manually install some packages from 14, I understand that was a mistake but I'm having trouble correcting it. :P
[19:44] <Slartibartfast13> EriC^^ et autoburger chmod: cannot access ‘*bin’: No such file or directory
[19:44] <ikonia> Slartibartfast13: then you are not in the same directory as the file you are trying to chmod
[19:45] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: would you be ok with removing those 2 packages, and then reinstalling them?  That would down grade their versions, and they would be removed temporarily
[19:45] <ikonia> it's not just the two packages
[19:45] <ikonia> did they pull in any dependencies
[19:45] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: I've tried to do that but I'm more than happy to give it a shot. I've taken a snapshot of my vm anyway - I can always roll back
[19:45] <ikonia> did they force the upgrade of any packages currently installed to meet dependencies
[19:46] <Slartibartfast13> I ran "ls" in the ol._linux directory, and got two names....ol_linux....and.....ol_linux_193.zip
[19:46] <ikonia> Slartibartfast13: what exactly are you trying to do
[19:46] <ikonia> Slartibartfast13: you seem to have been struggling for a while now
[19:46] <Foxy1604> hi!!
[19:46] <Slartibartfast13> Yeah, I need to go inside the ol_linux which is inside the directory of the same name
[19:46] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: if you wanted to upgrade libnss3, or whatever, you would need to uprade all the dependencies from whatever source you are using, fyi
[19:46] <Foxy1604> Anyone wanna help me with a Ubuntu related question?? (My sister broke her laptop while updating x3)
[19:47] <Guest7993> How bad is it?
[19:47] <Slartibartfast13> ikonia, Install and excecute the game called Other-Life, that is my goal
[19:47] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: Can you help me with what you suggested? Removing the package and then installing it again from the repo? I'll upgrade to 14 once I'm table
[19:47] <SleepyPi1achu> stable*
[19:47] <Slartibartfast13> I am running Kubuntu 14.04 off a live CD
[19:48] <ikonia> SleepyPi1achu: it's not just those packages
[19:48] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: apt-get remove libnss3-1d libnss3-nssdb
[19:48] <ikonia> SleepyPi1achu: it's any others they touched via dependencies
[19:49] <x_root> hello, i'm on gnome-shell.. alt+tab is not working as intended..  it should, every time i press tab it should go to the next program
[19:49] <ChogyDan> ikonia: he installed those 2 packages from random debs, it looks like.  That's why it can't find the dependencies since it wans't through apt
[19:49] <x_root> but this is working now only with super+tab.. how to fix this?
[19:49] <Foxy1604> my sis was upgrading her laptop (a old Samsumg mini-laptop with Atom processor) but got a bit impatient and turned it off while upgrading..
[19:49] <ikonia> ChogyDan: it will still match dependencies
[19:50] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: was there any valuable data on it?
[19:50] <Foxy1604> now it trows a lot of error messages like packages that can be found but it dont wanna install
[19:50] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: all of her homework and programms
[19:51] <Foxy1604> the homework is something i can save but the programs..
[19:51] <SleepyPi1achu> ikonia: Agreed but can't I now install the correct packages at the bottom of the tree>
[19:51] <Foxy1604> that is the big how..
[19:51] <ChogyDan> ikonia: the updated depends aren't available in the repos.  Here is what he posted, fyi: http://pastebin.com/PvPKpWnV
[19:51] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Can you boot into recovery from GRUB?
[19:51] <ikonia> ChogyDan: then it wouldn't have installed
[19:51] <ikonia> ChogyDan: if the dependencies couldn't be met as they are not available, it wouldn't have installed
[19:52] <ChogyDan> ikonia: good point.  I don't know how he got those packages on his system
[19:52] <Slartibartfast13> I used these commands, and it worked...kubuntu@kubuntu:~/ol_linux$ cd /home/kubuntu/ol_linux/ol_linux
[19:52] <Slartibartfast13> kubuntu@kubuntu:~/ol_linux/ol_linux$ chmod +x *bin
[19:52] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: yes i can! :D
[19:52] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: let me do that right now ;)
[19:52] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Try restarting the upgrade from there with sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:52] <Slartibartfast13> Does that mean the two bin files in that double directory are now executable?
[19:53] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: You may need to run sudo dkpg --configura -a also
[19:53] <fdisk122> *configure
[19:53] <Foxy1604> okay!!
[19:53] <Foxy1604> just a sec :3
[19:53] <fdisk122> If that doesn't work there's a fix you can try if you can boot to an Ubuntu live CD or USB
[19:53] <Slartibartfast13> the directory is called ol_linux/ol_linux....it's a directory inside a directory of the same name
[19:53] <Foxy1604> kay recovery booted..
[19:54] <notnarb> I've added a stick of ram to my computer and everything seems to be working fine (even ran a pass of memtest), but now I can't resume from suspend without the computer seizing on a black screen (cursor appears and can be moved for a short while, then frozen).  I diffed my pm-suspend.log and no difference from a successful resume.  (14.04/3.13)
[19:54] <notnarb> Do I need to increase my swap size maybe?
[19:54] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: where did you get those packages from?
[19:54] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: ikonia I installed them from debs downloaded from here and similar http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/amd64/libnss3/download
[19:54] <evil_dan2wik> notnarb, yes.
[19:54] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: First try resuming the update and upgrade with apt-get
[19:55] <evil_dan2wik> notnarb, but sometimes, the ram just doesn't work with suspend and ubuntu.
[19:55] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: okay!!
[19:56] <alesan> hello which application is there in UBUNTU to open dxf files? I do not need to edit them just to open and maybe esport as PDF or image
[19:56] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: ehm.. it say's things like (with a rugh translation) unmet depencies
[19:56] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Is networking enabled?
