[00:00] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Urghh! no Ubuntu entry, and the BootOrder is bad, with non-existent entry 0000 in there twice
[00:01] <Bobbo__> Lol
[00:01] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, just as an aside, let me explain something about that article you linked to
[00:01] <juniour> echo "hello" | sha256sum and echo "hello" |hashalot -x sha256 . y i got two different hash, plz any one clear my concept i am confused on betwwn checksum and hash
[00:01] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Yes, learning stuff is good! :P
[00:02] <HikaruBG> TJ-, mu sound suddenly disapeared
[00:02] <TJ-> Bobbo__: UEFI when started from *removable* media obviously can't have an entry in the system's boot menu already, so the firmware looks to a fixed path "EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.EFI" for the boot manager
[00:02] <havarka> whats the practiclly difference between UEFI and Legacy?
[00:02] <HikaruBG> TJ-, the audio adapter don't show on the sound devices
[00:03] <HikaruBG> any suggestions?
[00:03] <TJ-> Bobbo__: When an OS is installed it tells the UEFI firmware to permanently add an entry into its non-volatile RAM boot menu list.
[00:03] <Bobbo__> TJ-: With you so far.
[00:03] <juniour> echo "hello" | sha256sum and echo "hello" |hashalot -x sha256 . y i got two different hash, plz any one clear my concept i am confused on betwwn checksum and hash
[00:03] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Check the hardware, and work on up
[00:03] <TJ-> juniour: Use "echo -n"
[00:04] <HikaruBG> it is a laptop - the hardware is OK
[00:04] <HikaruBG> :) how to check it, TJ-
[00:04] <HikaruBG> ?
[00:04] <juniour> TJ- wt due to newline???
[00:04] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Linux uses "efibootmgr" to add the permanent entry - it's one of the last things that the installer will do before the restart
[00:05] <TJ-> Bobbo__: So, we now know that either the initial installer use of efibootmgr failed to add the entry, or, as you said it started correctly once, the entry got deleted somehow, possibly a firmware bug, possibly something else.
[00:06] <TJ-> Bobbo__: So, now we have to put the entry back. To do that the best way is to configure the installed system in a chroot, then run the installed system tools inside the chroot to re-add itself. I have a shell script that automates that process I'll give you the link to in a mo
[00:06] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Snazzy.
[00:06] <TJ-> Bobbo__: "wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash"
[00:07] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Then "chmod a+x chroot-auto.bash"
[00:07] <Bobbo__> eww, non-octal flags for chmod. :P
[00:07] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Now, lets un-mount what we did earlier so the script can do its stuff. "sudo umount /target/boot/efi /target"
[00:07] <pac1_> join #expressjs
[00:08] <Bobbo__> unmounted!
[00:08] <TJ-> Bobbo__: then "sudo ./chroot-auto.bash /target /dev/sda2"
[00:09] <TJ-> Bobbo__: If all goes well, you'll be at a root shell prompt inside the chroot, and any file-systems mention in its /etc/fstab will have been auto-mounted
[00:09] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Aye, I'm as root now.
[00:10] <TJ-> Bobbo__: In particular, we need to be sure the ESP has been mounted to /boot/efi, so do "mount | grep efi" and check that is the case
[00:11] <Bobbo__> TJ-: No -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314136
[00:12] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK... lets check it *ought* to be mounted. "pastebinit /etc/fstab"
[00:12] <HikaruBG> TJ-, how to check my sound hardware?
[00:13] <TJ-> HikaruBG: There are sound troubleshooting guides in the Ubuntu wiki and help sites; use those for starters
[00:14] <jimmyxd> por favor, alguem pode me ajudar?
[00:14] <eeee> !es | jimmyxd
[00:16] <Bobbo__> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314154/
[00:17] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, this is the line "UUID=9A09-1E57  /boot/efi". As my script didn't automount that, lets check the ESP's UUID is the same still. "blkid /dev/sda1" - tell me if the UUID is different, else, we'll carry on
[00:18] <Bobbo__> TJ-: it's the same, we can carry on I guess?
[00:18] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Yes. "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi"
[00:18] <TJ-> Bobbo__: except, of course, no need for sudo :p
[00:18] <Bobbo__> Yeah, was gunna say. :P
[00:19] <TJ-> Bobbo__: muscle-memory :)
[00:19] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, now to fix things (we hope)
[00:19] <Bobbo__> Yay!
[00:21] <Cork> i'm setting LANG in /etc/default/locale but it has no effect (after new ssh connection)
[00:21] <Cork> is there another file controlling locale=
[00:21] <Cork> *?
[00:21] <TJ-> Bobbo__: "grub-install --verbose /dev/sda | tee >(pastebinit)"
[00:23] <Bobbo__> omgnoway
[00:23] <Bobbo__> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314215
[00:24] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Let's see the gory detail too "pastebinit < <(efibootmgr --verbose)"
[00:25] <Bobbo__> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314218
[00:25] <TJ-> Bobbo__: We need to manually fix that BootOrder  though, there's 3 0000 entries now
[00:25] <HikaruBG> TJ-, fixed it :)
[00:25] <HikaruBG> thanks
[00:25] <TJ-> HikaruBG: Well done :)
[00:25] <HikaruBG> !modprobe
[00:26] <TJ-> Bobbo__: There's a "0004" in there too, and no matching Boot0004 entry
[00:26] <HikaruBG> what does modprobe does, TJ-
[00:26] <HikaruBG> ?
[00:26] <HikaruBG> what does modprobe do, TJ-
[00:26] <TJ-> HikaruBG: inserts kernel modules (drivers) into the running kernel, to manage devices
[00:27] <TJ-> Bobbo__: I think you need to do "efibootmgr --bootorder 0000,2003,2001,2002"
[00:27] <HikaruBG> people learn everyday :)
[00:27] <HikaruBG> Thanks again TJ-
[00:28] <Bobbo__> mhmm, my internet is playing up, just got like the last 15 messages at the same time. =/
[00:28] <TJ-> Bobbo__: In case you missed it then, I think you need to do "efibootmgr --bootorder 0000,2003,2001,2002"
[00:29] <Bobbo__> done that
[00:29] <TJ-> Bobbo__: After that, a final check "efibootmgr --verbose" to ensure it all looks perfect then you can "exit" the chroot, and reboot to test
[00:30] <Bobbo__> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314237
[00:30] <Ademan_> Does anyone know off-hand if there's a package for a mips cross-compiler setup available in 14.04?
[00:31] <TJ-> Bobbo__: "umount /boot/efi" then "exit" and reboot
[00:31] <TJ-> Ademan_: No, there isn't - not gcc anyhow
[00:31] <Bobbo__> TJ-: no dice
[00:32] <TJ-> Bobbo__: What happened?
[00:32] <Bobbo__> same as before, got to the network boot stuff.
[00:32] <Tripout> is it usual to get error reports on startup caused by xorg nvidia?
[00:33] <Tripout> system is running fine though
[00:33] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK... enter UEFI setup, go to the boot menu part, see if Ubuntu is listed. On some, you can only do that by using the manual boot chooser hot-key during start-up
[00:33] <Bobbo__> Um.
[00:33] <Bobbo__> UEFI setup?
[00:33] <TJ-> Bobbo__: If the entry for ubuntu has gone missing, we know there's a UEFI firmware bug and it isn't saving entries
[00:33] <TJ-> Bobbo__: I dealt with several cases like that a few months ago
[00:34] <eeee> Bobbo__: try f10 and esc
[00:34] <eeee> try esc first
[00:34] <eeee> look for something along the lines of "boot options"
[00:34] <Bobbo__> You don't mean the boot menu to select a device, do you?
[00:34] <TJ-> Bobbo__: I have a sneaking suspicion the boot menu entry can only be named "Windows" for it to be kept
[00:34] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Yes...
[00:35] <Bobbo__> just lists the four devices, USB, HDD, ODD and LAN.
[00:35] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That should also list any boot menu entries - thought you may need to scroll to find them
[00:35] <Bobbo__> And an option to enter the bios.
[00:35] <eeee> Bobbo__: it's not the one you can change the order with, it's more of a on the fly pick something to boot off
[00:35] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK, so looks like you've got a buggy UEFI firmware.
[00:36] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Probably, it's a toshiba laptop. XD
[00:36] <TJ-> Bobbo__: What's the exact model, maybe we can find out something
[00:36] <Bobbo__> Toshiba Satellite S50-A-10W
[00:37] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Not specifically about Toshiba, but there's this: "on the next reboot, the BIOS/UEFI firmware deletes all but the first NVRAM entry for that EFI partition.  It seems to allow only one boot entry per EFI partition.  Since the linux entry is first, the Windows entry is the one deleted by the BIOS."
[00:40] <TJ-> Bobbo__: One other thing to look for; In UEFI Setup menus, look for an option like "Quick Boot" or "Fast Boot". If found, disable it. I think there's one named "Intel Quick Start", too
[00:41] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Also could be called "Smart Boot"
[00:42] <Bobbo__> TJ-: right... I don't see how that pertains to me, not dual booting.
[00:42] <TJ-> Bobbo__: It short-circuits the boot process to ignore the boot menu
[00:43] <Bobbo__> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314299
[00:43] <Bobbo__> =/
[00:44] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Confirms what I thought.
[00:44] <Bobbo__> Shall I check stuff in the bios like you just said then?
[00:44] <jponc_> exit
[00:45] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Yes, those are easy fixes... the worst case is this is a Toshiba firmware bug and you're stuck
[00:47] <Bobbo__> TJ-: secure boot: disabled, boot speed: normal, boot mode is UEFI... I don't see anything else really related to it.
[00:48] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK ... if there isn't anything there then it must be a bug
[00:48] <Bobbo__> And I can't like... Install ubuntu in CSM to get around it?
[00:49] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Yes, you'll have to reinstall and ensure that the Live ISO boots in CSM mode, not UEFI
[00:50] <jimmyxd> hi, u need help for use internet (cable modem)
[00:50] <jimmyxd> *i
[00:50] <Bobbo__> So I have to change boot mode to CSM boot; doing that gives me a new option for SATA controller mode (AHCI or compatibility)?
[00:50] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Which uefi version is installed currently?
[00:50] <Bobbo__> I dunno.
[00:50] <Bobbo__> TJ-: How do I find that out?
[00:51] <TJ-> Bobbo__: It should show it somewhere in the UEFI menus
[00:51] <Bobbo__> Yeah, uhh, what UEFI menus? XD
[00:51] <jimmyxd> personnel, can someone help me please? I can not connect to internet, ubuntu detected the mac adress of my network card, I wonder if it was detected, it must activate it .. if you need to install any drive, (something not in ruindows happens)
[00:51] <TJ-> Top of the screen then? It's usually shown prominently
[00:53] <Bobbo__> I got a bios version at 1.2, not that that means a lot and a date for 2012 at the top.
[00:53] <Bobbo__> And 'EC version 1.1', whatever that is.
[00:53] <EiriksUbuntu> hmm I looked into chroot and that's not going to allow me to have access to the backup as if it were naturally a part of the live usb, is there a way to backup to a live usb that is fully integrated?
[00:53] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Unless I have the wrong model the Toshiba Support site shows the latest version as 1.8
[00:54] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Link?
[00:54] <TJ-> Bobbo__: can't, you'll need to choose from drop-downs, its all Javascripted  http://www.toshiba.co.uk/innovation/download_bios.jsp?service=UK
[00:55] <TJ-> Bobbo__: I've selected Family: Satellite, Series S, Model S50-A
[00:57] <Bobbo__> TJ-: ... yay, that gives me a .exe
[00:57] <jimmyxd> hi, how detected card ethernet ?
[00:58] <TJ-> Bobbo__: You wiped Windows?
[00:58] <Bobbo__> TJ-: Ya, it's gone. Literally can not stand it any more. =\
[00:59] <Bobbo__> (and I didn't know this would happen, heh)
[00:59] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Did you not back-up at least the Recovery Partition?
[00:59] <Bobbo__> Nope, completely nuked... It was Win8 after all.
[01:00] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Any old copies of XP lying about maybe? If the current version is 1.2 and the latest 1.8, that suggests a *lot* if fixes have been issued
[01:01] <TJ-> Bobbo__: At least you now know the cause and how to deal with it, and repair it if needed.
[01:01] <Bobbo__> No, I think the best I could try is somehow getting the ISO I used for my VM to boot on the laptop.
[01:01] <eeee> Bobbo__: how long ago did you nuke it
[01:01] <Bobbo__> eeee: Earlier today.
[01:01] <eeee> i recovered my recovery partition with testdisk, went on to restore the pc with it
[01:01] <eeee> anyways the iso sounds good though
[01:02] <Bobbo__> I guess I should buy some RW DVDs then. :3
[01:02] <TJ-> eeee: Bobbo__ Yes, testdisk might have a chance since not a lot has been written to the disk so far
[01:02] <swift110_> hello all
[01:02] <resc_user_4112> hi everyone... anyone good at fixing boot issues? My mint 16 to 17 upgrade crashed before completing.
[01:02] <eeee> Bobbo__: no usb?
[01:02] <TJ-> Bobbo__: You can run testdisk from the Live ISO to find out, too
[01:03] <Bobbo__> eeee: Windows and USB don't seem to mix for me. =/
[01:03] <TJ-> !mint | resc_user_4112:
[01:04] <swift110_> what is the purpose of a lowlatency kernel
[01:04] <Bobbo__> TJ-: How do I do this testdisk stuff? O_o
[01:09] <eeee> Bobbo__: boot liveusb, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[01:09] <TJ-> Bobbo__: install it "sudo apt-get install testdisk" then run it "sudo testdisk /dev/sda" and use the on-screen selections to have it do a deep scan
[01:09] <Bobbo__> testdisk isn't in the repos apparently, but I got it from their website. :3
[01:10] <eeee> Bobbo__: it's in the universe repo
[01:11] <razieliyo> hi
[01:11] <razieliyo> dkms has no candidate for i386 on amd64 system
[01:11] <razieliyo> is this correct?
[01:11] <razieliyo> or may I be missing some step?
[01:11] <TJ-> Bobbo__: hopefully eeee can guide you now, I have some other things to do. Good luck with it, and *if* a firmware update solves it please let me know
[01:12] <Bobbo__> Okay, thank you, TJ-.
[01:12] <TJ-> razieliyo: huh?
[01:12] <razieliyo> I'll explain my whole problem
[01:12] <razieliyo> I have nvidia 304 drivers for 64 bits working
[01:12] <TJ-> razieliyo: DKMS is "Architecture: all"
[01:12] <Bobbo__> eeee: apt-get can't find it? O-o
[01:12] <razieliyo> and I'm trying to also install i386 drivers, but when I try, I get a lot of not found packages
[01:13] <eeee> Bobbo__: dash > software & updates > universe repo
[01:13] <razieliyo> one of those packages is dkms, I tried to install it by hand but it doesn't find it
[01:13] <TJ-> razieliyo: Are you trying to cross-compile?   check out "man dkms" and in partiticular the "--arch" option
[01:13] <razieliyo> TJ-, nope, I'm just trying to install nvidia drivers for 32 bits
[01:14] <TJ-> razieliyo: sounds like you've got outdated package lists - "apt-get update" maybe?
[01:14] <razieliyo> TJ-, nothing
[01:14] <razieliyo> I may be missing some repos
[01:14] <wad> Hi guys. So I'm going to attempt to install ubuntu on my laptop. The thing is, last time I did this, it took about 20 hours, five of which were with my linux guru friend, to get it to work. So I need to be careful and be able to "fall back" to a working OS if I need to.
[01:14] <razieliyo> but, this is a fresh install, I didn't touch anything on sources.list
[01:15] <wad> So I bought a large external hard drive, and I want to make a bit-by-bit copy of my current hard drive, to the external one, so that I can restore it if need be.
[01:15] <wad> I'm booted into the OS, so my main drive is unmounted, and I can see my external drive here, with an ext4 partition on it.
[01:15] <george_> Hello, can someone suggest me a program like Remote Desktop Connection (RDC) for Windows? I'm using Linux Mint 17. Thank you in advanced!
[01:16] <wad> Question: What tool should I use to clone my drive? partimage, or dd, or something else? I want to include the MBR too.
[01:16] <wad> The disk is dual-boot, to Windows 8.1. So yes, it is UEFI.
[01:16] <Bobbo__> eeee: So I'm in testdisk, and I have like no idea what I'm doign here. :)
[01:16] <phill_> anyone know what kernel parameters can be passed to a wifi interface.. specifically ath9k
[01:17] <yeahnoob> george_: 'remmina' should meet your work.
[01:17] <eeee> Bobbo__: ok, sudo testdisk , select no logging, then select the hdd
[01:18] <eeee> then select Intel > analyze
[01:18] <george_> @yeahnoob thank you. I'm going to test it.
[01:18] <Bobbo__> eeee: then quick search?
[01:18] <eeee> yeah
[01:19] <eeee> look for a 11-18gb ntfs partition
[01:19] <gorelative> how can i sync trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images to my local mirror ?
[01:19] <Bobbo__> eeee: fat32, linux and linux swap. =/
[01:19] <eeee> no problem
[01:19] <gorelative> what would the deb line in my mirrors.list look like if im using apt-mirror
[01:19] <eeee> press enter then > deeper search
[01:20] <eeee> Bobbo__: wait, press q, until you reach the menu with Intel
[01:20] <Bobbo__> eeee: there
[01:21] <eeee> Bobbo__: select whatever it was defaulted to, GPT maybe
[01:21] <Metaliinuxite> Guys im runnin live ubuntu 14.xx i need to access files that are on the USB stick
[01:21] <Metaliinuxite> how do i do that
[01:21] <Bobbo__> eeee: EFI system, unknown and linux swap. Quick search?
[01:21] <eeee> yeah
[01:22] <Metaliinuxite> the usb is not listed in the drives
[01:22] <Bobbo__> eeee: Got a 'MS data' partition and a continue button.
[01:22] <eeee> ok great, hopefully it's the recovery partition
[01:22] <eeee> try to press 'p'
[01:22] <eeee> to view the files
[01:22] <Bobbo__> Metaliinuxite: If you're running the try out of ubuntu from the flash drive you want to access, that gets mounted as /
[01:23] <Bobbo__> eeee: P does nothing? I guess I need to continue first. :P
[01:23] <Bobbo__> eeee: I continued, got another listing here for MS data with "[Recovery]" at the end of the line?
[01:23] <eeee> ok, great
[01:23] <Metaliinuxite> Bobbo__ : can't see my files in root
[01:24] <eeee> press p
[01:24] <Bobbo__> eeee: Got like ls -la output, with recovery and sys vol info
[01:25] <eeee> is there a bunch of stuff like EFI recovery
[01:25] <Metaliinuxite> eeee did you lose system reserved?
[01:25] <eeee> Metaliinuxite: no, im good
[01:26] <Bobbo__> eeee: In where, sorry?
[01:27] <eeee> Bobbo__: in the partition
[01:28] <eeee> does it look like the recovery partition? search for a file that is called install.wim , or something similar
[01:28] <eeee> what's the size of the partition btw?
[01:28] <Bobbo__> I got a bunch of install[0-9]+.swm files in this Recovery directory.
[01:29] <eeee> what's the size?
[01:29] <Bobbo__> Um, I'm not sure, looks like 23304192 ?
[01:29] <Bobbo__> for the partition.
[01:30] <eeee> look at the bottom line, next to NTFS
[01:30] <Bobbo__> oh, how convenient! XD
[01:30] <Bobbo__> 11GB
[01:30] <eeee> ok looks like the recovery partition
[01:30] <gorelative> how can i sync trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images to my local mirror ?what would the deb line in my mirrors.list look like if im using apt-mirror
[01:30] <TJ-> .swm == Split Windows iMage files
[01:30] <Bobbo__> You're a wizard harry?
[01:31] <Bobbo__> eeee: So what, I need to copy this data out?
[01:31] <eeee> TJ-: i'm familiar with using dism to extract a .wim file
[01:32] <eeee> Bobbo__: do you have any ntfs partition on your hdd right now?
[01:32] <TJ-> Bobbo__: simpler that that; let testdisk recreate this partition and partition table entry, allow the existing Ubuntu install to be blown away, then boot the system with this recovery file-system to reinstall Windows... so you can do the BIOS upgrade.
[01:32] <TJ-> eeee: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314003/
[01:32] <TJ-> eeee: Pure Ubuntu install for UEFI
[01:33] <eeee> yeah if you don't mind ubuntu that would be better
[01:33] <razieliyo> xserver-xorg-core:i386 not available in my repos
[01:33] <razieliyo> =S
[01:34] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Once you've got Windows and done the BIOS update, shrink the Windows partition to a minimal size but leave it in place, and install Ubuntu alongside it. That way you have an emergency fall-back in case of future windows-only tool requirements
[01:34] <Bobbo__> eeee: no
[01:34] <eeee> do you have anything you need from this ubuntu installation?
[01:34] <Bobbo__> eeee: no
[01:35] <eeee> so you're ok with erasing it?
[01:35] <Bobbo__> eeee: nuke away! How do I get it to recreate the partition?
[01:35] <eeee> Bobbo__: use the right arrow
[01:35] <eeee> to select it
[01:36] <Bobbo__> Okay, I got another partition selected with no name... Looks like the UEFI partition from the size (512MiB), do I want to keep that selected?
[01:36] <eeee> yeah
[01:36] <eeee> i was about to tell you to leave it
[01:36] <TJ-> eeee: Bobbo__ lets hope these don't overlap
[01:37] <Bobbo__> TJ-: wat?
[01:37] <eeee> they shouldn't though right, cuz efi is at the start, recovery the very end?
[01:38] <TJ-> Bobbo__: The current ESP was created by Ubuntu; the original ESP would likely have been a different size, and the Recovery partition likely followed it - so if the original ESP were smaller than the current, that Recovery Partition might now start inside the ESP
[01:39] <TJ-> eeee: Is Recovery at the end? most I've seen have it at the front, before the bootable Windows partition
[01:39] <Bobbo__> It's at the end
[01:39] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Good :)
[01:39] <Bobbo__> In between the two I've got a 925GiB partition
[01:39] <eeee> it's not going to boot anyways, don't wanna be a party pooper :) bu ti doubt it
[01:40] <eeee> you're going to have to extract it yourself, most likely
[01:40] <TJ-> eeee: We can extract the EFI boot loader from the Recovery partition, and stick it in the ESP as "/EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.EFI" and that should be enough
[01:41] <Dramors> Hey people, quick question: I'm on 14.04, on top of which I installed gnome 3 (the one provided by the official repos). I want to have it so when I press ctrl+alt+l I will get the same lockscreen I get in unity. Is that possible?
[01:41] <eeee> TJ-: that would be awesome then!
[01:41] <Bobbo__> eeee: TJ-: Okay, now like a nub for me? :P
[01:42] <eeee> Bobbo__: press enter
[01:43] <TJ-> Bobbo__: The Recovery file=system contains everything needed to reinstall Windows, but in addition it is itself a minimal bootable Windows installation, so we should be able to get the bootmgr.efi out of it, and put it in the ESP as /EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.EFI, which means the firmware will find it and use it to boot from the disk drive
[01:43] <eeee> you'll get a list of the partitions, should have the efi and recovery partitions, then press write
[01:43] <Bobbo__> So I should deselect this UEFI partition that's selected atm?
[01:44] <Baako> file_put_contents(/var/www/laravel/app/storage/meta/services.json): failed to open stream: Permission denied
[01:44] <Baako> i have done chmod -R 755 /app/storage/*
[01:44] <eeee> no, we're going to plug the bootmg file from the recovery partition in the efi you have
[01:44] <Baako> but still getting the permission error
[01:45] <razieliyo> hi
[01:45] <swift110_> http://anthonyvenable110.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/why-i-feel-that-linux-has-better-security-than-windows-updated-version-2/
[01:45] <razieliyo> I just wanted to say that my problem is solved
[01:45] <TJ-> Bobbo__: You should have the first partition showing something like this: "1 P EFI System                  2048     526335     524288 [EFI System]"
[01:45] <razieliyo> I just messed it up with libs later trying to run some code of mine with opengl =D
[01:45] <razieliyo> first time on 64 bits system... still too weird to me
[01:45] <Bobbo__> eeee: So then select write to write that recov partition?
[01:46] <eeee> yeah
[01:46] <Bobbo__> hurmm
[01:46] <Bobbo__> a valid ntfs boot sector must be present in order to access any data; even if the partition is not bootable
[01:46] <Bobbo__> I should screenshare this, might make it easier?
[01:47] <Dramors> Ah nvm, I used better searched terms in google and solved this myself
[01:47] <TJ-> Bobbo__: That sounds like the start of the partition got over-written, so it lost the BPB in sector 0
[01:48] <Bobbo__> What's BPB?
[01:50] <TJ-> Bobbo__: BIOS Parameter Block; data at the start of Windows file-systems that describe its layout
[01:50] <Bobbo__> Oh.
[01:51] <Bobbo__> TJ- / eeee: So what do? O_o
[01:51] <Ademan_> TJ-: thanks
[01:52] <eeee> Bobbo__: i'd write it
[01:52] <TJ-> Bobbo__: It should be telling you about the "Boot sector" and "Backup boto sector" - is it?
[01:52] <Bobbo__> TJ-: It said both were okay.
[01:53] <Bobbo__> sectors are identical... Then what I said earlier about the NTFS boot sector being present.
[01:53] <TJ-> Bobbo__: really? YAY! OK, it's just an informational warning then... carry on
[01:53] <Bobbo__> uhh, I got five options, quit, list, rebuild bs, repair mft and dump ?
[01:54] <TJ-> eeee: Are you able to give guidance here? I can't test this I was running it on a good live disk :)
[01:55] <eeee> well, when i did it, i ran rebuild bs
[01:55] <TJ-> eeee: "bs" being "boot sector" ?
[01:55] <eeee> yeah
[01:56] <Bobbo__> Rebuilding boot sector then!
[01:56] <iampaul83> is there a way of making a custom application that i create to run as a service or deamon at start up?
[01:56] <eeee> TJ-: ?
[01:56] <Bobbo__> eeee: dump, list, quit?
[01:56] <eeee> lol, quit i guess :)
[01:56] <Bobbo__> I'm back at the menu I was before... Fully quit?
[01:56] <TJ-> eeee: I find all these "quits" disconcerting ... I'd prefer "back" :)
[01:57] <Bobbo__> I know, I found it confusing at first.
[01:57] <TJ-> Bobbo__: At some point you'll need to write the currently in-memory partition table to disk
[01:58] <Bobbo__> Um
[01:58] <Bobbo__> I thought I done that by selecting write earlier?
[01:58] <plex> Hi everyone. I installed 2 new 4tb HDD in my tower today for media storage. They are both ext4 and have them mounted through fstab. Any idea why I would be struggling to get 7mb/s transfering between them over sata?
[01:58] <eeee> Bobbo__: i think he means restart the pc
[01:58] <TJ-> Bobbo__: OK... I missed that, I was outside
[01:59] <TJ-> Bobbo__: Once you've finished with testdisk we'll need to hunt the EFI bootmgr file and install it to the ESP
[01:59] <eeee> TJ-: was rebuilding the boot sector the proper choice?
[01:59] <eeee> i lol
[02:00] <TJ-> eeee: I hope so! that was the boot sector for the NTFS recovery partition
[02:00] <eeee> *lol'd cause i was waiting for you to say something about it first
[02:00] <TJ-> eeee: blind leading the very tired and blind, here :)
[02:00] <Bobbo__> Yeah, I'm tired... I should really be asleep but I really want this working. =/
[02:02] <Bobbo__> So....
[02:02] <Bobbo__> It says I have to reboot for the change to take effect, which makes sense I guess.
[02:04] <plex> does anyone know why transfer rates between internal HDD's would be really slow?
[02:05] <pasw12> hello! what you discuss?
[02:06] <plex> i'm on ubuntu 14.04 if that helps at all?
 So....
 It says I have to reboot for the change to take effect, which makes sense I guess.
 \o/
 eeee: Got a recovery partition mounted, so far so good... So I guess I can look for the efi file now.
[02:08] <eeee> yeah
[02:08] <TJ-> Back... we thought we heard intruders
[02:08] <Bobbo_> Well that was easy.
[02:08] <Bobbo_> bootmgr.efi
[02:09] <eeee> Bobbo_: find /path/to/recovery -iname "bootmgfw.efi"
[02:09] <eeee> or "*.efi"
[02:09] <TJ-> Bobbo_:  OK, create a mount point for the ESP "sudo mkdir /efi" then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /efi"
[02:11] <eeee> TJ-: is that the file?
[02:11] <eeee> cause i have bootmgfw.efi in my /EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[02:11] <eeee> as well as bootmgr.efi
[02:11] <Bobbo_> Well.... I'll run the find command now that I've got it remounted.
[02:11] <eeee> and efibootmgr -v shows bootmgfw.efi as being used
[02:13] <Bobbo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314838
[02:13] <TJ-> eeee: Bobbo_ Checking here... but Windows Disk Management doesn't allow access to the ESP!
[02:13] <eeee> TJ-: he can use diskpart to mount it, i think
[02:13] <TJ-> eeee: No need I hope
[02:14] <TJ-> Bobbo_: That pastebin; is that of the contents of the Recovery file-system partition?
[02:14] <Bobbo_> find /efi -type f -iname '*.efi'
[02:14] <TJ-> Bobbo_: You mean that's from the *existing* ESP!?!
[02:14] <eeee> why's the recovery mounted in /efi ?
[02:15] <Bobbo_> Because TJ- told me do that just now, eeee ?
[02:15] <eeee> no he said to mount the esp
[02:15] <eeee> :)
[02:15] <Bobbo_> TJ-> Bobbo_:  OK, create a mount point for the ESP "sudo mkdir /efi" then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /efi"
[02:15] <Bobbo_> I done those two commands.
[02:15] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I meant for the ESP to be mounted at /efi/  ... hmmm, it looks like the partition numbers have been changed to be out-of-order!
[02:16] <TJ-> Bobbo_: OK, first "pastebinit < <(sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print)"
[02:16] <HikaruBG> guys, why I can't type anything in the #mysql channel?
[02:17] <TJ-> eeee: At least we know the Recovery image has a file for 'simple' UEFI removable media boot already in place
[02:17] <eeee> HikaruBG: probably because you need to be registered
[02:17] <Bobbo_> TJ-, eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314866
[02:17] <_unreal_> HikaruBG, is your handle (name) registered
[02:18] <TJ-> Bobbo_: eeee Argghhhh
[02:18] <eeee> what's up?
[02:18] <HikaruBG> _unreal_, yes  it is
[02:18] <TJ-> Bobbo_: The testdisk operation didn't preserve the existing ESP, the GPT now only has the Recovery partition
[02:19] <_unreal_> then what is happening, are you getting a message from the channel saying:          can not send to channel?
