| ali1234 | hah! ipv6 | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| shauno | we've created a monster | 00:05 |
| ali1234 | hey shauno | 00:05 |
| shauno | morning | 00:05 |
| ali1234 | while i was fiddling around the raid died | 00:05 |
| ali1234 | we had to get a new hard drive put in, and the other drive had enough bad blocks to corrupt the OS | 00:06 |
| shauno | I'm quite glad I'm not one of your computers | 00:06 |
| ali1234 | then we had to reinstall... so now we've got working ipv6 at least | 00:06 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:06 |
| ali1234 | now i just have to set verything up again :) | 00:06 |
| daftykins | why weren't the bad blocks spotted prior in some kinda RAID health report 0o | 00:07 |
| diddledan | iplayer thinks I'm foreign again | 00:07 |
| daftykins | diddledan: perhaps they've yet to geoIP the 'amazing' variant of stoke ;D | 00:07 |
| shauno | we finally get to deport dan? | 00:07 |
| ali1234 | daftykins: cos the mails go to /var/mail/root and who reads that? | 00:08 |
| daftykins | lol | 00:10 |
| daftykins | urgh it really annoys me when a dynamic DNS service doesn't seem to be functioning | 00:11 |
| shauno | I just don't do dynamic dns. once, I tried to do it on bind9 with apple 'global bonjour' pushing updates. I'm still not quite the same person I was before that. | 00:13 |
| diddledan | daftykins: as in the service providing dynamic dns or the service the ddns hostname points to? | 00:13 |
| daftykins | well, i get a timeout trying to SSH to a client's box, that's all i truly know | 00:14 |
| diddledan | aah | 00:14 |
| daftykins | i haven't quite gotten around to getting them to pay for no-ip, so he forwards me the renew emails instead | 00:15 |
| daftykins | i got one just the other day and did the captcha, but oddly it doesn't seem to be around | 00:15 |
| daftykins | i might just be doing something silly, my heads not quite right since the accident still :/ | 00:15 |
| daftykins | i need to start taking notes of clients setups such as port configs, so i don't rely on my memory | 00:15 |
| diddledan | anyone around who knows about floppies? | 01:32 |
| diddledan | specifically really ancient 360KB 5.25inchers | 01:32 |
| ali1234 | a bit | 01:32 |
| diddledan | ubuntu 14.04.1 won't recognise them | 01:32 |
| daftykins | lol | 01:33 |
| diddledan | I can correctly boot off an msdos disk but ubuntu won't mount the same disk stating that fd0 isn't a valid block device | 01:33 |
| ali1234 | it might be a usb device | 01:33 |
| diddledan | o_O | 01:34 |
| diddledan | what would usb have to do with things? | 01:34 |
| ali1234 | motherboard chipsets don't have floppy drive controllers built in any more | 01:34 |
| diddledan | this motherboard does tho | 01:34 |
| diddledan | you can't get usb adapters for 5.25inch drives | 01:35 |
| ali1234 | well, quite | 01:35 |
| ali1234 | did the mysql password hashing change between ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04? | 01:53 |
| diddledan | ali1234: it might have, tho I would expect any older password hashes would still be supported for auth | 02:53 |
| ali1234 | nope | 02:53 |
| ali1234 | got to reset all the passwords | 02:54 |
| diddledan | grr | 02:54 |
| popey | [A | 07:09 |
| popey | Morning | 07:09 |
| diplo | Morning | 07:25 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:29 |
| DJones | I'll make up the quorum and confirm it is Morning | 07:30 |
| smittix | Well that game idea hit a brick wall. | 07:48 |
| popey | game idea? | 07:50 |
| smittix | heh http://fpaste.org/132930/14104688/ | 07:52 |
| smittix | Was messing around with Python | 07:52 |
| popey | heeh | 07:53 |
| popey | I was playing with an HTML5 game creator thing recently | 07:53 |
| smittix | I just sat there last night bored so started creating that. It'd look quite good in that old terminal application. | 07:53 |
| smittix | I will have to add the games list and what not and see what to do from there. May have to watch the movie again. | 07:54 |
| popey | Happy birthday JamesTait | 08:16 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Stand Up To Cancer Day! :-D | 08:16 |
| marxjohnson | I've just turned my laptop on to find it's treating the keyboard as US layout, even though it's set to UK | 08:18 |
| JamesTait | I read an e-mail thread about that recently, that I think suggested there was a bug. | 08:19 |
