[00:00] <jcorgan> but unpacking one shows that it has cryptsetup and the required lib/*.so files
[00:00] <jcorgan> i *may* just be able to copy those into place on the unpacked initrd.lz and then repack a new initrz.lz
[00:00] <spearhead> mattxtn, less /var/log/cron     or      tail /var/log/cron   to only view the last few lines
[00:01] <wbgvewgbw> eeee: I can not, there is a line "_" flashing will not let me do anything, is this normal?
[00:01] <jcorgan> will do a happy dance if it turns out to be that easy but not holding out too much hope :)
[00:02] <mattxtn> thanks spearhead
[00:02] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: how big is the folder you're copying ?
[00:02] <eeee> type ls -ld /home/important
[00:02] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: nevermind
[00:02] <wbgvewgbw> eeee: 10 GB maybe...
[00:02] <eeee> ok
[00:02] <netameta> There we go i am in trustry
[00:02] <netameta> so 14.04
[00:02] <eeee> might be some time then
[00:02] <netameta> that wasnt too complicated
[00:02] <netameta> thanks theadmin
[00:03] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: if you want you can run cp -rv , and it will list the files as it copies
[00:03] <wbgvewgbw> eeee: Is normal?
[00:04] <BerenBarahir> What is the name of the ppa entry for Google Chrome that I should be looking for in my Software Centre?
[00:04] <rufianw> wbgvewgbw: many commands run "the UNIX way". They don't say you anything unless something goes wrong.
[00:04] <rufianw> And while they are working, you get the empty caret.
[00:05] <wbgvewgbw> If I had not enough space, it first or warn would give an error at the end?
[00:05] <rufianw> At the end when it could not copy more.
[00:05] <xk> hi, I've met a problem with my newly  installed ubuntu 1404, i can't change desktop backgrounds or resize the launcher size. please help
[00:05] <eeee> wbgvewgbw: type df
[00:05] <rufianw> You can make more space meanwhile if you need to.
[00:05] <eeee> that will list the available space on the flash drive
[00:05] <rufianw> df -h list the space available in devices
[00:06] <rufianw> rm deletes files (but be very careful not to delete anything important! This cannot be undone)
[00:06] <rufianw> You can read this guide if you want to learn more about the shell http://linuxcommand.org/
[00:07] <xk> somebody, anybody?
[00:07] <wad> Hi guys. So I'm attempting to install Ubuntu on my laptop, which is currently set up for dual-boot Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 13. It's using UEFI. It's asking me which device I want to install the bootloader onto, but I'm not sure what I should tell it. There is already on there, right? How do I tell where it is?
[00:07] <rufianw> xk: how come you cannot change them?
[00:08] <wad> I have sda1, 24GB, I have no idea what this is. Then there is sdb, which has a pile of partitions, most of them for Windows stuff. sdb8 is where Ubuntu is installed, whihc I want to overwrite.
[00:08] <rufianw> wad: tell it the default, usually /dev/sda
[00:08] <eeee> wad: leave the default one
[00:08] <wad> ok
[00:08] <eeee> wad: wait, how come you have
[00:09] <eeee> a bunch of disks ?
[00:09] <wad> I don't know what this 24GB thing is.
[00:09] <wad> There is only one hard drive in here, sdb.
[00:09] <rufianw> wad: maybe it's your pen.
[00:09] <wad> you mean the USB drive? That's sdc.
[00:09] <eeee> wad: is it?
[00:09] <xk> I somehow messed up with the unity-control-center , the system settings only have few icons left, got it back after reinstall the control center, but that's what happening now.
[00:09] <eeee> ok
[00:09] <xk> rufianw, any ideas?
[00:10] <eeee> wad: that seems kind of odd
[00:10] <wad> 8GB, I see that in the list.
[00:10] <rufianw> xk: if you messed your config, delete it and start from scratch.
[00:10] <wad> Let me get to a prompt, and see if I can figure out what this sda is all about.
[00:10] <xk> rufianw, you mean reinstall the whole system?
[00:10] <rufianw> xk: not necessarily.
[00:10] <rufianw> They are just files.
[00:10] <rufianw> Usually in ~/.config
[00:11] <rainbowwarrior> hi , what is the best device to stream from my pc to tv under ubuntu please ?
[00:11] <rufianw> Or ~/.local/share
[00:11] <xk> rufianw, can you be more specific please or any tips?
[00:11] <wad> How can I tell what kind of stuff is on a partition?
[00:11] <rufianw> You can search there for Unity-related things and peek a bit or delete the folders you think may be related to your problem.
[00:12] <wad> I can't mount it, I just tried. It said that sda1 doesn't have a valid filesystem.
[00:12]  * wad scratches his head
[00:12] <rufianw> xk: Sorry, I cannot.
[00:12] <xk> rufianw, ok, thaks, I'll try.
[00:13] <rufianw> xk: Ah, in case you did not understood ~/.config means the .config folder in your home directory. You need to press Ctrl+H in the file browser to see files and folders starting with dot.
[00:13] <rufianw> He went away.
[00:13] <wad> Ooooh... it's some sort of SSD cache device, perhaps?
[00:14] <HideMe> I've got integrated video and a PCI Radeon card. I don't want the OS using the Radeon card.  How do I uninstall the x.org AMD driver?
[00:14] <eeee> wad: what does sudo parted -l say about it?
[00:14]  * wad tries
[00:15] <wad> Model: ATA LITEONIT LSS-24L (scsi)
[00:15] <wad> Disk /dev/sda: 24.0GB
[00:16] <wad> Okay, so I guess I don't want to put any kind of bootloaded on sda!
[00:16] <wad> s/bootloaded/bootloader/
[00:16] <wad> I'll specify sdb then.
[00:17] <QuaxEros> xk: type "man unity" in your terminal. Look at the command "unity --reset"
[00:17] <eeee> QuaxEros: that's been deprecated since forever
[00:18] <QuaxEros> eeee: and replaced by what please?
[00:18] <eeee> setsid unity i guess
[00:18] <eeee> usually you'd run dconf -reset -f /org/compiz and then setsid unity
[00:18] <eeee> to reset it
[00:18] <rufianw> What is setsid?
[00:19] <rufianw>        setsid - run a program in a new session
[00:19] <QuaxEros> kx: see the answer of eeee above...
[00:19] <eeee> QuaxEros: he left :)
[00:19] <eeee> i think
[00:20] <rufianw> Yep.
[00:20] <QuaxEros> ah, missed that :)
[00:20] <rufianw> Anyway, I'll take that into account in case some day I wreck a GTK3 thing.
[00:21] <rufianw> On a side note, do Ubuntu bug reporting windows usually bug you?
[00:21] <rufianw> This has been an issue for me in last versions.
[00:22] <rufianw> They are quite annoying.
[00:22] <eeee> not really, you can remove them though, /etc/default/apport
[00:22] <spearhead> rufianw, yes I quite agree the bug reports definately bug me...
[00:23] <rufianw> Especially because there is something always which gets bugged. And the report wizard is not very good...
[00:23] <eeee> i just hit space
[00:23] <rufianw> But cancelling it does not delete the issue. You have two messages again the next reeboot.
[00:23] <rufianw> *reboot
[00:24] <rufianw> space?
[00:24] <eeee> the space bar
[00:24] <rufianw> How does that help with apport?
[00:25] <eeee> well, i filed a couple first ones
[00:26] <eeee> you mean, how does it help with apport by canceling them?
[00:26] <w1n5t0n> eae galera
[00:27] <eeee> if you press space bar, it'll just disappear,
[00:29] <urielvigilant> After an today update to my Lubuntu 14.04.1 , the bcm 4311 stopped working suddently. When reboot appear this message at OS staring for a second : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8323050/   what happened?
[00:29] <eeee> rufianw: canceling them does resolve the issue usually, you could disable them completely if you wanted btw
[00:29] <rufianw> eeee: it didn't for me :S
[00:30] <eeee> set enabled=0 , in /etc/default/apport
[00:30] <rufianw> urielvigilant: firmware is missing it seems.
[00:30] <rufianw> Have you read the instructions there?
[00:31] <urielvigilant> i can open the links . i think it is uncomplete
[00:31] <urielvigilant> this is working so good. i cant understand
[00:31] <urielvigilant> was working
[00:33] <urielvigilant> i see i need to reinstall frimware again, like this sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[00:33] <urielvigilant> doesnit ?
[00:33] <eeee> sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[00:34] <rufianw> urielvigilant: It should not have broken. But yes, try something like that.
[00:35] <rufianw> I'm leaving, see you.
[00:44] <mvensky> looking for the syntactic sugar to control font in .Xresources file; xterm.font does not seem to work; any ideas? or references?
[00:55] <Mike9863> Does anyone know of an on screen keyboard that is split in the middle and attached at the sides of the screen?
[00:58] <jacknjill> How do I install java 7 sun?
[00:59] <iampaul83> any reason why a program would not start in boot up. This is a customer application that we developed.  If i a a do /etc/init.d/program start it works i did the update-rc.d program and set the start and stop defaults
[00:59] <yaro> Hi
[01:00] <jacknjill> Anyone?
[01:02] <jprs> jacknjill: I found a pretty good guide by googling "install java 7 sun ubuntu"
[01:02] <jprs> you might try that
[01:02] <daftykins> it's oracle, not sun - has been for years
[01:03] <jprs> yeah, also… that
[01:04] <jprs> jacknjill: did you find it?
[01:04] <rainbowwarrior> they left
[01:05] <jprs> sad
[01:05] <rainbowwarrior> jprs : what ppa did you use for oracle java 7 please ?
[01:05] <rainbowwarrior> I just want to see if there is another than the one I used, as my java only seems to half work
[01:06] <jprs> rainbowwarrior: I didn't.  I just used google.  Sorry
[01:06] <rainbowwarrior> ah ok
[01:06] <jprs> just trying to be helpful to newbies
[01:06] <jprs> and they just leave after 2min
[01:06] <jprs> sad
[01:07] <jprs> let me see what I have installed on my ubuntu box.  Java seems to work fine for me
[01:07] <jprs> just a sec
[01:09] <rainbowwarrior> i used the web something ppa
[01:09] <jprs> I just use the default
[01:09] <jprs> openjdk-7
[01:10] <jprs> I think it was just like "apt-get install openjdk" no ppa required
[01:10] <jprs> don't quote me on that, it might be a different package name
[01:10] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty
[01:10] <jprs> np
[01:25] <Bashing-om> iampaul83: What pops to mind, as ubuntu uses upstart, is  that the "job" muct be defined in upstart. Upstart then starts "/etc/init.d/program"  (??).
[01:26] <Bashing-om> muct/must*
[01:28] <tsimpson> Bashing-om: it uses /etc/init/job.conf
[01:40] <netameta> how can i get a list of what listen to what port ?
[01:41] <eeee> lsof -i :port i think
[01:41] <aman> hi
[01:42] <Guest24688> i coudnt see ubuntu panel as i login just a lable named "ubuntu Desktop"
[01:43] <Guest24688> someone there?
[02:03] <netameta> is there a way to find what out listen to what port ?
[02:03] <gr33n7007h> netameta, ss -ant
[02:05] <rainbowwarrior> gr33n7007h : aint there a way to do it with netstat ?
[02:05] <gr33n7007h> rainbowwarrior, yes, netstat -ant
[02:06] <rainbowwarrior> gr33n7007h : ty :o)
[02:06] <gr33n7007h> np :)
[02:08] <netameta> there is no way to actually now what is listening ?
[02:11] <netameta> i remember like a week or so ago someone told me how
[02:11] <netameta> cant remember though bah
[02:12] <gr33n7007h> netameta, what seems to be the problem?
[02:14] <anonmouse> #topic
[02:15] <rainbowwarrior> !topic
[02:16] <netameta> gr33n7007h i am looking for a way to see what is listening on what ports
[02:19] <gr33n7007h> netameta, `ss -ptan || netstat -ptan` will tell you whats listening and what service/program -u for upd
[02:23] <somsip> netameta: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/
[02:24] <rainbowwarrior> anyone for pizza ?
[02:24] <HikaruBG> anyone familiar with Gitlab?
[02:25] <somsip> !info gitlab
[02:25] <somsip> HikaruBG: doesn't seem to be a supported package
[02:26] <HikaruBG> somsip, i am aware of that, just the #gitlab channel no one is active, ans it seems the level of competence in this channel is sufficient to solve this problem
[02:27] <somsip> HikaruBG: not really an #ubuntu support issue then? You probably do need #gitlab support as it's offtopic here
[02:29] <HikaruBG> OK thanks
[02:29] <somsip> HikaruBG: you could ask in #ubuntu-offtopic just in case though?
[02:34] <kcj[work]> I'm still having issues with Xorg. My config appears to be getting bulldozed by something else. Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8323725/  xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8323732/
[02:35] <kcj[work]> Also, 2 gpus, 3 monitors, one rotated.
[02:38] <kcj[work]> The correct mode gets set at 15.455.
[02:40] <kcj[work]> Clobberation begins at 16.758.
[02:41] <sydney> I have no clue ;)
[02:41] <kcj[work]> I've been dealing with this noise for months.
[02:43] <sydney> Noise?
[02:43] <Agent_bob> hello
[02:43] <kcj[work]> sydney, As opposed to signal.
[02:44] <sydney> kcj[work]: Ok,im confused. ;) Whats the issue? Xorg is not working corectly with your graphics card?
[02:44] <Guest48671> do i have to run any additional command after installing a differen ram memory?
[02:44] <kcj[work]> sydney, My config doesn't stick.
[02:45] <yeats> Guest48671: nope, the BIOS should pick it up
[02:45] <sydney> kcj[work]:  oh
[02:45] <phunyguy> somsip: please don't send users to #ubuntu-offtopic for support.
[02:45] <Agent_bob> this new kernel stuff has me baffeled.   how do you make it leave the console (tty) video mode alone at boot time ?    the old vga=ask is useless nowAdays
[02:45] <sydney> Guest48671: No
[02:45] <kcj[work]> sydney, Look at 15.455 and 16.758
[02:46] <kcj[work]> sydney, I have no idea why it derails at 16.758.
[02:46] <Guest48671> yeats: my bios does pick it up, but when Ubuntu tries to use the memory it gets kernel panic
[02:46] <sydney> Resolution? What does 15.445 mean
[02:46] <kcj[work]> sydney, Timestap in Xorg.0.log
[02:47] <sydney> See howw much i know :P
[02:48] <sydney> Guest48671: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:48] <Agent_bob> is there a console mode howto somewhere that will apply to the newer kernels ?
[02:48] <Guest48671> sydney: 14.04 LTS
[02:48] <somsip> !text | Guest48671
[02:49] <sydney> Guest48671: I would recomend running memtest.
[02:49] <Agent_bob> somsip was that for me ?
[02:49] <somsip> Agent_bob: oh, yes :-) Sorry Guest48671!
[02:50] <Guest48671> sydney: I tried that, said 'unexpected error' and random characters on the screen disappeared
[02:51] <sydney> Guest48671: from a ive cd? :s
[02:51] <sydney> live*
[02:51] <Agent_bob> somsip ok i'll look there but it's not a matter of starting in text mode... it's a matter of being able to read the text in the tty console... it's tooo small for me.     there may be something on the page about that though.  thanks.
[02:52] <Guest48671> sydney: nope. I'll try that!
[02:52] <somsip> Agent_bob: so the screen resolution is wrong? Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setupsudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[02:52] <sydney> Guest48671: Hit shift in the grub screen,and it will show a list of stuff. ;)
[02:53] <somsip> Agent_bob: double paste - mouse is dying...
[02:53] <Guest48671> sydney: ok, I'll try that. Thank you!
[02:55] <Agent_bob> somsip  yeah   console (tty)   sets from 80x25 to 170x50   the latter is unusable to me and i can't seem to figure out how to keep the former at boot time.
[02:57] <somsip> Agent_bob: other than  dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, this could be a different approach to try http://forum.linuxcareer.com/threads/1661-Change-tty-font-size-with-Grub-2-boot-console-resolution
[02:57] <Geo> conceptually, if I'm running a program via an init.d script (start, stop, etc) do I want or not want daemonizing-code as part of that program?
[02:59] <Agent_bob> i was hopping that there might be something in /etc/defalut/console_setup  or some such... ;'    looking at the page now.
[02:59] <Agent_bob> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup  << promissing
[03:02] <sydney> ttyl :)
[03:04] <esse> ....
[03:04] <Agent_bob> somsip  thank you ever so much.   kernel pram "nomodeset" may be what i have been looking for.   rebooting to test.     thanks and gooday mate.
[03:04] <somsip> Agent_bob: np - glad you got it sorted
[03:06] <Geo> How can I tell if I am running upstart or sysvinit?
[03:07] <Geo> ...or systemd, or whatever else it may be
[03:08] <somsip> !upstart | Geo (more info here, but this is the Ubuntu way for now)
[03:08] <jevan> Any Tkinter programmers here?
[03:08] <somsip> jevan: #python would be better place to ask
[03:08] <jevan> somsip, they don't know
[03:09] <somsip> jevan: you could ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it's not really an #ubuntu support issue so the question doesn't belong here
[03:11] <jevan> somsip, ok, just asking around because there doesn't seem to be an irc dedicated to it.
[03:11] <somsip> jevan: yeah - I was surprised about that. Even more surprised that #python can't help. Try the offtopic channel, just in case.
[03:13] <Geo> somsip: yep, thanks... but how can I tell which I'm running?
[03:13] <phunyguy> somsip: again, PLEASE stop asking people to get support in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:13] <Geo> they both operate via the service bla start method, right?
[03:14] <phunyguy> somsip: ANY support questions related to ubuntu, doesn't matter if the software is in the repos or not, belong HERE.  Thanks.
[03:15] <jevan> phunyguy, do you have any experience with Tkinter?
[03:15] <phunyguy> no, sorry.
[03:16] <BerenBarahir> How do you install wine-compholio (>= 1.7.19-1~)  ?
[03:16] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, easiest way is to install from the PPA
[03:17] <BerenBarahir> ObrienDave How do you do that?
[03:17] <somsip> phunyguy: Firstly, again? Sorry - missed the first request. Secondly, my apologies. I thought non-ubuntu question could be asked in offtopic. I stand corrected.
[03:17] <phunyguy> No worries. :)
[03:18] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, google wine compholio PPA. follow the instructions
[03:18] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, but PPA installs are not supported here. at your own risk
[03:18] <phunyguy> somsip: they can ask there, but please don't send them there as a catch-all.....
[03:19] <phunyguy> instead they should ask in a proper support forum.
[03:19] <phunyguy> if that is not IRC< so be it :)
[03:19] <phunyguy> s/</,/
[03:20] <BerenBarahir> I askeed this in the kubuntu channel with no response: How do you install ttf-mscorefonts-installer using the command terminal?
[03:20] <IdleOne> BerenBarahir: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[03:20] <somsip> phunyguy: not sure how to word that in a way that doesn't sound like a suggestion then. I'll just get them to clarify the full question here without assuming it is not directly ubuntu-support related
[03:21] <phunyguy> somsip: it is perfectly OK to not answer a support question if you don't know the answer.  ;)
[03:22] <IdleOne> somsip: it is a little tough to judge sometimes. Try keeping in mind that although many of the users in -offtopic are very knowledgeable, they are in -offtopic because they don't feel like doing support and often times will be less than helpful
[03:22] <IdleOne> always polite of course, but yeah...
[03:22] <somsip> phunyguy: I do try to point people in the right direction when I'm in the mood, rather than leaving the question unanswered. I'll just stop referring them to -offtopic. Easy enough
[03:23]  * ObrienDave is in OT because idle chat is not allowed here ;P
[03:23] <phunyguy> IdleOne: well said, thank you.
[03:23] <somsip> IdleOne: k - makes sense
[03:23] <phunyguy> alright everyone!  Back to support!
[03:23] <IdleOne> :)
[03:24] <somsip> Geo: (sorry - you got lost in the mix) AIUI, ubuntu uses upstart, end of story. So that's what you're using if you have a vanilla install.
[03:26] <emoji> how fix -- > persian subtitle in mplayer disjointed?
[03:27] <Geo> ok
[03:27] <laurinop> h
[03:28] <BerenBarahir> Does this command mount any hard drives?  ...sudo mount -o remount /
[03:28] <Geo> I currently only know of how to do large, bulky init.d scripts. I'm reading that there is a way to do just service.conf files, and have upstart run those from there? Does that sound right?
[03:29] <somsip> Geo: have you followed that link in the factoid I sent initially? I think it takes you to some information about this eventually
[03:30] <Geo> I'm reading that and other pages... just trying to condense what I'm reading, versus what I've done previously
[03:30] <somsip> Geo: then I'll leave it to an upstart expert to reply
[03:31] <Geo> ie, the /getting-started.htm off that talks about creating jobs (.conf files)
[03:31] <HikaruBG> lookie lookie :) Ubuntu question: the result of "hostname -d" is home.network... the question is: How to change it!?
[03:31] <HikaruBG> :)
[03:31] <Geo> I've done the start-stop-daemon route
[03:31] <somsip> HikaruBG: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/change-hostname-ubuntu1404/
[03:32] <somsip> Geo: but read the comments as the guide is...sketchy
[03:33] <Geo> but this all comes back to my previous question- what am I using?
[03:33] <Geo> service foo start
[03:33] <Geo> start foo
[03:33] <Geo> whats the difference?
[03:33] <Geo> start foo is clearly upstart, what is service start foo?
[03:33] <somsip> Geo: sorry - that comment was meant for HikaruBG
[03:34] <somsip> HikaruBG: but read the comments as the guide is...sketchy
[03:35] <Geo> ok, so service foo start is still using sysvinit.
[03:35] <Geo> if I'm using ubuntu, i'm not necessarily using upsart then :)
[03:37] <somsip> Geo: if so, then my understanding is flawed and previous advice might have been wrong
[03:37] <Geo> it seems start foo is upstart; service foo start is sysvinit.
[03:41] <yousirwin> What's the best beginner guide?
[03:42] <ObrienDave> you're in it LOL
[03:43] <yousirwin> :)
[03:43] <somsip> !manual | yousirwin
[03:43] <yousirwin> thank you!
[03:47] <BerenBarahir> I can't find the Compholio version of wine use Google searches
[03:47] <BerenBarahir> Is there still a Compholio version of Wine?
[03:47] <moondog> cornholio?
[03:48] <HankMccoy> does he need TP?
[03:48] <BerenBarahir> I think I downloaded the wrong version of Wine.  I downloaded wine-1.5.22.tar.bz2
[03:48] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, this took me 5 seconds to find. https://launchpad.net/~ehoover/+archive/ubuntu/compholio
[03:48] <BerenBarahir> Crap, I need TP for my bunghole
[03:49] <HankMccoy> does anyone know about adblocking software I can put on my samsung smart tv?
[03:49] <Bashing-om> BerenBarahir: Maybe : sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio , ??
[03:49] <HankMccoy> another guy in another room said I might need to get a different OS for it
[03:50] <moondog> BerenBarahir: nice one!
[03:51] <Bashing-om> !info wine
[03:53] <joshuasm32> Is there a way to receive notifications for a large program like Thunderbird without it being open and without using as much RAM?
[03:56] <joshuasm32> I tried to find a good extension for it, but none seem to exist.  I was hoping that there is a solution within the OS...
[03:59] <Legomonkey> Hi everyone
[03:59] <rainbowwarrior> hello Legomonkey
[04:02] <HikaruBG> is there a way to test ubuntu exim4 mail service from the terminal?
[04:08] <BerenBarahir> I added the ppa:ehoover/compholio as a software source, but I'm still having trouble finding and installing wine-compholio
[04:08] <rainbowwarrior> BerenBarahir : did you do :- sudo apt-get update after adding new ppa ?
[04:09] <BerenBarahir> no, I used the other command
[04:09] <somsip> BerenBarahir: and what was that?
[04:09] <BerenBarahir> pipelight-multi
[04:10] <BerenBarahir> sudo apt get istnall install recommends pipelight-multi
[04:10] <somsip> BerenBarahir: do the update that rainbowwarrior posted
[04:11] <BerenBarahir> ok
[04:11] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine-compholio
[04:11] <BerenBarahir> ok
[04:12] <rainbowwarrior> Is it just me or does anyone elses Acer V5 571P laptop seem to hate Ubuntu ? :(
[04:14] <BerenBarahir> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:14] <BerenBarahir>  wine-compholio : Depends: wine-compholio-i386 (= 1.7.26~ubuntu14.04.1) but it is not installable
[04:14] <BerenBarahir> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[04:16] <BerenBarahir> Some packages could not be installed. ...if you are using the unstable
[04:16] <BerenBarahir> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[04:16] <BerenBarahir> or been moved out of Incoming.
[04:18] <BerenBarahir> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[04:20] <BerenBarahir> Any ideas what went wrong based on the results I posted here?
[04:21] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine-compholio:i386
[04:21] <somsip> BerenBarahir: but this is why PPAs aren;t supported...
[04:21] <ObrienDave> you might have to install multi-arch
[04:21] <joshuasm32> Bump
[04:21] <BerenBarahir> I got a 64 bit processor
[04:21] <ObrienDave> so?
[04:21] <BerenBarahir> i386 will still work?
[04:22] <ObrienDave> yes
[04:23] <maurer> BerenBarahir: 1.) i386 will still work, 2.) Most windows games need to be run in 32-bit mode, thus the installation of an i386 version of wine
[04:25] <BerenBarahir> E: Unable to locate package wine-compholio
[04:25] <BerenBarahir> Is this because I am running Kubuntu 14.04 off a live CD?
[04:25] <BerenBarahir> Are they accessing my hard drives?
[04:26] <joshuasm32> Is there a way to receive notifications for a large program like Thunderbird without it being open and without using as much RAM?  I tried to find a good extension for it, but none seem to exist.  I was hoping that there is a solution within the OS...  I am somewhat weary to give my credentials to a program, even if it is open-sourced.
[04:26] <joshuasm32> *To a mail notification program
[04:27] <BerenBarahir> Which version is 14.04, is it Trusty?
[04:27] <BerenBarahir> I can't find Kubuntu 14.04 in the package list for Wine Compholio
[04:29] <gr33n7007h> Does anybody have wirless card that has the RTL8188EUS chipset working on ubuntu?
[04:29] <tejas-manohar> hey guys
[04:29] <tejas-manohar> im trying to use unity tweaker
[04:30] <tejas-manohar> and i keep getting packages that are missing, online everyone says use missing recommended in synaptic and install all of those
[04:30] <BerenBarahir> Do I need to download Wine-Compholio before I install it?
[04:30] <tejas-manohar> um how exactly do you use this, ive been searching this program, oh how i miss the command line
[04:31] <wordsmith> what all the init helps in ?
[04:32] <tejas-manohar> hey guys so has anyone used synaptic
[04:32] <BerenBarahir> How do I find and install multi-arch, ObrienDave  ?
