| bduk1 | Morning Everyone | 05:24 |
|---|---|---|
| Squirm | morning | 05:56 |
| Squirm | Maaz: tell Kilos Good Morning | 06:23 |
| Maaz | Squirm: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 06:23 |
| nuvolari | o/ morning | 06:28 |
| nuvolari | oh hi Squirm | 06:28 |
| nuvolari | morning bduk1, plustwo | 06:28 |
| Squirm | morning nuvolari | 06:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 06:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | how's slaapstad treating you so far nuvolari? | 06:42 |
| nuvolari | oh hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:48 |
| nuvolari | it's treating me well thank you ThatGraemeGuy! | 06:48 |
| nuvolari | well, except for this morning's traffic :P | 06:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | luckily you just missed the really crappy weather | 06:48 |
| nuvolari | I tried to get in earlier... almost got to work at the same time as when I leave 30 minutes later | 06:48 |
| nuvolari | I'm trying to get rid of the GPS travelling from work to home and vice-versa | 06:49 |
| nuvolari | got a little lost twice :P | 06:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | where are you travelling from/to? | 06:50 |
| Kilos | morning all | 07:20 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 07:20 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy inetpro nuvolari | 07:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hi Kilos | 07:28 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 07:43 |
| Kilos | lo pro | 07:43 |
| nuvolari | oh hi oom Kilos | 07:47 |
| Kilos | fiddling with ip addy made my unity's nm-applet disappear | 07:50 |
| Kilos | grrr | 07:50 |
| Kilos | Squirm do you still have that info on how to fix the resolve conf i think it was. i lost all that when my drive crashed | 07:53 |
| Kilos | i want to find a way to change my ip to 192.168.1.1 not the 127.0.0.1 thats forced in here and cant be changed | 07:57 |
| Kilos | grrr | 07:57 |
| Squirm | Kilos: try add it here | 08:03 |
| Squirm | nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head | 08:03 |
| Squirm | nuvolari: where are you these days? | 08:04 |
| nuvolari | Squirm: Cape Town | 08:06 |
| Squirm | nice | 08:07 |
| nuvolari | for a couple of days now :P | 08:07 |
| Squirm | where abouts? | 08:07 |
| Kilos | ok lemme try | 08:08 |
| Kilos | remember Squirm DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN | 08:09 |
| Kilos | you did something last time, i dont member if it was rename or echo or what | 08:10 |
| Squirm | yes | 08:13 |
| Squirm | put it at the bottom of that file | 08:13 |
| Kilos | there is nothing in there | 08:14 |
| Spekko | morning morning Kilos, nuvolari & Squirm | 08:14 |
| Kilos | hi spekko | 08:14 |
| Squirm | what do you mean Kilos ? | 08:14 |
| Kilos | that file is empty | 08:14 |
| Squirm | maybe in /etc/resolconf/head ? | 08:14 |
| Squirm | /etc/resolvconf/head | 08:15 |
| Kilos | lemme see | 08:15 |
| Kilos | also empty | 08:15 |
| Squirm | look around there | 08:15 |
| Squirm | for the head file | 08:15 |
| Squirm | somewhere | 08:16 |
| Squirm | should be somewhere in /etc/resolvconf | 08:16 |
| Kilos | i find in root/etc/resolvconf there is resolv.conf.d | 08:18 |
| nuvolari | Squirm: Claremont/Southern suburbs | 08:20 |
| Kilos | and update.d and update-libc.d | 08:20 |
| Kilos | and interface-order | 08:20 |
| Kilos | in resolv.conf.d there is head and base files | 08:24 |
| Squirm | nuvolari: hmm... that's a little far | 08:25 |
| Squirm | I MIGHT be moving to Westlake | 08:25 |
| Kilos | The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head. | 08:27 |
| Kilos | and i did nano after sudo su | 08:28 |
| Kilos | if root cant write to it who can | 08:29 |
| Squirm | sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head | 08:32 |
| Squirm | nuvolari: I'm looking for accommodation as well | 08:33 |
| Kilos | the ip addy i put in is there but i see nothing else in there | 08:34 |
| Squirm | then that's wrong | 08:37 |
| Squirm | you have to find the head file | 08:37 |
| Kilos | i see it | 08:38 |
| Kilos | and it shows the ip i put in | 08:39 |
| Kilos | i need my ip to be that so i can access my router | 08:39 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oi what are you up to? | 08:42 |
| nuvolari | Squirm: yeah, it's quite expensive over here :-/ | 08:43 |
| nuvolari | well, I guess I'll adapt | 08:43 |
| Kilos | my router is in the 192.168.1.254 range and wont let a pc with an ip that is out of that range in | 08:43 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy you are on kde right? | 08:49 |
| Kilos | what do you see in that head file | 08:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no | 08:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what do you mean by "wont let a pc with an ip that is out of that range in" | 08:53 |
| Squirm | Kilos: what are you trying to do? change your IP address or DNS servers? | 08:54 |
| Kilos | my ip on this pc | 08:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | doesn't your pc get its IP via dhcp on the router? | 08:54 |
| Kilos | so i can tell the router to allow the server to connect with 3g | 08:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oi | 08:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok never mind | 08:55 |
| Kilos | once before i had to activate something in there to allow internet connection | 08:55 |
