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| * slangasek waves | 15:03 | |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:03 |
| jodh | \o | 15:03 |
| mvo_ | hi | 15:03 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:04 |
| slangasek | hmm where are those bots! | 15:04 |
| slangasek | (anyone know where meetingology has gone?) | 15:04 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | huh | 15:05 |
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity mvo bhuey sil2100 robru) | 15:05 |
| slangasek | bdmurray caribou infinity bhuey jodh stgraber xnox slangasek cjwatson sil2100 barry mvo robru doko | 15:05 |
| slangasek | bdmurray is at a conference today | 15:06 |
| slangasek | caribou: | 15:06 |
| caribou | * Work on MAAS packaging issue | 15:06 |
| caribou | * DMB application for PPU on sosreport and makedumpfile - Awaiting email vote : no Quorum during the meeting | 15:06 |
| caribou | * Some kernel basic debugging | 15:06 |
| caribou | (done) | 15:06 |
| caribou | * Work on apt offline queries with mvo's help | 15:06 |
| robru | o/ | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | robru: off to bed! ;) | 15:07 |
| slangasek | infinity not here | 15:08 |
| slangasek | bhuey not here | 15:08 |
| slangasek | jodh: | 15:08 |
| jodh | * upstart | 15:09 |
| jodh | - bug 1360208: | 15:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1360208 in upstart "file watcher doesn't execute if combining ~ and * in the file description" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1360208 | 15:09 |
| jodh | - Simplified code. | 15:09 |
| jodh | - Still working on tests. | 15:09 |
| jodh | - Fixed logrotate job bug in branch which ensures logrotate runs even | 15:09 |
| jodh | if its state file is corrupt. | 15:09 |
| jodh | - Testing 1.13.2 on Touch. | 15:09 |
| jodh | - Wrote testplan for utopic sync to Touch: | 15:09 |
| jodh | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/TestPlans/upstart | 15:09 |
| jodh | * systemd-shim: | 15:09 |
| jodh | - Wrote testplan for utopic sync to Touch: | 15:09 |
| jodh | Wrote https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/TestPlans/systemd-shim | 15:09 |
| jodh | * MIR | 15:09 |
| jodh | - worked on bug 1349899. | 15:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1349899 in sparql-wrapper-python (Ubuntu) "[MIR] new b-d's of rdflib (sparql-wrapper-python, isodate)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1349899 | 15:09 |
| jodh | - raise debian bugs 760979 + 761177. | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 760979 in python-isodate "python-isodate: Version 0.5.0 available and debdiff for packaging changes." [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/760979 | 15:09 |
| jodh | - sent a few questions+suggestions to the mir-team. | 15:09 |
| jodh | * cgmanager | 15:09 |
| jodh | - Reviewing changes. | 15:09 |
| jodh | ⩩ | 15:09 |
| slangasek | stgraber: | 15:11 |
| slangasek | I'll go ahead, and we'll circle back to stgraber | 15:13 |
| slangasek | * working on systemd-shim/cgmanager updates for the current systemd APIs, sponsoring into Debian; the Debian bug report has been reopened, hallyn and desrt investigating (Debian bug #756076) | 15:13 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 756076 in systemd-shim "does not cleanup sessions when user logs out: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.systemd1.Scope'" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/756076 | 15:13 |
| slangasek | * shepherded fix for bug #1365095 into ubuntu-rtm | 15:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1365095 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu) "Greeter not asking for pin code in image 11 (krillin)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365095 | 15:13 |
| slangasek | * gave IBM feedback on debian/copyright file for java in multiverse | 15:13 |
| slangasek | * making plans to attend the cloud sprint in November | 15:13 |
| slangasek | * working to identify fat that can be trimmed from the phone rootfs - we could use better scripts for this! | 15:13 |
| slangasek | * reviewed more TI packages for the partner archive | 15:13 |
| slangasek | * still working on filling our open role - if you have good candidates you'd recommend, it's not too late for them to get their name in | 15:13 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:13 |
| stgraber | slangasek: back, network problem... | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Quite a bunch of internal meetings and working on internal projects and | 15:14 |
| stgraber | documentation, so not much I can share, sorry. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - LXC code reviews and landing a bunch of patches. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Did some FFe reviews. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Update system-image server code to hash all the custom tarballs too. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Setup some extra custom tarballs on the RTM channels. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | - Setup a Windows8 UEFI environment for ubiquity testing (bug 1265192) | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1265192 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Install/reinstall wipes out all/other partitions" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1265192 | 15:14 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:14 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: you probably should remove xnox from the list of attendees during shuffle ;) | 15:14 |
| slangasek | sil2100: yeah, I accidentally cut'n'pasted from the wrong log | 15:15 |
| slangasek | cjohnston: | 15:15 |