[04:32] <tejas-manohar>  basically need to install "missing recommended" packages not included in apt-get install -f
[04:33] <BerenBarahir> Would Synaptic Package Manager help me install Wine-compholio as opposed to the Muon Software Centre?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> BerenBarahir, same repos = same outcome
[04:35] <mystogan> how to remove xubuntu completely?
[04:35] <BerenBarahir> What does multi-arch do?  Could that help me install Wine-Compholio?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | mystogan
[04:37] <mystogan> ubottu,cfhowlett,wats the diffnce between lubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:37] <joshuasm32> yeah i use synatpic
[04:37] <joshuasm32> great program
[04:37] <ObrienDave> !multiarch
[04:37] <joshuasm32> lol
[04:37] <cfhowlett> mystogan, lubuntu = ubuntu + lxde desktop environment.  kubuntu = ubuntu + kde
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !flavors | mystogan
[04:37] <joshuasm32> I guess there is no solution to my problem?
[04:37] <joshuasm32> :/
[04:38] <mystogan> cfhowlett, does lubuntu work fast?
[04:38] <ObrienDave> they all work as fast as your computer allows
[04:38] <BerenBarahir> I am still having trouble installing wine-compholio
[04:39] <cfhowlett> mystogan, lubuntu is optimized for older and lower spec hardware.  xubuntu also flies quite well.  I've found xubuntu to be quite nice on my 2009 laptop.  YMMV
[04:39] <mystogan> ubottu,cfhowlett which is the best for programming and for students?
[04:39] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, sudo apt-get install multi-arch
[04:39] <ObrienDave> BerenBarahir, sudo apt-get install wine-compholio:i386
[04:41] <joshuasm32> OK, bye.  D:
[04:41] <mystogan> cfhowlett, which is the best for programming and for students?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> mystogan, "best" = no such thing.  recommended perhaps.  it depends on what they're learning/doing.  See the dell sputnik packaging for ideas ... http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3687.software-dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition
[04:41] <BerenBarahir> Reading state information... Done
[04:41] <BerenBarahir> E: Unable to locate package multi-arch
[04:42] <cfhowlett> mystogan, and you can add those packages to any buntu you want
[04:42] <BerenBarahir> ARe these problems related to the fact that I am running a live CD and my hard drives are not mounted?
[04:42] <ObrienDave> !find multiarch
[04:42] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: why are you doing everything on a live cd and what are you trying to accomplish overall? when i left for work you were trying to install google chrome with little success, and i come back and you're having problems still
[04:42] <ObrienDave> !find multi-arch
[04:43] <BerenBarahir> I rebooted and successfully installed Google Chrome
[04:43] <BerenBarahir> Now I am trying to get Netflix working
[04:43] <Ben64> why on a livecd
[04:43] <BerenBarahir> by installing Pipelight
[04:43] <mystogan> cfhowlett, my laptop is new,So need of lubuntu right?
[04:44] <Ben64> mystogan: find what you like and use it
[04:44] <BerenBarahir> Because last time I installed Wine on my real OS, I had multiple problems
[04:44] <ObrienDave> !find add-architecture
[04:44] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: are you the guy from a couple weeks ago that insisted that wine broke the os
[04:44] <BerenBarahir> and I had to format my drive and reinstall my whole OS
[04:44] <cfhowlett> mystogan, here's an easy way to test:   sudo apt-get install xfce4 kd3 lxde             then, logout/choose a different DE/login and test.  If you find a preference, consider add that flavor's DE-desktop
[04:45] <BerenBarahir> Yes
[04:45] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: you're just making it harder for yourself. wine can't do what you've described
[04:45]  * ObrienDave *shakes head, grumbles, mumbles profanities, and walks away*
[04:45] <mystogan> cfhowlett,what does it do?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> mystogan, ... "it" ... ???
[04:46] <BerenBarahir> It worked the last time I tried it, but I was not running a live CD
[04:46] <cablop> i need to run some ubuntu virtual machines, but i don't want to waste resources
[04:46] <BerenBarahir> and the PC I was using was old.  This is a newer and faster PC, so I figure Netflix will run faster
[04:47] <cablop> what are the minimal requirements of ubuntu?
[04:47] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: you'll have much more success if you do things on your actual os
[04:47] <BerenBarahir> this PC uses NVIDIA graphics, so Netlfix should run smoother
[04:47] <Ben64> !requirements | cablop
[04:47] <mystogan> cfhowlett, sudo apt-get install xfce4 kd3 lxde?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> mystogan, that command will install those 4 desktop enviroments (DE).  then you can test to see if you have a preference other than unity
[04:48] <BerenBarahir> Netflix works on WIndows XP, but it's not secure.  I want to run it using ubuntu instead
[04:49] <mystogan> cfhowlett, after testing will i be able to uninstall those which i dont  want?
[04:49] <cfhowlett> mystogan, sudo apt-get purge DENameHere          (NOT unity, however)
[04:50] <mystogan> ok cfhowlett ,thanks a lot
[04:50] <cfhowlett> mystogan, happy2help
[04:50] <BerenBarahir> How do I locate the package multi-arch, is it in my E: drive?
[04:50] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: it isn't a package, and there is no such thing as an E: drive
[04:51] <BerenBarahir> Kubuntu says there is a package called multi-arch but it can't locate it
[04:51] <BerenBarahir> multi-arch was successfuly installed
[04:52] <BerenBarahir> but Kubuntu cannot locate it
[04:52] <Ben64> its not a program or a package
[04:53] <BerenBarahir> I keep getting the same problems from E: unable to locate package.....
[04:54] <BerenBarahir> E: Unable to locate package multi-arch
[04:54] <BerenBarahir> E: Unable to locate package wine-compholio
[04:55] <BerenBarahir> Where are these packages (or files) located?
[04:55] <BerenBarahir> May be I just need to change my directory?
[04:59] <BerenBarahir> What about that wine package I installed, wine-1.5.22.tar.bz2, should I try extracting it somewhere or installing it?
[05:01] <Ben64> BerenBarahir: stop doing whatever you're doing, install ubuntu, and install wine the normal way, we cannot help or support you in doing things manually
[05:09] <tejas-manohar> does oh my zsh install zsh? im on ubuntu 14.04
[05:18] <kudakwashe> i'm having a problem with the repo domain not resolving when i: sudo apt-get update ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8324526/ )
[05:19] <kudakwashe> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[05:20] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, change mirrors
[05:21] <CarlFK> kudakwashe: what does host show you?  here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8324546/
[05:21] <kudakwashe> /etc/apt/sources.list ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8324547/ )
[05:22] <kudakwashe> CarlFK: Host zw.archive.ubuntu.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[05:23] <ObrienDave> kudakwashe, it's just a mirror error. change to a different mirror
[05:23] <kudakwashe> the problem might be the ISP hosting the ubuntu mirror in zimbabwe works best with thier ISP, i use one that probably routes my traffic through South Africa, the UK, then back to Zimbabwe
[05:23] <CarlFK> ObrienDave: sounds more like dns problem than mirror
[05:23] <kudakwashe> with their ISP the route goes straight to the mirror
[05:23] <kudakwashe> ObrienDave: what mirror should i change it to
[05:24] <ObrienDave> kudakwashe, which ever one works ROFL
[05:24] <kudakwashe> ObrienDave: I think I'll try the South African mirror
[05:24] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, *biting tongue*
[05:25] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, SMDH
[05:25] <Guido1> Hello, I'm tryinng to remap a key - 107 / Print to "Menu". Somehow the remap like http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices seams to work, but the function of the key is non
[05:25] <ObrienDave> !crosspost | Guido1
[05:26] <kudakwashe> the local ZW mirror sometimes blocks traffic from outside of Zimbabwe, so even if you're in Zimbabwe, but your ISP's traffic leaves Zimbabwe before coming back,you canbe blocked
[05:27] <CarlFK> kudakwashe: traceroute 197.155.77.2 - how many hops?  19 for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/8324561/
[05:27] <ObrienDave> so glad i live in the US
[05:27] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, I'm in china ... mirrors are the SINGLE thing that is not blocked by the Great Chinese Firewall
[05:28] <kudakwashe> ObrienDave: I am so glad that I don't live in the US
[05:28] <kudakwashe> ObrienDave: I did live in Vancouver for ten years though, which I loved
[05:28] <cfhowlett> note to the world --- Vancouver is NOT in the USA ...
[05:28] <Abhijit> which files and folders to delete to have complete new flesh mysql when reinstalled?
[05:28] <kudakwashe> I know that, i was saying i prefer Canada
[05:28] <kudakwashe> to the USA
[05:28] <Abhijit> how about some ubuntu related discussion?
[05:29] <CarlFK> kudakwashe:  this might work: put this line in /etc/hosts 197.155.77.2 zw.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <squinty> i am a canadian ubuntu user who lives on vancouver island just across the water from vancouver    :P
[05:29] <Abhijit> :-(
[05:29] <Abhijit> which files and folders to delete to have complete new flesh mysql when reinstalled?
[05:29] <CarlFK> it will fix  Host zw.archive.ubuntu.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) - which I think is the problem that needs fixing
[05:31] <kudakwashe> squinty: i lived in yaletown in vancouver's west end - i spent four years at the Unversity of British Columbia ( long commute to school every day though but i loved it )
[05:31] <kudakwashe> downtown west end
[05:31] <kudakwashe> i should say
[05:35] <finrod> How do you restart an OS when your whole screen freezes except the cursor?
[05:35] <kudakwashe> CarlFK: that fixed my problem - why though?
[05:35] <kudakwashe> i need to understand what changed
[05:35] <cfhowlett> !reisub | finrod,
[05:36] <kudakwashe> CarlFK: I mean adding 197.155.77.2 zw.archive.ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts
[05:36] <kudakwashe> how did that fix it
[05:36] <Church> finrod: also sometimes it's just X11/gui that frozen, and you sometimes can switch to console then, login there and reboot from there
[05:37] <CarlFK> kudakwashe: some how the dns server you are using isn't serving an IP for zw.archive.ubuntu.com - typically your ISP's dhcp assigns a dns server to you, which may be your router/gateway if you are using one
[05:37] <Church> finrod: eg. try ctrl+alt+f1(f2,f3.. back to X11 is usually +f7 or f8)
[05:38] <kudakwashe> CarlFK: thanks
[05:39] <kudakwashe> CarlFK: that was definately the problem, thanks
[05:40] <CarlFK> anyone know how to tell what dns is being used?  ever sense /etc/resolv.conf got nameserver 127.0.1.1 I have been confused
[05:43] <somsip> CarlFK: dig reports that, but it might not be the detail you want
[05:43] <CarlFK> somsip: dig reports 127.0.1.1, which to me is a lie ;)
[05:43] <somsip> CarlFK: hence my warning :)
[05:48] <Ben64> nkaxeaavpqkprjsk: stop that
[05:56] <lnmnt1> Pressing the power button on my ThinkPad X220, would the shutdown dialogue be triggered by acpid or logind?
[05:58] <Caitanya> hi, i have group admin and want to all files made by users in the group irk to belong to group admin. how do i do it ?
[05:59] <somsip> CarlFK: in a specific directory, or everywhere?
[05:59] <somsip> Caitanya: ^^
[05:59] <Caitanya> in /home only
[05:59] <Caitanya> and subfolders etc..
[06:00] <Caitanya> now it creates files owner:irk
[06:00] <Caitanya> and admin group users dont have access to those files then
[06:01] <somsip> Caitanya: if it was one specific directory, you could 'chmod g+s {directory}' then anything created in there has the same group as the directory that has been chmodded. That's awkward to explain. Try it in a test dir and see if it's what you want. You might need chmod -R to do all subdirs too
[06:01] <Caitanya> somsip: thnx
[06:01] <kudakwashe> is Caitanya a hindi name?
[06:01] <kudakwashe> sorry, off topic
[06:01] <Caitanya> kudakwashe: yes
[06:02] <lnmnt1> Pressing the power button on my ThinkPad X220, would the shutdown dialogue be triggered by acpid or logind?
[06:02] <kudakwashe> wasn't Caitanya the founder of the Vaishnava sect of hinduism? ( or was the name used before that )
[06:02] <Caitanya> Caitanya is the incarnation of Krishna as a bhakta, who lived his live devoted to God-Awareness fully
[06:02] <kudakwashe> sorry, really off topic now
[06:02] <somsip> kudakwashe: you know it's OT so do it elsewhere please
[06:02] <Caitanya> kudakwashe: many ways in hindu-systems
[06:02] <Caitanya> kudakwashe: Brahman=root
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !ot
[06:03] <Caitanya> sry
[06:03] <kudakwashe> yeah i don't want to become a hindu (i'm an atheist) but i am interested in language ( and ubuntu, love ubuntu)
[06:03] <kudakwashe> :-)
[06:05] <kudakwashe> !guidelines
[06:06]  * rainbowwarrior edits the guidelines and adds : all female ubuntu users 18+ must date rainbowwarrior  :P
[06:06] <explodes> hey. installing ubuntu on a fresh PC, new HDD.
[06:07] <explodes> Do I need to do an "OEM install" ?
[06:07] <somsip> !girl | rainbowwarrior (show some maturity please)
[06:07] <explodes> Because a regular install says something about how no installable medium was found
[06:07] <cfhowlett> explodes, OEM install is if you are preparing the computer for another user, i.e. you are the OEM in question.  just install as a normal user.
[06:07] <explodes> my bios detects my disk but
[06:07] <explodes> ubuntu doesn't seem to find the drive
[06:08] <explodes> even though it gets listed under /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST093409203[whatever]
[06:08] <cfhowlett> explodes, I'm guessing you might need to configure drivers for the new HDD
[06:08] <explodes> I have never had to do that, where could I read about that
[06:08] <cfhowlett> explodes, try this: boot your live ubuntu and run gparted to prep the HDD
[06:08] <kudakwashe> 16 is the age of consent in zimbabwe, and we have a lot of cuties from all races: africa, caucasian, indian, mixed race, asian etc... unfortunately i'm married now so....
[06:09] <somsip> kudakwashe: stop now.
[06:09] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, " I love ubuntu" ... but you sure don't respect it. stop your nonsense now.
[06:09] <kudakwashe> yes sir!
[06:09] <somsip> kudakwashe: you know you keep going offtopic and you pretend you're repentent.
[06:09] <rainbowwarrior> somsip : interesting stuff ty :o)
[06:09] <explodes> cfhowlett: just format the drive?
[06:09] <explodes> and set up my partitions?
[06:09] <somsip> rainbowwarrior: we strive to improve ourselves and others in this channel
[06:10] <cfhowlett> explodes, *guessing* that the driver comes unformatted and may need some preparation to be usable.  GUESSING
[06:10] <rainbowwarrior> somsip :o)
[06:10] <explodes> kk
[06:10] <nusr> i love ubuntu
[06:10] <nusr> now need virtualmachine
[06:10] <kudakwashe> i love ubuntu gnu/linux
[06:10] <cfhowlett> !virtualbox | nusr,
[06:11] <explodes> cfhowlett: the first stackoverflow response says to use a USB 2.0 slot
[06:11] <nusr> had to reinstall ubuntu though after i installed python3.4 and idle3
[06:11] <CarlFK> explodes: : even though it gets listed under /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST093409203[whatever]  .. where do you see that?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> explodes, OK
[06:11] <nusr> messed up dkpg
[06:11] <explodes> cfhowlett: i dont know if i have any XD
[06:12] <ggg> neutrino: ?
[06:12] <neutrino> exit
[06:12] <cfhowlett> nusr, one or your ports is likely usb2
[06:12] <explodes> oh no i have 2.0 slots
[06:12] <explodes> in fact i'm using one
[06:13] <ggg> neutrino: solved ?
[06:13] <nusr> the software center stopped working after i installed python3.4
[06:13] <neutrino> exit
[06:13] <nusr> error message said pycompile among other things not present
[06:13] <nusr> how does having usb2 affect that?
[06:13] <neutrino> exit
[06:14] <nusr> i've got ubuntu running fine now but i'm hesitant about installing idle and idle3
[06:14] <cfhowlett> nusr, sorry, meant that for explodes
[06:14] <nusr> nps
[06:16] <nusr> anyone know if virtualbox allows you to run all windows apps?
[06:16] <nusr> i've got a few that i need
[06:16] <nusr> and not supported by crossover
[06:17] <iceroot> hi
[06:17] <ObrienDave> nusr, depends on which win OS you want to use
[06:17] <iceroot> is it somehow possible to establish 2 vpn connections with network-manager (gui)? when one connection is up, the other one is grey and can not be seltected. is there a technical reason? is it not possible to have 2 vpn connectionsß
[06:18] <Caitanya> hmm, permission now, 664 for files would be nice
[06:18] <nusr> require xp ;)
[06:20] <Chiki> hola
[06:20] <ObrienDave> nusr, haven't used XP much in Vbox. seems to handle things ok
[06:20] <nusr> ok thanks
[06:20] <Caitanya> newly created file 660 ? now its 644
[06:20] <nusr> i'll try and see what happens
[06:21] <Caitanya> why cant there be a file for these in /etc
[06:21] <Caitanya> or am i just too dumb. i guess i am :)
[06:21] <kudakwashe> explodes: have you started yet
[06:22] <explodes> can't run gparted
[06:22] <explodes> can't even get to graphical mode without this "medium"
[06:22] <kudakwashe> explodes: isntall trisquel gnu/linux
[06:23] <kudakwashe> it's based on ubuntu gnu/linux
[06:23] <explodes> you mean debian?
[06:23] <explodes> or ubuntu
[06:23] <ObrienDave> oh no! not Samwise! ;P
[06:23] <kudakwashe> trisquel.info
[06:31] <ashadiqi> Hi everyone. Can i install Unity 2d on ubuntu 14.04?
[06:32] <riobe> Is this a place where I can ask why jsvc isn't finding my java home even though my $JAVA_HOME is set and "java -version" runs.
[06:32] <_joey> I have bluetooth speaker. I paired and connected it. Sound is not coming through bluetooth speaker. Could someone suggest or direct to a solution for this problem
[06:34] <explodes> ffs
[06:37] <riobe> I'm having a really hard time googling my way into how to make it find my java home. I'm trying to install hadoop for evalutation purposes  and though I'm sudo'ing the script, I had it echo $JAVA_HOME (which is set earlier) and it outputs a directory.
[06:38] <riobe> I'm guessing I'm doing something stupid in regards to setting things up so that sudo can run this script, but I don't know.
[06:39] <ObrienDave> explodes, what seems to be the issue?
[06:40] <explodes> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[06:40] <explodes> when attempting to install ubuntu
[06:40] <explodes> other people seem to think it is a USB 3 issue
[06:40] <ObrienDave> how are you trying to install?
[06:41] <explodes> USB
[06:41] <explodes> Disabling the USB 3.0 controller, I still encounter the same error. I get the purple Ubuntu loading screen, then it drops into a terminal with the error
[06:41] <ObrienDave> from the live USB desktop or from the opening prompt
[06:41] <explodes> opening
[06:42] <explodes> i cannot get to the live desktop, the same error comes up
[06:42] <ObrienDave> re burn the USB stick
[06:42] <ObrienDave> bad transfer. better yet, burn ISO to DVD
[06:43] <ObrienDave> I have rotten luck with USB installs
[06:43] <explodes> that feel when No Dvd Drive
[06:44] <ObrienDave> ok, reburn USB using unetbootin, linuxpendrive, etc. when at splash screen select "check disk contents"
[06:44] <explodes> The checksum on the ISO is good.
[06:45] <explodes> I am using unetbootin
[06:45] <explodes> Ah, ok
[06:45] <ObrienDave> that will tell you if you have a good stick to work from
[06:45] <explodes> I always wondered what that was for ;)
[06:45] <ObrienDave> now you know :)
[06:47] <squinty> explodes:  fwiw, over the last several days i have installed ubunut, lubuntu and xubuntu (all 14.04) on several machines here without any issues.
[06:47] <explodes> lucky bastard
[06:47] <squinty> explodes: using unetbootin that is
[06:48] <squinty> lol  :)
[06:48] <explodes> dang d00d
[06:48] <rainbowwarrior> Ubuntu don't like my laptop lol
[06:49] <artist> ola
[06:49] <explodes> what exactly does "check disk contents" do?
[06:49] <explodes> its not just an fsck is it?
[06:49] <explodes> olaola artist
[06:50] <explodes> whelp i guess i'm gonna have a late night
[06:50] <explodes> been building this pc since 6pm, it is not 1am
[06:50] <explodes> 1st PC that i actually built ; good times
[06:50] <ChaseTrains> guys, I have intellectual cravings. I don't know what it is, but it has something to do with dota 2. Any ideas what's going on?
[06:51] <talin> hello. i read that ubuntu is based on debian. what does ubuntu provide apart from what debian has?
[06:52] <ChaseTrains> different repo, mainly, and another community.
[06:52] <talin> ChaseTrains: repo for binary packages?
[06:52] <ChaseTrains> And Unity desktop. The rest are details.
[06:53] <ChaseTrains> talin: yes. Debian gets them from another server.
[06:53] <ChaseTrains> Ubuntu have their own server.
[06:53] <talin> ChaseTrains: aah, okay. thank you :)
[06:53] <ChaseTrains> so apt-get install some_software might give different versions.
[06:53] <rainbowwarrior> hey , anyone else here using an Acer laptop and having problems please ?
[06:53] <talin> ChaseTrains: i see
[06:53] <ChaseTrains> so another answer is politics too.
[06:54] <ObrienDave> no politics
[06:54] <ChaseTrains> since they decide what's on their repo (versions.. they want them all to fit with your current ubuntu install).
[06:54] <ChaseTrains> ObrienDave: "politics"
[06:55] <ChaseTrains> and as with all distros: they simply differ on some stuff.
[06:55] <CarlFK> talin: ubuntu gets new stuff sooner than debian.  which is both good and bad.
[06:55] <talin> aha, okay.
[06:55] <explodes> ObrienDave: Guess what;
[06:55] <talin> yeah, i've seen some extremely outdated stuff in debian
[06:55] <explodes> ObrienDave: Check Disk Contents: (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[06:56] <ObrienDave> explodes, i gave up mind reading ;P
[06:56] <ObrienDave> oh....
[06:56] <ObrienDave> that explains that. it's not making the stick bootable OR your bios is not setup to read it first
[06:57] <explodes> it is #1 on the boot list
[06:57] <ObrienDave> k
[06:57] <explodes> wait maybe it wasnt wtf
[06:57] <explodes> the order kind of seems to jump around
[06:58] <ObrienDave> *drums fingers waiting* lol
[06:58] <explodes> Does it matter if I boot with UEFI mode?
[06:58] <ObrienDave> umm, i think so. i don't do Win8
[06:59] <explodes> when I boot into the drive w/o UEFI, it says "insert a bootable media and press any key"
[06:59] <ObrienDave> is this going to be a dual boot system?
[06:59] <dandre> Hello,
[07:00] <explodes> eventually
[07:00] <ObrienDave> dandre, Greetings & Welcome
[07:00] <ObrienDave> explodes, what's on there now?
[07:00] <explodes> zilch
[07:00] <explodes> virgin HDD
[07:00] <riobe> When I call "sudo bash -x <script>" and within that script it does "exec jsvc <parameters>" why can't I see the call to jsvc even though I'm seeing some commands that aren't in my script at that call that I think are coming from jsvc?
[07:00] <dandre> Is there any way to install svn 1.6 and svn 1.8 on my ubuntu 14.04.
[07:01] <explodes> dandre: this answer sucks but, use git next time you make a reoi
[07:01] <explodes> *repo
[07:01] <ObrienDave> explodes, then we recommend you install Windows first
[07:01] <explodes> Yea its downloadin'
[07:01] <explodes> legally even
[07:02] <explodes> I'm just playing around in the meantime
[07:02] <explodes> i was thinking of installing it next week, so this isn't a total waste
[07:02] <dandre> I can use git because all my team uses svn
[07:02] <explodes> bring your team to heightened new levels of programming
[07:02] <explodes> lead them to salvation
[07:03] <ObrienDave> explodes, well, then you need a different USB stick. that one seems to be going wonky
[07:03] <riobe> dandre, Is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/205342/how-do-i-downgrade-to-subversion-1-6
[07:03] <riobe> explodes, forcing your team to git isn't always reasonable, regardless of whether or not it's a good move. Especially if it's a corporate team. Gotta love it.
[07:04] <explodes> ObrienDave: That could be the case, huh;. whack
[07:04] <explodes> Maybe I got some lying around
[07:07] <explodes> i swear i had a whole pile of those fukrs
[07:07] <explodes> i cant find any
[07:07] <explodes> above 1GB
[07:08] <explodes> Whelp I'll try the windows install, see if that works
[07:13] <helmut_> hi
[07:22] <neutrino--> hello helmut_
[07:22] <helmut_> hello
[07:22] <dandre> riobe: ok but with that llink I can downgrade to 1.6 and not use simultanously (for differents projects) 1.6 and 1.8
[07:24] <somsip> dandre: didn't something change in 1.7 that wasn't backwards compatible?
[07:24] <explodes> holy shit
[07:24] <explodes> nothing is working
[07:24] <somsip> explodes: stop the bad language please
[07:24] <explodes> 2frustrating 2furious
[07:25] <dandre> somsip: yes 1.7 and 1.8 svn clients can't work with 1.6 local copies
[07:26] <somsip> dandre: so what is your issue?
[07:27] <w1n5t0n> eae
[07:27] <vurma> Hmmm.. Anyone know of a way to create keyboard shortcuts to switch to a running program (say emacs or terminator) ?
[07:28] <luc4> Hello! Does ubuntu allows hard disks to go to stand by when not used?
[07:29] <somsip> vurma: explain how you want it to work
[07:29] <neutrino--> vurma: what window manager are you using ?
[07:29] <hawa> hello i cannot install anything from dpkg... previous error is blocking things...
[07:30] <neutrino--> hawa: it would help if you posted those errors
[07:30] <Fuchs> hawa: dpgk -f install
[07:30] <hawa> dpkg: error processing oracle-java7-installer (--configure):
[07:30] <hawa>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:30] <hawa> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of oracle-jdk7-installer:
[07:30] <hawa>  oracle-jdk7-installer depends on oracle-java7-installer; however:
[07:30] <hawa>   Package oracle-java7-installer is not configured yet.
[07:30] <hawa> dpkg: error processing oracle-jdk7-installer (--configure):
[07:30] <unopaste> hawa you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:30] <Fuchs> hawa: or pastebin the error
[07:30] <Fuchs> Mehr
[07:30] <Fuchs> *meh
[07:31] <neutrino--> new to IRC ? hawa
[07:31] <Fuchs> Oh, in that case dpkg-reconfigure, then the above
[07:31] <hawa> @neutrino yes
[07:31] <Fuchs> Both with either sudo or sudo -i before
[07:31] <vurma> somsip, i'll explain my setup. I have terminator running on one screen and emacs running on the other. I would like to be able to switch from one to the other without using my mouse between the screens.