| JamesTait | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-September/037881.html | 08:20 |
| marxjohnson | aha, cheers | 08:23 |
| marxjohnson | I'm doing a dist-upgrade now so we'll see if that fixes it... | 08:23 |
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| marxjohnson | Hrm nope still not right. | 08:53 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/12/glossary-internet-4chan-lolcats-buzzfeed-zynga | 08:54 |
| DJones | MartijnVdS: Hmmh "IRC – internet relay chat, the protocol that allows IMs" So thats what IRC is.... Think it misses the point | 08:59 |
| MartijnVdS | DJones: well, it's the original IM :) | 09:00 |
| DJones | I can understand that argument, but does seem to understate what it actually is | 09:01 |
| MartijnVdS | True, but it's an article for "normal" people :) | 09:02 |
| DJones | I still think they'd have been better describing IRC as an instant messaging service using the multiplayer notepad system | 09:03 |
| DJones | Hah, Pressgazette launches petition to stop authorities "spying" on journalists phone records.........Seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle black | 09:24 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | Email from my VPS | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | /etc/cron.daily/apt: | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 10:36 |
| bigcalm | I don't think that's a happy result | 10:36 |
| Laney | the dying cry of an apt in distress | 10:36 |
| Laney | where's your super cow powers now? huh? | 10:37 |
| SuperMatt | I found a server the other day where crond hadn't started for months | 10:39 |
| SuperMatt | didn't come back after a reboot either | 10:40 |
| * bigcalm scratches his head | 10:40 | |
| SuperMatt | stragely it started fine when I ran the init script | 10:40 |
| * popey looks for a good onion soup recipe. i haz too many onions | 10:40 | |
| bigcalm | I have MariaDB installed on my VPS. Just done a dist-upgrade and it's warning me that it's going to migrate the config from MySQL. Most odd | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | popey: toasted cheese and onion sandwiches | 10:41 |
| popey | i have cheddar and edam, so that's a possibility | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | popey: caramelised onions | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | 6 large red onions makes for a good batch of caramelised onions | 10:42 |
| bigcalm | Anybody here running Ubuntu 14.04.1 on a 32bit machine? | 10:43 |
| bigcalm | I'm getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326169/ | 10:44 |
| popey | bug 1320563 | 10:48 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1320563 in systemd (Ubuntu) "invoke-rc.d: initscript systemd-logind, action "start" failed." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320563 | 10:48 |
| bigcalm | Ta | 10:49 |
| * bigcalm reads | 10:49 | |
| bigcalm | Yep, Bytemark use a KVM kernel | 10:51 |
| bigcalm | Now to see if they have a kernel close to 3.13.0 | 10:51 |
| bigcalm | Oh | 10:52 |
| bigcalm | uname says that it's using 3.2.60 | 10:52 |
| bigcalm | Humg | 10:54 |
| bigcalm | Humf | 10:54 |
| bigcalm | The highest the VPS has to offer is 3.4.92 | 10:55 |
| bigcalm | Well, that worked | 10:57 |
| bigcalm | popey: thanks | 10:57 |
| popey | np | 10:58 |
| SuperMatt | for some strange reason, I can't load the gnome-shell control panel | 11:16 |
| SuperMatt | what's the process name for that? | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: I don't know I don't use gnome-shell | 11:17 |
| SuperMatt | looks like gnome-control-center was uninstalled somehow | 11:18 |
| * brobostigon has been using gnome3 for ages now. | 11:19 | |
| SuperMatt | I started using it at work because our dual screen 19" monitors + cruddy graphics cards meant that unity ran slow | 11:20 |
| SuperMatt | I'm now thinking of moving to opensuse factory so I can have a rolling release, and therefore get the new versions of gnome quicker | 11:23 |
| foobarry | have you used opensuse before? i found it ....odd | 11:40 |
| foobarry | and buggy and annoying | 11:40 |
| SuperMatt | I put it on my home desktop last night | 11:40 |
| SuperMatt | I think factory has a space for me because it's rolling and because it's quite solid | 11:40 |
| SuperMatt | and it uses yum which I know well | 11:40 |
| SuperMatt | I don't know pacman enough to use arch | 11:41 |