[02:19] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Right
[02:19] <_unreal_> if so then there is a channel mode set not allowing you to type and there is nothing you can do about it. unless you are voiced or allowed to talk by an admin (channel op)
[02:20] <HikaruBG>  _unreal_ yes, the message is the same, and I re-sent my identity credentials to nickserv, so I can type now
[02:20] <HikaruBG> thanks!
[02:20] <_unreal_> good,
[02:20] <TJ-> Bobbo_: eeee Let's gamble here, that the UEFI firmware knows how to read NTFS. On that assumption we can change the partition type of the single NTFS partition from "msftdata" to "EFI System Partition" and - if we're really lucky - the firmware will boot from it into recovery
[02:21] <eeee> sounds good
[02:21] <Bobbo_> TJ-: You sound like a computer ninja, how do I do that? :D
[02:22] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Break hundreds of systems... then repair them :p
[02:22] <Bobbo_> =/
[02:22] <eeee> gdisk would be the weapon of choice ? :D
[02:22] <Bobbo_> I dislike breaking stuff. XD
[02:23] <Bobbo_> So... gdisk? O_o
[02:23] <ponA> hey guys, i just want to know if there is a way to somehow get the output of a terminal transferred via serial port and then transfer the input back
[02:24] <eeee> Bobbo_: i think so, sudo gdisk
[02:25] <eeee> press 't' , then select the first partition
[02:25] <ponA> my idea is that i could start a NAS located at my home with the raspberry pi over the internet, then enter the password to decrypt the data and use it as an online storage
[02:25] <TJ-> Bobbo_: WE can use sgdisk --typecode
[02:25] <eeee> enter ef00 as the hex code
[02:25] <Bobbo_> Wait what
[02:25] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Or go with eeee and do it manually :)
[02:25] <Bobbo_> Which one am I doing?
[02:25] <eeee> do sgdisk
[02:25] <_unreal_> ponA, your talking about doing vnc?
[02:26] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I was about to give you the scripted version of what eeee is taking you through manually; carry on
[02:27] <ponA> _unreal not really vnc, more like those really expensive kvm server expansions, so you get a console and can input stuff over the network
[02:27] <Bobbo_> wait
[02:27] <Bobbo_> so
[02:27] <_unreal_> ponA, are you looking to access a storage location like it was a network storage only over the internet?
[02:27] <Bobbo_> eeee: TJ- sgdisk --typecode ?
[02:27] <Bobbo_> Anything else?
[02:27] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Ignore my suggestion, follow what eeee  is telling you
[02:27] <eeee> Bobbo_: sgdisk --typecode:/dev/sda1:{ef00} ?
[02:27] <eeee> ( going by the man page )
[02:27] <_unreal_> or are you looking to have console access ssh?
[02:27] <eeee> sorry
[02:28] <eeee> Bobbo_: sgdisk --typecode:/dev/sda1:ef00 ?
[02:28] <eeee> lol :)
[02:28] <Bobbo_> well
[02:28] <Bobbo_> That might of worked?
[02:28] <Bobbo_> (with no ?, obviously)
[02:28] <ponA> _unreal i have the raspi on the internet 24/7,so far it works as a little webserver
[02:29] <eeee> run parted again and see what it says
[02:29] <TJ-> Bobbo_: eeee I think it should have been "sudo sgdisk --typecode=1:EF00"
[02:29] <ponA> _unreal now i want a bigger NAS which uses ubuntu to be connected to the internet
[02:29] <ponA> _unreal i want to start the NAS device over the internet which would normally require to press a button or use wake on LAN
[02:29] <Bobbo_> TJ-, eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314952
[02:30] <ponA> _unreal but it is encrypted, so i will have to enter the password and username
[02:30] <_unreal_> ok last time, WHAT are you planning to do with it? file access? ssh console access?
[02:30] <eeee> yeah, that's a negative
[02:30] <TJ-> Bobbo_: The full command should be "sudo sgdisk --typecode=1:EF00 /dev/sda"
[02:31] <Bobbo_> Says the new partition table will be used at next reboot... Reboot time?
[02:31] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Then do "sudo sgdisk --print /dev/sda"
[02:31] <TJ-> Bobbo_: No
[02:31] <ponA> _unreal so i was just wondering if there is a way to use the serial port of the raspberry pi to boot up the ubuntu system
[02:31] <_unreal_> Omg.
[02:31] <bootes> hello.  Bit of an issue i have.  I have a 12.04 sever running under virtualbox.  I did a do-release-upgrade, and from what I saw..it went without a problem.  No errors.   However when I boot it,  the grub menu displays *ubuntu and Advanced Ubuntu options
[02:31] <TJ-> Bobbo_: The PT hasn't changed in a way that will affect the OS
[02:32] <TJ-> Bobbo_: verify the partition type is now EFI system partition
[02:32] <Bobbo_> TJ-, eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314956
[02:32] <bootes> If I select the first one, it boots into the initramfs promnpt
[02:32] <_unreal_> ponA, so you want to use your rasPI to send a wol signal to an ubuntu computer.
[02:32] <Bobbo_> TJ-: That looks right, right?
[02:33] <erick__> How can I enter bash commands into terminal without a script? Ex: $test = "test"
[02:33] <ponA> _unreal_ the problem is, that the ubuntu computer is encrypted, i would need the raspberry pi to send keyboard inputs to the ubuntu system
[02:33] <_unreal_> ponA, if I was you and your looking to use one system to deal with an other.. I would suggest setting up a router with OPENWRT
[02:34] <somsip> erick__: you type them. But that command does not have correct syntax
[02:34] <_unreal_> that way you have a very mature softare platform, very secure and you can add just about any function you could think of.
[02:34] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Yes it does, let's hope the UEFI firmware will read NTFS - EFI SP is generally supposed to be only FAT32 and quite small! Try a reboot
[02:34] <erick__> somsip: Thanks!
[02:34] <ponA> _unreal_ i can start the ubuntu server with WOL but then i run into the encryption problem
[02:34] <Bobbo_> Okay, do I need to do anything fancy at boot-time or do I just let it boot from the HDD?
[02:35] <TJ-> Bobbo_: just ensure it tries to boot the HDD from the boot menu
[02:35] <ponA> _unreal_ can i ssh into a machine before any other user is logged in?
[02:36] <_unreal_> ponA, if your trying to access your encrypted server which is behind a router and must be accessed by a second computer behind the router. it would be wise to setup the router with openwrt and cut out the middle man. that way you have less ports to foward and less hassle
[02:36] <_unreal_> ?
[02:36] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Selecting the HDD to boot from at start up drops through to booting from the USB, somehow? O_o
[02:37] <erick__> somsip: What about test = "/proj/"
[02:37] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Could be it doesn't like it so looks to the next device. I said it was a long-shot, to save a lot more set-up work
[02:37] <erick__> somsip: I type it in and am told that test is not a command
[02:37] <Bobbo_> eeee: TJ- Yeah, no dice 'ere.
[02:37] <TJ-> Bobbo_: OK, "Try Ubuntu" again *sigh*
[02:37] <ponA> _unreal_ this might be a dumb question as i am new to linux but if i have network access to the ubuntu server, can i just use ssh if it boots up before entering any passwords locally?
[02:37] <somsip> erick__: your syntax is still wrong. Find a basic guide on bash commands to help you
[02:38] <Bobbo_> TJ-: There.
[02:38] <TJ-> Bobbo_: OK, we have to regain the lost real ESP :)
[02:38] <_unreal_> ponA, you have lost me.... can any one else help ponA ? I have suggested that if he wanted to access an encrypted computer that is on his local network. using one computer behind his router to then access the other computer with the encription would be better done using a router with OPENWRT. and set every thing up from the direct source.
[02:38] <Bobbo_> Back to listdisk?
[02:39] <TJ-> Bobbo_: This means fiddling with the current partition table again to move the Recovery partition entry from #1 to #2, so we can recreate #1 to point to the real ESP
[02:39] <_unreal_> yes
[02:39] <TJ-> Bobbo_: No; we'll do this the guru's way :p
[02:39] <_unreal_> yes you can ponA so long as you have an SSH server installed, or if you prever vnc
[02:39] <spearhead> ponA, yes you can ssh into a server without having anyone logged in localy
[02:39] <_unreal_> prefer
[02:39] <eeee> TJ-: how does it know which file to boot? i mean shouldn't we add the .efi to efibootmgr ?
[02:39] <TJ-> Bobbo_: less chance of a cock-up :)
[02:39] <Bobbo_> I feel like I should be wearing white, TJ-.
[02:40] <stephen123> sorry name change ..  Any help with an initramfs issue?
[02:40] <ponA> _unreal_ okay, thats cool, so i just need to send the WOL signal and choose a strong password to establish a secure SSH connection and enter my password
[02:40] <ponA> that's cool :)
[02:40] <TJ-> Bobbo_: You should :)   eeee Godd point, I was forgetting everything was offset to /Recovery/RicaTools/
[02:40] <_unreal_> ponA, trying to add ssh access in a complicated method as your describing using multi computers behind a router over the internet is not going to happen easy, especially with your idea of a method.
[02:41] <TJ-> Bobbo_: You fancy one more reboot test before we engage surgical gowns?
[02:41] <_unreal_> sort of
[02:41] <Bobbo_> Yes.
[02:41] <spearhead> ponA, if the NAS is going to be open to the internet I would disable password login via ssh and go with a key encryption over ssh it is much more secure
[02:41] <_unreal_> ponA, first do you have an ssh server installed on that computer, second do you know the syntex to access an SSH server?
[02:41] <TJ-> Bobbo_: "sudo mkdir /efi/" then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /efi"
[02:41] <Bobbo_> Let's try some more erroneous hacking before scrubbing up.
[02:42] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Aye.
[02:42] <_unreal_> also, is wake on lan setup in your ubuntu servers bios? you will also need sleep/suspend setup  working in the bios and in the ubuntu os its self
[02:42] <ponA> _unreal_ ssh would be easy with portforwarding and so on, i logged into my raspberry pi several times but i thought it would have to be "unlocked" locally first
[02:43] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Then "sudo mkdir /efi/EFI/" followed by "sudo cp -a /efi/Recovery/RicaTools/* /efi/EFI/"
[02:43] <Bobbo_> What does -a do for cp? O_o
[02:43] <ponA> _unreal_ i still could use the raspberry pi to just "push" the power button of the server
[02:43] <_unreal_> Bobbo_, : man cp
[02:44] <Bobbo_> _unreal_: I know, but it was running the command and cba for tmux, lol.
[02:44] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Done!
[02:44] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Then "ls /efi/EFI/" should show the files have been copied in - "cp -a" is an archive, recursive directories, copy
[02:44] <Bobbo_> Ya, looks like it
[02:44] <SP33D> how to remove network device
[02:44] <TJ-> Bobbo_: looking at your previous pastebin you should see all the same entries as are shown there under "/efi/Recovery/RicaTools/" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314838/
[02:44] <SP33D> thats not in interfaces
[02:45] <TJ-> Bobbo_: You've simply made copies under "/efi/EFI/"
[02:45] <Bobbo_> TJ-: ya
[02:45] <spearhead> !details | SP33D
[02:45] <_unreal_> ponA, if you now all that then why are you asking these questions?
[02:45] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I think I made a boo-boo there
[02:45] <Bobbo_> TJ-: You mean a Bobbo ? :D
[02:45] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Yes, copied one directory too deep LOL
[02:46] <TJ-> Bobbo_: "sudo mv /efi/EFI/* /efi/"
[02:46] <ponA> _unreal_ i did not know that you could just ssh into a machine, i thought you would have to be logged into it locally first
[02:46] <_unreal_> no
[02:46] <eeee> TJ-: why aren't we just adding /recovery/Ricatools/..efi to the efibootmgr ? as is
[02:46] <eeee> i mean we're going to have to add that line anyways right
[02:47] <TJ-> Bobbo_: then show me "pastebinit < <(find /efi/)"
[02:47] <_unreal_> ponA, correct, so long as the ssh server is started up, and the computer has a network connection you can ssh
[02:47] <TJ-> eeee: Because "/efi/boot/bootx64.efi" is the 'simple' path that the UEFI firmware will look for on a device to boot it without a custom boot menu entry - as used for removable devices particularly
[02:47] <spearhead> ponA, now, if you don't have anyone logged in locally then the user's home directory will not be decrypted by default if you selected to encrypt home directories when you installed ubuntu
[02:48] <Bobbo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8315070
[02:48] <TJ-> Bobbo_: "sudo rmdir /efi/EFI"
[02:49] <ponA> _spearhead_ but i could decrypt them via ssh, right?
[02:49] <ponA> omg i mess up the names, sorry spearhead :)
[02:50] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Aye
[02:50] <spearhead> ponA, yes, i don't remember the command right now but I will look it up, but after you logged in over ssh you would run a command which would decrypt the home directory.
[02:50] <_unreal_> spearhead, you have been spearheaded
[02:50] <TJ-> Bobbo_: eeee This is relying on: "Boot loaders can also be automatically detected by the UEFI firmwares, to enable booting from removable devices. Auto-detection relies on a standardized file path to the operating system loader, depending on the actual architecture to boot. Format of the file path is defined as <EFI_SYSTEM_PARTITION>/BOOT/BOOT<MACHINE_TYPE_SHORT_NAME>.EFI, e.g. /efi/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI"
[02:51] <ponA> spearhead no need to look it up, i havent got the ubuntu machine yet
[02:51] <TJ-> Bobbo_: "sudo umount /efi" then try  reboot and hope :)
[02:51] <_unreal_> ponA, if you have like a large key file then you just keep a thumb drive with you with the data you need for decription
[02:51] <Bobbo_> TJ-: no dice
[02:52] <TJ-> Bobbo_: *sigh*
[02:52] <Bobbo_> booting into live usb
[02:52] <ponA> _unreal_ but it would not work if i want to decrypt via internet, or does it?
[02:52] <TJ-> Bobbo_: OK, we'll recover the ESP Ubuntu created
[02:52] <spearhead> _unreal_, it isn't even that complicated... if I remember right after you log in over ssh you run a command and it asks for your login password then decrypts the home directory like normal
[02:53] <_unreal_> spearhead, I'm talking about if he has like some huge hash key code
[02:53] <_unreal_> 256bit blaa blaa blaa
[02:53] <spearhead> you would only need that if you are doing key authentication for ssh...
[02:54] <spearhead> and you should be using at least 2048 bit for that...
[02:55] <Bobbo_> TJ-: So, listdisk? XD
[02:55] <TJ-> Bobbo_: testdisk? No! We'll do this properly!
[02:55] <Bobbo_> um yeah
[02:55] <Bobbo_> that one
[02:55] <Bobbo_> Okay
[02:56] <Bobbo_> hang on
[02:56]  * Bobbo_ dons lab coat
[02:57] <spearhead> _unreal_, ponA, it looks like the command is ecryptfs-mount-private
[02:58] <TJ-> Bobbo_: "sudo parted /dev/sda unit s mkpart primary 2048 1050623"
[02:58] <ponA> spearhead thx, i'll note that! can't wait for my hardware to arrive :)
[02:59] <Bobbo_> TJ-: update fstab? O_o
[02:59] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Errr, no
[03:00] <samthewildone> TJ-, Hey
[03:00] <samthewildone> o/
[03:00] <Bobbo_> TJ-: It says too. :3
[03:00] <Bobbo_> well, may need too.
[03:00] <Bobbo_> Anyway
[03:01] <TJ-> Bobbo_: now I'm figuring out the command to transpose the 2 partitions you should now have, using sgdisk. Can you show me "pastebinit < <(sudo parted print)"  in the meantime?
[03:01] <spearhead> ponA, it also looks like if you login via ssh and before you run that command you edit your $HOME/.profile and add ecryptfs-mount-private to the end of that file then it will automatically ask for your password and decrypt your home directory
[03:02] <ponA> spearhead, thats even nicer!
[03:02] <TJ-> Bobbo_: First let's change the type of the Recovery partition back to msftdata (0700) with "sudo sgdisk --typecode=1:0700 /dev/sda" then check that yourself with "sudo parted /dev/sda print" to make sure that is done
[03:03] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Forget the parted thing then?
[03:03] <TJ-> Bobbo_: show me it once you're done :)
[03:04] <Bobbo_> So change the type then do it?
[03:04] <spearhead> ponA, I would test it but the only server that I have that has encrypted home directory has my user logged in locally and I would have to swap around monitors and keyboards to logout to test it...
[03:04] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I don't want to take steps without verifying the state of the partition table is what I assume it to be
[03:04] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Yes, please
[03:05] <_unreal_> spearhead, cant vnc?
[03:05] <Bobbo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8315142
[03:05] <_unreal_> or rather dont have vnc setup on that computer?
[03:05] <sydney> When will 14.04.2 be out?
[03:05] <spearhead> _unreal_, nope, ubuntu server, no gui
[03:05] <ponA> spearhead no problem, i'll test it if my hardware arrives, if it does not work i'll come back here...
[03:06] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Good, now let's make #2 an ESP: "sudo sgdisk --typecode=2:EF00" then check that #2 is shown as an EFI System Partition
[03:06] <samthewildone> https://plus.google.com/107174506890941499078/posts/Nr6jWDhQA1Z
[03:07] <Bobbo_> TJ-: What device for that sgdisk command?
[03:07] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Arggh!! "/dev/sda"
[03:08] <TJ-> Bobbo_: getting tired here... almost dawn
[03:08] <Bobbo_> I know. :3
[03:08] <Bobbo_> That says it completed successfully!
[03:08] <eeee> 6am here, somehow cereals are cheering me up big time
[03:08] <_unreal_> 11pm
[03:08] <Bobbo_> 4AM
[03:09] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Next? :)
[03:09] <TJ-> Bobbo_: 04:08 here OK, now lets check the fat32 file-system is valid. "sudo fsck.fat /dev/sda2"
[03:10] <Bobbo_> Um, it looks valid?
[03:10] <TJ-> Bobbo_: It should be; I took the start/end sector numbers from your earlier pastebin
[03:10] <Bobbo_> which one?
[03:10] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Good ... now we can mount it and add the boot files
[03:11] <TJ-> Bobbo_: This one http://paste.ubuntu.com/8314003/
[03:11] <Bobbo_> um, no
[03:11] <Bobbo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8315182/
[03:12] <TJ-> Bobbo_:  Looking good :) now do "sudo kpartx -a /dev/sda" followed by "pastebinit < <(cat /proc/partitions)"
[03:13] <Bobbo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8315194/
[03:15] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Going well :) ... "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/efi /mnt/rec"
[03:15] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/rec" and "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/efi"
[03:16] <Bobbo_> aye
[03:18] <TJ-> Bobbo_: "sudo cp -a /mnt/rec/efi/* /mnt/efi/" then "pastebinit < <(find /mnt/efi)"
[03:19] <Bobbo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8315217/
[03:21] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I done it again! Let's fix my mistake: "sudo mv /mnt/efi/boot/* /mnt/efi/EFI/BOOT/"   and "sudo mv /mnt/efi/microsoft /mnt/efi/EFI/"
[03:22] <TJ-> Bobbo_: then let me check I got it correct this time: "pastebinit < <(find /mnt/efi)"
[03:22] <ponA> just out of curiosity as i am just learning about linux file systems... apparently you can unmount /home, then cd to /home and use ls to list all the data that is there (which is empty). what will happen if you use mkdir foo to make a directory in your unmounted /home directory?
[03:23] <Bobbo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8315261/
[03:23] <eeee> TJ-: that's odd, how does it have the /EFI/ubuntu/ files there?
[03:23] <TJ-> ponA: You're not doing it in the unmounted file-system, you're doing it the parent file-system. When you re-mount the /home file-system it will 'hide' "/home/foo" until you unmount /home again
[03:23] <Blaster> Hey I'm auditing a system and there's a user that can execute sudo without password, but he's not in the sudoers file, or a part of a sudo group.  How can this be?
[03:24] <neutrino> ponA: it will jsut be there .. and disapear when you mount home again
[03:24] <eeee> isn't this a fresh ESP, with all the files from the /recovery ?
[03:25] <Blaster> Nevermind. I see that he has a file in the /etc/sudoers.d directory.
[03:25] <TJ-> eeee: Bobbo_ had installed 14.04 on the hard disk already; the problem we're trying to fix is that his Toshiba laptop UEFI will not save and keep the Ubuntu boot menu entry. All this work is so Bobbo_ can use Windows (which he'd earlier wiped completely) to install firmware updates that may fix the issue!
[03:26] <eeee> yeah i know, but i mean the files, on the new esp, how is /efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi there?
[03:26] <eeee> i mean didnt you just create the esp, and copy the files from the recovery ?
[03:26] <TJ-> eeee: Because all I did was recovery the ESP at the start of the disk that testdisk had removed when it rescued the Recovery partition
[03:26] <eeee> oh ok, i thought you created a new one
[03:27] <eeee> interesting
[03:27] <eeee> so if you specify the sectors, it'll just create a partition and whatever is already there is there?
[03:28] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I just want to triple-check that the "/mnt/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.EFI" is the Windows version, by testing its checksum: "md5sum /mnt/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.EFI  /mnt/rec/efi/boot/bootx64.efi"
[03:28] <TJ-> eeee: correct
[03:28] <TJ-> Bobbo_: That command should calculate checksums on those 2 files, and the checksums should be identical
[03:29] <Bobbo_> they match
[03:29] <TJ-> eeee: remember when we edit a partition table, we're just editing pointers, not the data in the area of the disk they point to
[03:29] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Yay!
[03:29] <TJ-> Bobbo_: "sudo umount /mnt/{rec,efi}"  .... and try another reboot!
[03:30] <Bobbo_> Take a guess
[03:31] <TJ-> Bobbo_: No dice?
[03:31] <Bobbo_> Aye
[03:31] <TJ-> Bobbo_: well that's a ^&%%!
[03:31] <eeee> TJ-: i see
[03:32] <Bobbo_> circumflex ampersand percent percent?
[03:32] <Bobbo_> :P
[03:32] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Does the Toshiba boot manager have an entry to get into a UEFI Shell? Most 'good' UEFI do, and that shell is extremely powerful and can allow you to manually bot anything
[03:33] <Bobbo_> um
[03:33] <Bobbo_> There's a UEFI shell?
[03:33] <ios-7-mel> Reading package lists... Error!
[03:33] <ios-7-mel> E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_i18n_Translation-en (1)
[03:33] <ios-7-mel> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[03:33] <eeee> good old circumflex ampersand percent percent, i use that one in traffic jams mainly :)
[03:33] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I'm guessing they've cut it out, to stop users having control over their own systems
[03:33] <Bobbo_> I can get into grub shell?
[03:34] <Bobbo_> TJ-: wouldn't surprise me after what I read when looking for service manuals...
[03:34] <ios-7-mel> please help an error accord
[03:34] <ios-7-mel> Reading package lists... Error!
[03:34] <TJ-> Bobbo_: No, UEFI has a powerful shell that can load device-drivers, read file-systems, and allow manual booting of boot managers
[03:34] <ios-7-mel> E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_i18n_Translation-en (1)
[03:34] <ios-7-mel> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[03:34] <TJ-> !patience | ios-7-mel
[03:35] <ios-7-mel> sry and thanks
[03:35] <Bobbo_> So... What now exactly?
[03:35] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Can we throw it at the wall?
[03:35] <Bobbo_> =/
[03:35] <Bashing-om> ios-7-mel: Try: sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists , sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade .
[03:36] <eeee> Bobbo_: https://neosmart.net/blog/2012/windows-8-recovery-disk-download/
[03:36] <bSun0000> hello guys, can someone help me with radeon driver? i have problem with hardware acceleration for h264 codec - no support in vdpauinfo :( only MPEG..
[03:36] <bSun0000> but my gpu (hd3850) have support for h264/vc1 (it works on windows)
[03:36] <bSun0000> wiki/RadeonFeature says, that radeon driver for my card can decode h264 (and i have updated firmware n fresh kernel), but..
[03:36] <bSun0000> trying to achieve full video decoding for several days in a row, but without success (
[03:36] <bSun0000> vdpauinfo http://pastebin.com/pFVwyQKn
[03:36] <eeee> that's a recovery usb, it'll give you a command prompt, use diskpart to mount the partitions, and dism to extract the image with the right index
[03:36] <bSun0000> dmesg | grep radeon http://pastebin.com/tCPuXkkh
[03:37] <TJ-> Bobbo_: 2 choices - vcut your losses, install Ubuntu in legacy BIOS mode, but that'll probably prevent any future chance to get the Recovery image installed, which prevents firmware updates like the one we've been trying to facilitate, or 2) take a breather and try again when we're fresh
[03:37] <eeee> then create the efi files
[03:37] <Bobbo_> eeee: When it says to burn to usb drives, that's basically just saying dd?
[03:37] <eeee> Bobbo_: never used it
[03:38] <eeee> i guess dd
[03:38] <Bobbo_> I'm thinking it might be easier to burn a win7 DVD from this iso I've got and then install Win7 to do this firmware patch.
[03:38] <eeee> if you have a fast connection, it would be pretty easy to restore the pc
[03:39] <TJ-> Bobbo_: eeee We could do the same thing from the Ubuntu Live, but just create a USB stick with the UEIFI shell on it, which *would* boot since it is a true removable device. I suspect our problem here is that firmware doesn't look for the 'simple' boot-manager on fixed hard disks, only on removable media
[03:39] <FuuqUmiist> the update manager is broken, how do i fix it? thanks
[03:39] <Bobbo_> It's 4:40 AM and I'm supposed to be working 'today', done fuck all 'yesterday' because of this laptop, lol.
[03:39] <eeee> like if you knew the commands it would take about 20mins
[03:39] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Get some sleep, let's give it ago another time when we're all fresh
[03:40] <TJ-> Bobbo_: In that time I can create you a small bootable UEFI USB image that I have pre-tested to work
[03:40] <eeee> actually it would take like 10mins tops
[03:41] <Bobbo_> I think installing in legacy mode would be much quicker, tbh. XD
[03:42] <Bobbo_> But; this is supposed to be a uni laptop (4 years of computer science), so something 'better' than that might be a good idea... But given how much of a pita it's been I might buy another.
[03:42] <TJ-> eeee: Have you ever bought and tried that?
[03:42] <slash_T> hi everyone, I am trying to install a .deb file and i get this error: ""dependency is not satisfiable: libqxmlrpc1""
[03:42] <eeee> bought and tried what?
[03:43] <slash_T> I know it is qt4 related, but how can I resolve this problem?
[03:43] <TJ-> eeee: Neosmart's recovery tool?
[03:43] <eeee> bought?
[03:43] <eeee> i thought it was for free
[03:43] <eeee> lol
[03:43] <Bobbo_> slash_T: Try sudo apt-get install libqxmlrpc1 and see why it won't install it
[03:43] <eeee> no, i used the recovery usb that you can make on windows
[03:43] <e87hd> I am having issues with dns. Firefox and Midori are timing out very frequently saying that they cannot resolve hostnames
[03:43] <e87hd> has anyone seen something like this before?
[03:44] <eeee> i thought it was free
[03:44] <TJ-> eeee: Yes, $20 minimum, $40 for Pro, and it is a Linux bootable device with custom tools on - I requested the source-code and they ignored me totally, and it didn't work!
[03:44] <slash_T> Bobbo_: it says unable to locate libqxmlrpc1
[03:44] <FuuqUmiist> is there a command to update the update manager or something?
[03:44] <eeee> ah no,
[03:45] <eeee> if you have an iso
[03:45] <TJ-> eeee: I was trying it last winter to repair a Windows 7 installation... ended up doing it by hand
[03:45] <TJ-> eeee: It made things worse, not better :(
[03:45] <Bobbo_> slash_T: That means either the package for the deb is requesting a package that doesn't exist in your repository lists. Google it, it might be in a separate PPA or in a future version of ubuntu (eg, if you're on Precise still).
[03:45] <eeee> TJ-: i see
[03:45] <Bobbo_> s/either//
[03:46] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I think you get sleep now, give us some time to prepare, and then go again when we're all rested and alert
[03:46] <Bobbo_> Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.
[03:46] <slash_T> Bobbo_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libqxmlrpc1 this is all i could find
[03:46] <TJ-> Bobbo_: If you need to leave a msg, use MemoServ on here
[03:47] <Bobbo_> We will conquer this laptop, not only because I really like the vinyl sticker on the back but it cost my friend 27 quid to post it to me to borrow. :P
[03:47] <Bobbo_> slash_T: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:47] <Bobbo_> well, doesn't matter...
[03:47] <TJ-> slash_T: Is that on 14.04, and do you have the "Universe" section enabled?
[03:47] <slash_T> Bobbo_: 12.01
[03:48] <Bobbo_> Basically what TJ- just said, you need to include packages from universe repos.
[03:48] <Bobbo_> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe multiverse"
[03:48] <Bobbo_> That should work, I think.
[03:48] <Bobbo_> Well, you don't need the multiverse bit
[03:48] <slash_T> TJ-: I am running a live version of ubuntu 12
[03:50] <TJ-> Bobbo_: eeee good-night/morning! for now
[03:50] <slash_T> wow all done nice people, you have literally saved my freaked up hairy ass, thanks <3
[03:51] <slash_T> It is done nice and easy
[03:51] <slash_T> bless you all
[03:51] <Bobbo_> Yes, sleepytime.
[03:52] <slash_T> may god keep you all from harms way people. You have no idea, how much you have helped me.
[03:52] <slash_T> bye for now
[03:53] <afidegnum> I am stuck please ? I am trying to configure wsgi  and I am having error....  my apache.conf http://pastebin.com/9EnxMnBA I have an error WSGISocketPrefix cannot occur within <VirtualHost> section Action 'configtest' failed. what should I place?
[03:57] <somsip> afidegnum: spurious </IfModule> on line 49. No opening entry from what I can tell
[03:57] <slash_T> sorry if i am disturbing you again, but the same command for trusty (14.04) would be     "sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe multiverse"    is that right?
[03:58] <afidegnum> somsip: I don't get you
[03:58] <somsip> afidegnum: in fact, scrolling down it's all a bit of a mess. I suggest you tidy it up. You have </VirtualHost> on 44 and 62 and 81.
[04:00] <eshamow> question re libreadline-dev on precise - having trouble getting it to install as part of preseed.cfg, which works just fine in 10.04. i see libreadline, just not the -dev package. according to this it exists: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libreadline-dev
[04:00] <eshamow> any tips?
[04:03] <afidegnum> somsip: I was disc, are you there?
[04:04] <somsip> afidegnum: yes
[04:06] <afidegnum> somsip: this is what I have done
[04:08] <shubho> BCM43142 does not show my wifi network but shows neibors wifi network
[04:09] <sargas> why is my font size so small on Ubuntu 14.04?
