[06:23] <finrod> Why am I still banned from the #ubuntu channel?
[06:23] <ikonia> because you never had your ban resolved
[06:23] <ikonia> and you're trying to get around the ban
[06:25] <ikonia> finrod: just to be %100 clear for you, using a different nickname/ip/freenode account does not make you "unbanned".
[06:26] <ikonia> you should not be using any of the ubuntu channels you are banned in using your previous identity
[06:26] <ikonia> do you understand/have I explained the clearly ?
[06:27] <finrod> yes
[06:27] <finrod> Do I need to write another letter to council?  I would probably be my sixth letter in the last two months
[06:27] <ikonia> fantastic,
[06:27] <ikonia> I'm glad you understand.
[06:27] <ikonia> please /part the channel now
[06:29] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu finrod this is SamwiseGamgee evading bans, he has used the nick finrod with his SamwiseGamgee account and also registered the account finrod. an account ban on finrod has been put in place.
[06:54] <rww> meanwhile in #freenode, 06:53:13 < finrod> How do I get a list of the operators in the #ubuntu-ops channel?
[07:10] <ikonia> he's been told how around 5 - 6 times, it's all for show
[07:34] <finrod> I just sent another email to council.  This is the fifth email I have sent to IRC-council, since ikonia began harassing me on August 12
[07:37] <finrod> sorry, did that work?  My message appeared before the intro
[07:40] <Tm_T> yes it did work
[07:40] <Tm_T> finrod: I don't see ikonia harrassing you though
[07:42] <finrod> You want me to provide evidence of ikonia's behaviour with my chatzilla logs and email that to the council?
[07:44] <finrod> By the way, am I now banned from the #kubuntu channel as of today?
[07:52] <popey> finrod: i think you need to take this up with the irc council. I don't think anyone here is going to deal with the issue given your outstanding unresolved ban.
[07:53] <Tm_T> popey: if I may say few comments in here in the context before continuing in the emails
[07:53] <Tm_T> finrod: the channels in question are logged
[07:54] <finrod> I believe the council has not responded to the last two emails I sent.  But they may have gone into my junk folder
[07:54] <Tm_T> finrod: the bans that has been put in place now that are for you trying to evade older bans are valid and not debatable until the original bans are resolved
[07:55] <Tm_T> finrod: I will most likely try send you a response this weekend where I try take into account the history we have with you
[07:56] <Tm_T> finrod: if you please could try respect our channel rules before that?
[07:57] <finrod> I believe I have been very patient, given the extent of the harassment
[07:59] <finrod> the last four emails I sent were 19 August 8:45 am, then 19 August 11:36 am, then 22 August 10:20 am, then today at 2:30 am central standard time
[08:03] <finrod> I wrote those letters in order to get council to review my status with respect to the #ubuntu and #xubuntu channels, and to get ikonia to stop harassing me
[08:06] <finrod> Given that the council's last to responses to my emails, assuming they did respond, may have been deleted by my junk folder, could you forward council's responses to the last two emails before today, so I can read them?
[08:09] <finrod> I don't mean to be too importunate, but I am hopeful that the council can lift the bans, so I can continue using those channels for tech support
[08:13] <Tm_T> finrod: I have to make one thing clear: you cannot continue using our support channels until the bans are lifted
[08:14] <Tm_T> please respect that
[08:14] <finrod> Which channels are you referring to?
[08:14] <Tm_T> the ones you are banned from
[08:14] <finrod> I was banned from #ubuntu and #xubuntu, but I don't know if I am now banned from #kubuntu
[08:15] <Tm_T> you are currently there too
[08:15] <finrod> is there a way to determine if you are temporarily kicked or permanently banned from a channel?
[08:16] <Tm_T> finrod: in your case it's easy: at the moment you are banned, please don't try enter the channels until we tell you are unbanned
[08:17] <finrod> I am permanently banned from three channels, including #kubuntu?
