| === IdleOne is now known as io | ||
| ceasefires | Linux noob here. If I downloaded kate via terminal (apt-get), where can I find it to put it on my taskbar or run? | 03:12 |
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| ceasefires | Aside from running it in the terminal | 03:13 |
| holstein | ceasefires: you can always edit the menu and add what you like.. or add a shortcut where ever you want.. | 03:14 |
| holstein | ceasefires: you dont see it in the menu? | 03:14 |
| ceasefires | No, it isn't there. I can run it by typing "kate" in terminal though | 03:14 |
| holstein | ceasefires: i would just add one, since its a "kde" application | 03:15 |
| holstein | actually http://askubuntu.com/questions/196614/how-do-i-edit-the-menu-in-lubuntu outlines most of what i would start with | 03:16 |
| ceasefires | Okay, I'll try that out. Thanks a lot | 03:16 |
| timbba | I installed Lubuntu 14.04 and I want to remove some unnecessary programs. However almost all are trying to remove also lubuntu-desktop package.. So will it remove the whole LXDE environment by doing so? | 04:14 |
| holstein | timbba: i would.. | 04:15 |
| holstein | !mini | 04:15 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 04:15 |
| holstein | and just add lxde and whatever you like | 04:15 |
| holstein | timbba: you should be able to remove "lubuntu-desktop" though as a meta package | 04:15 |
| Unit193 | timbba: lubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, feel to remove packages that it depends on. | 04:16 |
| Unit193 | Erm, whoops. | 04:16 |
| timbba | I have lots of other programs configured manually already (compiled by myself).. so I do not want to start from scratch.. so by removing also lubuntu-desktop won't harm? So LXDE stays and it will launch graphical user interface still.. | 04:17 |
| timbba | last sentence was question | 04:18 |
| holstein | timbba: well, you lose all of that when the hard drive fails, anyways.. so i might take a minute to come up with a backup strategy that would make starting from scratch more of an easy task ..otherwise, how to remove lubuntu from lubuntu may not be a simple task | 04:18 |
| Unit193 | Right, lubuntu-desktop is just for installation time, and during upgrades. | 04:19 |
| holstein | even removing lxde apps from lxde can be challenging.. its quite lean at the start.. and the metapackage should be safe, as stated ^ | 04:19 |
| timbba | ok, thanks for the info :) | 04:19 |
| sargas | if I install lubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu 14.04, what packages do I get? | 04:22 |
| FuuqUmiist | good ones i guess | 04:23 |
| holstein | sargas: i might just add lxde | 04:23 |
| sargas | FuuqUmiist: Ikr | 04:23 |
| Unit193 | sargas: Look at the deps of it and you can see, there's also lubuntu-core. And, you can even just install the task. | 04:23 |
| sargas | thanks guys | 04:24 |
| sargas | I'll try the desktop first, I'm trying to move away from Unity on my laptop | 04:24 |
| sargas | pulseaudio is making me age twice as fast | 04:24 |
| holstein | sargas: shouldnt be | 04:25 |
| Unit193 | If you apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^ you'll get the task rather than pulling in the deps. | 04:25 |
| holstein | sargas: i would try a live CD of soemthing without pulse just to make sure its the issue.. avlinux.. for example | 04:25 |
| sargas | I know... but it along with the flash player plugin (enabled) are giving me a hard time browsing and running some java code | 04:25 |
| sargas | holstein: that's a great idea actually | 04:26 |
| Unit193 | holstein: Lubuntu doesn't come with pulse. | 04:26 |
| holstein | sargas: i really think youd' do better with a newer flash.. | 04:26 |
| holstein | yup. ^ lubuntu live, or avlinux.. something with no pulse.. | 04:26 |
| holstein | or just remove pulse from ubuntu | 04:26 |
| sargas | holstein: how do I get it, I though apt-get upgrade got the newst one | 04:26 |
| Unit193 | Mmm, yeah. Newer flash does handle some things better. | 04:26 |
| holstein | i mean, if pulse or flash are the issues, i would throw another wrench in the works by switching distro's | 04:27 |
| Unit193 | sargas: Only Chrome or Chromium get it, unless you use the experimental freshplayerplugin. | 04:27 |
| sargas | Unit193: I've heard of freshplayerplugin, and the early stages of the one Firefox is going to include in its packae | 04:28 |
| sargas | package* | 04:28 |
| holstein | sargas: the chrome flash is the only current one we get in linux | 04:28 |
| sargas | I was enjoying web dev on firefox a lot, but the lack of flash support is making it freeze on certain occasions | 04:28 |
