[00:30] <sergiusens> robru: hey, you around?
[00:30] <sergiusens> robru: I would to get some silos for bug fixes going
[00:31] <sergiusens> and line 47
[00:33] <robru> sergiusens: hah, just caught me
[00:34] <sergiusens> yay :)
[00:34] <robru> sergiusens: just line 47?
[00:34] <sergiusens> robru: and 53
[00:34] <robru> oh 53
[00:35] <robru> ah
[00:35] <sergiusens> both
[00:35] <sergiusens> robru: 47 is just desktop
[00:35] <sergiusens> both are bug fixes
[00:37] <robru> sergiusens: ok you got silos 1 and 12
[00:38] <sergiusens> robru: thanks
[00:38] <robru> sergiusens: you're welcome!
[00:38] <ToyKeeper> D'oh.  Couldn't get to the "Never auto-update!  Ever!" setting fast enough to keep it from downloading the update and asking me to reboot.
[00:39] <sergiusens> robru: so for nuntium, after setting testing pass and before clearing the silo we should need to source copy, right?
[00:39] <robru> sergiusens: ehhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:40] <robru> sergiusens: what makes you think you need a source copy?
[00:43] <robru> sergiusens: anyway I pre-filled your spreadsheet row with the magic sync rune that works more reliably than the simple one that everybody is struggling with, so basically you just need to hit build on the RTM silo before hitting clean on the utopic silo (but after you do the publish on the utopic silo) and you should be fine.
[00:45] <robru> anyway, I'm out. goodnight!
[02:04] <imgbot> [03:04] <imgbot> [03:49] <imgbot> [03:49] <imgbot> [03:55] <sergiusens> robru: can you get the rtm silo ready for nuntium?
[03:55] <sergiusens> robru: testing pass marked for the utopic one
[04:07] <sergiusens> or Mirv, if you become avail, can you get nuntium setup for rtm before nuntium/utopic vanishes from the ppa :-)
[04:11] <Mirv> morning!
[04:11] <Mirv> sergiusens: sure
[04:12] <sergiusens> Mirv: thanks, and it is the morning, correct, 1AM :-P
[04:14] <Mirv> sergiusens: haha :)
[04:14] <Mirv> a fresh 7am
[04:19] <imgbot> [04:19] <imgbot> [06:52] <tvoss> good morning
[06:52] <tvoss> trainguards, could someone check why network-manager is stuck in proposed?
[07:09] <Mirv> tvoss: hmm
[07:12] <Mirv> tvoss: it claims autopkg test fail http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-network-manager/lastBuild/?
[07:12] <Mirv> but it succeeded on amd64, so makes me think it should be retried on i386
[07:14] <tvoss> Mirv, yup, cyphermox mentioned something along those lines
[07:18] <Mirv> tvoss: what is slightly unclear to me is who can rerun those jobs or if they're automatically retried. I'd ping pitti but he's not online
[07:18] <tvoss> Mirv, also: silo 7 does not hold packages anymore, although it still says so in the dashboard
[07:18] <tvoss> @retry: yeah, the autopackage test setup is somewhat opaque to me, too
[07:20] <Mirv> tvoss: interesting, once again some messup. what about getting that network-manager to rtm?
[07:21] <Mirv> I see there's line 40 for rtm network-manager landing with different description
[07:21] <tvoss> Mirv, not sure, just talking to pitti in #ubuntu-touch
[07:21] <tvoss> Mirv, seems like the network manager version actually regresses the kill switch on i386
[07:21] <Mirv> ah he's there
[07:21] <tvoss> Mirv, yup
[07:30]  * Mirv does the Mir landing dance in 5 moves
[07:56] <tvoss> sil2100, ping
[07:57] <brendand> psivaa, can i get a link to the krillin dashboard again?
[07:57] <sil2100> tvoss: pong
[07:58] <popey> brendand: http://dashboard.ubuntu-ci:8080/smokeng/ ?
[07:59] <tvoss> sil2100, pm
[08:28] <sil2100> I love deleting local branches by accident, sigh
[09:02] <brendand> ogra_, be prepared for questions about testing your silo
[09:02] <ogra_> brendand, i totally am :) both packages are really hard to install even
[09:02] <ogra_> i hope i did describe it well enough but definitely expect questions
[09:10] <popey> davmor2: do you have the bug handy where the first two letters of keyboard input are upper case?
[09:11] <davmor2> popey: no I can dig it out after
[09:11] <popey> seems fixed
[09:11] <davmor2> popey: it only happens on fisrt search
[09:12] <popey> used to happen all the time for me
[09:14] <bzoltan> brendand: I managed to fix the test environment and now I am in the middle of testing again the rtm-silo9 on #33
[09:15] <brendand> bzoltan, ok - i have to drop that one for now and get ogra_'s silo signed off
[09:15] <bzoltan> brendand:  sure
[09:15] <brendand> bzoltan, did you get the fix landed in utopic for that bug?
[09:15] <bzoltan> brendand:  not yet, but we know what the problem is.
[09:16] <bzoltan> brendand:  I will keep you posted
[09:19] <Mirv> psivaa: bye!
[09:25] <brendand> sil2100, i was initially very sceptical when i heard the words 'exception for isolated bugfixes' :)
[09:25] <sil2100> hah ;)
[09:25] <psivaa> Mirv: I had to take a break and wasn't sure if the meeting would still go on when i am back :)
[09:26] <brendand> sil2100, there has to be some concrete definition of that
[09:34] <brendand> ogra_, so i do not actually install the silo, just follow your instructions, right?
[09:34] <ogra_> right, the install would fail
[09:35] <ogra_> brendand, note that the lxc-android config install might need the full package name ... the wildcard in the instructions might not work
[09:39] <brendand> ogra_, $ adb shell android-gadget-service ssh enable
[09:39] <brendand> android-gadget-service failed: ssh is unknown
[09:39] <ogra_> other way round
[09:39] <ogra_> enable ssh
[09:40] <ogra_> did i write "ssh enable" ?
[09:41] <brendand> ogra_, yes :)
[09:41] <ogra_> oops, sorry
[09:41] <brendand> ogra_, copy paste, both dumb and smart :)
[09:48] <brendand> ogra_, right .deb file? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/184531943/android-tools-adbd_4.2.2%2Bgit20130218-3ubuntu34_armhf.deb
[09:49] <ogra_> yep
[09:51] <brendand> ogra_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8325926/
[09:51] <ogra_> brendand, you didnt follow the instructions :)
[09:51] <ogra_> on krillin you need to unmount /etc/init/android-tools-adbd.conf first
[09:52]  * ogra_ thought he wrote that, are there instructions missing in the comments
[09:52] <brendand> ogra_, you mean: phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo umount /etc/init/android-tools-adbd.conf
[09:52] <ogra_> yeah
[09:52] <brendand> ogra_, it's there in the list of commands i ran
[09:53] <brendand> ogra_, try again i guess?
[09:53] <ogra_> yeah
[09:53] <brendand> ogra_, well it says it's not mounted so i guess that worked
[09:54] <tvoss> sil2100, ping
[09:54] <brendand> which doesn't make much sense - now i see the error
[09:54] <ogra_> i explicitly copy/pasted the log of me doing it (at least after line 10), so i would expect it to work
[09:55] <brendand> ogra_, not sure, it says it's not mounted, so what other reason could produce that error?
[09:55] <ogra_> oh
[09:55] <ogra_> did you remouont the rootfs rw yet ?