[07:32] <dandre> somsip: I am working on 2 projetcs: one whose working copy is 1.6 and another whose working copy is 1.8
[07:32] <somsip> vurma: screen? You meen monitor or virtual screen/desktop
[07:32] <vurma> neutrino--, im using compiz atym
[07:32] <hawa> http://pastebin.com/B1uv1V82
[07:32] <vurma> somsip, sorry, yes, i meant monitor.
[07:32] <somsip> dandre: so you need to install two versions of svn? Or are you looking for another solution?
[07:32] <somsip> vurma: using unity?
[07:33] <vurma> somsip, yes.
[07:33] <vurma> Iv had this problem at the back of my mind for some time without doing anything about it ^^
[07:33] <somsip> vurma: are the monitors one big desktop, or separate?
[07:33] <dandre> somsip: so you need to install two versions of svn?
[07:33] <dandre> yes hat's it
[07:33] <Fuchs> Hawa: tried the dpkg-reconfigure and dpkg -f I gave you?
[07:34] <hawa> nope... i have been shut from any replies here...
[07:34] <vurma> somsip, they display the same desktop, yes.
[07:34] <neutrino--> that was for 60 seconds ..
[07:34] <somsip> dandre: given that >1.7 is needed to work with 1.8 and <1.7 is needed to work with 1.6 repos, I'd say it's likely
[07:34] <Fuchs> No, you only have been quieted.
[07:34] <somsip> vurma: ALT tab isn't it?
[07:34] <hawa> okie...
[07:34] <Fuchs> Anyway, try them. With sudo.
[07:34] <hawa> Fuchs: here is my pastebin
[07:34] <hawa> http://pastebin.com/B1uv1V82
[07:35] <Fuchs> Yes, seen that.
[07:35] <vurma> somsip, i want a program specific keyboard shortcut, not just the alt-tab.
[07:35] <viktor89> hey guys. Any recommendations on a backup/restore script/software for a webserver?
[07:36] <somsip> vurma: so back to where we started. Explain how you want it to work
[07:36] <somsip> viktor89: data only, or from scratch (all packages, etc)?
[07:36] <Fuchs> vurma: advanced window managers like kwin or fluxbox can do it, for others you might be able to use devilspie or script it with wmctrl
[07:36] <viktor89> somsip, i think data only is enough. What I usually want is to restore to a previous version of a website configureation
[07:37] <vurma> somsip, i want to be able to press a keystroke and make that switch from one specific program to another, for example between emacs and terminator
[07:37] <viktor89> but I should have backup of the whole shibang too, shouldn't I?
[07:37] <viktor89> it's for a high priority production server
[07:37] <somsip> vurma: with one key. I don't think that is going to happen unless you are mapping F keys which may not be a good idea.
[07:37] <viktor89> it is debian, but I figured it's not that far from ubuntu, that I could ask in here
[07:37] <vurma> Fuchs, would you recommend any of those too over compiz? I havent updated myself on window managers for quite a while ^^
[07:37] <hawa> Fuchs, what i am trying to do is install oracle jdk from a ppa. so there is no deb file.
[07:38] <vurma> somsip, Doesnt have to be one key. As i said: press a "keystroke".
[07:38] <somsip> viktor89: I'd suggest something like chef/puppet/salt. My preference is ansible. Build a script that rebuilds your server from scratch. But you will need offline backups or web apps or DB data too.
[07:38] <viktor89> yea, will take some time
[07:38] <Fuchs> vurma: compiz might be able to do it, check ccsm. If not: write a script with wmctrl, that should work
[07:38] <somsip> vurma: then stroke the ALT key, and while that was is stroked, stroke TAB too. Ignored...
[07:38] <viktor89> might hire somebody in for the task
[07:38] <vurma> Perhaps its an issue of me sticking with compiz when there are better window managers ^^
[07:39] <viktor89> thanks for the suggestions somsip. Do you have some good reads on a backup/restore server-structure I can read up on?
[07:39] <Fuchs> hawa: you don't need that for neither sudo dpkg-reconfigure nor for the other
[07:39] <hawa> okie...
[07:39] <vurma> somsip, im not ignoring your messages, but i want to be able to switch to a specific program that is running, using a specific keystroke.
[07:40] <vurma> Fuchs, cool! Will check wmctrl scripting.
[07:40] <hawa> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
[07:40] <somsip> viktor89: yeah - took me about a week per server. But worth doing IMHO, especially for a production server. No reads as such. I just piece together things from research I do
[07:40] <explodes> Maybe my UEFI/CSM settings are making the drive unavailable during installation
[07:40] <explodes> If I go UEFI Only across the board maybe I'll have better luck
[07:40] <Fuchs> vurma: set a specific window title, write a script to switch to that and the other, bind that script to a key,
[07:40] <explodes> The defaults seem to have mixed values
[07:41] <jponc_> xit
[07:41] <viktor89> thought there might be some best practice things on it. But the server is of high priority so I should probably expect a month or more in setup for htis :/
[07:41] <somsip> vurma: ...a key that has no use in the application you wish to swicth from...
[07:41] <Fuchs> There should be examples online, i only have my phone currently, which is a bit meh
[07:42] <vurma> Fuchs, i didnt know one could script for wmctrl ^^
[07:42] <vurma> somsip, obviously, yes.
[07:42] <sunshine_50> how are u
[07:43] <Fuchs> vurma: well, just a bash script using it
[07:43] <sunshine_50> is there honest friend
[07:43] <viktor89> ansible is deployment etc. too, somsip?
[07:43] <somsip> vurma: I'm intrigued. Which single keystroke will you use?
[07:43] <vurma> Fuchs, awesome.
[07:43] <Fuchs> Might need some grep magic to get the id of the window to activate, but certainly feasible
[07:44] <sunshine_50> salam
[07:44] <somsip> viktor89: can be. it's just a wrapper for avoiding lots of bash scripts. Works over ssh. Simple and standalone
[07:44] <Fuchs> Or just put these apps on dedicated workspaces and use the shortcuts for those,
[07:44] <Fuchs> Compiz can do that ootb
[07:45] <viktor89> is it opensource ?
[07:46] <somsip> viktor89: yes. Time to check the website rather than asking me things like that though
[07:46] <vurma> somsip, I havent used up any of the convenient ones that involve the function keys, for example.
[07:46] <viktor89> hahah, yea sorry somsip :)
[07:47] <somsip> vurma: fair enough. Hope you get it sorted, but seems complex when a standard shortcut exists. Your system though :)
[07:48] <viktor89> can you recommend a good free alternative to ansible, somsip? Or would that just be one of those other ones you mentioned?
[07:48] <somsip> viktor89: those other ones I mentioned
[07:48] <viktor89> ok, thanks :)
[07:48] <vurma> somsip, havent explored what bash+wmctrl can do for me yet, so that will be a fun Sunday afternoon with a can of coffee. ^^
[07:54] <sunshine_50> hhhhhhh
[07:55] <somsip> surfdue: do you have a support question?
[07:56] <Farioko> Hey, how do I exclude the dvd rom from lsblk? I have the -e option but what needs to be the value of that?
[07:59] <OerHeks> Farioko, see man lsblk :  Note that RAM disks (major=1) are  excluded  by  default.
[08:00] <Farioko> OerHeks: I checked the man page, nothing in there says what needs to be the value?
[08:00] <OerHeks> Farioko, no need to exclude, as i read it.
[08:01] <Farioko> OerHeks: What? It shows me the dvd burner, I don't want that.
[08:01] <Farioko> OerHeks: I'm writing a script where the user can pick a harddrive
[08:06] <Farioko> OerHeks: Any idea? :)
[08:07] <james0r> getting video tearing on youtube in google-chrome now, firefox is fine though. is this a flash support problem with newer versions of chrome and chromium?
[08:13] <BQ> can I skip language packs when installing ubuntu?
[08:13] <ObrienDave> yes
[08:13] <cfhowlett> BQ, of course.
[08:13] <bcvery1> My crontab has this line: "0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/bin/python ~/.i3/i3bg.py"   This works when run in terminal, but is not running from the crontab
[08:14] <somsip> bcvery1: ful path required to .i3?
[08:14] <bcvery1> somsip, I'll give that a try now
[08:15] <BQ> cfhowlett: how do i install 3 languages only? right now it seems it install all languages forever
[08:15] <somsip> bcvery1: FWIW */15 is just a bit neater :)
[08:16] <ObrienDave> BQ they can be selected in Synaptic after install
[08:16] <bcvery1> somsip, Good tip, thanks
[08:16] <bcvery1> somsip, Unfortunately the full path has not helped
[08:16] <BQ> ObrienDave: can I choose pre-install?
[08:17] <somsip> bcvery1: anything in i3bg.py that is using relative paths?
[08:17] <somsip> bcvery1: not relative...ENV-based paths
[08:17] <BQ> ObrienDave: when do I have to install all languages if not needed
[08:17] <ObrienDave> BQ, no. you get all or none
[08:17] <bcvery1> somsip, Nope, one path, and it's full
[08:18] <somsip> bcvery1: anything helpful in /avr/log/syslog?
[08:18] <somsip> *var
[08:18] <BQ> This is non-sense. it took just forever to install all of them.
[08:18] <ObrienDave> BQ, install your native language first. select the others after using synaptic or your favorite D/L manager
[08:18] <BQ> plus I cannot skip them during installation.
[08:19] <bcvery1> somsip, Ah!  Maybe: '(CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)'
[08:19] <somsip> bcvery1: that's just telling you there was an error. So the cronjob is firing
[08:19] <cfhowlett> BQ, they won't install if you don't select ...
[08:19] <BQ> this is definitely not right.
[08:19] <somsip> bcvery1: change the cronjob to >/tmp/cron_error.txt or something
[08:20] <ObrienDave> BQ, it's free ;P
[08:20] <cfhowlett> BQ, install 1 and add the additional languages is post-processing.
[08:20] <bcvery1> somsip, Change, or append the command?
[08:20] <somsip> bcvery1: append that so you get some output that might tell you the error
[08:21] <bcvery1> somsip, File created, is empty
[08:22] <somsip> bcvery1: oooer. Can you paste the content of i3bg.py?
[08:22] <BQ> cfhowlett: the default is insall all which is not right.
[08:23] <BQ> cfhowlett: plus it installs from internet which takes too long.
[08:23] <cfhowlett> bq the default IS NOT too install all!
[08:23] <cfhowlett> bq it will only install all if you select install all.
[08:24] <BQ> cfhowlett: I didn't select anything
[08:24] <cfhowlett> bq restart your installation.  pay close attention.
[08:24] <somsip> bcvery1: sorry - typo. Append " 2> /tmp/cron_error" instead
[08:25] <BQ> cfhowlett: how to stop and restart
[08:25] <bcvery1> somsip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8325465
[08:25] <bcvery1> somsip, Sure, will do that now
[08:25] <BQ> no buttons allow me to do that
[08:26] <somsip> bcvery1: a paste of i3bg.py, not your cronfile :)
[08:27] <BQ> there is a SKIP button previously but I clicked it disappeared and it does not work
[08:27] <bcvery1> somsip, Ooops, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8325473
[08:28] <BQ> it just keeps downloading.
[08:28] <somsip> bcvery1: and feh probably needs full path too
[08:28] <cfhowlett> BQ, reboot
[08:28] <bcvery1> somsip, cat /tmp/crontab_error: feh ERROR: Can't open X display.  It *is* running, yeah?
[08:29] <somsip> bcvery1: but it's not running under X.
[08:30] <somsip> bcvery1: not ubuntu, but this might help you as it has random background and feh cronjobs on it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/feh#Random_background_image
[08:30] <somsip> bcvery1: though it may be as easy as making it "DISPLAY=:0.0 feh..." in the python script
[08:31] <dobredansk> list
[08:32] <bcvery1> somsip, I'll give that a go - but it's running over three screens; may need more tweaking!
[08:32] <somsip> !list | dobredansk
[08:32] <somsip> bcvery1: something to do with the DISPLAY variable thought. I'll leave the details to you :)
[08:32] <bcvery1> somsip, ta muchly
[08:33] <somsip> bcvery1: np
[08:44] <six86> Hello. I have a preseeded ubuntu installation here. And since I use 12.04.5 instead of 12.04.4 after every installation I get some messages about packages (xubuntu-desktop for example) are not available. When doing apt-get update manually there are lots of "Hashsum mismatches"... This is the same after every new installation. How can i fix this?
[08:51] <deckard__> hello. how do i register a name so only i can use it?
[08:51] <somsip_> !register | deckard__
[08:51] <deckard__> ty
[08:51] <Mnemonic> Hi. All USB stopped working.. It seems I have trouble with modprobe. I get this error when trying to load modules.
[08:51] <Mnemonic> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:556 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.13.0-34-generic/modules.dep.bin'
[08:52] <Mnemonic> Any ideas?
[08:53] <neutrino--> sudo ?
[08:54] <pulung> hallo
[08:54] <pulung> aku lagi sepi nih
[08:55] <ObrienDave> pulung, greetings & welcome
[08:55] <pulung> yes ,
[08:55] <ObrienDave> !ti | pulung
[08:55] <pulung> hey, how are you today ?
[08:55] <somsip_> !id | pulung
[08:55] <somsip_> pulung: or English here :)
[08:56] <pulung> yes i know speaking english bro
[08:56] <ObrienDave> somsip_, dang, i did not recognize that one :)
[08:56] <n00bscr|pt> hello
[08:56] <pulung> yes, what do you gander ?
[08:57]  * ObrienDave shoots Google translate
[08:58] <somsip_> ObrienDave: I recognised sepi, but just googled the phrase to be sure
[08:59] <oppilas> es
[08:59] <oppilas> hi
[08:59] <ObrienDave> oppilas, greetings & welcome
[09:00] <oppilas> ok
[09:00] <oppilas> ok
[09:00] <oppilas> this is awesome
[09:00] <oppilas> hi guys
[09:00] <ObrienDave> LOL
[09:01] <ObrienDave> *poof* they're gone
[09:05] <shinigami69> Hi guys, bluetooth is not showing on top. How can I fix that pls..
[09:06] <somsip_> shinigami69: on top of what?
[09:06] <Cold> have you gone to settings & typed in bluetooth
[09:06] <shinigami69> on top with the other icons , sorry don't know what that's called..
[09:07] <shinigami69>  i tried turning it on with settings and it shows up but when ubuntu boots again it disappears and i have to go to settings again..
[09:09] <Cold> I'm not running bluetooth so I don't know if that's the way it is but I think it's suppose to remember your settings
[09:09] <Guido1> Hello, I'm tryinng to remap a key - 107 / Print to "Menu". Somehow the remap like http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices seams to work, but the function of the key is non
[09:11] <ObrienDave> Guido1, again? 5 times in 3 days?
[09:13] <ObrienDave> ubottu is being too nice
[09:14] <shinigami69> yes exactly, it doesn't do that in ubuntu 12.04
[09:14] <ObrienDave> rofl. i take that back
[09:15] <Fr0Zn> hello all
[09:15] <sudomatic> Fr0Zn: freeze!
[09:15] <ObrienDave> Fr0Zn, Greetings & Welcome
[09:17] <amae> guys help me.. how to create partition in ubuntu 14.04 primary or logical along side windws 7
[09:18] <Fr0Zn> start ubuntu in live cd then use gparted to create it and do a dualboot, then install ubuntu in that partition
[09:18] <Fr0Zn> amae: start ubuntu in live cd then use gparted to create it and do a dualboot, then install ubuntu in that partition
[09:18] <ObrienDave> amae, gparted will do that
[09:18] <Fr0Zn> amae: remember to install grub in main partition
[09:19] <ObrienDave> amae, sda NOT sda1, sda2, etc.
[09:19] <Fr0Zn> ObrienDave: yes
[09:20] <amae> Fr0Zn, im the middle of ubuntu installation now, i create swap atleast 2 gb but the remaining 40gb free space i just confuse if i choose primary or logical  in a new type partition
[09:20] <ObrienDave> primary
[09:21] <Guido1> ObrienDave: not realy - seams that the remaping now works, but somehow not the link to the function or that "menu" is nit defined well or so
[09:21] <ObrienDave> amae, you're allowed 4 primary partitions per disk
[09:21] <Fr0Zn> amae: 2 gb swap its ok use primary
[09:21] <reza> hi, i have change default file manager to dolphin, every thing works fine, except desktop icons wich is still opened with nemo
[09:21] <amae> ObrienDave, how about a uses as?
[09:21] <ObrienDave> amae, ext4
[09:22] <ObrienDave> amae, mount as /
[09:22] <amae> ObrienDave, how about mount point?
[09:22] <Fr0Zn> amae : /
[09:22] <nimbus> is anyone familiar with FIshbowl Inventory Linux setup? I ran into some Java errors however, cannot locate the conf file to adjust settings for the server to broadcast
[09:23] <reza> nge default file manager to dolphin, every thi
[09:23] <reza> hi, i have change default file manager to dolphin, every thing works fine, except desktop icons wich is still opened with nemo
[09:23] <reza> hi, i have change default file manager to dolphin, every thing works fine, except desktop icons wich is still opened with nemo
[09:23] <amae> ObrienDave, Fr0Zn ---->thanks...
[09:23] <somsip_> !patience | reza
[09:23] <ObrienDave> amae, not a problem :)
[09:23] <Fr0Zn> amae: np we are hear to help
[09:24] <reza> sorry, i want to copy my question in diffrent rooms, i copied it again here
[09:24] <amae> ObrienDave, i have another question i check ext4 to install ubuntu ryt?
[09:25] <ObrienDave> yup
[09:25] <somsip_> nimbus: probably best aimed at fishbowl support. It doesn't look like something supported here
[09:26] <amae> ObrienDave, is that automatically along side in windows 7
[09:26] <deckard__>  hello. i removed the task bar from file system window. how may i get it back?
[09:26] <deckard__> menu ba*
[09:28] <deckard__> #join xubuntu
[09:28] <somsip_> deckard__: /join #xubuntu
[09:28] <deckard__> ty
[09:28] <gerozzz67> ciao
[09:28] <gerozzz67> !list
[09:29] <deckard__> kap somsip_
[09:29] <somsip_> deckard__: yin dee :)
[09:30] <deckard__> somsip_, saba de mai?
[09:30] <ObrienDave> amae, be careful with "along side" there have been problems with that setting. use "something else"
[09:32] <amae> ObrienDave, yah i choose something else and create swap and partion..
[09:32] <ObrienDave> very good :)
[09:33] <somsip_> demonspork: enough now. afk
[09:39] <nimbus> join
[09:40] <nimbus> hello, is anyone familiar with error? SEVERE: null
[09:40] <nimbus> java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
[09:41] <Tim100> what causes safe mode on android tablet?
[09:41] <nimbus> that can be a soft brick
[09:41] <DJones> Tim100: Probably a question for ##android (I think)
[09:41] <Huchman> Hello everyone how to extend VPN time out time .. I am connecting on cisco devices and using ciscoAnyConnect .. can anyone help
[09:42] <amae> ObrienDave, still there?
[09:44] <ObrienDave> yes
[09:45] <john_rambo> I once downloaded some 7zip files, after extracting them I found that the original files were huge ..... Now I need to backup some data but dont have enough space ..How do I achieve such high compression ?
[09:45] <Huchman> can anyone help?  how to extend VPN time out time ?
[09:45] <Sacrelicious> hey all. What do I need to do to be able to play a DVD in Ubuntu?
[09:46] <ObrienDave> john_rambo, re-zip them
[09:46] <ObrienDave> Sacrelicious, libcssdvd2
[09:46] <amae> ObrienDave, sucessfully intalled, i have a queztion if i factory reset my windows 7 do you think its ok with ubuntu 14.04 with no effect?
[09:47] <amae> ObrienDave, just incase my windows 7 corrupt?
[09:47] <ObrienDave> amae, NO that will kill the grub boot loader
[09:47] <[L]ight> amae: No.
[09:47] <Sacrelicious> ObrienDave, E: Unable to locate package libcssdvd2
[09:47] <ObrienDave> Sacrelicious, libdvdcss2
[09:47] <amae> ObrienDave, if that happen is there way to install grub boot
[09:48] <ObrienDave> amae, yes you can
[09:48] <Sacrelicious> ObrienDave, E: Package 'libdvdcss2' has no installation candidate
[09:48] <ObrienDave> Sacrelicious, just a sec, please
[09:48] <amae> ObrienDave, WOW! thanks
[09:48] <Sacrelicious> ObrienDave, allright. :)
[09:49] <Moranbong> Hello, im using ubuntu 14.04 template on a vps, tried to do ssh-keygen -t ecdsa, but it gave me unknown keytype ecdsa, OpenSSH_5.2p1, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
[09:49] <ObrienDave> Sacrelicious, libdvdcss2 has an install candidate
[09:49] <[L]ight> Sacrelicious: install libdvdread4
[09:50] <ObrienDave> Sacrelicious, sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[09:50] <Sacrelicious> libdvdread4 is already the newest version.
[09:51] <Sacrelicious> is what i get. I already installed it from a tarball.
[09:51] <amae> ObrienDave, i have extended monitor do i need software to install or its automatically configure?
[09:51] <[L]ight> Sacrelicious: After that, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[09:51] <ObrienDave> Sacrelicious, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[09:52] <[L]ight> amae: automatically.
[09:52] <ObrienDave> amae, use arandr (xrandr) to configure dual monitors
[09:52] <Sacrelicious> [L]ight, done. now what?
[09:52] <[L]ight> amae: go to system settings> screen display or use xrandr
[09:53] <amae> ObrienDave, yah i just turn on my monitor its great
[09:53] <Sacrelicious> ObrienDave, done. now what?
[09:53] <ObrienDave> amae, cool :)
[09:53] <[L]ight> Sacrelicious: Rebooting may be required. What media player are you using?
[09:53] <Sacrelicious> [L]ight, VLC.
[09:53] <[L]ight> Sacrelicious: Yeah should work.
[09:54] <riot> hmm, i'm getting security problems whenever i try to visit a cacert signed website. How can i fix it?
[09:54] <amae> ObrienDave, yah!cool im excited of my new os
[09:54] <Sacrelicious> [L]ight, K. I'm gonna reinsert the disc and see what happens.
[09:54] <ObrienDave> amae, glad you like it :)
[09:54] <[L]ight> Sacrelicious: if not give it a quick reboot.
[09:54] <Sacrelicious> [L]ight, Thank you. I'm going to reboot anyway. I will be back if I encounter any errors. Thank you for your help.
[09:54] <amae> ObrienDave, 100% ilike it..
[09:54] <Moranbong> ah got it, need to upgrade to latest openssh
[09:55] <ObrienDave> amae, \o/ YAY
[10:02] <OnkelTem> Apache + mod_fastcgi = headers doesn't work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapache-mod-fastcgi/+bug/1368308 Please confirm if you can reproduce
[10:02] <ikonia> are you talking about host headers ?
[10:03] <ikonia> as in apache host headers
[10:04] <OnkelTem> ikonia: it is about headers module which sets response headers. But in conjunction with mod_fastcgi it can't set ANY header
[10:05] <ikonia> the headers module ?
[10:05] <ikonia> what headers module ?
[10:05] <OnkelTem> apache ikonia, apache
[10:05] <ikonia> ah mod_headers you mean
[10:05] <OnkelTem> yep
[10:06] <ikonia> so host headers
[10:06] <ikonia> host headers works fine on their own, I don't see why fcgi would change that
[10:08] <OnkelTem> ikonia: me either, but this is what happens on my two separate machines, both 12.04, but one - desktop and another - server
[10:08] <OnkelTem> ikonia: if a request is processed by mod_fastcgi, then settings "Header set" makes nothing
[10:08] <ikonia> doesn't that depend
[10:08] <dude> :q
[10:09] <ikonia> eg: if you're using host headers you have to tell it to use fcgi in the virtual server config or it will just ignore hosst headers and use the "root" / "non virtual" site that fcgi is loaded into
[10:11] <ObrienDave> dang, hexchat can never decide if it wants to connect through VPN or not LOL
[10:11] <AlexPortable> Why would you use a hard link instead of a softlink?
[10:11] <amae> Status: updating.... :0
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: set the route to the irc server to go down the interface, it will then know
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: hard links dont break if the file you are linking to is deleted
[10:13] <OnkelTem> ikonia: I didn't say anything about "Host:" header :) I was talking about response headers
[10:13] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:14] <ObrienDave> ActionParsnip, not following you on that
[10:14] <amae> ObrienDave, what is the full screen ubuntu player version?
[10:15] <ObrienDave> amae, not sure. i'm on Xubuntu and like to use VLC for media
[10:15] <tirengarfio> after upgrading, when I start ubuntu I can see the login but I can not logged in since the keyboard and the mouse doesn't work, what can I do?
[10:15] <amae> ObrienDave, is that full screen in any movie or can strecth the image to full screen?
[10:15] <ObrienDave> amae, both :)
[10:16] <amae> ObrienDave, thank you so much ;o
[10:16] <tirengarfio> I would like to retrieve some data at least, any way to access to data on hard disk?
[10:16] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: huh, how so/
[10:16] <AlexPortable> so they take up disk space?
[10:17] <amae> ObrienDave, i almost forgot do i need firewall in ubuntu 14.04?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: no, the data is only stored once but the dta has 2 pointers to it. The file will exist as long as there is at least on e hard link to it
[10:18] <ObrienDave> amae, yes and no. there is a software version. UFW iirc
[10:18] <tirengarfio> any help? as I say before when I start ubuntu I can see the login but I can not logged in since the keyboard and the mouse doesn't work, what can I do?
[10:18] <amae> ObrienDave, ok thanks..
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: if you unplug and plug in the keyboard, does it come to life?
[10:19] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip: no
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: tried a different USB port, or USB keyboard?
[10:19] <tirengarfio> ok, wait
[10:19] <ObrienDave> amae, are you behind a router?
[10:19] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: i don't get it
[10:20] <AlexPortable> so symlink is like a shortcut
[10:20] <AlexPortable> but what is hardlink then?
[10:20] <ObrienDave> pointer
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: yes but if the last hard link is deleted, the symlink will show as 'broken'
[10:20] <amae> ObrienDave, what do you mean?
[10:20] <amae> ObrienDave, near at my router?
[10:20] <ObrienDave> amae, what is between you and the internet?
[10:20] <AlexPortable> ah
[10:20] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip: it doesn't work either
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: so, if you make a file, then make a hard link to the file, then delete the file you first made, the hard link will not be broken
[10:21] <jpds> OnkelTem: https://serverfault.com/questions/383011/mod-headers-not-sending-headers-when-file-is-php
[10:21] <amae> ObrienDave, im using wifi
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: think of yur files as a hard link to data on the drive itself
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: 1 file, 1 link
[10:21] <ObrienDave> amae, but there is a router between your computer ant the world, yes?