| Kilos | the server cant complete its install because it cant go online | 08:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | which server? | 08:57 |
| Kilos | the one im installing on a second pc | 08:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mmm | 08:58 |
| Squirm | Kilos: you can always use ifconfig to change it temporarily | 08:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its plugged in to the same router that your normal pc is? | 08:59 |
| Kilos | yes | 08:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and during setup does it automatically get an ip or do you need to configure it manually? | 08:59 |
| Kilos | i have no idea, because the install gets to where you choose a repo | 09:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | is it ubuntu server? | 09:01 |
| Kilos | yes 14.04 | 09:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | during the install at some point it will say configuring network | 09:01 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so you didn't need to do it manually | 09:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | is it still in the installation process? | 09:02 |
| Kilos | i had to fiddle and try the auto thing a few times before it passed there | 09:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | is it still in the installation process? | 09:02 |
| Kilos | nope i have it on the floor now till i get the router sorted | 09:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | meh ok, can't help then | 09:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sorry | 09:03 |
| Kilos | np | 09:03 |
| Kilos | ill change them over. i put xp there to see if i could get in to the router and that works so now i can change it back if i can just get this pc to get into the router | 09:04 |
| Kilos | thats why i want to change my ip addy | 09:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: you have a strong tendency to try and troubleshoot something and come to some idea of what the fix is in your head, when sometimes maybe you made an earlier assumption or misunderstanding | 09:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and then you come asking how to do "X", when a lot of the time you shouldn't even be messing with X | 09:06 |
| Kilos | could be, my head dont work good | 09:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | in this instance i'm not understanding at all why you need to change your IP | 09:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | unless you have some exotic network setup, things should just work | 09:06 |
| Kilos | so i can access the router | 09:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | my point is that you are assuming the solution is to change your IP, but there is a very good chance you are just not understanding the problem correctly | 09:07 |
| Kilos | nope 14.04 in unity and kde dont even see the router when its plugged in | 09:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ugh you know what forget it | 09:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | good luck | 09:07 |
| Kilos | what did i miss now | 09:07 |
| Kilos | hi pipedream | 09:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | same as always you do not listen, i am trying to make you understand where you might be going wrong but you keep hammering on the same idea | 09:09 |
| Kilos | sorry | 09:09 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | don't be sorry :) | 09:10 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no loss to me | 09:10 |
| Kilos | sorry for upsetting you man | 09:10 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'm not upset, really | 09:10 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its frustrating when we try to help you by starting from the beginning and you just ignore what's being said and keep hammering on what you think the issue is | 09:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but anyway | 09:11 |
| Kilos | just a sec ThatGraemeGuy please help me understand | 09:12 |
| Kilos | this pc cant see the router | 09:12 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what does "see the router" mean though? | 09:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | your normal pc? | 09:13 |
| Kilos | so do i connect the server pc to the router and leave this one disconnected | 09:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you have a room full of PCs from what i can tell, saying "this pc" isn't useful to someone on the other side of the country | 09:13 |
| Kilos | yes my normal pc cant use the router | 09:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the PC you are sitting at right now | 09:14 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:14 |
| Kilos | my running kde | 09:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so you are IRC'ing via? magic? | 09:14 |
| Kilos | no man with modem plugged into pc directly | 09:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ... | 09:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | then what's the router for? | 09:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | in fact, what is the make and model of the thing you are referring to as a router? | 09:15 |
| Kilos | billion b7300nx | 09:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok so does the usb 3g thing plug into that? | 09:18 |