[19:56] <Foxy1604> jep ;)
[19:57] <Slartibartfast13> I tried double clicking on this file, ol.x86-64.linux.bin
[19:57] <Foxy1604> update worked like a charm
[19:57] <Foxy1604> let's try pinging to google ;_
[19:57] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: You may have to plug in an Ethernet cable and run dhclient eth0 if not
[19:57] <Slartibartfast13> But it just asks me to open it using some app I must choose
[19:57] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: did you download libnss3?  it is still the old version, which is what apt originally complained about.
[19:57] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: yep i do have internet ;)
[19:57] <notnarb> evil_dan2wik: thanks, I guess I'll try resizing my swap
[19:58] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:58] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: I don't remember. I'll try
[19:58] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: was she running regular ubuntu?
[19:58] <Slartibartfast13> How can I execute the following file....ol.x86-64.linux.bin
[19:59] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: i just did that and it failed with..  a lot of programs on the screen..
[19:59] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: yes she was running a LTS version ;)
[19:59] <Slartibartfast13> Is there a command that I can use in the terminal  konsole to execute a file?
[19:59] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/skzXZZXc
[19:59] <ChogyDan> Slartibartfast13: on a cli, you just ./bin_name.bin
[20:00] <Slartibartfast13> cli?  What is cli?
[20:00] <Slartibartfast13> cli = command line?
[20:01] <Spec> yes
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> cli = command line interface, as opposed to gui, graphic user interface
[20:01] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: yeah, sorry, I can't help with installing packages across releases.  I can help downgrading back to normal if that's what you'd like
[20:01] <Spec> or webui, :p
[20:01] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Perhaps try sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[20:01] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: Yeah I just want to get back into a stable state
[20:01] <fdisk122> or if you have ppa-purge installed use that
[20:01] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: okay!! just a sec :3
[20:01] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: did that remove command work?
[20:01] <fdisk122> then sudo apt-get update again and sudo apt-get -f install
[20:01] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: and pastebin the errors you get
[20:02] <Slartibartfast13> should I type this in the command line?.....    ./ol.x86-64.linux.bin    ?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Slartibartfast13  yes, if you are in the right folder
[20:02] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: That leaves me with http://pastebin.com/N4s11G5k
[20:03] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: and apt-get -f install takes me back to the start state I think
[20:03] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: that could be difficult.. i am using a my own laptop to chat to you all..
[20:03] <Slartibartfast13> thanks CHogy and MOnkey
[20:03] <Foxy1604> so....
[20:03] <Foxy1604> ^^"
[20:03] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Just type really fast.
[20:03] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: does it?  exact same packages?
[20:03] <Foxy1604> lib
[20:03] <Foxy1604> oops
[20:04] <alicewand> Does anyone know how to get the f2c i386 library to work with gfortran on Ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/q/522526
[20:04] <Foxy1604> i can send a pic.. :3
[20:04] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/nsdEas15
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> alicewand  it says here, gfortran is gcc relatede ... are you a developer
[20:05] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: maybe try: dpkg --remove on the two packages.  If that doesn't work, dpkg --remove --force-all.   When it does work, apt-get install -f
[20:05] <alicewand> I'm a grad student
[20:05] <alicewand> trying to get some old fortran code to work for some physics problems
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> alicewand  you need it for development?
[20:06] <alicewand> I do need to run the fortran, and the fortran is f77
[20:06] <alicewand> I have some computer background
[20:07] <ChogyDan> alicewand: off hand suggestion, install a virtualmachine, and run a 32bit version of ubuntu.
[20:07] <SleepyPi1achu> ChogyDan: You're a hero. Thanks :-)
[20:07] <Slartibartfast13> the command did not work.....here are the results....
[20:07] <Slartibartfast13> ./ol.x86-64.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:07] <ChogyDan> SleepyPi1achu: yw
[20:07] <SleepyPi1achu> ikonia: Thanks for your input also. :-)
[20:08] <alicewand> So basically I need a 32 bit ubuntu
[20:08] <alicewand> or else it won't work
[20:08] <Slartibartfast13> is there a way to execute the file by using the Dolphin file manager?
[20:09] <fdisk122> Startibartfast13: Why are you trying to execute that file?
[20:09] <trism> alicewand: you have a capital L on the cuba lib, don't you want -lcuba ?
[20:09] <alicewand> trism, cuba is a directory
[20:09] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: here ya go!!
[20:09] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: http://nl.tinypic.com/r/25zjgvb/8
[20:09] <alicewand> trism, I thought a directory needs a capital L
[20:09] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: i hope it helps :3
[20:10] <Guest8610> Slartibartfast13, maybe +x flag missed on your file? chmod +x ?
[20:10] <fdisk122> He doesn't have the correct dependencies or something it seems
[20:10] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev
[20:11] <Slartibartfast13> yeah, smn told me that chmod +x command may not work if you got more than one bin file in that directory
[20:11] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: I'll check out the error now it's loading
[20:11] <trism> alicewand: I just ask because it is looking for a symbol from the cuba lib according to a quick google search
[20:11] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: kay!
[20:11] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: can you install pastebinit?
[20:11] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122 Keep in mind I am running a live Kubuntu CD.  Will those commands still work?
[20:12] <alicewand> trism, I'm new to all this, should I have a small l then?
[20:12] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Possibly, depending on your computer's RAM
[20:12] <trism> alicewand: would give it a shot, do you have libcuba3-dev installed?
[20:12] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: if i could.. it does not let me install me anything.. (even apt-get install -f) does nothing
[20:12] <Slartibartfast13> Is that all one huge comnmand line, fdisk122  ?
[20:12] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: what is the error when you try pastebinit?
[20:13] <alicewand> if I put -lcuba, it says it can't find -lcuba
[20:13] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: yes
[20:13] <trism> alicewand: do you have libcuba3-dev installed?
[20:13] <alicewand> trism, I guess not
[20:13] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: that the install has failed and that i should try -f (which i already used x3)
[20:14] <alicewand> trism, should I get libcuba3:i386 or libcuba3-dev:i386
[20:14] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: what is the error when you do -f?