[10:02] <davmor2> Saviq: is it me or is there a more noticable lag on drawing the icons in scopes
[10:02] <brendand> ogra_, yes i did
[10:03] <brendand> ogra_, $ sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[10:03] <ogra_> hmm, then it shouldnt complain
[10:04] <ogra_> that makes no sense ... if the job is unmounted it cant be busy
[10:05] <davmor2> Saviq: if you open the apps scope and scroll it down to the bottom of the page and then straight back to the top again the whole top page is is visibly blank for maybe 1/2 a second
[10:22] <ogra_> brendand, did you get anywhere yet ?
[10:23] <brendand> ogra_, nope - i don't really know where to go next except to start again. sure you didn't forget anything?
[10:23] <ogra_> i copy pasted the complete process from the terminal i ran it in
[10:24] <ogra_> it looks like your unmounting didnt work
[10:26] <ogra_> (were there any errors when you did unmount ? )
[10:27] <brendand> ogra_, if it didn't work, why do i get an error to say that it's not mounted when i run it again?
[10:27] <brendand> ogra_, $ sudo umount /etc/init/android-tools-adbd.conf
[10:27] <brendand> umount: /etc/init/android-tools-adbd.conf: not mounted
[10:27] <ogra_> i dont know but the error you get when installing clearly points towards not bein able to write it bceause it is still moounted
[10:28] <ogra_> mount |grep adbd
[10:28] <ogra_> is it still listed there ?
[10:31] <brendand> ogra_, nope
[10:32] <ogra_> how weird
[10:32] <ogra_> try sudo umount -l /etc/init/android-tools-adbd.conf
[10:32] <ogra_> and then try the install again
[10:32] <brendand> we don't even have man in rtm :/
[10:33] <ogra_> we dont have it in the image at all
[10:33] <brendand> ogra_, the result is the same
[10:33] <ogra_> well, then try the hard way
[10:33] <ogra_> sudo dpkg -x /path/to/deb /
[10:34] <ogra_> that should work in any case
[10:34] <cjwatson> brendand: man-db is in the distribution, just not in the image
[10:34] <brendand> ogra_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326120/
[10:34] <ogra_> effectively you only need the new binary and the udev rule ... nothing in the maintainer scripts has ever changed
[10:35]  * ogra_ sighs 
[10:35] <ogra_> the file is 100% definitvely not unmounted
[10:36] <brendand> it's not mounted but it's not unmounted :)
[10:36] <brendand> it's somewhere in between
[10:37] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326125/
[10:37] <ogra_> i still have the un-edited original terminal output here
[10:38] <ogra_> hmm
[10:38] <ogra_> i indeed did remount / rw before unmounting it ...
[10:38] <ogra_> reboot and try to change that order
[10:39] <ogra_> hmm
[10:39] <ogra_> i didnt mean he should reboot his PC
[10:44] <ogra_> brendand, i didnt mean the PC :)
[10:44] <brendand> yes, i wrote 'shutdown now -r' in the wrong terminal. laugh if you wish
[10:44] <ogra_> why dont you just type reboot ? :)
[10:44] <ogra_> (which just calls this line)
[10:45] <sil2100> You want brendand to reboot his PC even faster and more frequently?!
[10:45] <ogra_> haha
[10:45] <ogra_> asac, so did someone file a bug yet about the krillin screen not shutting off ?
[10:45]  * ogra_ sees it all the time now 
[10:46] <ogra_> sil2100, that smells like another blocker
[10:46] <sil2100> Not shutting off? Like, never?
[10:46] <ogra_> right
[10:46] <ogra_> try it ... on rtm ... switch it on and leave it sit
[10:46] <sil2100> Now since when that's happening? Since I remember a bug about not being able to wake up
[10:46] <asac> ogra_: i didnt find out :/
[10:47] <asac> sil2100: yes never... but N4 has the same
[10:47] <asac> just this morning again... after i got calendar notification N4 stayed on
[10:47] <asac> for 1h
[10:47] <brendand> ogra_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326189/
[10:47] <brendand> ogra_, i'm not sure why the first 3 commands are on the same line
[10:47] <ogra_> sil2100, i noticed it after one device tarball bump, but i dont remember which ... for me it was also not happening all teh time  first
[10:47] <asac> ogra_: http://15.125.74.138:8000/
[10:48] <asac> ogra_: if you can find it there then we have it somewhat on radar at least :)
[10:48] <asac> dont worry, takes like 1 minmute to load
[10:48] <ogra_> brendand, sigh ... can you perhaps just try the same way as for lxc-android-config ? there that file is definitely not mounted
[10:49] <ogra_> asac, i have it open somewhere already
[10:49] <asac> ogra_: can you give me the bug? it doesnt show up here, but it should
[10:49] <ogra_> if i find one
[10:50] <ogra_> i mean i have the list open
[10:50] <ogra_> :)
[10:50] <asac> ogra_: you said you have it open somewhere :)
[10:50] <asac> ah
[10:50] <asac> where would i file one against?
[10:50]  * ogra_ twiddles thumbs after hoitting reload
[10:50] <ogra_> asac, seems krillin specific
[10:50] <ogra_> and device tarball specific
[10:50] <asac> no
[10:50] <asac> i see it on n4
[10:50] <asac> :)
[10:50] <ogra_> oh
[10:50] <asac> after calendar notification
[10:50] <ogra_> powerd
[10:50] <asac> it stays on
[10:50] <asac> forevfer
[10:51] <ogra_> ah
[10:51] <asac> at least it did this morning
[10:51] <ogra_> on krillin i simply dont see it auto suspend at all
[10:51]  * asac waits for next calendar notification
[10:51] <asac> hmm
[10:51] <ogra_> in rtm that is
[10:52] <asac> ogra_: trying
[10:52] <asac> ogra_: how long is the timeout usually?>
[10:52] <ogra_> 1min i think
[10:52] <asac> ok it dimmed
[10:52] <ogra_> hmm
[10:52] <asac> but is still on
[10:52] <ogra_> i have set mine to 3 ...
[10:52] <asac> after 30 secs i think
[10:52] <asac> now its off
[10:53] <asac> so it surely doesnt happen all times
[10:53] <brendand> ogra_, now my krillin is offline, what did i do to it?
[10:53] <ogra_> which used to work fine, but not anymore
[10:53] <ogra_> brendand, passwd/pin is set ?
[10:53] <asac> ok that was just with lock scrfeen onl... now i unlocked it and look at dash
[10:53] <asac> lets see if it happens there too
[10:54]  * asac will send himself a sms next
[10:54] <ogra_> tell you something nice then :)
[10:54] <sil2100> asac, ogra_: let's make sure davmor2 tests this additionally during his exploratory testing today
[10:54] <asac> yeah
[10:54] <ogra_> yep
[10:54] <asac> i am testing a bit too
[10:55] <asac> sms woke up screen, displayed notification
[10:55] <ogra_> i'm not sure if it is because i changed the timeout
[10:55] <brendand> ogra_, nope
[10:55] <ogra_> brendand, set it :)
[10:55] <sil2100> davmor2: how's the silo testing going?
[10:55] <asac> ogra_: not easy to repro
[10:55] <brendand> ogra_, sorry - mean i did set it and nothing changed
[10:55] <asac> ogra_: also notification from sms makes it go sleep after
[10:55] <ogra_> brendand, then toggle dev-mode on in the settings ... the logic to handle this is in lxc-android config
[10:56] <ogra_> (which you presumably didnt install yet)
[10:57] <asac> i will try to remember to not push the power off button today
[10:57] <asac> s i can see this
[11:02] <davmor2> sil2100: ah sorry miles away testing, yes so far so good, what this that I'm additionally testing in exploratory?