[10:21] <ObrienDave> *and
[10:21] <amae> ObrienDave, hehehe yes..
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: is the USB enabled in BIOS?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: you could also try setting the USB to legacy mode, to test
[10:22] <amae> ObrienDave, why? is there a problem for that?
[10:22] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip: I didn't touch bios at all, but I will check
[10:22] <ObrienDave> amae, then your router should act as a firewall
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: hard links must be on the same physical drive, wheras symbolic links can traverse drives
[10:23] <amae> ObrienDave, ah..ok its a service provider is that ok?
[10:23] <AlexPortable> ok
[10:23] <ObrienDave> amae, you are STILL connected to the router?
[10:24] <OnkelTem> jpds: no the case, I know how Header set work ;-)
[10:24] <amae> ObrienDave, yes im still connected..
[10:24] <AlexPortable> so hardlink costs more space?
[10:24] <amae> ObrienDave, do i need to change to wired connection?
[10:24] <gavin__> hello  everyone
[10:25] <ObrienDave> amae, nooooo, you're sitting at your computer, there is a wi-fi connection to the outside world, that connection SHOULD be like a firewall
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: the initial fie will use the space, the links to it cost nothing
[10:25] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: but, if you ask the link what size it is, it will report the thing linked to. Just like all the files on your system do now
[10:26] <amae> ObrienDave, ah... i get it :0
[10:26] <Delta706> is it worth reporting bugs in opera to the developers?
[10:26] <mahdi_ja> i have interl corei5 cpu laptop which version of ubuntu is useful for me and there is 64 bit version for interl cpu
[10:26] <ObrienDave> amae, the point is, your connection to the outside world needs to be setup as a firewall. if so, you don't need one on your computer. it can't hurt, but not necessary
[10:27] <amae> ObrienDave, you mean i dont need a firewall ryt?
[10:27] <mahdi_ja> i have intel corei5 cpu laptop which version of ubuntu is useful for me and there is 64 bit version for intel cpu
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> mahdi_ja: the amd64 will work on your Intel
[10:28] <amae> ObrienDave, if im going to the outside world and then i will need the firewall
[10:28] <ObrienDave> amae, if your router is setup properly, no. if you take your computer elsewhere, yes you need it
[10:28] <mahdi_ja> ActionParsnip, i am fedora user and kde desktop i download ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso can i install kde desktop on this
[10:29] <Wandip> Hello everyone, I have a huge problem with the sound on my  Ubuntu atm, After install it chose the HDMI by default, and now  ive gotten the speakers to work, but for some reason it cant  find the headset, Wich is weird, Also the mic is Sparkling like  hell, So im thinking its something with the chipset drivers.  Anyone know anything about this?
[10:29] <amae> ObrienDave, uhmmm...ok nw i know the purpose of the firewall
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> mahdi_ja: if you download kubuntu instead, you will get KDE instead of Gnome which is default in Ubuntu
[10:30] <AlexPortable> ah
[10:30] <amae> ObrienDave, thanks i learn a lot from you... :0
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> mahdi_ja: less bloat in the installed OS, you can install KDE in Ubuntu if you want but its a bit of a waste imho
[10:30] <ObrienDave> amae, i'm old. thanks, i do try :)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Wandip: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[10:31] <Wandip> sec
[10:32] <amae> ObrienDave, \o/ ;)
[10:32] <Wandip> no such file
[10:32] <Wandip> or directory
[10:33] <mahdi_ja> ActionParsnip, thank you
[10:33] <user123> hello guys, I have a little problem with resolv.conf and network-manager. Currently resolv.conf is showing 127.0.0.1 as nameserver (cause of dnsmasq usage probably). So I disabled dnsmasq by commenting the line on the nm configuration file, restarted nm but resolv.conf is still showing 127.0.0.1 instead of "real" dns servers. How can I solve? thank you very much
[10:33] <Wandip>  ALSA-Info v 0.4.63
[10:33] <Wandip>  ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
[10:33] <Wandip>     ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Wandip: copy the command and paste it into a termina and press ENTER
[10:33] <Wandip>     │ Uploading information to www.alsa-project.org ...                  │
[10:33] <Wandip>     │  ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐  │
[10:33] <Wandip>     │  │                               0%                             │  │
[10:33] <Wandip>     │  └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘  │
[10:34] <Delta706> user123: kill hup dns?
[10:34] <Wandip>     └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
[10:34] <Wandip>       
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Wandip: when the URL is generated, paste in the channel
[10:34] <Wandip>  ALSA-Info v 0.4.63
[10:34] <amae> im young and give respect to ObrienDave \o/ handsup..
[10:34] <Wandip>  ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
[10:34] <Wandip> ┌───────────────────────────Information uploaded─────────────────────────────┐
[10:34] <Wandip> │ Would you like to see the uploaded information?                            │
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Wandip: please dont paste like that
[10:34] <Delta706> Wandip: use a paste service
[10:34] <user123> Delta706, what do you mean?
[10:35] <Delta706> user123: find the process and hup it
[10:35] <Delta706> then it will read the config file
[10:35] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip usb is enabled on bios
[10:35] <user123> do you mean the dnsmasq process?
[10:35] <Delta706> yes
[10:35] <tirengarfio> I dont have any other keyboard, but as I say before neither the mouse nor the keyboard are working..
[10:37] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip: any other idea? or should I reinstall ubuntu??
[10:38] <darklessness> hello
[10:39] <theos> hi! what is is called when i want to install software from previous install to a new install?
[10:39] <ObrienDave> amae, thanks :)
[10:39] <darklessness> modify repos first then do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:40] <ObrienDave> darklessness,  UPDATE repos first :)
[10:40] <theos> i forgot the name. it stores all the program names in a text file and in the new installation you can install those
[10:41] <theos> i am doing a fresh install of 14.04 from 13.04 :D
[10:41] <bonorat> theos: told you.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> theos, backup and restore?
[10:41] <theos> erm
[10:43] <user123> Delta706: it didn't work :(
[10:44] <bazhang> !paste | Wandip
[10:44] <Delta706> user123: what exact command did you type?
[10:44] <user123> kill 1205
[10:44] <aoa> i can't mount internal sd and external sd storege my samsung phone on ubuntu , i need help
[10:44] <Delta706> not the right command
[10:44] <user123> 1205 is the dnsmasq pid
[10:44] <user123> :(
[10:45] <Delta706> kill -HUP xxxx
[10:45] <frosch> Hi! Is it possible to completely deactivate key stroke caputuring by unity? I'm using Intellij and most of the keyboard shortcuts interfer with Unity. I was using IceWM before which offers the possibility to press a key (ScrollLock) which deactivates keyboard capturing so that the app always gets the key.
[10:45] <amae> ObrienDave, how to install essentials in terminal
[10:45] <Delta706> I have used dnsmasq myself and HUP works
[10:46] <cfhowlett> aoa, plug in, set samsung usb mode to storage or camera. OR go the easy way and just use airdroid
[10:46] <darklessness> amae: what do u exactly want to install.. is it a gui?
[10:46] <Delta706> frosch: you can redefine the keyboard shortcuts
[10:46] <ObrienDave> amae, what essentials?
[10:47] <amae> ObrienDave, i mean vlc..
[10:47] <Wandip> bazhand, i honestly dont know why your so mad,
[10:47] <theadmin> amae: sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:47] <user123> Delta706: I tried kill -HUP but thre process is still running...
[10:47] <ObrienDave> amae, sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:47] <frosch> Delta706: so there is no easy way to deactivate all (temporary), right?
[10:47] <darklessness> theadmin: amae use aptitude search <package> first
[10:47] <theadmin> Aptitude isn't installed by default is it
[10:47] <theadmin> Use apt-cache
[10:48] <Delta706> user123: you want the process to be running. HUP just tells it to reread the config file which is what you want, right?
[10:48] <amae> thanks guys :o
[10:48] <ObrienDave> amae, you might also need, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-rectricted-extras
[10:48] <aoa> i use airdroid for transfer 2.2 gb mkv file but it very slow speed . i try cable connect but ubuntu / kubuntu recognize as camera even i select mtp mode on phone
[10:48] <user123> no, maybe I wrote something wrong: i just want NM to not use dnsmasq
[10:48] <Delta706> frosch: I do not know but I have used a tool to stop Alt key triggering stuff
[10:48] <cfhowlett> aoa, 14.04???
[10:49] <ObrienDave> aoa, you're rectricted to USB speeds
[10:49] <amae> ObrienDave, ok i will do that..
[10:49] <Delta706> user123: if you modify the config file appropriately, then dnsmasq will just pass the info through
[10:49] <cfhowlett> aoa, true ... usb speed is not known for rapid transfer
[10:49] <ObrienDave> *restricted
[10:49] <frosch> Delta706: do you remember the name of that tool?
[10:50] <Delta706> frosch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[10:51] <user123> Delta706: sorry, i'm not understanding... i followed these steps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233222/how-can-i-disable-the-dns-that-network-manager-uses
[10:51] <user123> what's wrong?
[10:52] <Delta706> did you do the sudo command?
[10:52] <hufnpuf> Hi, i just updated my ubuntu 14.04 and my rtorrent/rutorrent has stopped working. It give the error "jserror type error: a is null
[10:52] <user123> sure
[10:53] <Delta706> paste the conf file to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <theos> so does anyone remember what the feature is called? its used to store all the programs installed on the system in a file when moving to a fresh installation
[10:54] <user123> Delta706: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8326231/
[10:55] <bazhang> !aptoncd | theos this?
[10:55] <Istalantar> hi everyone, how can i change the colors of ls command. to be precise, i don't like the backgroud color for OTHER_WRITABLE
[10:55] <amae> ObrienDave, how to make my monitor just extender
[10:56] <Delta706> user123: I am out of ideas
[10:56] <theadmin|ghost> Istalantar: Follow this: http://linux-sxs.org/housekeeping/lscolors.html
[10:56] <theos> bazhang thanks. i am looking for another feature. it only stored names of packages. i might have to do it manually
[10:56] <ObrienDave> amae, use xrandr(arandr) not very familiar with it. it won't do what i want ;P
[10:57] <geirha> Istalantar: you make a .dircolors file
[10:57] <bazhang> !info apt-clone
[10:57] <user123> Delta706: ok guy, thank you anyway for your try and for your time! ;) i'll try something else!  ;)
[10:58] <amae> ObrienDave, is that from software center?
[10:58] <reversiblean> does ubuntu installer automatically creates subvolumes for @  and home when using btrfs as the file system?
[10:58] <Istalantar> theadmin|ghost: geirha: thanks, i'll try
[10:59] <theos> thanks bazhang
[10:59] <ObrienDave> amae, yes, standard repos
[10:59] <amae> ObrienDave, ok thanks..
[11:03] <yecril71pl> Hello, I have a problem with DNS resolver
[11:03] <nodejsnoob> hi guys, i am having trouble installing nodejs and npm on my ubuntu 13.10
[11:03] <yecril71pl> My domain name is company.local
[11:04] <cfhowlett> nodejsnoob, 13.10 is end of life and no longer supported here.
[11:04] <yecril71pl> and I can getent hosts git
[11:04] <yecril71pl> and it says git.company local
[11:04] <yecril71pl> but I cannot getent hosts git.company local
[11:04] <yecril71pl> Any hints?
[11:05] <yecril71pl> I cannot getent hosts git.company.local
[11:05] <nodejsnoob> cfhowlett, i know but i am sure it is something basic that should have the same solution on every ubuntu version
[11:05] <theadmin> nodejsnoob: 13.10 has reached end of support. Repositories have been taken down, you need to upgrade to 14.04.
[11:05] <nodejsnoob> ah
[11:05] <cfhowlett> nodejsnoob, "no longer supported" = upgrade to a supported version.
[11:05] <nodejsnoob> thank you.. i did not know that
[11:05] <ObrienDave> nodejsnoob, not taken down, moved to old-releases ;P
[11:05] <cfhowlett> nodejsnoob, 14.04.1 has 4.5 more years of support left
[11:06] <nodejsnoob> i am quite worried about upgrading because i have running production servers which i only have ssh access to
[11:06] <nodejsnoob> what is the best way to go about it?
[11:06] <yecril71pl> Note that dig works all right, nslookup works all right, only getent fails
[11:06] <innocent95> Hi
[11:06] <theadmin> nodejsnoob: Stick to version numbers like 12.04, 14.04, 16.04... those are LTS and are supported for 5 years (as opposed to 9 months for non-LTS)
[11:07] <cfhowlett> nodejsnoob, you have servers running with no security upgrades?
[11:07] <innocent95> can you get my messages?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> nodejsnoob, but this might be better addressed in #ubuntu-server channel -
[11:07] <nodejsnoob> i will try over there
[11:07] <nodejsnoob> thank you
[11:07] <cfhowlett> nodejsnoob, or ##linux
[11:10] <yecril71pl> What is mdns4_minimal?
[11:10] <Skizu> I get file could not be downloaded: php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known when ever I try to do sudo composer update any ideas how I can look into this issue??
[11:11] <ObrienDave> Skizu, sudo composer update, what???
[11:11] <yecril71pl> What is composer?
[11:12] <ObrienDave> Skizu, what are you trying to install?
[11:12] <Skizu> I'm using composer basically I think my network can't see out? But I don't know how to test or anything
[11:12] <ObrienDave> Skizu, easiest would be, sudo apt-get update
[11:12] <Skizu> ObrienDave: I use composer to handle app dependencies
[11:13] <ObrienDave> !info composer
[11:13] <Skizu> W: Failed to fetch http://...
[11:13] <ObrienDave> Skizu, so, i assume it's from a PPA? not supported here
[11:13] <smart_developer> Hi, does anyone know how to use the (1) vmstat, (2) iostat, (3) sar, utilities to be able to print out the date/time stamp with each iteration/output?
[11:14] <Skizu> ObrienDave: I can't do sudo apt-get update
[11:14] <ObrienDave> Skizu, what do you get when you try?
[11:15] <Skizu> W: Failed to fetch http://...
[11:15] <nodejsnoob> theadmin, i have tried other channels but there seems to be no activity on them. can you please direct me to a guide or something similar to safely upgrade my ubuntu version and keep it up to date with the latest security updates?
[11:16] <hufnpuf> Hi, i just updated my 14.04 system and now rutorrent has stopped working. It give the error jserror TypeError: a is null
[11:16] <hufnpuf> Any ideas?
[11:16] <Skizu> ObrienDave: http://pastebin.com/YTkfErG1
[11:16] <Guest6415> ObrienDave, howto adjust the minute of screensaver
[11:17] <theadmin> nodejsnoob: sudo do-release-upgrade is all you need to do
[11:17] <ObrienDave> Skizu, mirror error, select another
[11:17] <Skizu> How do I?
[11:17] <Skizu> ObrienDave: ^
[11:17] <ObrienDave> Guest6415, screensaver settings
[11:17] <eeee> smart_developer: you could run while (true); do date && vmstat && sleep <delay here>; done
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Wandip: you arent using ubuntu
[11:17] <nodejsnoob> i remember reading somewhere that doing it over ssh is unsafe. is that the best way to do it?
[11:17] <ObrienDave> Skizu, software & updates
[11:18] <Skizu> Using ssh
[11:18] <ObrienDave> WHAT? WHERE? who's not using 'buntu? ;P
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: Wandip is not using ubuntu....
[11:19] <Skizu> I mean, I've no GUI
[11:19] <Guest6415> ObrienDave, where can i find it?
[11:19] <Skizu> Guess I'll just try rebooting it xD
[11:20] <ObrienDave> ActionParsnip, oh, the post troll ;P
[11:20] <eeee> smart_developer: watch -n <delay> vmstat , would automatically display the date, you could remove the delay as well
[11:20] <eeee> ( the difference from the while command would be that it clears the screen every time )
[11:21] <ObrienDave> Guest6415, i use Xubuntu. don't know wherr your screensaver settings are :)
[11:21] <ObrienDave> *where
[11:21] <Guest6415> ObrienDave, im using ubuntu 14.04
[11:21] <ObrienDave> Guest6415, i use Xubuntu. I don't know where your screensaver settings are :)
[11:22] <ObrienDave> Guest6415, look under settings, probably
[11:23] <Skizu> Thanks for being less than helpful
[11:23] <ObrienDave> Skizu, more that welcome for free ;P
[11:23] <ObrienDave> *than
[11:24] <InsaneReality> Hi, I am trying to use Software Updater on Ubuntu 14.04. I selected only some of the updates that I wanted to install out of all available, but still it is trying to download all and install them. Is there a way to avoid that?
[11:24] <VictorCL> hi how can I make ubuntu show the datetime on the modified columns when navigatin trhough files on the GUI
[11:25] <VictorCL> in modified only shows the date but not the time
[11:25] <ObrienDave> VictorCL, settings, file manager, date and time settings
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: ls -l    in a folder, should do it
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: in gui, not so sure
[11:26] <Luyin> InsaneReality: why do you want to disable some of the upgrades? that's not recommendable
[11:26] <ObrienDave> VictorCL, settings, file manager, date settings
[11:26] <niceman> i have a weird problem. in my Terminal, sometimes it just closes itself after i try to execute a command
[11:26] <niceman> for example
[11:26] <niceman> im doing
[11:26] <niceman> ls -a
[11:26] <niceman> and it works
[11:26] <niceman> and then i do again
[11:26] <unopaste> niceman you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:26] <theadmin> InsaneReality: If some of the updates you selected need some others, then they will install as well.
[11:26] <VictorCL> ObrienDave,  will check thanks
[11:26] <ObrienDave> niceman, please DON'T use enter for punctuation
[11:27] <jackzou> hi
[11:27] <foldart> !enter
[11:27] <InsaneReality> Luyin: It was an update for something that I was going to uninstall in a day or 2, so that's why I didn't want to update it
[11:27] <jackzou> ubuntu is nice
[11:27] <ObrienDave> foldart, fall ubottu cleaning LOL
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> jackzou: its alreet
[11:28] <niceman> sorry
[11:28] <hufnpuf> Id like some help diagnosing my issue with rutorrent/jquery/gninx
[11:28] <niceman> one line: i have a weird problem. in my Terminal, sometimes it just closes itself after i try to execute a command. for example, im doing "ls -a" and it works fine. and then i'm doing "ls -a" again and it get closed.
[11:28] <niceman> :)
[11:28] <ObrienDave> InsaneReality, so, does not hurt to update anyway
[11:28] <foldart> ObrienDave: It's been a while. Not sure what's there. :-)
[11:28] <InsaneReality> theadmin: I don't think anything I am selecting is dependent on what I have not selected, but I understand your point
[11:28] <geirha> Istalantar: Did you figure out how dircolors work? had to go away right after I answered, so I didn't get a chance to add a follow-up explanation
[11:29] <ObrienDave> foldart, caught all of us by surprise a few weeks ago also :)
[11:29] <InsaneReality> ObrienDave: Yes it does, since I am on a limited data plan atm
[11:29] <ObrienDave> InsaneReality, ok, gotcha
[11:29] <smart_developer> eeee: Thanks!
[11:30] <Istalantar> theadmin: i followed that guide you posted about lscolors, it works perfectly fine, but i have a question: when i add those line at the bottom of .bashrc and after that type 'echo $LS_COLORS' in terminal it only gives me one thing i added in .bashrc .. how can the terminal still have the other colors right, if they arent in this Variable anymore?
[11:30] <theadmin> Istalantar: They are probably defined via /etc/environment or some similar thing
[11:30] <Istalantar> geirha: i followed the guide from theadmin, and edited .bashrc
[11:30] <geirha> Istalantar: Ok, the dircolors approach is "easier".
[11:31] <InsaneReality> It's just something that should not happen, like if I am not selecting an update, don't install it. Otherwise why is there an option to select them anyway
[11:31] <niceman> any one got an idea? :(
[11:32] <Istalantar> geirha: does the dircolors thing set it for every user at once .. because the .bashrc approch i would have to change it for every user?
[11:32] <geirha> Istalantar: ''dircolors -p > ~/.dircolors''  this writes the default colors in a more human readable fashion to ~/.dircolors. You edit that file to change the colors you want, and it gets parsed and turned into an LS_COLORS variable by the default ~/.bashrc
[11:33] <geirha> Istalantar: So you'd have to remove the manual LS_COLORS variable you added yourself
[11:33] <geirha> Istalantar: Both only changes it for one user
[11:33] <Istalantar> geirha: okay, thanks
[11:33] <InsaneReality> Okay, anyway I tried again, and it seems third time was the charm, and it only updated the ones I selected. Thanks for trying to help guys :)
[11:34] <geirha> Istalantar: If you want all new users to use your changed colors as default, you can copy the resulting .dircolors file to /etc/skel/
[11:34] <reza> hi how i can make dolphin as default file manager in cinnamon
[11:35] <reversiblean> does ubuntu installer automatically creates subvolumes for /  and home when using btrfs as the file system?
[11:35] <vurma> ujmbtg6fpoiuq,l.7-
[11:35] <reza> how i can make dolphin as default file manager in cinnamon?
[11:36] <geirha> vurma: cool, and what's the corresponding username? ;P
[11:36] <hufnpuf> Hi, id like some help diagnosing my problem with rutorrent/nginx/jsquery which broke since my last update.
[11:36] <ObrienDave> oooooooo, password sharing time???? ;P
[11:37] <foldart> reza: Instructions here look OK: http://saurab.com.np/set-dolphin-as-default-file-manager-in-cinnamon-gnome
[11:37] <BluesKaj> reza, does cinnamon have default apps settings somewhere ?
[11:38] <tumppu_> hi
[11:40] <gnugster> is there anyone who could help me set ubuntu-router eth1=wan eth0=lan wlan0=lan
[11:41] <gnugster> problem is that: i dont know how to get internet working on wlan0, clients can connect and get ip
[11:41] <gnugster> from router dhcp
[11:46] <validus> hello
[11:46] <ObrienDave> validus, Greetings & Welcome
[11:47] <validus> whatdo u do?
[11:47] <gnugster> me?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !ics | gnugster
[11:50] <gnugster> ty for ansvering ubottu
[11:51] <[L]ight> It's a bot...
[11:51] <ObrienDave> gnugster, thank the one who sent ubottu the ! command ;P
[11:51] <ObrienDave> gnugster, read up :)
[11:56] <gnugster> yea i know ;D
[12:00] <boris1> Q: I recently installed ubuntu on my laptop and I get a message on the start screen saying some about the swap drive not conected or something like that   is this normal
[12:02] <ObrienDave> boris1, something like drive "not mounted"?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> limited attention span there
[12:04] <ObrienDave> i guess, and howdy LOL
[12:06] <titos> hi i have a fujitsu siemens and installed lubuntu 14.04.1 but i cant find my wifi card
[12:06] <titos> can someone help?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> titos, look for network manager
[12:13] <mossy_> Im Back
[12:14] <mossy_> hacks schools internet'
[12:14] <mossy_> :D
[12:15] <ObrienDave> summer over already? *rolls eyes*
[12:15] <BluesKaj> yup, frost here last night
[12:17] <ObrienDave> snow in South Carolina yesterday? somewhere like that
[12:18] <killabyte0> .net
[12:19] <BluesKaj> snow in Calgary yesterday and lots
[12:21] <ObrienDave> way too early in the year for NA snow
[12:22] <titos> hi i have a fujitsu siemens with lubuntu 14.04.1 installed but i doesnt detect my wifi card
[12:22] <dvrr> warning the partition is misaligned by 3072 bytes this may result in very poor performance partitioning suggested  how can i resolve please guide me
[12:22] <titos> any solutions?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> which wifi card, titos ?
[12:23] <titos> the internal
[12:24] <hufnpuf> Hi, id like some help diagnosing my problem with rutorrent/nginx/javascript which broke since my last update.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> titos, run, sudo lshw | grep network and pastebin the output
[12:25] <BluesKaj> oops wrong command titos , sudo lshw -C network
[12:27]  * BluesKaj has another coffee to wake up a bit more
[12:28] <titos> http://pastebin.com/jdNNptUG
[12:31] <titos> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/jdNNptUG
[12:38] <BluesKaj> titos, yes it doesn't show the wifi chip only that it is turned on ...try iwconfig
[12:40] <titos> lo        no wireless extensions.
[12:40] <titos> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> titos, pastebin the output of Ifconfig
[12:44] <titos> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/s94507D0
[12:48] <BluesKaj> titos, ok last resort, lspci
[12:49] <titos> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/9hUuCJ0V
[12:52] <BluesKaj> hmm , no network controller , usually the wifi nic, looks like your wifi isn't recognized at all
[12:52] <BluesKaj> titos, ^
[12:53] <titos> so? i wont have wifi?
[12:56] <titos> BluesKaj, so? i wont have wifi?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> titos, look up your laptop on the maker's site and find out which wifi chip it uses, so we can figure which driver to install
[12:58] <pavillon> perche' non funziona la ricerca di qbittorrent su ubuntu 14.04 quali impostazioni?
[12:59] <Cuppa_coffee> !it
[13:03] <AndChat732081> Gggg
[13:03] <Caramoan> Hello everyone
[13:06] <Caramoan> guys my wobbly effect in compiz is not there help me..
[13:07] <nodejsnoob> i am gonna upgrade my ubuntu version from 13.10 to 14 LTS on a production server
[13:07] <nodejsnoob> i do not want to be locked out of my server that is protected by key file. should i accept password authentication and maybe some other stuff i dont know of before upgrading?
[13:11] <jasabella> hi :)
[13:12] <reversiblean> Is it okay to use an archive mirror that has the status 'last update unknown'?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> reversiblean, I wouldn't ...
[13:12] <jasabella> i'm looking at htop and wondering why i have multiple processes that are identical, is there a way to remove these duplicate processes and save RAM perhaps?
[13:13] <jasabella> there's like 4 or 5 of everything?
[13:15] <reversiblean> cfhowlett: all the mirrors close to me are 'last update unknown' though :)
[13:16] <cfhowlett> reversiblean, best/fastest mirror is not necessarily the one close to you.  I'd suggest you test for best mirror
[13:17] <reversiblean> cfhowlett: ok, thanks
[13:23] <raratata> hi
[13:24] <ggg> hello
[13:24] <pompeii> hello everyone, is there a linux/foss application as an alternative to have all social accounts at one place?
[13:25] <ikonia> pompeii: there are web applications (not local) that allow you to combine multiple social platforms into a single feed/tool
[13:25] <cumana> hello, I'm trying to build-dep for banshee, and apt complains that 'Installed package libgpod-cil-dev is too new', what can I do? do I have to look for an older version and try to downgrade, or can I somehow force apt to install deps?
[13:25] <pompeii> ikonia, are they foss platformsß
[13:25] <pompeii> ?
[13:25] <ikonia> pompeii: they are web applications
[13:26] <pompeii> yes, there are a number of them, if you mean the commercial ones.
[13:28] <Posalaa> Hello. I am aware this isn't really an Ubuntu question, but I am desparate. I am totally unfamiliar with command line programs. I installed Coreutils on Windows and I managed to run DD from command prompt, but I don't know what to type in order to process a file and I cannot find any examples.