[20:14] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: let me see.. just a sec ;)
[20:14] <trism> alicewand: you would need the -dev one
[20:15] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: What command did you run when it gave you those packages? Was that dpkg --configure?
[20:15] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: yes ;)
[20:15] <alicewand> trism, do you know the reason to use dev? because would I need devs for other stuff as well then?
[20:16] <ChogyDan> it is dpkg --configure -a
[20:16] <yano> what command can i run to make ubuntu pop up with the "Add Printer" dialog?
[20:16] <yano> i'm not using any of the default stock DEs
[20:17] <yano> and cups is being a pita with authentication
[20:17] <yano> (i've tried editing the cups config directly and restarting it and nothing is actually changing on localhost:631)
[20:18] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122, I ran the command and it installed a whole bunch of stuff, is all that for the game?
[20:18] <Slartibartfast13> I think it installed 186 MB of data
[20:19] <alami> hello, xrldp work only if i have install xfce?
[20:19] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122, so what do I do next, try running the game?
[20:19] <mjrosenb> hey, all.  I'm trying to re-install a kernel on my pandaboard, and it looks like it isn't running the postinst hooks necessary to get a new kernel.
[20:19] <mjrosenb> any idea how to figure out what is wrong?
[20:19] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: yes, try again
[20:20] <yano> found it, system-config-printer
[20:20] <ChogyDan> alicewand: -devs are for compiling, non -dev is for running
[20:20] <Slartibartfast13> or do I still need to execute that file called ol.x86-64.linux.bin, fdisk122 ?
[20:20] <trism> alicewand: you might only need the lib, since you don't seem to need the header, and just pass the full path to the libcuba.so.3 lib instead of -lcuba, the -dev package just creates a link to libcuba.so
[20:20] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: That should be the game I think
[20:21] <Slartibartfast13> Do I still need to execute that bin file, fdisk122 ?
[20:21] <alicewand> trism, what is the full path to libcuba.so.3?
[20:21] <alami> can any one help with xrldp Problem?
[20:21] <trism> alicewand: dpkg -L libcuba3:i386
[20:21] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: yes I believe so
[20:21] <metaphysician> Alert: Invalid archive signature: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release
[20:22] <metaphysician> BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[20:22] <Slartibartfast13> ./ol.x86-64.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_net-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:22] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122
[20:23] <alicewand> trism, I have a lot /usr/lib /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcuba.so.3.0 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcuba.so.3
[20:23] <alami> how can i remote desktop a ubuntu box using rdp Protocol
[20:23] <TingbadiuPiu> Im thinking of switching from xp to linux because the only game i play is counter strike 1.6 and it got native linux port now. However my computer has only single core cpu and geforce 6800GT. It runs cs at 75+fps constantly, in the cs shop page it shows that the linux version requires much highers specs- is that really true or did valve make a mistake with that?
[20:23] <TingbadiuPiu> Ps. if the linux version doesnt require more power, will the open source gpu driver suffice or do i need proprietary one?
[20:24] <trism> alicewand: gfortran -m32 -O -o out10 MBpart1ep0.f -L. -lmathlib -lkernlib -lf2c /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcuba.so.3;
[20:24] <ChogyDan> Slartibartfast13: have you installed libsdl?
[20:25] <Slartibartfast13> yes, his command worked, ChogyDan
[20:25] <alicewand> trism, I still get the same error: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/../../../libf2c.so: undefined reference to `MAIN__' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Z(
[20:25] <alicewand> ignore the Z( at the end
[20:25] <metaphysician> Never mind, transient mirror problem. Resolved on refresh.
[20:25] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Someone wrote a shell script for that: http://www.other-life.com/forums/index.php?/topic/204-installing-the-linux-client-under-ubuntu/
[20:26] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: What were the results of apt-get upgrade? the dkpg --configure output as far as I can tell is actually somewhat normal
[20:27] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: after a reboot it say's that the pakkage plymouth needs to be reinstalled..
[20:28] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: (before it sad that it had unmet depencies)
[20:28] <RyouOtaku> !list
[20:29] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: I like this command for cleanup:`sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^`          the ^ makes it a tasksel kind of thing
[20:29] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: I think ChogyDan has the right command, otherwise you may have to do `sudo apt-get install --reinstall plymouth`
[20:29] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk, not sure if that willl work because I am running Kubuntu 14.04 live disk on a Pavilion PC that uses NVIDIA graphics
[20:30] <mjrosenb> so, nobody knows about what apt-get --reinstall does with a kernel?
[20:30] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Maybe this is a crazy suggestion but how far out is it for you to partition the drive in your box and make a hard install of linux?
[20:30] <fdisk122> mjrosenb: nope I actually have no idea
[20:30] <ChogyDan> mjrosenb: probably reinstalls the files, re updates grub, rechecks dkms
[20:31] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122, are you talking about creating a dual boot system or a virtual machine?
[20:31] <Foxy1604> fdisk122: ChogyDan kay!! but it still say's that plymouth needs to be reinstalled but the laptop cannot find the package.. xP
[20:31] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: can you install pastebinit?
[20:32] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: no sorry.. still the plymouth error
[20:32] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: A dualboot
[20:32] <Slartibartfast13> I already talked about both those options, and came to the conclusion   that I should keep Kubuntu and Windows XP running on separate PCs, fdisk122
[20:32] <Foxy1604> but i'l guess i call it a day.. ;)
[20:32] <ChogyDan> Foxy1604: can you photo the error again?  :)
[20:32] <Foxy1604> need to get up early :)
[20:32] <Foxy1604> bye bye
[20:32] <Foxy1604> ChogyDan: tomorrow ;)
[20:32] <fdisk122> Foxy1604: Good luck! Bye
[20:33] <ChogyDan> gl
[20:33] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: That shell script is probably the best bet either way. I'm a big fan of dualbooting though.