[11:02] <davmor2> reading scrollback
[11:05] <asac> davmor2: its about screens not going off sometimes
[11:06] <asac> but i cannot reproduce it anymore, so not sure if its just memory that feels close
[11:06] <ogra_> asac, there was an indicator-power landing tonight
[11:06] <ogra_> that might have fixed it
[11:06] <asac> do i have that on rtm and devel?
[11:06] <davmor2> asac: I'll keep an eye out for it but I've not seen anything like
[11:06] <ogra_> yes
[11:06] <asac> right
[11:06] <ogra_> it has to land in devel first ...
[11:06] <asac> dont put too much effort. we migth want to work screen off test into our long running milestone testplans maybe
[11:07] <ogra_> and it landed in image 30 in rtm
[11:07] <asac> ah then i have it i guess
[11:07] <asac> let me see
[11:07] <ogra_> you should be on 32 if you updated this morning
[11:07] <asac> ogra_: yeah 32
[11:07] <asac> cool.
[11:08] <asac> so lets just stay aware to spot this issue if its still there
[11:13] <ogra_> brendand, did you get anywhere yet ?
[11:14] <brendand> ogra_, i started from scratch and the pastebin instructions still don't work - even with the mount and umount commands swapped
[11:14] <brendand> ogra_, trying lxc-android-config
[11:15] <ogra_> try if you can get adbd installed the same way perhaps (i never tried, but theoretically it should work)
[11:15] <brendand> ugh why is adb reboot recovery not responding?
[11:15] <ogra_> these packages are sadly a pain to install
[11:15] <ogra_> well, is adb devices listing it ?
[11:16] <brendand> yes
[11:16] <ogra_> as online ?
[11:17] <ogra_> worst case just use ssh: "sudo reboot -f recovery"
[11:17] <ogra_> upstart knows how to do that too ;)
[11:17] <ogra_> the half installed adbd might get you in a broken adb state ...
[11:18] <brendand> yeah probably
[11:19] <brendand> ogra_, i have to change 'adb shell mount -o loop /data/system.img /mnt' right?
[11:19] <ogra_> yeah
[11:19] <ogra_> one sec i'm trying to do the same here
[11:20] <brendand> ogra_, i think it's just mount /system
[11:20] <brendand> ogra_, this is for Powerd on krillin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8224550/
[11:20] <ogra_> ~ # mkdir /mnt
[11:20] <ogra_> ~ # mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p6 /mnt
[11:20] <ogra_> thats on krillin
[11:21] <ogra_> oh, but yeah, yours is way more elegant
[11:21] <ogra_> i didnt know that /system is in fstab :)
[11:21] <ogra_> (in recovery)
[11:22] <brendand> # adb shell chroot /mnt /usr/bin/env PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin dpkg -i <package>?
[11:22] <brendand> after that
[11:23] <brendand> agh
[11:24] <brendand> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326371/
[11:25] <ogra_> sigh
[11:30] <brendand> ogra_, got it, i think
[11:30] <ogra_> i got it too :)
[11:31] <brendand> ogra_, touch /etc/init.d/android-tools-adbd?
[11:31] <ogra_> heh, nope, more complex ... by creating /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
[11:31] <ogra_> #!/bin/sh
[11:31] <ogra_> exit 101
[11:31] <ogra_> ...
[11:31] <ogra_> and making it executable
[11:31] <ogra_> (all inside the chroot)
[11:32] <brendand> ogra_, i just followed http://paste.ubuntu.com/8224550/ and replaced the name as appropriate
[11:32] <brendand> ogra_, i hope we have the same result
[11:32] <brendand> ogra_, at least dpkg claims it's installed
[11:32] <brendand> ogra_, now the same with lxc-android-config right?
[11:32] <ogra_> right, all that counts is the adbd binary and the udev rule
[11:32] <ogra_> bith should end up in the right places that way
[11:32] <ogra_> *both
[11:33] <brendand> ogra_, should i double check?
[11:33] <ogra_> nah, i guess you are fine
[11:34]  * sil2100 goes off to lunch
[11:34] <sil2100> o/
[11:34] <ogra_> and yes, now the same with lxc-android-config
[11:35] <ogra_> of which you want two upstart jobs ... /etc/init/force-adb.conf and /etc/init/force-mtp.conf
[11:35] <ogra_> (both are new files, so should cause any dpkg issues)
[11:36] <ogra_> *should not
[11:41] <davmor2> Saviq: so I think I know why it looks like the scopes overview page is showing the breakage,  If you click slightly below the three main scopes and then keep your finger in contact with the screen you can't interact with the scopes so it looks like it has frozen
[11:47] <Mirv> mvo_: hey! since you've been involved with this release even though the packaging changes are not from you, could you ack/nack the debian/ parts of https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-003-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu_3.1.1+14.10.20140912.1-0ubuntu1.diff ?
[11:48] <Mirv> (in the role of a core-dev that must ack packaging changes)
[11:49] <bzoltan> mvo_:  the change is to introduce two new dependencies. the emulator and the reviewer tools
[11:50] <mvo_> Mirv: sure, give me a sec
[11:51] <bzoltan> mvo_: Mirv: hold on please
[11:51] <davmor2> sil2100: okay I'm pretty happy with unity 8 so I'm going to release the Lions^WBears^Wsilos... silos is the word I was after
[11:51] <mvo_> bzoltan: can I haz my updated https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/lp1366791-deploy-finished in there too please?
[11:51] <bzoltan> mvo_:  that is why I said "hold on" :D
[11:51] <mvo_> bzoltan: \o/
[11:52] <brendand> ogra_, is this all fine? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326516/
[11:52] <ogra_> looks very good, yeah
[11:54] <mvo_> Mirv: fwiw, the debian change look fine
[11:56] <Mirv> mvo_: thanks! but apparently we need a rebuild..
[11:57] <davmor2> sil2100, Mirv, ogra_: ^^
[11:57] <Mirv> davmor2: o_O
[11:57] <mvo_> yes
[11:57] <Mirv> the 17 needs that reconfigure now
[11:57]  * Mirv does that
[11:57] <ogra_> davmor2, \o/
[11:58] <davmor2> Mirv: no idea
[11:58] <brendand> ogra_, ok - the hard part done - i hope!
[11:58] <brendand> ogra_, not for the testing
[11:58] <ogra_> yeah
[11:58] <Mirv> davmor2: doing the needed dances
[11:58] <brendand> s/not/now
[11:58] <brendand> well, after i come back
[11:59] <brendand> sil2100, did you get my email?
[11:59] <ogra_> brendand, note that you tested it since over a week already in utopic ;)
[11:59] <ogra_> (functionality wise )
[11:59] <brendand> ogra_, well yes (sort of)
[12:00]  * ogra_ tries out the new emulator 
[12:01] <davmor2> ogra_: awwww bless you think we still have utopic devices :P
[12:01] <ogra_> haha
[12:02] <Mirv> davmor2: after these landings everything will be _perfect_!
[12:02] <Mirv> oh, + the second unity8 fix upcoming...
[12:02] <davmor2> Mirv: no
[12:03] <davmor2> Mirv: they will however be better.
[12:03] <Mirv> indeed
[12:04] <Mirv> I'm quite eager to use rtm for a day after that second unity8 fix lands later
[12:06]  * Mirv reports necessary rituals done
[12:07] <Mirv> except that the job keeps on runnin'
[12:07] <davmor2> Mirv: I don't believe you ;)
[12:10]  * Mirv reports extra special dance needed
[12:11] <ogra_> did you videotape it so others can learn it at least ?
