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ubottuIn #ubuntu, mystogan said: ubottu,cfhowlett which is the best for programming and for students?04:39
finrodWhy am I still banned from the #ubuntu channel?06:23
ikoniabecause you never had your ban resolved06:23
ikoniaand you're trying to get around the ban06:23
ikoniafinrod: just to be %100 clear for you, using a different nickname/ip/freenode account does not make you "unbanned".06:25
ikoniayou should not be using any of the ubuntu channels you are banned in using your previous identity06:26
ikoniado you understand/have I explained the clearly ?06:26
finrodyes06:27
finrodDo I need to write another letter to council?  I would probably be my sixth letter in the last two months06:27
ikoniafantastic,06:27
ikoniaI'm glad you understand.06:27
ikoniaplease /part the channel now06:27
ikonia@mark #ubuntu finrod this is SamwiseGamgee evading bans, he has used the nick finrod with his SamwiseGamgee account and also registered the account finrod. an account ban on finrod has been put in place.06:29
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rwwmeanwhile in #freenode, 06:53:13 < finrod> How do I get a list of the operators in the #ubuntu-ops channel?06:54
ikoniahe's been told how around 5 - 6 times, it's all for show07:10
finrodI just sent another email to council.  This is the fifth email I have sent to IRC-council, since ikonia began harassing me on August 1207:34
finrodsorry, did that work?  My message appeared before the intro07:37
Tm_Tyes it did work07:40
Tm_Tfinrod: I don't see ikonia harrassing you though07:40
finrodYou want me to provide evidence of ikonia's behaviour with my chatzilla logs and email that to the council?07:42
finrodBy the way, am I now banned from the #kubuntu channel as of today?07:44
popeyfinrod: i think you need to take this up with the irc council. I don't think anyone here is going to deal with the issue given your outstanding unresolved ban.07:52
Tm_Tpopey: if I may say few comments in here in the context before continuing in the emails07:53
Tm_Tfinrod: the channels in question are logged07:53
finrodI believe the council has not responded to the last two emails I sent.  But they may have gone into my junk folder07:54
Tm_Tfinrod: the bans that has been put in place now that are for you trying to evade older bans are valid and not debatable until the original bans are resolved07:54
Tm_Tfinrod: I will most likely try send you a response this weekend where I try take into account the history we have with you07:55
Tm_Tfinrod: if you please could try respect our channel rules before that?07:56
finrodI believe I have been very patient, given the extent of the harassment07:57
finrodthe last four emails I sent were 19 August 8:45 am, then 19 August 11:36 am, then 22 August 10:20 am, then today at 2:30 am central standard time07:59
finrodI wrote those letters in order to get council to review my status with respect to the #ubuntu and #xubuntu channels, and to get ikonia to stop harassing me08:03
finrodGiven that the council's last to responses to my emails, assuming they did respond, may have been deleted by my junk folder, could you forward council's responses to the last two emails before today, so I can read them?08:06
finrodI don't mean to be too importunate, but I am hopeful that the council can lift the bans, so I can continue using those channels for tech support08:09
Tm_Tfinrod: I have to make one thing clear: you cannot continue using our support channels until the bans are lifted08:13
Tm_Tplease respect that08:14
finrodWhich channels are you referring to?08:14
Tm_Tthe ones you are banned from08:14
finrodI was banned from #ubuntu and #xubuntu, but I don't know if I am now banned from #kubuntu08:14
Tm_Tyou are currently there too08:15
finrodis there a way to determine if you are temporarily kicked or permanently banned from a channel?08:15
Tm_Tfinrod: in your case it's easy: at the moment you are banned, please don't try enter the channels until we tell you are unbanned08:16
finrodI am permanently banned from three channels, including #kubuntu?08:17
Tm_Tuntil we have sorted your bans with you, yes08:17
finrodOk, thanks for clarifying, Tm_T08:19
finrodIt appears that any channel I enter where ikonia is located, I will get banned from, regardless of what I say08:20
