[01:08] <denza252> :O
[04:17] <turboroo> hey guys i just installed kubuntu and am installing steam for tf2 on my laptop. What do you think?
[04:19] <denza252>  Go for it
[04:19] <turboroo> you guys are no fun
[04:19] <denza252> :(
[04:19] <turboroo> I mean what do you think about kubuntu?
[04:19] <denza252> I like it
[04:19] <turboroo> linux mint didn't support my intel gma 3000
[04:19] <turboroo> i was sad.
[04:19] <denza252> odd
[04:19] <turboroo> I know!
[04:20] <turboroo> I like irc.
[04:20] <turboroo> I am going to telnet to a bbs soon
[04:20] <turboroo> that way I can social network the way it was meant to be done.
[04:21] <turboroo> Any recommendations on software for kubuntu?
[04:21] <denza252> muon package manager
[04:21] <turboroo> I picked up this irc client when I was using mint.
[04:21] <turboroo> cool
[04:22] <turboroo> how has wine support been developing over the years?
[04:22] <denza252> like synaptic, but doesn't lock up dpkg
[04:22] <denza252> turboroo: its getting better
[04:22]  * turboroo yay
[04:23] <turboroo> can I run cobal apps on here?
[04:23] <denza252> Idk
[04:34] <josePHPagoda_> Hello everyone!  I'm having some issues with my touchscreen under Kubuntu 14.04
[04:34] <denza252> ah, state your problem!
[04:34] <josePHPagoda_> the first thing I would like to address is that with dual screen, it seems to try to map across both screens
[04:34] <josePHPagoda_> rather than just the touch screen
[04:35] <josePHPagoda_> so as a result, the left side of my touchscreen taps on my left monitor
[04:35] <josePHPagoda_> i'm assuming that can be fixed via calibration, but I've not found any tool to do so
[04:36] <denza252> alright
[04:36] <josePHPagoda_> system settings doesn't seem to have one
[04:36] <denza252> try package x11-touchscreen-calibrator
[04:37] <josePHPagoda_> fetching that now
[04:38] <josePHPagoda_> ok, yeah
[04:38] <josePHPagoda_> it believes my screen is 3840x1080
[04:38] <josePHPagoda_> which is the problem
[04:38] <denza252> ah
[04:38] <josePHPagoda_> so it calibrated the touch for both screens, not just the touchscreen
[04:38] <josePHPagoda_> any ideas on how I could address that?
[04:39] <denza252> Alright, I should mention I'm no expert on most stuff
[04:39] <denza252> But I'll try...
[04:39] <josePHPagoda_> no worries :)
[04:39] <josePHPagoda_> i'm an expert at some stuff, but not this :P
[04:39] <denza252> same
[04:39] <denza252> System Settings> display and monitor > Display Configuration
[04:40] <josePHPagoda_> ok
[04:40] <josePHPagoda_> it shows my two screens
[04:40] <denza252> just try disabling one screen then calibrating the touch input
[04:44] <josePHPagoda> denza252: ok, so when I just had the one screen up, it worked fine, but immediately broke once I turned the other screen back up
[04:44]  * josePHPagoda believes this is a bug.
[04:45] <denza252> alright, try unjoining the two screens in the configurator
[04:45] <josePHPagoda> hang on, my panels just froze
[04:45] <josePHPagoda> which is unpleasant
[04:45] <josePHPagoda> everything else still works, but my kde panels stopped
[04:45] <josePHPagoda> which i think is another bug
[04:45] <josePHPagoda> :-/
[04:46] <josePHPagoda> ok, so separating them didn't work either
[04:46] <josePHPagoda> :-/
[04:49] <josePHPagoda> i'm going to log out and then back in, hopefully that'll fix my panel issue
[04:50] <josePHPagoda> welp, i can't
[04:50] <josePHPagoda> the flag in the top right isn't clickable
[04:50] <josePHPagoda> looks like only applications are clickable
[04:50] <josePHPagoda> gonna reboot
[04:53] <josePHPagoda> ok, i'm back
[04:53] <josePHPagoda> things are happier now
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> any other ideas denza252?