[20:34] <alami> no one here can help?
[20:34] <Slartibartfast13> those guys convinced me that dual booting requires maintenance and troubleshooting skills beyond my knowledge and expertise
[20:34] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: I'm using a school computer that I installed a secondary partition onto
[20:34] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: nobody else even KNOWS about the partition and it still works
[20:35] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: That's how low maintenance it is
[20:35] <Slartibartfast13> fdisk122:  What is the native OS running on that school PC?
[20:35] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Windows 7
[20:35] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: I think that was a false deduction on your part, based on BluesKaj and myself discussing various issues with dual-boot vs VM use for a Windows + Ubuntu installation.
[20:36] <Slartibartfast13> This PC has Windows XP installed on it
[20:36] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: The host OS wasn't affected at all except a little bit of drive space being eaten up by my partition. All their accounts, domain setup, networking etc. is not affected
[20:36] <Slartibartfast13> Yes, it was them, BluesKaj and TJ
[20:37] <trism> alicewand: is the MBpart1ep0.f file something you could pastebin or add to the askubuntu post?
[20:37] <fdisk122> Slartibartfast13: Windows XP is also based on NTFS and the partition will resize in the same way as Windows 7. The only reason not to do it is if you don't have enough extra disk space
[20:38] <mjrosenb> ok, well, my issue is that there are some post-hooks that are /supposed/ to be run, and are not being run.
[20:38] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: Our discussion ws focused on whether, with a VM basis, Windows or Ubuntu should be the bare-metal OS. I was making the point that if the Windows programs intended to be used require hardware 3D acceleration, then Windows as the bare-metal OS and Linux in VMs would be better than Linux as bare-metal OS with Windows in VM
[20:38] <mjrosenb> and I suspect one of the post hooks is responsible for actually putting the new kernel in place.
[20:38] <mjrosenb> I guess I can try removing and re-installing the kernel?
[20:39] <Slartibartfast13> But I thought I heard someone say there would be problems if I try creating a duel boot system.  Someone warned me against it
[20:39] <alicewand> trism, here: http://pastebin.com/hgML3TXi  http://mbtools.hepforge.org/
[20:40] <Slartibartfast13> May be the only problem is that WIndows XP is no longer supported or secure.  Is that the only problem with my proposed duel boot system?
[20:40] <mjrosenb> Slartibartfast13: *dual, and it very much can work, just setting it up sometimes requires a bit of effort.
[20:41] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: Dual boots once set up are fine - we were talking about how with Legacy BIOS systems multiple OSs have to 'fight' for who gets control of the MBR sector 0 of the boot disk - the preferred installation order is Windows first, then Linux+GRUB so GRUB then acts as boot-loader for both Linux and Windows.
[20:41] <mjrosenb> Slartibartfast13: unless you plan on running both operating systems at the same time, and see which one kills the other first.
[20:41] <TJ-> Slart_: If Windows is installed after Linux+GRUB, it replaces GRUB's MBR boot-strap code in sector 0 with the Windows boot-strap code, and then there is no way to boot Linux
[20:42] <MonkDAcez> then you use a live linux usb and reinstall grub
[20:42] <Slartibartfast13> Well, Windows XP is already installed on this PC
[20:42] <mjrosenb> Slartibartfast13: also, if you have certain antiviruses installed in windows, they check the mbr, and refuse to boot windows if it isn't exactly the one that they saw when they were installed.
[20:43]  * mjrosenb ran afoul that in 2005 or so, with mcafee (mcaffee?)
[20:43] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: So, installing Ubuntu now should be fine - GRUB will become the system's boot-loader, and it will add Windows to the boot loader menu so you can choose between Ubuntu and Windows each time the system starts
[20:45] <Slartibartfast13> sounds like a great idea, TJ, but I doubt it will work that easily.  There will be troubleshooting required, I think
[20:45] <Slartibartfast13> even if I only stick to one OS at a time
[20:46] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: No more than you've been doing so far this evening; and probably a lot less, verging on nil
[20:46] <Slartibartfast13> However, this whole dual boot system idea looks very attractive now
[20:47] <Slartibartfast13> You got a link for dual boot instructions for Windows XP and Kubuntu?
[20:48] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: I tend to think any issues you have will be with the learning curve of adopting Linux/Ubuntu methodologies
[20:48] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:48] <Slartibartfast13> thanks TJ
[20:49] <TJ-> Slartibartfast13: Don't be scared by the amount of info on that page; most of it is covering contingencies and non-standard installation steps
[20:50] <Slartibartfast13> Yeah, I get it, TJ
[20:52] <inglor_> Hello - anyone can help with a quite broken system produced from upgrading from 12.04 -> 14.04 ?
[20:52] <alicewand> trism, if you get the answer, please post it on http://askubuntu.com/questions/522526/how-to-get-gfortran-to-work-with-i386-i-have-undefined-reference-errors-how, thank you SO MUCH
[20:53] <inglor_> I am in a situation of not able to fix-broken packages, and not able to install new
[20:53] <alicewand> have a great rest of the day.
[20:54] <mjrosenb> inglor_: what broke?
[20:56] <inglor_> mjrosenb, the whole desktop. when I do a `apt-get check` I get a bunch of unmet dependencies
[20:57] <mjrosenb> inglor_: my usual response is apt-get install -f
[20:57] <inglor_> yeah tried that - here's the output from `apt-get check` http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6426304
[20:59] <inglor_> mjrosenb, and the output of `apt-get install -f` http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6426325
[21:00] <TJ-> inglor_: "gir1.2-glib-2.0 : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.39.91) but 2.32.4-0ubuntu1 is installed" That is a 12.04 package going to be installed, not the 14.04 package
[21:00] <inglor_> TJ-, yeah so it seems like the upgrade is done half-way ?