k1l_finrod: that could be the time now, where you should think about if it is the operators fault (since it was not only ikonia who kicked you) or if that depends on your behaviour. if IRC doesnt suit your style of communication ubuntu offers a lot of other support ressources like: ubuntuforums, askubuntu.com08:24
finrodthe ubuntuforums are good, but I still have account problems with them08:25
k1l_at least that should enable you to get technical support while the bans are being sorted and not make you evade the bans in place and just get you in more trouble, as it is now.08:25
finrodI changed my nick in order to avoid ikonia08:26
ikoniaI think there is nothing more to discuss here - write your letter to the council again and let them resolve it08:26
ikoniafinrod: knows exactly what is going on, and this is a previous repeat of the past 4 - 5 issues, so I suggest just stop repeating the same discussion and let him deal with the council08:27
finrodthe last letter to council was sent an hour ago.  I will check for their response during the weekend08:28
finrodThanks for the information, k1l08:28
finrodThanks for your patience, Tm_T08:29
Tm_Tfor the record this is not only "ikonia is harrassing me" because AFAIK there were other ops involved too09:28
ikoniafor the record this has nothing to do with me09:29
ikoniafor the record this guy is banned from many non-ubuntu channels,09:29
Tm_Twell, that09:29
Tm_TI suppose you're just too cute to be ignored (;09:29
ikoniathe reason for this is, because he's either a.) not able to grasp how to use irc b.) he's causing a problem on purpose - which based on the fact that he appears to be "lars" from previous trollings I'd guess "b"09:29
bazhangit's lars09:30
bazhanghe just asks forever, or until banned09:30
ikoniaexactly09:31
ikoniaso I see no reason to continue to do this fantasy dance09:31
bazhanghe admitted to being lars in PM a month or so ago09:31
ubottuIn #xubuntu, borw3 said: ubottu: Please, is blackbox also from ubuntu?15:58
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !e =~ s/development //17:47
rwwoh for god's sake17:47
rww@login17:47
ubottuError: You are not identified17:47
rwwno ur face is not identified17:47
rwwtsimpson: your bot's being lies again17:48
tsimpson@identifymsg17:53
ubottuThe operation succeeded.17:53
tsimpsonrww: try again17:53
rww@login18:01
ubottuThe operation succeeded.18:01
rww!-e18:01
ubottue aliases: enlightenment, e17 - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 14:00:18 - last edited by Flannel on 2014-09-12 17:57:4718:01
rww!e =~ s/development //18:01
ubottuNothing changed there18:01
rww!e18:01
ubottuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current version.18:01
rwwk.18:01
Flannelrww: I did it already.18:01
rwwo18:01
Flannelrww: (see -ot)18:01
Flannelrww: she likes me more than you.18:02
rwwFlannel: probably because your hostname list is up to date18:02
FlannelThis could be.  If you remember your password (hahahahahaha) you can update your hostname yourself!18:02
FlannelYou just need to say hostname like six times, with four different decorations, in a query ;)18:03
rwwisn't it just @hostmask add *!*@ubuntu/member/rww18:04
Flannelmaybe, but you can also do hostmask add [hostmask] or something, to have her automagically grab your current hostmask.18:04
Unit193rww: Pretty much.18:14
Unit193@hostmask18:14
ubottuUnit193!ukikie@ubuntu/member/unit19318:14
Unit193Flannel: Gets a little specific.18:14
FlannelUnit193: yeah, plus it's wrong.  That would never match rww!18:16
* genii ponders "<Mutaz> But I have a bun in my Ubuntu"19:26
Flannelgenii: floppy drives are cracker holders, so maybe he's got a HDD hotswap bay that he's stuck a dinner roll in or something.19:38
geniiHeh!19:38
hotmedalI'm banned on #ubuntu21:38
hotmedalprobably because of some network problems I had before21:39
hotmedaljoin/part messages might have spammed the channel21:39
* rww takes a look21:40
rww@btlogin21:40
rwwhotmedal: Your IP range is banned because of abuse by someone. The op who set the ban (k1l) isn't around right now. I'll ask him about it when I see him.21:42
rwwk1l_: when you get back, hotmedal was asking about ban 5690621:43
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hotmedalI was told once that I won't be affected by IP range bans if I had a freenode Nick :/21:51
elkywho told you that?22:05
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IntelAthlonwhat did i do?22:56
hotmedalI'm still banned. And going offline. Hope someone fixes it soon. Later.23:25
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