=== Adam_ActiveState is now known as stevejobs === stevejobs is now known as Guest62653 === Guest62653 is now known as Steve_Jobs === Steve_Jobs is now known as Steve_Jobes === Steve_Jobes is now known as Steve_Jobs [04:00] c [04:48] Good morning [05:41] morning [06:44] GoOOood morning, Ubuntu! [06:48] hey Sweetshark === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark [06:57] good morning! [07:06] morning larsu [07:09] MORNING [07:09] oops. Caps lock FTW [07:09] GOOD MORNING WILL [07:10] :D [07:13] Hey willcooke. [07:17] hi TheMuso [07:18] hey willcooke, TheMuso [07:18] morning didrocks [07:20] willcooke: caps lock is cruise control for cool ... [07:20] ... but you still have to steer ;) [07:25] :D [07:27] TheMuso, just packing my kid off to school, be with you in a couple of mins [07:27] willcooke: No worries. [07:33] TheMuso, ok, joining the hangout now === maclin_ is now known as maclin [08:03] good morning desktopers [08:03] larsu, hey, about evince, I guess we could hide the toolbar in the recently open view [08:16] larsu, the uitk icon change finally landed :-) [08:23] seb128: nice! I'll prepare the settings and unity8 branches after fixing evince theming [08:24] larsu, thanks [08:24] larsu, thanks for the evince review btw :-) [08:24] yw [08:56] popey: do you know how to ask for the canonical and ubuntu flairs on reddit? it seems that we can't comment anymore on http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/l5b3x/members_and_canonical_employees_claim_your_flair/ [08:56] didrocks: maybe ask rww (on irc) and he can do it as a mod? [08:58] thanks popey :) [09:16] Trevinho: any news on the Unity launcher bug? I'm getting it quite regularly with the number of installation I'm doing [09:56] was Laney supposed to be back today? [09:57] seb128, because of the delays he's taking another day [09:57] see UE Holiday Calendar - which is now always up to date for our team ;) [09:57] willcooke, ok, thanks [09:57] * larsu applauds willcooke [09:58] willcooke, speaking of which, is that ok if I take tomorrow off? [09:58] \o/ [09:58] thanks ;-) [09:58] seb128, sure thing [09:59] willcooke, what does "pto" stands for? [09:59] seb128, "Paid Time Off" - it's the new jam [09:59] thanks [09:59] the HR system calls it that [09:59] I think it's am Americanism [09:59] *an [10:00] personally, I like "holiday" but that has some kind of special meaning apparently [10:00] do we have UTO as well? [10:00] sounds like it... [10:02] larsu, yup [10:03] nice, thanks! [10:04] larsu, hum, your settings StatusIcon -> Icon creates issues [10:05] "issues"? [10:09] larsu, sorry, was taking screenshot [10:09] larsu, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/icons.png [10:09] larsu, without the change they are placed as they should [10:09] seb128: clearly this should not happen :D [10:10] larsu, that's what I though :p [10:10] seb128: I'll have a look after lunch [10:10] larsu, thanks [10:11] larsu, works fine if I specify width: height [10:13] seb128: I'm pretty sure you need to do this now [10:13] unless it's a rectangular icon [10:13] well, you always needed to do it with Icon, just not with StatusIcon [10:13] I missed that I guess [10:13] larsu, ok, please add that to your mp then :-) [10:13] I will, thanks [10:13] danke [10:41] woot. Mouse support now greatly improve in the U8 desktop preview [10:41] willcooke, what changed? [10:41] seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1289072 [10:41] Ubuntu bug 1289072 in unity8-desktop-session (Ubuntu) "Nested servers need cursor support" [High,In progress] [10:42] I need to upgrade that box, too many things to try between desktop, lts, rtm, next :-) [10:42] oh, nice [10:42] From my testing I can open the launcher and side stage etc with the mouse, which I don't /think/ I could do before [10:42] great [10:42] I'm going to test after lunch [10:42] outdated version, then upgrade and look at the difference ;-) [10:43] cool, seb128 if you can confirm it's better now I'll knock out another screen cast [10:43] ok === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:30] seb128, larsu chromium has overlay scrollbars in chrome://flags [11:31] they are exactly as I like them, inside the window [11:32] Cimi, indeed, but my point stands, that's not consistent between toolkits [11:32] their implementation is different from ours [11:32] Cimi: ya, those are really nice (except the animation is too slow) [11:32] Cimi: facebook has similar ones [11:32] seb128, I know it is [11:32] I like that implementation [11:32] larsu, would it be easier for us to do that, rather than we have atm? === ubot5` is now known as ubot5 [11:33] when I was asked to work on overlay scrollbars 4 years ago, I proposed them to be exactly how they are now [11:33] seb128: not sure, but I bet mpt would prefer it [11:33] seb128, larsu MUCH simpler [11:33] * seb128 hides the vodka [11:33] first of all, they are inside the window [11:34] yeah, and so no crazy X window ouside :) [11:34] so you can override the rendering [11:34] Cimi: because there's no additional window needed? [11:34] ya, makes sense [11:34] and add something on top [11:34] you just get the mouse event from GDK [11:34] well it's basically changing the scrollbar widget look dynamically [11:34] making it thin or a bit bigger [11:34] using the same filtering as it is now, but you draw within the same window [11:35] seb128, something like that [11:35] but is lot easier and simpler [11:36] only thing I can think is that a child window is still required, because it has to go on top of embedded windows like flash player or video stuff [11:36] I don't know if gtk arrived to be 100% with a single window [11:36] we just need to convince design [11:37] "just" [11:41] willcooke, JohnLea, ^ could design we convinced to do overlay-scrollbars the way facebook/chrome/etc are doing it? [11:42] e.g a small ui that turn into a scrollbar on mouse proximity, in the window (rather than a thumb outside) [11:48] * didrocks likes the 3rd arguments of Assert* in tests [11:48] nose.proxy.AssertionError: 2 != 1 : {'eclipse-adt': , 'android-studio': } [11:48] * didrocks hugs pitti for the advice! [11:49] didrocks: quoi ? [11:49] didrocks: oh, for showing the contents if the lenght isn't expected? :-) [11:49] pitti: because I'm getting more than 2 != 1 but the content as well :) [11:49] yep [11:49] didrocks: yeah, a test that goes "I fail, go figure, *smirk*" is always annoying :) [11:50] indeed, great tip on that extra arg :) [11:50] seb128, john is on holiday till october [11:50] Cimi, k === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:28] didrocks: not yet, sorry... [12:29] Trevinho: do you have any ETA? [12:29] we discussed it in may at first IIRC, that would be nice to get that fixed ;) [12:30] didrocks: Mh not yet, but soon I hope... Do you get that in trusty too, right? [12:30] Trevinho: yeah, trusty (less often), but utopic as well [12:31] Trevinho: it kind of give a bad perception of our developer tools I guess as the last step silently seems to fail for the user… [12:31] (until they logout/login) [12:45] seb128, @ scroll bars - I'll sync up with JohnLea next week and see what he says [12:45] willcooke, thanks [13:52] seb128, didrocks do you guys play Cards Against Humanity (as well as gambling and card games ;) 0 [13:52] willcooke, I played in Oakland, fun game [13:53] why? [13:53] seb128, just thinking of things to do at the sprint [13:53] apart from, ya know, work [13:53] right [13:53] team dinner? ;-) [13:54] as well as team dinner [13:54] If I buy you all beer you have to play cards with me. that's the deal [13:54] ;) [14:01] seb128, did you upgrade your u8 machine yet? No hurry, just curious [14:08] willcooke, no, get carried away on debugging qml issues, upgrade running now, thanks for the reminder ;-) [14:10] willcooke, I can see a working mouse cursor before upgrading [14:37] willcooke: buying beer is to make our non native english even more sucky? :) [14:37] seems like a strategy ;) [14:40] :D [14:41] seb128, working = you can open the launcher etc? [14:44] willcooke, yes, I can see the cursor, click on icons, dnd the launcher on the left, dnd out the right pane, display indicators, etc [14:44] seb128, hrm. I must have remembered wrongly [14:44] seb128, kk. thx === shiznix_ is now known as shiznix [14:45] yw [15:19] Laney, should I upload evince or do you want the theme/upstreaming issues to be sorted out before? [15:24] kenvandine, I think one of your changes created issues in the update panel, it starts downloading updates on opening now, even if set on "never" [15:24] ugh... it shouldn't! [15:24] that's why i added that check for download mode [15:24] kenvandine, it does it consistently for me, I rebooted the device, still doing it [15:24] :/ [15:24] ok, i'll look at it [15:24] please file a bug [15:25] kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1368294 [15:25] Ubuntu bug 1368294 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Starts downloading update on panel open when it shouldn't" [High,New] [15:25] kenvandine, let me know if you can confirm or not [15:26] seb128, will do, thanks! [15:27] thanks [16:10] seb128: do you mind running "python3 -c 'import platform; print(platform.machine())' [16:11] on your glorious 32 bits machine, please? :) [16:11] i686 [16:11] perfect, thanks! :) [16:11] yw! [16:11] * didrocks wanted to avoid running dpkg-architecture during the tests [16:22] seb128s 32 bit machine: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PFA8vX912YM/UETRgtXQBUI/AAAAAAAAAh8/zN7taxwmsvA/s1600/wooden+computer.jpg [16:23] lol [17:32] EOD - tata === ken__ is now known as kenvandine [20:51] Laney, is the gnome-session change in bzr delayed for any reason - can I make a release?