| holstein | sargas: you can use the chrome flash in chromium.. | 04:28 |
| sargas | I see | 04:28 |
| sargas | holstein: I didn't know that | 04:29 |
| Unit193 | freshplayerplugin is a wrapper to get PPAPI plugins into NPAPI browsers, specifically pepperflash. I don't remember what Mozilla calls their decoder though. | 04:29 |
| sargas | I don't either... but I might try chromium | 04:29 |
| holstein | http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 04:29 |
| sargas | I'm trying to stay aways from Chrome's privacy rape | 04:30 |
| holstein | sargas: sure.. but, if you want flash, thats the *only* recent one | 04:30 |
| sargas | I'll get Lubuntu live on my USB drive and see what it looks like | 04:30 |
| holstein | sargas: you can use it in the chromium browser.. | 04:30 |
| Unit193 | !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | 04:30 |
| ubottu | pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) | 04:31 |
| sargas | ubottu: interesting | 04:31 |
| sargas | holstein, Unit193, ubottu: thanks for the help | 04:32 |
| Unit193 | Alrighty, have fun. | 04:33 |
| sargas | I'll get Chromium with pepperflash | 04:33 |
| sargas | then I'll try Lubuntu on a USB bootable drive | 04:34 |
| sargas | thanks again | 04:34 |
| holstein | sargas: cheers.. and good luck | 04:35 |
| === RedDeath is now known as Guest84663 | ||
| switchtehbeat | does lubuntu support gnome? | 09:08 |
| switchtehbeat | if I install this | 09:24 |
| switchtehbeat | Trusty Core will be drivers still be installed?? | 09:24 |
| switchtehbeat | I guess no one is here :/ | 09:33 |
| === Guest84663 is now known as RedDeath | ||
| * RedDeath Back | 15:25 | |
| * RedDeath Salut/Hello | 15:50 | |
| ianorlin | hi RedDeath | 15:51 |
| RedDeath | how are you? | 15:54 |
| ianorlin | good anyway I can help you? | 15:55 |
| ianorlin | this is a support channel but there is #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat | 15:55 |
| ianorlin | I am well but need to report bugs in development release so you won't have to struggle with them | 15:56 |
| ianorlin | hmm what package is the lubuntu default gtk2 theme engine in? | 16:26 |
| wxl | well it shouldn't be lubuntu specific ianorlin | 16:26 |
| ianorlin | I mean I am trying all gtk2 theme engines in repos and only the lubuntu ones do it | 16:27 |
| ianorlin | if you on utopic get a notification from xfce4-notifyd | 16:27 |
| ianorlin | at least on my intel graphics | 16:27 |
| ianorlin | but no other themes seem to reproduce it | 16:28 |
| testdr | ianorlin: you know what a "theme" is? | 16:35 |
| wxl | ianorlin: lubuntu-default-settings maybe? | 16:36 |
| wxl | ianorlin: rafaellaguna might know, too | 16:37 |
| ianorlin | he is not on right now | 16:40 |
| wxl | ianorlin: he will be :) | 16:40 |
| ianorlin | also if you open a m3u playlist in mplayer it shows double notifications for songs | 16:41 |
| === RedDeath is now known as zz_RedDeath | ||
| joppe | can you tell me how to remove steam? | 19:35 |
| phillw | joppe: how did you install it? | 19:36 |
| joppe | via deb installer from steam site | 19:36 |
| phillw | joppe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217872/how-do-i-remove-steam | 19:36 |
| joppe | it says Package 'steam:i386' is not installed, so not removed | 19:37 |
| joppe | drinks beer | 19:38 |
| joppe | steam still shows in my games folder | 19:39 |
| phillw | joppe: can you pastebin up the result of | 19:40 |
| phillw | dpkg-query -l *steam* | 19:40 |
| joppe | dpkg-query: no packages found matching *steam* | 19:41 |
| joppe | so its uninstalled.. | 19:42 |
| phillw | joppe: yup, just get rid of the ~/.steam | 19:44 |
| phillw | directory | 19:44 |
| joppe | how to get rid of my start menu /games | 19:44 |
| joppe | rid off it | 19:45 |
| phillw | joppe: I'm not too familiar with directly editing the menu system. Have a read of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2197247 wxl are you familiar with editing menu entries? | 19:48 |
| wxl | phillw: i think i know how :) what's up? | 19:51 |
| phillw | wxl: he's got rid of steam, but the menu entry remains | 19:53 |
| joppe | yep | 19:54 |
| wxl | is there a .desktop file somewhere? | 19:54 |
| joppe | where do i look for that | 19:55 |
| wxl | /usr/share/applications typically | 19:56 |
| wxl | could also be in ~/.local/share/applications | 19:56 |
| wxl | incidentially... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/EditingTheMenu ;) | 19:57 |
| wxl | note that you may have to restart lxpanel | 19:57 |
| wxl | which i think is just `lxpanelctl restart` if i remember correctly :) | 19:58 |
| joppe | how do i do that | 19:58 |