[08:17] <Tm_T> until we have sorted your bans with you, yes
[08:19] <finrod> Ok, thanks for clarifying, Tm_T
[08:20] <finrod> It appears that any channel I enter where ikonia is located, I will get banned from, regardless of what I say
[08:24] <k1l_> finrod: that could be the time now, where you should think about if it is the operators fault (since it was not only ikonia who kicked you) or if that depends on your behaviour. if IRC doesnt suit your style of communication ubuntu offers a lot of other support ressources like: ubuntuforums, askubuntu.com
[08:25] <finrod> the ubuntuforums are good, but I still have account problems with them
[08:25] <k1l_> at least that should enable you to get technical support while the bans are being sorted and not make you evade the bans in place and just get you in more trouble, as it is now.
[08:26] <finrod> I changed my nick in order to avoid ikonia
[08:26] <ikonia> I think there is nothing more to discuss here - write your letter to the council again and let them resolve it
[08:27] <ikonia> finrod: knows exactly what is going on, and this is a previous repeat of the past 4 - 5 issues, so I suggest just stop repeating the same discussion and let him deal with the council
[08:28] <finrod> the last letter to council was sent an hour ago.  I will check for their response during the weekend
[08:28] <finrod> Thanks for the information, k1l
[08:29] <finrod> Thanks for your patience, Tm_T
[09:28] <Tm_T> for the record this is not only "ikonia is harrassing me" because AFAIK there were other ops involved too
[09:29] <ikonia> for the record this has nothing to do with me
[09:29] <ikonia> for the record this guy is banned from many non-ubuntu channels,
[09:29] <Tm_T> well, that
[09:29] <Tm_T> I suppose you're just too cute to be ignored (;
[09:29] <ikonia> the reason for this is, because he's either a.) not able to grasp how to use irc b.) he's causing a problem on purpose - which based on the fact that he appears to be "lars" from previous trollings I'd guess "b"
[09:30] <bazhang> it's lars
[09:30] <bazhang> he just asks forever, or until banned
[09:31] <ikonia> exactly
[09:31] <ikonia> so I see no reason to continue to do this fantasy dance
[09:31] <bazhang> he admitted to being lars in PM a month or so ago
[17:47] <rww> oh for god's sake
[17:47] <rww> @login
[17:47] <rww> no ur face is not identified
[17:48] <rww> tsimpson: your bot's being lies again
[17:53] <tsimpson> @identifymsg
[17:53] <tsimpson> rww: try again
[18:01] <rww> @login
[18:01] <rww> !-e
[18:01] <rww> !e =~ s/development //
[18:01] <rww> !e
[18:01] <rww> k.
[18:01] <Flannel> rww: I did it already.
[18:01] <rww> o
[18:01] <Flannel> rww: (see -ot)
[18:02] <Flannel> rww: she likes me more than you.
[18:02] <rww> Flannel: probably because your hostname list is up to date
[18:02] <Flannel> This could be.  If you remember your password (hahahahahaha) you can update your hostname yourself!
[18:03] <Flannel> You just need to say hostname like six times, with four different decorations, in a query ;)
[18:04] <rww> isn't it just @hostmask add *!*@ubuntu/member/rww
[18:04] <Flannel> maybe, but you can also do hostmask add [hostmask] or something, to have her automagically grab your current hostmask.
[18:14] <Unit193> rww: Pretty much.
[18:14] <Unit193> @hostmask
[18:14] <Unit193> Flannel: Gets a little specific.
[18:16] <Flannel> Unit193: yeah, plus it's wrong.  That would never match rww!
[19:26]  * genii ponders "<Mutaz> But I have a bun in my Ubuntu"
[19:38] <Flannel> genii: floppy drives are cracker holders, so maybe he's got a HDD hotswap bay that he's stuck a dinner roll in or something.
[19:38] <genii> Heh!
[21:38] <hotmedal> I'm banned on #ubuntu
[21:39] <hotmedal> probably because of some network problems I had before
[21:39] <hotmedal> join/part messages might have spammed the channel
[21:40]  * rww takes a look
[21:40] <rww> @btlogin
[21:42] <rww> hotmedal: Your IP range is banned because of abuse by someone. The op who set the ban (k1l) isn't around right now. I'll ask him about it when I see him.
[21:43] <rww> k1l_: when you get back, hotmedal was asking about ban 56906
[21:51] <hotmedal> I was told once that I won't be affected by IP range bans if I had a freenode Nick :/
[22:05] <elky> who told you that?
[22:56] <IntelAthlon> what did i do?
[23:25] <hotmedal> I'm still banned. And going offline. Hope someone fixes it soon. Later.