[04:56] <denza252> Sorry, no :(
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> if need be, I can disable the second monitor when I need to use the touchscreen
[04:56] <denza252> Have you tried ubuntuforums?
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> the second issue is a bit diff
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> i've searched them, but not posted anything yet
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> so the second issue is that clicks don't seem to work inside of SDL games
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> even though SDL 2 should be handling touch events like mouse events
[05:22] <traveler> sup all
[05:22] <denza252> sup
[05:22] <traveler> 229 users and chat never scrolls lol
[05:22] <denza252> :P
[05:23] <traveler> so, long time gnome user, new to kubuntu 4+, so far really like it. really liked what I saw with plasma 5 though.
[05:24] <traveler> -kde 4+
[05:25] <traveler> so.......... 2 guys walk into a bar,
[05:25] <traveler> 3rd guy ducks
[05:57] <ussher_> chat scrolls when there are questions.
[06:44] <nova_> My networking stopped working last night after installing updates.  I'm running 14.04 on VMWare Workstation.  "Could not find plugin for 'connection preferences' for application 'systemsettings' Library 'kcm_kio' not found" is the message I see in the network-manager GUI.
[06:46] <nova_> I'm not sure how to troubleshoot or fix it, especially without internet access.
[07:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:01] <ubuntuuser> hi guys. Why does Kubuntu 14.04.1 installer crash when installing?
[08:18] <lordievader> ubuntuuser: At what stage does it crash?
[08:18] <ubuntuuser> lordievader choosing TimeZone
[08:19] <lordievader> ubuntuuser: Are you installing Project Neon?
[08:22] <ubuntuuser> lordievader no. just 14.04. Why?
[08:22] <ubuntuuser> but i plan to do it
[08:22] <lordievader> ubuntuuser: Seeing your post in #kde ;) Anyhow check the live-disk/usb for defects.
[08:34] <aks> Hi
[08:35] <aks> Can anyone tell me when will Kubuntu 4.14 will get KDE 5 freame works
[08:35] <aks> Or is it not going to get this ?
[08:36] <lordievader> aks: Not anytime soon ;)
[08:37] <lordievader> IRRC 15.04 is the earliest it might be.
[08:38] <aks> Ooh in that case need to upgrade to Kubuntu 10.14 Hope till then all the bugs for KDE 5 will be fixed
[08:38] <aks> Thanks for your response.
[08:39] <lordievader> aks: I hope you mean 14.04 ;)
[08:40] <aks> lordievader : No the version which is about to come in Oct
[08:41] <lordievader> aks: Upgrading to a development release is not recommended.
[08:41] <aks> Hmm ... so I dont have a better way to checkout KDE5
[08:42] <aks> Other than using that buggy release iso ?
[08:42] <lordievader> aks: I'd do so in a vm. But in the current state KDE5 isn't ment for everyday use IMO.
[08:43] <lordievader> Err KF5.
[08:43] <aks>  lordievader : Yaa I tried that ISO which they are offering, but its buggy and apps crashes alot.
[08:44] <lordievader> aks: Point made ;)
[08:44] <aks> I tried with Ubuntu with kf5 also .... that was also not functional
[08:44] <lordievader> aks: KF5 is still very much in its first stages. Not really usable at this point.
[08:45] <aks> Hmm ... Fine then will wait for a better version in near future. Thanks for your thoughts ... Bye
[09:57] <nova_> My networking stopped working last night after installing updates.  I'm running 14.04 on VMWare Workstation.  "Could not find plugin for 'connection preferences' for application 'systemsettings' Library 'kcm_kio' not found" is the message I see in the network-manager GUI.
[10:57] <nova_> can anyone help me diagnose my problem with connection-manager?  It stopped working after I updated last night.
[11:02] <lolz> do you know how to solve this problem with kubuntu(14.04) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156845 ?
[11:03] <lolz> whole kde is crushing/freezing whole the time
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:01] <enrico91> ciao ragazzi
[14:01] <enrico91> hi guys
[14:01] <enrico91> i need help.
[14:01] <enrico91> i start kubuntu today, and when is load with picture of kubunt dont go after
[14:01] <enrico91> is blocked
[14:02] <enrico91> dont ask the password
[14:02] <enrico91> nothing
[14:02] <enrico91> what can i do?