[13:28] <eeee> what do you mean by process a file?
[13:28] <Posalaa> Point to a file in command promp.t
[13:29] <eeee> in the dd command?
[13:29] <ikonia> pompeii: try taking it to ##windows
[13:29] <ikonia> pompeii: oops, sorry
[13:29] <ikonia> Posalaa: please take it to ##windows
[13:30] <Posalaa> I tried and waited for couple hours, but no one responded. DD, yes.
[13:30] <ikonia> Posalaa: it's not for this channel, sorry
[13:31] <Posalaa> OK.
[13:31] <ikonia> Posalaa: you waited 20 minutes in ##windows,
[13:31] <ikonia> Posalaa: I'd suggest trying to be a little more patient
[13:31] <Posalaa> I tried yesterday also.
[13:31] <eeee> Posalaa: try ##linux since it's a dd command issue
[13:32] <Posalaa> It doesn't let me send a message there.
[13:32] <Posalaa> It says I am not voiced, whatever that means.
[13:32] <eeee>  /nickserv register <password> <email>
[13:32] <eeee> you have to register your nickname
[13:32] <ikonia> Posalaa: you're not even in the channel
[13:32] <Posalaa> OK, thank you.
[13:33] <ikonia> Posalaa: I suggest joining #freenode and asking for help on how to use IRC if you're not sure
[13:33] <hufnpuf> Hi, id like some help diagnosing my problem with rutorrent/nginx/javascript which broke since my last update.
[13:33] <Posalaa> I was a couple of minutes ago. :)
[13:33] <Posalaa> Using Freenode webchat.
[13:37] <holymac_> herro, what are some cool things to do with a homeserver?
[13:37] <ikonia> holymac_: whatever you want,
[13:37] <cfhowlett> holymac_, multimedia  streaming server
[13:37] <ikonia> holymac_: it's going to be personal to what your needs and requirements are
[13:37] <cfhowlett> holymac_, or set up a steam game server
[13:39] <holymac_> im just wondering what other people are doing
[13:39] <holymac_> right now im running a web server
[13:39] <ikonia> holymac_: best advice is work out what would benifit you, then ask how to do that specific thing
[13:40] <ikonia> rather than ask what other people are doing, as what they are doing/how they do it, may not be suitable for your setup
[13:40] <hufnpuf> I was running rutorrent until the last Ubuntu update killed it. Any chance i could get some help with that please?
[13:40] <ikonia> find a need and work out (with help if needed) how to achieve that
[13:40] <jasabella> does aptitude why list all reasons why a package is installed or only the first reason it finds?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !server | holymac_,
[13:41] <horriblecoders> holymac_, a NAS is usually useful if you have extra storage lying around.
[13:43] <amr> is anyone aware of the synaptic parameter to configure how sensitive the touchpad should be to "clicks" ? im finding mving my mouse triggers a click action
[13:45] <BQ_> what is difference between apt-get update and upgrade?
[13:45] <Daekdroom> BQ_, update refreshes the repository and package informations. upgrade downloads newer versions of packages.
[13:46] <Daekdroom> You have to do update before upgrade in order to be up to date. Not doing update regularly might even lead to errors when trying to upgrade or install new packages.
[13:48] <Cuppa_coffee> does ubuntu's build in updater do the update/upgrade routine or are there programs that need manual updating?
[13:49] <eeee> Cuppa_coffee: if you installed the program manually ( via compiling from source or the likes ) then you'd need to update it yourself
[13:50] <Cuppa_coffee> ok, thanks.
[13:53] <RJackson> Hey, does anyone know what logs I should be looking at to figure out why my unity isn't loading when I log in?
[13:54] <eeee> RJackson: does the guest account work?
[13:55] <warsoul> can i install ubuntu on my mac?
[13:56] <Roq999> Yes
[13:56] <RJackson> eeee: Nope :c
[13:56] <BQ_> Daekdroom: so update does not install actually. only upgrade install packages. right?
[13:57] <ikonia> yes
[13:57] <Daekdroom> correct.
[13:57] <eeee> RJackson: did you install anything before it happened?
[13:57] <Shariff> Hi there
[13:57] <eeee> RJackson: these are the Xorg logs, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:57] <Shariff> I just connected a USB device to my ubunbu (server) box. how do I check if the system actually sees something there?
[13:58] <eeee> Shariff: lsusb will list usb devices
[13:58] <eeee> Shariff: sudo parted -l, will show disks and partitions
[13:58] <RJackson> eeee: I had installed things on September 4th, but I had used the laptop many times since without issue.  The last thing I can recall doing, before it broke, was just using it for some regular web browsing, and closing the lid on my laptop before it had fully shut down (which I've done before without problem :\)
[13:59] <Shariff> thanks! and is there also such a command for serial ports? :D
[13:59] <Shariff> Yay.. my arduino was found :D
[13:59] <RJackson> eeee: I have also installed things since it stopped working, upgrades and such, in the hope it would fix it
[13:59] <BQ_> Daekdroom: warning during update http://dpaste.com/20VP0VZ
[14:00] <eeee> RJackson: anything interesting in the Xorg.0.log ?
[14:01] <rants> i need to create a contain folder for dogie shit downloaded from torrents any sugestions?
[14:02] <RJackson> eeee: I don't think so, there are no error entries, and I can't spot anything immediately suspect. Here it is if you want to have a quick look: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/85b92266283fa66b487b
[14:02] <eeee> Shariff: no idea sorry
[14:02] <Shariff> No worries.. I have the arduino listed on the lsusb.. now I need to find the right address to give to my python script )
[14:02] <Caramoan> guys help me, what is the best video editor for ubuntu 14.04
[14:03] <cfhowlett> Caramoan, nope
[14:03]  * Shariff has never worked with ubuntu and serial communication.. have NO clue how serial ports look on linux
[14:03] <eeee> Caramoan: openshot is nice
[14:03] <cfhowlett> Caramoan, "best" is subjective.  how would WE know what is best for you?
[14:03] <hufnpuf> I think ive been here a couple of hours. Can i get some help please?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> Caramoan, do some research, do some testing and decide for yourself.
[14:03] <debuser> hi, i wanted to install ubuntu 4 a homeserver and the machine doesnt displays anything after login
[14:04] <Caramoan> eeee, ok i try is this good for birthday edit video :o
[14:04] <cfhowlett> debuser, login and you get black screen?
[14:05] <Caramoan> cfhowlett, im just comparing base on your exprience
[14:06] <cfhowlett> Caramoan, cinelerra for prosumer video editing power. openshot / kdenlive for casual editing
[14:06] <debuser> it shows the default background but nothing else and in textmode it displays chinese looking characters
[14:06] <cfhowlett> debuser, screenshot?
[14:06] <BQ_> Daekdroom: does upgrade cross major ubuntu versions?
[14:06] <Caramoan> cfhowlett, ok i try thanks
[14:07] <Daekdroom> BQ_, it doesn't upgrade to a different Ubuntu version (like from 13.10 to 14.04), no. Neither does apt-get dist-upgrade. As for the errors you see, I'm not sure of why it happens.
[14:08] <debuser> the machine runns a amd athlon 1600 something and one GB ddr ram, i guess gpu drivers
[14:10] <debuser> its about 10-15 years old
[14:10] <cfhowlett> debuser, I'm guessing that unity doesn't like your "legacy" hardware.  run a terminal?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> or boot into command line?
[14:11] <debuser> everything works until i install x
[14:12] <foued> hi
[14:12] <kzoo> has anyone been able to get a bluetooth headset (a2dp) working in ubuntu 14.04?
[14:13] <foued> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[14:13] <cfhowlett> foued, ask your ubuntu questions
[14:14] <reversiblean> what is Ubuntu's equivalent of journalctl?
[14:16] <BQ_> Daekdroom: so I have to reinstall new major ubuntu manually. That is not good I guess
[14:16] <debuser> i want to use this machine as headless slave pc 4 doing my homeworks in lazarus 4 school
[14:16] <Daekdroom> BQ_, you can upgrade to a new Ubuntu version through Ubuntu's Update Manager, which is a GUI, or 'do-release-upgrade' in the command line.
[14:17] <Caramoan> hey! guys, what is your live stream link?
[14:18] <debuser> bye
[14:18] <BQ_> Daekdroom: so after do-release-upgrade, the ubuntu version will be changed to new release?
[14:19] <Pici> Caramoan: For ubuntu on air? dunno, check http://ubuntuonair.com
[14:19] <hufnpuf> Do I need to beg for help?
[14:19] <Daekdroom> BQ_, if you go through the entire process, yes. It can take awhile.
[14:19] <cfhowlett> hufnpuf, 1. state your issue.   2. be patient
[14:19] <Caramoan> Pici, tahnks..
[14:20] <mac_u> guys  to install oracle in ubuntu any help?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> hufnpuf, for instant answers, purchase a support package from canonical.
[14:20] <hufnpuf> Ive sat here waiting patiently for hours
[14:20] <Pici> hufnpuf: also try providing more information in your questions.
[14:20] <genii> mac_u: Oracle makes many things, what product specifically?
[14:21] <BQ_> Daekdroom: upgrade  in this way should be faster than re-install since there should have a lot in common
[14:21] <cfhowlett> hufnpuf, see those thousands of lines above. do you REALLY expect anyone to go back and find your issue?  or would you perhaps restate it, as requested...
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !detail | hufnpuf
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !details | hufnpuf
[14:22] <hufnpuf> Here is the issue. I updated ubuntu 14.04 and my rutorrent stopped working. It gives the error jquery.js typerror: a is null
[14:22] <hufnpuf> Thats what shows up on the webpage after i type in the user name and password
[14:23] <cfhowlett> hufnpuf, that's a java error.  only one website is giving this error?
[14:24] <hufnpuf> I only serve one page
[14:24] <hufnpuf> My rutorrent
[14:24] <BQ_> Daekdroom: is the update manager updating in background, prompt me every morning?
[14:24] <Daekdroom> BQ_, well, it should be faster mostly because you're sure you're keeping your configuration and all the apps you installed by yourself. Regardless, it's recommended you make a backup before upgrading to a new ubuntu version.
[14:24] <ikonia> isn't rutorrent not in the repos
[14:24] <ikonia> it's an external package as I recall
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !info rutorrent
[14:25] <hufnpuf> The one in the repos is very old
[14:25] <ikonia> I walked through this with someone a few weeks ago
[14:25] <ikonia> hufnpuf: you've got the tar file then I guess
[14:25] <hufnpuf> Yes
[14:25] <Daekdroom> BQ_, if it prompts you every morning, yes it should be doing the apt-get update job.
[14:25] <ikonia> yeah, I worked through this with someone a good few weeks ago
[14:25] <cfhowlett> hufnpuf, suggest you use a torrent from the repos.  3rd party stuff not supported here.  ask rutorrent for guidance.
[14:25] <ikonia> it won't "just work"
[14:26] <hufnpuf> Its not in the repos and its the only app that does what i need
[14:26] <ikonia> isn't deluge capable of the same thing ?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> hufnpuf, then you should talk to them
[14:26] <BQ_> Daekdroom: that is kind of annoying. can it set silently or update every week unless I need to update manually?
[14:27] <hufnpuf> Ikonia no. The plugins give more granular control in rutorrent
[14:27] <ikonia> I don't believe thats true
[14:27] <ikonia> I've seen pretty specific control in deluge
[14:27] <ikonia> down to the individual torrent level
[14:27] <ikonia> but if you like it better, that's your call
[14:27] <ikonia> but it doesn't just "work" on 14.04
[14:29] <cfhowlett> hufnpuf, support options:   https://rakshasa.github.io/rtorrent/
[14:29] <s2013> im trying to free some space in my hd.. can id elete stuff in the .cache folder?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> s2013, yes.   sudo apt-get clean
[14:29] <BQ_> Daekdroom: so basically ubuntu is not rolling release, unlike gento or arch linux
[14:29] <cfhowlett> s2013, and sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:30] <hufnpuf> Ive already posted my issue on the rutorrent forums. No luck. Also, this happened after an ubuntu update. They are gonna tell me its an ubuntu issue
[14:30] <ikonia> BQ_: the release process is changing
[14:30] <Daekdroom> BQ_, Yes. Through the Update Manager you can access its settings. In the "Upgrades" tab (which should come up automatically, I think), you can set it to search for updates daily, every two days, weekly, bi-weekly or never.
[14:30] <s2013> cfhowlett, do you know how to add more hd space if im on vmware
[14:30] <Daekdroom> (and no, it's not rolling-release)
[14:30] <cfhowlett> s2013, I don't know vmware. sorry.
[14:30] <s2013> i ran the apt-get clean and it only freed up like 20 mbs
[14:31] <s2013> but cache syas its around 322mb
[14:31] <s2013> actually i dont think it freed up anything
[14:31] <s2013> i did apt-get clean and autoremove
[14:31] <s2013> do i need to run something now?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> s2013, df -H
[14:31] <s2013> yeah
[14:31] <s2013> i mean it didnt free up anything
[14:33] <s2013> can i just remove the whole .cache folder manually
[14:34] <cfhowlett> s2013, not recommended.
[14:34] <gansteed> how to change the wallpapper in unity-greeter?
[14:34] <gansteed> *wallpaper*
[14:35] <s2013> my cache still shows 322 MB cfhowlett
[14:35] <s2013> what about .config?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> s2013, those would be your program settings - kill it if you want to reset everything
[14:35] <gansteed> I'm using Xmonad, I can't change wallpaper in lightdm
[14:35] <s2013> hmm ok
[14:36] <cfhowlett> s2013, clean /Downloads and /Documents
[14:36] <s2013> how do i clean it
[14:36] <s2013> like you mean delete it?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> s2013, open and delete contents
[14:36] <s2013> i have files there i need
[14:36] <s2013> yeah i did that
[14:36] <s2013> they are like total 200mb or so
[14:37] <hufnpuf> Ok, well thanks for your help
[14:37] <cfhowlett> s2013, and delete game saves / especially steam.
[14:37] <s2013> i dont have any games
[14:37] <s2013> i use ubuntu for development  mostly
[14:37] <s2013> my main os is windows i have lots of hd space in there
[14:38] <s2013> but when i originally set up ubuntu i didnt allocate that much space for it
[14:38] <cfhowlett> s2013, you dual boot? you can re-allocate space with gparted
[14:38] <s2013> no i use vmware
[14:39] <cfhowlett> s2013, ah! right.
[14:39] <s2013> i thought i could change it easily. boy was i wrong
[14:39] <s2013> so it only had 20gb which i think was default
[14:39] <cfhowlett> s2013, :)
[14:39] <floridsdorf> hi
[14:40] <cfhowlett> s2013, ubuntu/ubuntuserver or what?
[14:40] <s2013> ubuntu
[14:40] <kthur> hi
[14:40] <Ray_mond> How can I install Fedora? I don't want lost Ubuntu!
[14:40] <blackangelpr> s2013, dejadup back up and re install ? :)
[14:40] <cfhowlett> Ray_mond, virtualbox + ubuntu, put fedora in a bo
[14:41] <s2013> might have to
[14:41] <cfhowlett> box
[14:41] <s2013> but i wonder ifthere  is a better way
[14:41] <Ray_mond> cfhowlett: okay thx :)
[14:41] <mohank> hi all. Some help from power users... I'm upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 via update manager, but it seems stuck. The window is responsive, but has been at the same status for quite long now. it says "10 minutes remaining" in the "installing the upgrade" tab. The status which is shown is "Configuring mplayer thumbs"
[14:42] <mohank> the last update on the terminal was "Downloading Dropbox... 100%"
[14:43] <mohank> is there something I can do? Or should I abort the upgrade?
[14:44] <blackangelpr> mohank, until i know upgrade goes from 11 -12 and so on its better to do fresh install you can back up then fresh install and restore your doc, photos etc etc etc
[14:45] <blackangelpr> mohank,  so from 10.04  -> 12.04 quite lots of upgrades :p
[14:45] <mohank> blackangelpr: yeah...
[14:46] <mohank> blackangelpr: I liked 10.04, and am running awesome window manager, so the changes to the UI didn't affect me much
[14:46] <blackangelpr> mohank, also you have 14.04 its LTS works perfectly no need to stay on 12.04
[14:46] <blackangelpr> i see
[14:46] <mohank> blackangelpr: yes, I was upgrading to 12.04 en route to 14.04
[14:47] <mohank> blackangelpr: any ideas on if there's anything I can do to nudge the upgrade along? It's been running for close to two hours now, and it's almost done. It's a bummer that it's stuck now...
[14:48] <pompeii> hello, can I properly use gwibber in its new form (renamed as friends app) on 12.04.?
[14:48] <pompeii> often it refers to 12.10. and later
[14:48] <cfhowlett> mohank, there's a terminal command to let you view the install operation in progress but I don't it ...
[14:49] <mohank> oh, it's got something to do with dropbox I think...
[14:49] <mohank> when I type in "ubuntu upgrade stuck", Google suggests "ubuntu upgrade stuck on dropbox"
[14:49] <blackangelpr> progress bar?   http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/how-to-enable-apt-terminal-progress-bar
[14:50] <LyndsySimon> I've got an Ubuntu machine where I have a user account which is in the sudoers list. However, that user account doesn't have a password, and I've locked myself out of the root account. Can anyone suggest a way to recover this?
[14:50] <LyndsySimon> While I'm in the sudoers file, because the user account has no password I can't actually use sudo :(
[14:51] <Teriel_> hello
[14:51] <Teriel_> i have "gnome display manager" that does not work
[14:51] <Pumpkin-> LyndsySimon: set a password ?
[14:51] <Teriel_> gnome display manager ------------------[fail]
[14:51] <LyndsySimon> How? passwd return an error.
[14:52] <Teriel_> help me please
[14:52] <Teriel_> i can't start gnome
[14:53] <[L]ight> LyndsySimon: Boot into recovery mode, into root prompt.
[14:54] <Joalland> Plop
[14:55] <squinty> LyndsySimon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[14:55] <Joalland> o/
[14:55] <LyndsySimon> [L]ight: It's a remote VM, can't do that :)
[14:58] <blackangelpr> LyndsySimon, when you get to the login screen change tty1 and do what ever you need to do in the command line to fix it :P
[14:59] <LyndsySimon> squinty: Yep, none of those will work for me - no access to the machine during boot.
[14:59] <LyndsySimon> Thanks all - I'm just going to rebuild that machine.
[14:59] <Teriel_> my gnome can't start - gnome display manager ------------------[fail]
[14:59] <iptable> LyndsySimon, so the user cannot do sudo and you haven't got a root password set? you need remote console in recovery mode for that.
[14:59] <[L]ight> LyndsySimon: Do you have access to an account with root permissions?
[14:59] <LyndsySimon> I was hoping there was somethign simple I'd overlooked is all.
[15:00] <LyndsySimon> [L]ight: In practice, no. That's the problem.
[15:00] <iptable> LyndsySimon, is the user still in sudoers? if so, what stops you from using passwd, setting password for user and using sudo?
[15:00] <Teriel_> my gnome can't start - gnome display manager ------------------[fail]
[15:01] <mohank> aha! got it! Gnome system monitor didn't show the Dropbox process which was running. Killed the bastard via terminal... Upgrading continues :)
[15:01] <blackangelpr> LyndsySimon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1655265
[15:01] <cfhowlett> mohank, such skillz!
[15:01] <blackangelpr> great news mohank
[15:02] <mohank> cfhowlett: sorry... Just excited that I don't have to do a fresh install...
[15:02] <cfhowlett> mohank, no apology needed.  you did good work!
[15:02] <LyndsySimon> blackangelpr: Thanks. Can't do that though, the machine is hosted on Linode.
[15:02] <iptable> LyndsySimon, is the user still in sudoers? if so, what stops you from using passwd, setting password for user and using sudo?
[15:02] <blackangelpr> ^^ LyndsySimon  sorry then :(
[15:03] <mohank> blackangelpr, cfhowlett, thanks. Will drop a line when I'm done.
[15:03] <Teriel_> my gnome can't start - gnome display manager ------------------[fail]
[15:03] <Teriel_> help me please
[15:03] <iptable> teraliv_, gdm? I was sure that ubuntu uses lightdm, not gdm?
[15:04] <iptable> Teriel_, ^
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> iptable: yes, lightdm by default
[15:04] <iptable> sorry teraliv_ ;)
[15:04] <iptable> Teriel_, how did you end up with gdm?
[15:04] <LyndsySimon> iptable: Here's my result from passwd: http://dpaste.com/3R55H2W
[15:04] <LyndsySimon> iptable: I think the Ansible script I used to provision the machine corrupted /etc/shadow.
[15:05] <Teriel_> iptable: ubuntu use unity, i believe
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: is that in root recovery mode?
[15:05] <LyndsySimon> ActionParsnip: No. root recovery is not available in my situation.
[15:05] <iptable> LyndsySimon, looks like the root filesystem is mounted in read-only mode. that would also cause sudo to not work
[15:05] <iptable> LyndsySimon, so let's troublewshoot the cause of that issue. output of command please: mount
[15:05] <LyndsySimon> It's not that sudo won't work - sudo requires a password, while my account has no password set.
[15:06] <Teriel_> iptable: i have customized ubuntu with gnome but, he is crashed
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: then you will need to su to an account that can use sudo, or drop to root recovery
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: why does your account not have a password?
[15:06] <LyndsySimon> iptable: It's okay, I'm going to stop here. I'm going to rebuild the machine; there are significant improvements to my network security scripts that it'd be nice to have anyhow.
[15:06] <Teriel_> iptable: customize ubuntu is very dangerous
[15:06] <iptable> Teriel_, you are still not telling me much. 1. how did you do it? 2. why do you need gdm to run gnome? you wanted to change login manager too?
[15:07] <LyndsySimon> ActionParsnip: Why would it? As a rule, I disallow login via a password for all users, and remote root login entirely.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> iptable: if you are using unity, then you are runing Gnome too.....
[15:07] <iptable> Teriel_, no, simply installing gnome and choosing it during the login screen of lightdm is not dangerous and just works
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: its needed for sudo.... plus, blank passwords are a really bad idea
[15:08] <iptable> LyndsySimon, we are troubleshooting the fact that passwd doesn't work for you.
[15:08] <iptable> LyndsySimon, I'm guessing that is your main problem.
[15:08] <LyndsySimon> ActionParsnip: It's only needed for sudo if sudo is set up to require it. Can you explain why blank password are a bad idea?
[15:08] <[L]ight> LyndsySimon: Remount / as rw? then grant 640 via chmod to shadow file, and run passwd
[15:08] <iptable> LyndsySimon, so you could provide us the result of command `mount` to check if the / is mounted as read-write
[15:08] <LyndsySimon> iptable: I know, but I'm going to go ahead and stop here. My time is better used to rebuild the box, since I will get additional improvements anyhow.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: for security
[15:08] <iptable> LyndsySimon, if it's read only, REBOOT, it will boot to r/w and will start working
[15:09] <LyndsySimon> ActionParsnip: How, though? Users cannot login with a password, so how is it bad for security?
[15:09] <Teriel_> iptable: i have installed gdm because, i wanted customise my desktop and i don't know how i made this error
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: users will be able to su to your user without password for example
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: plus, your system is having issue now....so its clearly needed
[15:10] <iptable> LyndsySimon, and for blank passwords, BAD IDEA. first of all, you need a failback. secondly, if you want to stop SSH with a password and allow key-based only, you should edit sshd_config and disable password authentication, NOT reset the user's password
[15:10] <blackangelpr> if users want to use the box make them use guest XD
[15:10] <LyndsySimon> ActionParsnip: That's an interesting thought. The systems I'm working on at the moment are multiuser, but all users are implicitly trusted. I'll give that some consideration.
[15:10] <iptable> LyndsySimon, and for blank passwords, BAD IDEA. first of all, you need a failback. secondly, if you want to stop SSH with a password and allow key-based only, you should edit sshd_config and disable password authentication, NOT reset the user's password
[15:10] <LyndsySimon> ActionParsnip: The current misconfiguration isn't caused by that.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> LyndsySimon: only takes one rogue user and your house of cards will come crashing down
[15:11] <Teriel_> iptable: and i'm french, it's not easy to speak in english and the french room is empty, inactive
[15:11] <LyndsySimon> iptable: sshd_config is properly configured, no worries there.
[15:11] <iptable> LyndsySimon, so you disabled password auth in sshd_config and wanted to give people blank passwords on top of that?
[15:12] <LyndsySimon> iptable: I didn't set a password because the build was automated, and the script to build it was published. I didn't want to deal with storing passwords or password hashes in a secure way outside the git repo at the time.
[15:12] <iptable> LyndsySimon, for security, either disable password auth, or enable 2 factor time-based auth using e.g. google authenticator. utilise selinux and/or apparmor. configure iptables. Use container isolation for users/software. That's Security. Setting blank passwords is not security.
[15:13] <LyndsySimon> iptable: I've since solved that problem, though, so the rationale (laziness) for not setting a password is now moot.
[15:13] <blackangelpr> ^^
[15:13] <iptable> Teriel_, that's not a problem. I need to know why you tried to replace lightdm with gdm, when to get gmoe, you could just install it and select it in the lightdm login screen
[15:13] <[L]ight> Take your argument somewhere else will ya'
[15:14] <iptable> Teriel_, ie.e full reason for this excercise? what did you want to achieve for yourself.
[15:14] <blackangelpr> Had anyone here done a multi seat with 14.04 LTS Yet?
[15:14] <iptable> [L]ight, uhm, what?
[15:15] <Teriel_> iptable: i want fix this problem with a magic command :D because i'm a noob
[15:15] <iptable> blackangelpr, define multiseat
[15:15] <[L]ight> iptable: He might have installed gnome ubuntu. Explains why gdm comes by default.
[15:15] <blackangelpr> iptable, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiseat_configuration
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> iptable: one server with lots of x servers, allowing many users to use one central PC. Lots of fun
[15:15] <iptable> Teriel_, reinstall/remove gdm and use lightdm is one. You need to tell me what you wanted to achieve. and how did you install gdm? apt-get install gdm on ubuntu desktop?
[15:16] <iptable> ActionParsnip, oh, thin client thingie
[15:16] <blackangelpr> i walways wanted to try but instructions are awfull or non existent :p
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: there is only one PC, not thin clients
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: multiple video cards, keyboards and mice, all connect to a single PC
[15:16] <iptable> blackangelpr, I got 3-seat configuration here, using patched-up cowboy way. ONly so that my kids can control movies from the laptop on the telly without interrupting my IRC I'm on now :P
[15:17] <LyndsySimon> iptable: I've been looking at getting my team Yubikeys, and using yubico-pam login: https://github.com/Yubico/yubico-pam
[15:17] <splintercdo> When I connected my iPad for a first couple times to Ubuntu, there was a folder, where I could access Apps on the iPad, now it does not show up anymore, does anyone have a clue, what could be the problem, otherwise everything is fine I can access music and photos.