[04:09] <afidegnum> what do you think can be the issue   but I am still
[04:09] <sargas> that was after a restart
[04:09] <shubho> BCM43142 does not show my wifi network but shows neibors wifi network
[04:10] <hollenjf> anyone here from the houston tx area? pm me if u can chat
[04:10] <somsip> afidegnum: the structure of the conf file is all wrong. You need to fix it
[04:11] <afidegnum> how should it be plesse?
[04:11] <hollenjf> have something to ask that I dont want to put on a public channel
[04:11] <somsip> !pm | hollenjf
[04:12] <somsip> afidegnum: I'm not going to talk you through it step by step. You need to research what a Django apache conf file should look like or get some advice from the #django channel (or whatever it is)
[04:13] <afidegnum> somsip: I asked them earlier, and they refered me to httpd the guy at httpd channel is rude and arrogant towards me
[04:13] <soahccc> Hey guys. Any idea why `aptitude install ruby2.0` installs 1.9.3? It's not a virtual package so I'm confused :S
[04:13] <sargas>  the following command fixed it for me:
[04:13] <sargas> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface text-scaling-factor '1.0'
[04:13] <sargas> Now I wonder why that happened in the first place
[04:14] <somsip> afidegnum: you have not done a good job of editing the file. That's why I don't want to help you. As well as it being nothing to do with #ubuntu. So I'm done here
[04:14] <somsip> !info ruby | soahccc
[04:14] <eshamow> afidegnum: you are probably better off asking someone with django experience
[04:14] <somsip> !info ruby2.0 | soahccc
[04:15] <eshamow> think of these as frameworks built atop each other - the closer you can get to your target the more knowledge you will find
[04:15] <eshamow> more likely to find a django expert who can help you with apache on ubuntu than asking in the ubuntu channel about specific non-ubuntu tech
[04:15] <somsip> eshamow: I use django and he's made a mess of the conf. He needs help from the the #django channel, like you've said, and I've said. OT here
[04:15] <afidegnum> somsip: can you please lend a hand? I have been trying to find a solution for more than 5 hours now, I haven't slept since midnight
[04:15] <eshamow> somsip: ::nod::
[04:16] <soahccc> somsip, so do I need to do something extra to get the "extra" or what am I missing here? :(
[04:16] <eshamow> !info libreadline-dev
[04:17] <somsip> soahccc: are you on trusty 14.04?
[04:17] <soahccc> somsip, yap
[04:18] <somsip> soahccc: I don't use aptitude, but apt-get install ruby2.0 --dry-run gives exactly what I'd expect here. ruby2.0 libruby2.0 and rubygems-integration. Can you paste the output you get?
[04:19] <soahccc> somsip, https://gist.github.com/2called-chaos/dbf41c821893e883ee85 I gonna try apt-get, hang on
[04:20] <somsip> soahccc: no need. Try 'ruby2.0 -v'
[04:21] <sargas> if I install lubuntu desktop on my ubuntu 14.04, I'm just getting the UI modules right?
[04:22] <soahccc> somsip, does not work :( and apt-get does show some "extra" stuff but it also installs 1.9.3
[04:23] <soahccc> somsip, it's weird "ruby2.0 is already installed at the requested version" but it's not there
[04:24] <somsip> soahccc: maybe a bad guess by me. I expected it to be like python and python3 - different binaries. What was ruby<tab><tab> give you as candidates?
[04:25] <soahccc> somsip, you may facepalm if you wish... it's right there ruby2.0 >.<
[04:25] <somsip> soahccc: so it's ok?
[04:27] <somsip> soahccc: afk now
[04:27] <soahccc> somsip, yeah it works... thanks!
[04:33] <jr_> How do I add an environment variable?
[04:34] <kiwi100> jr_: use the export command
[04:34] <kiwi100> e.g. to set a proxy run
[04:34] <kiwi100> export http_proxy=172.16.16.1
[04:34] <kiwi100> you can set these tings in your .bashrc file
[04:35] <kiwi100> so they persist
[04:35] <jr_> kiwi100: thanks
[04:35] <kiwi100> yw
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> is there a GUI package to manage services like CUPS?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> i wanna be able to change upstart deamons in GUI
[05:07] <Fall> Afternoon all, various aspects about my U
[05:08] <Fall> Afternoon all, various aspects about my Ubuntu VM networking are concerning me - such as slow SSH connections, transfer of files, etc etc - I've changed the network interface adaptor to 1000E, as suggested in some forum threads... I feel that throughput hasn't increased / improved after doing such
[05:09] <AlonzoTG> Sometime between my last job interview and the one I tried to have this morning, the ubuntu update stream broke and obfuscated the audio support for my eeepc. =(
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> AlonzoTG: wich ubuntu version?
[05:09] <Rockwood> what is the solution for failed to start session
[05:10] <Rockwood> in ubuntu 14.04
[05:10] <AlonzoTG> The link maze led me to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/alsa-daily/+packages -- And I don't even know whether any of those will help me.
[05:11] <AlonzoTG> 12.04 on 32-bit, machine has 4 gb internal storage and 8gb on a memory stick hanging off the side.
[05:11] <foosman> anyone know about raid1 setups?  I had one setup and tried to add another set of drives and now I can't boot to original sys.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !raid | foosman
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> AlonzoTG: maybe try 14.04 on your eeepc
[05:13] <AlonzoTG> the upgrade button just errors out on me very early in the process, there is 0 free storage...
[05:13] <AlonzoTG> even after cleaning up after the mess the updater leaves behind.
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> AlonzoTG: install it clean
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: you can try grub/recoverymode
[05:15] <Rockwood> lotuspsychje: where to run this command?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: hold shift at boot, and choose ubuntu (recoverymode)
[05:16] <Rockwood> ok let me try
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: after that you can try failsafeX or fix broken packages
[05:18] <foosman> hello
[05:21] <Rockwood> lotuspsychje: it is showing 4 options in failsafex mode, 1- run in low graph, 2- reconfigure graphic 3-troubleshoot err & 4-exitto console login. which one to choose?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: try lowgraphic mode first maybe
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: see if you can enter your desktop
[05:22] <Rockwood> ok
[05:24] <Rockwood> lotuspsychje: it showing stand by one minute while the display restarts -
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: did you install ubuntu with internet connection?
[05:25] <Rockwood> yes i think
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:26] <Rockwood> and also selected install with update options
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: does it let you enter desktop now?
[05:27] <Rockwood> nope the same erroe
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: try the fix broken packages
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> that might take a while
[05:29] <Rockwood> ok
[05:32] <Rockwood> lotuspsychje: thanks for your help. I am going to reinstall.
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: whats your grafix card chip?
[05:32] <Rockwood> laptop
[05:32] <Rockwood> toshiba satellite c640
[05:32] <Rockwood> don't know the graphic chip model
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: maybe some went wrong with grafix driver
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: make sure you enable internet during setup, and download 3rd party software
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> and updates during setup
[05:34] <Rockwood> lotuspsychje: ok this time i will select this option
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: good luck
[05:35] <Rockwood> lotuspsychje: thanks
[05:55] <bentinata> Can somebody help me to merge CI and Laravel website?
[05:56] <somsip> bentinata: that sounds like a CI or a Laravel issue. NOt really ubuntu support
[05:56] <bentinata> Umm, not sure where to ask this.
[05:56] <bentinata> Care to redirect me?
[05:57] <afidegnum>  I am trying to configure wsgi  and I am having error....  my apache.conf http://pastebin.com/9EnxMnBA I have an error WSGISocketPrefix cannot occur within <VirtualHost> section Action 'configtest' failed. what should I place?
[05:57] <somsip> bentinata: Not here. Either Laravel channel/forums or the CI agent (Jenkins or whatever you'
[05:57] <somsip> bentinata: Not here. Either Laravel channel/forums or the CI agent (Jenkins or whatever you're using)
[05:57] <somsip> !alis | bentinata
[05:57] <Blaster> bentinata: Sounds like you want someone to do work for you, so I recommend Elance.
[05:58] <bentinata> Blaster, I'm asked to create page by my friend. And at the end, I just found out that he's using CI.
[05:59] <bentinata> Blaster, every page created by me read as 404.
[06:02] <vagvaf> hello, i repeatedly asked about authentication when i press the super button and type something on the search enry, this problem appeared after installing unity (i have gnome) and logging in from gnome..
[06:03] <vagvaf> any solutions?
[06:09] <noregret> how can I check if root is enabled?
[06:10] <ObrienDave> it is
[06:11] <ObrienDave> !root
[06:13] <Blaster> How do you get the latest ruby gems with apt?
[06:14] <Blaster> Or what's the recommended way?
[06:15] <noregret> ObrienDave: I landed on a system that my colleague has installed, so I'm not sure if he enabled the root account or not, is there a way to check for that ?
[06:15] <noregret> ObrienDave: I do have the sudo power as well
[06:17] <boris1> hello hope any one can help
[06:17] <boris1> i just installed ubuntu14.04
[06:17] <ObrienDave> noregret, in terminal, sudo -i
[06:17] <hateball> !ask | boris1
[06:17] <boris1> how do you have auto number lock on when booting
[06:18] <hateball> boris1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[06:24] <foosman> something is hanging on boot, but I can't read the characters.  is there a log somewhere?  (ubuntu 12.04 serv)
[06:26] <terrastl> hi folks, I am trying to move a lot of files from one hard disk to another one, and the problem is that I need to checksum all the files after move, how can I verify a lot of files using md5 ?
[06:27] <somsip> terrastl: use rsync http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30970/does-rsync-verify-files-copied-between-two-local-drives
[06:29] <terrastl> I remember that I could use the command md5sum for this, and them it would generate a txt file containing the list of files and their md5s and then I could run a similar command on the destionation folder.
[06:29] <terrastl> I need to use md5sum command
[06:30] <peterrooney> terrastl: you don't *need* to use md5sum. may be better off using rsync.
[06:31] <terrastl> I know where you are going with this, but trying to explain my special situation would take a long while folks, please.
[06:31] <terrastl> I trully need md5sum
[06:31] <somsip> terrastl: then you will probably need to search for your own solution. And you'll probably see that many answers will say 'use rsync'
[06:32] <terrastl> can you  please at least tell me how to store the md5sum of a lot of files into a text file?
[06:32] <geirha> terrastl: find . -type f -exec md5sum {} + > /tmp/md5sums   # and on the destination: #   md5sum -c /tmp/md5sums
[06:32] <terrastl> including the files in the subdirectories?
[06:33] <geirha> don't have to use /tmp of course, you should just make sure it's outside find's way
[06:34] <terrastl> geirha: bless you geirha
[06:55] <baboonUSA> For decades, White America has been indoctrinated to think Black people are "just like us". The liberal media portrayed them that way, put them on TV shows playing mainstream characters - including cops, doctors, nurses, lawyers, judges, etc. - all to make White Americans believe Blacks really did want to participate in society as equal, decent, hardworking, tax paying citizens. And many of us fell for it, hook, line and sinker! We
[06:56] <ObrienDave> oh lordy, another one
[06:58] <cynicallemon> ObrienDave: what you mean another one those windows users with malware?
[06:59] <baboonUSA> I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve pro
[06:59] <geirha> !ops
[06:59] <evil_dan2wik> k
[07:00] <ObrienDave> (~bigg00n@static-74-214-35-97.cpe.metrocast.net): bigg00n
[07:02] <somsip> !info php5-src
[07:03] <JumpTheNextTrain> !cn somsip
[07:03] <baboonUSA> ObrienDave what
[07:03] <evil_dan2wik> baboonUSA, you see what you are doing right?
[07:04] <baboonUSA> evil_dan2wik no I don't. Tell me.
[07:04] <evil_dan2wik> cynicallemon, actually, android
[07:05] <cynicallemon> evil_dan2wik: lol
[07:05] <Flannel> baboonUSA: Please don't do that here, this is a technical support channel, not a discussion channel.  Thanks.
[07:05] <evil_dan2wik> baboonUSA, go ahead and make your own channel for discussing that stuff.
[07:06] <ashadiqi> is this an official support channel for ubuntu user?
[07:06] <cynicallemon> evil_dan2wik: more like a mikrotik
[07:06] <BQ> what is ipp service for?
[07:06] <ObrienDave> ashadiqi, yes, it is
[07:07] <evil_dan2wik> cynicallemon, the point is, he is using his phone to type the messages
[07:08] <evil_dan2wik> cynicallemon, the message timings are in time with someone using a cruddy phone keyboard
[07:08] <cynicallemon> evil_dan2wik: could be worse, could be a new iphone
[07:09] <evil_dan2wik> cynicallemon, 'new'
[07:14] <ashadiqi> I just installed XFCE environment on Ubuntu Trusty, the network indicator doesn't show up in the panel
[07:15] <geirha> Sorry about the !ops triggering, I thought it was going to be one of those long nonsensical stories spanning screenfulls
[07:15] <ObrienDave> he's trolling
[07:16] <ashadiqi> i've tried checking the panel setting, no network indicator option shows there
[07:17] <evil_dan2wik> geirha, I think he stopped when we asked
[07:17] <ashadiqi> can somebody help me how to show network indicator in xfce desktop?
[07:17] <geirha> ashadiqi: which package(s) did you install exactly?
[07:17] <cynicallemon> ashadiqi: is this the gnome network manager?
[07:17] <ashadiqi> xfce4
[07:17] <ObrienDave> ashadiqi, in XFCE it's called indicator plugin
[07:17] <geirha> ashadiqi: xfce4 alone will not be enough; best install the xubuntu-desktop package instead
[07:19] <ashadiqi> so, should i remove the existing XFCE package first?
[07:19] <geirha> ashadiqi: nah, it will just be reinstalled because xubuntu-desktop depends on it.
[07:20] <swiftblade> alguien q me ayude
[07:20] <swiftblade> tengo unas dudas con ubuntu 14.04
[07:20] <ashadiqi> cynicallemnon: not it's not
[07:21] <ObrienDave> !es | swiftblade
[07:21] <swiftblade> thanx
[07:22] <ObrienDave> np
[07:22] <weylandUtani> swiftblade Hola swiftblade, en que podemos ayudarte?
[07:22] <ashadiqi> geirha: so i just type in sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, right?
[07:22] <geirha> ashadiqi: yes, and it will install all the xfce components you'd have from a fresh Xubuntu install
[07:23] <geirha> including a way to configure the network
[07:23] <cynicallemon> which will be gnome-network-manager
[07:23] <ashadiqi> geirha: okay, i'll try it out. thanks
[07:24] <ObrienDave> ashadiqi, you will be able to select XFCE from the logon screen also
[07:25] <tkat> stuff here sounds interesting...tho thats probably cuz im a linux n00b
[07:25] <tkat> lol
[07:25] <ashadiqi> it works!!!
[07:25] <ObrienDave> \o/ YAY
[07:26] <ashadiqi> and the desktop looks better
[07:26] <evil_dan2wik> I ran a dist-upgrade and my laptop froze halfway through and now it says it is latest version, what do I do>
[07:26] <evil_dan2wik> ?
[07:26] <evil_dan2wik> when I log in, it says it is still 13.10
[07:26] <ashadiqi> thanks guys
[07:26] <geirha> evil_dan2wik: dist-upgrade won't upgrade to the next release
[07:26] <tkat> probably burn a disc with latest ubuntu/create flash drive
[07:27] <tkat> and install from that
[07:27] <ObrienDave> evil_dan2wik, do-release-upgrade
[07:27] <evil_dan2wik> oh ok
[07:28] <evil_dan2wik> no, it still says latest version
[07:28] <tkat> like i said
[07:28] <evil_dan2wik> tkat, re-install will be one of the last things I do.
[07:28] <evil_dan2wik> I have about 70 things I need to keep
[07:28] <tkat> oh
[07:29] <evil_dan2wik> and I have no idea how to transfer them.
[07:29] <tkat> cant upgrade from discs?! o-o
[07:29] <ObrienDave> you can reinstall and keep your documents
[07:29] <evil_dan2wik> ObrienDave, not documents
[07:29] <tkat> this is why i personally stay on lts releases...
[07:29] <ObrienDave> settings, installed programs, etc
[07:30] <evil_dan2wik> tkat, I thought I was on the LTS release on this laptop but it turns out I downloaded the wrong version
[07:30] <evil_dan2wik> ObrienDave, various programs that I have no clue where they keep the configs
[07:30] <tkat> lts is 14.04
[07:30] <cynicallemon> ObrienDave: is the reinstall bug fixed yet?
[07:30] <tkat> or 12.04
[07:30] <ObrienDave> cynicallemon, what reinstall bug?
[07:30] <yassine> hi
[07:30] <tkat> hi
[07:30] <geirha> evil_dan2wik: make sure you have a working internet connection on the box
[07:31] <evil_dan2wik> tkat, I thought I got 14.04 but I ended up with 13.04 and then I upgraded to 13.10
[07:31] <evil_dan2wik> geirha, working as in?
[07:31] <evil_dan2wik> geirha, I am on the box right now.
[07:31] <evil_dan2wik> talking to you.
[07:31] <tkat> oh
[07:32] <geirha> evil_dan2wik: Ok. Odd. sudo do-release-upgrade should've detected 14.04
[07:32] <CodeGosu> if i rotate screen, do i have to manualy change cleartype rendering? does cleartype support vertical subpixel orientation?
[07:32] <cynicallemon> ObrienDave: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192
[07:33] <cynicallemon> always, always, always make a backup before a major upgrade
[07:34] <tkat> what are the ups/downs of using ubuntu over linux mint
[07:34] <geirha> ouch, such bug
[07:34] <tkat> not including the obvious codecs missing in ubuntu
[07:34] <tkat> cuz theyre close sourced
[07:35] <fa7ad> hello everyone, i was wondering if there was a way to re order the close-minimize-maximize buttons on unity. I'm on 14.04
[07:36] <fa7ad> tkat, cinnamon/mate is better than unity imho.
[07:37] <asad2005> Is there a feedly ubuntu app? i am using liferea for so long but lately i am having problem with it marking items read from time to time
[07:37] <tkat> fa7ad, pleez tell me what imho means, something ive wonsered for ages
[07:37] <cynicallemon> fa7ad: both sit atop a rather dicey gnome shell imho
[07:38] <tkat> true
[07:38] <geirha> tkat: in my humble opinion
[07:39] <tkat> geirha: thanks
[07:39] <geirha> tkat: and imo is the same, just without humble
[07:39] <tkat> figured as much...
[07:39] <pumbaway> if im converting videos using the command line and i use something like avconv -i /home/me/videos/*
[07:39] <fa7ad> cynicallemon, its true that they are both based on gnome 3 but these forks are amazingly stable. and personally the gnome2-ish look appeals a lot of users too
[07:39] <pumbaway> how do i specify that command to use the same filenames as the input file
[07:40] <ObrienDave> cynicallemon, well, that could be dangerous. best to use the "something else" option
[07:40] <pumbaway> for the output file but different extension
[07:40] <cynicallemon> fa7ad: well for gnome 2ish we have mate
[07:41] <tkat> i use cinnamon
[07:41] <tkat> i still have a lm 9 disc lying around
[07:41] <tkat> hi
[07:41] <cynicallemon> ObrienDave: yeah, trouble with automation is that it only take one person to screw up many people
[07:41] <fa7ad> cynicallemon, cinnamon's ui is a bit fancier. mate is good nonetheless
[07:41] <pumbaway> anyone?
[07:42] <pumbaway> please help
[07:42] <tkat> so basically cinnamon is mate but fancier
[07:42] <fa7ad> tkat, whaaaa? lm 9? 17 is running... 9 is ancient
[07:42] <pearl_> hello
[07:42] <cynicallemon> fa7ad: i just dont like the lack of customization in gnome now
[07:42] <tkat> i know....
[07:43] <pumbaway> if im converting videos using the command line and i use something like avconv -i /home/me/videos/*
[07:43] <fa7ad> cynicallemon, cinnamon is pretty customizable afaik.
[07:43] <tkat> pumbaway: use handbrake
[07:43] <tkat> pumbaway: or vlc, it can do thag
[07:43] <tkat> that
[07:43] <geirha> pumbaway: for file in ~/Videos/*.avi; do avconv ... -i "$file" "${file%.avi}.mp4"; done
[07:44] <cynicallemon> fa7ad: im just getting bored with all the sideways forking which doesnt forward linux
[07:44] <tkat> fa7ad: i like the compiz effects
[07:45] <tkat> hi
[07:45] <geirha> pumbaway: I don't know avconv, so you'll have to figure out the right options and such, but if "$file" is foo.avi, "${file%.avi}.mp4" will be foo.mp4
[07:45] <tkat> pumbaway: or, like i said before, use handbrake or vlc, its easier and uses a gui
[07:46] <fa7ad> cynicallemon, http://www.picpaste.com/VfJBHyJa.png this is my desktop on mint 16 cinnamon
[07:47] <tkat> fa7ad: cool, mate or cinnamon?
[07:47] <fa7ad> tkat, cinnamon
[07:47] <tkat> fa7ad: and lotsa love for the wallpaper :3
[07:48] <fa7ad> tkat, i don't remember the name of the wallpaper, a friend suggested that one
[07:48] <tkat> hi
[07:49] <tkat> hi
[07:50] <somsip> tkat: do you have a support question?
[07:50] <tkat> no
[07:50] <fa7ad> tkat, what's with the repeated hi?
[07:50] <tkat> because someone joind then someone else did
[07:50] <tkat> so i said hi to welcome them
[07:50] <geirha> there are over 1600 in here. Are you going to say hi to all of them?
[07:51] <somsip> tkat: if you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-topic. If you say hi and bye to everyone who comes and goes here it'll get very silly
[07:51] <cynicallemon> lol
[07:51] <ashadiqi_> tkat, you're a good guy
[07:51] <cynicallemon> hi universe...
[07:51] <tkat> just trying to be nice...gosh...
[07:52] <somsip> tkat: you'll find it will annoy people who are help to help others. Because so many people join here, say hi. Then ask to ask a question, then it all goes downhill from there.
[07:52] <geirha> besides, most of the ones that join are idlers, so they won't see your "hi" anyway
[07:52] <tkat> really?
[07:52] <fa7ad> geirha, true that
[07:52] <Guest29918> hi, I downloaded and used unetbootin to install xubuntu 14 from my hard drive, I rebooted from xp into xubuntu live which worked fine, then I ran install, which displayed no partitions for install and crashed when i tried to create them
[07:53] <somsip> tkat: hang around, look for opportunities to help, and you're welcome. Or join #ubuntu-offtopic to say hi to everyone :)
[07:53] <tkat> somsip: ok
[07:54] <tkat> Guest29918: silly question, i know, but are your computers specs good for xubuntu?
[07:54] <fa7ad> ok so anybody with a solution to my problem? reordering close-minimize-maximize buttons on unity
[07:54] <Guido1> Does anyone know how to get the think pad e540 out of the suspend / hypernate mode?
[07:54] <Guest29918> should be 80gb harddrive, pentium 4, 1gb ram
[07:54] <fa7ad> Guido1, press the power button O.o
[07:54] <tkat> fa7ad: lol
[07:55] <Guido1> fa7ad: pressing it short: nothing, pressing it long: off
[07:55] <fa7ad> Guest29918, try using a gparted live disk
[07:55] <tkat> take the battery out, putit back in then press the powr button i guess?
[07:55] <fa7ad> Guido1, what happens when you press any key on the keyboard?
[07:55] <Guido1> fa7ad: nothing
[07:56] <fa7ad> Guido1, might seem weird do you have AMD gpu by any chance
[07:56] <tkat> Guest29918, what are your specs?
[07:57] <Guest29918> have no rewriteable cds, dvds or usb stick so attempting to install xubuntu through unetbootin from hard drive
[07:57] <Guido1> fa7ad: intel celeron i5 if you mean that
[07:57] <Guido1> *intel core i5
[07:57] <tkat> Guido1: thats the cpu
[07:58] <tkat> Guido1: he means graphics card
[07:58] <tkat> Guest29918, maybe thats the problem?
[07:58] <Guido1> fa7ad: grapic card is also from intel
[07:59] <fa7ad> Guido1, nope was asking because i had a similar problem while using fglrx on saucy, but got fixed by changing to fglrx-updates
[07:59] <tkat> Guido1: intel hd graphics/iris graphics?
[07:59] <cynicallemon> fa7ad: this might answer your problem - http://geekum.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/how-to-move-the-close-button-in-gnome-shell-3-4-to-the-left-like-ubuntu/
[07:59] <tkat> Guido1: thats maybe the problem. i dont think integrated graphics work well.
[08:00] <Guest29918> once xubutu live has loaded I click Install Xubutu cd icon from desktop, brings up welcome screen, I select english then preparing for install, I press continue then it stalls for very long time, doesn't show any partitions and crashes when i try to create them
[08:00] <tkat> Guest29918, try the alternative cd instead of live one
[08:01] <tkat> ive never used unetbootin so im not sure if itd be there, but see
[08:02] <Guest29918> trouble is I'm networking off a TP-Link wifi card so netinstall load doesn't pick up dhcp connection
[08:02] <Guido1> fa7ad, tkat: Intel HD Graphics 4600
[08:02] <Guest29918> have no lan cable either
[08:05] <tkat> im back
[08:05] <tkat> Guest29918: try the alternate cd!!
[08:06] <Guest29918> alright, I'll try that way round the problem, thanks for your time :)
[08:06] <tkat> ok
[08:06] <tkat> your welcome
[08:06] <CodeGosu> is it easy to "move"(mount? i recall i saw such ability to mount /home into other place when i was installing system ) /home into other harddrive  ? might it break anything?
[08:07] <fa7ad> Guest29918, check your partition table using a gparted live disk if you can
[08:07] <tkat> CodeGosu: i think it would break a lot of applicstions
[08:08] <streulma> who's running Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro Retina? The main resolution is 2560 x 1600, I should consider running it on 1680 x 1050, 1440 x 900 is not a normal setting and a bit blurry. Thoughts if it is good?
[08:09] <awestroke> streulma: run on the main/max resolution, and try to change the UI scale instead
[08:09] <fa7ad> CodeGosu, how about a symbolic link. did you try that? its likely to break some apps though
[08:09] <fa7ad> streulma, change the DPI settings
[08:09] <streulma> awestroke, from Ubuntu "Display" menu?
[08:10] <awestroke> streulma: I found this: http://oldpapyrus.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/ui-scale/
[08:10] <awestroke> streulma: try 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 etc
[08:13] <awestroke> fa7ad: how do you change DPI settings?
[08:13] <tkat> awestorke: google it
[08:13] <ObrienDave> should be in either display or appearance
[08:14] <fa7ad> awestroke, settings -> display
[08:15] <awestroke> fa7ad: http://i.imgur.com/rKMJuMZ.png
[08:16] <fa7ad> awestroke, http://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi/462023#462023
[08:17] <fa7ad> awestroke, on 14.04 awestroke
[08:17] <fa7ad> awestroke, on 14.04 http://www.picpaste.com/1F7y9shu.png *
[08:17] <awestroke> lsb_release -d -> Description:  Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[08:18] <awestroke> I am running xmonad with gnome classic components, do I get other settings because of that?
[08:19] <CodeGosu> when i try to upgrade,i get this. WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libefl libelementary libelementary-data. it gives me option to still  continue, but i wish to fix it the right way, if i understand corectly i need some set of public keys to verify this packages, how to corectly install stuff in such situation without worying about mitm?
[08:19] <fa7ad> awestroke, i think the settings are related to Unity
[08:22] <fa7ad> CodeGosu, did you add any custom repo?
[08:22] <CodeGosu> probably 100+ of them
[08:24] <havarka> hi guys, i am using Chrome, and when I click on magnet link on thepiratebay or kickass i guess it aplly to any other site as well, instead of opening the deluge its just open new window in google, how to make it work? Thanks
[08:24] <fa7ad> CodeGosu, can't help you then. any one of the hundreds could have a missing GPG key
[08:25] <myeagleflies> hello
[08:25] <zubairahmed> hi myeagleflies
[08:25] <fa7ad> havarka, http://askubuntu.com/questions/108925/how-to-tell-chrome-what-to-do-with-a-magnet-link
[08:25] <myeagleflies> how to change number of workspaces in ubuntu 14.04? I've found a website suggesting installation of MyUnity but can't find it
[08:26] <fa7ad> myeagleflies, install Unity Tweak TOol
[08:26] <myeagleflies> cool. thanks
[08:26] <myeagleflies> BTW: I think it sucks there is just one workspace by default
[08:27] <fa7ad> myeagleflies, there is 4 by default
[08:27] <havarka> fa7ad, which answer should I follow?
[08:27] <fa7ad> myeagleflies, press Super(winkey)+S
[08:28] <fa7ad> havarka, try the 1sr
[08:28] <fa7ad> havarka, try the 1st
[08:28] <myeagleflies> fa7ad: and?
[08:28] <havarka> fa7ad, dont have a transmission
[08:28] <fa7ad> myeagleflies, you can see the 4 workspaces -_-
[08:28] <myeagleflies> no, there is just one
[08:29] <ObrienDave> myeagleflies, and you can have up to 99
[08:29] <myeagleflies> I had 4 workspaces before in 12.04. but upgraded to 14.04
[08:29] <fa7ad> myeagleflies, well then install unity tweak tool and add some
[08:29] <user123321> Greetings Ubuntu experts.
[08:29] <ObrienDave> i have 16
[08:29] <fa7ad> ObrienDave :P
[08:29] <myeagleflies> ObrienDave: sure, I'm aware I can have more but after upgrader there is just 1
[08:30] <ObrienDave> so? fix it
[08:30] <fa7ad> havarka, what do you use for torrenting?
[08:30] <ObrienDave> deluge!
[08:30] <havarka> fa7ad, deluge
[08:30] <myeagleflies> ObrienDave: well, all I'm saying is it is not user friendly now. it was much easier to change number of workspaces in gnome 2d
[08:30] <havarka> :)
[08:31] <ObrienDave> myeagleflies, that's why i use XFCE ;)
[08:31] <virgosign> does this channel aply  to ubuntu studio.  .
[08:31] <fa7ad> havarka, well then just change the deluge files where it mentions transmission
[08:31] <ObrienDave> http://www.picpaste.com/pics/yoda_newbie_sm.1410424079.jpg
[08:32] <fa7ad> virgosign, ask your question anyhow. we will help if we can
[08:32] <ObrienDave> virgosign, up to a point, yes
[08:32] <virgosign> ok
[08:32] <vinit-ivar> hello lads
[08:32] <vinit-ivar> bit of a question
[08:32] <vinit-ivar> how do i redirect my internet connection through another pc?