| foobarry | it also uses that weird yast crap | 11:42 |
| foobarry | i really wanted to like it but hated it | 11:42 |
| foobarry | it should be intuitive to switch distros but this wasn't, even though the DE was the same | 11:43 |
| foobarry | maybe its changed in a few years since i tried | 11:43 |
| foobarry | actually last one i tried would even boot on my machine! | 11:44 |
| foobarry | *not | 11:44 |
| SuperMatt | I find opensuse interesting because it seems to lie between the rhel and debian ways of doing things | 11:45 |
| SuperMatt | I just want to find out if they're taking the best things of each | 11:45 |
| nigelb | Happy Birthday JamesTait! | 11:51 |
| JamesTait | THanks, nigelb. :) | 11:53 |
| nigelb | Or should I say, happy JamesTait day :D | 11:54 |
| JamesTait | Oooh, that sounds scary! | 11:56 |
| foobarry | wondering if i can justify buying a picture book for ~£35 | 11:57 |
| popey | a wat? | 11:58 |
| foobarry | a book. printed one. with art in it | 11:58 |
| JamesTait | A bookbook! | 11:59 |
| foobarry | because my stupid/lovely library doesn't stock them | 11:59 |
| JamesTait | http://youtu.be/MOXQo7nURs0 | 12:00 |
| foobarry | there's about 3 i want, so ideally i need to find a bookbookshop to peruse and browse | 12:00 |
| foobarry | but only central london would have that variety :( | 12:01 |
| intrbiz | foobarry: I use openSUSE, which version did you try? | 12:05 |
| foobarry | You can place a reservation for stock held within this London Libraries Consortium [LLC] catalogue for free | 12:07 |
| foobarry | oh cool | 12:07 |
| foobarry | intrbiz: 5yrs ago :D | 12:07 |
| intrbiz | ah ok | 12:07 |
| foobarry | maybe 2011 | 12:07 |
| intrbiz | 11.x then I guess | 12:07 |
| intrbiz | yum is no more in suse, replaced with zypper | 12:08 |
| foobarry | yes, i had zypper and yast to deal with | 12:09 |
| foobarry | i never saw yum inside suse | 12:09 |
| intrbiz | zypper is probably the best package manager around | 12:09 |
| foobarry | "A 40p fee is payable for requesting an item". when is free not free? | 12:09 |
| intrbiz | yast is interesting, it's been rewritten in 13.1 + | 12:09 |
| intrbiz | ported to ruby | 12:10 |
| foobarry | also the firewall config sucks royally on suse | 12:10 |
| intrbiz | yup, that is easily fixed with: zypper in shorewall | 12:10 |
| foobarry | had to make a change on a VM appliance made with suse factory thing | 12:11 |
| foobarry | fw was hideous | 12:11 |
| intrbiz | haha | 12:11 |
| intrbiz | mageia had a very good FW setup and tools | 12:12 |
| foobarry | i tend to use more standard distro as i use them in enterprise too | 12:13 |
| foobarry | rhel/centos/ubuntu/debian | 12:14 |
| intrbiz | sure, I've drifted away from mageia, mainly use openSUSE with some centos / debian / ubuntu as needed | 12:14 |
| foobarry | whats the old name for mageia again? | 12:18 |
| intrbiz | Mandrake -> Mandriva -> Mageia | 12:19 |
| intrbiz | Mandriva was when Mandrake merged with Conectiva and a legal case forced a name change | 12:19 |
| intrbiz | Mageia was the community fork | 12:20 |
| intrbiz | there is also OpenMandriva, which doesn't seem to have much traction | 12:20 |
| foobarry | heh | 12:32 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: mobile internet still more reliable than your home connection eh? | 13:01 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: certainly faster in an area with good coverage | 13:19 |
| diddledan | now. a floppy drive that works fine via bios to boot a floppy (5.25inch 360KB drive) seems to io error on ubuntu 14.04 | 13:24 |
| diddledan | dmesg correctly reports that the floppy drive is a 360KB unit | 13:25 |
| diddledan | but dmesg says there's io error when trying to mount it | 13:26 |
| bigcalm | Wow, having fun with old hardware there | 13:26 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: yeah, I want to archive all my hundreds of floppies | 13:27 |
| diddledan | before the hardware to access them completely disappears off the planet | 13:27 |
| * bigcalm tickles christel :) | 14:30 | |
| diddledan | bigcalm: you flirty | 14:35 |
| diddledan | --y | 14:36 |
| christel | hello bigcalm :) | 14:37 |
| davmor2 | christel: hello ;) | 15:09 |
| davmor2 | :) even | 15:09 |
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| diddledan | I've got my floppy mounted! | 17:10 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 17:11 |