[21:01] <inglor_> TJ-, Is there a way to fix it ?
[21:02] <inglor_> Also to mention that my source.list has only trusty references now
[21:03] <inglor_> and I disabled all the PPAs
[21:04] <Slartibartfast13> thanks for your help guys
[21:05] <TJ-> inglor_: I'm not entirely sure; I've got systems out of that state in the past but I can't say I could put my finger on precisely which action got the fix working
[21:05] <Slartibartfast13> so, everything in my HOme directory will get wiped when I reboot out of the live CD?
[21:07] <inglor_> Slartibartfast13, yes
[21:11] <hichris123> Grr, still having problems with '__NR_*' from compiling clang.
[21:20] <Moony22> WOW
[21:20] <Moony22> 1707 nicks
[21:21] <Slartibartfast13> thanks inglor
[21:28] <Pyro_Killer> hello everyone, I have installed ubuntu 14.04 minimalist on a desktop, and I want to reinstalll it, however when I boot from the USB key it runs me straight in to the grub of the disk and I can't seem to reinstall, the disk is disabled from boot in the bios
[21:28] <janusz__> Good evening dear professionals.
[21:30] <ikonia> Pyro_Killer: how many non-usb disks are in the system ?
[21:30] <Pyro_Killer> ikonia: one
[21:31] <ikonia> Pyro_Killer: so if there is only 1 disk in the system, that means that has to have the boot sector on
[21:31] <Pyro_Killer> wait, sod I might be back... MBR is written to the wrong bleeding disk i think
[21:31] <ikonia> Pyro_Killer: so either a.) you've not disabled it as a boot device in the bios b.) your bios is faulty
[21:31] <ikonia> wrong disk ?
[21:31] <ikonia> you said there is only 1 disk in it
[21:32] <Pyro_Killer> to my USB stick
[21:32] <ikonia> errr that has to have a valid boot sector on to boot the livecd from it
[21:32] <ikonia> if you can boot without the usb disk in - then you know the OS is booting from the disk
[21:33] <Pyro_Killer> it didn't
[21:33] <ikonia> it didn't boot ?
[21:34] <Pyro_Killer> it only booted when the usb was selected as 1st boot disk
[21:34] <ikonia> so you have your answer then
[21:34] <Pyro_Killer> I did a derp
[21:36] <Pyro_Killer> on another note, does anyone have a fairly simple way of getting 14.04 on to a wpa2 through CLI
[21:36] <Pyro_Killer> the installer has no problem connecting, but once I booted up it will not connect
[21:37] <ikonia> wpa_suplicant
[21:37] <ikonia> network manager command line
[21:37] <ikonia> why do you need the command line ?
[21:37] <ikonia> just use network manager as it's designed to be used
[21:37] <rberg_> man nmcli
[21:37] <ikonia> the dekstop application is excellent
[21:37] <Pyro_Killer> thank you rberg_
[21:37] <rberg_> somethineg like 'nmcli dev wifi con "Cafe Hotspot 1" password caffeine name "My cafe"'
[21:40] <Pyro_Killer> does it have an "autoconnect" where it starts up automatically and connects to whatever is available?
[21:40] <rberg_> yeah, not sure how you set that from the cli as I mostly use the gui
[21:41] <jhutchins> Pyro_Killer: If it's a static network you can put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:41] <jhutchins> Pyro_Killer: Are you thinking of a mode where it has multiple networks configured and joins whatever one becomes available?
[21:42] <rberg_> 'nmcli -f GENERAL,WIFI-PROPERTIES dev list iface wlan0' shows GENERAL.AUTOCONNECT: yes
[21:43] <mjrosenb> does anyone know why the kernel's postinst hooks would not be run?
[21:47] <Guest96743> hi
[21:50] <Donquichotte18> hi
[21:50] <robertbellarmine> Hello, I notice that there are Ubuntu Studio meta packages for lots of professional software for audio, video, image editing etc... There are also debian science based packages, now what I am wondering if there is something similar for programming to get all the packages for IDE and all the different programming language libraries
[21:52] <netlar> I am getting screen freeze when I try to use gnome do. I am on 14.04 Unity.
[21:52] <Guest96743> hı
[21:52] <netlar> Plus it is in my startup apps and does not load when I start Ubuntu.  Is that app buggy for Unity?
[21:53] <Guest96743> ı am using ubuntu on my computer ! ı am new user :) but ı dont know about ubuntu ! what do you advise to me ?
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Guest96743 start here
[22:00] <netlar> Should I just reinstall gnome do, to fix it?
[22:00] <Ben64> netlar: what is gnome do
[22:01] <netlar> Ben64: http://do.cooperteam.net/download.shtml
[22:01] <netlar> Ben64: It is an app that lets you do quick searches
[22:02] <Ben64> if thats where you got it, you're on your own
[22:02] <netlar> Well that is there website, but loaded it from software center , no ppa
[22:03] <netlar> It is in the repository
[22:04] <Ben64> it may not work with unity, since it has "gnome" in the name, and unity isn't very gnome-y
[22:04] <netlar> Ben64: Yea, so I am not sure how that works, I thought most gnome stuff works with Unity
[22:05] <netlar> Ben64: I thought Unity was a fork of gnome, or am I mistaken
[22:11] <netlar> Well anyway I removed it
[22:16] <havarka> hi, why fresh installation of ubuntu has a 12GB??? what could that be?
[22:16] <k1l> havarka: what 12gb?
[22:16] <ObrienDave> 12GB of what?
[22:17] <havarka> i just installed ubuntu and it does need 12GB of hdd
[22:17] <ObrienDave> how much swap did you assign?
[22:18] <k1l> well. what do you expect? is this a minimal install?