[12:11] <Mirv> ogra_: just combine A + B + C from my e-mail and do everything :)
[12:11] <ogra_> lol
[12:14] <Mirv> \o/
[12:14] <Mirv> soon there should be a bot message too
[12:15] <Mirv> we'll see sil2100's fixes in effect only for new silo syncs
[12:55] <sil2100> Mirv: is all ok with 17 and 10? :)
[12:55] <sil2100> Everything done? Everything released? :D
[12:55] <sil2100> Can we 'ship it'? ;D
[12:56] <bzoltan> ToyKeeper:  I have updated the wiki with some typical use cases and some extra info -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ui-toolkit Also I have tuned the test plan script and pushed to the staging ->  lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging It has now bulletproof provision function. The code is a bit better looking. But my objective was to make it robust and reliable, not prettiness. I am running the tests for silo9 with that script 
[12:57] <Mirv> sil2100: ship it!
[12:57] <Mirv> :)
[12:58] <Mirv> sil2100: last parts just migrated
[13:03] <davmor2> sil2100, Mirv, ogra_: right what's happening now are we spinning up another image?
[13:04] <ogra_> davmor2, i was hoping that we have the new adbd in by now as well :/
[13:04] <ogra_> to get the images on par ... wrt smoketesting
[13:05] <ogra_> but seems that will still take a while
[13:05] <davmor2> yeah no brendand
[13:05] <sil2100> Did brendand EOD already?
[13:05] <davmor2> sil2100: yeap
[13:06] <sil2100> He didn't manage to +1 the silo..?
[13:07] <ogra_> sil2100, it took him hours to get the packages installed
[13:07] <ogra_> sil2100, he said he'd return to test if i understood the above right
[13:14] <bzoltan> Mirv:  for some reason the qtc plugin got blocked in the proposed pocket. looks like a qemu hickup -> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/247/consoleFull
[13:15] <sil2100> ogra_: do you know when he'll be back?
[13:15] <cjwatson> bzoltan: not a qemu hiccup, but maybe some other kind of hiccup
[13:15] <sil2100> jibel is waiting for the new image as well
[13:15] <ogra_> sil2100, well, i dont know more than the backlog has
[13:15] <jibel> bzoltan, "test dependencies are unsatisfiable" doesn't sound qemu
[13:15] <ogra_> sil2100, so lets build one
[13:15] <sil2100> And I guess for dogfooding #33 might be a good idea
[13:16] <jibel> bzoltan, I'll have a look
[13:16] <sil2100> Let me check if we don't need anything else
[13:16] <bzoltan> jibel: Ahh.. I should have read the previous line too. I wonder what that could be. Thanks for your help.
[13:17]  * bzoltan is ashamed... and should learn English 
[13:17] <cjwatson> it's a genuine problem, tracking
[13:17] <cjwatson> oh, it's because the dependency on ubuntu-emulator is only satisfiable on amd64 with multiarch
[13:17] <cjwatson> and the autopkgtest runner doesn't have multiarch enabled
[13:18] <cjwatson> not clear what the correct answer is
[13:18] <cjwatson> bzoltan: perhaps it would be sensible to demote ubuntu-emulator from Depends to Recommends?
[13:18] <cjwatson> the hard dependency will require some interesting work in proposed-migration too
[13:18] <cjwatson> (which is doable, but it's another roadblock)
[13:19] <bzoltan> cjwatson: hmm.. i was just asked to put it there :) I can move to Recommends
[13:19] <cjwatson> right, I know, I even drive-by-reviewed that and it didn't occur to me that this problem would arise
[13:20] <cjwatson> I think Recommends would still satisfy the request, since they are installed by default in most user situations
[13:21] <bzoltan> cjwatson: OK, I push the change and rebuild the silo3. Thanks.
[13:22] <cjwatson> cheers
[13:23] <Mirv> bzoltan: maybe this time we'll set the "Tested?" to "No" too before the new build is ready :)
[13:23] <cjwatson> (actually, re my comment above about requiring work in proposed-migration, it seems that I did that work a while back)
[13:24] <bzoltan> Mirv:  how true :D
[13:24] <Mirv> bzoltan: so, set it back to Yes then when it's ready
[13:24] <sil2100> hah ;)
[13:25] <asac> ogra_: so the custom tarball we should handle like the device tarball for rtm channels
[13:25] <asac> ogra_: gets produced by jenkins at location A
[13:25] <asac> and then after it passes testing gates LT copies it to locaiton B
[13:25] <asac> where the image server picks it up
[13:26] <asac> sil2100: ^
[13:26] <asac> thanks
[13:26] <asac> landing team helps organize testing gate with testplan etc. and qa sign off for rtm etc.
[13:27] <sil2100> asac: that makes sense, we would need to bring that up with cwayne
[13:27] <asac> sil2100: told him in barajas channel
[13:27] <sil2100> I thought it was simply discussed that it will be automatically done
[13:27] <asac> sil2100: can you check that we do that for device and for custom?
[13:27] <asac> just keep an eye on it
[13:27] <asac> sil2100: yeah thats a no go :)
[13:27] <asac> needs at least same confidence as the other landings
[13:29] <sil2100> asac: sure, let me get in contact with Julien about that as well so that we have someone from the US timezone allocated for this
[13:29] <sil2100> asac: so, is the automatic cronjob disabled now?
[13:29] <asac> sil2100: yeeah, but after the call in a few minutes
[13:29] <asac> sil2100: dunno
[13:29] <asac> we should disable for sure
[13:29] <asac> ogra_: ^
[13:29] <asac> anyway, call now :)
[13:29] <asac> sil2100: cu there in two
[13:29] <sil2100> asac: ;)
[13:30] <ogra_> asac, you want to do extra QA for custom ?
[13:30] <ogra_> right, for that you need to intercept between jenkins and coyping to B
[13:31] <asac> same same as device
[13:31] <asac> yes
[13:31] <asac> all the same is easiest
[13:32] <jibel> bzoltan, ubuntu-emulator is not installable on autopkgtest/amd64 VMs, probably because it needs i386 packages. Digging further.
[13:32] <jibel> bzoltan, and this dependency is new on latest qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu
[13:32] <cjwatson> jibel: see above, already handled :)
[13:34] <ogra_> asac, "easiest" ...
[13:34]  * ogra_ doesnt even know if we have a way to easily inject a new custom tarball for testing 
[13:34] <cwayne> lol
[13:34] <jibel> cjwatson, ah, thanks :) multiarch support in adt VMS remains.
[13:35] <cjwatson> I kind of feel Recommends is slightly more correct anyhow
[13:45]  * cwayne hasnt done this in awhile, to request a silo do i just add a row to the spreadsheet?
[13:45] <rsalveti> cwayne: yes
[13:45] <bzoltan> cjwatson: It is a borderline case ... because the  i386 click chroots have rather important role in the SDK, and when the developer select an i386 Kit for an ubuntu touch app then the only possible target is the emulator.
[13:46] <cjwatson> bzoltan: Right, but Recommends are installed by default in typical installations
[13:46] <cwayne> rsalveti: k thanks, wanted to make sure
[13:46] <bzoltan> cjwatson:  true
[14:07] <sil2100> ogra_: ok, let's kick a new image
[14:08] <sil2100> ogra_: no use waiting for brendand
[14:08] <ogra_> go for it
[14:08] <ogra_> yeah :/
[14:08] <sil2100> ogra_: is it possible now through the tracker?
