| elfy | morning | 07:28 |
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| Noskcaj | elfy, DId you get the chance to test ppa:noskcaj/upower? | 08:40 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: have you read the backlog at all? | 08:40 |
| Noskcaj | Not really, i lose 6 hours of it when i disconnect, so it's hard to | 08:40 |
| elfy | heh | 08:40 |
| elfy | hang on | 08:40 |
| elfy | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/09/11/%23xubuntu-devel.html | 08:41 |
| elfy | we discussed this a fair bit yesterday - the most important bit is at 14:25 | 08:42 |
| elfy | are there any FFe's for this yet? | 08:42 |
| Noskcaj | no, not the ppa is near done, ill make the FFe on sunday (busy with stuff like a soccer grand final till then) | 08:44 |
| Noskcaj | *now | 08:44 |
| elfy | so the FFe is going to be even later | 08:44 |
| Noskcaj | yeah :( | 08:46 |
| Noskcaj | We were waiting for some phone guys to be ready (i.e. this month) | 08:47 |
| elfy | mmm | 08:47 |
| Noskcaj | And xfce is the only DE that isn't completely ready upstream | 08:47 |
| elfy | and? | 08:47 |
| elfy | to quote knome "it's plain *wrong* to *start* *planning* a *new version* upload *after* the *FF*" | 08:49 |
| Noskcaj | the plan was started as soon as 3.12 released | 08:50 |
| Noskcaj | It's just phone guys were busy | 08:50 |
| Noskcaj | and debian hadn't done it till the start of august | 08:50 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: where are the discussions about this - we tried to find some yesterday, but apart from a couple of random comments in -gnome we couldn't find anything | 08:51 |
| Noskcaj | Which consisted of "fix it if it breaks" from the utopia team to most of the smaller packaging teams | 08:51 |
| Noskcaj | There's not a huge lot, mostly just darkxst and i looking at stuff months back | 08:54 |
| Noskcaj | then hoping the ubuntu-core and -phone guys would have time sooner | 08:54 |
| knome | Noskcaj, the whole issue is really badly planned and executed | 08:54 |
| Noskcaj | yep | 08:54 |
| knome | so then stop driving the FFe train | 08:55 |
| Noskcaj | unity makes this stuff *really* hard | 08:55 |
| Noskcaj | I'm only going to keep driving if it's ok will xubuntu, ad as it doesn't look like it, i think gnome will be at 3.8/3.6 a while longer | 08:56 |
| knome | at this point of the cycle, it really isn't okay | 08:56 |
| Luyin | elfy: are you here? | 09:27 |
| Luyin | btw, hi room | 09:27 |
| Luyin | morning, slickymasterWork | 09:49 |
| knome | Luyin, if you have a QA-related question, just shoot | 09:49 |
| Luyin | knome: already solved it, thanks ;) | 09:50 |
| qwebirc769355 | hey Luyin, what's up? | 09:50 |
| Luyin | qwebirc769355: I was going to ask a question about translating, but I resolved it. just looked around the launchpad pages and got used to how everything works | 09:52 |
| qwebirc769355 | great. Don't forget, we're always around, so don't hesitate to poke us whenever you're having doubts | 09:53 |
| qwebirc769355 | and thanks for steping in and helpi | 09:53 |
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| Luyin | isn't there a german localisation mailing list? https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Development+Lists | 10:02 |
| slickymasterWork | Luyin: would this be what you're looking for -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGermanTranslators/Mithelfen#Weitere_Anforderungen | 10:06 |
| Luyin | slickymaster: looks good | 10:14 |
| Luyin | thanks | 10:14 |
| slickymasterWork | damn connectivity | 10:25 |
| knome | ;) | 10:25 |
| elfy | Luyin: what's up? | 10:28 |
| knome | elfy, #ubuntu-gnome | 10:29 |
| Luyin | elfy: I've started translating the xubu documentation, but my questions were resolved by looking at the launchpad page :) | 10:29 |
| elfy | Luyin: okey doke | 10:30 |
| elfy | knome: what about it? | 10:30 |
| knome | discussion about the FFe stuff | 10:30 |
| elfy | oh - I'll check logs later | 10:30 |
| elfy | ta | 10:30 |
| elfy | knome: read - thnanks | 11:09 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: xfce4-settings includes a custom patch which changes the gtk and icon theme, but the dependencies are missing (non xubuntu) | 11:24 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: did you agree that this should be fixed? | 11:24 |
| brainwash | bug 1322305 | 11:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1322305 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfce4-settings needs shimmer-themes as a dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1322305 | 11:25 |
| brainwash | would also fix bug 1050012 | 11:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1050012 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "Stock Xfce does not have a default GTK 3 theme" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1050012 | 11:25 |