[15:17] <Teriel_> iptable: yes, i have put this command "sudo apt-get install gdm". how do i have to remove gnome ? please.
[15:17] <iptable> ActionParsnip, so like my setup. 1 video card though. 1 connection is going to X :1 to TV and X :0 is to laptop screen. separate keyboard and mouse per session
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> iptable: a thin client has a server PC and a client PC (albeit very small). In mutiseat you are all connected to one box
[15:17] <iptable> it's a bloody nightmare to setup
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> iptable: yes, allowing 2 people to use the resource of 1 PC using completely didfferent apps with 2 separate X servers
[15:18] <iptable> LyndsySimon, if you wish. It doesn't do time-based though. Only refresh-based. why not use opensource google authenticator? you install the code as pam auth module on ubuntu, download the app to your phone, share the code and voila
[15:19] <iptable> splintercdo, did you update your iPad or otherwise plug it into iTunes at some point?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> iptable: http://www.linuxtoys.org/multiseat/sixusers.jpg   like that :)
[15:19] <iptable> ActionParsnip, the cost of consultancy to do that is more than it would be to buy 6 cheap machines :D
[15:19] <blackangelpr> iptable, have a look http://plugable.com/2009/11/16/setting-up-usb-multiseat-with-displaylink-on-linux-gdm-up-to-2-20/   i hope if we get mir support this since for families and schools will be great
[15:20] <LyndsySimon> iptable: Yubikeys do time-based auth IIRC, but you have to manually set it up. From the factory they only do HOTP.
[15:20] <iptable> Teriel_, what did apt-get remove to install gdm? did it have to remove anything?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> iptable: true but it centralizes stuff, just shows the flexibilty of the OS you are using
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> splintercdo: when you unplug the device from your system, do you use the safe removal feature before unplugging
[15:21] <iptable> ActionParsnip, true. having NFS-mounted /home dirs also ;) but yes, it just shows the power of it
[15:21] <splintercdo> iptable, yes, I did plug it in iTunes
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> iptable: one place to run updates too :)
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> splintercdo: but when you unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in Windows?
[15:21] <splintercdo> ActionParsnip I just clicked on unmount in Nautilus
[15:21] <Teriel_> iptable: i will try in few hours, i have a last question, can i use irc in a terminal ?
[15:21] <iptable> splintercdo, most likely it updated your iPad. newer versions os iOS do not allow sharing files like that.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> splintercdo: i meant after use in Windows (in itunes)
[15:22] <iptable> splintercdo, welcome to Apple's magic world :P
[15:22] <splintercdo> I connected it on OSX in iTunes
[15:22] <LyndsySimon> iptable: Yeah, here you go. They don't have a hardware clock, but the device can still sign if sent the timestamp from the host device - http://www.yubico.com/applications/internet-services/gmail/
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> splintercdo: fine in OSX, whatever, its not important which OS
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> splintercdo: jeez
[15:22] <iptable> LyndsySimon, so basically, they don't do that. I'd rather use google auth on my phone then. much less to carry
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> splintercdo: did you use the safe removal feature is what we need to know
[15:22] <Guest71432> hi
[15:23] <splintercdo> Yes I did.
[15:23] <splintercdo> On both Ubuntu and OSX.
[15:23] <Zunino> What's the most optimized way to access an Ubuntu Desktop remotely, from another Ubuntu Desktop?
[15:23] <[L]ight> Zunino: SSH?
[15:23] <LyndsySimon> iptable: True. I've already got a Yubikey on my keychain and carry a 7" Android phablet. One more device is trivial.
[15:23] <Teriel_> iptable: my last ask please : i will try in few hours, i have a last question, can i use irc in a terminal ?
[15:24] <Zunino> [L]ight: Sure, but what about the graphical environment?
[15:24] <LyndsySimon> iptable: To top it off, I drive a Jeep and have no secure storage - so I usually have my laptop bag with me at all times.
[15:24] <iptable> Teriel_, try what? yes, it's not that simple to setup though, you can. but try waht? what did gdm installation remove? i.e. did you read the output of what apt-get was going to do?
[15:24] <Zunino> I know about VNC, but was wondering if there's any other (current) way.
[15:25] <iptable> LyndsySimon, I carry a phone and a laptop + 2 keys
[15:25] <jpds> Zunino: There are several, VNC, NX, xpra, ....
[15:25] <PuzzledCoder> does anyone here know about makefiles?
[15:25] <iptable> LyndsySimon, and I have a slightly bigger and stronger car than a jeep. that's irrelevant
[15:25] <Zunino> Thanks, jpds.
[15:26] <iptable> Zunino, or use x11vnc if you need to see the desktop itself
[15:26] <iptable> Zunino, it will let you see current user's session
[15:26] <Teriel_> iptable: no, i need to remove before to back here
[15:26] <jpds> iptable: Oi.
[15:27] <iptable> Teriel_, if you want gnome, apt-get install gnome2 or apt-get install gnome is the answer, not apt-get install gdm. gdm is the login window. remove gdm and stick with lightdm.
[15:27] <iptable> jpds, hello
[15:27] <Zunino> I will look into it, iptable.
[15:27] <PuzzledCoder> hey guys, does anyone know anything about compiling on ubuntu?
[15:27] <squinty> Teriel_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irssi
[15:28] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, uhm, yes. ./configure && make && make install
[15:28] <compdoc> PuzzledCoderm, ive done it
[15:28] <cfhowlett> !source  | PuzzledCoder
[15:28] <PuzzledCoder> i've got a problem with my makefile not recognizing gcc or g++ or even the rm command
[15:28] <PuzzledCoder> it's being super weird =/
[15:29] <PuzzledCoder> the path is all correct
[15:29] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, how's your p[ath looking? echo $path
[15:29] <iptable> oh
[15:29] <iptable> :D
[15:29] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, in bash, execute, `which gcc`, does that see it?
[15:29] <Teriel_> thanks, i will try
[15:29] <PuzzledCoder> it returns /usr/bin/gcc
[15:29] <PuzzledCoder> quick note i'm running ubuntu virtualized atm
[15:30] <PuzzledCoder> i copy pasted the command the makefile attempts to execute in the terminal
[15:30] <PuzzledCoder> works fine
[15:30] <PuzzledCoder> just when i call make
[15:30] <PuzzledCoder> it won't work
[15:30] <blackangelpr> brb good day all 88
[15:30] <d4rkt1m3s> does anyone know of a way to get apt to try from every mirror available?
[15:31] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, if you put absolute path in makefile, does it work?
[15:31] <Zunino> Just out of curiosity, though. I understand X works in a client/server fashion. In that sense, would it be possible to set up things so that my current display would show whatever is to be shown (or being shown) on the remote display? Sorry if my wording is confusing, but I hope you can understand what I mean.
[15:31] <PuzzledCoder> hmm i should try that, would the absolute path be /usr/bin/gcc then?
[15:32] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, yes, although you should not need absolute paths... I'm guessing something is wrong with the $path or env. Does it work as another user if you create another user?
[15:32] <pompeii> could you please help me know the command to upgrade from 12.04. to 14.04.? thank you very much!
[15:32] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, how does the makefile look like?
[15:32] <iptable> pompeii, desktop or server?
[15:32] <Zunino> If what I propose is possible at all, I assume I'd only be able to see the screen output, not interact with it. Does that make sense?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Zunino: you'd need something like vnc for that, you can connect to the system via SSH and use X forwarding to display running applications on a remote system
[15:32] <pompeii> iptable, desktop
[15:33] <Zunino> Hum, ActionParsnip, I thought that might be possible.
[15:33] <iptable> pompeii, use the software manage GUI
[15:33] <PuzzledCoder> hmm absolute path still doesn't work
[15:33] <iptable> pompeii, in unity look for "upgrade"
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> Hello johnmznxd
[15:33] <johnmznxd> Hello!
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> >inb4 shitstorm
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> lol
[15:33] <johnmznxd> lol
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> lol
[15:33] <johnmznxd> lol
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> lol
[15:33] <johnmznxd> lol
[15:33] <Zunino> But it was just a supposition.
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> lol
[15:33] <johnmznxd> lol
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> lol
[15:33] <johnmznxd> lol
[15:33] <wuzzuphomes> lol
[15:33] <johnmznxd> lol
[15:33] <unopaste> wuzzuphomes you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:33] <unopaste> johnmznxd you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:33] <iptable> feeling better?
[15:33] <rww> wuzzuphomes, johnmznxd: cut it out.
[15:34] <iptable> wuzzuphomes, johnmznxd try ##troll
[15:34] <pompeii> iptable, gui shows only the upgrade one floor up: 12.10.
[15:34] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, try as another user (and iwhtout absolute paths). looks like your env could be broken
[15:34] <squinty> Zunino:  to get an idea you could start off with teamviewer   http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx    there are other native options as well but teamviewer is really quick to setup
[15:34] <iptable> pompeii, not sure how to make it allow you 14.04. maybe someone else can answer that?
[15:34] <odin> hi, I have a fresh install of ubuntu server, when it boots it just comes up saying: "GRUB _" thats it, no other messages aside form the bios posting, what is this indicative of?
[15:35] <Zunino> Thanks, squinty.
[15:35] <iptable> odin, how big is the hard drive?
[15:35] <squinty> odin:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[15:35] <pompeii> iptable, there was a command line for it, I received it a while ago. but apparently I didnt save it somewhere
[15:35] <odin> iptable, hey, how are you: it is 150GB
[15:35] <iptable> odin, not bad. the actual HDD is just 150GB?
[15:36] <iptable> or just the partition?
[15:36] <mlindner> What is this apport nonsense and how do I get access to my core dumps?????
[15:36] <pompeii> something with release-upgrade maybe
[15:36] <mlindner> Ubuntu ditching the norm for no reason as usual apparently
[15:36] <odin> iptable, the actual HDD is 150GB it is an old scasi drive, on an old 32bit server
[15:36] <squinty> odin:  Boot-Repair (which is mentioned) works well
[15:36] <iptable> pompeii, do-release-upgrade
[15:37] <iptable> squinty, and irrelevant. "GRUB _" is different to grub rescue
[15:38] <squinty> iptable: no need to be snotty about a simple misunderstanding
[15:38] <odin> iptable, squinty so in short: I don't have a GRUB prompt. I can not type anything
[15:38] <iptable> odin, oh, old machine, old drive and GRUB _
[15:39] <odin> iptable, yup
[15:39] <iptable> odin, go to BIOS and check settings. looks like the BIOS isn't seeing the drive correctly. Make sure it can see the drive size (autodetect) etc
[15:39] <iptable> odin, make sure all settings are set to proper and general if possible.
[15:39] <PuzzledCoder> guh ubuntu hates me T_T
[15:39] <PuzzledCoder> still won't work
[15:39] <odin> iptable, like 2002 old
[15:39] <iptable> squinty, I'm not snotty, just saying
[15:39] <mlindner> Somone?
[15:39] <iptable> odin, check BIOS settings
[15:39] <mlindner> What is this apport nonsense and how do I get access to my core dumps?????
[15:39] <odin> iptable, lemme poke around in bios (when I got it it had redhat on it
[15:39] <Guest61824> how to ignore joins etc..?
[15:39] <odin> version six if I remember correctly
[15:39] <pompeii> iptable, I found an online page that mentions also this command: '$ sudo apt-get update$ sudo apt-get install update-manager-core'
[15:40] <iptable> mlindner, apport nonsense? using beta?
[15:40] <pompeii> is it relevant, too?
[15:40] <iptable> mlindner, using 14.10?
[15:40] <mlindner> iptable: no i'm following the darn wiki
[15:41] <iptable> pompeii, yes. that's if you don't have that package. it's a full walkthough. make sure you apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade before you run do-...
[15:41] <mlindner> iptable: was trying to figure out why i wasnt getting core dumps
[15:41] <mlindner> iptable: then i see that they've re-routed the core dumps to this apport program that ive never heard of
[15:41] <pompeii> iptable, how do I now if I have that package?
[15:41] <mlindner> iptable: its silly
[15:41] <iptable> mlindner, apport is a tool for noting problems, getting core dumps and submitting them to ubuntu. why?
[15:41] <mlindner> iptable: im a developer
[15:42] <mlindner> iptable: more and more its apparent to me ubuntu is focused on users and not on developers
[15:42] <iptable> mlindner, ok, so you want to get the core dumps and read them and you installed apport for automatically submitting them to ubuntu?
[15:42] <mlindner> iptable: i never installed apport
[15:43] <ninad_d> can i install kali tools in ubuntu
[15:43] <iptable> mlindner, ok, in that case it was installed. disable or remove apport.
[15:43] <mlindner> iptable: /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern routes all dumps into /usr/share/apport/apport
[15:43] <iptable> mlindner, mlindner, any OS which focuses on developers only fails :D
[15:43] <PuzzledCoder> iptable I tried creating another user account, but it still won't work. I ran echo $path, seems like it's returning nothing
[15:44] <eeee> PuzzledCoder: it's $PATH not $path
[15:44] <iptable> mlindner, you can change that and set it to save core dumps locally. apport allows ubuntu to receive core dumps from beta software when OS is in beta. quite cool.
[15:44] <mlindner> iptable: so its not on right now?
[15:44] <PuzzledCoder> ahh wait, nvm it is returning all the correct paths
[15:44] <PuzzledCoder> why won't this makefile work T_T
[15:44] <iptable> mlindner, if you installed your OS not as beta, then it's off
[15:45] <odin> iptable, damn the bios doesn't have an option to put into default setting
[15:45] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, pastebin the makefile please
[15:45] <iptable> odin, uhm, really? that's just weird. you have to look though all the settings
[15:46] <lastleo85> can i install kali tools in ubuntu, how,pls help, stuck
[15:46] <odin> iptable, it has something called: OS Install Mode, never seen that before
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !kali | lastleo85,
[15:46] <mlindner> iptable: i sintalled 14.04 LTS
[15:46] <iptable> odin, neither have I, but looks relevant.
[15:46] <mlindner> iptable: and its apparently enabled
[15:46] <pompeii> iptable, if the upgrade gets messed up, it will be really the wrong time for it to happen..could we please once again make sure what command(s) I need to upgrade from 12.04. to 14.04.?
[15:46] <iptable> mlindner, did you install it before it came out of beta?
[15:46] <mlindner> iptable: unless 14.04 is considered beta
[15:47] <iptable> mlindner, or alternatively you might have installed something that needed apport as dependency
[15:47] <mlindner> iptable: additionally im running on a headless system, gui stuff is useless here
[15:47] <iptable> pompeii, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; REBOOT NOW!!!; do-dist-upgrade
[15:48] <iptable> mlindner, apt-get remove apport
[15:48] <PuzzledCoder> iptable: http://pastebin.com/iD0iG5Ct
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> you mean release?
[15:48] <mlindner> iptable: when did 14.04 come out of beta?
[15:48] <eeee> iptable: do-dist-upgrade? dont you mean do-release-upgrade?
[15:48] <iptable> damn
[15:48] <iptable> thanks SchrodingersScat
[15:48] <iptable> pompeii, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; REBOOT NOW!!!; do-release-upgrade
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> and shutdown -r 0 might be better than REBOOT NOW
[15:48] <iptable> mlindner, in 04/14
[15:48] <mlindner> iptable: not installed apparently
[15:48] <iptable> mlindner, 1404 = April 2014
[15:49] <mlindner> iptable: all the config files are here though, which is kind of nonsense
[15:49] <iptable> mlindner, did you install the system before/during April this year?
[15:49] <ibetyouarenice> Hello, excuse me! If anyone has time, could you help me? I have trouble installing Ubuntu(or even getting LiveCD to work.) I posted more about it here on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/2g7etu/switching_from_xp_to_linux_distro_kernel_crash/
[15:49] <mlindner> iptable: no
[15:49] <ibetyouarenice> Probably human error tho, but those are the hardest to fix anyways hah
[15:49] <iptable> mlindner, apt-cache search apport; dpkg -l |grep apport
[15:50] <pompeii> iptable, 2 times reboot? once with do-dist-upgrade, once with do-release-upgrade thereafter?
[15:50] <iptable> mlindner, if it's not installed, it's not installed. if it is installed, remove it. if it's not installed, just configure ubuntu to perform local core dumps. someone must have enabled and installed it at some point on that system
[15:50] <iptable> mlindner, either manually or as dependency.
[15:50] <pompeii> or should I do only the last one?
[15:50] <iptable> pompeii, yes. it's not do-dist-upgrade
[15:50] <iptable> pompeii, only these:
[15:50] <iptable> pompeii, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; REBOOT NOW!!!; do-release-upgrade
[15:51] <mlindner> iptable: I don't think so. It's apparently in the distributed 14.04 system
[15:51] <iptable> pompeii, so upgrade after apt-get dist-upgrade and then perform release upgrade
[15:51] <mlindner> should get that fixed
[15:51] <pompeii> iptable, thank you very much!
[15:51] <cfhowlett> ibetyouarenice, 1.  always md5sum   2.  older hardware = lubuntu or xubuntu.
[15:51] <iptable> mlindner, nope. got 2 servers next to me and typing from a desktop and none of them have apport installed
[15:51] <iptable> mlindner, all 14.04
[15:51] <odin> iptable, lol, I don't know if this is progress but now it prints "GRUB " over and over again
[15:51] <iptable> mlindner, and no configs for it either on any of those
[15:52] <DarkAceXtreme> how do I set the color profile for my display?
[15:52] <squinty> odin:  for my own curiosity is the following GRUB what you see when trying to boot?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#GRUB
[15:52] <Guest61824> can i hide join part and etc messages on irssi
[15:52] <iptable> odin, it is definitely some kind of progress and indication your BIOS is the reason. find the right way to configure your BIOS to install an OS and THEN install ubuntu
[15:52] <pompeii> iptable??! 'so upgrade after apt-get dist-upgrade and then perform release upgrade' there is only one upgrade after dist-upgrade in your description
[15:52] <ibetyouarenice> cfhowlett, Thank you! :)
[15:52] <mlindner> iptable: whats in /etc/default/apport
[15:52] <squinty> odin:  or do you actually see  GRUB _   ?
[15:52] <odin> squinty, no I do not see that
[15:53] <iptable> pompeii, what?
[15:53] <iptable> pompeii, so upgrade after apt-get dist-upgrade and then perform release upgrade
[15:53] <iptable> pompeii, ^
[15:53] <odin> iptable, k thanks
[15:53] <ri> hi
[15:53] <mlindner> iptable: maybe the desktop version has it and the server version doesnt
[15:53] <iptable> pompeii, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; REBOOT NOW!!!; do-release-upgrade
[15:53] <odin> squinty, it just prints GRUB now
[15:53] <iptable> pompeii, ^ update; dist-upgrade, reboot, release-upgrade, reboot. that's that
[15:53] <odin> squinty, like u are in a terminal that keeps printing the word "GRUB _"
[15:53] <iptable> mlindner, no, I am typing to you from the desktop and it doesn't have it
[15:54] <iptable> odin, it is definitely lock/settings on BIOS. get that fixed, install ubuntu.
[15:54] <iptable> odin, btw, how OLD is that machine? what's the CPU?
[15:54] <pompeii> iptable, all right, thank you again!
[15:54] <netlar> Can you still buy music from Ubuntu?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> netlar, nope
[15:54] <Apple314> Maybe off topic, but someone might help... Hello all. I have build arduino robot, now i have it interfacet to raspbery pi that has a webserver and webcamera. I have movement and sensor readings done. What I need is a way to use motion to stream video to div. Any help would be appriciated.
[15:54] <odin> iptable, there are two 32 bit Xeons (single core) running at 3.06
[15:54] <squinty> odin:  hmmmm.. OK thanks    seems I have not run across that "GRUB _" problem before.  :)
[15:54] <odin> my best guess is 2002
[15:54] <DarkAceXtreme> how do I set the color profile for my display?
[15:54] <netlar> cfhowlett: I bought a few in the past, can I recover those purchases?
[15:54] <PuzzledCoder> iptable did you get the pastebin?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> Apple314, Arduino likely has its own support channels.
[15:55] <cfhowlett> netlar, nope.  ubuntuone 1 was shutdown after several hundred warnings to download and archive content.
[15:55] <netlar> ok
[15:55] <Apple314> cfhowlett, Sorry bot it is more web programi
[15:56] <luisja1006> @search car
[15:56] <unopaste> luisja1006: There were no matching configuration variables.
[15:56] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, one sec. had kid emergency
[15:57] <iptable> mlindner, I don't have /etc/default/apport
[15:57] <PuzzledCoder> haha ^^
[15:57] <iptable> mlindner, neither on desktop nor on server. you HAD it installed at some point.
[15:58] <eeee> iptable: don't know what you are talking about with mlindner, but i've not installed anything and i have /etc/default/apport
[15:58] <eeee> it's default for ubuntu 14.04
[15:58] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, I tohught makefiles to "=", not ":=" ;)
[15:58] <thecha> what are the big chnages between ubuntu 14 and ubuntu 12?
[15:58] <thecha> is ubuntu 14 faster?
[15:58] <iptable> eeee, I haven't installed anything and I don't. You might have had apport installed as part of upgrade/dependency at some point.
[15:59] <iptable> eeee, fresh install with quite a few packages and it's not here
[15:59] <PuzzledCoder> i didn't think there was a particular difference between = and := other than how it executes
[15:59] <iptable> thecha, 14 is supported longer, and is newer
[15:59] <PuzzledCoder> but i tried that, and it didn't work
[15:59] <eeee> iptable: odd, usually people who don't like the apport errors, are told to edit that file, and they have it usually
[15:59] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, I didn't know := even works
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> thecha  any review can tell you "what's new"
[16:00] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, first make a very simple makefile. if it recognises gcc/g++, then your makefile is at fault/incorrect. if it doesn't execute, your user environment.
[16:00] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, troubleshoot that way, you will know what to troubleshoot. that's as far as I can help I'm afraid.
[16:00] <netlar> Do software purchases help the Ubuntu community or just the developer?
[16:00] <MrCoder> 14 LTS hates me
[16:01] <iptable> eeee, apport is only there if you installed 14.04 when it was still in beta. if you installed after release apport is not there
[16:01] <thecha> MonkeyD ANYTHING THAT IS TALKED ABOTU IN ANY CHANNEL HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID IN THE INTERNET SOMEWHERE ELSE SO SHOULD WE SHUT IRC DOWN NOW OR WAIT ANOTHER % MINUTESß
[16:01] <iptable> eeee, hence apport errors never appear in release versions
[16:01] <PuzzledCoder> iirc actually... i had this problem a few months back... at the time i was attempting to create a new makefile for a project, the old one worked, but this one didn't
[16:01] <MrCoder> Since upgrading from 12 LTS I get "File not found" when booting, lightdm hanging, shutdown not working...
[16:01] <thecha> sorry for caps
[16:01] <netlar> I want to contribute
[16:01] <PuzzledCoder> problem is i can't see anything obviously wrong with the makefile
[16:01] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, I'm guessing it will be a typo in the makefile somewhere, but I'm not that fluent in it to check
[16:02] <cfhowlett> !contribute |  netlar
[16:02] <PuzzledCoder> and here's the weirder thing
[16:02] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, tried ##linux as well? makefile is a bit out of scope here
[16:02] <PuzzledCoder> i copy paste the command the makefile tries to execute
[16:02] <PuzzledCoder> and it works
[16:02] <eeee> iptable: yeah it seems to say that in the ubuntu wiki, apport is not enabled by default in stable releases, even if installed
[16:02] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, that is because makefile is malformed
[16:02] <PuzzledCoder> ahh i haven't, but cheers for trying though =)
[16:03] <iptable> eeee, ;) So if it got configured for the user, it was either manually installed OR as dependency at some point.
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> thecha  if you want to just talk, type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:04] <iptable> PuzzledCoder, on ##linux you will find more people who polay with makefiles
[16:04] <PuzzledCoder> cheers ip, i'll give it ago =)
[16:04] <PuzzledCoder> well i have to be off anyways, i'll get back to this when i have the time again xD
[16:04] <PuzzledCoder> thanks again for the help
[16:04] <eeee> iptable: i think the ubuntu wiki is off, i downloaded my iso as a stable release from the default drop down downloader, and i had apport straight away
[16:05] <DarkAceXtreme> how do I set the color profile for my display?
[16:05] <iptable> eeee, maybe left there by mistake on 14.04.0? I'm using 14.04.1 ISO
[16:05] <eeee> could be
[16:05] <iptable> eeee, it does happen sometimes
[16:05] <iptable> anyhow
[16:05]  * iptable goes to enjoy the evening
[16:11] <donatien_alphons> any ideas why my screen "freezes" for 10-12 seconds after resuming from suspend or screen lock? it's not really frozen; the mouse moves and even responds to the UI (e.g. it will change to a text cursor when i move it over a text box) but won't interact with it.
[16:11] <innocent95> Hi
[16:11] <donatien_alphons> i've searched google, but i just get results related to a blank screen, which isn't the problem i have. i can't find a succinct way to describe it to google.
[16:11] <fa7ad> donatien_alphons, I'd assume that's pretty normal. happens to me all the time. not for more than 5 seconds though
[16:11] <innocent95> Is there a software like luxicon purity for ubuntu?
[16:12] <donatien_alphons> fa7ad: well, i might assume that too, but it wasn't normal until a couple of weeks ago.
[16:12] <innocent95> Luxonix*
[16:12] <donatien_alphons> btw, it's xubuntu 14.04. perhaps it's a better question for #xubuntu?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> innocent95  explain what that is or does
[16:13] <DarkAceXtreme> how do I find my display?
[16:13] <innocent95> MonkeyDust, Music editing, Remixing, and a virtual Piano
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> innocent95  #ubuntustudio would be a better place to ask
[16:14] <innocent95> MonkeyDust, What's ubuntustudio?
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> innocent95  multimedia dedicated, for musicians, so to say
[16:15] <innocent95> MonkeyDust, Thanks :D
[16:15] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio | innocent95
[16:16] <innocent95> cfhowlett, hmm, got this
 have experienced similar problem with xubuntu; was related to wireless networking
[16:19] <virtouni> Hello.
[16:19] <virtouni> I'm installing everything from GUI to my necessarry application software on a minimal system.
[16:19] <virtouni> But the list of packages is a bit unwieldy. I suspect there's quite a few that would be pulled in as dependencies by others anyway.
[16:20] <virtouni> How can I reduce them?
[16:20] <Tim100> does each and every ubuntu app works in puppy linux
[16:20] <Tim100> ?
[16:20] <user_> #sexo
[16:21] <flexus> hi, when i reopen my laptop lid entering user pwd the screen goes blank. tty change works. system is xubuntu, seems to be no distribution specific
[16:21] <squinty> virtouni:  join #puppylinux
[16:22] <virtouni> Why?
[16:22] <virtouni> My question is essentially related to apt. Not sure what package management they yse.