[14:08] <ogra_> oh, rtm you want
[14:08] <ogra_> no, indeed
[14:08] <sil2100> ogra_: yeah :) *bows to ogra_*
[14:08] <ogra_> unless stgraber silently added it
[14:08] <sil2100> ogra_: can you do the honour..?
[14:09] <ogra_> triggered
[14:10] <sil2100> ogra_: thanks \o/
[14:24] <ogra_> asac, FYI my krillin screen is on since 10:00
[14:24] <ogra_> err
[14:24] <ogra_> 16:00
[14:24] <ogra_> where i got a calendar notification
[14:28] <asac> ogra_: ok so triggered by calendar notiication?
[14:29] <asac> davmor2: ^^
[14:29] <ogra_> asac, yeah, seems like
[15:02] <asac> sil2100: how far are we fromm a promotion?
[15:03] <sil2100> asac: we still need to wait a bit for that, the image of interest is building right now
[15:03] <sil2100> ogra_: btw. why didn't the bot notify of the image being built?
[15:04] <ogra_> sil2100, hmm, probably because it is offline
[15:04] <davmor2> that would do it :D
[15:04] <sil2100> My <tab> button seems to lie to me sometimes
[15:05] <sil2100> ogra_: right! Could you resurrect the poor lad/lass?
[15:05] <ogra_> already done
[15:05] <davmor2> sil2100: no it always says tab it's a sticker :P
[15:05] <ogra_> it will autostart in a few
[15:06] <sil2100> davmor2: anyway, once you see #33, please explore it ;)
[15:06] <sil2100> om26er: ping
[15:07] <davmor2> sil2100: yeap will do
[15:07] <sil2100> Thanks!
[15:07] <sil2100> davmor2: btw. so, did the unity8 landing improve the lock-up situation?
[15:10] <ogra_> sil2100, so i wonder if brendand will actually show up again today :/
[15:10] <ogra_> i would reall really like this landed before the weekend
[15:10]  * sil2100 sighs
[15:11] <sil2100> I would that as well
[15:11] <sil2100> *like
[15:11] <sil2100> ogra_: if not, we might need to get someone else signing it off in the meantime
[15:12] <ogra_> sil2100, it took brendan ~2h to even get the packages installed
[15:12] <ogra_> not sure if davmor2 (or someone else) would be any faster
[15:15] <sil2100> ogra_: ToyKeeper might be able to handle that
[15:15] <ogra_> k
[15:16] <sil2100> Ok, time to do a round of trainduty
[15:19] <om26er> sil2100, pong
[15:19] <asac> davmor2: how does the latest rtm image look like?
[15:20] <davmor2> asac: I'm waiting on image 33 to start testing it for promotion, I don't think it finished building yet
[15:20] <asac> davmor2: ok so you say that 33 might be promotable?
[15:20] <asac> davmor2: i assume we expect this to be the best image for a while?
[15:20] <asac> regardless of whether it makes promotion or not?
[15:21] <ogra_> dont talk about stuff that hasnt even built :)
[15:21] <asac> bah
[15:21] <asac> how bad was #32?
[15:22] <asac> sil2100: ?
[15:22] <asac> was #32 close to promotion?
[15:22] <sil2100> Well... not super bad I would say, but it still had some of the blockers we wanted to get rid of
[15:23] <davmor2> asac: so yes 33 has a bunch of blocker fixes so in theory if everything is good with it we can consider it for promotion
[15:23] <asac> nice one
[15:23] <asac> olli: ^^
[15:23] <asac> olli: guess lets wait what comes out and then decide
[15:23] <asac> (out of testing)
[15:24] <davmor2> asac: won't be till almost EOD for me 21:00-22:00 utc by the end of the test run.
[15:24] <ogra_> asac, for promotion we might need stgraber btw ... i'm not sure copy-package (the backend tool) works with empty target channels
[15:25] <ogra_> (i'll ask him about it when i come out of my evening meetings)
[15:27] <ogra_> ok, sounds like that is supposed to work fine
[15:29] <asac> ogra_: ok. maybe check that he is there up front :)
[15:30] <asac> davmor2: thanks
[15:30] <ogra_> i already asked in #ubuntu-release :)
[15:30] <asac> i think for our purposee we just need to know if 33 is the best image ever :)
[15:30] <ogra_> he will be around
[15:31] <ogra_> looks like the 33 rootfs is done already
[15:31] <davmor2> asac: Trusty 201 was the best image ever is it gold ;)
[15:31] <asac> lol
[15:32] <ogra_> lets just promote that then !!
[15:32] <davmor2> ogra_: haha
[15:32] <cyphermox_> awe: requesting silo for urfkill ^
[15:32] <asac> davmor2: trusty didnt have krillin though
[15:32] <ogra_> asac, details :P
[15:33] <davmor2> asac: you can't have great images and device support, you have to pick one or the other ;)
[15:33] <brendand> ogra_, your silo should have a decision before the landing meeting, testing shouldn't take that long
[15:33]  * ogra_ hugs brendand 
[15:33] <ogra_> dude ! i was anxious you wouldnt return
[15:33] <davmor2> brendand: hey dude welcome back
[15:34] <brendand> ogra_, why? did i say i was going into the wild where bears live?
[15:34] <ogra_> well, you said you would go on testing "when you return"
[15:34] <davmor2> brendand: no swamp and crocodile iirc
[15:34] <ogra_> how would i know if thats not next tuesday after your vacation ;)
[15:34] <brendand> ambuiguity ftw
[15:35] <imgbot> [15:35] <brendand> sic
[15:35] <imgbot> [15:35] <davmor2> \o/
[15:35] <sil2100> \o/
[15:35] <ogra_> asac, ^^^^^ have fun
[15:35] <sil2100> davmor2: go tear it apart!
[15:35] <bfiller> sil2100: silo 18 can be republish, MR's are approved now
[15:35] <ogra_> new mir, new unity and new wbbrowser
[15:35] <sil2100> Oh, brendand is back \o/
[15:35]  * brendand is feeling very loved
[15:35] <davmor2> sil2100: I can't no notification that there is a new image :P
[15:35] <ogra_> oh, and new settings app
[15:36]  * davmor2 awaits a ping
[15:36] <cwayne> davmor2: ping
[15:36] <ogra_> davmor2, ping
[15:36]  * davmor2 makes a stabbing list of everyone who said ping
[15:37] <cwayne> davmor2: ping
[15:37] <cwayne> might as well be on there twice
[15:37] <davmor2> cwayne: hahaha
[15:37] <camako> RTM silo 1 says "packages built"... The ppa page says "currently building" ??
[15:37] <cjwatson> davmor2: you need my annoying IRC answerphone message, clearly :)
[15:38] <camako> That is : info on
[15:38] <camako> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=alf
[15:38] <camako> is conflicting with info on
[15:38] <camako> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-001
[15:38] <davmor2> sil2100, ogra_: should I of had a notification that image 33 is ready yet?
[15:39] <imgbot> davmor2, ping
[15:39] <sil2100> davmor2: I think so?
[15:39] <sil2100> ogra_: ^ ?
[15:39] <ogra_> no idea, ask the push notification guys
[15:39] <ogra_> i usually have a notification in the mornings
[15:39] <ogra_> not sure how long it takes to propagate to you
[15:41] <davmor2> Chipaca: ^
[15:41] <Chipaca> davmor2: hello hello
[15:41] <davmor2> Chipaca: Where's my image ping
[15:41] <imgbot> davmor2, ping
[15:42] <Chipaca> davmor2: from when?