[08:33] <vinit-ivar> they're all on the same server, but i want one of the PCs to have authorization over the others
[08:33] <havarka> fa7ad, ? i dont have a transmission, .torrent files have an association with deluge, but still when i click on magnet-links it doesnt work
[08:33] <pumbaway> .wmv is such an annoying format
[08:33] <pumbaway> .. blagh
[08:33] <ObrienDave> havarka, copy the magnet link, paste into the URL field under add torrent
[08:34] <hateball> vinit-ivar: Are you looking to setup a proxy on your LAN, through which all machines must pass to reach the WAN?
[08:34] <ObrienDave> havarka, there is a setting to associate magnet links in deluge
[08:34] <ObrienDave> havarka, it works ;P
[08:34] <havarka> ObrienDave, where is that setting?
[08:35] <vinit-ivar> hateball: sort of
[08:35] <vinit-ivar> it's over wifi
[08:35] <fa7ad> ObrienDave havarka, the link I gave has a clear answer. just wherever the guy mentions transmission, replace it with deluge -_-
[08:35] <vinit-ivar> as in, all the PCs are on the network. i need to redirect all but one through the one boss PC
[08:35] <vinit-ivar> reroute, rather
[08:35] <hateball> !squid
[08:35] <havarka> fa7ad, but i DONT have a deluge install on my pc
[08:35] <hateball> vinit-ivar: That might be what you want ^
[08:35] <fa7ad> ObrienDave, havarka, http://askubuntu.com/questions/108925/how-to-tell-chrome-what-to-do-with-a-magnet-link
[08:36] <vinit-ivar> thanks, i'll take a look
[08:36] <ObrienDave> havarka, preferences, other
[08:36] <vinit-ivar> cheers
[08:36] <fa7ad> havarka if you don't have deluge, what the f are you trying to achieve?
[08:36] <havarka> sorry, i dont have a transmission
[08:36] <ObrienDave> fa7ad, she said she has deluge. chill dude
[08:37] <havarka> word mistake
[08:37] <hateball> vinit-ivar: Oh, and you need it to be transparent unless you have control over all the clients http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/InterceptionProxy
[08:38] <havarka> fa7ad, so which of those answer should i do?!
[08:38] <vinit-ivar> could you elaborate?
[08:39] <ObrienDave> havarka, whichever works for you.
[08:39] <havarka> fa7ad, :-)
[08:40] <TurkerTunali> Hi guys. Can you please check my problem? http://hastebin.com/raw/vobejofoyu
[08:40] <TurkerTunali> It is related to ubuntu server and SSH
[08:40] <fa7ad> havarka, http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-09-11_14_37_39-mVEwuZKP.png
[08:41] <havarka> fa7ad, thx
[08:42] <TurkerTunali> I've lost a week for that problem
[08:43] <zubairahmed> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/locale-cannot-set-lc_all-to-default-locale-no-such-file-or-directory-218622/
[08:44] <oleole> Where can I see which commands Ubuntu sends to my 3g USB modem?
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[08:45] <TurkerTunali> zubairahmed: I am checking
[08:45] <fa7ad> goodbye cruel channel :P
[08:46] <geirha> TurkerTunali: Either change your locale to en_US.UTF8 before connecting, or generate the tr_TR.UTF-8 locale on the remote end
[08:47] <geirha> !locale | TurkerTunali
[08:48] <TurkerTunali> should I correct my locale settings on the remote machine or my local Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:48] <hateball> TurkerTunali: The remote machine is the one that cant load the requested locale
[08:48] <TurkerTunali> my locale command gives no error but TR and EN combined
[08:49] <TurkerTunali> I want everthing english on the remote machine by the way
[08:49] <Thooth> good day
[08:54] <geirha> TurkerTunali: then  LANG=en_US.UTF8 ssh user@host
[08:55] <LeMike> damn it. can i prevent xfce4 to switch the workspaces in circles?? the last one shouldn't swap to the first one when cycling through
[08:58] <geirha> LeMike: Don't know. Maybe see if #xubuntu knows
[08:59] <LeMike> uh. extra channel. nice :) thx geirha
[08:59] <savior> fuck
[08:59] <geirha> language
[08:59] <ObrienDave> LeMike, there is a setting for non wrapping
[09:00] <ObrienDave> LeMike, Window Manager Tweaks, Workspaces tab, 3rd one down
[09:02] <ObrienDave> oh, and you're welcome, btw
[09:12] <hillary> Am not able to connect the net using my broadband modem
[09:12] <hillary> It keeps disconnecting
[09:12] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[09:12] <hillary> It used to work well
[09:25] <Nokiabot> is gma950 sufficent for ubuntu 14.04
[09:26] <sexyboy> Nokiabot: should be
[09:26] <hillary> any help on what might have happened to my broadband modem connection/
[09:27] <haha_> boring..
[09:30] <haha_> total mem 768m, 458 using....how terrible it is
[09:31] <haha_> cpu is always 99 per
[09:32] <Nokiabot> Haha:its horrible not terrible :p
[09:34] <ashadiqi> bittorent client other than transmissions?
[09:34] <haha_> :P in fact i don't know the difference between them
[09:35] <Nokiabot> Hehe:
[09:36] <Guest20307> files from unetbuntu came down corrupted now have no xp installation to reinstall xubuntu live on usb stick, is there anyway I can repair the usb stick install from live?
[09:36] <haha_> Nokiabot: English is not my mother tongue
[09:37] <Nokiabot> Haha:me neither :p
[09:39] <hillary> ikiona: Any help on my broadband modem disconnection?
[09:41] <ObrienDave> hillary, does it work occasionally?
[09:42] <hillary> It used to work well
[09:42] <ObrienDave> not what i asked
[09:43] <hillary> Am saying it used to connect well infact when i used it with ubuntu altimate edition it works perfect but when i switch to ubuntu 12.04 it does not work
[09:44] <ObrienDave> what brand of modem is it?
[09:44] <hillary> huawei
[09:45] <ObrienDave> model number?
[09:46] <hillary> E660
[09:48] <cart_man> Hey when I try and compile my kernel module i get the following errors... Does it mean that I dont have the right header files installed on my ubuntu?
[09:48] <cart_man> make[2] : *** No ruke to make target '/usr/src/linux-header-3.13.0-25-generic/arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_32.tbl' , needed by 'arch/x86/syscalls/.../include/generated/uapi/asm/unistd_32.h' . stop
[09:48] <ObrienDave> cart_man, why are you compiling a kernel?
[09:52] <ObrienDave> hillary, this is interesting. at the bottom http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1508127
[09:54] <hillary> ok let me check
[09:57] <liyuan> last month ,we has the worst patch weekend
[10:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:09] <ObrienDave> hey BluesKaj
[10:12] <cfhowlett> !ops | jacoob_luwec unsolicited spam in PM
[10:12] <Ben64> yep, cfhowlett is correct
[10:13] <BluesKaj> no unwanted pms here, yet
[10:13] <Ben64> was triggered on join, but its gone now
[10:14] <Tm_T> uh
[10:14] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj,  right, mine was /join triggered as well.
[10:18] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, are you guys on ubuntu and unity running mir yet?
[10:18] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, ubuntustudio = xfce = no unity
[10:18] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, ok
[10:19] <BluesKaj> just curious , since i haven't been here for a while
[10:20] <emacster> Hello everyone
[10:20] <Roq99> hyeee
[10:21] <Roq99> does ubuntu manage laptops with onboard and discrete gpu's?
[10:22] <k1l_> Roq99: yes.
[10:22] <Ben64> Roq99: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[10:22] <cfhowlett> Roq99, yes but some brands (nvidia) are better supported than others (amd)
[10:22] <Roq99> i have nVidia.... mint is horribke for tgis so im thinking of going to ubuntu
[10:23] <Roq99> thanks ben
[10:23] <cfhowlett> Roq99, easy test: torrent ubuntu .iso, make USB, boot USB
[10:23] <Ben64> Roq99: no problem, just keep in mind that we can't help you with mint here
[10:24] <Roq99> yeah, i didnt realize how far ubuntu has come, looks like i need to switch
[10:24] <hillary> sorry model is E1750
[10:25] <emacster> Hi everyone
[10:25] <Roq99> Are there any custom versions of Ubuntu that are better for gaming or is vanilla best? Referring to steam mostly
[10:26] <k1l_> Roq99: vanilla
[10:26] <emacster> I just installed ubuntu 14.04.1 on my workstation
[10:27] <emacster> but it doesn't connect to the internet
[10:27] <Roq99> ill pray for it to connect how is that
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !wifi | emacster
[10:27] <andrea94> ciao a tutti
[10:28] <emacster> obottu: even ethernet is not working
[10:28] <Roq99> nice bot
[10:28] <andrea94> !list
[10:29] <Roq99> who mentioned warez? Wtf
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Roq99, steam will run on all *buntus.  that said, since gaming is places a system under high demand, I'd consider using a *light* buntu, i.e. lubuntu.  I run ubuntustudio = xubuntu + multimedia meta packages. also run steam. Just killed a few dozen terrorists and zombies last night courtesy of steam.
[10:30] <daniele_> Hi guys, I use chromium on ubuntu 14.04 but the flash player doesn't works, I just installed Pepper Flash Player nonfree, but it doesn't works. Any suggest ? thanks
[10:32] <hetii> Hi
[10:32] <Roq99> thanks cfhowlett
[10:32] <cfhowlett> Roq99, happy2help
[10:32] <hetii> I have trouble with linuxmint 17 and touch pad for asus F7L. My right button doesn`t work.Here i have all debug message that i get. http://pastebin.com/84qamgZg Also try evtest but get just even from left button not right.
[10:33] <k1l_> hetii: mint is not supported in here. use the mint chat like your client is setup to join in anyway
[10:33] <hetii> :/
[10:33] <Roq99> i was using mint, the support was less than i expected
[10:34] <Roq99> i thought mint was more popular than it is
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !flavors | hetii, if you want ubuntu support, install ubuntu OS
[10:34] <k1l_> well, dont use the OS if you dont like the support community of it and you need that support. thats it
[10:35] <Roq99> yeah im done with it
[10:36] <ladrone> hetii have you tried using a mainstream operating system?
[10:36] <EiriksUbuntu> can anyone tell me what would cause my android tablet to reverse everything on the screen, and even register touch in reverse?
[10:36] <EiriksUbuntu>  I want to put Ubuntu on it, but I want to make sure there isn't a problem with the hardware
[10:37] <k1l_> EiriksUbuntu: better ask the android community for some sort of testing app for that issue. or to test that in recovery etc
[10:40] <Shai4382> Hello, can someone recommend me on good solution how I can backup my entire laptop hard drive (installed with ubuntu and Windows 7) so next time I will format my harddrive I can just deploy the image and the computer will be working with both operating system?
[10:42] <BluesKaj> !dd
[10:43] <RoBo_V> Guys, I have one script that bring notification with notify-send on desktop but I need to add sound to it
[10:43] <geirha> That's what Clonezilla is designed for I believe
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Shai4382, you may be able to use dd for that
[10:43] <RoBo_V> what sound command I can add to the script
[10:43] <hillary> still disconnecting
[10:44] <kostkon> RoBo_V, paplay
[10:45] <RoBo_V> kostkon: Falied to open audio file
[10:45] <RoBo_V> ?
[10:48] <elacheche> Hi guys! I installed remine from apt-get install.. when I execute rake -t -f /usr/share/redmine/Rakefile redmine:email:receive_imap I get an error, by checking rake -P -T -f /usr/share/redmine/Rakefile I find that there is no redmine:email tasks, however when I check /usr/share/redmine/lib/tasks/ directory I find that there is tasks there.. Why can't rake load those tasks?a
[10:52] <hillary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8317899/
[10:52] <kostkon> RoBo_V, are you trying to play a specific sound file?
[10:53] <RoBo_V> kostkon: no just inbuilt notification sound...
[10:55] <kostkon> RoBo_V, then check canberra-gtk-play.    man canberra-gtk-play    for its manual. use --id to pass the name of the event you want to it. Open your sound press, and check the available events in the sound effects tab. make sure the sound for that effect is on
[10:56] <kostkon> for its manual give man canberra-gtk-play*
[10:56] <kostkon> sound settings*
[10:56] <kostkon> many typos..
[11:02] <cart_man> ObrienDave ,Well because I need to be able to access the PCI memory space and edit registers and dump blocks of ram into files... also need userpsace programs to access the PCI driver registers
[11:02] <elacheche> no one can help me? x) :D
[11:02] <RoBo_V> kostkon: ok sound press ?
[11:07] <Michael1182> hi everyone
[11:08] <lvh> Hi
[11:08] <lvh> I'm having difficulty finding libsodium packages. All I can find is in the dnscrypt ppa; that version of libsodium is too old.
[11:08] <hillary> my 3g broadband modem still a problem
[11:09] <hillary> Not connecting
[11:10] <lvh> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sodium&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all :(
[11:12] <Eldunar> hello guys, i have some issue with my system xubuntu14.04.1 . Sometimes after log in i have frequently freeze on my computer. It freeze screen for 5~10 s, after that works properly and again freeze. Any ideas?
[11:14] <Michael1182> any idea how to install ubuntu 14.04 at dell inspiron m5040 alongside Windows 7 64 bit
[11:14] <tapout> as X is booting up, is there a way to get to another terminal?
[11:15] <Michael1182> anyone please?
[11:15] <Eldunar> u tried common way? I mean USB -> write o it and boot up ?
[11:16] <Eldunar> after that just create root home and swap partition
[11:16] <Eldunar> and select those  to use in your sstem
[11:16] <hateball> !tty
[11:17] <BluesKaj> lvh, does this help? https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium
[11:17] <hateball> tapout: ^
[11:17] <lvh> BluesKaj: Not really, unless you're suggesting I get Travis CI to compile libsodium for me every time it runs a build :)
[11:18] <tapout> hateball, thanks bro.  Is there a way to list the last 2 or 3 packages I installed with apt?  I installed 2 java updates to make the fonts better and now X won't boot properly... I want to first start by rolling back those 2 or 3 packages I installed
[11:18] <hateball> tapout: check in /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:18] <hateball> tapout: or /var/log/apt/history.log
[11:19] <kaushal_> my laptop is running in low graphics mode ..ubuntu 14.04 duaal boot with windows 8.1..please help.
[11:19] <tapout> hateball, lol surprisingly i just logged into root and hit up arrow.  I didn't know sudo would put it in the history there
[11:19] <tapout> yay.  cheers bro, hopefully this fixes it
[11:19] <tapout> isnt' that something, boom.. fixed.
[11:19] <Eldunar> and select those  to use in your sstem
[11:19] <Eldunar> hello guys, i have some issue with my system xubuntu14.04.1 . Sometimes after log in i have frequently freeze on my computer. It freeze screen for 5~10 s, after that works properly and again freeze. Any ideas?
[11:20] <tapout> it freezes on boot up?
[11:21] <hateball> Eldunar: run "dmesg" and check the file "~/.xsession-errors" for some hints
[11:21] <hateball> Eldunar: Knowing what GPU and driver you're using might help as well
[11:21] <kaushal_> my laptop is running in low graphics mode ..ubuntu 14.04 dual boot with windows 8.1..please help.
[11:21] <tapout> hateball, you saved my linuxmint installation.. thanks man! :)
[11:21] <Eldunar> open driver
[11:23] <Eldunar> http://pastebin.com/sV8Y5hwk <- dmesg output
[11:23] <karella> Hi there, I'm looking for a paraview chan, does anyone now where I can found one ?
[11:24] <Eldunar> http://pastebin.com/an046exC < - xsession-errors
[11:26] <hateball> Eldunar: Also, it probably doesnt hurt to run some S.M.A.R.T checks to see that your drive is healthy
[11:26] <Eldunar> drive is health here i have also win 7 . and it works fine
[11:27] <tapout> did you check the drive for health ?  Or you're assuming it's fine because windows 7 works?
[11:27] <hateball> Eldunar: Sadly I've no experience with AMD/ATI, guess you could try switching to closed driver and see if the problem persists
[11:28] <Eldunar> i am using tuneup utiites on win 7. I used to check it, defragmentation + health status
[11:28] <Eldunar> unfortunatelly my graphic is not supported by closed drivers
[11:28] <Eldunar> when i want to install it
[11:28] <Eldunar> i have output like -> no adapter avaliable
[11:28] <Eldunar> i tried to use open driver ( i have hybrid intel /ati)
[11:29] <Eldunar> but when i want to use switheroo it gives me discrette card dynof
[11:29] <Eldunar> dynoff
[11:31] <ubuntuser13> unable to compile klavaro  it says gtk+-3.0 not found.
[11:31] <innocent95> Howdy
[11:31] <m_anish> !ubuntu
[11:32] <innocent95> My xubuntu goes suspend automatically when inactive for some minutes, how can i disable that?
[11:32] <Eldunar> in power settings
[11:32] <innocent95> Eldunar, Where Exactly?
[11:32] <Eldunar> laptop or desktop?
[11:33] <innocent95> Laptop
[11:33] <Eldunar> so u should have in tray batery icon
[11:33] <innocent95> Eldunar, I'm using the cable, so i can't see that icon
[11:34] <Eldunar> so go to the settings -> hardware -> power managament
[11:34] <innocent95> Eldunar, Oh there is a (s) icon :P
[11:34] <innocent95> Yes i'm there
[11:34] <ubuntuser13> unable to compile klavaro gtk error
[11:34] <somsip> ubuntuser13: why are you compiling it?
[11:34] <Eldunar> and choose what do u want to:) u can set it for cable and batery
[11:35] <ubuntuser13> somsip: for testing
[11:35] <Eldunar> i gues that u will need suspend after -> never
[11:35] <innocent95> Eldunar, Which one?
[11:35] <ovehbe> test
[11:35] <somsip> ubuntuser13: it's recommended you use packages from the repos for normal usage. If you're doing something else, you probably wont get support in here.
[11:35] <innocent95> Eldunar, General?, OnAC, Extended?
[11:35] <ovehbe> hi
[11:36] <ovehbe> hello
[11:36] <Eldunar> on AC -> where is pluged to power network
[11:36] <Eldunar> extended -> batery
[11:36] <ovehbe> hey
[11:36] <Eldunar> u can choose different states for both
[11:36] <ovehbe> can anyone please help me???
[11:37] <afidegnum> good morning, please  I am trying to use mod_wsgi   for my django project however I am still facing a   (13)Permission denied: mod_wsgi (pid=22292): Unable to connect to WSGI daemon   error. is it possible to chmod to 777 the sock file? or use another location?
[11:37] <ubuntuser13> somsip: just tell me how to lower the package requirement. in simple words, i don't want to install GTK3.0.
[11:37] <innocent95> Eldunar, It's already never
[11:37] <ovehbe> guys
[11:37] <BQ> how do i tell if X is enable or not in my vps?
[11:38] <Eldunar> so its suspendid only screen. U have there also another tab : screen
[11:38] <Eldunar> check there
[11:38] <ovehbe> i installed flash player from USC but its not working?
[11:38] <sexyboy> /22/
[11:38] <innocent95> Eldunar, Monitor
[11:38] <Eldunar> yeah, check there
[11:39] <innocent95> Eldunar, Everything has been set to be never
[11:39] <Eldunar> on both type of energy?
[11:40] <innocent95> Eldunar, You mean extended?
[11:40] <Eldunar> both extended and ac
[11:40] <innocent95> Eldunar, Something weird there in extended.
[11:41] <innocent95> Eldunar, I haven't a battery
[11:41] <innocent95> Eldunar, Advanced options, it says
[11:41] <ovehbe> hiiii
[11:41] <Eldunar> so i am out i do not know
[11:41] <ovehbe> does anyone see me
[11:41] <innocent95> Eldunar, Is there a way to check from the terminal?
[11:41] <somsip> !anyone | ovehbe
[11:41] <somsip> !ask | ovehbe
[11:43] <Fohlen> hey guys. Lately my apt-get update fails with this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8318277/
[11:43] <Fohlen> sorry for german tbo. What can I do about it?
[11:43] <afidegnum> any answer?
[11:43] <Fohlen> moreover, what's wrong with it?
[11:44] <Kopfgeldjaeger> Hi! I'm on up-to-date Ubuntu 14.04 and suddenly cannot get a LAN connection anymore. Neither DHCP nor static config work. DHCP get to the router, the router says is responds with DHCPOFFER, but Ubuntu does not seem to detect these DHCPOFFER packets. Tried several cables/routers etc., works fine with same config on Windows.
[11:44] <Kopfgeldjaeger> Wireless LAN also works fine
[11:44] <Kopfgeldjaeger> No change with manual "sudo dhclient eth0"
[11:45] <afidegnum> how do I find out if SELinux is enabled in my system
[11:45] <innocent95> Eldunar, http://imgur.com/5f8XugF, that's weird, isn't ?
[11:45] <BQ> how do i check if the heartbleed openssl bug is fixed or not in my system?
[11:45] <Eldunar> thats normall
[11:45] <Eldunar> u do not have batery there
[11:45] <Eldunar> or its not detected by ubuntu
[11:46] <innocent95> Eldunar, Nope, I mean the color
[11:46] <innocent95> Eldunar, Look at the last one and compare it with the other two above
[11:46] <Eldunar> u have numix with mixed in " theme configurator"?
[11:47] <Eldunar> or u have numix-frost?
[11:47] <innocent95> Eldunar, The red color should follow the configuration
[11:47] <Eldunar> is it not better to change for numix-frost?
[11:47] <innocent95> Eldunar, How?
[11:48] <Eldunar> ill give u  video how to configure nicelly xfce4 ( thats showed on arch but , stll linux)
[11:48] <innocent95> Eldunar, Ok
[11:49] <Eldunar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj9wCWek2aM
[11:49] <Eldunar> here u r
[11:49] <innocent95> Eldunar, When i change the last one the one of Brightness, the color (red) follows that little circle.
[11:50] <Eldunar> yes:) but check numix frost:)
[11:50] <innocent95> Eldunar, Okay, But that's not going to solve the problem of the suspend, does it?
[11:50] <Eldunar> yeah, just change apearance
[11:51] <innocent95> Eldunar, Instead of red for example it'll be blue or something, right?
[11:51] <Eldunar> yup
[11:51] <Eldunar> much cooler look
[11:51] <Eldunar> than standard numix
[11:52] <innocent95> Eldunar, Yes, but what i want to state is that there is a problem when modifying, the modification doesn't matter
[11:52] <Eldunar> i am not familiar with such bug. I can not help u.
[11:52] <innocent95> Eldunar, Never, or 10 min are the same
[11:53] <innocent95> Okay Thank you very much
[11:53] <leeyaa> hello
[11:53] <leeyaa> why would du and df show different results ?
[11:53] <leeyaa> i checked for deleted open files
[11:53] <leeyaa> difference is quiet big
[11:53] <leeyaa> df showing 300GB + are being used and du shows 158GB
[11:54] <dexit> Can someone help me with my BIND9 server (running on 12.04.4) ? i needed to migrate Zones, and i think i got it wrong.
[11:56] <Eldunar> can u tell me how can i reinstall grub? because i have it broken after update ( i can not customize it)
[11:56] <hateball> !fixgrub
[11:58] <Eldunar> i do not lost it after installing win 7. Can i reinstall t from running ubuntu sys?
[11:59] <hualet> Eldunar: grub-install ?
[11:59] <Eldunar> and it will reinstall it without any config?
[12:01] <hualet> Eldunar: you must specify which device you'd like to install grub on like /dev/sda
[12:01] <Eldunar> yeah, ill check if i can modify it via grub-custiomizer
[12:01] <jack> hey is there anyone
[12:01] <hackal> Hello I had a presentation today and I brought my notebook running ubuntu 14.04 with me to present on. I asked if they have any wifi and they said no because of security reasons. They provided me with ethernet cable. After plugging in the cable internet was not working. They said I had to configure some "proxy" settings and showed me the configuration on windows. I had no idea what/where to configure it. Do you know where can I find t
[12:02] <Guest12856> it is not a major problem
[12:05] <cameron__> hekllo
[12:05] <cameron__> can anyone help me
[12:06] <EiriksUbuntu> does anyone know how to force oem unlock from recovery?
[12:10] <bellini> Anybody here
[12:10] <bellini> awake?
[12:10] <sexyboy> yep
[12:10] <sexyboy> what's up
[12:10] <BluesKaj> bellini, just ask your question
[12:10] <bellini> what question?
[12:10] <sexyboy> bellini: it's a support channel 9people ask ubuntu related questions here)
[12:11] <bellini> this is just the room I got autoatically
[12:11] <BluesKaj> if you need ubuntu support
[12:11] <bellini> oic sorry
[12:11] <sexyboy> bellini: if you just want to chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <bellini> c'ya
[12:11] <sexyboy> bai
[12:11] <Yali> Hello
[12:13] <Yali> how to config hybrid graphics driver ?? any
[12:14] <BluesKaj> !bumblebee
[12:19] <mjrosenb> ok, does anyone know why a postinst action isn't firing when I run apt-get --reinstall install generic-kernel?
[12:20] <geirha> are you sure it has one?
[12:20] <geirha> !info generic-kernel
[12:24] <mjrosenb> geirha: yes.
[12:25] <mjrosenb> geirha: can I confirm this by looking at the .deb?
[12:25] <Ben64> there is no generic-kernel package
[12:25] <mjrosenb> err, linux-generic
[12:25] <mjrosenb> I'm awake, I swear.
[12:26] <geirha> linux-generic is just a "dummy" package that doesn't really contain any files, it just depends on the latest generic kernel
[12:26] <BQ> is ubuntu 14.04 vunerable to heartbleed?
[12:26] <ikonia> no
[12:26] <BQ> ikonia: are you talking to me?
[12:26] <ikonia> yes
[12:27] <EiriksUbuntu> is there an android channel on freenode?
[12:27] <mjrosenb> geirha: coool, so how do I figure out what that package is, and re-install it?
[12:28] <Ben64> EiriksUbuntu: probably #android ... definitely not #ubuntu
[12:28] <Ben64> mjrosenb: might help if you describe what your goal is
[12:28] <geirha> mjrosenb: apt-cache depends linux-generic   which tells you it depends on linux-image-generic, so you do  apt-cache depends linux-image-generic   etc...
[12:30] <mjrosenb> Ben64: /something/ went wrong when I installed the latest kernel, I don't know what exactly, but I want to re-install it so it updates the bootloader properly.
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <Ben64> ikonia: around?
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:31] <Ben64> mjrosenb: out of space in /boot ?
[12:31] <mjrosenb> linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic -- I assume that is the actual package I care about?
[12:31] <mattxtn> !op
[12:31] <mjrosenb> Ben64: no.
[12:32] <geirha> mjrosenb: should be, yes
[12:33] <mjrosenb> geirha: many thanks.
[12:33] <demio56> ciao a tutti
[12:34] <demio56> maleficent
[12:35] <colonolGron> if i buy a wqhd monitor, do i need a special notebook to have a good graphics? or can a thinkpad x220 do it?
[12:36] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:36] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:36] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:36] <FuFukon> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:36] <ikonia> Ben64: sorry was away from desk
[12:36]  * mjrosenb likes how he was probably pinging one of the people who could ban him.
[12:36] <colonolGron> because i would like to have ubuntu on the laptop and then have a good monitor
[12:37] <Ben64> ikonia: no prob, DJones was awake :)
[12:37]  * BluesKaj wonders what brought that on
[12:39] <Conna> o.o
[12:40] <BluesKaj> colonolGron, you need to check the graphics resolution capability of your laptop gpu output
[12:43] <colonolGron> BluesKaj: hm i see, so i should google what the graphics card can do, and what port i have?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> colonolGron, first of all do you have a hdmi out?
[12:47] <colonolGron> BluesKaj: yes
[12:49] <ubuntuuser> hi there. Is there a way to remove Unity 3D but retain Unity 2D? I'm using Ubuntu12.04.
[12:49] <horriblecoders> does anyone know who I can contact about dead links on the shop page of canonical's website?
[12:55] <Guido1> how can i remap 2 keys? maybe even independent from the OS.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> colonolGron, then you know that your resolution output is capable of 1920x1080 resolution
[12:58] <MidnighToker> afternoon people. one of my clients just updated his LTS sysem to 14.04 and now after logging in it crashes with an error box and ~/.xsession-errors indicates a glx problem. Have seen a couple of posts on the issue but none of the suggestions seem to work. could someone advise please?
[12:58] <mjrosenb> BluesKaj: hdmi connector does not imply 1080p capable... but there is a very high correlation.
[12:59] <DiKNeY> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:59] <DiKNeY> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:59] <DiKNeY> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:59] <DiKNeY> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:59] <DiKNeY> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:59] <DiKNeY> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:59] <DiKNeY> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[12:59] <unopaste> DiKNeY you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:59] <BluesKaj> mjrosenb, usually it does , my lenovo G500 can display it
[13:00] <mjrosenb> actually, the computer that I am attempting to get running atm cannot do 1080p, but only has hdmi output
[13:00] <mjrosenb> (dual hdmi outputs, in fact!)
[13:03] <taCoUser2875> the usb mouse connect/disconnect in several seconds,and this time device number +1 ($dmesg). And mouse not work well. how to deal ?
[13:03] <MidnighToker> taCoUser2875: have you tried either a different usb port or a different mouse?
[13:06] <Guido1> or how can i doe the rmap in linux at least?
[13:10] <taCoUser2875> midnight_: yes. but still that problem.
[13:11] <taCoUser2875> midnight_: acpi=off still № effect.
[13:14] <TaKeItFoRmE> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[13:14] <TaKeItFoRmE> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[13:14] <TaKeItFoRmE> bazhang's ass sits on metaleer's penis! lololol, :)
[13:14] <cfhowlett> DJones, no half measures - ban please
[13:17] <taCoUser2875> midnight_: maybe I must install virtualbox to solve that.
[13:28] <yalchin-38> Привет всем !!
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !ru| yalchin-38,
[13:29] <pbx> when i do super-w (on ubuntu 14.04), minimized windows show up blank. is there any way to get them to preview like the others?
[13:29] <bhattigurjot> hi can anyone tell how can I give the user, sudo access for certain period?
[13:29] <bhattigurjot> sudo usermod -a -G sudo hduser
[13:29] <Guest74461> Hi. I have lost all usb including wifi on Ubuntu 14.04. I did not install anything, and I have restarted and taken out my battery.  Does anyone have any advise on how to fix this?
[13:30] <Guest74461> Usb is being detected in dmesg and lsusb
[13:31] <odrodin> kads ir no Latvijas?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Guest74461, are you tryin g to boot a usb stick at startup
[13:32] <odrodin> whats a problem?
[13:33] <Guest74461> BluesKaj: no. Installed ubuntu 14.04.
[13:33] <Guest74461> BluesKaj: please be patient. I am writing from a phone.