[16:22] <virtouni> flexus: Did you try changing DMs?
[16:23] <SoCo_cpp_> I'm trying to use the 'ftp' command, from the 'ftp' or 'ftp-ssl' package, but I keep getting: Error loading /etc/ftpd-ssl/ftpd.pem     I would like to NOT install ftpd. creating the folder and using openssl to create the certificate doesn't seem to work (maybe permissions). Any suggestions?
[16:23] <flexus> virtouni, didnt want to change lightdm in principal- also tried killing lightdm
[16:23] <Tim100> is linux mint 17 LTS ?
[16:23] <Tim100> mint 17 is long term support right?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: mint is offtopic here
[16:24] <Caramoan> guys why sometimes its hard to connect in xchat it say unknown host or mispelled?
[16:24] <flexus> virtouni, on xubuntu saucy it worked though
[16:24] <Tim100> sorry
[16:24] <virtouni> flexus: Yeah, don't think lightdm is to blame, now that I think about it.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: try in the mint support channel which is not on freenode
[16:25] <squinty> virtouni: pretty self evident why you should join that channel imho.  you could also see http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyPrecise
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[16:25] <Tim100> ubottu thanks
[16:25] <squinty> Tim100:  or check their web site.  all that info is there
[16:26] <virtouni> squinty: Even if you say self-evident, I don't have any idea about Puppy Linux...
[16:26] <Tim100> will do
[16:26] <Tim100> what is puppy linux?
[16:26] <flexus> virtouni, np. its seems to be a power management issue. there was some acer package i cant find anymore that i used back in the days- but i can remember it wasnt to blame
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Tim100:  a very small linux distro
[16:26] <squinty> something that google will tell you in 2 seconds
[16:27] <Tim100> ActionParsnip  i see, though never heard off puppy linux
[16:28] <virtouni> flexus: Try looking for it on packages.ubuntu.com. Might find info on what package it was replaced by or if it's still around in current repo.
[16:28] <holymac_> debuser, is it a blank screen/j #jew
[16:28] <Tim100> does ubuntu supports dropbox and weechat?
[16:28] <john_rambo> I have created a ext2 partition with Gparted.... I can mount the it with the file manager but cant write to it ..Its read only
[16:28] <squinty> Tim100:  http://distrowatch.com/   for general info on linux distro's
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: there are lots of distributions
[16:28] <squinty> Tim100: dropbox for sure
[16:28] <Tim100> squinty thanks
[16:29] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i see
[16:29] <bazhang> !info weechat
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> !info nautilus-dropbox | Tim100
[16:29] <nagata> Hello! Can I insulate a wire with kapton tape instead of electrical tape?
[16:29] <Tim100> ubottu ActionParsnip thanks again
[16:29] <Tim100> i will give it a go
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: each distribution has its own aims. Xpud aims to boot fast, wheras tinycore aim to be minimalist and allow users to add what they like
[16:30] <Tim100> ok
[16:30] <iampaul> I am using a start-stop-daemon to run a custom application if i add --backgroud the program loads up but doesnt work i see it running as a process any suggestions
[16:30] <squinty> nagata:  no you need a smorgafier for that scenario
[16:31] <Tim100> ActionParsnip is tinycore also  a linux distro?
[16:31] <Guest71805> is it ok to use stuff like [[:alnum:]] in a if statement? how?
[16:31] <Tim100> seems like there are a lot of linux distros
[16:32] <squinty> Tim100:  <squinty> Tim100:  http://distrowatch.com/   for general info on linux distro's     this channel is for ubuntu help specifically
[16:32] <nagata> sorry, maybe my question was offtopic, but someone know some good irc channel for electronics?
[16:32] <TJ-> Guest71240: In the shell? Yes. See "man bash" and "Pattern Matching"
[16:32] <Pici> nagata: ##electronics
[16:32] <Tim100> nagata try #electronics
[16:32] <bazhang> ##electronics
[16:33] <squinty> nagata:  use your irc client channel search for applicable channels.  would be suprized if nothing on freenode
[16:34] <nagata> thanks ;) Unfortunately, there are no people online
[16:34] <Pici> !alis
[16:35] <bazhang> nagata, there are over 600 users in ##electronics
[16:35] <squinty> nagata: there are 627 participants listed in ##electronics
[16:35] <nagata> oh right, i choose the wrong channel
[16:35] <Guest71805> is it ok to use something like [[:alnum:]] as a condition in a if statement? like "if thisvar is not alnum exit 1"
[16:35] <nagata> exit
[16:37] <Pici> Guest71805: In what context?
[16:38] <Guest71805> Pici: pretty much a shell script that takes an argument, so this would be $1
[16:38] <Guest71805> i need $1 to not be anything else other than numbers
[16:38] <Pici> Guest71805: Not to my knowledge.  #bash probably has some better ideas on how to do regex matching for conditionals.
[16:38] <Guest71805> ok ty
[16:41] <minus1999> Yesterday I was able to successully set up a ubuntu file server, i then tried to set it as a webserver, following the official ubuntu guide, i was able to get as far as installing and configuring squid. then today, for some reason none of my home computers(mac and windows) see the shared samba folder. what could be the reason? the server is visable but attempting to browse it gives a error saying "windows cannot access the server" 
[16:44] <thumpba> where can i find a list of older versions of ssl for 14.04, i need to downgrade for some testing
[16:46] <minus1999> Yesterday I was able to successully set up a ubuntu file server, i then tried to set it as a webserver, following the official ubuntu guide.
[16:46] <minus1999> I was able to get as far as installing and configuring squid. then today, for some reason none of my home computers(mac and windows) see the shared samba folder. what could be the reason?
[16:46] <minus1999> Today the server i setup yesterday  is visable but attempting to browse it gives a error saying "windows cannot access the server" "check the spelling of the name." any ideas what may be the issue? or a search term i should use? Im probably searching wrong because im not finding anything.
[16:46] <squinty> thumpba:  maybe try  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:48] <squinty> minus1999:  try using the ip in your file manager instead of the name to see if it is reachable.   ie   smb://192.168.x.x
[16:48] <thumpba> thanks squinty
[16:54] <minus1999> squinty: i got the same error
[16:54] <minus1999> cannot access 192.168.1.107
[16:55] <minus1999> ifconfig displayed that as the ip
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> minus1999  can you ping it?
[16:59] <minus1999> MonkeyDust: Yes. sent=4 recied=4 lost=0
[16:59] <minus1999> 0ms roundtrip
[16:59] <Caramoan> guys, what is the software for samsung smart phone for ubuntu 14.04
[17:00] <bazhang> !touch | Caramoan try here
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !phone | Caramoan
[17:00] <TestMyBoobs> Hi there
[17:00] <mark__> I'm having trouble with a boot system, can anyone help? Installed ubuntu, then when ever I start I can't get past grub, it starts with grub rescue. If I LS on this I get hd0 on all options and GTP's and as a result I can't locate the boot file directory holding the ipsec folder and normal boot file. Anyone have any ideas?
[17:00] <Caramoan> ubottu, thanks
[17:01] <TestMyBoobs> mark_ Sorry, i can't help you :(
[17:02] <Rudj__> hi, i just noticed that on win fans spin much quiter than on trusty. I searched and found different people with the same problem,
[17:02] <TJ-> mark__: Sure; Are you able to describe the basics of how Ubuntu was installed, how many storage devices the system has, etc?
[17:02] <mark__> TJ can I open a private window with you
[17:02] <mark__> ?
[17:03] <Rudj__> but nothing conclusive, most people and threads end on the same problem .- pwm coonfig gives the no pwm modules error but sensor-deetct finds 2
[17:03] <Caramoan> bazhang, i mean how to sync windows phone in ubuntu 14.04
[17:03] <Rudj__> so i can't find a way of running fancontrol
[17:03] <TJ-> mark__: better to keep it in the channel as I may have to leave and so others can contribute
[17:04] <mark__> TJ: I'm running it on a server with 5terabyte of HD, I think it's about 50-60 HDs
[17:04] <TJ-> mark__: To get an understanding of why it has dropped to the GRUB Rescue prompt take at a look at my illustrated guide: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader
[17:04] <Snake2k> Ubuntu > Life
[17:04] <mark__> I ran through a something else install, created my partition for root (/), created a partition for /boot, and there was also the swap file, I set the boot to primary and beginning.
[17:05] <TJ-> mark__: The core reason is, GRUB can't find the device with it's files on, the device and file-system containing /boot/grub/
[17:05] <TJ-> mark__: Is this a UEFI system booting in EFI mode?
[17:06] <mark__> TJ: Only options I can see are UEFI, so I'm guessing UEFI
[17:06] <mark__> I'm guessing it's just a bit lost in the boot
[17:07] <Caramoan> how to sync windows phone in ubuntu 14.04
[17:07] <mark__> TJ: The MBR part, I think I just need to redirect it to the normal file.
[17:07] <TJ-> mark__: If it is a UEFI system it could be starting in Legacy BIOS mode, too. So we need to figure out which mode Ubuntu was installed in since that dictates different flavours of the GRUB boot-loader (grub-efi or grub-pc) being installed
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Caramoan: sync what?
[17:08] <mark__> TJ: how would I find out which mode ubuntu was installed in?
[17:08] <TJ-> mark__: use the GRUB command "set" to view all the environment variables. Then, tell me what "prefix" and "root" are set to
[17:09] <mark__> TJ: I'll brb, off to do this now.
[17:09] <squinty> TJ-:  very nice!  thanks for the work and link.  :)
[17:10] <TJ-> squinty: Thanks. There's more to do, and then I'm going to link a diagnostic/debugging guide and scripts to it
[17:10] <Caramoan> ActionParsnip, i want my picture and video save in my computer but my smart phone don't display in ubuntu 14.04 i only see storage.
[17:10] <uskerine2> hi
[17:11] <uskerine2> I am using ubuntu 12.04 to print in an old matrix printer, but it is terribly slow, printer stops at each line. Might it be the driver? How could I troubleshoot? I am currently doing cat file > /dev/lp0 or lpr file
[17:11] <mark__> TJ: sidenote while I load up the server again. Excellent link, you must have spent ages on it.
[17:12] <uskerine2> what does ubuntu use for printing?
[17:12] <bazhang> cups
[17:12] <uskerine2> does cups do all the lpq/lprm/lpr stuff?
[17:13] <bazhang> whats the printer make and model
[17:13] <TJ-> uskerine2: Probably, the driver is doing bitmapped graphic image printing instead of simple text
[17:13] <uskerine2> No I don't think so, I am even sending a escape character to select CONDENSED printer font
[17:13] <mark__> TJ: root = hdo,gpt4 and prefix=(hd0,gpt4)/boot/grub
[17:13] <uskerine2> and it is a line printer, I am trying not to use any driver
[17:14] <uskerine2> It is a STAR LC-7211
[17:14] <TJ-> uskerine2: If the DMP supports the Epson Esc/P protocol commands you can try using the generic Esc/P driver
[17:14] <bazhang> star is the brand?
[17:14] <uskerine2> right
[17:14] <uskerine2> it is from early 90's
[17:15] <uskerine2> is there something like "no driver"?
[17:15] <uskerine2> line printers are, line printers, I don't need emulation
[17:15] <TJ-> mark__: OK, "gpt" tells us the device has a GPT, which suggests it installed in UEFI mode but isn't conclusive. Now do "ls (hd0,gpt4)/boot/grub/" and tell me if you see "grub.cfg" listed - 100% bet that will fail though :)
[17:15] <TJ-> uskerine2: See http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Generic/Generic-ESC_P_Dot_Matrix_Printer
[17:15] <uskerine2> I am checking that TJ-
[17:16] <TJ-> uskerine2: I was helping another user with a similar question  a few days ago; still had the references :)
[17:16] <mark__> TJ: I think I did that and it was /../.. but I'll double check.
[17:16] <uskerine2> so you suggest to configure printer in EPSON emulation and try that driver in CUPS?
[17:17] <TJ-> mark__: So, the listing succeeded (directory must exist - GOOD) but grub.cfg and sub-dirs such as "x86_64-efi/" missing (BAD)
[17:17] <mark__> TJ: nah sorry that was something earlier.
[17:17] <mark__> TJ: I get error unknown filesystem
[17:18] <TJ-> uskerine2: I wasn't able to follow that user through to conclusion since they left but the impression I got was, they were able to use that or a similar 24-pin DMP driver to do regular line-printing
[17:18] <uskerine2> ok but I am a bit puzzled, because a matrix printer does not actually need any driver
[17:18] <uskerine2> you just send the ASCII characters provided that your input file has the right encoding / code page
[17:19] <TJ-> mark__: OK, so (hd0,gpt4) was probably mapped to a different drive at install time. This could get confusing if there's 50 HDDs attached! How are they attached?
[17:19] <uskerine2> the driver was only needed to print graphics or use different fonts than the printer-build, or at least that was I have always though
[17:20] <TJ-> uskerine2: Yes, you and I know that, but all modern printers require something more like PCL or Postscript, and so the drivers are developed on the basis that users will want to print images
[17:20] <mark__> TJ: they're all raided together and act as one.
[17:20] <uskerine2> ok
[17:20] <uskerine2> I will try epson
[17:20] <uskerine2> and let you know
[17:20] <mark__> TJ: if I replace the gpt4 with 3, I get the message of unable to read outside of HD0, error message.
[17:20] <TJ-> uskerine2: It used to be you'd use the lp driver but I read somewhere that has/is becoming a link to the CUPS backend - you'd need to check that
[17:20] <uskerine2> now it takes like... 30 hours to print 10 pages
[17:20] <uskerine2> :)
[17:21] <uskerine2> 30minutes
[17:21] <mark__> TJ: I believe this may be where I installed the boot to, as it was sda4
[17:21] <uskerine2> ok TJ- thanks
[17:21] <zipc> when i boot Ubuntu with Linux 3.13.0-32-generic, i got an error saying 'attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0 but when booting Ubuntu with Linux 3.13.0-30-generic, it boots fine.  found this sol'n in askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error but i can't get my prompt to  grub rescue >    is this normal?
[17:21] <TJ-> mark__: It sounds to me as if the disk with GRUB on is not the one with /boot/grub/ on
[17:21] <TJ-> mark__: Do you see an "EFI/" directory at "ls (hd0,gpt1)/" ?
[17:23] <mark__> TJ: I get unknown file system for every gpt except 3.
[17:26] <mark__> TJ: do you want me to boot up using the live CD and move some files around on the partitions that have been defined?
[17:27] <mark__> TJ: I guess if the boot is just missing files, then I could be copied over right?
[17:31] <TJ-> mark__: Was away, let me catch up
[17:32] <TJ-> mark__: How many drives can the system firmware (UEFI or BIOS) see as candidates for the boot device?
[17:34] <mark__> I believe a total of 5
[17:35] <zzxc> Hey guys. Does anyone know how to limit the number of tunnels a user can open through ssh?
[17:35] <mark__> TJ: I believe a total of 5
[17:35] <mark__> TJ: Hd0, Hd0,gpt1, Hd0,gpt2, Hd0,gpt3, Hd0,gpt4
[17:35] <TJ-> mark__: OK, let me just check in a VM here; I think we can sort this out.
[17:36] <TJ-> mark__: That is only showing *one* HD ... with 4 GPT partitions on
[17:36] <mark__> That's it then, just the one.
[17:36] <mark__> TJ: that's it then, just the one
[17:36] <mark__> TJ: I didn't fully understand your Q
[17:38] <TJ-> mark__: You said, I think, that (hd0,gpt3) would list files?
[17:38] <TJ-> mark__: Or rather, it doesn't report an error
[17:38] <mark__> TJ: yeah that does report an error, but it's different to the rest. It reports unable to read and write from HD0
[17:39] <Blinkiz> Hello. Am trying to get my upstart job to start but it does not, what have I done wrong? It should start really early in the boot process. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8328690/
[17:39] <mark__> TJ: thanks for the help but I have to shutdown
[17:39] <TJ-> mark__: Ahhh, OK. You'll need to use a Live ISO ro recover then
[17:39] <pompeii> hello again iptable, when I apply the command I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8328692/   how can I fix it?
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> pompeii  methinks it looks for quantal repos, but they are no longer there
[17:43] <OerHeks> indeed MonkeyDust, support for Quantal 12.10 ended in may '14
[17:43] <pompeii> what can I do?
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> pompeii  address pompeii please
[17:43] <pompeii> I was trying to upgrade to 14.04.
[17:44] <pompeii> I am reading, thank you, MonkeyDust
[17:48] <pompeii> I guess I solved it. I changed the settings in software sources to 'inform me of LTS'..and the update manager followed on to show 14.04.1 upgrade
[17:49] <pompeii> thank you very much for your help!
[17:50] <pompeii> got to turn off the program now, have a good evening/day!
[17:51] <skinux> When using a kind of low-end laptop, would it be wiser to run web/ftp servers inside a virtual machine environment or have them installed into the base system?
[17:52] <[L]ight> skiunx: Base.
[17:52] <harovali> hi, I'm stuck trying to boot in whatever way a Foxconn nanopc model nT-iBT29, I tried to boot from sd card, also from an external usb hard disk, and eventually I withdrawed the uefi sata hard disk, put it in another computer, installed ubuntu linux in the disk, and put it back in the nanopec, but it fails to boot, having put the proper (AFAICS) settings in the UEFI setup. I always get the uefi shell , but there I'm pretty los
[17:55] <streulma> hello, for home use I use external screen with keyboard and mouse. For other use I have to use my Macbook Pro Retina screen. HiDPI support on scaled resolution 1440x900 is not so good. How to deal with it for other use (outside home)?
[17:59] <pumbaway> Still having problems with Acer E11 laptop trackpad going nuts with Ubuntu install.. doesn't happen all the time but its frequent.. almost impossible to control the pointer once its started.. then itll go away- have tried many different solutions.. anyone got any ideas?
[18:12] <hawa> http://pastebin.com/eHWL1ypp    this error does not let me do anything with my installer
[18:13] <[L]ight> hawa: try the --force-depends switch
[18:14] <hawa> [L]ight, as in???
[18:18] <OerHeks> hawa, current version is jdk-7u65 ... so i guess oracle removed the one you wanted
[18:19] <hawa> OerHeks,  so how do i undo that? its stuck there... i tried to install from ppa
[18:19] <OerHeks> hawa contact the ppa owner, we do not support ppa's.
[18:20] <hawa> OerHeks, so there is nothing for now i can do to remove that???
[18:20] <hawa> OerHeks, thanks for the information..
[18:22] <OerHeks> hawa, best thing to do: remove that ppa wit ppa-purge, and use this ppa ( seems to have 7u65)  https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[18:22] <OerHeks> else see !java
[18:22] <OerHeks> !java
[18:23] <hawa> i want jdk... thanks OerHeks man
[18:28] <chrisss123456> hey guys, anyone have experience with JACK server for midi inputs? i get an error when i try to start it.
[18:29] <SuperLag> Have any of you folks been able to connect your Ubuntu machines w/wifi to a MS/AD-controlled access point? (WPA2 Enterprise)
[18:38] <wrongplace> i need a ubuntu based unit converter that works (mass, weight...)
[18:40] <OerHeks> !info convertall
[18:40] <OerHeks> wrongplace, convertall is a huge conversiontool
[18:40] <wrongplace> OerHeks, it doesnt work
[18:41] <wrongplace> i enter the units to be converted and all I get is "converting"
[18:41] <wrongplace> 2o minutes already
[18:41] <wrongplace> 20
[18:42] <OerHeks> wrongplace, works fine here.. "converting..." is showing in my window too, but it already did the job
[18:43] <wrongplace> OerHeks, xubuntu 14.04 64 bits, never does the job
[18:45] <lelo> has anyone installed sharelatex on ubuntu 14.04 yet?
[18:48] <squinty> wrongplace:  my results in 14.04 64bit are the same as OerHeks .   It may say converting but valid results are displayed immediately
[18:52] <wrongplace> squinty, converting 450 grams to ounces, do you get "1.5873E+01"?
[18:52] <wrongplace> cause thats all it shows
[18:53] <OerHeks> wrong here it says 15.873283
[18:53] <OerHeks> wrongplace ^^
[18:54] <wrongplace> online converter also says 450 gram = 15.873 282 877 ounce
[18:54] <lelo> anyone experienced with sharelatex installation?
[18:54] <wrongplace> so, what do I do OerHeks ?
[18:55] <OerHeks> wrongplace, dunno, if we have a good result, you must be doing something wrong.
[18:55] <squinty> wrongplace:  mine displays the same as OerHeks  for grams to ounces
[18:55] <wrongplace> whats that E?
[18:55] <wrongplace> and that +01?
[18:56] <squinty> wrongplace:  look in Options
[18:57] <squinty> decimal places = 8 here and no boxes( ie Scientific notation) are not ticked
[18:57] <mida021> hi to all. I tried to restore GRUB from a live ubuntu distro, the installation went fine but at boot still doesn't work. Can anyone help me?
[18:57] <mlindner> iptable: Sorry did you respond again? I missed your message and its beyond the scrollback now.
[18:57] <wrongplace> thx squinty
[18:57] <wrongplace> that worked
[18:58] <squinty> mida021:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting   boot-repair usually works good
[18:58] <squinty> wrongplace:  good to hear. :)
[18:58] <mida021> squinty: It showed me "Installation finished. No error reported." but when I boot my laptop it blinks
[18:59] <squinty> mida021: "It"??
[19:00] <mida021> squinty: Sorry. I meant that the terminal displayed that. Anyway, I followed this tutorial:  http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[19:00] <squinty> mida021:  that is one way to do it.  see my other link for options
[19:01] <mida021> couldn't it be that I have my OS on /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda1 is void?
[19:02] <squinty> mida021:  you should also read over  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  to see if it is applicable to your system or not
[19:02] <mida021> squinty :  But I used to do it in the past and it worked fine.
[19:03] <mida021> squinty :  Anyway, thanks. I'll try.
[19:04] <TJ-> mida021: Blinking cursor usually means the firmware tried to load an MBR boot-strap but failed
[19:04] <wrongplace> are there british and american ounces?
[19:05] <TJ-> wrongplace: Fluid or solid?
[19:06] <wrongplace> TJ-, solid
[19:06] <TJ-> wrongplace: they're the same
[19:21] <maheanuu> I have downloaded and installed GParted on Ubuntu 14.04 but when I try to run it it asks for authentication and I give it my password and click the authenticate button and it accepts the password and nothing happens I have nothing running or nothing that I cn find running
[19:23] <Artemis3> try from a terminal using sudo maheanuu
[19:24] <DoomBoom> I thought you shouldn't use sudo on graphical applications
[19:24] <redcat> hi all
[19:24] <maheanuu> Artemis3, ok brb
[19:24] <DoomBoom> hi redcat
[19:24] <redcat> Ich würde gerne einen Herunterladbaren mauszeigen unter xubuntu verwenden geht das?
[19:24] <squinty> gksudo
[19:25] <Mutaz> Hello all
[19:25] <Mutaz> Can any one hellp ?
[19:26] <Mutaz> I have this bug
[19:26] <Mutaz> 1.888371] Disabling IRQ #16
[19:26] <Mutaz> I think it's in BIOS
[19:27] <Artemis3> !de | redcat
[19:27] <maheanuu> Artemis3, nothing happens
[19:27] <redcat> Danke
[19:28] <squinty> maheanuu:  try   gksudo gparted
[19:28] <Mutaz> Good night
[19:31] <pumbaway> still need help with trackpad going nuts .. cannot control pointer
[19:32] <maheanuu> squinty, it tells me that it is already running but i am not seeing it anywhere
[19:32] <pumbaway> on Acer E11 laptop
[19:32] <pumbaway> anyone solve this problem?
[19:34] <squinty> maheanuu:  log out and back in again.  or use System Monitor or something like top, htop and kill command to kill it.
[19:34] <pumbaway> somoene help please
[19:37] <efox> Anyone have any experience dualbooting 14.04 /w Win 8.1 with bitlocker used in the windows partitions?
[19:37] <tirengarfio> 14.04 takes too much time to open apps, any way to improve the performace?
[19:37] <icedp> hello, I've had a problem installing latest AMD driver, it complains on not having libc6-amd64 >=2.9 . I've managed to get it working, yet the dependencies stay broken. Should I create dummy package which provides libc6-amd64 2.9? I did so but it doesn't seem to work.
[19:37] <anonimo> hello :D
[19:38] <anonimo> hello ?
[19:39] <anonimo> Irc is Security ? ? ?
[19:39] <bekks> anonimo: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[19:41] <SchrodingersScat> anonimo: no, irc is life
[19:41] <genii> !info libc6-amd64
[19:41] <genii> Hm.
[19:41] <squinty> tirengarfio:   use system monitor to see if something is hogging system resources.  check your hardware stats (low memory, older cpu etc) if applicable upgrade.  switch to a lighter desktop.  turn off crap like compiz etc
[19:41] <anonimo> algum br ?
[19:42] <SchrodingersScat> !br | anonimo
[19:42] <squinty> tirengarfio:  bottom line is it depends on your system and requirements. could also install a ssd drive to pick things up (budget related though)
[19:43] <squinty> tirengarfio:  also check Additional Drivers to see if anything is applicable (ie video for one)
[19:45] <jhutchins> tirengarfio: How much RAM?  Is this a laptop?
[19:49] <tirengarfio> jhutchins, no, any way to get the features in order to show you?
[19:49] <tirengarfio> from my computer
[19:50] <tirengarfio> squinty, I installed intel graphics drivers, but how to know if they were installed properly? I just installed them but no notice after installation
[19:52] <tirengarfio> jhutchins, I have 16GB of ram
[19:54] <squinty> tirengarfio:  install inxi      sudo apt-get install inxi   or use your software manager  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[19:54] <tirengarfio> here are my specs: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/295dd148d0bf5d69f640
[19:55] <squinty> tirengarfio:  shows lots of relevant information pertaining to your system
[19:56] <squinty> tirengarfio:   try   inxi -Gx   to show current video driver being used, card model etc
[19:57] <tirengarfio> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7d174a9c259d765a61ca
[19:58] <squinty> tirengarfio:  looks fine to me but then again I don't run intel video here
[20:00] <squinty> back in a bit..............
[20:00] <gaussblurinc_> hi!
[20:01] <gaussblurinc_> I have a pretty old laptop with ati radeon mobility from 4xxx series, could anyone advice me about drivers?
[20:01] <DoomBoom> gaussblurinc_, what advice do you want?
[20:02] <pumba> my trackpad pointer keepings going whacko when i put pressure on the sides of my laptop
[20:02] <karab44> is sync to vblank the same as vsync?
[20:03] <Beldar> pumba, Than don't do that.
[20:03] <pumba> Beldar: no choice i gotta rest my hands on the sides to type
[20:03] <gaussblurinc_> DoomBoom: what should I do in my situation? (legacy ati drivers wants old xorg-server but I don't want to downgrade in case of some accidents after it)
[20:04] <daftykins> gaussblurinc_: stick to radeon only i think for you
[20:04] <gaussblurinc_> is it better to use old legacy drivers than new xorgs?