| Kilos | yessir | 09:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok, so what's the problem | 09:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | not "i need to change my ip", what is actually going wrong when you plug things in the way they should be | 09:19 |
| Kilos | the router only accepts pcs with an ip in the same range | 09:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lets try again | 09:20 |
| Kilos | it doesnt connect with dhcp | 09:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ah | 09:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so the router can't do dhcp? or someone turned it off for some reason? | 09:20 |
| Kilos | nm doesnt see there is an eth connection | 09:21 |
| Kilos | the router does dhcp | 09:21 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what is plugged into the router's ethernet ports? | 09:22 |
| Kilos | worked on 12.04 after lots of setting changes in it | 09:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what is plugged into the router's ethernet ports? | 09:22 |
| Kilos | nothing now | 09:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you have another working pc you can plug into it without messing with your main pc? | 09:23 |
| Kilos | yes i used a pc with xp on last night | 09:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok boot that up | 09:23 |
| Kilos | sec | 09:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | does that pc manage to get internet access? | 09:24 |
| Kilos | i didnt try as im bang of windows on internet without antivirus and firewalls | 09:25 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:25 |
| Kilos | let me get that pc setup | 09:25 |
| Kilos | ok xp shows the bipac router in my network places | 09:37 |
| Kilos | and the modem in the router shows it is online to 8ta | 09:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | can you browse to a web site? | 09:38 |
| Kilos | nope server not found | 09:39 |
| Kilos | i tried google.com in firefox | 09:39 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | does the pc have an ip? | 09:40 |
| Kilos | yes i gave it 192.168.1.20 last night | 09:40 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | can you ping the router from the pc? | 09:41 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:41 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and there is a 3g modem plugged in to the router? | 09:42 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | eish | 09:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | then i'm lost further | 09:43 |
| Kilos | lol somewhere in the router settings i had to tell it to allow 3g in place of adsl before | 09:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | well then see if you can find that again | 09:44 |
| Kilos | or to allow each individual pc to use the 3g if i remember right | 09:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh right, that's an adsl router with 3g meant to be the backup | 09:44 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:45 |
| Kilos | i ahd to go to the modem via browser and then tick allow where it showed the different pcs | 09:46 |
| Kilos | was a major job for me | 09:46 |
| Kilos | haha thats why i wanted my main pc to be able to browse to the router | 09:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah but none of the reason was mentioned at all i just had to drag all that information from you | 09:47 |
| Kilos | man you okes are clever , you are supposed to see and know what im battling with | 09:50 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | from my experience it seems you are battling with yourself more than any technical problems :P | 09:51 |
| Kilos | yip have been for over 10 years now | 09:51 |
| Kilos | wbb | 10:21 |
| Squirm | hello | 13:34 |
| Squirm | :P | 13:35 |
| Squirm | Kilos: seems you're struggling there ^^ | 13:35 |
| Kilos | haha i get into the router with xp squirm and with the browser and i can see it connect with 3g but pcs cant use the 3g | 13:40 |
| Kilos | still looking for what i have missed | 13:40 |
| Kilos | all i want is for ubuntu to allow me to change its ip addy then i can park the xp pc away | 13:41 |
| Kilos | or even use it for my server | 13:41 |
| Kilos | but ram is min on it | 13:41 |
| Squirm | Kilos: it should get a static IP... | 13:41 |
| Squirm | what happened to network manager | 13:41 |
| Squirm | ? | 13:41 |
| Squirm | s/static/dynamic | 13:42 |
| Kilos | i have changed it in nm but ifconfig still shows it as 127.blah blah blahg | 13:42 |
| Kilos | inet addr:127.0.0.1 | 13:43 |
| Kilos | if i can change that all probs will be gone | 13:43 |
| Kilos | i followed an online link to setting a static ip and now unity doesnt even show the nm-applet anymore | 13:44 |
| Kilos | so bang to follow online info from kde as well | 13:44 |
| Kilos | i wonder why they made the ip unchangable | 13:46 |
| Squirm | nano /etc/network/interfaces | 13:51 |
| Squirm | or cat | 13:51 |
| Squirm | is there much in that file? | 13:51 |
| Kilos | 2 lines | 13:52 |
| Kilos | auto lo | 13:52 |
| Kilos | iface lo inet dhcp | 13:52 |
| Squirm | are you sure you're network cable is attached properly ;) | 13:53 |
| Squirm | oh wait | 13:53 |
| Squirm | hmm | 13:53 |
| Squirm | Kilos: ifconfig | 13:54 |
| Squirm | send to me in private | 13:54 |
| Kilos | ok | 13:54 |
| nuvolari | I'm out | 14:06 |
| nuvolari | o/ | 14:06 |
| Squirm | bye bye nuvolari | 14:08 |
| Kilos | toods nuvolari | 14:11 |