[13:35] <pellota> iu want ubuntu on my phone
[13:35] <somsip> !touch | pellota
[13:36] <neutrino--> Guest74461: dmesg
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Guest74461, so nautilus doesn't show usb
[13:37] <touki> Hi, why does the "tab" works in the terminal for some user and not for others?
[13:38] <Guest74461> BluesKaj: correct. And network manager is not able to connect to any network. The menu is more or less grayed out.
[13:39] <touki> Here is the example http://paste.debian.net/120409/
[13:39] <neutrino--> Guest74461: did you switch wireless off from windows (if you are dual booting)
[13:40] <Guest74461> neutrino--: No. I am not dual booting.
[13:42] <tralf> Hi all. I am having the following issue and looking for guidance: I am trying to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04. After disabling all third party PPAs I finally got the software update to complete and for the update manager to prompt me to upgrade. However, when it tried to upgrade it said "No new release found." Running do-release-upgrade started to work, but then aborts saying "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. This can be caused by:
[13:42] <tralf>   [...] * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu"
[13:43] <tralf> Does this mean I need to purge all third part software?
[13:43] <JarpseB> Third party software is installed, wouldn't make a difference to disable the PPA
[13:43] <tralf> so i should purge all third party software?
[13:43] <JarpseB> Not sure on that
[13:44] <tralf> disabling them just allowed the update to complete, but I understand it doesn't actually remove the software, and it seems the presence of the software prevents upgrade
[13:46] <touki> Hi, why does the "tab" works in the terminal for some user and not for others?
[13:46] <touki> Here is the example http://paste.debian.net/120409/
[13:46] <swizgard> hi. i get bad signatures from de.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:46] <ObrienDave> swizgard, could be a mirror issue, try a different one
[13:47] <swizgard> ObrienDave: it is a mirror issue
[13:47] <Guest74461> Any idéer
[13:47] <swizgard> ObrienDave: pl.archive... works fine. how do i contact the responsible person(s)?
[13:47] <Miquel> #ubuntu-es
[13:48] <ObrienDave> swizgard, no need, the mirrors re-sync every 6 to 12 hours. it will fix itself soon
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !es | Miquel
[13:50] <swizgard> ObrienDave: but there might be criminal intent behind this, couldn't there be?
[13:50] <ObrienDave> swizgard, ROFLMAO i seriously doubt that
[13:51] <touki> How to install an old version of python on Ubuntu LTS 12.4.4?
[13:52] <Pici> touki: You could check out the deadsnakes PPA.  As always, PPAs are essentially unsupported, and if you have any issues you are pretty much on your own (or you may need to contact the PPA maintainer): https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes
[13:52] <pbx> touki, `apt-get install python2.3` should work (that's the oldest one i see in 14.04)...
[13:52] <cfhowlett> swizgard, perhaps if the mirror manager has been missing for overly long ... and there's a ransom demand ...
[13:52] <ObrienDave> swizgard, and if a frog had wings, it wouldn't get it's butt wet when it jumped ROFL
[13:52] <pbx> and yeah, deadsnakes
[13:53] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, much wizdum!
[13:55] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, it's so hard to refrain from the snarkiness. but i do try ;P
[13:55] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, not very hard, you don't  :)
[13:56] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, i slip occasionally
[13:58] <touki> pbx: thanks
[13:58] <touki> do someone know why some user access to some exec from the terminal and some don't?
[13:59]  * pbx figures surely there is an ubottu macro on permissions...
[14:00] <somsip> !permissions | pbx
[14:00] <milosz96> hi, i just got new computer with ssd and hdd. Root partition is on ssd and /home is on hdd. My linux is waiting for something during boot. This might be helpful: http://pastebin.com/X8CAZ0Rm
[14:00] <pbx> !permissions | touki
[14:00] <pbx> thank milosz96
[14:00] <pbx> er, thanks somsip rather :)
[14:00] <milosz96> pbx: hm?
[14:00] <somsip> pbx: no, though touki may have a ENV problems as he's su {user} when he's having the problem
[14:01] <somsip> pbx: *np :-)
[14:02] <vitimiti> Hi
[14:03] <vitimiti> Is this the correct channel to ask about why the Ubuntu SDK is not recognizing the Ubuntu Components saying "QML module not found" and therefore not highlighting?
[14:04] <Pici> vitimiti: I'd start with #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:04] <vitimiti> Thanks, Pici
[14:05] <touki> pbx thanks
[14:10] <BluesKaj> google tv
[14:10] <anon809> yay
[14:15] <Nokiabot> Channel trolls lol
[14:19] <mjrosenb> Does anyone happen to know if I can get the kernel version from a uImage, without booting it?
[14:19] <mjrosenb> strings didn't seem to give anything immediately useful.
[14:21] <safaUbuntu> Hello. Is libAss in the repos built with HarfBuzz support?
[14:21] <safaUbuntu> If not, How can I rebuild it with HarfBuzz support?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !info | libAss safaUbuntu,
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !info | libAss
[14:22] <ObrienDave> that would be trolling LOL
[14:22] <safaUbuntu> !info | libass
[14:22] <somsip> ObrienDave: no, it's a real thing, eg: https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/vlc-devel/2012-August/089552.html
[14:23] <ObrienDave> i stand corrected *dang*
[14:23] <safaUbuntu> !info | libass4
[14:23] <somsip> !find libass
[14:24] <cfhowlett> somsip, ah, THAT is a useful command!
[14:24] <somsip> cfhowlett: useful for finding libasses from libelbows. I'll get me coat...
[14:24] <dcano> hi i have try to install vnc4server on ubuntu with unity but it doenst work... is it possible to do? i think maybe it will work with gnome
[14:26] <fes> maybe this is a reoccuring question but does Remastersys work for recent Ubuntu's or is there now an alternativ? Regards.
[14:27] <cfhowlett> fes, remmastersysis abandoneware. no longer developed or supported.
[14:28] <fes> cfhowlett: do you know of a substitute? thanks
[14:29] <pero> what happens when you choose to 'install alongside' another distro? i cant make sense of my partitions now
[14:29] <cfhowlett> fes, let me think ...
[14:29] <fes> cfhowlett: thank you
[14:29] <cfhowlett> pero, paste it so we can see
[14:30] <cfhowlett> fes, "see also" section:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remastersys
[14:30] <ObrienDave> fes, http://askubuntu.com/questions/452022/remastersys-alternative
[14:30] <pero> http://pastebin.com/1F9NEACc
[14:31] <pero> before it was: sda1=uefi, sda2=32gb ext4 fedoa, sda3=128gb ext4 /home, sda4=8gb swap, the rest unpartitioned
[14:32] <fes> cfhowlett: thank you so much. I really appreciated the help.
[14:32] <pero> considering there was no way to go backwards in the installation after selecting 'alongside', i thought that whatever it would do wouldnt be destructive
[14:32] <cfhowlett> pero, I can't see (chinese firewall), but I expect that your new OS should have gone into an extended partition.
[14:33] <ObrienDave> pero, sda1,2,& 3 are windows. sda4 is your Linux swap. sda5 is your Linux /
[14:34] <jost_> How do I check when a package was installerd?
[14:34] <pero> i dont have windows
[14:34] <jost_> installed?
 before it was: sda1=uefi, sda2=32gb ext4 fedoa, sda3=128gb ext4 /home, sda4=8gb swap, the rest unpartitioned
[14:34] <sexyboy> dpkg -l package
[14:34] <cfhowlett> jost_, when = time/date?
[14:35] <jost_> cfhowlett: yes
[14:35] <pero> why is there no preview in the installer either?\
[14:36] <cfhowlett> jost_, cat /var/log/dpkg*       will give you all installations - should be able to | grep packagename
[14:36] <cfhowlett> jost_, yep, I just tested with grep
[14:38] <ObrienDave> pero, ok then, sda1 is still your UEFI boot partition,i can't tell what the others are except for swap
[14:38] <pero> so where was ubuntu installed? why was sda2 resized? what did the installer do?
[14:39] <Vivekananda_y510> hi everyone. how do I identify the roles or necessity of all 'users' ie column 1 in /etc/passwd file. I am doing some assignment and supposed to delete unecessary users. While I know how to delete I dont know how to find out unnecessary
[14:39] <ObrienDave> pero, you might have to look at the grub entries.
[14:40] <ObrienDave> pero, pastebin lsblk
[14:41] <pero> thats a little bit more informative
[14:41] <pero> ObrienDave: http://pastebin.com/j0AGmYr4
[14:41] <pero> but i dont understand how / became /home and /home /, and why was it resized
[14:42] <pero> how can the installer not have a preview or a way to go back
[14:42] <cfhowlett> pero, it WARNS you before it commits because it can't go back.
[14:43] <pero> no it doesnt
[14:43] <mjayk> yes it does it shows you what it will look like then when you click apply it it warns formats are perminant ?
[14:43] <pero> nope
[14:44] <pero> option of 'replace fedora' or 'alongside fedora', no preview, no warning and no way to go back
[14:47] <ObrienDave> pero, did you look at the "something else" option?
[14:48] <pero> that was there too - i was curious to see what 'alongside fedora' would look like
[14:48] <pero> but unfortunately after selecting it i couldnt go back - and there was no preview
[14:48] <pero> my intention was to do the partitioning myself
[14:49] <mjayk> strange im sure there was a warning last time I did that, either a bug or the installer has changed
[14:49] <idoo> fdisk shows I have 3 filesystem '/dev/sda7;/dev/sda8;/dev/sda9', however df only can show the /dev/sda9 witch is mounted on "/"     why???
[14:49] <pero> there was no warning - i just did it
[14:50] <ObrienDave> well, i guess you fell to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192
[14:50] <daftykins> !pastebin | idoo
[14:50] <pero> wtf
[14:50] <pero> how is a release allowed to go live with that bug
[14:51] <idoo> thanks ubottu
[14:51] <idoo> ubottu, thanks
[14:51] <mjayk> 14.04 pero ?
[14:51] <pero> 14.04.1
[14:52] <ObrienDave> pero, you might want to add your experience to the tail of that bug and at least get it bumped
[14:53] <pero> already doing that
[14:55] <weylandUtani> +ubuntu@ip-172-31-37-182:~$
[14:58] <weylandUtani> ubuntu@ip-172-31-37-182:~$
[15:00] <EiriksUbuntu> how do I adb pull ./backup.ab to my downloads folder?
[15:00] <japro> hi, so i just installed 12.04 on this laptop and it doesn't find the firmware for wifi adapter (rtl8188efw.bin) which is apparently not in the 12.04 version of linux-firmware
[15:00] <somsip> !rtl | japro
[15:01] <japro> should i just pull the deb of a more recent version?
[15:01] <somsip> !realtek | japro (this *might* help)
[15:01] <daftykins> no that's a terrible idea
[15:02] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: cd to the Downloads folder of your ubuntu in shell. then use adb pull to get the stuff from the android there
[15:02] <japro> well, it does seem to have the module but not the firmware
[15:02] <japro> i tried 14.04 before which kinda has the stuff but works catastrophically bad
[15:03] <japro> as in i get <10% of the bandwidth and it completely nukes the local wifi...
[15:03] <japro> there were claims that it works fine on 12.04
[15:04] <daftykins> japro: please type in full sentences rather than all these separate lines.
[15:04] <EiriksUbuntu> k1l isn't there a command to do it like adb pull ./backup.ab /Home/Downloads? i know I'm missing something
[15:04] <kgalahassa> I'm searching on ubuntu a software which can permit to import any picture to modify it or plot vectors on it
[15:04] <pero> so how can i find out where ubuntu was installed?
[15:04] <daftykins> EiriksUbuntu: perhaps you could ask in an android channel
[15:05] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: yes, but you seem to be confused anyway so i went for the easier solution
[15:05] <k1l> adb pull <remote> <local>
[15:05] <xorer> 14.04.1, xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:2.99.910-0ubuntu1.1) is broken. how can i install previous version?
[15:05] <EiriksUbuntu> not confused, just to much medicine
[15:06] <EiriksUbuntu> thanks guys :)
[15:08] <japro> so the firmware seems to exist in the raring version. which kinda suggest the people claiming it should work in 12.04 were off or not talking exactly about my chipset. so i'm back at installing 14.04 i guess and wondering how to not make it unusable
[15:08] <loa> how i can edit bootable iso disk under ubuntu?
[15:09] <loa> what tools i can use?
[15:09] <ObrienDave> loa, archive manager can edit ISO
[15:10] <idoo> how can i tell a filesystem has been mounted or not?
[15:10] <ObrienDave> loa, what are you trying to do?
[15:10] <k1l> idoo: "mount" in terminal
[15:10] <Bobbo_> idoo: df
[15:10] <loa> ObrienDave, i need to delete one file from iso
[15:11] <loa> ObrienDave, and i want that it can boot again.
[15:11] <idoo> Bobbo_: df can show unmounted filesystem?
[15:11] <ObrienDave> loa, you mean on the disk?
[15:11] <Bobbo_> Maybe not.
[15:11] <TJ-> japro: It may well work with 12.04 LTS, but via the HardWare Enablement stack (newer kernels backported from current releases) which are specifically aimed at supporting hardware released after the Ubunt release is finalised
[15:11] <Bobbo_> I dunno. :P
[15:11] <k1l> idoo: see "mount".
[15:11] <loa> Obiwantje, i have iso file, i want delete one file from it.
[15:12] <TJ-> Bobbo_: afternoon :)
[15:12] <k1l> idoo: i dont understand where your issue is with the "mount" command
[15:12] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Afternoon. :P
[15:12] <idoo> k1l: ok, thanks i will man 'mount'
[15:12] <ObrienDave> loa, ok, open ISO into archive manager, delete the file, save ISO, reburn to disk
[15:12] <BuZain> yo
[15:12] <k1l> idoo: just type "mount"
[15:12] <k1l> idoo: its not that difficult
[15:12] <japro> TJ-, the kernel seems to have the backports but the firmware .bin file is not present
[15:13] <loa> ObrienDave, archive manager it is default program?
[15:13] <TJ-> japro: Hmmm, that'd be a serious omission from the HWE!
[15:13] <loa> ObrienDave, i tried to use it but it shows empty archive
[15:13] <japro> TJ-, well there is a bug report i found that ends in a wontfix
[15:13] <ObrienDave> loa, what ever opens .tar, .gz, etc. should open ISO
[15:14] <k1l> idoo: support only in this support channel, please
[15:14] <idoo> k1l: ok
[15:14] <loa> ObrienDave, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.09.11-19%3A14%3A23.png
[15:15] <TJ-> japro: Related to the missing firmware? If you have the number I'd like to take a look
[15:15] <mandeep> Please help, I want to backup all config files e.g. in ubuntu
[15:15] <mandeep> Please help, I want to backup all config files e.g. in ubuntu
[15:15] <mandeep> oops
[15:15] <somsip> !backup | mandeep
[15:15] <ObrienDave> we'll let you get away with it the first time, mandeep LOL
[15:17] <mandeep> I want to re-install ubuntu. But I don't want to lose customizations done to different softwares.
[15:17] <Bobbo_> TJ-: I should really do some work, but you cool to muck in later? :)
[15:17] <eeee> mandeep: copy your ~/. files
[15:18] <japro> TJ-, well maybe i misread it claims to fix it in12.04.4  (which i should have?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-raring/+bug/1263821
[15:18] <mandeep> eeee, What about /etc folder?
[15:19] <eeee> mandeep: find ~ -type d -iname ".*" -exec cp -rp {} /path/to/backup \;
[15:19] <TJ-> japro: Can you tell me the PCI ID of the device so I can cross-check ("lspci -nn") ?
[15:21] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Absolutely - I'm building/testing a simple EFI shell bootable USB image here now. I may even be able to write a UEFI shell script for it :)
[15:21] <Bobbo_> \o/
[15:21] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Thanks. :P
[15:21] <japro> TJ-, 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8179] (rev 01)
[15:22] <Bobbo_> I'mma do some work, so I can like... Actually tell my boss I done something today. :3
[15:22] <eeee> mandeep: i guess also /etc/
[15:24] <mandeep> eeee, how to find config files only in /etc
[15:25]  * RedDeath Back
[15:26] <TJ-> japro: So that gives us: "modinfo $(awk '/10EC.*8179/{print $3}' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.*) | grep ^firmware" => "firmware:       rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin" ?
[15:28] <japro> TJ-, indeed
[15:29] <SwissNoob> Hello, my wifi suddenly drops after I load a certain amount of pages, after the drop the router can't be pinged, what commands would help me analyse what's happening ? I can see nothing in /var/log/*.log (I am monitoring it and can reproduce the drop)
[15:30] <TJ-> japro: So either a new linux-firmware package matching the HWE should be included, or the 12.04 linux-firmware package should be updated... the former being the obvious and preferred method
[15:32] <TJ-> japro: I've highlighted this in #ubuntu-kernel. No response so far but you might want to join that channel and monitor it; your input might be useful
[15:34] <TJ-> japro: OK, we have a response, I'll create a bug report now. You should subscribe to it and add your input once I give you the bug number
[15:34] <SwissNoob> Here are some infos I've seen asked when people have similar problems: http://pastebin.com/Xtqhjccm
[15:35] <SwissNoob> I'm really looking for a reason ping suddenly hangs
[15:35] <daftykins> i'd expect to see a network disassociation
[15:37] <mandeep> SwissNoob, I am facing same problem. But then I installed ubuntu alongside the old one. And it's working fine on new one.
[15:40] <SwissNoob> mandeep: that's pretty extreme =O
[15:41] <mandeep> SwissNoob, :)
[15:41] <Joseph_> Hi , I try to hep something related to rsync command , i am not sure this is correct location please advise to go
[15:41] <zap0> how do i get a newer version of PHP installed ?
[15:43] <_486> how to check my gpu core clock speed in ubuntu? im stumped
[15:44] <SchrodingersScat> Joseph_: try asking, what's the issue?  rsync with --dry-run can help prevent certain mistakes
[15:44] <_486> im using Intel(R) Graphics Installer 1.0.6 from 01.org
[15:46] <SchrodingersScat> Joseph_: btw, forgot to mention that just shows you what rsync would have wanted to do
[15:46] <mjrosenb> has anyone put 14.04 on a pandaboard (successfully?)
[15:48] <hasselmm> hi, is it possible to disable xhci_hcd without cooking a new kernel?
[15:50]  * RedDeath Salut/Hello
[15:51] <mjrosenb> hasselmm: is it built as a module? if so, then it should be trivial.
[15:51] <vite> Hi, If I buy a new PC and want to put the harddrive of the old pc on the new one, will it boot up normally from the old HD?
[15:52] <daftykins> vite: depends if you installed any proprietary graphics drivers really
[15:53] <jazzed> quick question: I ran debootstrap to install ubuntu 12.04 32-bit on a 64-bit system. When I chroot into the new rfs and do uname it still shows x86_64 not i386. Is that right?
[15:53] <sakamop> Are there any settings I can use to reduce physical memory usage? I don't want to change DE or application software. I don't mind losing performance to save memory.
[15:53] <circ-user-8fdEt> switch to arch? lol.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> sakamop: use lighter applications then
[15:53] <daftykins> jazzed: chroot uses the currently running host kernel, so that'll probably be inaccurate
[15:53] <mystogan> my ubuntu 14.04 is running in low graphics mode..?how do i get it back to normal?
[15:54] <xikkub> uninstall unity
[15:54] <circ-user-8fdEt> get lxde
[15:54] <mjrosenb> vite: it depends /how/ old.  There is a decent chance that networking won't work properly, as daftykins said, graphics may not work.  if you have an /ancient/ system, you probably won't have sata support...
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: what happened to generate the issue?
[15:54] <jazzed> ty daftykins
[15:55] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, i just installed ubuntu 14.04 but i get the message as  your system is running in low graphics mode?
[15:55] <mjrosenb> jazzed: there is a program called 'linux32', you give it a program to run, and it will change uname.
[15:55] <Igurd> sakamop: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/maximizing_performance#Compcache.2FZram
[15:55] <sakamop> There's no system/kernel setting?
[15:55] <mjrosenb> e.g. linux32 chroot /32-bit-chroot
[15:55] <Igurd> i guess there's a service to do it on ubuntu
[15:55] <mystogan> xikkub,did u address me?
[15:55] <xikkub> mystogan: does ctrl+alt+f7 do anything
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: did you install proprietary video drivers?
[15:56] <sakamop> Nothing I can do in system/kernel like optimise number of allowable open file handles or something?
[15:56] <mystogan> xikkub,doesnt it go to tty7?
[15:56] <xikkub> and no, i was adddressing sakamo
[15:56] <mjrosenb> sakamop: what is your memory usage like now that you want to lower it?
[15:56] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, no
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: can you boot to an older kernel?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: have you ran updates yet?
[15:57] <sakamop> mjrosenb: It's touching 2 GB and I need to get it *under* 2 GB to fit on a specific hardware device
[15:57] <netameta> How can i uninstall something for example, i did sudo make install for NPM, then deleted the folder by mistake, but NPM is still available in the system how can i un install it ?
[15:57] <sakamop> mjrosenb: That's with a browser open etc. The base desktop, no apps, is just about 3/4 GB
[15:57] <daftykins> netameta: find where it is and delete it, then in future don't compile from source again on a packaged distribution (:
[15:57] <xikkub> mystogan: tty7 is where xorg usually runs, assuming xorg is running
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> sakamop: using a lighter DE will help a lot. Gnome + Unity + Compiz is far frmo light
[15:58] <netameta> daftykins how can i find where it is installed ?
[15:58] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, no i did not ,,since i could not log on safely i went through recovery mode,then selected failsafeX and pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and finally pressed ctrl+c which logged me in..
[15:58] <mjrosenb> sakamop: is that before or after deducting buffers + cache?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: do you have web access?
[15:59] <daftykins> netameta: try "which <programname"
[15:59] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, yes i have...
[15:59] <ashadiqi> please help, can i back up all the configuration in ubuntu(including installed apps) and re-apply them after i re-install ubuntu?
[15:59] <daftykins> netameta: oops "which <program name>"
[15:59] <netameta> daftykins, will try thanks
[15:59] <Toadstool2> hello everyone
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <daftykins> ashadiqi: this has already been answered. backup your /home
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: then reboot, may help
[15:59] <mjrosenb> sakamop: you may also want to switch browsers. I've been known to use dillo.
[15:59] <sakamop> mjrosenb: Right now with xchat, chrome, pidgin it's showing 2.3GB + 638MB cache
[15:59] <Toadstool2> im trying to find the best winamp like media player for ubuntu
[16:00] <Toadstool2> any suggestions?
[16:00] <daftykins> Toadstool2: there's no such thing as best, but try clementine
[16:00] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, yes i will try...and thanks
[16:01] <Toadstool2> thanks dafty
[16:01] <mjrosenb> sakamop: as of ~6 months ago, mozilla actually had better memory usage than chrome in a number of tests </shameless plug>
[16:01] <mystogan> ActionParsnip, i will have to try it in recovery mode.Can i?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> mystogan: as long as there is a web connection, yes :)
[16:01] <mystogan> ok ActionParsnip
[16:01] <mjrosenb> sakamop: and limiting the number of open file descriptors will either have no effect on memory usage, *or* will cause programs to fail spontaneously.
[16:02] <mjrosenb> sakamop: if you can manage to get everything to use hugeTLB, that'll cut down on memory usage.
[16:02] <sakamop> mjrosenb: Fair enough but I'm locked into Chrome due to Google book purchases. :-) I understand what you are saying though - there's no easy way out without changing user apps or DE. I'd prefer to change DE or buy a new laptop.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> sakamop: could switch to Midori
[16:02] <ashadiqi> daftykins: yes i can do the backup, will it be re-applicable after i re-install?
[16:02] <mjrosenb> sakamop: you may also want to investigate x32.
[16:03] <daftykins> ashadiqi: what be reapplicable?
[16:03] <mjrosenb> sakamop: glhfdd on getting it to actuallybuild, but /man/ it'll be nice.
[16:03] <sakamop> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[16:03] <sakamop> mjrosenb: Also thanks.
[16:03] <ashadiqi> daftykins: all the configuration i made including the apps
[16:03] <mjrosenb> sakamop: n.b. x32 != i686/x86
[16:04] <daftykins> ashadiqi: you'd have to reinstall the software yourself
[16:05] <ashadiqi> daftykins: is there any other way to keep them?
[16:05] <daftykins> ashadiqi: perhaps you should tell us why you're reinstalling, it doesn't make any sense as to why you find these instructions hard
[16:06] <ashadiqi> daftykins: i want to rearrange  my harddisk partition
[16:07] <stefan_np> any girl for descent chat
[16:07] <mjrosenb> ashadiqi: you can likely do that by just booting to a suitable liveenvironment without reinstalling.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> stefan_np: wrong channel dude
[16:08] <stefan_np> then what is proper channel
[16:08] <stefan_np> where
[16:08] <daftykins> none, you're on the wrong network
[16:08] <stefan_np> i see ok tnx
[16:08] <kill_-9_1> Where should the unlucky one which have an Atom PowerVR graphics processor refers?
[16:08] <Toadstool2> lol
[16:09] <Toadstool2> you want chatroulette stefan_np
[16:09] <kill_-9_1> (Intel Atom with PowerVR GPU , Dell system)
[16:09] <Toadstool2> or facebook
[16:09] <AlonzoTG> why do ppl think re-installation is an acceptable thing to suggest someone who just needs to get his sound driver working (why did it break?!?!?! )
[16:10] <mjrosenb> kill_-9_1: i was going to suggest #android :-p
[16:10] <mjrosenb> AlonzoTG: because it'll keep them busy, and not asking questions for a few hours :-p
[16:11] <ashadiqi> mjrosenb: I like my ubuntu just like this, but i made some mistakes in partitioning the hard drive, i made it too small for ubuntu system
[16:11] <kill_-9_1> mjrosenb: For GNU/Linux? (#intel-gfx just made a dialog)
[16:11] <xangua> AlonzoTG: probably because they give little to no information to help them to begin with, just like your question: "why did it break?"
[16:11] <Bobbo_> TJ-: How big is this image?
[16:12] <AlonzoTG> I think someone decided that ALSA was too reliable and decided to replace it with a sack of turd that they could have fun fixing...
[16:12] <mjrosenb> ashadiqi: yeah, you definitely don't need to reinstall for that.
[16:13] <bcvery1> I have '0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/bin/python ~/.i3/i3bg.py' in my crontab; running the command in terminal works, but the crontab is not running it
[16:13] <_486> my sound on laptop has quit a few times... believe it or not closing lid (sleep) and opening again fixed it
[16:13] <AlonzoTG> How is Ubuntu's support for the new AMD HSA processors?
[16:13] <_486> ./shrug
[16:13] <Toadstool2> does anyone know how to specify a port on IRSSI?
[16:13] <ashadiqi> mjrosenb: let my try it, thanks
[16:14] <ashadiqi> daftykins: you too sir, thanks
[16:14] <AlonzoTG> mine does not recognize any audio devices, when it actually is quite well equipped for a $400 bargain barrel model.
[16:14] <helmut_> hi
[16:14] <Toadstool2> i tried "/connect -p 6665 irc.network.net"
[16:14] <Toadstool2> i dont think the syntax is quite right
[16:14] <AlonzoTG> The sound hardware was made by this obscure, no name, 2-bit company called Intel...
[16:14] <Toadstool2> i also tried "/connect irc.network.net:6665"
[16:14] <Toadstool2> that dosent work either
[16:14] <AlonzoTG> so no way that could be supported so that it "just worked"
[16:15] <sage__> put the port number after the server name
[16:15] <sage__> no quotes
[16:15] <sage__> seperated by a space
[16:15] <Pici> Toadstool2: as /help connect says: /connect irc.network.net 6665
[16:15] <Toadstool2> got it
[16:15] <Toadstool2> thanks sage and Pici
[16:16] <hasselmm> mjrosenb: no, it's built into the kernel, unfortunately
[16:17] <sage__> you could write your own driver
[16:18] <Joseph_> Hi   i try to do rysnc from local system itself
[16:18] <urthmover> is unison a good replacement for rsync?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> AlonzoTG: if there are weird bits in the way, like strange ACPI implementations then you may get issues
[16:19] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8320102/
[16:19] <mjrosenb> urthmover: I've heard it tends to slow down a lot on large directories.
[16:19] <Joseph_> i try to get mail alert once its completed
[16:20] <urthmover> mjrosenb: awesome thanks for the heads up, I'll test that before I put it in play
[16:20] <hasselmm> sage__: build a new kernel you mean? well, that's what i try to avoid.
[16:20] <hdtune2k> i wanna know,i use bumblebee to swtich my GPU,(via optirun),it returns "Cannot access 2nd GPU"
[16:20] <hdtune2k> why....
[16:20] <hasselmm> (although that it might proof to be quicker to just build a new kernel, that googeling endless less for something that might not be possible)
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:21] <thanmustoki> hello
[16:21] <hasselmm> ...why can't new USB host drivers just work?
[16:21] <hdtune2k> arrr.....
[16:22] <thanmustoki> anyone can help how to compile kernel in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:22] <hasselmm> took ages until uhci_hcd was usable....
[16:22] <hasselmm> then ages until ehci_hcd was usable...
[16:22] <hasselmm> ...and once again history repeats with xhci_hcd
[16:22] <hdtune2k> noone can answer my bumblebee problem?
[16:22] <hasselmm> something is fundamentally wrong
[16:22] <sage__> thanmustoki: why are you trying to compile a new kernel
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: I asked you a question....
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: you didnt reply
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: why ask something to then IGNORE replys
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: it makes no sense at all
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | thanmustoki
[16:23] <innocent95> Hi
[16:23] <hdtune2k> sorry
[16:23] <hdtune2k> i
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> [17:20] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:24] <hdtune2k>  i didnt see that reply
[16:24] <innocent95> I'm not able to disable the auto-suspend feature in my xubuntu
[16:24] <hdtune2k> let me see
[16:24] <innocent95> is there anyway to do that
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: I believe its in display, you can tell the screen not to dim after so long
[16:24] <thanmustoki> ubottu: thank you very much
[16:25] <hdtune2k> it seems like /etc/issue only contains this:"Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[16:25] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, settings > Display?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: I guess, its something like that
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: same place as brightness
[16:26] <thanmustoki> sage__: I just want to optimize my linux
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: not used Gnome for a while so I'm losing touch of exactly where junk is
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> hdtune2k: have you tried nvidia-prime instead of bumblebee?