[15:42] <ogra_> 5 min ago
[15:42] <Chipaca> imgbot: don't be needy
[15:42] <davmor2> Chipaca: about 7 minutes ago
[15:42] <Chipaca> verterok: is the image cronjob working?
[15:42] <kgunn> sil2100: hey quick one...we're doing some landing training on our team and discussing rtm sync etc
[15:42] <verterok> Chipaca: should be, let me double check
[15:42] <asac> ogra_: awesome
[15:42] <kgunn> sil2100: this wiki seems a little out of date ?
[15:42] <kgunn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/RTMLandingApproaches
[15:43] <kgunn> or am i wrong
[15:43]  * asac pushes buttons to get the freshness
[15:43] <kgunn> ?
[15:43] <ogra_> kgunn, i heard the whole process was re-discussed 1h ao
[15:43] <ogra_> agoi
[15:43] <asac> not really
[15:43] <ogra_> bah
[15:43] <asac> we discussed piloting new optimizations
[15:43] <ogra_> this new kbd annoys the hell out of me
[15:43] <asac> with phonedations team
[15:43] <ogra_> oh
[15:43] <sil2100> kgunn: let me check
[15:43] <ogra_> i didnt know that was team specific
[15:44] <kgunn> ogra_: in my defense, my internet was _hating_ me during that meeting
[15:44] <asac> nothing was decided
[15:44] <kgunn> i dropped like 12 times
[15:44] <ogra_> ah,
[15:44] <asac> we agreed to pilot something that ricardo suggested to see how that goes
[15:44] <kgunn> damn internet
[15:44] <verterok> Chipaca: last run was 30min ago
[15:44] <asac> also since tools dont support that we need to bring that up as we go as part of the pilot
[15:44] <Chipaca> verterok: runs once every how much?
[15:44] <asac> so in general all stays the same for now
[15:44] <sil2100> kgunn: anyway, currently it is more or less up to date, with the silo-synchronization being the default way of landing
[15:45] <sil2100> kgunn: I will modify it a bit to include the few new additions, but more or less the workflow stays the same
[15:45] <asac> maybe we can schedule a weekly "doc refresh" effort
[15:45] <asac> wherew we go through what we have and do the incremental tweaks that have happened?
[15:45] <kgunn> sil2100: right, i think i was jumping gun on dual sync
[15:45] <asac> guess should be like 30 minutes at most once a week if we do that every week
[15:45] <asac> just a suggestion
[15:46] <verterok> Chipaca: 5 * * * * :)
[15:46] <sil2100> kgunn: well, dual sync might be reconsidered now if we switch to the new approach, but for now we left it alone (since it wouldn't do all that we wanted)
[15:46] <Chipaca> davmor2: ogra_: so you guys need to chillax a bit
[15:47] <Chipaca> davmor2: ogra_: :)
[15:47] <ogra_> Chipaca, what ? 5 min ?!? geez ... so delay ...
[15:47] <Chipaca> ogra_: no, no
[15:47] <Chipaca> ogra_: not */5. 5.
[15:47] <davmor2> 5 hours
[15:47] <Chipaca> nope
[15:47] <Chipaca> dude
[15:47] <Chipaca> man 5 crontab
[15:47] <ogra_> ugh
[15:47] <Chipaca> right now. go. read. i'll wait.
[15:48] <ogra_> could we make that a bit more frequent ?
[15:48] <Chipaca> verterok: are you sure we didn't want */5? :)
[15:48] <Chipaca> ogra_: AFAIR it wasn't that trivial nor fast, so maybe we can't
[15:49] <ogra_> ah
[15:49] <asac> so good news is that latest image boots :)
[15:49] <asac> and i have no bad news yet
[15:49] <asac> hehe
[15:49] <verterok> Chipaca: was trying to avoid hammering the system-image server, but can increase it a bit
[15:49] <Chipaca> verterok: maybe run it with run-one just in case it's too slow?
[15:50] <verterok> Chipaca: and run it */5 ?
[15:50] <ogra_> verterok, do you run anything *on* the server ?
[15:50] <Chipaca> yah
[15:50] <ogra_> it should really cope with a fe million requests if you only poll something
[15:51] <verterok> ogra_: the script pull the indexes and build the push notifications
[15:51] <ogra_> verterok, an that runs on the server ?
[15:52] <verterok> ogra_: yes (not the system-image server)
[15:52] <ogra_> thats what i mean
[15:53] <Chipaca> it's just static files, right?
[15:53] <ogra_> if you only query html you can do as many requests as you want, it wont harm the server
[15:53] <Chipaca> we couldn't "hammer" that with a python script on a single computer even if we tried :)
[15:53] <ogra_> (or s/html/json/)
[15:53] <verterok> ok, let's change it then
[15:54] <Chipaca> i mean, i lost track ages ago, but a 200mhz machine could serve 1M static pages/s
[15:54] <brendand> ogra_, i should be able to use adb if the phone is locked?
[15:54] <ogra_> brendand, yes, that bit isnt existing yet
[15:55] <davmor2> Chipaca: it's a shame there is no push service from the image server to the push server :)
[15:55] <ogra_> next iteration :)
[15:55] <Chipaca> davmor2: I know.
[15:55] <verterok> Chipaca: yes, it should. will ask webops to do their juju magic and update the cronjob config
[15:55] <ogra_> brendand, since we have no concept how to work around it for testing etc
[15:55] <Chipaca> verterok: you probably want some kind of lockfile (or run-one) tho, for your own sanity
[15:56] <verterok> Chipaca: that implies a charm upgrade which will not be possible on a Friday
[15:57] <verterok> Chipaca: so, let the bargain begin
[15:57]  * Chipaca washes his hands
[15:57] <verterok> Chipaca: */20 ?
[15:57] <Chipaca> ogra_: davmor2: ^?
[15:57] <dbarth> hi trainguards, line 51 is ready for a silo now
[15:58] <ogra_> 20mins is fine yeah
[15:58] <Chipaca> verterok: and update the charm sometime in the future?
[15:58] <verterok> ogra_, davmor2: we can work on the */5 + run-once next week
[15:58] <verterok> Chipaca: ^ yes
[16:01] <sil2100> dbarth: hey! Let me take a look if we have a free one after the meeting
[16:02] <verterok> ogra_, davmor2, Chipaca: just got remember about a issue with increasing the interval to 5min. we might get partial data due to rsync delays
[16:02] <asac> lool: tvoss: i assume we dont expect 33 to have working GPS?
[16:02] <tvoss> asac, gps yes, agps -> no
[16:02] <asac> haha
[16:03] <asac> tvoss: ok. the landing is stuck somewhere or still in the baking?
[16:03] <davmor2> verterok: hourly is fine for me I just wanted to know when, as it happens I didin't have enough time to wait
[16:03] <lool> asac: waiting for NM to get out of proposed
[16:03] <tvoss> lool, why do we need nm?
[16:03] <lool> asac: pinged cyphermox minutes ago, and he said it's in progress, working locally
[16:03] <lool> tvoss: I thought this is what the updated location-service silo was waiting for
[16:03] <verterok> davmor2: k, I think we can do that. will check the rsync stuff.
[16:03] <tvoss> lool, nope
[16:04] <asac> a kingdom for coordination :P
[16:04] <asac> lol
[16:04] <lool> tvoss: ah so we can just land our stuff now?
