[17:09] <harmw> smoser: you have a link to 12.04 cloud image for me?
[17:12] <harmw> found it: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img
[17:13] <smoser> :)
[17:14] <harmw> hm, will glance convert that to raw on the fly in icehouse?
[17:14] <smoser> "on the fly"
[17:14] <harmw> (raw, because of my ceph backend)
[17:14] <smoser> before running, yes.
[17:14] <smoser> hm.. dont know about that. but i'd hope so.
[17:15] <harmw> hm hm, oh well I could just download and convert myself :p
[17:15] <JayF> I can tell you that ironic-python-agent deploys images using qemu-convert to convert them to raw, so anything qemu-convert supports i supported in ipa
[17:15] <JayF> I have no idea how it works for real clouds :P
[17:18] <harmw> :p
[17:18] <harmw> ill just qemu-img <bla> myself
[17:56] <harmw> hm, 128M is apparently not enough for ubuntu :p
[22:52] <harlowja_> JayF u have some time to answer some questions i'm wondering about ironic, since i think u do stuff there
[22:59] <JayF> harlowja_: fwiw I have less insight into the local state stuff b/c we run IPA driver (patched extensively) with our own dhcp.. so our conductors don't keep much local state at all :)
[23:00] <harlowja_> ya, any local state not gonna surive a conductor crap-the-bucket
[23:00] <harlowja_> *survive
[23:00] <harlowja_> and knowing ops people they will probably resort to killing crap sometimes when shit hits the fan, lol
[23:05] <harlowja_> JayF trying to see if taskflow can help, at least in some part :-P
[23:06] <harlowja_> since it can persist the local state and transition between 'tasks' (not in the ironic terms) while doing this persistence and stuff
[23:07] <JayF> I don't know what taskflow is right off
[23:07] <JayF> and you should tell russell that :P
[23:07] <harlowja_> sure sure
[23:13] <harlowja_> JayF so u know http://docs.openstack.org/developer/taskflow/ :-P
[23:13] <harlowja_> haha
[23:14] <harlowja_> lots of read if u care/have time, ha
[23:14] <JayF> the problem is
[23:14] <JayF> I love reading things
[23:14] <JayF> and care
[23:15] <harlowja_> guess u just need the time part, ha
[23:15] <harlowja_> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow#Summary (the basic idea i guess)
[23:15] <JayF> well when I get distracted by shiny things
[23:16] <JayF> usually the shiny thing is an interesting and long wiki page
[23:16] <harlowja_> ^ long wiki page provided, ha