[00:04] hah! ipv6 [00:05] we've created a monster [00:05] hey shauno [00:05] morning [00:05] while i was fiddling around the raid died [00:06] we had to get a new hard drive put in, and the other drive had enough bad blocks to corrupt the OS [00:06] I'm quite glad I'm not one of your computers [00:06] then we had to reinstall... so now we've got working ipv6 at least [00:06] XD [00:06] now i just have to set verything up again :) [00:07] why weren't the bad blocks spotted prior in some kinda RAID health report 0o [00:07] iplayer thinks I'm foreign again [00:07] diddledan: perhaps they've yet to geoIP the 'amazing' variant of stoke ;D [00:07] we finally get to deport dan? [00:08] daftykins: cos the mails go to /var/mail/root and who reads that? [00:10] lol [00:11] urgh it really annoys me when a dynamic DNS service doesn't seem to be functioning [00:13] I just don't do dynamic dns. once, I tried to do it on bind9 with apple 'global bonjour' pushing updates. I'm still not quite the same person I was before that. [00:13] daftykins: as in the service providing dynamic dns or the service the ddns hostname points to? [00:14] well, i get a timeout trying to SSH to a client's box, that's all i truly know [00:14] aah [00:15] i haven't quite gotten around to getting them to pay for no-ip, so he forwards me the renew emails instead [00:15] i got one just the other day and did the captcha, but oddly it doesn't seem to be around [00:15] i might just be doing something silly, my heads not quite right since the accident still :/ [00:15] i need to start taking notes of clients setups such as port configs, so i don't rely on my memory [01:32] anyone around who knows about floppies? [01:32] specifically really ancient 360KB 5.25inchers [01:32] a bit [01:32] ubuntu 14.04.1 won't recognise them [01:33] lol [01:33] I can correctly boot off an msdos disk but ubuntu won't mount the same disk stating that fd0 isn't a valid block device [01:33] it might be a usb device [01:34] o_O [01:34] what would usb have to do with things? [01:34] motherboard chipsets don't have floppy drive controllers built in any more [01:34] this motherboard does tho [01:35] you can't get usb adapters for 5.25inch drives [01:35] well, quite [01:53] did the mysql password hashing change between ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04? [02:53] ali1234: it might have, tho I would expect any older password hashes would still be supported for auth [02:53] nope [02:54] got to reset all the passwords [02:54] grr [07:09] [A [07:09] Morning [07:25] Morning [07:29] morning boys and girls. [07:30] I'll make up the quorum and confirm it is Morning [07:48] Well that game idea hit a brick wall. [07:50] game idea? [07:52] heh http://fpaste.org/132930/14104688/ [07:52] Was messing around with Python [07:53] heeh [07:53] I was playing with an HTML5 game creator thing recently [07:53] I just sat there last night bored so started creating that. It'd look quite good in that old terminal application. [07:54] I will have to add the games list and what not and see what to do from there. May have to watch the movie again. [08:16] Happy birthday JamesTait [08:16] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Stand Up To Cancer Day! :-D [08:18] I've just turned my laptop on to find it's treating the keyboard as US layout, even though it's set to UK [08:19] I read an e-mail thread about that recently, that I think suggested there was a bug. [08:20] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-September/037881.html [08:23] aha, cheers [08:23] I'm doing a dist-upgrade now so we'll see if that fixes it... === msm is now known as Guest17865 [08:53] Hrm nope still not right. [08:54] http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/12/glossary-internet-4chan-lolcats-buzzfeed-zynga [08:59] MartijnVdS: Hmmh "IRC – internet relay chat, the protocol that allows IMs" So thats what IRC is.... Think it misses the point [09:00] DJones: well, it's the original IM :) [09:01] I can understand that argument, but does seem to understate what it actually is [09:02] True, but it's an article for "normal" people :) [09:03] I still think they'd have been better describing IRC as an instant messaging service using the multiplayer notepad system [09:24] Hah, Pressgazette launches petition to stop authorities "spying" on journalists phone records.........Seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle black [10:36] Good morning peeps :) [10:36] Email from my VPS [10:36] /etc/cron.daily/apt: [10:36] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [10:36] I don't think