[22:18] <havarka> i do not know, like 6 ? .. no its lubuntu
[22:19] <ObrienDave> ok, Lubuntu IS Ubuntu with a different DE. so, 6GB swap + 6GB install = 12 GB
[22:19] <JanC> no default Ubuntu install uses 6 GiB
[22:19] <havarka> but i do have a swap partition on separate partition
[22:20] <JanC> I think most are still under 3 GB
[22:20] <havarka> ok, so whats going on?
[22:21] <phill_> could anyone help with Preseed and kernel parameters for the ath9k - Boots fine after load, but not for preseed load... thanks
[22:21] <ObrienDave> havarka, probably nothing is going on
[22:22] <havarka> obrienDave, i dont know, but it seems to be too too much
[22:22] <k1l> havarka: so it did choose 12GB in the automatic installer and you are not fine with it?
[22:22] <ObrienDave> havarka, does it work as expected?
[22:22] <JanC> havarka: where do you see that 6 GB?
[22:23] <k1l> havarka: is it only / or /home included? and how much is it filled?
[22:23] <k1l> havarka: please give us full info on what the real issue is. as of just that statement i cant see what should be wrong there
[22:23] <havarka> no, i gave it 22 GB partition and 9.4GB is free
[22:23] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[22:24] <havarka> there is nothing in home, i keep personal stuff in different places
[22:24] <HikaruBG> how can I disable the mouse-wake-up function for Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[22:24] <k1l> havarka: so "df -h" does tell you what?
[22:24] <HikaruBG> I don't want the mouse to be able to wake up my laptop when the lid is closed
[22:25] <JanC> isn't ta a hardware thing?
[22:25] <JanC> HikaruBG: check your BIOS/UEFI config?
[22:25] <klys> mouse is not in bios configs
[22:26] <HikaruBG> the BIOS? doesn't sound right JanC
[22:26] <TJ-> HikaruBG: IS it a USB or PS/2 mouse?
[22:26] <havarka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8313455/
[22:26] <JanC> USB HID wake-up
[22:26] <HikaruBG> USB Bluetooth mouse HP
[22:26] <HikaruBG> TJ-, USB Bluetooth mouse HP
[22:26] <TJ-> HikaruBG: There'll be a firmware setting to enable/disable various wake-ups, including by USB device, in the ACPI/power management section of the firmware setup
[22:28] <HikaruBG> TJ-, is the firmware setup accessible from the regular Ubuntu System Settings?
[22:28] <HikaruBG> I looked there and didn't see mouse wakeup option
[22:28] <ObrienDave> havarka, something isn't right. the numbers under sda6 don't add up to 22GB
[22:29] <waykool99> anybody notice a suspicious Folder names with about 10 numbers under /home/myname, you can't open it or Delete it as root. but you can re-name the folder?
[22:29] <havarka> sry guys, i had two iso`s in bin :/
[22:29] <ObrienDave> havarka, that will do it LOL
[22:29] <havarka> yeah
[22:29] <havarka> at least i learned new cmd
[22:30] <ObrienDave> there's always a plus
[22:30] <Ben64> waykool99: nope
[22:30] <TJ-> HikaruBG: No, firmware setup is only accessible at boot-time just after power-on, usually there's a key such as F2 to press to enter setup
[22:30] <waykool99> ClamAV finds nothing wrong with it but I do. when you can't open contents as 'root', raises red flags.
[22:31] <HikaruBG> Oh, that ...  I see ... let me take a look - will be right back
[22:31] <waykool99> and can't delete the folder
[22:31] <Ben64> waykool99: well pastebin some info
[22:31] <mattxtn> waykool are they encrypted /home files?
[22:31] <ObrienDave> a screenshot would help
[22:32] <waykool99> no idea. hourglass freezes forever trying to open that folder.
[22:32] <waykool99> BUT you can re-name it.
[22:32] <mattxtn> pastebin or screenshot what you are seeing
[22:32] <Ben64> stop giving us stories and post some actual information
[22:32] <TJ-> waykool99: Use the terminal, not GUI programs.
[22:33] <waykool99> TJ, good idea. i'll try that now.
[22:33] <TJ-> Sounds to me like  a corrupted file-system with an inode loop
[22:33] <Ben64> waykool99: if you havent been using terminal, how did you try to delete or open it using root
[22:34] <dw1> anyone know how to make perfectly round circles with the Shutter ellipse tool?
[22:34] <ObrienDave> dw1 keep the drag line at 45 degrees
[22:35] <HikaruBG> TJ-, no settings for the USB mouse in the firmware settings.
[22:35] <dw1> ObrienDave: yeah but its not obvious theres no display for it :/
[22:35] <HikaruBG> any ideas how to configure this from Ubuntu?
[22:36] <TJ-> HikaruBG: It won't mention mouse, it'll be something like "Wake on USB"
[22:36] <waykool99> using sudo /home/me/HighlySuspciousFolder# dir, it freezes in Terminal.\
[22:36] <mykey> Im having issues with my disc drive...can anyone help?
[22:36] <waykool99> i rename the foldeer
[22:36] <HikaruBG> TJ-, I see - it only has Boot from external devices available. Really offers very limited options.
[22:36] <ObrienDave> dw1, eyeball is close enough. screen pixels are usually a 1:1 ratio. close enough to eyeball
[22:37] <Ben64> waykool99: if you havent been using terminal, how did you try to delete or open it using root
[22:37] <dw1> ObrienDave: .. they should have a feature where you hold Ctrl or somethin'. guess ill find the suggestion box
[22:37] <mykey> anyone?
[22:37] <Ben64> waykool99: and you can't sudo a folder... pastebin stuff like "ls"
[22:37] <Ben64> mykey: you'll need to ask a question before receiving assistance
[22:37] <ObrienDave> !patience | mykey
[22:38] <ObrienDave> !ask | mykey
[22:38] <mykey> cd/dvd drive wont mount ofter being ejected...
[22:38] <Ben64> waykool99: wow, don't login as root in gui!