[16:04] <tvoss> lool, it's only silo 2 that needs landing
[16:04] <tvoss> lool, sure, the nm request came in with high urgency in the morning, that's why I put it in a silo :9
[16:04] <tvoss> lool, see pm
[16:04] <asac> ok.. well. guess this wont make todays cut then. lets hope monday i get rtm proposed update with this stuff working
[16:05] <asac> that would make my week :)
[16:18] <dbarth> sil2100: thanks sir; let me know
[16:21] <popey> bah, browser locked up
[16:23]  * popey sees a reboot in his future
[16:25] <lool> trainguards, would you be so kind to flush / kill row 9 (rtm silo 6): it was mandel's original location-service landing
[16:25] <lool> it's superseded
[16:25] <sil2100> lool: o/ Doing that once our meeting is over
[16:26] <lool> thanks
[16:35] <popey> wtf, walked away, browser exploded
[16:37] <ogra_> popey, rtm ?
[16:38] <elopio> sil2100: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1368855
[16:38] <elopio> that's what's happening. I don't know what's causing it.
[16:39] <popey> ogra_: laptop
[16:39] <ogra_> popey, pfft
[16:39] <popey> indeed, we don't care about that :þ
[16:40] <ogra_> thats the channel next door ... with all the french people in it
[16:41] <sil2100> dbarth: which line was that?
[16:41] <sil2100> Since 51 doesn't seem to be the right one ;)
[16:43] <brendand> ogra_, signing you off
[16:43] <brendand> ogra_, any fallout is now officially *your* fault
[16:43] <sil2100> hah ;)
[16:44] <brendand> ogra_, this time i mean it :)
[16:45]  * ogra_ hugs brendand 
[16:46] <bzoltan> brendand:  we got that dialer ugliness. The UITK will be fixed on Monday, because it is timp's code and he knows the best the solution. But it is possible to prevent the problem in the app.Theris is a possibility for late page-activation, that's what it causes the issue in Dialer: somehow the content gets too early not when the page gets active.  Renato will fix the app to fetch the page content only when it gets active.
[16:46] <brendand> bzoltan, ok hopefully we can get it landed on monday then
[16:47] <bzoltan> brendand:  Monday is sure
[16:49] <ogra_> sil2100, will we one day get to a point where i dont always have to click twice in jenkins ?
[16:54] <dbarth> sil2100: uh, that's 43 now
[16:56] <sil2100> ogra_: heh, happens to me too, not sure what's up with SSO loosing login information in jenkins
[16:56] <sil2100> dbarth: ACK ;)
[16:56] <bzoltan> brendand: ToyKeeper: ogra_: have you experienced that the ` phablet-click-test-setup --distribution=ubuntu-rtm --series=14.09` fails to download the click tests? (mako #34)
[16:58] <sil2100> dbarth: silo assigned o/
[16:58] <dbarth> ty
[17:06] <ogra_> wow, i even got proper mails for them ... when did that get fixed
[17:23] <ogra_> sil2100, firing off another rtm build
[17:23] <ogra_> (if you dont mind)
[17:25] <ogra_> plars, ^^
[17:25] <ogra_> (triggered)
[17:30] <imgbot> [17:30] <popey> what crack is in this one?
[17:30] <ogra_> developer mode
[17:30] <ogra_> finally in sync with utopic
[17:32] <plars> ack
[17:32] <popey> nice
[17:41] <sil2100> \o/
[17:41] <sil2100> ogra_: thanks!
[17:41] <ogra_> :)
[17:43] <davmor2> sil2100, asac: might of found an issue with flight mode, I'll dig into after though.
[17:51] <cwayne> ogra_: so you ready for the flood of emails/pings of WHAT HAPPENED TO MY ADB IT DOESNT WORK ANYMORE then? :P
[17:53] <cwayne> sil2100: can i get a silo for line 53 by any chance? :)
[17:56] <ogra_> cwayne, i had that flood the last week already in utopic :)
[17:56] <sil2100> cwayne: ah, robru is not around today - ok, let me just finish up something and I'll move onto assigning a silo for you :)
[17:56] <ogra_> i'm at least wekkk trained
[17:56] <ogra_> *well
[17:59] <cwayne> ogra_: ha, true :)
[18:01] <tedg> sil2100, Can I please get a silo for line 55?
[18:12] <alecu> tedg: try pinging trainguards, there might be somebody else on duty
[18:13] <tedg> trainguards, Can I please get a silo for line 55?
[18:31] <sil2100> tedg: please wait one moment :)
[18:37] <cwayne> sil2100: thank you :)
[18:37] <sil2100> cwayne, tedg: silos assigned o/
[18:44] <tedg> sil2100, Thanks!
[18:46] <charles> tedg, fixing
[18:48] <charles> tedg, fixed
[18:55] <imgbot> [18:55] <imgbot> [19:04] <cwayne> do i have to build if i have sync:12, or will it eventually do it automagically?
[19:08] <sil2100> cwayne: once you press the build button on the sync silo it will try fetching packages from the source silo and rebuilding them
[19:08] <cwayne> sil2100: i tried that and it complained about no MP;s ^
[19:12] <sil2100> cwayne: did you build the ubuntu silo already?
[19:12] <sil2100> Ah you did
[19:12] <sil2100> cwayne: then do a whole build first
[19:12] <sil2100> cwayne: CI Train might be a bit confused here
[19:12] <sil2100> cwayne: just press build with no build parameters
[19:16] <davmor2> sil2100, asac: I am happy to report that it looks like the issue with with unity8 locking up seems to be partially repaired.  I can no longer trigger it by accident.  I have found 3 new issues but I would say that they are only user visible.  I'm going to dig into the flight mode issue I hit earlier and see if is reproducible
[19:17] <sil2100> :D
[19:17] <sil2100> : D
[19:17] <davmor2> sil2100: the flight mode issue would be a blocker if it is reproducible
[19:19] <ogra_> davmor2, sil2100, all webapps are broken in #34
[19:19] <sil2100> davmor2: ^ ?
[19:19] <davmor2> sil2100: I'm on 33
[19:20] <sil2100> Ah, right, confused ;)
[19:20] <sil2100> wth
[19:20] <ogra_> sil2100, davmor2, open any webapp from the store and tap i.e. an article ... everything opens in the browser
[19:20] <ogra_> instead of inside the app
[19:20] <davmor2> sil2100: they work fine here, if they are broken on 34 the only thing that landed was ogra's stuff so I'd blame ogra ;)
[19:20] <sil2100> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/34.changes <- huh
[19:20] <charles> tedg, will test RSN
[19:20] <sil2100> Yeah
[19:21] <ogra_> sil2100, no idea if that was the case on 33, i skipped 33
[19:24] <ogra_> hmm, i found two installed ones where it works fine ... and it works also fine in the BBC app
[19:24] <ogra_> but all apps i generally use show that behavior after the upgrade
[19:25] <ogra_> dbarth_, did the container format change in any way ? all links in my apps seem to be treated as external ones
[19:26] <davmor2> ogra_: here on 33, ebay, facebook, twitter, gmail and amazon all open in container not browser
[19:26] <ogra_> davmor2, i'm talking about apps from the store
[19:26] <ogra_> try n-tv.de, heise.de, golem.de
[19:27] <ogra_> they all worked before the upgrade
[19:27] <ogra_> davmor2, or to try a non german one, imdb
[19:28] <davmor2> ogra_: google + is fine
[19:28] <ogra_> yes
[19:29] <ogra_> the handfull preinstalled ones seems fine
[19:29] <ogra_> but for me not a single of my daily apps is usable
[19:29] <davmor2> ogra_: G+ not gmail
[19:29] <ogra_> yes, G+ is fine
[19:29] <davmor2> ogra_: yes that is a from the store app
[19:29] <ogra_> i know
[19:29] <ogra_> still
[19:30] <ogra_> try imdb
[19:30] <ogra_> it worked before the upgrade
[19:30] <ogra_> most of my apps behave like that
[19:30] <davmor2> sil2100: see said it was ogra_ 's fault
[19:31] <sil2100> Shame on you ogra_
[19:31] <sil2100> Anyway, I'd like someone else to confirm
[19:31] <ogra_> *sniff*
[19:31] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: hey, are you around?