that's a happy result [10:36] the dying cry of an apt in distress [10:37] where's your super cow powers now? huh? [10:39] I found a server the other day where crond hadn't started for months [10:40] didn't come back after a reboot either [10:40] * bigcalm scratches his head [10:40] stragely it started fine when I ran the init script [10:40] * popey looks for a good onion soup recipe. i haz too many onions [10:41] I have MariaDB installed on my VPS. Just done a dist-upgrade and it's warning me that it's going to migrate the config from MySQL. Most odd [10:41] popey: toasted cheese and onion sandwiches [10:41] i have cheddar and edam, so that's a possibility [10:41] popey: caramelised onions [10:42] 6 large red onions makes for a good batch of caramelised onions [10:43] Anybody here running Ubuntu 14.04.1 on a 32bit machine? [10:44] I'm getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326169/ [10:48] bug 1320563 [10:48] bug 1320563 in systemd (Ubuntu) "invoke-rc.d: initscript systemd-logind, action "start" failed." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320563 [10:49] Ta [10:49] * bigcalm reads [10:51] Yep, Bytemark use a KVM kernel [10:51] Now to see if they have a kernel close to 3.13.0 [10:52] Oh [10:52] uname says that it's using 3.2.60 [10:54] Humg [10:54] Humf [10:55] The highest the VPS has to offer is 3.4.92 [10:57] Well, that worked [10:57] popey: thanks [10:58] np [11:16] for some strange reason, I can't load the gnome-shell control panel [11:16] what's the process name for that? [11:17] SuperMatt: I don't know I don't use gnome-shell [11:18] looks like gnome-control-center was uninstalled somehow [11:19] * brobostigon has been using gnome3 for ages now. [11:20] I started using it at work because our dual screen 19" monitors + cruddy graphics cards meant that unity ran slow [11:23] I'm now thinking of moving to opensuse factory so I can have a rolling release, and therefore get the new versions of gnome quicker [11:40] have you used opensuse before? i found it ....odd [11:40] and buggy and annoying [11:40] I put it on my home desktop last night [11:40] I think factory has a space for me because it's rolling and because it's quite solid [11:40] and it uses yum which I know well [11:41] I don't know pacman enough to use arch [11:42] it also uses that weird yast crap [11:42] i really wanted to like it but hated it [11:43] it should be intuitive to switch distros but this wasn't, even though the DE was the same [11:43] maybe its changed in a few years since i tried [11:44] actually last one i tried would even boot on my machine! [11:44] *not [11:45] I find opensuse interesting because it seems to lie between the rhel and debian ways of doing things [11:45] I just want to find out if they're taking the best things of each [11:51] Happy Birthday JamesTait! [11:53] THanks, nigelb. :) [11:54] Or should I say, happy JamesTait day :D [11:56] Oooh, that sounds scary! [11:57] wondering if i can justify buying a picture book for ~£35 [11:58] a wat? [11:58] a book. printed one. with art in it [11:59] A bookbook! [11:59] because my stupid/lovely library doesn't stock them [12:00] http://youtu.be/MOXQo7nURs0 [12:00] there's about 3 i want, so ideally i need to find a bookbookshop to peruse and browse [12:01] but only central london would have that variety :( [12:05] foobarry: I use openSUSE, which version did you try? [12:07] You can place a reservation for stock held within this London Libraries Consortium [LLC] catalogue for free [12:07] oh cool [12:07] intrbiz: 5yrs ago :D [12:07] ah ok [12:07] maybe 2011 [12:07] 11.x then I guess [12:08] yum is no more in suse, replaced with zypper [12:09] yes, i had zypper and yast to deal with [12:09] i never saw yum inside suse [12:09] zypper is probably the best package manager around [12:09] "A 40p fee is payable for requesting an item". when is free not free? [12:09] yast is interesting, it's been rewritten in 13.1 + [12:10] ported to ruby [12:10] also the firewall config sucks royally on suse [12:10] yup, that is easily fixed with: zypper in shorewall [12:11] had to make a change on a VM appliance made with suse factory thing [12:11] fw was hideous [12:11] haha [12:12] mageia had a very good FW setup and tools [12:13] i tend to use more standard distro as i use them in enterprise too [12:14] rhel/centos/ubuntu/debian [12:14] sure, I've drifted away from mageia, mainly use openSUSE with some centos / debian / ubuntu as needed [12:18] whats the old name for mageia again? [12:19] Mandrake -> Mandriva -> Mageia [12:19] Mandriva was when Mandrake merged with Conectiva and