[00:06] <waddlesplash> Riddell: aha, it's NOT a kwin or xorg problem
[00:06] <waddlesplash> Riddell: not sure exactly how to reproduce, but here: 1. open a KDE file dialog 2. right click in the blank space
[00:07] <waddlesplash> result: system hangs until you kill the parent process
[00:07] <waddlesplash> (I SSHd in, killed it, and then all worked again)
[00:07] <waddlesplash> (I had this happen with Qt Creator. Not sure if other apps are affected, I assume so)
[00:10] <waddlesplash> Riddell: also, I can't seem to change to the Oxygen icon theme; I selected it in system settings and restarted but now about 1/4 of my icons are Oxygen, the other 3/4 are still Breeze
[00:10] <waddlesplash> Riddell: and not in some apps either -- e.g. in Dolphin, the back arrow is Oxygen but the forward arrow is Breeze. Network icon is Oxygen, folder icon is Breeze, etc.
[05:29] <jose> Riddell: pong
[06:16] <soee> good morning
[06:59] <Riddell> hi jose, we were wondering if you knew the status of the new kubuntu website
[07:42] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:38] <Noskcaj> I know kubuntu is meant to work without rebuilds, but can someone install ppa:noskcaj/upower to be sure everything is upower 0.99 compatible?4
[08:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: ping!
[08:57] <Riddell> dh_install: libkf5i18n-dev missing files (usr/lib/*/qt5/mkspecs/modules/*), aborting
[08:57] <Riddell> where's that gone?
[09:18] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: looking
[09:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: I got it
[09:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: got Rishab asking about making a custom distro in the library
[09:19] <Riddell> you able to help?
[09:19] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: are you sure?
[09:20] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: this was in ki18n right>
[09:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: it was using pkg-kde-tools 2 not 3 for some reason
[09:20] <Riddell> yes he's definately asking!
[09:23] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: ah, ok
[09:23] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: where's spacetime?
[09:24]  * yofel wonders why he has no dbus upstart session interface on his eeePC @_@
[09:24] <Riddell> "in the library"
[09:24] <Riddell> with a laptop
[09:24] <yofel> does that need an upstart user session?
[09:24] <yofel> (this is plasma 5)
[09:25] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: can you ask him to come up to the 3rd floor
[09:26] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: plans for lunch?
[09:26] <Riddell> go to a shop and get something quick
[09:26] <Riddell> I've got kf5 and plasma to care abou ttoday
[09:26] <shadeslayer_> mmm
[09:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: he's on his way, what room?
[09:30] <shadeslayer_> cool
[09:30] <shadeslayer_> I found him
[10:13] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: http://paste.kde.org/piy6ovkxk
[10:16] <Riddell> Noskcaj: what' happening with upowre?
[10:16] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: ack
[10:18] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: pushed
[10:22] <Noskcaj> Riddell, ubuntu-gnome is trying to push 0.99.1 for 14.10, but that's only happening if all the other flavours are ok with it
[10:22] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: oh foo make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'lintian', needed by 'post_binary'.  Stop.
[10:22] <Noskcaj> it's pretty unlikely as xubuntu is (understandably) opposed, and mate is having some issues
[10:23] <Riddell> mate? we have mate?
[10:24] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: fix it
[10:24] <shadeslayer_> feeex it
[10:25]  * Riddell makes it sew
[10:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/DIFF
[10:28] <Riddell> why is pkg-kde-tools in github?
[10:31] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer_: will we get a new project neon5 iso today?
[10:32] <shadeslayer_> idk
[10:32] <shadeslayer_> akademy and stuff
[10:32] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer_: isn't that automatic? :O
[10:32] <shadeslayer_> what
[10:32] <shadeslayer_> no 
[10:32] <shadeslayer_> we build the ISO, then test it
[10:32] <shadeslayer_> and if it's fine, we release it
[10:33] <shadeslayer_> ISO building is largely automated though, yes
[10:33] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer_: can't imagine you do that for daily builds :P
[10:33] <shadeslayer_> we don't
[10:33] <shadeslayer_> pointless waste of time
[10:34] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer_: so whats the point then for doing it with a weekly snapshot?
[10:34] <shadeslayer_> to catch regressions from features introduced last week
[10:34] <shadeslayer_> easier testing stuff
[10:35] <Riddell> kdeuser56: a report gets sent to the plasma devs on what needs fixed
[10:35] <kdeuser56> how to help with testing that iso before its released?