[14:03] <enrico91> anybody can help me?
[14:11]  * RedDeath Back
[14:37] <trinity> hello
[14:37] <lordievader> o/
[14:42] <trinity> j ai achetée sacred gold via desura
[14:43] <trinity> mais j ai un bug au lancement du jeu
[14:43] <lordievader> !french | trinity
[14:44] <trinity> thanks
[17:18] <josePHPagoda> so this is getting annoying...
[17:18] <josePHPagoda> my panels and widgets all suddenly stop responding
[17:19] <josePHPagoda> the only recourse is to reboot
[17:19] <josePHPagoda> anyone else experiencing that
[17:19] <josePHPagoda> ?
[17:20] <josePHPagoda> and plasma-desktop seems to be consuming 70ish percent of oe of my cores
[17:20] <josePHPagoda> which seems a little high
[17:21] <josePHPagoda> so i managed to get a terminal up
[17:21] <josePHPagoda> did a killall plasma-desktop
[17:21] <josePHPagoda> then started it again, and things seemed to work
[17:22] <josePHPagoda> but this has happened to me 3 times so far today
[17:33] <BluesKaj> josePHPagoda, have you updated and upgraded today?
[17:33] <josePHPagoda> i haven't
[17:33] <josePHPagoda> are there updates available?
[17:34] <josePHPagoda> and do they address what I'm hitting?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> then do so
[17:35] <josePHPagoda> been having internet issues
[17:35] <josePHPagoda> so updates take a LONG time
[17:36] <BluesKaj> josePHPagoda, is it your ISP or network manager ?
[17:36] <josePHPagoda> my ISP
[17:36] <josePHPagoda> and they are being super slow to fix it
[17:36] <josePHPagoda> which is frustrating
[17:37] <josePHPagoda> i'll try to run the updates though
[17:37] <josePHPagoda> hopefully that will resolve the issue
[17:38] <BluesKaj> josePHPagoda, yes, if you can, upgrades will probly fix your plasma problem
[17:39] <josePHPagoda> none of the updates are related to kde or plasma
[17:39] <josePHPagoda> i have an update for obs-studio, gcc and that's it
[17:41] <BluesKaj> josePHPagoda, make sure your sources.list is not blockiing some sources with a # in front, aka commented
[17:55] <yossarianuk> hi - why is deadline the default scheduler?
[17:55] <yossarianuk> in a desktop isn't cfq a better choice ?
[17:56] <yofel> because... ask the foundation team. We added an udev rule to kubuntu-default-settings for 14.10 which changes it to CFQ
[17:57] <yossarianuk> good idea...  For a desktop 4 core machine I assume CFQ is a better choice ?
[17:57] <yossarianuk> I do not have ssd
[17:58] <yofel> hard to say, baloo needs cfq to not act up while indexing, otherwise you shouldn't see much difference
[17:59] <yossarianuk> ok thanks
[18:00] <yofel> or rather whether you see one or not depends on very specific workloads.
[18:00] <yofel> so deadline is better for servers, and should work perfecly fine on desktops in most cases but not all
[18:02] <yossarianuk> i know deadline is also better for ssd (perhaps a reason why that was chosen also.)
[18:25] <allstarsnorks2> Is Project Neon based on Kubuntu?
[18:26] <genii> allstarsnorks2: It's basically a Kubuntu Daily
[18:27] <TheFakeazneD525> hi genii
[18:27]  * genii slides TheFakeazneD525 a fresh coffee
[18:27] <TheFakeazneD525> :D thanks
[18:28] <allstarsnorks2> genii I see. But I can still install it (on a VM), right?
[18:28] <genii> allstarsnorks2: Certainly
[18:28] <allstarsnorks2> great. I just hope Ubiquity wouldn't crash.
[18:29] <genii> allstarsnorks2: Instructions here: https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE#Installing_Project_Neon
[18:29] <allstarsnorks2> genii thanks for the link
[18:31] <allstarsnorks2> KDE Plasma 5 looking good!
[18:33] <jubo2> Kubuntu, my fav OS
[18:33] <TheFakeazneD525> ya
[18:35] <allstarsnorks2> so I can upgrade to the Project Neon (14.10) beta whenever they're out?