a legal case forced a name change [12:20] Mageia was the community fork [12:20] there is also OpenMandriva, which doesn't seem to have much traction [12:32] heh [13:01] intrbiz: mobile internet still more reliable than your home connection eh? [13:19] bigcalm: certainly faster in an area with good coverage [13:24] now. a floppy drive that works fine via bios to boot a floppy (5.25inch 360KB drive) seems to io error on ubuntu 14.04 [13:25] dmesg correctly reports that the floppy drive is a 360KB unit [13:26] but dmesg says there's io error when trying to mount it [13:26] Wow, having fun with old hardware there [13:27] bigcalm: yeah, I want to archive all my hundreds of floppies [13:27] before the hardware to access them completely disappears off the planet [14:30] * bigcalm tickles christel :) [14:35] bigcalm: you flirty [14:36] --y [14:37] hello bigcalm :) [15:09] christel: hello ;) [15:09] :) even === jadel is now known as nathphil === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [17:10] I've got my floppy mounted! [17:11] \o/ [17:11] diddledan: is it USB? [17:11] I had to tell the kernel that the disk change line doesn't exist [17:11] intrbiz: no [17:12] intrbiz: it's an old 5.25 inch 360KB unit [17:13] sure, just wondered how you were connecting it [17:14] I assume via an old mobo with a FD interface [17:14] direct to the mobo's fdc [17:14] you can't get usb connected 5.25 drives or adapters [17:16] don't 5.25" and 3.5" drives share the same bus [17:16] yes they do [17:17] but your controller chip needs to know how to drive it [17:17] usb adapters for 3.5inch drives don't have the smarts to drive an older drive [17:18] ok [17:18] floppy isn't the same as hdd - you need to specify exactly where the head should position itself via the protocol - you can't just say "I want block x" instead you say "move head to position 152 and spin the disk to 270degrees [17:20] it's for this very capability that copyprotection methods could be created which rely on a spiral track instead of a circular track as is normal [17:31] PC controller chips don't know how to read spiral floppies tho [17:32] which is why they can't read amiga disks etc, even though the drive hardware is identical [17:50] it's working nicely now with the disk change line disabled [17:51] getting lots of usable data off these floppies now [18:02] I'm almost curious what you're keeping on 5.25" disks that you'd still call usable :p [20:46] Hello I have a ibm x31 thinkpad with ubuntu 10.10 ,Can you help to nstall xubuntu 12.04 , please? [20:50] oh golly that's ancient [20:51] that's gonna be a pain to bring up-to-date without wiping and starting anew [20:53] I do not have a problem to wipe the system since I cannot run any update through the update manager and install the 12.04 -14.04 Ubuntus os because not syupported pae [20:53] Hence xubuntu 12.04 [20:58] is there a tool that will format mysqldump output so it isn't all one line and i can grep it? [21:00] ali1234: mysqldump can be told not to do that [21:00] too late for that now :( [21:00] Thanks for your prompt response, apology but I do not understand the question:format mysqldump output so it isn't all one line and i can grep it? [21:02] Giulianoc: backup your data and clean install [21:02] ali1234: for the future you can add --skip-extended-insert to the mysqldump commandline - I guess if it's not humungous you could import it into a blank db and re-export it? [21:02] yeah the thing is it isn't importing properly [21:02] that's what i'm trying to fix [21:04] i have a set of daily, weekly, monthly backups and i am tryin to figure out which ones are okay and which ones are bad [21:04] and why half the tables disappeared [21:06] how? [21:08] Does anyone know (or know anyone who would know) how to add custom emblems to nautilus, for the purposes of a nautilus plugin? [21:08] the documentation is useless :( [21:09] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10874702/gnome-where-does-nautilus-store-emblem-data-and-how [21:09] ali1234: ty :) [21:30] Does anyone know how create a pae, please? [21:30] create a pae? physical address extension? [21:30] what are you actually trying to do? the question doesn't make much sense [21:32] on my ubuntu version 10.10 I cannot install any new system because my pc x31 ib,m thinkpad has no pae [21:32] yes create a pae ty [21:34] or have an os ubuntu that does need one [21:41] please help === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [22:33] WHEEEEE === Laney is now known as Guest14360 === jpds is now known as 6JTAAFS52 === DJones is now known as Guest81776