| slangasek | sigh | 15:15 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Coordinated libav11 transition, and cleaned up a few other bits of noise in proposed-migration. | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Helped out with getting click signature support re-landed; lots of fighting with CI Train. Fixed up a loose end in the security tests (lp:~cjwatson/qa-regression-testing/click-install-untrusted). | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Landed UbuntuKylin image changes to use their own seeds. | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Fixed Kubuntu Plasma image builds (by rebuilding kfilemetadata-kf5 against libav11 in their PPA). | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Somewhat caught up on miscellaneous reviews. | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Working on Debian #760148 (grub-mount hang); now have a test image from bug submitter, so need to sit down with a debugger and analyse it. | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 760148 in grub-common "grub-common: grub-mount hangs forever, trying to mount ext4 partition, causing 100% CPU load" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/760148 | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Working on bug 1342858. I think I have most of a fix, but need to test it locally before proposing a merge. | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1342858 in click (Ubuntu) "old click packages are not always cleaned out" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342858 | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | TODO: Set up MATE image builds; start on putting the pieces together for package acquisition in click (allowing use of ubuntu-download-manager as a plugin, but also with native support for use elsewhere). | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Annual holidays from 8th till 10th of September - nothing done during that time, so short week | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Reading up e-mails | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - CI Train maintenance and features: | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | * Finishing sync: enhancements, testing and deployment | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | * Fixing some PEP8 voilations in existing branches | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | * Unit tests for sync features | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | * Start work on some sync: corner-cases | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Reading up on PEP8 and pyflakes | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Documentation of new features and recommendations | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Patch Pilot work: | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | * Check the libgksu bug-fix release MR, comment on the fixes needed | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | * Checking libgksu FTBFS - Debian merge needed | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | (done) | 15:17 |
| barry | phone: LP: #1365646. LP: #1279970. phone phlashing phun. LP: #1365991 (discussions/triage); LP: #1367004; LP: #1283783; LP: #1367014; LP: #1367016 (actually, we won't need to MIR tox); LP: #1367028; LP: #1367041 (also won't need); LP: #1349832 (also won't need). | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1365646 in Ubuntu system image "Top Crasher: /usr/sbin/system-image-dbus:RuntimeError:_download" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365646 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1279970 in Ubuntu system image "s-i-dbus should exit on D-Bus method exceptions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1279970 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1365991 in Ubuntu system image "CancelUpdate should emit a Cancelled signal" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365991 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1367004 in python-gnupg (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-gnupg" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1367004 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1283783 in python-gnupg (Ubuntu) "Error upgrading python3-gnupg" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283783 | 15:17 |
| barry | debuntu: more git-dpm & git packaging experiments. all results have been posted to debian-python@ and i am recommending git-dpm. tox 1.7.2-1; core-cov 1.14.0-1 and debian bug #760583; syncpackage: lazr.config, tox, cov-core, lazr.delegates, lazr.smtptest, flufl.bounce | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 760583 in cov-core "cov-core should ship the generated .pth file to enable subprocess coverage tracking with nose-cov" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/760583 | 15:17 |
| barry | other: python issue 16662 (load_tests in packages) | 15:17 |
| barry | (done) | 15:17 |
| mvo_ | Busy week, gtimelog gave me a >60 line summary that I think is too | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | boring^Wlong. So the short version (unless someone wants the long | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | one in which case I'm happy to paste it too): | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | click: worked with Colin to land click 0.4.32.1 and the SDK with | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | re-enabled signed click support. This was a long and tricky landing, | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | thanks to Colin for his help with that. I also spend some time on the | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | SDK to push some drive-by fixes for issues I noticed during running | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | the (loooong) SDK testplan. Plus some (multiarch) work on using | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev:$ARCH directly to build the chroot, pushed some | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | branches for this, should be ready now. And some work to identify if a | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | binary in a click package is using libs that are not in the SDK. | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | apt/python-apt: maintenance, some bugfixes and merges | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | Also worked onr software-properties (support for apt-add-repository | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | for ubuntu-rtm), squid-deb-proxy, unattended-upgrades and uploaded new | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | versions. | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | (done) | 15:18 |
| robru | * Major ongoing overhaul of CI Train: | 15:18 |
| robru | - deleted several hundred lines of untested, *untestable* garbage glue code | 15:18 |
| robru | - implemented several forms of static code analysis, including pep8, pyflakes, and xml validation in order to detect problems before they get committed to trunk | 15:18 |
| robru | - gated MPs against lp:cupstream2distro on successful runs of the test suite | 15:18 |
