[00:10] <balloons> Nothing_Much, yes
[01:12] <Nothing_Much> balloons: nice
[05:07] <pitti> Godo morning
[11:30] <pgb> import patternbook failed, any ideas?
[13:29] <netlar> I want to contribute my time , how can I help?
[13:31] <elfy> hi netlar depends what you can and want to do :) have a look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam
[13:33] <netlar> Well at first maybe just help with documentation or doc review, maybe later with bug squashing
[13:33] <netlar> I have subscibed to the mailing list already, but just not sure how to get involved
[13:37] <netlar> Hello?
[13:55] <elfy> netlar: sorry - am about but was afk
[13:55] <balloons> netlar, howdy
[13:55] <elfy> I don't have anything to do with any of those things - just testing
[13:56] <elfy> slickymasterWork might be able to point you in the right docs directions
[13:58] <elfy> hi balloons
[13:59] <netlar> balloons: Hi
[14:00] <netlar> elfy: Well I am loading the test enviroment now, going to see about testing
[14:00] <netlar> Just heard there is document writers needed too
[14:02] <elfy> netlar: I'd not really know what docs needs - other than like any other part of the community effort it needs people :)
[14:03] <netlar> Just thought I would start here, maybe save some time poking around in the dark
[14:05] <elfy> netlar: lol - there is that, if you want really specific pointers as to what you could do - then I am going to say testing packages and images for Xubuntu :)
[14:06] <netlar> elfy: I am loading the test drive iso as we speak
[14:07] <elfy> I never use it tbh - I just roll my own vbox installs
[14:08] <netlar> I was not sure where to begin, just saw that on the community page
[14:08] <elfy> if you are used to using virtual machines - you're probably going to be better just doing that
[14:08] <elfy> yep - understood :)
[14:09] <netlar> This test drive seems cool, it loads the latest build on the virtual machine and can be done everyday that way. I will see how that works
[14:09] <elfy> does it - no idea :)
[14:10] <elfy> I'm just editing that wiki page actually - it just points at Ubuntu images - there are a whole bunch of other flavours that would love to get help
[14:10] <netlar> How are you editing the wiki?
[14:11] <elfy> logged in
[14:11] <elfy> you will need to get a login, for more or less everything in the *buntu world
[14:12] <netlar> I have an UbuntuOne login already, do I need multiple logins?
[14:12] <elfy> nope - that one will do :)
[14:13] <netlar> cool
[14:20] <elfy> wiki has 4 main flavours now
[14:20] <netlar> How often do you edit it?
[14:20] <elfy> well I edit pages that need editing when I see them
[14:21] <elfy> I don't go out of my way to find them though
[14:21] <netlar> Can you give me an example? Just trying to get a point of reference
[14:21] <elfy> not sure I follow you with that
[14:22] <netlar> LIke something you have edited recently
[14:22] <elfy> of how I edited it?
[14:23] <netlar> no, more of what type of thing you found wrong
[14:23] <elfy> oic - well on looking at it I saw that it pointed at Ubuntu images for testing
[14:23] <elfy> as the Xubuntu QA Lead, that struck me as really really bad :)
[14:24] <netlar> cool
[14:24] <elfy> so I added Xubuntu images in - and because I try to be fair - I also added Kubuntu, Lubuntu and UbuntuGnome :)
[14:24] <elfy> what you'll find is that *this* channel is quality in general - but majority is aimed at Ubuntu
[14:25] <netlar> I am on Ubuntu Unity myself
[14:25] <elfy> you'll also find people like me in here - desperate to get help for their own particular flavour ;)
[14:25] <elfy> I tend to only run Ubuntu if I'm tracking down a bug that Xubuntu has got - to see if it's common
[14:26] <netlar> Makes sense
[14:26] <netlar> Just to let you know, that test drive thing did not work :(
[14:27] <elfy> have you run a virtual machine before?
[14:27] <netlar> Yep
[14:28] <netlar> Never had any problems loading an iso before
[14:28] <elfy> right - then I use the oracle vbox - create a vm for what I'm testing and then use that
[14:28] <netlar> VBOX is my choice too
[14:28] <elfy> the iso that testdrive downloaded will be in ~/.cache/testdrive/iso
[14:28] <elfy> you can point vbox at that
[14:29] <netlar> Great, think I will do that instead, I just tried it from the test drive app
[14:29] <elfy> I have a folder I put iso's in - then I zsync against *today's* iso the next time - so I just grab a partial amount of the iso
[14:30] <netlar> zsync?
[14:30] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage
[14:30] <netlar> wow great
[14:31] <elfy> say tomorrow you want to look again - check the download page for current and there is a zsync listing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/315/builds/78735/downloads
[14:31] <elfy> use that in the same place your existing iso is
[14:32] <netlar> Just overwrite it
[14:32] <elfy> for me today against my xubuntu image I get Read utopic-desktop-amd64.iso. Target 82.3% complete.
[14:32] <elfy> so yes - it then overwrites the existing and then saves the original as .iso.zs-old
[14:33] <elfy> if you're on slow connection only needing to grab 18% is a useful thing :)
[14:33] <netlar> Good
[14:34] <netlar> More important for me, not use too much data, my provider has a cap
[14:34] <elfy> yep - very useful then :)
[14:35] <netlar> At this point I am a 50/50 guy
[14:35] <netlar> I appreciate the command line
[14:36] <netlar> But I am a gui guy too, how I started out in computers
[14:36] <elfy> I use it if it's quicker for me
[14:36] <elfy> or if it's quicker to help someone :)
[14:37] <elfy> I can help someone with apt, or Xubuntu GUI - wouldn't have a clue what other DE's have to use
[14:37] <netlar> Very true, the gui side would be hard to know where to go in the different flavors
[14:37] <netlar> cli would be much easier
[14:38] <elfy> yea
[14:39] <elfy> and frankly imo impoirtant for people to at least know how even if they don't use cli - if they can use it and something like nano - having to drop to recovery mode is easier
[14:41] <netlar> Yes
[14:41] <netlar> But I need to say, if my wife was told to do that, she would just go to best buy and buy a windows machine the next day :)
[14:42] <elfy> :)
[14:42] <elfy> and if that broke? ;)
[14:43] <elfy> horses for courses - use what works
[14:43] <netlar> Probably just let it sit in corner broken
[14:43] <elfy> lol
[14:45] <netlar> That is why we have a mac
[14:46] <elfy> ha
[14:49] <netlar> Well thanks for the info, I will be back
[16:29] <elopio> om26er: can you please follow up https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/camera-app/lp1366825_fix_zoom until it lands?
[16:30] <om26er> elopio, oh, crap. I failed to track it. On it
[16:30] <elopio> thanks.
[16:30] <om26er> elopio, did you write the test code for the camera-app in the past ?
[16:31] <om26er> I found that the failure that we are seeing is because sometimes the test clicks on the wrong icon, it is supposed to click on torch icon, it rather clicks on location icon.
[16:31] <elopio> om26er: no. I once tried to move it to py3, but I think somebody else's branch landed for that.
[16:32] <om26er> ah.
[16:33] <om26er> elopio, do you have a clue on how to add objectName here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/trunk/view/head:/OptionsOverlay.qml#L41 ?
[16:37] <elopio> om26er: can't you just put it inside the OptionButton?
[16:38] <om26er> elopio, I tried that it didn;t work, now I am looking at something similar perhaps I will try to make a similar solution here. Will let you know
[16:40] <elopio> ok. If you need a hand, Kaleo I think it's the camera dev.