| joppe | ok | 19:58 |
| wxl | do that after you remove the desktop entry | 19:58 |
| wxl | so look for something like steam.desktop | 19:58 |
| wxl | i don't know the exact name | 19:58 |
| wxl | oh wait i can figure it out | 19:58 |
| wxl | didn't realize it was in the repos :) | 19:58 |
| wxl | /usr/share/applications/steam.desktop | 19:59 |
| joppe | it still show in my games after that | 19:59 |
| wxl | you can see all the installed files here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/i386/steam/filelist | 19:59 |
| wxl | so the steps are: | 19:59 |
| wxl | 1. remove the .desktop file | 19:59 |
| wxl | 2. restart lxpanel | 19:59 |
| wxl | you did that? | 19:59 |
| joppe | yes | 20:00 |
| wxl | was there a .desktop file there? | 20:00 |
| joppe | where? | 20:01 |
| joppe | sorry im a nood | 20:01 |
| joppe | noob | 20:01 |
| wxl | look under /usr/share/applications | 20:01 |
| wxl | the file should be called steam.desktop | 20:01 |
| joppe | nope no steam at all in there | 20:01 |
| wxl | joppe: did you look under ~/.local/share/applications? | 20:02 |
| holstein | i would check as another user.. if the other user has no steam, i would blow out whatever of my users config | 20:02 |
| joppe | joppe@joppe-desktop:~/.local/share/applications$ ls chrome-aohghmighlieiainnegkcijnfilokake-Default.desktop chrome-apdfllckaahabafndbhieahigkjlhalf-Default.desktop chrome-blpcfgokakmgnkcojhhkbfbldkacnbeo-Default.desktop chrome-coobgpohoikkiipiblmjeljniedjpjpf-Default.desktop chrome-pjkljhegncpnkpknbcohdijeoejaedia-Default.desktop google-chrome.desktop mimeapps.list steam.desktop | 20:03 |
| joppe | steam is there | 20:03 |
| wxl | joppe: so remove that steam.desktop | 20:03 |
| wxl | `rm steam.desktop` | 20:04 |
| joppe | it worked, thanks alot | 20:04 |
| wxl | np | 20:05 |
| joppe | i would buy you abeer | 20:05 |
| joppe | :) | 20:05 |
| wxl | s'ok, i don't drink | 20:05 |
| joppe | lubuntu is great | 20:06 |
| wxl | thanks joppe :) | 20:06 |
| phillw | thanks wxl :) | 20:06 |
| wxl | np phillw | 20:06 |
| wxl | amazing what i can accomplish without even being in front of lubuntu XD | 20:07 |
| joppe | wxl , are you a developer | 20:08 |
| wxl | joppe: i'm head of testing and a release manager so i'm a bit busy to help out too much with development, but i plan on learning packaging so i can help in the future. | 20:08 |
| joppe | ok, you all do a good work.. | 20:09 |
| joppe | how to get more sound? | 20:39 |
| wxl | joppe: you want to increase the volume or you have no sound? | 20:40 |
| joppe | increase, im on full now | 20:40 |
| wxl | ok so in your terminal load up `alsamixer` | 20:40 |
| wxl | it has a "master" volume as well as individual volumes for like "headphones" and "speakers" | 20:41 |
| joppe | ok | 20:41 |
| wxl | so often times you have the master all the way up but say the speakers are down lower | 20:41 |
| joppe | they are on full | 20:41 |
| wxl | just arrow over to the right one and then arrow up | 20:41 |
| wxl | they all are, huh? then that's all you got :) | 20:41 |
| joppe | :) | 20:41 |
| wxl | you can double check and make sure none of them are muted | 20:41 |
| wxl | but i doubt that's your problem | 20:41 |
| wxl | it's possible your sound card is not well supported and the driver lacks the capacity to get the volume up higher but i would find that highly unlikely | 20:42 |
| joppe | well i was on some ubuntu site and they say that you can go over 100% | 20:43 |
| wxl | iiiiii don't think so :) | 20:45 |
| joppe | pk | 20:45 |
| wxl | i'd be happy to review what you found tho | 20:45 |
| joppe | pk | 20:45 |
| joppe | ok | 20:45 |
| joppe | my mistake, they are all pre 14.04 | 20:48 |
| phillw | joppe: you may want to try swapping also for pulse audio. It can go over 100% https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio | 20:50 |
| phillw | s/also / ALSA | 20:50 |
| wxl | oh gosh don't use pulseaudio | 20:50 |
| testdr | joppe: the default in lubuntu-14.04 ist with pulseaudio and the volumecontrol called "pavucontrol" can go over 100% | 20:51 |
| wxl | joppe: DONT DO IT :) | 20:53 |
| testdr | yep - it might blow your speakers or even call the police | 20:54 |
| wxl | well pulseaudio will certainly bloat up your computer | 20:54 |
| joppe | :) | 20:54 |
| wxl | which is why lubuntu doesn't use it | 20:54 |
| testdr | wxl: i dont get your point - if someone uses the default Lubuntu-14.04 installation, then there is pulseaudio installed. | 20:55 |
| wxl | nope | 20:55 |
| === zz_RedDeath is now known as RedDeath | ||
| === RedDeath is now known as zz_RedDeath | ||
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