[00:29] <urielvigilant> After an today update to my Lubuntu 14.04.1 , the bcm 4311 stopped working suddently. When reboot appear this message at OS staring for a second : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8323050/   what happened?
[00:31] <wxl> !info fw-cutter
[00:31] <ubottu> Package fw-cutter does not exist in trusty
[00:31] <wxl> ahhhh poo what's it calledf
[00:32] <wxl> urielvigilant: try re-installing firmware-b43legacy-installer
[00:32] <wxl> that might do the trick. if not, uninstall and reinstall
[00:33] <wxl> if that doesn't work, you might actually have to get the firmware and use the firmware cutter to install it
[00:34] <wxl> if that fixes it, please file a bug. i would assume that it upgraded the driver but not the firmware
[00:34] <urielvigilant> ok
[00:35] <urielvigilant> like this doensit : sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[00:35] <wxl> urielvigilant: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firmware-b43-installer
[00:35] <urielvigilant> ok lets try
[00:36] <wxl> urielvigilant: i'm not sure it will happen immediately. you'll probably have to reboot
[00:37] <urielvigilant> its installing, let sii if it work
[00:37] <urielvigilant> ok i will try
[00:37] <urielvigilant> reboot
[00:37] <urielvigilant> too
[00:37] <wxl> i mean there's other ways around it but that's easier XD
[00:37] <urielvigilant> i apretiate because iam newby
[00:37] <urielvigilant> nad my english it is not the better one
[00:38] <ceasefires> So, my OS randomly decided to be in 640x480 resolution and its the only res option in my monitor preferences
[00:38] <ceasefires> Any idea on how to fix this?
[00:39] <ceasefires> I have booted into it a few times over the last day or so and did not have this problem
[00:40] <urielvigilant> wxl last time it only worked after this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8323110/  do you think i will need to do it again?
[00:44] <wxl> quite possible, ur
[00:44] <wxl> oops
[00:44] <wxl> well off i go
[00:44] <wxl> *poof*
[00:55] <urielvigilant> wxl Ok thanks it worked fine for me only with your command line type and reboot
[00:55] <urielvigilant> But..why this dayly update did this to firmware ?
[01:00] <urielvigilant> exit
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[11:16] <Let-Love-Lead> Hi does lxde has power manager?
[11:29] <pgb> lewellyn: mhm, it's called xfce4-power-manager ;-)
[11:30] <pgb> ups
[11:30] <pgb> he's gone :P
[11:55] <phillw> wxl: FYI, Julien broke the daily ISO's he's now fixing them :)
[15:41] <silverlion> good day
[16:16] <wxl> phillw: thanks for the heads up. how did you find this out before me? :)
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[16:39] <lewellyn> pgb: no, i'm here ;)
[16:42] <phillw> wxl: julien tweeted it several hours ago :)
[16:46] <wxl> phillw: oh tweets :/ what's his id?
[16:47] <phillw> wxl: Julien Lavergne
[16:47] <wxl> phillw: twitter.com/JulienLavergne?
[16:48] <phillw> wxl: actually it is  @gilir on Twitter 
[16:48] <wxl> that makes sense phillw :)
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[17:11] <ianorlinlaptop> wxl sent email from new slypheed did it arrive?
[17:11] <ianorlinlaptop> the one in trusty proposed
[17:33] <wxl> ianorlinlaptop: yeah heven't got there yet
[17:38] <wxl> ianorlinlaptop: reply sent
[17:39] <wxl> ianorlinlaptop: did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1336944 ?
[17:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1336944 in lxsession (Ubuntu Trusty) "lxsession ignores ~/.config/autostart directory" [Undecided,New]
[17:50] <ianorlinlaptop> no I just saw that now
[17:50] <wxl> ianorlinlaptop: there's an intention of an sru on that one too afaik
[17:51] <ianorlinlaptop> is it in proposed?
[17:51] <wxl> don't think so yet
[17:53] <ianorlinlaptop> hmm who should create the account to test pop3?