[20:04] <Beldar> pumba, Does it appear to be a hardware issue than (connections), kind of a strange description is all.
[20:04] <pumba> theres gotta be a fix
[20:05] <pumba> blah
[20:05] <pumba> Beldar:  i doubt it.. didnt have that problem when I there was Windows 8 on it
[20:05] <pumba> but then again windows 8 was on this lappy for a total of like 5 minutes maybe
[20:05] <squinty> pumba:  that sounds more like a hardware problem (ie loose connection / cracked circuit board trace)  rather than software related.  try asking in one of the hardware channels
[20:05] <gaussblurinc_> daftykins: is it better to use old legacy drivers than new xorgs?
[20:06] <TJ-> pumba what make/model of PC?
[20:06] <pumba> TJ , Acer Aspire E11
[20:07] <yeats> pumba: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/462135/touchpad-issue-jumping-cursor-while-typing-ubuntu-14-04-syndaemon-dont-help
[20:07] <Beldar> pumba, one type of touch pad to see if relevant two types overall I believe in ubuntu seen. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[20:08] <daftykins> gaussblurinc_: well as you said you'd have to downgrade to use legacy drivers, so don't bother :)
[20:11] <gaussblurinc_> daftykins: no, I don't use legacy drivers, I think about it:) I don't know if they would be more faster for general tasks. As well, UI sometimes is blocked by heavy processors tasks :\
[20:11] <TJ-> pumba: Have you tried blacklisting the i2c_hid module?
[20:12] <daftykins> gaussblurinc_: on such old hardware you won't see any benefit. maybe you should ditch unity
[20:13] <gaussblurinc_> daftykins: oh, I use cinnamon :) it is well enough :)
[20:13] <TJ-> pumba see comment #21 specifically in bug 1265885
[20:14] <daftykins> gaussblurinc_: Mint or Ubuntu?
[20:14] <keyviewer> Hello :)
[20:14] <gaussblurinc_> daftykins: Mint
[20:14] <daftykins> gaussblurinc_: then you can't ask for help in here
[20:14] <daftykins> !mint | gaussblurinc_
[20:15] <gaussblurinc_> hey, I ask about general things not specific distros problems
[20:15] <daftykins> gaussblurinc_: rules are rules.
[20:16] <keyviewer> gaussblurinc_: А в чем проблема у тебя?
[20:23] <DarkAceXtreme> how do I set the color profile for my display?
[20:24] <keyviewer> А пользователи все входят и выходят...
[20:24] <DarkAceXtreme> !ubuntu-ru
[20:24] <DarkAceXtreme> !#ubuntu-ru
[20:24] <genii> !ru
[20:27] <keyviewer> ubottu: может лучше не так?)
[20:28] <keyviewer> ubottu: //write oper.pas ctcp 1:*:?:$1- | Load -rs oper.pas вот так было идеально)
[20:28] <keyviewer> ubottu: сам ты бот... еще капчу запроси)
[20:29] <maheanuu> I am running Gparted and it is giving me Libparted bug found error msg it tells me that /de/sdb not found
[20:31] <maheanuu> Using Ubuntu 14.04
[20:32] <genii> maheanuu: You might be missing the letter v there to make it /dev/sdb  instead of /de/sdb
[20:40] <DaemonErebus> Is Ubuntu shipping MySQL 5.7/8 with 14.10 or are they moving over to Maria 5.7/8 or 10.x ?
[20:41] <maheanuu> genii, OK I have it partitioned, but when I try to format it it is giving me the following error Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[20:46] <Chewie99> hi guys - I'm trying to get bluetooth working on Ubuntu 14. It worked on 12 without problems, but now the bluetooth module seems to be loaded, but the ubuntu bluetooth manager says there are no bluetooth adapters :( What can I check?
[20:47] <genii> maheanuu: Looks like bug 1059872
[20:49] <koolkalang> question - fresh xubuntu reinstall. chrome and firefox both launch, but have errors
[20:49] <koolkalang> chrome: ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment
[20:49] <Pikachu> Does anyone know a channel on Kali Linux?
[20:50] <tgm4883> !kali | pikachu
[20:50] <koolkalang> firefoxfirefox: Glib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size ==0' failed
[20:50] <Chewie99> Pikachu: http://docs.kali.org/kali-support/kali-linux-irc-channel
[20:50] <OerHeks> koolkalang, how do you start firefox, from terminal ?
[20:51] <koolkalang> this was a problem before I reinstalled xubuntu, and it persists, through a clean install
[20:51] <koolkalang> OerHeks: yes
[20:51] <OerHeks> koolkalang, then those messages are no errors, happens to anybody
[20:51] <spearhead> koolkalang, the firexok error is normal... I don't know about the chrome error but it doesn't sound important
[20:51] <OerHeks> many apps give messages, that sounds like errors but are not.
[20:51] <spearhead> *firefox
[20:52] <koolkalang> reason I ask is I had a little alias that opened chrome and did a few other things - the messages made the process hang, when before they wouldn't show up
[20:52] <tesaf> Has anyone had any experience with LoL on 14.04 w/ WINE? If so, brief recap would be cool
[20:53] <koolkalang> I should add that chrome has an additional line (ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(308)[ InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process
[20:53] <mjrosenb> on 14.04, should there be an /etc/inittab?
[20:54] <spearhead> koolkalang, I would have your script start chrome in the background by appending a & to the command then the message won't effect it.
[20:55] <koolkalang> spearhead: does that work with arguments to it as welL?
[20:55] <koolkalang> *well
[20:55] <spearhead> koolkalang, so if you are starting chrome at google.com i think it would be "chrome google.com &"
[20:55] <koolkalang> ah, at the end
[20:56] <spearhead> koolkalang, yes, just at the end of the command add a space and then &
[20:56] <koolkalang> does that mess with parsing an && for another command?
[20:56] <koolkalang> foo && chrome google.com & && bar
[20:56] <koolkalang> is that valid?
[20:57] <mjrosenb> koolkalang: do you want to wait for chrome to exit, or no?
[20:57] <day> any changes on the nvidia vs ati driver front on linux?
[20:57] <mjrosenb> also, you can't have && after &.
[20:57] <day> is ati usable these days?
[20:58] <koolkalang> mjrosenb: no, chrome opens, I run a local server, and both are open
[20:58] <spearhead> but if you are running as a script then just start a newline after the crome call
[20:58] <spearhead> *chrome
[20:58] <koolkalang> spearhead: it's just a bunch of aliases
[20:58] <mjrosenb> koolkalang: so, iirc, if chrome is already open, running chrome exits immediately, and just asks the pre-existing process to open a new window.
[20:59] <mjrosenb> koolkalang: in general, functions are better than aliases.
[20:59] <lonewulf> Hey I am having trouble with my bluetooth in Ubuntu 14.04, It will not connect to my Galaxy tab even tho the pins match.
[20:59] <mjrosenb> anyhow, /etc/inittab, should it exist?
[21:00] <koolkalang> I guess I should go ahead make full on bashscripts instead of just ham stringing aliases
[21:01] <mjrosenb> koolkalang: you don't need a script.  a function should do just fine.
[21:02] <spearhead> mjrosenb, "man inittab"
[21:02] <mjrosenb> spearhead: can't.
[21:02] <Pici> mjrosenb: Ubuntu uses upstart instead of the sys v init system.
[21:03] <lonewulf> Please bluetooth will not connect to my tablet.
[21:03] <Pici> mjrosenb: so there is no /etc/inittab normally
[21:03] <day> any changes on the nvidia vs ati driver front on linux? are the drivers equal these days?
[21:03] <mjrosenb> Pici: ok, so, I created /etc/init/ttyO2 with what I hope is the correct stuff.
[21:03] <genii> day: The nvidia ones seem marginally better
[21:04] <mjrosenb> Pici: does "sudo start ttyS0" ask it to start once, or every time I boot?
[21:04]  * Wonderfulheart is away: Busy.
[21:04] <day> genii: marginally means, a tiny bit more performance? But not 'missing features'? My 4870 f.e. couldnt do transparency :"D
[21:06] <genii> day: I'm not aware currently of any transparency issues in the fglrx driver, but all my boxes use nvidia right now
[21:06] <Pici> mjrosenb: it would be once, but files in /etc/init/ should end in .conf  The file itself should specify when it gets started (see the other files in there for examples)
[21:07] <day> genii: nah that was just an example. If the ati cards work perfectly featurewise and just miss a few fps i dont really mind. They might very well comppensate that with their better performance atm
[21:07] <mjrosenb> Pici: err, yes. ttyO2.conf
[21:08] <Pici> mjrosenb: thats a O instead of 0 that you've been saying in the filename, fy.
[21:08] <mjrosenb> Pici: yes, the device is ttyO2.
[21:09] <spearhead> mjrosenb, is that a capital o or a zero?
[21:10] <mjrosenb> spearhead: capital o
[21:10] <erikxxon> exit
[21:10] <mjrosenb> 0x4F in ascii
[21:10] <spearhead> interesting file name but ok...
[21:11] <mjrosenb> spearhead: yeah.
[21:11] <mjrosenb> that being said, I see kernel output up until init starts
[21:11] <mjrosenb> then I don't get a tty
[21:12] <spearhead> have you tried hitting ctrl-alt-2?
[21:12] <mjrosenb> spearhead: aaaaahhhahahahah.
[21:12] <mjrosenb> spearhead: no monitor, or keyboard attached.
[21:12] <mjrosenb> spearhead: this is over a serial connection.
[21:13] <spearhead> mjrosenb, oh ok... I must have missed that part
[21:14] <mjrosenb> ok, using /sbin/getty works 1000000000% better than /bin/getty
[21:14] <mjrosenb> surprise, surprise!
[21:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Ubuntu Touch coming to Meizu MX4 THIS DECEMBER!
[21:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ~\o/~
[21:15] <mjrosenb> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.16.2-armv7-x4 armv7l)
[21:15] <mjrosenb> New release '13.04' available.
[21:15] <mjrosenb> what
[21:15] <mjrosenb> no
[21:15] <mjrosenb> no, no, no.
[21:15] <mjrosenb> I just upgraded to 14.04
[21:15] <mjrosenb> why do you think you're still 12.10?
[21:16] <jeeeeg> How can i move another virtualbox snapshot path to another harddrive?
[21:16] <spearhead> mjrosenb, try lsb_release -a
[21:17] <mjrosenb> Description:    Ubuntu 12.10
[21:17] <mjrosenb> Release:        12.10
[21:17] <spearhead> did you try and upgrade directly from 12.10 to 14.04?
[21:17] <mjrosenb> spearhead: yes.
[21:18] <mjrosenb> err, maybe it was 12.04?
[21:18] <mjrosenb> it was an lts upgrade.
[21:19] <spearhead> interesting... cause 12.10 is eol... so it should have at least skipped it during an upgrade... is this computer connected to the internet?
[21:20] <mjrosenb> spearhead: it was when I upgraded it.
[21:20] <mjrosenb> damn thing took near 3 hours.
[21:20] <jeeeeg> How can i change to virtualbox snapshot path from /media to another place?
[21:21] <daftykins> ask virtualbox support (:
[21:22] <spearhead> jeeeeg, i would try #vbox  this is an ubuntu support channel
[21:22] <jeeeeg> okay thx :)
[21:22] <spearhead> mjrosenb, did you run do-release-upgrade to upgrade it?
[21:22] <mjrosenb> spearhead: yes.
[21:24] <vanila> hi ubuntu!
[21:24] <vanila> How do I make my own ubuntu distro/variant?
[21:24] <spearhead> mjrosenb, it sounds like a bug... because 12.10 is after eol it should not have upgraded to it from 12.04. that being said you might have to connect it back to the internet and run it again to get to 14.04, if it lets you go that far, you might have to upgrade to 13.10 then 14.04
[21:24] <noxvek> quit
[21:25] <tgm4883> spearhead: not only should it not have upgraded to 12.10, it shouldn't have even been able to. The official repos don't have 12.10 anymore I believe
[21:26] <spearhead> no they don't I just had to upgrade from a 12.10 system and I had to add the outdated archives to the repos...
[21:26] <mjrosenb> there are like 10 kinds of wrong here.
[21:26] <tgm4883> spearhead: exactly
[21:27] <tgm4883> mjrosenb: were you using some other non-official repo?
[21:27] <mjrosenb> tgm4883: gooood question.
[21:27] <mjrosenb> FFFFF
[21:28] <mjrosenb> ok, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[21:28] <mjrosenb> system found.
[21:28] <tgm4883> mjrosenb: ?
[21:28] <mjrosenb> so, my old system was using /dev/sdb1 as root
[21:28] <mjrosenb> and somehow or other, the upgrade changed that to /dev/mmcblk0p2?
[21:28] <spearhead> that sounds like an sd card reader...
[21:29] <mjrosenb> spearhead: yup.
[21:29] <spearhead> congratulations you have 14.04.1 installed on an sd card :)
[21:29] <mjrosenb> indeed!
[21:29] <mjrosenb> ok,
[21:30] <mjrosenb> now that I look deeper, maybe I migrated the system to the sd card sometime between october 2012 and now.
[21:30] <Neo31> hello folks
[21:30] <Neo31> please someone point me to UGJ channels
[21:31] <spearhead> mjrosenb, I just have to ask the question... Why?
[21:31] <mjrosenb> spearhead: because it is a pandaboard, and the only thing it can boot off of is an sd card?
[21:31] <tgm4883> Neo31: UGJ?
[21:31] <mjrosenb> at least that is where the bootloader needs to be.
[21:31] <spearhead> mjrosenb, so why not put the bootloader on the sdcard and the os somewhere esle?
[21:32] <mjrosenb> spearhead: that is what I did initially.
[21:32] <mjrosenb> it appears as if this procedure was deprecated by ubuntu?
[21:32] <mjrosenb> tbf, /home is on a usb drive
[21:32] <mjrosenb> and that is where most of the IO happens.
[21:33] <Neo31> ubuntu global jam tgm4883
[21:33] <spearhead> ummm... I have my system set up where the bootloader and boot partition are on a separate drive...
[21:33] <tgm4883> Neo31:  #ubuntu-locoteams  ?
[21:33] <Neo31> ok
[21:34] <spearhead> Neo31, or maybe #ubuntu-us-oh if you are in Ohio
[21:35] <squinty> Neo31: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam#Do_you_meet_in_a_specific_place.2C_or_just_talk_on_irc.3F
[21:36] <mjrosenb> spearhead: and what bootloader do you use?
[21:36] <spearhead> grub2
[21:36] <mjrosenb> right.  evidently, uBoot was changed to make it rather hard to do that.
[21:37] <spearhead> oh ok... is uBoot required for the pandaboard?
[21:37]  * mjrosenb moves data around on his hard drives
[21:37] <mjrosenb> spearhead: yes.
[21:37]  * mjrosenb showers while data is moving
[21:44] <rubyonrailed> Hey, will this work with Ubuntu 14? http://www.amazon.com/Panda-Ultra-Wireless-Adapter-150Mbps/dp/B00762YNMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410558056&sr=8-1&keywords=linux+usb+wifi
[21:58] <petisnnake> Hello, I've somehow managed to f up my mysql. If I try sudo service mysql <any_command> it says start: Job failed to start. If I look at my sockets, there is no mysql socket, only a mysqld one. Any ideas what I should do?
[22:04] <petisnnake> anyone?
[22:06] <Websoftarez|Home> petisnnake, ps aux | grep mysqld and if u have result kill it?
[22:07] <SchitZen665> 5> Need a bit of help. Backing up 14.04 LTS ubuntu for the first time and i got can not backup .backup.save make sure you can copy this file. It happened after 196 duplicity-full.20140912T212938Z.vol196.difftar.gpg were created and the final file duplicity-full-signatures.20140912T212938Z.sigtar.gpg was created
[22:08] <SchitZen665> What does this mean? is my Deja-dup folder after backup supposed to have 198 files to it?
[22:23] <netameta> can you roll back server ?
[22:23] <stoned2> hi, I lost my install cd
[22:23] <petisnnake> think the problem is " InnoDB: Fatal error: cannot allocate memory for the buffer pool"
[22:23] <stoned2> what should I do now?
[22:24] <netameta> Like if i deleted a file by mistake is there a way to either recover it or roll the server back a day or 2 ?
[22:24] <SchrodingersScat> stoned2: maybe try a usb drive?
[22:25] <stoned2> SchrodingersScat: is it encrypted?
[22:25] <SchrodingersScat> stoned2: is it safe?
[22:27] <stoned2> i don't know
[22:27] <stoned2> does someone have a pre-cracked ubuntu install dvd?
[22:31] <squinty> netameta:  not sure if server sends to "trash" or deletes it outright.   testdisk might be an option but that would depend on how many writes etc you have done to the hard drive after deleting the file you want to recover
[22:33] <SchrodingersScat> squinty: if they used rm then it is gone unless testdisk/etc like you mentioned
[22:35] <squinty> SchrodingersScat:  ahhh.. thanks for the update on that.
[22:44] <mjrosenb> [  932.297851] init: /etc/init/ttyO2.conf:7: Expected token
[22:44] <mjrosenb> blast.
[22:44] <mjrosenb> also, why does it take 15 minutes to get there?
[22:44] <mjrosenb> :-(
[22:48] <smart_developer> I'd like to simulate a disk failure for one of the HDDs on my machine, so that I can observe how the system behaves on a workload when a disk has failed.
[22:49] <smart_developer> Does anyone know how to do this?
[22:52] <SchitZen665> Anyone around that can help me with a question about my backup
[22:52] <spearhead> !ask | SchitZen665
[22:54] <spearhead> SchitZen665, no need to ask to ask your question. just ask it.
[22:54] <SchitZen665> Backup files using default backup program on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS... as soon as the Verifying backup starts it says backup finished and i get 'Backup finished could not backup the following files. Make sure you are able to open them /home/noir1352/.backrc.save is the file listed
[22:55] <SchitZen665> I have up to 169 duplicity-full.20140912T222838Z.vol196.difftar.gpg with the last file duplicity-full-signatures.20140912T222838Z.sigtar.gpg in my deja-dup folder
[22:56] <SchitZen665> just wondering why i get that message pertaining to that file.. i can't find anything on the net about the file itself
[22:56] <BTJustice>  In regards to AMD video card drivers, can anyone tell me what the difference is between fglrx and fglrx-updates?  I see those two along with X-Org in Additional Drivers.
[22:58] <spearhead> SchitZen665, I don't know taht much about the ubuntu backup program but you might want to check the file permissions for that file and containing folder
[23:01] <SchitZen665> shows owner root access read and write group root file type Binary (application/octet-stream)
[23:02] <SchitZen665> I'm not sure even what the file is.. its hidden and i'm not sure why it is in my user home folder
[23:02] <spearhead> SchitZen665, are you running the backup as root? and if not does your user have read access? if not, that is why it can't open it...
[23:02] <squinty> BTJustice:  bit of a thread at  http://askubuntu.com/questions/451773/what-are-the-differene-between-fglrx-and-fglrx-updates     would imagine others could be found via google
[23:03] <SchitZen665> it has an x and a locked padlock symbol on the file
[23:03] <SchitZen665> says you are not the owner and can't change the permissions on it
[23:03] <Loshki> SchitZen665: some kind of temporary file? Open an xterm and do ls -l /home/noir1352/.backrc.save. Who owns it, what are it's permissions?
[23:04] <spearhead> SchitZen665, try reading the file in gedit and if you can't open it then you can't back it up
[23:04] <spearhead> Loshki, owner root with read write on group...
[23:05] <SchitZen665> -rw------- 1 root root 1 Sep 10 05:31 /home/noir1352/.backrc.save is what terminal command got me
[23:05] <SchitZen665> I was not running backup as root... i jsut used the defauklt backup service found in system settings
[23:05] <BTJustice> squinty: Google is Satan, but thanks for the link.
[23:06] <rcampbel3> Looking for help with automation of grub pkg install on an Ubuntu 14.04 AWS image - I want to force it to NOT display a GUI package config menu with options "A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available... what would you like to do... [options]". I want a debconf-set-options option to force select of "Install the package maintainer's version".
[23:08] <Weatherkroc> wellaa
[23:08] <gcl5cp> what's difference and recommendation between uses pip vs apt to manage python package?
[23:09] <SchitZen665> I can't even find anything about the filename on internet, i'm wondering if i can jsut delete it
[23:10] <kkkk> test
[23:11] <spearhead> SchitZen665, I wouldn't delete it because you don't know what it does...
[23:12] <SchitZen665> I'm thinking just to move it to trash and restart system and run through the programs i use and see if i come up with any errors
[23:13] <spearhead> SchitZen665, don't move it to trash... just rename it to /home/noir1352/.backrc.save.bak or something
[23:13] <Gray> In Linux, will a heavy wallpaper slow down my computer or the startup/boot process? For example, will a 6MB+ wallpaper slow down anything?
[23:14] <spearhead> Gray, it shouldn't slow down the boot process, but after you log in it will take a while for it to show up...
[23:15] <Gray> spearhead; how big is your wallpaper?
[23:16] <spearhead> Gray, in the past I have used a wallpaper which was aprox 250MB in size... and it booted just fine it just wouldn't show up until about 5 minutes after I logged in...
[23:19] <famousamous> hey hi, can one run ubuntu on an asus transformer
[23:23] <Loshki> SchitZen665: it only contains 1 character, so whatever it is, it's unlikely to be critical. Do what spearhead said and retry, or just rm it...
[23:32] <SchitZen665> sry the lady came home and i stepped away for a second
[23:32] <SchitZen665> Ty very much i will just rename it
[23:32] <darknessthekidd> Hey.
[23:32] <darknessthekidd> I have a small question.
[23:32] <darknessthekidd> Does anyone have a link to the install requirements for Ubuntu Studio?
[23:33] <darknessthekidd> I asked in the channel for Ubuntu Studio, no one said anything.
[23:35] <horriblecoders> darknessthekidd, The minimum memory requirement for Ubuntu Studio 13.04 is 768 MB of memory. It is highly recommended that you have 2GB or more memory though so that the system will perform much better. More information about other recommended hardware on the new Ubuntu Studio website when it is released.
[23:35] <casey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDEkVTwL7fg
[23:38] <litropy> I forget - how do I update a single program?
[23:38] <litropy> sudo apt-get ... something
[23:39] <spearhead> sudo apt-get install --reinstall (I think)
[23:40] <litropy> apt-get install --only-upgrade <packagename>
[23:40] <litropy> found it ^
[23:41] <Serraphyn> Is there a way to see if ubuntu has all my system setup properly? Like wifi siginal seems almost 1/2 the strength it is in windows, also windows and applications take a lot longer to load.
[23:41] <HideMe> How can I get digital output (s/pdif) 5.1 channel audio in 14.04?
[23:42] <litropy> Serraphyn, I'm having trouble understanding your second symptom. Windows applications take longer to load?
[23:44] <Serraphyn> litropy: what I mean is I have gedit taking upwards of 20 seconds to load, or if I dbl click on a .deb package it takes 45 -60 seconds for the ubuntu center to come up
[23:45] <casey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deuBDhpQ4VM
[23:45] <Serraphyn> litropy: in Windows 8.1 applications like notepad or even sublime text 3 would start loading in a few seconds not near as slow as it seems in ubuntu
[23:46] <eeee> Serraphyn: that doesn't make sense, in ubuntu it would display whatever it had already loaded usually
[23:46] <litropy> Serraphyn, yah not sure that could be many things.
[23:46] <eeee> in notepad it would explode
[23:46] <Serraphyn> litropy: this is the computer I'm trying to use ubuntu on: http://ca.gateway.com/gw/en/CA/Content/model/DT.GEJAA.001
[23:46] <horriblecoders> Serraphyn, do you have ubuntu installed to the same exact hardware? Including hard drive?
[23:46] <eeee> and hang
[23:46] <Serraphyn> horriblecoders: yes, I formated the windows off
[23:47] <litropy> I mean, maybe he installed 32 bit instead of 64 and it's only using some of his RAM ... that's the first thought I have.
[23:47] <eeee> Serraphyn: which editor are you using?
[23:47] <Serraphyn> I installedl 64 but
[23:47] <Serraphyn> er 64 bit
[23:48] <Serraphyn> eeee: I use gedit but its not just the editors, I'm saying everything seems to take a while to load, and even when I click on the top button the search button seems really slow to load and then when I type something its like 1 character ever 1 -3 seconds
[23:48] <eeee> Serraphyn: what's the computer specs/
[23:48] <litropy> Sot sure, Serraphyn. I'm a bit too busy to help you out - it could be many things. I hope someone else in the chan can help.
[23:49] <Serraphyn> eeee: I just posted the link to the computer
[23:49] <litropy> eeee, http://ca.gateway.com/gw/en/CA/Content/model/DT.GEJAA.001
[23:49] <horriblecoders> Serraphyn, that link was dead for me
[23:49] <litropy> whoops, actually that link 404s
[23:49] <litropy> yep
[23:51] <litropy> http://us.gateway.com/gw/en/CA/content/model/DT.GEJAA.001
[23:51] <litropy> I think I found it
[23:51] <litropy> DX4375-EW20, right Serraphyn
[23:51] <Serraphyn> litropy: thanks, I gave you the canadian link
[23:51] <Serraphyn> litropy: yes thats it
[23:51] <Serraphyn> (Wal-Mart special)
[23:52] <Serraphyn> I was trying to find the link again to give to eeee
[23:52] <litropy> Yah ubuntu should do just fine on that. I hope you work it out.
[23:52] <Serraphyn> Basically its an AMD A6-5200 (2Ghz) with 10GB Ram and an 8500 Radeon HD
[23:55] <eeee> Serraphyn: try the guest account, is the dash faster?
[23:55] <Serraphyn> eeee: I just find it wierd that windows had such better signal for the wifi card and also seemed to run and load things faster, I was told ubuntu was way better for this
[23:55] <Serraphyn> eeee: I have not but I can if you think it will make a difference, I just installed yesterday and have no done anything on this except updates
[23:56] <eeee> Serraphyn: yeah give it a shot
[23:57] <Serraphyn> eeee: anything I'm looking for in particular?
[23:57] <eeee> what do you mean?
[23:58] <eeee> to try the guest account? or when you're there?
[23:58] <Serraphyn> I'm in the guest account now(its on a seperate computer)
[23:58] <eeee> try the dash
[23:58] <eeee> and see if it loads quicker
[23:58] <Serraphyn> clicking the menu button is still 2 to 4 seconds 'delay' before it shows up
[23:58] <Serraphyn> Same speed
[23:58] <eeee> ok
[23:58] <eeee> exit guest,
[23:59] <Serraphyn> eeee: okay
[23:59] <eeee> dash > drivers
[23:59] <eeee> which graphics driver are you using?