| brainwash | and maybe bug 1157706 | 11:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1157706 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "missing xfce icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157706 | 11:26 |
| Luyin | ok, enough translations for today. I'm off, cul8er | 11:33 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: yes, if we patch it for a different theme, but don't expect that theme to exist, its an issue | 11:55 |
| bluesabre | I'll check it out this weekedn | 11:55 |
| bluesabre | time for work, bbl | 11:55 |
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| Noskcaj | knome, Can you make a comment on the upower transition bug, so the release team see your views? | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I believe that's more for you, XTL ^ | 20:30 |
| Noskcaj | true, just knome's the one who has been talking to darkxst | 20:32 |
| Unit193 | Indeed, XPL has been a little busy as of late. | 20:33 |
| elfy | shame we can't wait months to do that - like gnome did | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | On the one hand, yeah that's pretty crappy to wait until after FF to land upower and the entire DE, but on the other hand I do get them being stalled by unity, we've had that problem and we're attached less than they are. Still not sure why the upower part couldn't be pushed sooner though... | 21:00 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, All our months were taken by debian xfce | 21:03 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, Because it broke ubuntu-touch until the start of this month | 21:04 |
| elfy | our months? | 21:04 |
| Noskcaj | of delaying it | 21:04 |
| elfy | what our is this Noskcaj ? Xubuntu? | 21:05 |
| Noskcaj | Xfce distros, i guess | 21:05 |
| elfy | so why can't gnome wait until 15.04 then | 21:05 |
| elfy | what's the hurry | 21:05 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst (understandably) doesn't want to ship 3.6 and 3.8 components for yet another release | 21:06 |
| elfy | or rather why should we have to deal with any possible fallout for someone else? | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | and the regression chance for stuff other than gnome is pretty low | 21:07 |
| Unit193 | Is 3.12 latest stable, or .13? | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | 3.12 | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | 3.13 is devel | 21:07 |
| elfy | pretty low is not not going to happen is it | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | no, but what changes are | 21:07 |
| elfy | and at cycle start it's not so much of an issue is it | 21:08 |
| elfy | are gnome going to fix things for us if they break? | 21:09 |
| elfy | that's all beside the point though - the point is FF is for a reason | 21:10 |
| Noskcaj | I would assume darkxst would help with our stuff if asked | 21:11 |
| Noskcaj | I agree with you on the FF point, but it's still up to the release team | 21:11 |
| elfy | it stinks | 21:11 |
| skellat | Grumbles: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/1330037/comments/29 | 21:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1330037 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "[FFe] upower 0.99.1 transition" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:29 |
| elfy | skellat: that has been the topic of conversation in here for about 2 days ;) | 21:29 |
| skellat | elfy: Yes, but I put an objection on record as noted at that specific link | 21:30 |
| skellat | They're *my* grumbles | 21:30 |
| elfy | thanks - we'll get ochosi to officially do it too I should hope | 21:30 |
| elfy | skellat: thought it was just a link to the bug :) | 21:33 |
| skellat | elfy: Nope, I spent some time while walking around the grocery store thinking of how to politely put that | 21:34 |
| elfy | :) | 21:34 |
| elfy | makes it easier for me - I was wondering ... | 21:34 |
| Unit193 | No, elfy wasn't wondering how to nicely put it, bluntly maybe. ;) | 21:35 |
| elfy | no I was wondering how to put it politely - I has other hat too ... | 21:36 |
| Unit193 | :D | 21:37 |
| skellat | Yes, I owe elfy testing | 21:37 |
| elfy | lol - everyone owes me that ... | 21:37 |
| elfy | I meant the cchat :) | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | "...whatever we name..." Awwwh, he still thinks the community names it, how quaint. :) | 21:38 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 21:38 |
| elfy | I was calling unicorn unicorn before sabdfl did \o/ | 21:39 |
| elfy | he saw it somewhere - must have :) | 21:39 |
| skellat | Just start calling it Victorious Velociraptor | 21:39 |
| skellat | It'll eat somebody's lunch | 21:39 |
| elfy | it's Vapid Vampire skellat :p | 21:40 |
| skellat | :-) | 21:40 |
| * skellat heads back to the kitchen to deal with dinner | 21:40 | |
| * elfy posts - leaves it to XPL | 21:40 | |
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