[17:54] <wxl> ianorlinlaptop: you can if you want
[17:57] <ianorlinlaptop> ok
[18:20] <wxl> hahha that sounds hilarious
[18:21] <ianorlinlaptop> when it means the mailbox is inaccessable in pop3 bug how do I reproduce that
[18:22] <wxl> ooops wrong channel as usual :)
[18:22] <wxl> well, it's more than it can access the pop3 mail but in repeated access attempts, the mail that was there is deleted
[18:24] <ianorlinlaptop> yeah I still have the pop3 mail after deleting it from server in webmail
[18:25] <wxl> ianorlinlaptop: with the new version or with the old version? it would be nice to confirm the problem too
[18:25] <ianorlinlaptop> new version
[18:25] <ianorlinlaptop> ok will need to switch to another comp then
[18:51] <ianorlinlaptop> still not that sure how to get Pop to lose mail on old sylpheed
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[19:37] <silverlion> holstein : ping
[19:38] <holstein> silverlion: hey
[19:38] <silverlion> holstein : hey there
[19:39] <silverlion> this time I could use your experience in lubuntu ;)
[19:39] <silverlion> holstein : here is the problem: I've got a new Laptop (Acer E 17) with sound issues
[19:39] <silverlion> the sound output of DVDs f. ex. works pretty fine
[19:40] <silverlion> but as soon as I plug in a headset with mic the mic is not recognized (neither with alsa nor with pulse)
[19:40] <silverlion> any thoughts?
[19:48] <holstein> silverlion: well, its not a USB mic, correct?
[19:48] <silverlion> holstein : correct
[19:48] <holstein> alsa wont see things you plug into the card/device like that
[19:48] <silverlion> its a 3.5 chinch
[19:49] <holstein> as far as alsa is concerned, its just the same card
[19:49] <silverlion> but pulse doesnt either
[19:49] <holstein> well, thast the point
[19:49] <holstein> pulse wont see "the headset" like that
[19:49] <holstein> its just an analog extention of the same device
[19:49] <holstein> i would just open "alsamixer" and tweak everything
[19:49] <holstein> dont trust the labels
[19:50] <silverlion> holstein well how can I use a headset then?
[19:50] <holstein> silverlion: plug it in, and tweak settings in alsamixer and pavucontrol
[19:50] <silverlion> holstein : already tried and failed :(
[19:50] <silverlion> any advises?
[19:50] <holstein> silverlion: you are looking for a device to show up, as if its another USB audio device, and its not
[19:50] <holstein> yes
[19:50] <holstein> use other live CD's and test
[19:50] <silverlion> I'm listening ;)
[19:51] <silverlion> ok, will do
[19:51] <holstein> you can run "aplay -l" and "arecord -l" and search for the devices that come up there
[19:51] <silverlion> I have just created a unity usb stick
[19:51] <holstein> but, you should look in "alsamixer" and tweak *everything*
[19:51] <silverlion> what do you mean by "everything"?
[19:51] <holstein>  also, you should try the supported operating system and try the hardware to make sure its not "broken"
[19:51] <wxl> you can tweak how much caffiene is in your bloodstream? if so, i'm totally using alsamixer.
[19:51] <holstein> silverlion: i mean, you may not see a label that says "heres the headhpones"
[19:52] <silverlion> holstein : kk
[19:52] <holstein> silverlion: you may (as i have) see a label that says "rear" or "3d" or *who knows* that is the mic
[19:52] <holstein> so, uyo just try *all* settings that alsa presentgs
[19:52] <holstein> presents*
[19:53] <silverlion> will do
[19:53] <holstein> and try the connection with the device in the supported operating system
[19:53] <silverlion> I'm just booting up ubuntu 14.04.1
[19:53] <holstein> you could have a headset that is for a phone that is not intended to be used with the computer
[19:53] <silverlion> holstein : this laptop was shipped with no supported US
[19:53] <silverlion> US == OS
[19:53]  * wxl tried to turn up caffiene level in alsamixer but it doesn't work and decides to declare a bug
[19:54] <holstein> silverlion: they likely promise to support one, and offer a driver for one.. all im sayhing is, thats a way to be sure the hardware is working at all
[19:54] <silverlion> holstein : I've tried both I even bought a 2 in 1 cable to plug in "normal" computer headsets
[19:54] <holstein> silverlion: sure.. and i'll just get some USB headset that i know works.. since they are cheap and "better"
[19:54] <silverlion> I hear you holstein
[19:54]  * genii moderates his caffeine level by sipping more coffee
[19:55] <silverlion> genii : :P
[19:55] <wxl> oh that's a good suggestion!