[22:38] <mykey> how can I make sure this doesn't keep happening
[22:38] <dw1> ObrienDave: actually Ctrl holds the current dimensions, so i could eyeball it small and then expand ....
[22:38] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Weird. You might be able to control it via the sysfs, via the usb controller/port's "power/wakeup" node
[22:38] <HikaruBG> OK - let me check that
[22:38] <ObrienDave> dw1, there ya go :)
[22:39] <Ben64> !pm | waykool99
[22:39] <mykey> Ive reinstalled because I gave up on it but I did it again...all I did was click on the eject button and now nothing mounts
[22:39] <TJ-> HikaruBG: If you can identify which device the mouse is in sysfs, then "echo disabled > /sys/devices/...../power/wakeup" should stop it waking up
[22:40] <mykey> usb does but my disc drive is usless now
[22:40] <Ben64> waykool99: seriously, STOP pm'ing me
[22:40] <ObrienDave> mykey, are ther similar problems under a different OS?
[22:41] <Pyro_Killer> I installed the MBR to the wrong disk, how does one write the MBR to the other disk?
[22:41] <HikaruBG> Thanks TJ-
[22:41] <smw> Pyro_Killer, grub-install
[22:41] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Do you see the device name in the output of this command "cat /sys/class/input/mouse?/device/name" ?
[22:42] <mykey> Not that I recall...
[22:42] <TJ-> HikaruBG: If you do, which line 1st, 2nd, 3rd ...?
[22:42] <mykey> just wonder why if i eject a cd/dvd it wont mount the entire drive again
[22:43] <Ben64> mykey: insert a new cd/dvd you'd like to mount, then pastebin the output of "dmesg"
[22:43] <HikaruBG> yep, TJ- mouse3 shows: "HP HP Link-5 micro dongle"
[22:43] <mykey> will do one sec
[22:44] <TJ-> HikaruBG: OK ...
[22:44] <mykey> um that is alot
[22:44] <ObrienDave> mykey, check under "removable drives and media" there is an auto-mount setting there
[22:45] <TJ-> HikaruBG: I'm looking for the easy way to link the mouse to the USB port :)
[22:46] <mykey> Cant locate "removable drives and media"...how do I find it?
[22:47] <ObrienDave> mykey, i'm in Xubuntu. your settings might be different
[22:48] <HikaruBG> OK thanks guys - this is irrelevant :) will deal with it later. Thanks TJ-
[22:49] <ObrienDave> waykool99, are you going to pastebin some stuff for us to look at?
[22:49] <ObrienDave> or continue to irritate people trying to help you for free?
[22:50] <mykey> 00 mBm) [  297.557139] cfg80211:   (5735000 KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm) [  297.559603] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 30:46:9a:a1:53:9a (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=4) [  297.565397] wlan0: associated [  603.424129] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci [  603.557549] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=071a [  603.557562] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialN
[22:50] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | mykey
[22:52] <anivair> Hi there, anyone know anything about NoMachine?  I'm in a bind here.
[22:52] <anivair> I've been using nxclient for a while. Someone was kind enough to install on the wrong architecture and NoMachine won't connect to my nx server
[22:54] <ObrienDave> anivair, and this relates to Ubuntu support how?
[22:54] <anivair> Sorry, the client an sever are both ubuntu machines. We run an ubuntu shop here mostly.
[22:54] <anivair> I should have specified
[22:55] <anivair> client is 14.04. server is 13.04
[22:55] <ubuntu_> hi
[22:56] <ubuntu_> hi
[23:00] <daftykins> anivair: then you know 13.04 is EOL? :)
[23:00] <anivair> I do.  Sadly, I don't have any control over that but just yet.
[23:00] <anivair> I'm just trying to coble what they have here for one user
[23:00] <anivair> the nx server still works fine
[23:01] <anivair> an older nxclient connects fine as well
[23:01] <anivair> but nomachine does not
[23:01] <daftykins> !enter
[23:01] <daftykins> ugh more deletions
[23:01] <anivair> odly
[23:01] <anivair> (oddly, even)
[23:06] <TJ-> HikaruBG: this should work:  "  MOUSE=mouse3; DP="/sys$(udevadm info --query path --path /class/input/$MOUSE)"; while [ -n "$DP" ]; echo $DP; do W="$DP/power/wakeup"; if [ -f $W ]; then echo $W; echo disabled | sudo tee $W; break; fi; DP=${DP%/*}; done  "
[23:09] <esperantz> tox
[23:18] <Bobbo__> Hi. Could someone help me get ubuntu running on a laptop please? It seems to work from a live USB, but then won't boot after the first time. =/
[23:18] <jiohdi> it wont boot from the usb after the first time?
[23:19] <Bobbo__> No, it won't boot from the hard drive from the first time.
[23:19] <ObrienDave> dual boot?
[23:19] <Bobbo__> Like, uhh. I do the installation, I click to reboot now and it boots fine. But if I restart afterwards it won't.
[23:19] <Bobbo__> No
[23:20] <ObrienDave> what do you get?
[23:20] <jiohdi> black screen? does alt-ctrl-f1 give you a terminal?
[23:20] <Bobbo__> It falls through to trying to boot from the network device.
[23:21] <Bobbo__> Like, it doesn't even know the hard drive has bootable content on it.
[23:21] <rellis> Anyone know of a way in sh (dash) to pass this string as a single argument to a program? JAVA_OPTS="${JAVA_OPTS} -XX:OnError=\"kill\ -9\ %p\""
[23:21] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Between the time it boots correctly and the time it doesn't, do you remove any USB flash storage device?
[23:21] <ObrienDave> check your BIOS settings
[23:21] <rellis> the spaces in the kill command make it end up as multiple arguments when it should be one
[23:22] <Bobbo__> TJ-: No. I removed the flash drive during the first shutdown.