[18:49] <skreech_> crdpink2: thanks still having issues
[19:11] <TelMeUK> hello
[19:12] <BluesKaj> hi TelMeUK
[19:12] <jubo2> Hiya BluesKaj, TelMeUK
[19:13] <TelMeUK> hi BluesKaj, I'm new here as you probably guessed
[19:13] <jubo2> TelMeUK: You're in good company
[19:13] <BluesKaj> hey jubo2
[19:13] <TelMeUK> haven't used IRC for years
[19:13] <jubo2> Today I edited my 1st video
[19:13] <jubo2> did it with kdenlive naturally
[19:14] <natacus> hi, fresh install of kubuntu 14.04, am using  TP link usb wireless dongle for wifi - but after about 30min the connection drops, the usb stick is extremly hot ( almost meltting some plastic ), shutdown stalls until usb stick is removed. The same stick never gave any issues in win7.
[19:15] <jubo2> TelMeUK: I didn't irc from '98-'02. Before that I ircced from '95 and after '02 I've been on
[19:15] <TheFakeazneD525> Sounds like it's being constantly accessd
[19:15] <natacus> TheFakeazneD525: Any ideas fir a fix?
[19:15] <jubo2> natacus: consumer electronics are wise if they shut down before setting afire
[19:16] <TheFakeazneD525> Unless you need wi-fi constantly, I can only recommend to turn off wi-fi as much as possible
[19:16] <TelMeUK> I used to use Virgin's IRC Chat room until it closed years ago
[19:16] <TheFakeazneD525> or unload the specific driver for the device when not in use
[19:17] <BluesKaj> natacus,
[19:17] <BluesKaj> check your /var/log/syslog
[19:17] <natacus> yes BluesKaj
[19:18] <natacus> i am after rebooting, does that matter?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> no
[19:18] <natacus> ok i have it,
[19:20] <natacus> BluesKaj: am i looking for anything in particular there?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> look for a repetition of text to do with internet/wifi connection
[19:21] <BluesKaj> think TheFakeazneD525 has an insight there
[19:22] <TelMeUK> jubo2, is this room just for support?
[19:22] <TheFakeazneD525> TelMeUK: support and general kubuntu discussion
[19:22] <jubo2> TelMeUK: mostly yes.. there is #kubuntu-offtopic for offtopic
[19:22] <BluesKaj> TelMeUK, yes, but jubo2 doesn't seem to care :_)
[19:22] <TelMeUK> ok  are there other rooms available?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> yes plenty
[19:23] <jubo2> TelMeUK: you know.. if it's a support channel then channel traffic is bad news
[19:23] <jubo2> No channel traffic == No support requests, good for us
[19:23] <jubo2> Channel traffic == support requests, bad for us
[19:24] <BluesKaj> actually i don't mind answering questions if I can help, that's why I hang out there
[19:24] <jubo2> (t)here
[19:24] <BluesKaj> jubo2, you speak for yourself only please
[19:25] <TelMeUK> I'm sure I'll need some support, only recently installed Kubuntu
[19:27] <natacus> BluesKaj: dont see anything really, am letting pc run as normal and keeping an eye on syslog
[19:27] <BluesKaj> TelMeUK, then you know where to ask, but there are other chats that give ubuntu support as well depending on the nature of the question
[19:27] <TelMeUK> ok thanks
[19:37] <BluesKaj> natacus, check the kmenu>apps>system>system monitor and look for a series of closely spaced spikes in network history
[19:39] <natacus> BluesKaj: Will do, gonna let it run for a while, with youtube playing in the background and see what happens
[21:28] <derplio> Hey, I'm having a problem with OpenGL.
[21:30] <TheFakeazneD525> derplio: have you tried the proprietary drivers?
[21:31] <derplio> Whenever i try to use something that needs OpenGL i get the message "Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError' !"
[21:32] <derplio> I'm not that good with Unix systems.
[21:32] <derplio> How do i try proprietary drivers?
[21:33] <TheFakeazneD525> open up the menu, and find Driver Manager
[21:33] <TheFakeazneD525> it'll load up the availible drivers