[10:37] <Riddell> good question, it's mostly done on shadeslayer_ and apachelogger's secret systems and then reported somewhere secret
[11:40] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: pushed 
[12:24] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: did you update pkg-kde-tools?
[12:25] <Riddell> yep
[12:25] <Riddell>  going green now
[12:29] <shadeslayer_> \o/
[12:53] <Riddell> valorie: yo, where are ye?
[13:00] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: she left I think
[13:00] <Riddell> nah she said she was in the hack room but it's locked
[13:00] <shadeslayer_> oh
[13:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: got her phone number?
[13:01] <shadeslayer_> nope
[13:17] <waddlesplash> Riddell: did you see my messages from last night?
[13:18] <Riddell> waddlesplash: not sure, what did it say?
[13:18] <Riddell> waddlesplash: reading..
[13:23] <waddlesplash> Riddell: yeah. so got any idea how to fix that?
[13:30] <Riddell> waddlesplash: I can't recreate the 100% cpu issue but as I say if you're able to then get gdb to give you a backtrace and report upstream
[13:31] <Riddell> mixed icons, spooky, I usually blame caches for that
[13:43] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[14:03] <soee> why we have some xorg drivers for ati, radeon etc even if my pc does not using any of it ?
[14:20] <waddlesplash> Riddell: oh, not really a CPU issue. It's that the focus is stolen and you can't get it back
[14:21] <waddlesplash> Without killing the process. I didn't have this happen anywhere but a file dialog in Qt Creator
[14:21] <waddlesplash> so maybe you could try right clicking inside a file dialog in Qt Creator and seeing if it does it for you too?
[14:24] <Riddell> oh interesting
[14:24] <Riddell> waddlesplash: I'll try it in a bit, got some other bits to sort out first
[14:38] <waddlesplash> kk
[15:46] <genii> Login Screen settings on 14.10 is crashing every time, but there's not really enough useful info in drkonqi to submit a bug report even though it installed whatever -dbg packages it thought were needed. Is the Login Screen setting crash known already or should I bother with running systemsettings in gdb for a better report?
[16:05] <genii> Hm, not much there either.
[16:25] <waddlesplash> genii: I noticed the same for some Plasma crashes
[16:25] <waddlesplash> even after installing debug packages, the backtrace is full of ??s
[16:28] <genii> The info from gdb is also sparse, other than the usual iBus stuff lately it's only saying "double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x0000000000fb2b00 ***"
[17:38] <ScottK> Riddell: Are we going to FFe/put KF5 5.2 into Utopic?  I went ahead and did kapidox since it was bug fix only.
[17:47] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah I think we should
[17:47] <Riddell> it's not like anything depends on it
[17:47] <Riddell> I'm away for the next week
[17:47] <Riddell> hopefully sgclark will take care of it
[17:47] <Riddell> currently they're stuck on a test in kwidgetsaddons failing :(
[17:48] <ScottK> OK.
[18:04] <yofel> QWARN  : KColumnResizerTest::test(forms) Could not initialize OpenGL for RasterGLSurface, reverting to RasterSurface.
[18:04] <yofel> great, now tests even require openGL -.-
[18:12] <Riddell> hmm lots of warnings about CMake Warning: Manually-specified variables were not used by the project: ECM_MKSPECS_INSTALL_DIR  cos our new pkg-kde-tools passes that to all but not all use it
[18:25] <Riddell> hmm ki18n seems to have gained a requirement for python
[18:39] <Riddell> "Kubuntu recently surpassed 900 fans on Facebook." oh boy!
[18:45] <Riddell> ooh thanks yofel 
[18:46] <yofel> yw :)
[19:41] <yofel> 1/1 Test #1: kitemviews-klistwidgetsearchlinetest ...***Exception: SegFault  0.56 sec
[19:41] <yofel> libEGL warning: GLX/DRI2 is not supported
[19:41] <yofel> you've just got to love arm...
[20:09] <Riddell> meh, arm shmarm
[20:09] <Riddell> didn't we have a volunteer who wanted to look after that?
[20:21] <mcstr_> anyone here got experience with glade/python????