[16:26] <hdtune2k> no,
[16:27] <hdtune2k> what is that?sorry i am blue
[16:27] <sage__> thanmustoki: Looking at the kernel might be interesting, but you won't optimize it by any degree that is worth the time
[16:27] <daftykins> hdtune2k: look it up
[16:27] <hdtune2k> i am not very familar with linux
[16:27] <innocent95> ActionParsnip, There is an option to disable that, where brightness exist as you said, but it cannot be done, you cannot modify that
[16:27] <hdtune2k> ok thanks , let me search on the web
[16:28] <hdtune2k> Thanks ActionParsnip and daftykins
[16:28] <hdtune2k> and sorry about the ignoring of your replys!
[16:29] <thanmustoki> sage__: is it take long time? and difficult? wht's difference between installing/upgrading new kernel?
[16:31] <sage__> thanmustoki: The kernel used by Ubuntu has already been customized for Ubuntu. It requires an immense amount of knowledge to compile a kernel that will function beyond what the default provides.
[16:31]  * AlonzoTG huggs his gentoo and it's unmolested kernel.
[16:32] <hdtune2k> :q
[16:33] <Toadstool2> weechat lol
[16:34] <AlonzoTG> so basically the stock kernel was too well engineered so it was necessary to unleash a horde of flatheads on it to add a bunch of bugs and missfeatures.
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> AlonzoTG: how do you figure that?
[16:35] <daftykins> this is not the place for your personal insights.
[16:35] <fartface> Are there any decent epub readers available for *buntu that would be comparable to Adobe Digital Editions?  I've tried FBReader, it's...not very intuitive.
[16:36] <badawi-fils> salu
[16:36] <sage__> you can read from the browser using amazon kindle cloud reader
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> fartface: calibre
[16:36] <badawi-fils> salu je suis un news user et je voudrais apprendre les libres
[16:37] <theadmin> !fr | badawi-fils
[16:37] <sage__> firefox also has an addon called EpubReader
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[16:37] <minus1999> I have a question concerning a samba setup that Ive done for my home. I added two unix user, then added them as samba users  and a directory for the first user was created and is accessable. A directory for the second user was never created. I created the directory for such user but I cant see it on a windows machine. Anyone have an  idea why?
[16:37] <theadmin> fartface: Doesn't Evince (the default Ubuntu document reader) handle epub?
[16:37] <fartface> Action: I've used calibre in the past as well, it's good for conversions, but the reader itself isn't too great.  Specifically looking for one that can handle annotations.  I might end up having to use Calibre as I'm pretty sure it'll be the only one that'll handle annotations.
[16:38] <fartface> theadmin:  Evince wasn't on my install, I'll give it a shot one sec
[16:38] <sakamop> fartface: calibre, or you can run something like Foxit under wine
[16:38] <sakamop> fartface: evince is, it's the defautl reader
[16:38] <fartface> sakamop: foxit does epub?
[16:38] <minus1999> Im using the latest ubunu server os
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: did you use smbpasswd -a username   to set the password for the username?
[16:39] <fartface> theadmin: Doesn't look like Evince handles epub
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: are the clients going to be linux based too?
[16:39] <minus1999> yes
[16:39] <sakamop> fartface: dunno about the free one, but they have a reader
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: no windows?
[16:39] <minus1999> windows and mac os x
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: oic
[16:40] <fartface> Though on that note, does anyone know how to have document location persistence with Evince?  Like if I open a PDF, and close it, and then reopen the PDF, it'll be in the same location as when I closed it?
[16:40] <theadmin> fartface: Sorry, I must have confused formats
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: windows is holding you back here :(
[16:40] <fartface> theadmin: No worries, I appreciate the help :)
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: is the 2nd folder defined in /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[16:40] <minus1999> the only differnce i can think of is that i added a -m when i added the first user
[16:41] <minus1999> neither of the folders are in the smb.conf
[16:41] <TJ-> Bobbo_: The UEFI bootable image will be very small; probably around 2MB
[16:41] <sakamop> fartface: evince does that with pdf, but i've not tried epub
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: then how did you make the shares?
[16:41] <daftykins> minus1999: you should be mounting samba shares manually, not relying upon GUIs to 'see' shares
[16:41] <Bobbo_> oh wow
[16:42] <minus1999> Im not sure. The first one was share from the start
[16:42] <minus1999> the second one...
[16:42] <minus1999> well i had to manually create the directory
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: if you want to add folders you need to define them in smb.conf and they will be presented when the server is scanned for shares
[16:43] <minus1999> Ah. Ill add them manually then.
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: plase note, trying to get samba to play nice with NTFS is a pain
[16:44] <fartface> sakamop: Was it a setting?  Because it's definitely not behaving like that by default for me.
[16:45] <minus1999> is there a better way to work with windows, file sharing wise?
[16:45] <minus1999> then samba?
[16:45] <daftykins> no
[16:45] <daftykins> depends what you're really doing with the file sharing
[16:45] <daftykins> whether it's regular or not
[16:46] <tongl> Hello, can anyonse help me installing ubuntu??
[16:46] <minus1999> im just wanting to use it as a fileserver for my home
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> tongl: wassup?
[16:46] <minus1999> for both mac and window
[16:47] <sakamop> fartface: Unsure, let me look.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: if you want multiple folders showing when you search the server, you will need to define them in smb.conf and restart the smbd service
[16:47] <tongl> Ive been trying to install it in 1 pc & 1 laptop but same error apeared
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> tongl: what error?
[16:48] <sakamop> fartface: I open a pdf by double-click, go to page 11, close evince. double click pdf again, it comes back on that page. As I said, it does it with PDF but I haven't tried epub.
[16:49] <fartface> sakamop: hmm, strange it's not working for me.  I don't think it can open epub at all.  I'll take a look around the settings
[16:49] <tongl> It starts normally and it shows me optuons : language, try ubuntu, install ubuntu
[16:49] <tongl> It is 8.04
[16:49] <fartface> sakamop: Or maybe I'm just... slow, because I just tried it again and it worked.
[16:50] <fartface> Durrr
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> tongl: Hardy is not supported in ANY way.
[16:50] <tongl> What's hardy?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> tongl: please grab the ISO for Trusty (Ubuntu 14.04) and install that. Trusty is LTS and supported til April 2019
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> tongl: Hardy is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04
[16:50] <tongl> K
[16:50] <TJ-> tongl: 6 years old? I'm surprised the media hasn't started to bit-rot already :)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> 8.04, sorry
[16:50] <tongl> I have 14.04 on Usb
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> tongl: use that it is supported
[16:51] <AlonzoTG> I've seen 10+ year old media work.
[16:51] <AlonzoTG> heck, I even pulled some files off of 23 year old floppies.
[16:51] <TJ-> AlonzoTG: Same here; you maybe missed the subtle irony
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> AlonzoTG: magnetic media is more resiliant than optical
[16:52] <tongl> Wait a min going to translater.. -.- (spanish)
[16:53] <sara_e2> hi
[16:53] <daftykins> hello. please ask your question if you have one.
[16:53] <genii> !hardy
[16:53] <genii> ActionParsnip: 8.04, not 9.04 ;)
[16:54] <sara_e2> when connect to my ubuntu machine using ssh and I login I get the kernel version and hostname how can I delete thati information? I delete the motd but I still get the kernel version
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> genii: yea, was corrected 2 lines later :D
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> genii: 9.04 was awful
[16:54] <genii> Yes, i agree
[16:55] <minus1999> Ive made a folder to be shared using samba, in the smb.conf file i put public = yes, writable = yes, but it still says i need to be a valid user. can i put valid users = all?
[16:55] <tongl> Guys with usb ubuntu starts: Ubuntu and 5 points above
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> minus1999: list the users you want to be valid for the share
[16:55] <tongl> But nothing more happens
[16:56] <daftykins> !pastebin | minus1999
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> tongl: what GPU do you use?
[16:56] <daftykins> minus1999: share the file, not a tedious explanation please
[16:56] <tongl> Whats gpu?
[16:56] <minus1999> its on a different machine
[16:56] <tongl> Computer?
[16:56] <minus1999> how can i do that using the cli
[16:57] <arun_>  hi guys, I have a Samsung S II and its stuck at the bootloader I only have the CWM Recover Mode, There is an error after I install Ubuntu Touch on it, there is black screen, looks like the phone gets shutdown while booting to ubuntu and I get an error in the recovery mode, Can't Open /cache/recovery/ubuntu_command
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> tongl: your video chip?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> tongl: the video card
[16:58] <arun_> checking for autodeploy.zip autodeploy.zip not found
[16:58] <tongl> Is that info on bios??
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> tongl: does the system have a make and model?
[16:58] <sara_e2> Hi, when connect to my ubuntu machine using ssh and I login I get the kernel version and hostname how can I delete thati information? I delete the motd but I still get the kernel  version
[16:58] <tongl> I can tell you bios info
[16:59] <YokoBr> hey guys, which one is the best "open source cpanel" with reseller, clients, billing support?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> sara_e2: I believe its the motd in SSH
[16:59] <sara_e2> ActionParsnip: but I change the option to not show it
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> tongl: is the system a Dell?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> sara_e2: yes
[17:00] <rberg_> sara_e2: look into /etc/update-motd.d/00-header
[17:00] <sara_e2> PrintMotd no
[17:00] <tongl> Wait a min pls
[17:00] <sara_e2> rberg_: let me see
[17:00] <minus1999> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8320370/
[17:00] <bfisher-fleig> I'm looking to setup a home vpn. Will ubuntu 14.04 server stay running 24/7 (barring crashes) or will it suspend itself periodic?
[17:00] <sara_e2> rberg_: It doesn't exist that file
[17:00] <sara_e2> it's really weird
[17:01] <daftykins> minus1999: you have a semi-colon ; in your second path
[17:01] <minus1999> there is a typo that isnt in the smb.conf  ';'
[17:01] <minus1999> thats not there
[17:02] <arun_>  hi guys, I have a Samsung S II and its stuck at the bootloader I only have the CWM Recover Mode, There is an error after I install Ubuntu Touch on it, there is black screen, looks like the phone gets shutdown while booting to ubuntu and I get an error in the recovery mode, Can't Open /cache/recovery/ubuntu_command
[17:02] <daftykins> !touch | arun_
[17:03] <daftykins> minus1999: sadly i can't get at my example config right now, but you have passwords configured so there's no need to enable public access
[17:03] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Ready? :P
[17:05] <TJ-> Bobbo_: not yet; more testing and I have to make dinner yet :)
[17:05] <Bobbo_> Okay.
[17:06] <minus1999> whenever i try to create a new folder via windows machine it says forlder access denied, You need permission to perform this action
[17:08] <daftykins> minus1999: you must be authenticated as the wrong user to the /home/hopeforthree/ user path
[17:08] <tongl> You know what is creature feel??
[17:09] <tongl> Bios version 4coredual-VSTA BIOS P1
[17:10] <optraz> this is a general question, what are option you can do when you have a lot of emails in evolution mailclient other than delete them?
[17:10] <tongl> Its not a dell
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> tongl: then what is it?
[17:11] <tongl> Actionparsnip
[17:11] <tongl> Idk
[17:11] <tongl> It jasmt any logo
[17:11] <tongl> Hasnt*
[17:12] <minus1999> daftykins: Ah. So the machine thats view/accessing the file needs to have the same user name as the username i created in ubutu?
[17:12] <tongl> It may be creature feel but idk this name
[17:12] <daftykins> minus1999: well, what i do is have the same user+pass on the ubuntu server as the Windows box so that they auth automatically
[17:13] <daftykins> tongl: you are not making sense in english, what language do you speak?
[17:13] <squinty> tongl:  if you install  inxi   it will give you lots of information pertaining to your system including graphics, wireless, motherboard etc
[17:13] <minus1999> Ah. I see. I thought something else
[17:13] <tongl> Spanish
[17:14] <daftykins> !es | tongl
[17:14] <tongl> Ty
[17:24] <rangeles2276> How can I reset the display setting on Ubuntu 14.04 using the Nouveau Driver?
[17:24] <optraz> this is a general question, what are option you can do when you have a lot of emails in evolution mailclient other than delete them?
[17:25] <rangeles2276> I have tried doing the failsafe reset from the recovery but nothing seems to work
[17:26] <rangeles2276> this happened after I removed the proprietary Nvida Driver since for some odd reason it wont work with my 27" Dual Link DVI display
[17:27] <rangeles2276> and now all I get is a 800x600 resolution and I can't fix it
[17:27] <rangeles2276> I've been at this since 10am, can someone please help
[17:27] <eeee> which driver were you using?
[17:28] <rangeles2276> right now I'm using the default that comes with 14.04 Nouveau
[17:28] <rangeles2276> I completely purge the Nvidia drivers
[17:29] <squinty> optraz:  https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution     Online Support   First consult the Evolution Manual.
[17:29] <rangeles2276> @c107 the default driver is install down but I can't get the highest resolution for my display
[17:30] <squinty> rangeles2276:  check to see if xorg.conf is present on system.   rename it (or delete it)
[17:30] <eeee> rangeles2276: when you type xrandr what resolutions do you get
[17:30] <c107> rangeles2276: I use Trisquel GNU+Linux.  My IRC package is programmed to join #ubuntu by default...
[17:30] <eeee> i think you should install nvidia-current
[17:31] <rangeles2276> @c107 I removed it already but nothing, is like the system won't recognize the new driver
[17:31] <rangeles2276> I can't install nvidia-current because I have a Dual Link DVI display and it won't work
[17:32] <Marsoupial> I need help using insmod to load a driver without rebooting. Anyone know how?
[17:32] <rangeles2276> I already tried everything possible when it comes to Nvidia so I gave up. Ubuntu does not support the DualLink DVI hardware for some weird reason
[17:33] <rangeles2276> well it sort of supports it but not with the Nvidia drivers
[17:33] <apathy> alternate v10 ubuntu is great for nvidia
[17:33] <rangeles2276> @apathy never heard of it
[17:34] <apathy> ISo
[17:35] <rangeles2276> @apathy @c107 at this point I just want to revert to the OS default so I can get my 2560x1440 resolution which I had before I installed the Nvidia drivers
[17:35] <rangeles2276> @c107 it seems like the xorg.conf file is cache somewhere in the system or something
[17:36] <rangeles2276> @c107 I looked in the /etc/X11/ for the xorg.conf file and is not there]
[17:36] <unopaste> rangeles2276: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
[17:36] <squinty> sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf
[17:37] <rangeles2276> @squinty running command now
[17:39] <rangeles2276> @squinty ok I got a bunch of files back but none are the xorg.conf which is good news right
[17:40] <squinty> rangeles2276:  should be afaik....
[17:40] <rangeles2276> @c107 @squinty ok I'm going to try and reboot, thanks for the help
[17:44] <rangeles2276> @c107 @squinty No dice guys, still on 800x600
[17:45] <rangeles2276> @squinty No dice guys, still on 800x600
[17:47] <rangeles2276> squinty I also tried reinstalling the xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-nouveau
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: could blacklist the nvidia driver to help stop it loading....
[17:48] <rangeles2276> @ActionParsnip but I have removed and purged the nvidia drivers from my system
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: if yu drop the '@' symbol, it will highlight users.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: see how this isnt highlghting
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> @rangeles2276: see how this isnt highlghting
[17:49] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip right, sorry
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> !away > pumbaway
[17:50] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip ok so right now the noveau driver is installed but is my resolution that wont go higher than 800x600
[17:50] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip my IPS display goes up to 2560x1440
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: have a read of /var/log/Xorg.0.log   may give clues
[17:52] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip not sure what this means "No input driver specified, ignoring this device."
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> rangeles2276: time to find out.......
[17:54] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip there is nothing in it about the display driver, that last comment was for an input device(Wacom Tablet)
[17:55] <fabio_> ciao
[17:57] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip hey take a look at this http://pastebin.com/EFep7Hun
[17:58] <rangeles2276> c107 take a look at this http://pastebin.com/EFep7Hun
[17:58] <rangeles2276> squinty take a look at this http://pastebin.com/EFep7Hun
[17:59] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip it looks like something got messed up when I removed the Nvidia drivers, looks like is using something called FBDEV
[17:59] <arun_> hello guys, why doesn't my phone show in lsusb ?
[18:00] <daftykins> arun_: i told you earlier that the channel for touch is #ubuntu-touch
[18:00] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip there has to be a way to reset the display drivers back to the original out the box config
[18:02] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip I have also tried to google this but I get nothing that can help fix this
[18:03] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip if I reinstall the OS will it wipe out my apps that are install in /Opt
[18:05] <hashken> I'm trying to setup a 3 node network (A, B, C) with links A-B and B-C and B acting as the router between A and C
[18:05] <hashken> IP forwarding is enabled in B and the appropriate addresses have been setup in the respective interfaces
[18:06] <hashken> Let's say eth0 of A is connected to eth0 of B and eth1 of B to eth1 of C
[18:06] <hashken> The subnet in A-B is 10.1.1.0/24 and that in B-C is 10.1.2.0/24
[18:07] <hashken> To ensure that A sends packets meant for C through B, I setup the following route in A
[18:07] <hashken> ip route add 10.1.2.0/24 dev eth0
[18:07] <hashken> And in C, I added
[18:07] <hashken> ip route add 10.1.1.0/24 dev eth1
[18:08] <hashken> But, I'm still not able to ping A from C
[18:08] <hashken> What could be the reason??
[18:18] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip oh I found something weird. This "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe" is wrong
[18:18] <rangeles2276> ActionParsnip it could be that I have the wrong driver installed, how can I tell?
[18:22] <mint-88899> hi,i am  chinese man.
[18:25] <ckindley> Hi folks. How can I make lightdm _never_ remember the last-used username?
[18:35] <Baako> w
[18:35] <iampaul83> any reason why a program would not start in boot up. This is a customer application that we developed.  If i a a do /etc/init.d/program start it works i did the update-rc.d program and set the start and stop defaults
[18:36] <Baako> hi guys. when i start up ubuntu. it takes about 2 mins for the keyboard and mouse to stop working and sometimes when i log in after awhile the keyboard and mouse dont work again
[18:36] <Baako> why is that and how can i solve it?
[18:37] <mjrosenb> Baako: is the whole system frozen?
[18:38] <Baako> mjrosenb yes
[18:39] <mjrosenb> Baako: so you can't ssh into the machine from another computer?
[18:39] <Baako> mjrosenb who said something about ssh?
[18:40] <mjrosenb> Baako: I did.
[18:41] <Baako> mjrosenbi dont know about ssh sorry
[18:42] <FunkyELF> hey guys... wondering what is more stable (or supposed to be anyway) Chrome Beta or Chrome Dev?  I want to try to watch Netflix and this thing says I need either Beta or Dev
[18:42] <FunkyELF> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[18:42] <brontos> Hey all, do you know of a good program that will take a directory full of mp3s and identify them, rename them, and correct/insert meta data of the song they are that runs on linux?
[18:44] <mjrosenb> brontos: I've used eastag in the past.
[18:44] <brontos> mjrosenb, thanks!  I will check it out!
[18:47] <Baako> what does this command do sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:47] <aamon> it updates your system
[18:47] <jpds> Baako: upgrades your system.
[18:47] <Baako> how do i update every applications?
[18:48] <Baako> and dependencies?
[18:48] <Pici> Baako: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:48] <jpds> Baako: Just like that.
[18:49] <Baako> Pici The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[18:49] <Baako>   bbswitch-dkms dkms java-wrappers lib32gcc1 libc6-i386 libcommons-cli-java
[18:49] <Baako>   libcommons-lang-java libcortado-java libcuda1-331 libmiglayout-java
[18:49] <Baako>   libvdpau1 linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic screen-resolution-extra
[18:50] <jpds> Baako: Right, read the bit under that.
[18:51] <mdev> how to tell if server is stuck or doing something
[18:51] <jpds> mdev: Does it respond to ping?
[18:51] <mdev> tried installing java been stuck on "preparing" to unpack like 15 minutes
[18:51] <mdev> 21:44   5.19s
[18:51] <mdev> the first is idle time, second is cpu time
[18:52] <mdev> connect via another instance and see it in w
[18:52] <Guest33850> hi
[18:52] <Baako> i did sudo apt-get update
[18:52] <Baako> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:53] <k1l> Baako: comment the cd lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:54] <Baako> k1l comment which line?
[18:54] <DanDare> Hello. Whats the final disk space usage after installing Ubuntu with default params?
[18:55] <k1l> Baako: the lines that direct to the cdrom
[18:55] <Baako> k1l u mean this line deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)]/ trusty main restricted
[18:55] <k1l> DanDare: something around 4-6 GB iirc
[18:55] <k1l> Baako: yes
[18:56] <DanDare> k1l, nice. Thank you
[18:56] <Baako> k1l why should i comment it please?
[18:56] <k1l> Baako: because of that: <Baako> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:56] <k1l> Baako: if there is no "#" in front it will search for the ubuntu cd in the cdrom.
[18:59] <hkker> hello, i have this weird problem. i created a wifi hotspot with my android device and windows machines can detect and connect to it. ubuntu however can't even find it. i have tried the hidden network and iwlist scan command but nothing is found. also googling finds me loads of threads about troubleshooting ubuntu created hotspots, but nothing on android.
[18:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> how do you do a timed screenshot?
[18:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ie, screenshot the desktop in 5 seconds?
[18:59] <_breakdown> is there a way to hibernate in ubuntu ?
[19:00] <k1l> _breakdown: yes, choose that from the power off menue. but you need a /swap at least as big as your ram
[19:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nvm
[19:01] <Baako> has anyone found a way to play windows games on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:01] <loa> is there any way to change permanently window class name?
[19:01] <loa> for example class name of chromium browser?
[19:02] <k1l> !wine | Baako
[19:02] <_breakdown> kll : is there a command?
[19:02] <loa> i need this to be able to associate icons from unity launcher with application.
[19:02] <Baako> !wine k1l?
[19:02] <Baako> oh wine
[19:02] <Baako> thanks
[19:02] <k1l> !wine
[19:03] <k1l> ah, bot is gone
[19:03] <Baako> lol
[19:03] <Baako> playonline!
[19:03] <_breakdown> k1l : i can't find an option, is there a command ? i think i have enough swap space
[19:03] <k1l> _breakdown: what does "free -m" give you? please pastebin
[19:04] <kafee651> hi friend
[19:04] <k1l> _breakdown: see http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/
[19:04] <FunkyELF> anybody able to get Netflix working with the Chrome Beta release / user agent switcher?  Apparently you're able to do it now with HTML5 but I'm still getting an error
[19:05] <_breakdown> K1l : 3947 mb of swap space out of 3806 of memory
[19:09] <_breakdown> k1l : thanks!
[19:09] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Here's the recovery image build script for you to test. Image will be 64MB. After running the script, write the resulting image file to a USB flash device with "dd if=<filename> of=/dev/sdX bs=1M", then try booting with it. If you're lucky, you'll end up in the UEFI Tianocore v2 Shell. Start with "help". I'll be back a little later. http://iam.tj/projects/misc/uefi-build-rescue-image.sh
[19:12] <mattxtn> This may be a silly question but when I enable VT-x in bios to run VirtualBox do I get a grub menu on reboot? I can still boot right into xubuntu so it's not a big deal I'm just curious about it.
[19:14] <Bobbo_> TJ-: This script is trying to invoke dd for me? O_o
[19:14] <TJ-> Bobbo_: For creating the image itself, yes
[19:14] <Bobbo_> dd: invalid status flag: `none'
[19:15] <TJ-> Bobbo_: what version of Ubuntu is that on?
[19:15] <brontos> mjrosenb, Do you have a link you can share for eastag?
[19:15] <Bobbo_> Precise, I'm running it on my main computer. :3
[19:16] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Ahhh! You may need to run it from a UEFI installation or Live ISO booted in UEFI mode, so it can also install GRUB-EFI components
[19:16] <mjrosenb> brontos: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/EasyTAG
[19:16] <TJ-> Bobbo_: re-download it, I've removed that status=none option to dd
[19:17] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Hopefully you can make something of it until I come back - be about 30-45 mins
[19:19] <Beldar> mattxtn, tapping the shify key brings up the grub menu on single installs, should work in vbox.
[19:19] <mattxtn> Beldar I ment when I rebooted my computer not a vbox.
[19:20] <Beldar> mattxtn, shift is the key vbox or a regular install.
[19:21] <mattxtn> Beldar, oh I just found it weird because my grub is set to go right to xubuntu and I wasn't holding shift. Only happens when I enable the virtualization in bios.
[19:22] <Beldar> mattxtn, On single installs it does not show, you can set it to if needed.
[19:22] <mattxtn> Beldar, alright I'll tool around with it some. That is till my curiosity kills the cat.
[19:24] <minus1999> is shorewall a good firewall, or is there a better option?
[19:25] <ikonia> shorewall is dead
[19:26] <minus1999> Really? Im following a article on how to set up a web server.
[19:26] <ikonia> ....web server is not shorewall
[19:26] <rww> use ufw
[19:26] <minus1999> its from 2009... So what firewall would you recommend?
[19:27] <ikonia> shorewall is just iptables
[19:27] <ikonia> it's an interface to iptables
[19:27] <ikonia> use iptables, as rww the ufw is what ubuntu uses
[19:27] <minus1999> huh.
[19:28] <minus1999> Im going to assume ubutu server has a firewall already
[19:28] <minus1999> ... right?
[19:28] <ikonia> I've just said it....
[19:28] <compdoc> not enabled
[19:29] <ikonia> it's just a front end to iptables, ubuntu has the same concept, a front end to iptables called ufw
[19:29] <pellota> why do you need firewall?
[19:29] <Pici> It is enabled, it just doesn't have any rules.
[19:29] <compdoc> same smae
[19:29] <compdoc> same
[19:29] <minus1999> does anyone have a more recent article on using ubuntu as a webserver?
[19:29] <pellota> that would make you suspicius
[19:29] <ArronKader> :)
[19:29] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:30] <ikonia> there is pretty much offical docs on every ubuntu topic
[19:30] <Bobbo_> I use UFW on my vps, much easier than iptables.
[19:30] <minus1999> ok thanks
[19:30] <soee> how can i replace a bunch of files extension ?
[19:30] <Bobbo_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[19:31] <eeee> soee: man rename, or apt-get install pyrenamer
[19:31] <eeee> soee: actually what exactly do you want to do, you could do it with find and -exec mv
[19:31] <eeee> ?
[19:37] <internet_> how do I know if a ubuntu desktop dvd is 32 or 64 bits?
[19:37] <internet_> without having to boot it
[19:40] <Bobbo_> so many ping outs
[19:41] <pellota> its the botz
[19:42] <pellota> a friend of mine tells me you can DoS IRC using lots of bots loggin in and parting
[19:43] <Bobbo_> Well, yeah.
[19:43] <chili555> Maybe this is the start of the robotz taking over the world.
[19:43] <Bobbo_> =/
[19:44] <Bobbo_> gunna be choosing pills sooner or later.
[19:44] <ArronKader> better take them both ..
[19:45] <Bobbo_> That's when they realise what's going on, and add a purple one to fuck with your head.
[19:45] <Bobbo_> Wait... You can't get purple tictacs, can you?
[19:47] <Baako> hi guys my mouse aint moving
[19:48] <Baako> the keyboard is working but the mouse as freezw
[19:48] <Baako> please help
[19:48] <Baako> am using Roccat kova+
[19:52] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Um Either I done something wrong or it dun work.
[19:52] <Bobbo_> TJ-: I'm thinking cut losses and go CSM.
[19:53] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Hmmm, it is looking that way. Time to ask Toshiba to give your money back too!
[19:53] <Bobbo_> TJ-: Not my laptop, borrowing it from a friend for uni, lol.
[19:53] <eeee> Bobbo_: if you can get a recovery usb
[19:54] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Not an auspicous start!
[19:54] <eeee> you can restore windows in a few mins
[19:54] <Bobbo_> eeee: I don't have any USB thingy big enough. My USB flash drives are really freaking weird (they have two physical partitions) and the laptop will only check the first (annoyingly smaller one).
[19:54] <Bobbo_> I've been installing ubuntu from an SD card in a usb sd card reader.
[19:55] <TJ-> eeee: The issue is, the firmware won't accept/keep the non-Windows entry. The recovery of Windows Recovery was simply to be able to install updated firmware in case that solves the issue :) Maybe not worth it!
[19:55] <eeee> Bobbo_: idea
[19:55] <eeee> Bobbo_: why don't you use vm, and use a raw disk image
[19:55] <Bobbo_> eeee: wat?
[19:55] <eeee> with the iso loaded you could modify the hdd
[19:55] <eeee> TJ-: would this work?
[19:56] <TJ-> eeee: I'm a bit lost as to what you're suggesting... expand please?
[19:56] <Bobbo_> Unless... Running the bios thing in wine ain't gunna work is it? :P
[19:57] <TJ-> Bobbo_: I tested the bootable UEFI image built by my script in a Virtual Machine here, and it works as expected
[19:57] <TJ-> Bobbo_: No - the Flash update tools need Windows device drivers
[19:57] <eeee> Bobbo_: TJ- virtualbox can modify the hard disk with full access to it, using a raw disk image file
[19:57] <eeee> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[19:58] <eeee> if he loads the iso in the vm, and uses the raw disk image file as the hdd, then he could use diskpart and dism to extract the image to the hdd
[19:58] <eeee> ( the recovery image )
[19:58] <TJ-> eeee: We don't want to modify the HDD, we want to re-flash updated firmware that just may fix the issue, but there's no changelog against the newer UEFI firmware releases for that Toshiba laptop, to indicate it would
[19:58] <Bobbo_> eeee: This laptop is fully enclosed like some ridiculous thing. To get the HDD out I'd need to pull it apart (and I would of put in the new HDD I bought if that weren't the case, avoiding basically all of these issues).
[19:59] <TJ-> eeee: Possibly yes, but I think Bobbo_ is trying to cut his lost time; a CSM install will work fine
[19:59] <Bobbo_> TJ-: I can just use the normal image and set the bios to csm boot for that, right?
[19:59] <TJ-> Bobbo_: Yes
[19:59] <eeee> Bobbo_: there,s no need to pull anything out, it's just a file you create in the terminal, and you select it in virtualbox
[20:00] <Bobbo_> eeee: On my desktop? O_o
[20:00] <eeee> what do you mean?
[20:00] <Bobbo_> Where am I suppose to run this vm?
[20:01] <eeee> liveusb
[20:01] <RobertJDohnert> what are some peoples thoughts on Unity?
[20:01] <TJ-> Bobbo_: You could do it from the Live ISO - it is possible to create virtual machines and run them from that environment
[20:01] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: It's poopy, both of them. :P
[20:01] <Bobbo_> TJ-: oh.
[20:03] <RobertJDohnert> Bobbo what do you use?
[20:03] <TJ-> Bobbo_: So you'd do PC > boot USB > Try Ubuntu > Download Windows Recovery ISO Image > "apt-get install virt-manager" > create VM with Windows Recovery ISO image > Attach PC's HDD as a raw device to VM > Start VM > boot from CDROM > do recovery
[20:03] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: I'm on Gnome2, admittedly. But I'm still using Precise.