[19:55] <silverlion> holstein : so you're suggesting to get an usb headset?
[19:55] <silverlion> guess they work better, dont they?
[19:55] <holstein> i put "better" in quotes
[19:55] <holstein> USB devices take the audio "out of the box", which can offer better quality
[19:56] <holstein> it *will* show up in pavucontrol routable as another device
[19:56] <holstein> it will offer a headset to you if your card cant support alsa
[19:57] <holstein> lubuntu doesnt ship pluse though..i would try a xubntu live CD and fire up "pavucontrol" and see what you have there
[19:57] <ianorlin> do they make some of those with noise canceling?
[19:57] <holstein> silverlion: good luck.. im off for a nap..
[19:57] <ianorlin> also those are independent of soundcard on box right?
[19:57] <silverlion> holstein : thanks for the moment!
[19:58] <ianorlin> or would I need usb soundcard for that
[19:59] <silverlion> guess I'll have to go to the store tomorrow to get a usb headset
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[20:00] <silverlion> my soundcard does not work with other headsets :(
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[20:55] <wxl> ianorlin: you saw the upower thing Noskcaj just emailed about?
[20:56] <Noskcaj> Since some lubuntu stuff is out of sync with debian, it's only xfce4-power-manager that really needs testing
[20:57] <wxl> i'll check it out when i get home in front of my laptop. thanks Noskcaj !
[20:57] <Noskcaj> thanks
[20:58] <wxl> Noskcaj: want something else to work on now? XD
[20:58] <Noskcaj> sure
[20:59] <wxl> this is kind of a curious one and i'm thinking is an easy fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obconf/+bug/1272834
[20:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1272834 in obconf (Ubuntu) "obconf segfaults with the --tab option" [Medium,Confirmed]
[21:03] <Noskcaj> My coding ability is non-existent, but i'll triage the bug and ask some people about it
[21:04] <wxl> Noskcaj: oh i figured with you messing with upower, it might suggest otherwise :)
[21:06] <Noskcaj> I can package, and i can triage stuff
[21:06]  * silverlion only can video edit :(
[21:07] <silverlion> is that bad ;) ?
[21:07] <wxl> Noskcaj: do you package for debian, too?
[21:13] <Noskcaj> wxl, yeah
[21:13] <Noskcaj> silverlion, I can do that, so no
[21:13] <wxl> ouch it's getting mean in here
[21:13] <wxl> :)
[21:13] <silverlion> Noskcaj : what do you do?
[21:13] <Noskcaj> *can't
[21:13] <Noskcaj> woops
[21:14] <silverlion> kk
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[23:19] <Gassho> what do i install to interpret and display epub files? (14.04) will we have a 14.10 lubuntu?
[23:19] <wxl> Gassho: 14.10's coming in october
[23:19] <wxl> !release
[23:19] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[23:19] <Gassho> awsum :D
[23:19]  * Gassho ^5's wxl ^^
[23:19] <wxl> !info calibre
[23:19] <ubottu> calibre (source: calibre): e-book converter and library management. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.25.0+dfsg-1build1 (trusty), package size 17020 kB, installed size 38844 kB
[23:19] <wxl> there's your epub viewer, Gassho ^
[23:20]  * Gassho ^5's wxl ^^
[23:21] <wxl> Gassho: you're welcome to help out with testing for 14.10 if you're feeling ambitious :)
[23:21] <Gassho> :c
[23:21] <Gassho> oh i guess i could do it froma  live dvd
[23:21] <wxl> well from a virtual machine
[23:21] <wxl> it's not a requirement :)
[23:22] <Gassho> I must rectify myself before I could possibly assist others...
[23:22] <wxl> heheh makes sense
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