| robru | - ripped out jinja2 (a templating engine) in favor of using python's builtin string.format, with new unit tests to confirm that it works as expected. | 15:18 |
| robru | - rewrote "setup-citrain" script almost from scratch, it used to be a weird big pile of spaghetti, with many functions passing many inscrutably-named arguments back and forth all over the place, into a single class with a few scrutibly-named instance attributes | 15:18 |
| robru | - many more enormous changes planned, but not yet implemented due to a couple days of illness | 15:18 |
| robru | ✓ | 15:18 |
| mvo_ | cjwatson: I'm curious about the plans for the click acquire, have you written up something somewhere about it? | 15:19 |
| doko | - openjdk-7 update for utopic and trusty, backports for precise and lucid | 15:20 |
| doko | - openjdk-8 update for utopic, backports for trusty and precise | 15:20 |
| doko | - GCC update, Linaro GCC update | 15:20 |
| doko | - NBS down to zero, looking at build regressions the other time | 15:20 |
| doko | - started test rebuild for trusty/main | 15:20 |
| doko | - valgrind update for ppc64el | 15:20 |
| doko | - MIR mentoring, finished sparql-wrapper-python | 15:20 |
| doko | - people pestering about the state of the nation^Warchive | 15:20 |
| doko | (done) | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: it is but a glimmer in my eye | 15:21 |
| jodh | doko: yes thanks for your help on the MIR! | 15:21 |
| mvo_ | :) | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | mvo_: though I rather like the apt methods architecture for this and am tempted to steal it | 15:21 |
| mvo_ | cjwatson: yeah, I think that makes sense, we could even use their transports if the protocol is compatible | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | interesting suggestion, will look into that | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | (and I don't mean that in the British way) | 15:22 |
| slangasek | any questions over status? | 15:23 |
| slangasek | btw, one thing from my status was that I'm trying to identify packages that shouldn't be on the phone | 15:23 |
| mvo_ | cjwatson: ok, please let me know if you want to offload (some of) this work | 15:23 |
| slangasek | I've thought of what I think would be a useful representation of this | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | will do | 15:23 |
| slangasek | and wonder if there's any prior art on it (so I don't go reimplementing things from scratch) | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: did I mention germinate's rdepends output? | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | though I guess that's per-package | 15:24 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ah, I don't think you mentioned it was rdepends I should look at | 15:24 |
| slangasek | so what I think I want is, for a set of packages in the image, to automatically identify individual dependencies which, if cut, would have the greatest impact on size reduction | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | rdepends gives you the complete multiply-branched backtracked tree for each package | 15:25 |
| slangasek | (greatest impact in terms of number of packages or size) | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: I would be very interested in having such a thing in germinate, and it *might* not be that hard | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | it has most of the computation you need already, I think | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | though, I'm not sure I'm volunteering to do it | 15:25 |
| slangasek | ok, I'll look at integrating it there, thanks | 15:25 |
| mvo_ | python-apt can probably simulate that for you too | 15:25 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: would we want to output this analysis by default? I'm wary of slowing down germinate runs | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | could just be controlled with an option; rdepends has such a thing (though on by default) | 15:27 |
| slangasek | hmm, the other thing is that I care about this at the image level, not necessarily at the seed level | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | for rdepends the slowness isn't the computation, but the I/O | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | well, images map pretty closely onto a set of seeds | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | analysing it for each seed would be a decent enough approximation, and you'd only have a few outputs to look at | 15:27 |
| mvo_ | slangasek: so what kind of input would you give the tool? would you want to run it for each (non-required) package on the image? each leave package? or by user choice? | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | but if it doesn't fit it doesn't fit :) | 15:28 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: a set, yes, but not an individual seed... I found trying to walk multiple seeds for the phone analysis annoying (particularly when trying to use the web output, which is the default) | 15:28 |
| slangasek | anyway, that gives me some ideas... I'll run with it now, thanks :) | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I can see that | 15:29 |
| slangasek | mvo_: I guess the input should be the set of all packages in the image, and the output would be the list of all packages with 0 or 1 reverse-dependencies on the image ordered by size impact | 15:29 |
| slangasek | #topic AOB | 15:30 |
| slangasek | anything else? | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | ideally I think you want small clusters as well, but I appreciate it gets non-trivial | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | this feels like it ought to be a standard graph analysis problem | 15:31 |
| cjwatson | weighted graph rather | 15:31 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:31 | |
| cjwatson | maybe I should break out the brick^W^WIntroduction to Algorithms | 15:31 |
| cjwatson | (hm, where did I leave my copy? none of my bookshelves appear to be bowed in the middle) | 15:32 |
| barry | ;) | 15:32 |
| slangasek | sounds like that's it today then | 15:33 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
| slangasek | thanks all :) | 15:33 |
| mvo_ | thanks | 15:33 |
| barry | thanks! | 15:34 |
| caribou | thanks! | 15:34 |
| jodh | thanks! | 15:35 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 15:35 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:37 |
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