[20:04] <RobertJDohnert> Ahhh OK
[20:04] <eeee> TJ-: he wouldn't download the recovery iso file, he says he has an iso of win7 but no way to boot it
[20:04] <RobertJDohnert> So you planning to move to Mate?
[20:04] <innocent95> Hi
[20:04] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Why would I?
[20:04] <innocent95> I can see my usb drive in lsusb, but can't mount it
[20:04] <innocent95> what to do?
[20:05] <Bobbo_> eeee: Because I don't have anything big enough to put it on.
[20:05] <RobertJDohnert> Well why would you not?
[20:05] <RobertJDohnert> If thats the approach you like
[20:05] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Laziness and I'm happy as it is?
[20:05] <innocent95> anybody have an idea?
[20:05] <RobertJDohnert> So you plan to stay with precise until precise is dead
[20:05] <eeee> Bobbo_: i know, i'm just explaining that you wouldn't have to buy a recovery iso
[20:06] <squinty> innocent95:  look in menu for Disks
[20:06] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Um, what, I thought you were takling about gnome?
[20:06] <innocent95> squinty, What menu, I'm on xubuntu
[20:06] <ArronKader> fdisk -l
[20:06] <innocent95> ok
[20:06] <innocent95> ArronKader, Nothing
[20:06] <rberg_> innocent95: does 'blkid' report any partition or filesystem?
[20:07] <RobertJDohnert> I was asking what you guys thought of Unity and if you didnt like Unity which desktop system do you prefer
[20:07] <innocent95> rberg_, No partitions are there
[20:07] <innocent95> But i do have partitions in the internal HD
[20:07] <rberg_> any file system reported?
[20:08] <RobertJDohnert> But when Precise dies you will have to move to something so what will you move too?
[20:08] <eeee> RobertJDohnert: trusty is the current release
[20:08] <baako> Hello guys
[20:08] <innocent95> rberg_, It was FAT32
[20:08] <baako> my mouse pointer is missing
[20:08] <baako> please help
[20:08] <RobertJDohnert> I know that Bobbo said he was still on precise
[20:08] <eeee> baako: try to restart
[20:08] <baako> i have eeee
[20:08] <TJ-> baako: One of my Huskies probably ate it :p
[20:09] <RobertJDohnert> so Im asking him when Precise dies what will he move too
[20:09] <RobertJDohnert> Im just curious
[20:09] <squinty> innocent95:  look in settings > removable drives and media    make sure things are toggled on correctly
[20:09] <RobertJDohnert> since he said Unity was crap
[20:09] <innocent95> rberg_, I was trying to change its filesystem to NTFS, i lost it when i unmounted it
[20:09] <gino39> * abc_harold1 (~Thunderbi@31.55.127.252) è entrato in #ubuntu
[20:09] <baako> last time the mouse freeze i reboot and not it disappeared
[20:09] <gino39> http://ubottu.com/y/dl
[20:10] <EiriksUbuntu> eeee when you guys told me to get trusty going I thought it was going to be like going from 10.04 to 11.04 (messy) but it as a breeze
[20:10] <Bobbo_> RobertJDohnert: Not when it dies, just when I get around to backing up stuff so that if running do-release-upgrade breaks my system I won't be screwed. :P
[20:10] <RobertJDohnert> Bobbo_so what desktop system will you move too?
[20:11] <baako> Ubuntu 14.04 lts 64 is amazing shit
[20:11] <Bobbo_> Well... Gnome still?
[20:11] <baako> :D
[20:11] <RobertJDohnert> Ok thats what I was asking LOL
[20:11] <innocent95> squinty, How do i know, some options are toggled some are not
[20:11] <adac> how can i create a public/private keypar with ssh-keygen so at the pub key file I have a custom identifier instead of the standarad host name?
[20:12] <baako> r1l u r here bro
[20:13] <squinty> innocent95:  personally I think the options under Storage are pretty self explanatory  :)
[20:13] <innocent95> squinty, Yes i see ...
[20:14] <gino39> :http://www.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <gino39> http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[20:15] <gino39> ciao
[20:15] <innocent95> squinty, Everything is fine
[20:15] <DJones> gino39: Do you have an Ubuntu support issue? Just posting random links doesn't help anybody
[20:15] <innocent95> squinty, Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table, i got this in the fdisk -l
[20:16] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> hey
[20:17] <squinty> innocent95:  probably need to reformat it then
[20:17] <gino39>  #sdx-developers  9       Welcome to SDX-Developers
[20:17] <gino39>  #daedalusx64     3       Daedalusx64 a N64 emulator for PSP | ヘ(゜Д、゜)ノ
[20:17] <gino39>  #Piraten-Recklinghausen 2
[20:17] <gino39>  #wikipedia-ja-abusefilter 2
[20:17] <gino39>  #linuxchile      5       Comunidad Chilena de Linux // Falta Poco ;)
[20:17] <gino39>  #puias           2       PUIAS Linux: http://puias.math.ias.edu/
[20:17] <unopaste> gino39 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:17] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> comcast noob
[20:18] <innocent95> squinty, lets see
[20:18] <john38> Can somebody tell me how to flash player in google chrome for Precise pangolin
[20:18] <john38> Can somebody tell me how to  enable flash player in google chrome for Precise pangolin
[20:19] <squinty> innocent95:  might want to consider installing    gnome-disk-utility  (or see if similar package for xubuntu).   can format and un/mount and check the specs for removable media with it.
[20:19] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> whats up john38
[20:20] <innocent95> squinty, Gparted?
[20:20] <john38> XxxMossyHacksxxX, do you know how to enable flash player for google chrome in precise
[20:20] <john38> XxxMossyHacksxxX, can it be done?
[20:20] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> No sorry dude
[20:20] <squinty> innocent95:  well you can use that too
[20:20] <eeee> !flash | john38
[20:21] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> Have you tryed the thing called google
[20:21] <squinty> john38:  iirc, google chrome already comes with pepper flash (maybe mistaken though)   are you asking about chrome or chromium?
[20:22] <john38> squinty, i guess chromium
[20:23] <RobertJDohnert> john38
[20:23] <squinty> john38:   google for pepper flash and "google chrome".  there is some method of pulling pepper flash from chrome to use with chromium etc
[20:23] <john38> squinty, i've installed pepper flash plugin nonfree but i still cant watch any pages with that require flash
[20:23] <RobertJDohnert> Google cut support for NPAPI plugins from Chrome and Chroium
[20:24] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> Who all is using blackbuntu
[20:24] <arthurfiggis> Google Chrome (the closed-source version you download from their website) actually has flash integrated, you don't need to install it separately :)
[20:24] <arthurfiggis> if you're using chromium i'm not sure what you would have to do
[20:24] <john38> arthurfiggis, so just download google chrome for ubuntu?
[20:24] <squinty> XxxMossyHacksxxX:  taking a survey?  not really on topic for this channel   :P
[20:25] <rberg_> the sooner we can be done with flash videos the better for everyone
[20:25] <arthurfiggis> john38: that's what i did...they have an ubuntu package that you can download, that adds  a repository that keeps it updated :)
[20:25] <XxxMossyHacksxxX> :D okay
[20:26] <john38> arthurfiggis, i switched from firefox because adoble stopped support for flash then i switched to chromium becuase its stable but now i cant watch flash plugins players
[20:26] <drox> i have a problem whit Spyder2
[20:26] <Bobbo_> eeee / TJ- : Is there any point in me keeping this windows recovery partition around or should I just remove it?
[20:27] <arthurfiggis> john38: there should be a link for a .deb file for chrome there, and then from a console you can just sudo dpkg -i install ./filename.deb in the usual way...hmm, the plugin for firefox seems to still be updated as far as i know? but if you want to make sure you're up to date and you don't mind using the closed-source version of the browser, chrome works great
[20:27] <squinty> Bobbo_:  if you have no need to reinstall windows (or have separte install disks) then there is no need to keep it
[20:27] <arthurfiggis> i use firefox and the official flash plugin, that seems to be updated and i haven't had a site not work :) but
[20:27] <john38> arthurfiggis, im installing chrome now.....
[20:27] <Bobbo_> I was just wondering if they tell me there's some fancy thing I could try if /this/ fails.
[20:28] <squinty> arthurfiggis:  same here.
[20:28] <arthurfiggis> john38: great...it should create an icon and all so depending on what you're using it'll be in the menu there somewhere
[20:28] <squinty> biab....
[20:29] <baako> please help invisible mouse ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[20:29] <john38> arthurfiggis, how do i export bookmarks on chromium again
[20:30] <arthurfiggis> squinty: the only thing i use flash for any more is youtube...it's kind of like java, the relevance of it (in my own case, not everyone's!) has gotten very, very low :) if everything on youtube was available in html5 compatible video i'd just not bother with flash
[20:30] <arthurfiggis> john38: ah...to be honest i'm really not sure, sorry, i've never used chromium :( someone else here might have though...or there might be a channel for it here?
[20:30] <john38> arthurfiggis, ok thanks arthur
[20:30] <qwerty> hi
[20:31] <Guest95976> help me
[20:31] <arthurfiggis> john38: no problem :) hopefully someone more familiar with chromium will be around
[20:32] <DJones> Guest95976: Until you explain your Ubuntu issue in the channel, we can't help you
[20:33] <Guest95976> help me
[20:34] <rww> Guest95976: probably best to ask your actual question and see if anyone answers
[20:34] <EiriksUbuntu> how do I show hidden files in terminal
[20:34] <Bobbo_> EiriksUbuntu: ls -a
[20:34] <malkauns> EiriksUbuntu: ls -la
[20:34] <mattxtn> EiriksUbuntu, ls -al
[20:34] <malkauns> lol
[20:34] <mattxtn> :D
[20:35] <Guest95976> I just launched the linux live i found lubuntu lxle
[20:35] <Guest95976> malfunction
[20:35] <EiriksUbuntu> rofl I really need to learn these commands, where is the best place I can d/l something like that?
[20:36] <Bobbo_> EiriksUbuntu: http://ss64.com/bash/
[20:38] <Bobbo_> EiriksUbuntu: or man pages.
[20:38] <Dr_Dan> Q:  are there any tweaks for getting ubuntu 14 to run faster on older asus netbooks?   Btw,  is anyone making a distro for asus netbook anymore?
[20:38] <Bobbo_> Dr_Dan: use a lightweight desktop environment.
[20:39] <Dr_Dan> Like xcfe\
[20:39] <baako> hi guys
[20:40] <Dr_Dan> That  \  should be a  ?
[20:40] <baako> my mouse aint showing i have reboot 9 times
[20:40] <baako> and still mouse aint showing
[20:41] <Dr_Dan> Is it wireless?
[20:42] <genii> baako: What kind of mouse? USB, Bluetooth, serial?
[20:42] <Dr_Dan> Baako:  or wireless?
[20:42] <baako> usb mouse
[20:42] <baako> its a roccat kova+
[20:43] <baako> oh its working now
[20:43] <genii> Hm.
[20:44] <baako> why aint steam working anymore?
[20:45] <Nitrophysix> Can anyone help me regarding a DNS issue and a domain name?
[20:47] <Dr_Dan> Nitrophysix: whats the question
[20:49] <marabu> ciaooo
[20:49] <marabu> msg FuSiOn|MuSiC|AsTrA|09 xdcc send #65
[20:49]  * rww facepalms
[20:50] <Nitrophysix> Hi, Basicly, Ive pointed my domain to my linix server using custom dns records with namecheap, but it doesnt seem to be working
[20:50] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: what domain?
[20:50] <Nitrophysix> penguinmedia.co.uk
[20:50] <Nitrophysix> Ive setup bind9 as the dns server, apache as the webserver
[20:51] <Nitrophysix> for the first time in my life i feel useless :P
[20:51] <Nitrophysix> Im a bit rusty with linux its been a while
[20:51] <Nitrophysix> Thanks in advance.
[20:51] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: firewall blocking port 53 UDP inbound?
[20:51] <genii> What do your zone files look like?
[20:51] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> Give me a second, I don't think iptables is installed by default...
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> I'm pretty sure there is no firewall installed
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> Ill pastebin
[20:52] <Nitrophysix> give me a sec
[20:53] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: did you have the domain's DNS server(s) added to the registry?
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> http://pastebin.com/78ud68yb
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> thats my zone file
[20:53] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Your bind server isn't responding.
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> http://pastebin.com/LmwBdz2w
[20:53] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: "dig +short -t SOA  penguinmedia.co.uk @ns1.penguinmedia.co.uk" => "dig: couldn't get address for 'ns1.penguinmedia.co.uk': not found"
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> Hmmm..
[20:53] <Nitrophysix> Ohh
[20:54] <Nitrophysix> I managed to get this working on a windows server, but moved over the linux for the speed
[20:54] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: Is bind even listening on port 53?
[20:54] <Nitrophysix> Yes
[20:54] <jwr__> is there any tool that will let me scan a server and see if any of my installed packages have known vulnerabilities?
[20:55] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Your webserver appears to work though.
[20:55] <Nitrophysix> Yh, webserver is on... :)
[20:55] <Nitrophysix> give me a sec
[20:55] <busch> I am on 12.04 right now and want to upgrade to the latest LTS. I edited the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and changed Prompt to lts. When i enter "do-release-upgrade -c": No new release found
[20:55] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: "sudo netstat -nlup | grep 53"
[20:56] <gsvitron> anyone else having issues getting flashplayer to work? have a shitload of homework and cant do it without flash
[20:56] <Nitrophysix> Definatly listening to port 53
[20:56] <ikonia> gsvitron: tone down the language
[20:56] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Even if it were responding, you don't have any entries.
[20:56] <busch> Whoops. Im on 12.10, not 12.04
[20:56] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: yr doin it rong.
[20:56] <ikonia> gsvitron: depending on flash on linux is a bad move,
[20:56] <mjrosenb> Nitrophysix: *definitely
[20:57] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Are you going to have multiple external addresses?
[20:57] <Nitrophysix> just penguinmedia.co.uk
[20:57] <gsvitron> well right now linux is my only option
[20:57] <Nitrophysix> I figured im doing it wrong, as said a little rusty :)
[20:57] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: It's not listening to 53 on  37.187.236.121
[20:57] <gsvitron> no alternative. so i need help getting it working if anyone can. it would be very appreciated
[20:58] <Nitrophysix> Possible firewall installed by default, let me search the system
[20:58] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Ok, you don't need a custom DNS then.
[20:58] <ikonia> gsvitron: what sites do you need to view ?
[20:58] <gsvitron> www.explorelearning.com
[20:58] <Nitrophysix> I want custom DNS address's :)
[20:58] <mjrosenb> gsvitron: how is it not working?
[20:58] <gsvitron> i need to access a gizmo
[20:58] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: All you need to do is use their nameservers, and add an A (and possibly MX) record for *.penguinmedia.co.uk at 37.187.236.121
[20:59] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: No, you don't want custon DNS servers, that's overkill.
[20:59] <gsvitron> well in the software center i downloaded flash but every time I try and use something that requires it, it says plugin needed
[20:59] <gsvitron> ive tried firefox and chromium
[20:59] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: You only want that if you hvae multiple external IPs and multiple public hostnames.
[20:59] <Nitrophysix> Id still like to use custom DNS servers :)
[20:59] <ikonia> gsvitron: looking at that site I suspect you maybe out of luck
[20:59] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: They serve no purpose.
[20:59] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: nmap says: "53/udp    closed        domain"
[20:59] <ikonia> gsvitron: it looks like it needs flash player 12 or greater for the videos or "gizmos"
[21:00] <Nitrophysix> Thanks TJ, taking a look now :)
[21:00] <gsvitron> well, it would be nice to have flashplayer for other reasons as well
[21:00] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: nmap doesn't show it open either, and it doesn't respond to queries, and a blank zone file isn't going to respond anyway.
[21:00] <gsvitron> captchas dont load...neither does youtube
[21:00] <ikonia> gsvitron: depending flash on linux = failure
[21:00] <ikonia> gsvitron: flash on linux is dead,
[21:01] <ikonia> so even getting it working on 1 site, there will be 10 more that it won't work on
[21:01] <Nitrophysix> The zone file has penguinmedia.co.uk
[21:01] <genii> Nitrophysix: For line 6 I would put something more like:  2014091101     instead of 2
[21:01] <Nitrophysix> ok no worries
[21:01] <Nitrophysix> Give me a sec, trying to keepup here and there :p
[21:01] <gsvitron> so basically I'm screwed?
[21:01] <genii> ( eg: the current year-month-day-latest change number )
[21:02] <drox> drox@DragonFly:~$ dispcal -v -q h -y l -G 2.4 SM245B
[21:02] <drox> Setting up the instrument
[21:02] <drox> dispcal: Error - new_disprd() failed with 'Instrument Access Failed (No PLD Pattern - have you run spyd2en ?)'
[21:02] <drox> WHY?
[21:02] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: THe purpose of DNS is to translate the human-readable name to the IP address.  You don't have any IP addresses in the zone file.
[21:02] <ikonia> gsvitron: depends on your perspective, but from my chair, trying to use flash on linux is a dead end,
[21:02] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: Are you sure the IP address of ns1. terminates on a Linux host? It looks suspiciously like a Windows host
[21:02] <stv> hi
[21:02] <jhutchins> TJ-: I got the Ubuntu default page for apache on port 80.
[21:02] <Nitrophysix> 37.187.236.121
[21:02] <gsvitron> well I've done it before. I used to have Ubuntu on my old laptop and there was never any issues
[21:02] <ikonia> why are you trying to run a dns server when you don't know what you're doing
[21:02] <Nitrophysix> is the server itself
[21:02] <ikonia> why not use your ISP's name servers
[21:03] <Nitrophysix> I will run whatever i like, when i like thank you.
[21:03] <jhutchins> ikonia: No, he needs to use the registrar's nameserver, with an A record for his web server and maybe an MX record.
[21:03] <busch> I am on 12.10 right now and want to upgrade to the latest LTS. I edited the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and changed Prompt to lts. When i enter "do-release-upgrade -c": No new release found
[21:03] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: I do this with about a dozen domains right now.
[21:03] <Nitrophysix> awsome :)
[21:03] <ikonia> jhutchins: then why are we looking at port 53 ??
[21:03] <ikonia> I don't understand why he's installed bind ?
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> any suggestions ikonia
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> ?
[21:04] <jhutchins> ikonia: Because he has misunderstood the process and believes he needs to run his own DNS, which really won't work the way he thinks it will.
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> It worked fine with Windows Server 2008
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> Ive oviously configured something incorrectly with linux.
[21:04] <jhutchins> Nitrophysix: Windows is broken.
[21:04] <ikonia> if you can't run dns infrastructure - don't do it
[21:04] <Nitrophysix> Please.
[21:04] <ikonia> trust people who do, eg: your isp
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> If you can shutup, do it.
[21:05] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: drop the attitude
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> You drop the attitude
[21:05] <ikonia> running insecure/miss-configured dns servers is a bad thing for the internet
[21:05]  * Pici sighs
[21:05] <ikonia> so if you really don't understand it, trying to actually run on is a bad move
[21:05] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: Have you actually checked by testing on localhost that bind is listening on port 53 and returning answers?
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> I don't care, Im still learning with linux.
[21:05] <Nitrophysix> You didnt learn from thin air did you?
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> Im running tests now to see if i can find the problem.
[21:06] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: how many name servers are you currenting running
[21:06] <TJ-> Nitrophysix: You're probably better off in #ubuntu-server for this kind of issue
[21:06] <ikonia> currently
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> 20,000
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> 12
[21:06] <Nitrophysix> 1
[21:06] <BerenBarahir> I can't install Google Chrome
[21:06] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: any chance of a serious answer please.
[21:07] <jhutchins> ikonia: He doesn't need to fix anything, he needs to do it right in the first place.
[21:07] <Nitrophysix> Yes, I bought a VPS with a dedicated IP
[21:07] <BerenBarahir> Is it possible to run Google Chrome with Kubuntu 14.04?
[21:07] <Nitrophysix> Im a php programmer building a few apps with require a bit of power, now I have windows server skills, but linux is a little rusty for me.
[21:07] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: how many name servers are you actually running for this domain ?
[21:07] <Nitrophysix> 1
[21:07] <BerenBarahir> I could not find Google Chrome in the Muon software Centre either
[21:08] <ikonia> Nitrophysix: a lot of registrars won't update the dns records unless you are running more than 1
[21:08] <Nitrophysix> Well, they did because as said it was working with windows server, with an active dns service.
[21:08] <Nitrophysix> As said, I moved to linux for speed.
[21:08] <ikonia> there will be no speed improvement
[21:09] <Nitrophysix> I'm out, your useless.
[21:09] <iShaggy> nice guy
[21:09] <ikonia> I appear to be running multiple dns servers just fine
[21:09] <rww> on Windows Server 2008?
[21:10] <ikonia> no
[21:11] <EiriksUbuntu> i think I mv my .xchat2 folder and now I can't find it
[21:11] <syntroPi> BerenBarahir, either use the open source chromium-browser or download the .deb from google to add their repo for chrome
[21:11] <loa> what i need to install under ubuntu if i have such type of errors when i compile my programm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.09.12-01%3A10%3A58.png
[21:11] <busch> Please somebody help me with this fucked up system. I want to upgrade my 12.10 to 14.04 LTS. How?
[21:11] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: history | grep xchat2 ?
[21:12] <ikonia> loa: what are you trying to build
[21:12] <mjrosenb> loa: you probably need to add -lX11 to your link arguments, along with like 20 other X libraries.
[21:13] <marandi> hey guys , how can i program my ubuntu to run this command (as root) ( sudo apt-get upgrade -y && shutdown -h now ) exactly at 2.05 AM ?!
[21:13] <loa> mjrosenb, i have this already.
[21:13] <loa> mjrosenb, i am trying to build this thing
[21:13] <TJ-> !eolupgrade | busch
[21:13] <EiriksUbuntu> mjrosenb  153  sudo mv /home/goodin/.xchat2 /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts
[21:13] <eeee> marandi: sudo -i , crontab -e
[21:14] <BerenBarahir> The file I downloaded is called  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb .....but I can't install it
[21:14] <jhutchins> ikonia: Windows developers, sheesh.  He not only wants a wrong answer, he wants a specific wrong answer.
[21:14] <loa> mjrosenb, lol i fogot about one thing)
[21:14] <marandi> eeee: sorry im really beginner on ubuntu command , can u hint me with the full command ?!
[21:14] <BerenBarahir> syntroPi  the same installation file works with Xubuntu 14.04, but not with Kubuntu 14.04
[21:14] <EiriksUbuntu> my first pipeline :)
[21:15] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: there you go!
[21:15] <loa> mjrosenb, first command was gcc -lX11 wm_class.c -o wm_class but it need to be like this gcc wm_class.c -lX11 -o wm_class
[21:15] <mjrosenb> loa: yup.
[21:15] <BerenBarahir> I'm running KUbuntu 14.04 off a live CD, syntroPi
[21:15] <EiriksUbuntu> mjrosenb !cookie
[21:15] <EiriksUbuntu> darn i tried
[21:16] <eeee> marandi: 5 2 * * * apt-get upgrade -y && shutdown -h now
[21:16] <BerenBarahir> syntroPi When I ran Xubuntu 14.04 off a live CD, I had not problems installing the same installation file for Google Chrome
[21:16] <BerenBarahir> syntroPi:  just right clicked on the file and opened it with the Software Centre, but that does not work with Kubuntu 14.04
[21:17] <gavin__> having issues with flashplayer. can anyone help?
[21:18] <gavin__> anyone?
[21:18] <EiriksUbuntu> how do i move  /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts to /home/goodin/.xchat2
[21:18] <TJ-> eeee: shouldn't that be "shutdown -P now" ?
[21:18] <EiriksUbuntu> i must have been missing something
[21:19] <eeee> TJ-: -h will also poweroff, right? just leave's it up to the system to decide
[21:19] <genii> !details | gavin__
[21:19] <BerenBarahir> Could you recommend a terminal command to install Google Chrome?
[21:19] <TJ-> eeee: "-h" may leave the system running; I don't think that's the expectation
[21:19] <BerenBarahir> Since I cannot install Google Chrome using the software Centre
[21:20] <EiriksUbuntu> isnt it called chromium in linux?
[21:20] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: "sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>"
[21:20] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: there are both: chrome and chromium
[21:20] <BerenBarahir> thanks TJ, I"ll try it
[21:20] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: chrome also exists, but why would you want to use it?
[21:20] <gavin__> Flash player was installed from software center. No websites that require flash will work. I need it for homework. All I get it "Plug-in needed"
[21:20] <jhutchins> BerenBarahir: http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts-or-linux-mint-17.html
[21:20] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: The < > are my markers; don't include them :)
[21:20] <EiriksUbuntu> lol i don't
[21:21] <mjrosenb> gavin__: have you re-started your browser since you installed flash?
[21:21] <EiriksUbuntu> i do want to move  /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts to /home/goodin/.xchat2
[21:21] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: then do move them
[21:21] <jhutchins> TJ-: I think dpkg -i only works if you have the .deb downloaded.
[21:22] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: you probably don't.
[21:22] <EiriksUbuntu> i tried and got rejected, maybe i'm not doing something right
[21:22] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: mv
[21:22] <jhutchins> mv is also used to rename.
[21:22] <BerenBarahir> I did download it, TJ, this is the file I downloaded:  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[21:23] <gavin__> mjrosenb: Yes. I've tried with chromium and firefox several times over the past week. even tried uninstalling and reinstalling hoping that it would get rid of the bug on its own.
[21:23] <EiriksUbuntu> i tried but it don't want to move
[21:23] <jhutchins> BerenBarahir: Then as TJ said, dpkg -i
[21:23] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu:  did you use sudo?
[21:24] <EiriksUbuntu> yes
[21:24] <k1l> no sudo needed to move inside the home
[21:24] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: It helps a lot to tell us what happened rather than just "it didn't work".
[21:24] <mjrosenb> gavin__: ok, uhh, you should find out what files were installed by it.
[21:24] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: Sorry, mixing nics.
[21:24] <EiriksUbuntu> 152  sudo mv /home/goodin/downloads/scripts /home/goodin/.xchat2
[21:24] <mjrosenb> gavin__: you'll first want dpkg -s flash to find out the actual name of the package that was installed.
[21:24] <EiriksUbuntu> nothing happened
[21:24] <gavin__> mjrosenb: how do I do that?
[21:25] <mjrosenb> EiriksUbuntu: if it printed nothing that does'nt mean nothing happened.
[21:25] <jhutchins> erobinson_: Both folders still there?
[21:25] <erobinson_> what folders?
[21:25] <mjrosenb> *doesn't
[21:25] <EiriksUbuntu> i looked at both folders, they are both in the same spot
[21:26] <k1l> EiriksUbuntu: did you use tab-completion to make sure there are no typos?
[21:26] <ukiwi> Greetings! I'm having a really hard time mapping the four colour buttons on my Logitech Harmony Smart Control Remote to scan-codes. I can see that the kernel is receiving these events when I 'cat /sys/kernel/debug/hid/events' (03 f5 01 00 00). I'm then editing my /lib/udev/hwdb.d/custom.hwdb with the right USB vendor/model (keyboard:usb:v046DpC150*) and my entries should be like other similar events - e.g.  'KEYBOARD_KEY_c0069'.
[21:26] <ukiwi>  After running 'udevadm hwdb --update && udevadm trigger && udevasm control --reload' they're still not working. I suspect my raw events (03 f5 01 00 00 etc) aren't the same as 'c009a' etc. Can anyone help?
[21:28] <TJ-> EiriksUbuntu: Aren't you trying to move "scripts/" inside ".xchat2/" ? "sudo mv /home/goodin/Downloads/scripts /home/goodin/.xchat2/"
[21:29] <BerenBarahir> That command did not work.  Kubuntu could not find the file and says there were errors
[21:29] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: So you want scripts to become a subdirectory of .xchat
[21:30] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: mv scripts .xchat/
[21:30] <BerenBarahir> Do I need to go to the directory where the file is stored using "CD" command, and then try that dpkg -i command again?
[21:30] <jhutchins> BerenBarahir: Not if you use the full path to the file.
[21:30] <EiriksUbuntu> jhutchins thanks
[21:30] <jhutchins> EiriksUbuntu: Worked?
[21:31] <marandi> guys i run apt-get upgrade -y via crontab , how can i export the result of it into a file ?!
[21:31] <marandi> guys i run apt-get upgrade -y via crontab , how can i export the result of it into a file in realtime ?!
[21:31] <jhutchins> !redirect
[21:31] <jhutchins> Really?
[21:31] <BerenBarahir> I"m not sure how to write the full path, but I know where the file is located: it's in my downloads folder
[21:31] <eeee> marandi: apt-get upgrade -y > /path/to/file 2>&1
[21:31] <eeee> marandi: that will report the errors as well
[21:31] <marandi> eeee: what is &1 ?
[21:32] <jhutchins> marandi: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[21:32] <mjrosenb> marandi: it tells standard error to go t othe same place as standard out.
[21:32] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: "sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb"
[21:32] <eeee> marandi: use >> instead, that will append it to the file instead of overwritting
[21:33] <BerenBarahir> Yeah, sorry TJ, I should have known that, thanks
[21:33] <kurt2014> is vi the commonly used editor on ubuntu
[21:34] <TJ-> kurt2014: "commonly" no , minimal, yes
[21:34] <mjrosenb> kurt2014: there is also emacs, gedit, nano, kate, scite
[21:34] <kurt2014> is emacs the most popilar
[21:34] <eeee> marandi: apt-get upgrade -y >> /path/to/file 2>&1
[21:34] <zerick> Anybody here using Ceph? I'm trying to mount a block using CephFS on a remote client but always get "mount error 5 = Input/output error"
[21:34] <eeee> use that
[21:35] <mjrosenb> kurt2014: I'm not sure it is possible to answer that question.
[21:35] <EiriksUbuntu> jhutchins with some modifications yep :)
[21:35] <bng> hi all, please dont you know how to change the libreoffice save/open file dialogs to use the system one?
[21:35] <marandi> eeee: cool , its working , but can u tell me whats the difference between ">>" and ">" because i use ">" and its working fine
[21:36] <EiriksUbuntu> Fehler beim Speichern /home/goodin/.xchat2/scripts/tts/chanlist: No such file or directory
[21:36] <kurt2014> primarily a solaris unix guy.. ubuntu is just a cut down version od solaris right..