[23:22] <ObrienDave> it can't parse nested quotes
[23:22] <Bobbo__> ObrienDave: Anything more specific, I've already been in there... But it's a Toshiba Satellite S50 and there isn't much I can do. =/
[23:22] <jiohdi> Bobbo__, what happens on the screen when you boot?
[23:23] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Does the system have UEFI firmware?
[23:23] <ObrienDave> Bobbo__, look at the boot order. CD/DVD 1st, USB drive 2nd, Internal drive 3rd.
[23:24] <Bobbo__> jiohdi: Toshiba splash, some black and then network boot stuff
[23:24] <Metaliinuxite> hey guys
[23:24] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Yes
[23:25] <Bobbo__> ObrienDave: It's in USB, CD, HDD, network iirc.
[23:25] <Bobbo__> Possibly CD and USB other way around, either way it's definitely in the right order to boot from HDD (I ain't that foolish)
[23:25] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Did it install in UEFI mode then try to boot in CSM legacy mode, or visa-versa?
[23:25] <Bobbo__> What's CSM?
[23:25] <Metaliinuxite> so i deleted my partition table from gparted (all ntfs) and i boot up Ubuntu Live and all the drives are listed properly!! now how do i write that partition table to my drive?
[23:25] <Bobbo__> (Probably not)
[23:26] <Metaliinuxite> i tried gpart but it just hangs at the "begin scan" part
[23:26] <Metaliinuxite> and I don't like testdisk because a reboot is necessary
[23:26] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Compatibility Support Module, the part of UEFI that handles old-style (Legacy) BIOS boot
[23:27] <Metaliinuxite> Ubuntu figured the parition table perfectly, but how do I make it permanent?
[23:27] <Metaliinuxite> *partition
[23:28] <Bobbo__> Just checked bios; secure boot is disabled, boot mode is UEFI.
[23:28] <Guest32543> hi i am using recordmy desktop, but i cant record my sound from my usb mic
[23:28] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, and is there an "Ubuntu" entry in the UEFI boot menu? If not, it's been installed in CSM legacy mode
[23:29] <havarka> Metaliinuxite, what do you mean did you installed it? or You on LiveCD?
[23:29] <Bobbo__> Um, what boot menu?
[23:29] <Metaliinuxite> havarka: live cd
[23:30] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Maybe I should of clarified, I don't even get to grub. It's like the bios thinks the HDD isn't bootable.
[23:34] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That is what I'd expect. If Ubuntu was installed in Legacy mode (meaning the installer was started in that mode), then if the system doesn't have CSM enabled it won't try to boot via an MBR boot-strap. The opposite is also possible: if Ubuntu was installed in EFI mode and added itself to the UEFI boot manager (through the efibootmgr program), then it is possible the UEFI firmware has 'lost' the entry due to some firmware bug.
[23:34] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Boot the Live ISO again, then use "Try Ubuntu" and we can investigate
[23:35] <TJ-> Bobbo__: This illustration might help you understand better: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/
[23:39] <Bobbo__> TJ-: That looks freaking complicated, heh.
[23:39] <Bobbo__> okay. So I'm in the try ubuntu thingy.
[23:40] <TJ-> Bobbo__: but it shows how minor differences can cause problems, and roughly where they're caused based on how far the system gets
[23:41] <Bobbo__> Okay; so where do we start investigating? L3
[23:42] <TJ-> Bobbo__: First, start a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) so we can type commands in the shell
[23:43] <jponc_> hi guys
[23:43] <Bobbo__> TJ-: I'm not new to linux, just this laptop. I'm reasonably command savvy, btw
[23:43] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Yay! saves me some typing :)
[23:43] <Bobbo__> :)
[23:43] <TJ-> Bobbo__: "ls /sys/firmware/" ... is there a "efi/" directory?
[23:43] <HikaruBG> Well well... :) I need now to setup a secured file server
[23:43] <Bobbo__> yes
[23:44] <HikaruBG> on Ubuntu
[23:44] <TJ-> Bobbo__: In that directory are there others, including efivars/ ?
[23:44] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Yes
[23:44] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That tells us the system booted in UEFI mode.
[23:44] <jponc_> Any new news regarding ubuntu? :D
[23:44] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That could be useful later once we look at the installed system, in terms of what we need to do to repair it
[23:47] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, now lets find out what block devices there are: "pastebinit < <(sudo lsblk)"
[23:47] <Bobbo__> dling pastebinit first.
[23:48] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK :)
[23:49] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8313984
[23:50] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, so sda will be the installed system. "pastebinit < <(sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print)"
[23:51] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314003
[23:52] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, It's GPT and partition #1 is FAT32 and is about 512MB so that'll be an EFI System Partition (ESP)
[23:53] <TJ-> Bobbo__: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sda2 /target" then check that looks like the root file-system with "ls /target"
[23:53] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Ya, that's the root fs
[23:54] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, check that "ls /target/boot/" has an "efi/" directory (that is currently empty)
[23:54] <Bobbo__> Aye, it's empty
[23:54] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Now lets check the ESP has what we expect in it: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /target/boot/efi"
[23:55] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Then "pastebinit < <(find /target/boot/efi)"
[23:56] <oniMaker> I seem to be unable to instal some common packages: E: Unable to locate package php5-curl
[23:56] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314038 -- I should clarify the extra stuff is from instructions I followed here: http://linuxontoshiba.blogspot.se/2014/05/getting-ubuntu-1404-to-boot-from.html
[23:56] <root___> hi
[23:57] <juniour> hi every one how can i get two diffent hash of same string???
[23:57] <eeee> juniour: change the salt
[23:57] <juniour> i am not using anysalt
[23:58] <juniour> eee echo "hello" |md5sum give me a hash but i check online on website, it give me different hash
[23:58] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Let's ask the motherboard's firmware what it has in its boot menu "pastebinit < <(sudo efibootmgr --verbose)"
[23:59] <Bobbo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314069