[20:23] <yofel> python yes, pygtk not really
[20:23] <mcstr_> yofel i face so many problems now .... i use glade 3.16.1 ... i draw a simple window 3 radio check buttons
[20:23] <mcstr_> they are all active
[20:23] <mcstr_> even if i uncheck active in settings
[20:24] <mcstr_> all 3 active
[20:24] <mcstr_> that way ofc the program i wanna do cant work
[20:24] <mcstr_> is that a glade problem?=
[20:24] <yofel> no idea, it's been years since I looked at gtk. #ubuntu-app-devel might have gtk folks
[20:25] <mcstr_> yofel i also need 2 things with python first connecting a progressbar to a thread executed and read the choices of a combobox done and then apply the things choosen
[20:25] <mcstr_> app devel is in the same kubuntu irc? yofel
[20:25] <yofel> it's on freenode (which ubuntu irc is just an alias for )
[20:26] <mcstr_> yofel thx i am gonna asking there
[20:27] <mcstr_> no there is no ubuntu-app-devel channel there
[20:28] <mcstr_> ubuntu programming is.....
[20:28] <mcstr_> but only 7 users there
[20:28] <mcstr_> hm
[20:28] <yofel> huh, the channel is there...
[20:28] <mcstr_> not shown in my channel list
[20:28] <yofel> any particular reason why you're using gtk and not qt?
[20:28] <yofel> just join it, it is there
[20:28] <mcstr_> yofel found a good ebook introducing me to python now i am continuing with that
[20:29] <yofel> ah
[20:29] <mcstr_> i can't join it if its not in the list :)
[20:29] <yofel>  /j #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:29] <yofel>  or /join
[20:30] <mcstr_> yofel thx ! that seemed to have worked
[20:31] <mcstr_> yofel is qt as easy as python/gtk?
[20:31] <mcstr_> because ideally i look for something easily connecting drawn interfaces/buttons etc. with the program code
[20:34] <mcstr_> i am relatively new to programming however i manage the interface and the buttons and also implemented threading, but i need just  a little bit more
[20:34] <mcstr_> ideally having someone else colaborating on the prog with me
[20:35] <yofel> mcstr_: qt is a different ui toolkit like gtk, can be used from python too https://wiki.python.org/moin/PyQt/Tutorials
[20:36] <mcstr_> yofel are there good ebooks out for it? and could i just take the same python code i have written already?
[20:36] <yofel> python code yes, but not the gtk parts
[20:36] <mcstr_> hmmm
[20:36] <yofel> #pyqt might be able to point you to something 
[20:37] <mcstr_> yofel ok let me explain what i want to do and please you tell me if its achievable in pyqt or easier than in gtk
[20:37] <mcstr_> because i am losing a bit patience because for the 2 things still needed i find nothing on gtk to achieve it
[20:38] <yofel> if you have something almost working then continuing with gtk might be easier
[20:38] <yofel> I just don't know anything about gtk or where you can get help with it
[20:38] <mcstr_> hm
[20:38] <mcstr_> this is so frustrating
[20:38] <mcstr_> i went to library today grabbed me 3 books about python
[20:38] <mcstr_> 2 are just a joke and the one which is okayish is too mathematical
[20:39] <mcstr_> i cant release a prog where i just have variables defined as numebrs or words
[20:39] <mcstr_> i have the concept of the program so in my brain and should be possible that way
[20:40] <mcstr_> 2 comboboxes each 3 entries then the script checks what you have chosen and on button clicked it executes the chosen combo
[20:40] <mcstr_> i know it's possible
[20:40] <mcstr_> but all examples just do print "hello"
[20:40] <mcstr_> and replacing this with a command is not ennough
[20:40] <mcstr_> it needs a bti more code
[20:40] <mcstr_> maybe even if / else
[20:41] <mcstr_> if i did not suck so badly in maths i would have managed it by now sure
[21:04] <waddlesplash> Riddell: any update on the hanging bug?
[21:19] <Riddell> waddlesplash: if I run qtcreator qt5 version and click File -> Open File or Project and right click on the file view I get the context menu and no hanging
[21:59] <waddlesplash> Riddell: odd. maybe it has something to do with my hw?
[21:59] <waddlesplash> happens here every time
[21:59] <waddlesplash> even after reboots
[22:00] <yofel_> sounds very much like driver issues to me...
[22:04] <Riddell> needs some faffing around wiht gdb to find out
[22:05] <waddlesplash> yes, well
[22:05] <waddlesplash> my gdb cli skills are flaky at best
[22:05] <waddlesplash> looking at htop, there does not appear to be anything with too much cpu usage
[22:06] <waddlesplash> but just running "killall qtcreator" is enough to fix it
[22:07] <waddlesplash> I'll go ask the KF5 guys
[22:08] <Riddell> good luck