[21:36] <EiriksUbuntu> now it's in the right place, but there isn't a chanlist folder, so I'm making one
[21:36] <eeee> marandi: if you use > , every time the command runs it will overwrite the existing file with the results, (so you'll only have the last command's results there), if you use >> it will continue the file, adding the new results to it
[21:37] <mjrosenb> swin 25
[21:37] <Ben64> Kurko: not at all
[21:37] <Ben64> kurt2014: ^*
[21:38] <BerenBarahir> TJ- It worked, but I got some errors during the installation because of the following problem.....
[21:38] <BerenBarahir>  google-chrome-stable depends on libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0); however:
[21:38] <BerenBarahir>   Package libpango1.0-0 is not installed.
[21:38] <ukiwi> Greetings! I'm having a really hard time mapping the four colour buttons on my Logitech Harmony Smart Control Remote to scan-codes. I can see that the kernel is receiving these events when I 'cat /sys/kernel/debug/hid/events' (03 f5 01 00 00). I'm then editing my /lib/udev/hwdb.d/custom.hwdb with the right USB vendor/model (keyboard:usb:v046DpC150*) and my entries should be like other similar events - e.g.  'KEYBOARD_KEY_c0069'.
[21:38] <ukiwi>  After running 'udevadm hwdb --update && udevadm trigger && udevasm control --reload' they're still not working. I suspect my raw events (03 f5 01 00 00 etc) aren't the same as 'c009a' etc. Can anyone help?
[21:38] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:38] <BerenBarahir> dpkg: error processing package google-chrome-stable (--install):
[21:38] <BerenBarahir>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:39] <BerenBarahir> Is this problem related to the fact that I am running Kubuntu on a live CD?
[21:39] <marandi> eeee: good to know buddy , thanks alot
[21:39] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: no, because you're missing the package it just told you you are missing. why are you installing from a deb anyway instead of like... the google PPA
[21:39] <eeee> marandi: no problem
[21:40] <BerenBarahir> Probably because I was using Xubuntu when I downloaded and saved that installation file
[21:40] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: no
[21:40] <BerenBarahir> I used the installation command TJ- gave me
[21:41] <kurt2014> inux is an offshoot of Unix. Ubuntu is an offshoot of Linux.
[21:41] <Mrono> I'm looking for a good laptop that works well with ubuntu
[21:41] <BerenBarahir> the install package is a deb package
[21:41] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: When you use 'dpkg' you're responsible for ensuring all dependencies are also installed, whereas apt-get does it for you.
[21:41] <Mrono> I have a thinkpad TS400 but the wireless chipset doesn't even have drivers in 14.04
[21:41] <k1l> kurt2014: i think you discussions suit better into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:43] <BerenBarahir> What should I do next?  ....INstall the LibPangol package?
[21:43] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: yes, or use the google PPA
[21:43] <BerenBarahir> Or uninstall Google Chrome?
[21:44] <netlar> Is the recoll lense still available in Unity?
[21:45] <Bobbo_> TJ- / eeee : Installed under legacy mode, seemed to of worked. so I'm just going with that. Thanks for the help anyways, I've learnt some stuff!
[21:45] <BerenBarahir> Package libpango1.0-0 is not installed.
[21:45] <BerenBarahir> Package libappindicator1 is not installed.
[21:45] <TJ-> Bobbo_: haven't we all!?
[21:45] <Bobbo_> Yes.
[21:45] <Bobbo_> Avoid Toshiba like the plague.
[21:45] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: just use the google ppa, this will be much easier
[21:46] <BerenBarahir> Are those the two packages I need to get my Google Chrome working?
[21:46] <netlar> I tried to install it, but says that it is unable to locate the recoll-lens
[21:46] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: Why don't you install "chromium-browser", the open-source package that is in the archive?
[21:46] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: good luck, you seem to be ignoring all advice
[21:46] <BerenBarahir> I don't know the commands for google PPA and I already installed the deb file
[21:47] <TJ-> BerenBarahir: "sudo dpkg -r google-chrome-stable" to remove it
[21:47] <BerenBarahir> thanks TJ-
[21:49] <evaryont> Is there any likelyhood of precise ever getting officially supported openssh 6.6 packages?
[21:49] <k1l> evaryont: precise gets only backport-patches
[21:53] <BerenBarahir> How do I use the sudo apt-get install command to install Google Chrome using the google ppa?
[21:55] <BerenBarahir> Did this channel become inactive?
[21:57] <RobertJDohnert> sudo apt-get install google-chrome
[21:57] <k1l> if its a PPA it should provide packages. install those packages
[21:57] <RobertJDohnert> Just realize you get no flash or Java support
[21:58] <QuaxEros> BerenBarahir: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[21:58] <BerenBarahir> thanks QuaxEros
[21:58] <boris1> my cdrom is not working how can i test to see if it is working
[21:59] <RobertJDohnert> open a terminal and type eject
[22:00] <RobertJDohnert> if the CD-ROM opens it means its working
[22:00] <RobertJDohnert> if it doesnt you have an ioctl problem
[22:01] <squinty> boris: or look for Disks in Installed Software
[22:01] <boris1> ok its working, now i got to find out how to mount a cd
[22:02] <RobertJDohnert> It should automount
[22:02] <squinty> boris:  Disks and check System Settings > Removeable Media etc
[22:02] <squinty> if ua
[22:03] <squinty> if automount is toggled on
[22:03] <RobertJDohnert> The only time I have experienced where it doesnt is if you insert an Windows install CD or a solaris install CD
[22:03] <boris1> no ive try differnt aplcations and nothing works yet
[22:04] <netlar> I am trying to add lenses to the dash, but they are not showing up.  Can anyone help me?
[22:05] <boris1> i have a dvd movie and it wont start
[22:05] <EiriksUbuntu> boris1 you need the codecs
[22:05] <k1l> !codecs | boris1
[22:06] <netlar> I added the Recoll lense and I logged out and logged back in, but that lense still does not show up
[22:06] <EiriksUbuntu> thanks k1l I'll learn it with time :)
[22:07] <netlar> Its shows up in the sources, but I thought a lense would show up at the bottom of the dash
[22:10] <netlar> Do you have the ability to add lenses in 14.04?
[22:12] <netlar> Did they take that out of 14.04?
[22:15] <netlar> Or maybe that is what scopes are for now
[22:16] <k1l> netlar: yes there changed a lot. see the http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/
[22:17] <netlar> k1l: That appears to be more for the mobile area
[22:17] <netlar> k1l: I just remember in 13.04 you could add lenses to the dash
[22:18] <samthewildone> So I recently purchased a bluetooth usb dongle for my computer and, it works. The problem is every time I try to connect to it for use on my headset it glitches.
[22:18] <netlar> k1l: Now those lenses appear to be fixed and unchangable
[22:18] <netlar> k1l: Just those standard 7 lenses
[22:18] <samthewildone> Glitches by it takes about 2 minutes of tinkering with the connect / disconnect settings to get it to work. Is there a way around this because I'm going to find this very annoying in the future.
[22:19] <samthewildone> The headset will connect but, no sound will output unless I change sound settings from telephony to high fidelity. When I select HF it grays out so I have to reconnect the headset and attempt to get it working.
[22:19] <k1l> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=lens+unity&searchon=names them are in the repos
[22:20] <samthewildone> Eventually it works but, it seems like a pain to get it connected.
[22:20] <samthewildone> !bluetooth
[22:20] <netlar> k1l: So that are all the available lenses in 14.04?
[22:21] <k1l> netlar: they are in the repos. you could look out for PPAs
[22:21] <boris1> I finaly got ubuntu to install on my labtop and every thing is working Great but one thing the dvd drive
[22:21] <netlar> Well I tried Recoll, and it says it has a lense for that in a ppa and I installed it, but still not showing up in the dash
[22:22] <boris1> can any one give me some pointers
[22:22] <netlar> point point
[22:22] <netlar> there are two for you
[22:22] <k1l> netlar: did you relogin?
[22:22] <boris1> some help
[22:22] <netlar> k1l: yes, still nothing
[22:23] <boris1> i have tryed some simple like braso to do a copy but that dont reconise it ether
[22:23] <netlar> k1l: Also do not wnat to mess things up, if additional lenses are not available that is ok too, just be nice
[22:25] <k1l> netlar: what gives you "dpkg -l |grep -i recoll"? please in pastebin
[22:26] <samthewildone> how do I find the mac address of my bluetooth headset
[22:27] <netlar> k1l: Here http://pastebin.com/LxkZPk1M
[22:27] <BerenBarahir> Could you please tell me if the following 3 steps would properly install Google Chrome, and automatically include the following 2 packages I had problems with earlier, because I'm not using the google ppa:
[22:27] <BerenBarahir> Package libpango1.0-0
[22:27] <BerenBarahir> Package libappindicator1
[22:28] <BerenBarahir> http://pastebin.com/vDPAtDwn
[22:28] <BerenBarahir> those are the 3 steps
[22:28] <k1l> netlar: you need to start "recoll" first and let it set up its database
[22:28] <k1l> when that is  finished there should be the lense after relogin
[22:28] <netlar> Yes, did that, but let me do that again
[22:29] <netlar> k1l: I did that before installing the lens, maybe I need to do after installing the lense
[22:29] <daftykins> BerenBarahir: you can find out for yourself by doing all but the final command, then run "apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb" instead
[22:30] <BerenBarahir> thanks daftykins
[22:30] <k1l> BerenBarahir: 1st: just get the google chrome .deb  package and install that. 2nd: why are you doing that on a live system?
[22:30] <BerenBarahir> because this PC has Windows XP installed
[22:31] <samthewildone> can anyone help me find the mac address of my bluetooth headset which is already paired ?
[22:32] <BerenBarahir> daftykins  Should I prefix the last command you gave me with sudo?
[22:32] <samthewildone> nevermind got it
[22:34] <daftykins> BerenBarahir: no
[22:35] <BerenBarahir> ok, thanks dafty
[22:36] <netlar> Now it appears I need to restart unity and compiz
[22:37] <k1l> logout.
[22:37] <netlar> I did
[22:37] <netlar> But the desktop is not working anymore
[22:37] <k1l> did recoll run through and did its database?
[22:37] <k1l> o_O
[22:37] <netlar> yes, but unity and or compiz looks messed up
[22:38] <netlar> Forgot how to restart those
[22:38] <netlar> Never mind got it, just needed to click on it
[22:38] <netlar> Stupid me
[22:38] <netlar> Anyway, the lens is still not there
[22:39] <netlar> It is in the sources when I look at the sources for Dash
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> ........apt-cache policy ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> daftykins, I used the above command
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> But Kubuntu could not locate the package
[22:40] <BerenBarahir> It's in my Downloads folder
[22:41] <netlar> k1l: it is alright, not a deal breaker
[22:42] <daftykins> BerenBarahir: that's not how you run it, apt-cache comes from an added PPA as per the instructions you linked, not on a downloaded package
[22:42] <netlar> k1l: I saw articles on how to add lenses for 13.04, got excited, but none of those articals are for 14.04
[22:42] <daftykins> 'cache' refers to the downloaded cache of having run "apt-get update"
[22:42] <k1l> BerenBarahir: you want to install that .deb package?
[22:42] <BerenBarahir> I did what you said, daftykins, but the last command did not work
[22:42] <k1l> BerenBarahir: yes or no?
[22:43] <BerenBarahir> yes
[22:43] <BerenBarahir> Everything worked except the last command
[22:43] <k1l> BerenBarahir: then do: "sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb"
[22:43] <BerenBarahir> thanks k1
[22:44] <netlar> k1l: Are you on Unity?
[22:44] <k1l> netlar: yes
[22:45] <netlar> k1l: Have you successfully installed any additional lenses?
[22:45] <k1l> did not try
[22:45] <netlar> cool cool
[22:46] <camtron> Does the Nintendo 3DS really run Linux? Although it says citation needed, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming#Supported_hardware lists it among GP2X and Neo GeoX as a Linux-based console.
[22:47] <BerenBarahir> I got more errors and dependency problems
[22:47] <BerenBarahir> the last command did not work
[22:47] <k1l> BerenBarahir: !paste them, we dont see what you see
[22:47] <BerenBarahir> the problem is no one here knows how to install the google ppa version of Google Chrome
[22:47] <k1l> camtron: either in #ubuntu-offtopic or ask the 3ds community
[22:49] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  the link that someone posted to you before seems pretty sta
[22:49] <squinty> raight forward    did you try them  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[22:50] <BerenBarahir> But they told me the last command needed to be changed
[22:50] <k1l> i dont know what BerenBarahir is doing there anyway?
[22:50] <ido_> french here?
[22:50] <daftykins> !fr
[22:51] <daftykins> non.
[22:51] <BerenBarahir> they told me the last command in the following 3 steps is wrong  http://pastebin.com/vDPAtDwn
[22:51] <k1l> BerenBarahir: the HowTo is really really really all inclusiv. its just in the last command where you need to use your brain and set <package name> with the actual package name
[22:53] <BerenBarahir> these are the results of my last two commands....http://pastebin.com/mqJcrJhC
[22:54] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you could also just use the software installer after adding the PPA    open up your software installer (Synaptic or whatever ) and then search for Chrome.
[22:54] <Mike9863> I have two monitors that are 1920x1080 however one is much smaller than the other. On the larger monitor, fonts are too large and on the smaller monitor fonts are too small. How can I set it so the fonts are readable on both monitors?
[22:55] <BerenBarahir> I don't know how to add the ppa
[22:55] <BerenBarahir> A lot of people here talked about adding the google ppa for chrome, but no one here knows how to do so, apparently
[22:56] <eeee> Mike9863: you can set the resolution for each monitor , settings > display
[22:56] <BerenBarahir> the people here know a lot more about the deb package than the ppa.  I don't even know what a ppa is
[22:56] <BerenBarahir> all the commands I was given or linked up to use the deb package
[22:57] <eeee> BerenBarahir: the first couple commands add the ppa
[22:57] <BerenBarahir> yeah, but they say the last command is wrong
[22:57] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  copy  and paste the  "wget...." and then the "sudo...."  lines into a terminal.  if no errors reported then either do the " sudo apt-get update" command in the terminal or open your software manager and refresh the sources list.  after it has finished refreshing, search for chrome in the listings.  once found install it via the software manager.
[22:57] <eeee> your rendition of it is
[22:58] <daftykins> !ppa | BerenBarahir
[22:58] <eeee> package name means the package name, not the filename
[22:58] <k1l> BerenBarahir: what is your problem with following this "http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome" howto?
[23:00] <BerenBarahir> ok, so that means the above instructions from k1 all work, but instead of running the last command, I open up my software centre and look for Chrome?
[23:01] <eeee> or, apt-cache search chrome
[23:03] <BerenBarahir> using the software centre sounds easier, because I would not know what to do if I found the package using the apt-cache search chrome command
[23:03] <daftykins> honestly i don't understand why people pursue chrome as if it's like the second coming in browser form =|
[23:04] <eeee> BerenBarahir: the last command in your guide maybe ?
[23:05] <squinty> daftykins:  neither do I and am miffed that firefox decided to pretty much adopt their layout.
[23:05] <k1l> BerenBarahir: you seem to much confused with the terminal and cant follow straight howtos using the terminal. i would suggest you to only use the software-center for now
[23:06] <eeee> squinty: daftykins same here
[23:08] <BerenBarahir> Ok, so daftykins was wrong about my 3 steps.  I posted them here and he was apparently the only one who read them.  He  told me to change the last command,  And I did.
[23:08] <daftykins> no i wasn't
[23:08] <daftykins> i said follow them, then run my command
[23:08] <daftykins> then you suddenly started saying you had a .deb downloaded instead
 BerenBarahir: you can find out for yourself by doing all but the final command, then run "apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb" instead
[23:09] <squinty> BerenBarahir: well he meant you have to change <package name>   to the actual package name which in this case is google-chrome-stable
[23:10] <squinty> BerenBarahir:   in a terminal type or copy/paste the following      apt search google-chrome      see if you get anything returned
[23:10] <daftykins> ah, forgive me i didn't recall putting in the .deb filename
[23:10] <daftykins> truth be told i shouldn't really be assisting here just yet, i'm not long out of hospital :(
[23:11] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you should see   google-chrome-   either beta  or stable or unstable
[23:12] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  if you do see output similar to that then type or copy/paste the following    sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[23:13] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  if you don't see any of that output then your PPA hasn't been added correctly (if you had previously done the "sudo apt-get update" command listed on that web page
[23:14] <joilson> Boa noite galera, alguem fala portugues?
[23:14] <eeee> !portugal | joilson
[23:14] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you should be able to also do this via your Software manager or Synaptic package manager (which personally I prefer over the bling type software manager programs)
[23:15] <BerenBarahir> I got Muon Discovery
[23:15] <BerenBarahir> Software Centre
[23:15] <eeee> !pt | joi
[23:16]  * Luyin uses apt-get [update | upgrade | dist-upgrade | remove | purge] ;) all I ever need
[23:16] <theadmin> Luyin: apt-cache search is helpful too, also apt-get autoremove
[23:18] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you can use the Software Center to install too.   open it up and then check to make sure that the PPA has been added to the sources list.   you can do that by clicking on the top panel and then Edit > Sources
[23:19] <BerenBarahir> I got a lot of errors  and wrong packages installed now, so I think I need to reboot before I try anything else
[23:19] <skinux> Is there a known reason why firefox.com would say my browser is out-of-date, but Firefox doesn't think it is?
[23:20] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  first check in the Software Center for  the ppa entry under  "Other Software"  if it is not there you need to add it
[23:20] <theadmin> skinux: Firefox on Ubuntu checks for updates via Ubuntu's repositories, I think
[23:20] <theadmin> skinux: Basically, check for updates via the Update Manager
[23:21] <squinty> skinux:  probably a newer version available that hasn't come into the repo's yet
[23:21] <theadmin> skinux: If there aren't any, don't worry about it and just wait a couple of days till the Ubuntu devs test the new FF on Ubuntu
[23:21] <BerenBarahir> I"m using a live CD, so doing that will not be saved
[23:21] <skinux> Oh, that explains it. It seems Ubuntu repositories are always a version or two behind official software releases.
[23:22] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  DVD or usb.  if possible (if you can't do a full install) set up persistence on a usb stick to save settings and download files
[23:22] <blkpower> theadmin: that's the beauty of Linux. If its downloaded through repository. An update updates all programs. Not just ubuntu operating system like windows does.
[23:23] <squinty> BerenBarahir: you could also do a full install on a usb stick (with sufficient capacity)
[23:23] <theadmin> blkpower: Many things could be said to be the beauty of Linux ;)
[23:25] <netameta> i have ubuntu 13.10 "saucy" how can i upgrade it// do i need to upgrade it ?
[23:25] <daftykins> !eol | netameta follow the last link here
[23:25] <theadmin> netameta: Yes, you do, it's EOL by now! You should hurry and update soon
[23:25] <eeee> netameta: sudo do-release-upgrade, and yes
[23:25] <daftykins> oh yeah direct would be fine
[23:25] <daftykins> dooooh, i really need to stop coming in here for a while XD
[23:25] <proshotz> netameta: if its not broken don't fix it.
[23:26] <theadmin> netameta: Also, I recommend staying on 14.04 because it's an LTS release (so you will have to upgrade less often)
[23:26] <theadmin> proshotz: 13.10 is EOL.
[23:26] <theadmin> proshotz: Could very well be "broken"
[23:26] <BerenBarahir> Wow, I got a 4 GB USB stick with Kubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso on it, would that work, squinty?
[23:26] <squinty> is it my old brain that can't find a refresh button in the Software Center or is it just missing?
[23:27] <netameta> daftykins thanks again, theadmin how can i update to 14.04 ?
[23:27] <theadmin> netameta: Run the update manager and follow it's instructions, there should be a huge "Upgrade" button on the top
[23:27] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  you could use that along with   unetbootin    to use the iso plus a persistence area
[23:27] <netameta> theadmin i dont have it on my machine i am ssh connected
[23:28] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: always wanted wanted it to work. And it did sorta. But had problems upgrading while on USB.
[23:28] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  4 gig is too small to do a full install.  16 gig is what i use
[23:28] <eeee> squinty: i don't think there's a refresh button, but im intrigued by the file > sync between computers
[23:28] <eeee> seems cool pretty cool
[23:29] <squinty> eeee:  :-)
[23:29] <netameta> theadmin, is it even possible throw terminal ?
[23:29] <eeee> *seems pretty cool
[23:29] <theadmin> netameta: Ah right, then "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[23:29] <netameta> i see
[23:29] <netameta> well i will read the link first and see
[23:29] <netameta> thanks, theadmin, eeee and proshotz
[23:29] <wbgvewgbw> how to copy an entire folder to a flash drive from the terminal?
[23:30] <theadmin> wbgvewgbw: cp -r your_folder /media/your_flash_drive/
[23:30] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: cp -r /path/to/folder /path/to/flashdrive
[23:31] <BerenBarahir> But my live CD probably only uses about 1GB, so why do I need more than 4 GB to run Kubuntu live off a USB stick?
[23:31] <wbgvewgbw> Yes, but as I discover the "path"?
[23:32] <squinty> BerenBarahir:   pendrivelinux.com and http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ for info on usb stick setups.   unetbootin can be installed via Software Manager or grab a copy off the website for installing with Windows
[23:32] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: you should know the first path, the second is where ever the flash drive is mounted, if you used the button in nautilus it would be under /media/<your username>
[23:32] <theadmin> wbgvewgbw: Browse /media
[23:32] <jcorgan> what is used to create initrd (note: not initramfs) on the ubuntu installer/live dvd?  12.04 had cryptsetup inside it, now 14.04 does not, and i'd like to recreate it with cryptsetup and libraries installed on it.
[23:32] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: you can run it. But my problem happened with upgrading a USB based Ubuntu.
[23:32] <spearhead> BerenBarahir, you don't really need more than 4 gb to do the install, it will pretty much fill up the thumb drive though... so not very useful
[23:33] <jcorgan> that is, what program is used to create the /casper/initrd.lz contents on the installer ISO?
[23:34] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: I am not sure the difference is. But a live CD put on a 1gb USB will work. But you want a full install onto a USB.
[23:34] <squinty> BerenBarahir:  running a full install from a usb stick does have performance hits (ie slower access).. personally I would not be running Kubuntu from a usb stick.
[23:36] <proshotz> Don't you need two USB sticks to install Ubuntu from the live USB to the target install usb
[23:37] <squinty> proshotz: that is one way to do it.
[23:38] <squinty> anyways... have to run.  back later
[23:38] <proshotz> squinty: what's the other way
[23:39] <jcorgan> does anyone know how the contents of the /casper/initrd.lz are determined when the installer live DVD is created?  14.04 is missing cryptsetup and i'd like to add that back.
[23:40] <eeee> proshotz: i guess you could dd an installation, another way would be to use virtualbox, and create a raw disk image file of the usb, load the iso in the vm, and install to the usb
[23:40] <SchrodingersScat> proshotz: agreed with eeee, virtualbox with usb passthrough is good if you don't want to reboot into another install stick
[23:41] <wbgvewgbw> My system broke, I can only access my files via the shell and must pass only one folder (very important to me) and then format. Can someone help me?
[23:41] <proshotz> eeee: so any other way basically creates a live USB with persistent storage.
[23:41] <eeee> proshotz: no, it creates a standalone installation
[23:41] <eeee> as you'd install on a hdd
[23:42] <eeee> grub as a bootloader and everything
[23:42] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: you can use scp -r remote-machine:/home/wbgv/very/important important
[23:42] <wbgvewgbw> I have a USB stick, but I have no idea how to copy the files over the shell.
[23:42] <proshotz> eeee: I am talking about them windows apps that make a bootable USB.
[23:42] <rufianw> Ah.
[23:42] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: Yes
[23:42] <rufianw> I understood you had a remote shell.
[23:42] <rufianw> Then disregard what I said.
[23:43] <rufianw> mount the stick, copy and umount then.
[23:43] <proshotz> eeee: like pendrive for example.
[23:43] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: How? That's the question.
[23:44] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: it should not be difficult if you search in Google, but anyway...
[23:44] <SchrodingersScat> also don't copy the files into something non-persistant..
[23:44] <rufianw> You connect it, search the device name (e.g. sudo fdisk -l and search for a device with the same capacity, it should be something like /dev/sdb1) and then mount it to a folder
[23:44] <rufianw> e.g. mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[23:45] <rufianw> Then you can copy files with cp -r source destination
[23:45] <rufianw> (where source and destination are the origin and destination folders)
[23:45] <rufianw> Finally you unmount with umount /dev/sdb1 (that's not a typo) and get your pen.
[23:46] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: Yes /dev/sdb1 *
[23:46] <jcorgan> i'd like to customize the contents of /casper/initrd.lz on the installer DVD to include cryptsetup. it used to be there in 12.04 but is now missing in 14.04.
[23:46] <rufianw> You can explore directories using cd directory to enter in a directory and ls to list files in the current directory
[23:46] <rufianw> cd .. goes to the parent directory
[23:47] <jcorgan> is there a better place to ask my question than #ubuntu?
[23:48] <rufianw> jcorgan: uh? Did they remove cryptsetup? Latest Ubuntu version support encryption in the default installers.
[23:48] <proshotz> jcorgan: maybe a spinoff has it.
[23:48] <jcorgan> i'm not talking about the cryptsetup that can be installed as part of the regular destination filesystem
[23:49] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: For example, the command to copy, it would be: cp / home / important / media / pen?
[23:49] <jcorgan> the initrd.lz that gets booted into pre-installer used to have cryptsetup on it, now it doesn't
[23:49] <jcorgan> proshotz: interesting.  a spinoff is some derivative distribution, or am i misunderstanding
[23:49] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: almost, spaces are important. Also, you need to use -r (recursive to copy directories)
[23:49] <rufianw> cp -r /home/important /media/pen/
[23:50] <wbgvewgbw> rufianw: For example, the command to copy, it would be: cp /home/important/media/ pen?
[23:50] <rufianw> see above ^
[23:50] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: if you mounted the flash drive to /mnt, you have to cp to /mnt.
[23:50] <rufianw> yes
[23:50] <wbgvewgbw> cp -r /home/important/media/pen?
[23:50] <proshotz> jcorgan: I guess. Like Mint.
[23:50] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: cp -r /home/important/media /mnt
[23:50] <wbgvewgbw> ok
[23:51] <eeee> ^^ run that if you used mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt , earlier
[23:51] <rufianw> jcorgan: so you can't read dm-crypt filesystems in Ubuntu live media?
[23:51] <jcorgan> ok, worth checking out, thanks.  i'd still like to know how canonical creates their iso contents, though
[23:51] <jcorgan> rufianw: once you boot into the live media root filesystem, yes, you can read dm-crypt stuff
[23:52] <spearhead> wbgvewgbw, you need to know the full path to the directory you are wanting to copy and also the folder you mounted your flash drive to.
[23:52] <jcorgan> but i'm talking before that
[23:52] <rufianw> jcorgan: oh, so it is a module.
[23:52] <rufianw> but you need it in the initramfs.
[23:52] <jcorgan> it's a binary and a couple of .so's in the *initrd*
[23:52] <jcorgan> which is not what is created by initramfs as far as i can tell
[23:53] <netameta> how logn does an update usually date ?
[23:53] <rainbowwarrior> hello , can anyone recommend any decent laptop to tv streaming device for Ubuntu please ?
[23:53] <netameta> 13.10 - 14.04
[23:53] <theadmin> netameta: Depends on your network speed
[23:53] <jcorgan> if you look at the kernel command lines on the DVD they all have initrd=/casper/initrd.lz
[23:53] <theadmin> netameta: If everything's downloaded, then about an hour
[23:53] <netameta> well its done downloading
[23:53] <netameta> bah an hor..
[23:53] <theadmin> Well... if you have an SSD, may go a lot faster
[23:53] <proshotz> jcorgan: there are many Ubuntu spinoffs. Probably 10 or more.
[23:53] <netameta> started this in wrong time
[23:54] <theadmin> netameta: You can keep using your machine while it's updating
[23:54] <wbgvewgbw> I tried -r cp /home/important /mnt/pen and is taking, is he copying?
[23:54] <rufianw> theadmin: I'm not sure that's a very good idea.
[23:54] <netameta> i need to go off, for a little bit, and i am afraid the session will time out if there will be any prompt
[23:54] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: yes.
[23:54] <theadmin> netameta: Should have ran it under screen.
[23:55] <jcorgan> proshotz: hoping to avoid downloading and inspecting the live dvd isos for all those spinoffs, but it is a good idea that i may have to resort to, thanks
[23:55] <netameta> whats that?
[23:55] <theadmin> netameta: A tool that allows you to retain terminal sessions even if you disconnect from SSH
[23:55] <spearhead> wbgvewgbw, first of the -r needs to be after the cp and second do you know where the directory is that you want to copy?
[23:55] <theadmin> netameta: Among other things
[23:55] <rufianw> That only applies to remote sessions.
[23:55] <theadmin> rufianw: He is on a remote session
[23:55] <rufianw> Oh, boy.
[23:55] <netameta> theadmin, ah wow
[23:55] <netameta> thats good
[23:55] <rufianw> Never do that again.
[23:56] <theadmin> Actually, yeah, a remote update might be a bad idea in case something decides to börk up
[23:56] <theadmin> Unlikely, but still
[23:56] <rufianw> Which usually does in home Internet connections.
[23:57] <BerenBarahir> Could you please tell me if the following 4 steps would properly install Google Chrome onto Kubuntu 14.04?
[23:57] <BerenBarahir> http://pastebin.com/DJc8GvN5
[23:57] <theadmin> rufianw: Uh, the update doesn't really rely on an Internet connection. Once everything's downloaded you can unplug it
[23:57] <rufianw> theadmin: but the ssh connection does.
[23:57] <theadmin> rufianw: That is true.
[23:57] <wbgvewgbw> Oh, i'm sorry. Actually I tried cp -r /home/important /mnt/pen
[23:57] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: just download google chrome and run it.
[23:58] <rufianw> And if it dies, the update may die too.
[23:58] <spearhead> wbgvewgbw, ok, where is the directory you are trying to copy?
[23:58] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: that will copy the files to a folder called pen on the flash drive
[23:58] <wbgvewgbw> how can I know if it's copying?
[23:58] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: after it's finished type cd /mnt/pen
[23:58] <theadmin> wbgvewgbw: Is it hanging or is it back to the prompt?
[23:58] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: if no error returns, then it probably went through
[23:59] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: type cd /mnt/pen , then ls -la to see all files
[23:59] <jcorgan> ooh, i may have gotten lucky
[23:59] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: don't make it more complicated. Just download it from google and run it.
[23:59] <mattxtn> How would a view a log of cron jobs already run?
[23:59] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: if you want to see all the files type find /mnt/pen in the terminal, it will list them all
[23:59] <proshotz> BerenBarahir: it will install
[23:59] <jcorgan> i didn't think to look at the standard /boot/initrd.img* that gets installed on a normal system