| intrbiz | diddledan: is it USB? | 17:11 |
| diddledan | I had to tell the kernel that the disk change line doesn't exist | 17:11 |
| diddledan | intrbiz: no | 17:11 |
| diddledan | intrbiz: it's an old 5.25 inch 360KB unit | 17:12 |
| intrbiz | sure, just wondered how you were connecting it | 17:13 |
| bigcalm | I assume via an old mobo with a FD interface | 17:14 |
| diddledan | direct to the mobo's fdc | 17:14 |
| diddledan | you can't get usb connected 5.25 drives or adapters | 17:14 |
| intrbiz | don't 5.25" and 3.5" drives share the same bus | 17:16 |
| diddledan | yes they do | 17:16 |
| diddledan | but your controller chip needs to know how to drive it | 17:17 |
| diddledan | usb adapters for 3.5inch drives don't have the smarts to drive an older drive | 17:17 |
| intrbiz | ok | 17:18 |
| diddledan | floppy isn't the same as hdd - you need to specify exactly where the head should position itself via the protocol - you can't just say "I want block x" instead you say "move head to position 152 and spin the disk to 270degrees | 17:18 |
| diddledan | it's for this very capability that copyprotection methods could be created which rely on a spiral track instead of a circular track as is normal | 17:20 |
| ali1234 | PC controller chips don't know how to read spiral floppies tho | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | which is why they can't read amiga disks etc, even though the drive hardware is identical | 17:32 |
| diddledan | it's working nicely now with the disk change line disabled | 17:50 |
| diddledan | getting lots of usable data off these floppies now | 17:51 |
| shauno | I'm almost curious what you're keeping on 5.25" disks that you'd still call usable :p | 18:02 |
| Giulianoc | Hello I have a ibm x31 thinkpad with ubuntu 10.10 ,Can you help to nstall xubuntu 12.04 , please? | 20:46 |
| diddledan | oh golly that's ancient | 20:50 |
| diddledan | that's gonna be a pain to bring up-to-date without wiping and starting anew | 20:51 |
| Giulianoc | I do not have a problem to wipe the system since I cannot run any update through the update manager and install the 12.04 -14.04 Ubuntus os because not syupported pae | 20:53 |
| Giulianoc | Hence xubuntu 12.04 | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | is there a tool that will format mysqldump output so it isn't all one line and i can grep it? | 20:58 |
| diddledan | ali1234: mysqldump can be told not to do that | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | too late for that now :( | 21:00 |
| Giulianoc | Thanks for your prompt response, apology but I do not understand the question:format mysqldump output so it isn't all one line and i can grep it? | 21:00 |
| daftykins | Giulianoc: backup your data and clean install | 21:02 |
| diddledan | ali1234: for the future you can add --skip-extended-insert to the mysqldump commandline - I guess if it's not humungous you could import it into a blank db and re-export it? | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | yeah the thing is it isn't importing properly | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | that's what i'm trying to fix | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | i have a set of daily, weekly, monthly backups and i am tryin to figure out which ones are okay and which ones are bad | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | and why half the tables disappeared | 21:04 |
| Giulianoc | how? | 21:06 |
| Azelphur | Does anyone know (or know anyone who would know) how to add custom emblems to nautilus, for the purposes of a nautilus plugin? | 21:08 |
| Azelphur | the documentation is useless :( | 21:08 |
| ali1234 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10874702/gnome-where-does-nautilus-store-emblem-data-and-how | 21:09 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: ty :) | 21:09 |
| Giulianoc | Does anyone know how create a pae, please? | 21:30 |
| Azelphur | create a pae? physical address extension? | 21:30 |
| Azelphur | what are you actually trying to do? the question doesn't make much sense | 21:30 |
| Giulianoc | on my ubuntu version 10.10 I cannot install any new system because my pc x31 ib,m thinkpad has no pae | 21:32 |
| Giulianoc | yes create a pae ty | 21:32 |
| Giulianoc | or have an os ubuntu that does need one | 21:34 |
| Giulianoc | please help | 21:41 |
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