[19:31] <ToyKeeper> sil2100: Yes, just about to have a meeting though.  What's up?
[19:32] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: once you finish your meeting, could you maybe spare a cycle, install #34 on krillin and check if you can reproduce the webapp issues that ogra_ is seeing? ^
[19:33] <ToyKeeper> D'oh, I apparently flashed too soon and got 33.
[19:33] <ToyKeeper> sil2100: Yes, I think I can do that.
[19:33] <sil2100> davmor2: anyway, I remove the location-service trust-prompt bug from the blockers, as this specific issue is fixed
[19:33] <davmor2> ogra_: imdb on 33 http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/imdb.png
[19:33] <sil2100> davmor2: if location still has issues then it would be awesome if you could fill in/find a new bug ;)
[19:33] <ogra_> davmor2, and if you tap on anything ?
[19:33] <ogra_> it doesnt open the browser for you ?
[19:34] <ogra_> ToyKeeper, no, try on 33
[19:34] <ToyKeeper> D'oh, already flashing 34.
[19:34] <ogra_> we got a new browser there
[19:34] <davmor2> ogra_: oh wow yes but not on g+
[19:35] <ogra_> davmor2, right ... but in many other webapps
[19:35] <ogra_> i think the webapp-container pattern matching changed or some such
[19:35] <ogra_> or got more strict or some such
[19:35] <davmor2> dbarth_: ^
[19:36] <ogra_> davmor2, but good that you could confirm on 33 ... so i dont have to find out how adb can break webapps :)
[19:37] <davmor2> ogra_: I still blame you :P
[19:37] <ogra_> heh
[19:38] <davmor2> ogra_: so popey's bbc news app works so I wonder if it just the ones that your script built?  Maybe they need the toolkit updating maybe?
[19:39] <ogra_> davmor2, i doubt that, we didnt have any framework change
[19:41] <ToyKeeper> Okay...  what still needs testing?
[19:41] <davmor2> ogra_: your imdb does it default to m.?  if not that might be the issue
[19:41] <ogra_> yes, it defaults to m.
[19:41] <davmor2> ogra_: one for the web apps team then
[19:42] <ogra_> right
[19:42] <ogra_> makes the phone unusable for me on the weekend :(
[19:42] <davmor2> I still blame you though ogra_ don't think you get off that lightly ;)
[19:42] <ogra_> ToyKeeper, i thik davmor2 confirmed the issue
[19:42] <ogra_> davmor2, well, i'll play around with the container options on the WE then
[19:43] <davmor2> ToyKeeper: install imdb, open the app and click on anything does it open in the container or in the browser
[19:47] <davmor2> Right I'm off catch you Monday guys
[19:48] <brendand> robru, sil2100 - so it might be we need to promote the Trello board a bit more
[19:48] <brendand> robru, sil2100 - can you manage to add a link to the dashboard and/or spreadsheet?
[19:50] <sil2100> brendand: I think I added it to the spreadsheet once, let me check
[19:50] <sil2100> brendand: anyway, what's up?
[19:55] <brendand> sil2100, at least awe_ didn't know about it, so probably others don't too. and it's only fair that transparency works both ways
[20:26] <jdstrand> sil2100: hey, so I have a bug fix upload that I direct uploaded to utopic-proposed (ie, no silo). I'd like to have a silo for rtm (so I can do a source copy for rtm binaries)
[20:26] <jdstrand> sil2100: is there some special stuff I need to do in the spreadsheet to indicate that?
[20:27] <jdstrand> sil2100: (note, all I need is an rtm silo assignment, I don't think I need help getting packages in the ppa)
[20:27] <jdstrand> actually, I might. I'll wait for your response
[20:28] <ogra_> jdstrand, i usually do the same process ... once you haveteh PPA assigned just dput to it
[20:28] <jdstrand> right
[20:28] <ogra_> rtm needs some tweak in dput.cf
[20:29] <jdstrand> I think I did that
[20:29]  * jdstrand checks
[20:29] <jdstrand> yes
[20:30] <jdstrand> mostly I'm wondering how to notate in the spreadsheet
[20:30] <ogra_> right, then its just like any landing before
[20:30] <jdstrand> if there is something special I should do
[20:30] <ogra_> noe that you want it for rtm
[20:30] <ogra_> *note
[20:30] <jdstrand> ok
[20:30] <ogra_> there is a column for that
[20:31] <sil2100> jdstrand: hey! One moment
[20:32] <sil2100> jdstrand: ok, I think all you need then is an RTM silo then
[20:32] <sil2100> jdstrand: what package was that? I need to list it there
[20:33] <jdstrand> sil2100: I'm updating line row 60. just rtm, just apparmor
[20:34] <jdstrand> sil2100: ok, I think row 60 is all that is needed?
[20:36] <sil2100> jdstrand: let me assign that in 5 minutes
[20:36] <tedg> sil2100, Can we please get an rtm silo for line 56?
[20:37] <jdstrand> sil2100: that's fine, it isn't critical. I am just preparing this so I am ready to coordinate with cwayne on some /custom stuff he wants to test
[20:38] <sil2100> tedg: we assigned one for you already
[20:38] <tedg> sil2100, Ah, cool!
[20:38] <sil2100> tedg: you can build safely now :)
[20:40] <sil2100> Ok guys, I need to EOD now
[20:40] <sil2100> See you on Monday!
[20:56] <tedg> trainguards, let's just deallocate silo6
[20:56] <tedg> I've spent almost a day on that, and it's not important enough to spend that much time, much less more.
[21:03] <jdstrand> ogra_: can you show me a snippet of your .dput.cf?
[21:04] <jdstrand> I had something for direct uploads. I'm close for silo uploads, but figure you have something snazzy I can steal
[21:05] <ogra_> jdstrand, i dynamically changed the ppa section up to now
[21:05] <ogra_> #incoming               = ~%(ppa)s/ubuntu
[21:05] <ogra_> incoming                = ~%(ppa)s
[21:05] <ogra_> that way
[21:05] <ogra_> and then upload like: dput ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu-rtm/landing-XXX blah.changes
[21:05] <cjwatson> jdstrand: due to William Grant, this is a general stanza that lets you upload to anything: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8329915/
[21:06] <cjwatson> then you can do lp:ubuntu, lp:ubuntu-rtm, lp:~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/landing-XXX, etc.
[21:06] <cjwatson> the ppa stanza is fixed in trusty-proposed / utopic
[21:06] <jdstrand> ah, you showed me that before, but I didn't grok it
[21:06] <jdstrand> awesome, thanks guys :)
[21:07] <cjwatson> let me just quickly verify dput-ng in trusty-proposed so that I can release that SRU ...
[21:07]  * jdstrand is on utopic of course :)
[21:08] <cjwatson> oh, well, the ppa section should work unchanged for you then
[21:08] <jdstrand> cool, thanks again :)
[21:54]  * cjwatson releases that dput and dput-ng to trusty-updates