| Kilos | wbb | 14:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: every PC has an ip of 127.0.0.1 on the loopback interface, you must not mess with that | 14:17 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:17 |
| Squirm | ThatGraemeGuy: his PC thinks he doesn't have a network card | 14:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok, but then stop worrying about IP addresses and DNS servers and fix that | 14:23 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s21pz4XwpK | 14:23 |
| Squirm | lspci shows no network interface | 14:23 |
| Squirm | no ethernet controller | 14:23 |
| Squirm | ifconfig -a only shows loopback and his 3G card | 14:24 |
| Squirm | Kilos: this is what I have | 14:24 |
| Squirm | 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06) | 14:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: you have something with an ethernet port? is it onboard or a card? | 14:24 |
| Squirm | onboard | 14:25 |
| Kilos | oh my now where could mine be, since buying this m.board i havent use the eth | 14:25 |
| Kilos | onboard | 14:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | go into BIOS setup and check if there's a setting to enable Onboard LAN | 14:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | perhaps its turned off for some reason | 14:25 |
| Squirm | yes | 14:25 |
| Squirm | go there | 14:25 |
| Squirm | I would have no idea if it were a driver issue | 14:25 |
| Squirm | :/ | 14:25 |
| Kilos | cool ty guys now we getting somewhere | 14:26 |
| Kilos | wbb | 14:26 |
| Squirm | .:Squirm:. when did it stop working | 14:26 |
| Squirm | .:Kilos:. it has never | 14:26 |
| Squirm | :/ | 14:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it would be a driver issue if lspci said there were some ethernet controller but you still had no eth0 interface | 14:26 |
| Squirm | I now realise that means it has never worked | 14:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ai | 14:26 |
| Squirm | we're getting somewhere now, because we know where to look :P | 14:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i tried to get him to slow down and explain earlier but he kept hammaring on his need to change the ip | 14:27 |
| Squirm | I asked him to paste me ifconfig | 14:27 |
| Squirm | and there was no network interface | 14:27 |
| Squirm | :/ | 14:27 |
| Squirm | well, | 14:30 |
| Squirm | I'm off | 14:30 |
| Squirm | Maaz: tell Kilos I'm off, might bbl. | 14:31 |
| Maaz | Squirm: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 14:31 |
| Squirm | cheers all | 14:31 |
| nlsthzn | sup ya'll | 14:36 |
| nlsthzn | just in time for uncle Kilos :p | 14:36 |
| Kilos | hithere all | 14:36 |
| Kilos | 2 things | 14:36 |
| Kilos | onboard lan controller disabled and onboard lan PXE OPROM disabled | 14:37 |
| Kilos | ty ThatGraemeGuy | 14:37 |
| Kilos | hope they must both be enabled | 14:37 |
| Kilos | ty Squirm now i can go on without worrying about the ip hopefully | 14:38 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:38 |
| Kilos | gotta go pump water | 14:38 |
| Kilos | but took forever to boot | 14:38 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s21Yv0Nz7j | 14:40 |
| Kilos | now we got ethernet stuffs | 14:40 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | PXE doesn't really matter either way | 14:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | does eth0 come up with an ip? | 14:48 |
| Kilos | how do you see that | 15:02 |
| Kilos | in nm? | 15:02 |
| Kilos | in nm under wired i see eth0 (30:0E:D5:12:0B:9B) | 15:04 |
| Kilos | New 802-3-ethernet connection | 15:10 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:26 |
| Kilos | hmm... Xethron you the yoyo tonight | 18:18 |
| nlsthzn | yolo | 18:18 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn hows ya | 18:18 |
| nlsthzn | :) fine thanks uncle Kilos | 18:18 |
| magespawn | good evevning | 19:15 |
| magespawn | evening too | 19:16 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn sorry was watching idiot box | 19:29 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 19:38 |
| inetpro | good evenin | 19:44 |
| Kilos | lo my pro | 19:44 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 20:03 |
| magespawn | hey looks like all the boys come out to play | 20:05 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:05 |
| inetpro | uh? | 20:11 |
| superfly | ZZZzzzzzz.... | 20:13 |
| inetpro | +1 | 20:14 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:16 |
| magespawn | indeed | 20:18 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 20:34 |
| Kilos | you up late | 20:34 |
| magespawn | Kilos, you waiting for night surfer? | 20:41 |
| Kilos | ya but getting kinda tired here | 20:42 |
| Kilos | wanna go see if my minetest online game is still good | 20:43 |
| Kilos | and i need to do some update/upgrading | 20:43 |
| magespawn | i am pretty tired too, just cannot seem to stay up late anymore | 20:45 |
| Kilos | lol you getting old | 20:45 |
| magespawn | indeed, sometimes it amuses me just how old, but everything is relative | 20:47 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 20:48 |
| magespawn | right on that note i am off to bed, good night all | 21:09 |
| Kilos | eish 180m upgrade on kde 14.04 | 21:16 |
| Kilos | mB | 21:17 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 21:29 |
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