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adrenaline_bluesabre, looking00:02
adrenaline_Looks promising. I am going to mess with it this weekend.00:05
QuantibilityWow00:51
QuantibilityThat was weird00:51
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QuantibilityCan anybody help with my startup stalls after update please im using a phone.. anyone?00:55
QuantibilitySo, im in terminal and have net support,  ideas?01:01
xubuntu329I stall xubuntu today and i want to know why the wifi is not working...01:03
xubuntu329Can somebody help me?01:03
HedgeMagexubuntu329: We'll need more specific information in order to help you, but we'll try. :)01:04
xubuntu329okay01:04
HedgeMagexubuntu329: Define "not working" -- what error do you see?  What wifi chipset do you have?  anything else we should know?01:05
QuantibilityHe gets help?01:05
HedgeMageQuantibility: hrm...01:05
QuantibilityCom on01:05
xubuntu329i'm brasilian, so..maybe i will write some wrong words01:05
HedgeMageQuantibility: Relax, he was talking when I glanced over.  I do read backscroll.01:05
QuantibilityThnx01:06
HedgeMageQuantibility: Is this a new install or are you updating an existing one?01:06
QuantibilityUpdating01:06
QuantibilityExisting01:06
xubuntu329how can i see if have?01:07
cfhowlett!br | xubuntu32901:07
ubottuxubuntu329: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.01:07
HedgeMageQuantibility: Please first check that you have not filled up /boot to the point that ubuntu can't write to it01:08
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HedgeMageQuantibility: "du -sh /boot" as root should do the trick.01:08
Quantibility4 days of figuring this out ive done most  things01:09
QuantibilityDone01:09
QuantibilityRestart?01:10
HedgeMageNo, that's just to get info01:10
Quantibility85m /boot01:11
HedgeMageout of how much total?01:11
xubuntu329where i go to update system? (drives too)01:11
QuantibilityUh? 85M01:11
HedgeMageQuantibility: Sorry... "du" stands for "disk usage", it tells you how much of /boot is full, but not how much total space /boot has... for the latter look at the output of "lsblk"01:12
HedgeMageQuantibility: then we know if you have space enough left01:12
QuantibilityJust says 85M01:13
HedgeMageThe most common reason for xubuntu to suddenly become unbootable after update is running out of space in /boot...the default update client is happy to fail silently in this case, much to my dismay01:13
HedgeMageQuantibility: both "lsblk" and "du" show 85M for /boot?  if so, it's full01:13
QuantibilityOk how do I ...01:14
QuantibilityFix it?01:14
xubuntu329at mine don't show any "/boot"...01:20
QuantibilityInteresting how do I make space the right way?01:20
Quantibility HedgeMage: ? Im a little new and I know to be patient. . Its been 4 days01:22
bazhangpastebin the output of lsblk  <-----quan01:23
bazhanghe quit01:23
bazhang!paste | Quantibility01:24
ubottuQuantibility: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:24
QuantibilityI can not start xubuntu.  I can not "paste" I am on a phone.. xubuntu stalls at boot01:25
Quantibility4 days.  Im trying patience.  It difficult.01:26
bazhang<Quantibility> Just says 85M  <---- wheres that from01:26
QuantibilityDu outputs 85M /boot01:27
xubuntu329how to fix my wifi?......01:27
bazhanghow'd you get that if it wont boot Quantibility01:27
HedgeMageQuantibility: Sorry, my son woke up and needed me.01:27
HedgeMageQuantibility: How did you get the 85M number for us?01:28
QuantibilityHedgeMage: honorable01:28
bazhang!wifi | xubuntu329 have a read01:28
xubuntu329...01:29
QuantibilityHedgeMage: I am in (recovery mode) as root with network01:29
Quantibility4 days dude 4 days01:30
bazhangQuantibility, give us the output of lsblk01:30
HedgeMageQuantibility: So you are in recovery mode booting to your installed xubuntu, or you are using a liveCD?01:30
HedgeMageQuantibility: Because "I booted into recovery mode" and "I can't boot" are VERY different scenarios.01:30
QuantibilityNo.  HedgeMage installed.01:30
QuantibilityHedgeMage: im a noob? Does that help?01:31
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HedgeMagebrb, kid agai01:32
HedgeMage8again01:32
QuantibilityOk gimme time I got output01:33
ubottuxubuntu329 have a read: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:33
QuantibilitySda01:33
xubuntu329people sad to me change to xubuntu 13.1001:33
cfhowlettxubuntu329, then you talked to the wrong people.  13.10 is end of life and not supported.01:34
QuantibilitySda1.      Si    Sda201:34
QuantibilityUgh01:34
xubuntu329uowl01:34
xubuntu329so..01:35
QuantibilityCan I just take a pic and post somewhere?01:35
xubuntu329i will check this web site..01:35
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:35
cfhowlettxubuntu329, 14.04 and 12.04 are supported.01:35
QuantibilityWheere can I put pictures of output?01:35
cfhowlett!paste | Quantibility01:36
ubottuQuantibility: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:36
HedgeMageQuantibility: imagebin works, as does imgur01:36
xubuntu329my brother installed lubuntu a long time ago..but he had the same problem..after that he installed the xunbutu, an it works...01:41
QuantibilityUgh thats was http://ibin.co/1a8sLpuZYO5I HedgeMage01:41
* HedgeMage looks01:42
HedgeMageQuantibility: Okay, good...that is a start...now we know that /boot is not overfull.01:42
HedgeMageQuantibility: Are you able to do "apt-get update" in recovery mode?01:43
HedgeMageIf you got a bad package, it may have been fixed by now, and we can check for new packages and install them.01:43
QuantibilityYes im networked01:43
cfhowlettxubuntu329, what does your terminal tell you about this:  cat /etc/issue01:43
HedgeMageQuantibility: then after "apt-get update" do "apt-get upgrade"01:44
QuantibilityOk01:44
HedgeMageQuantibility: then reboot and see if it helped...if not, we'll troubleshoot further.01:44
QuantibilitySure01:44
xubuntu329let me see01:44
QuantibilityThats new to me been waiting for updates01:45
xubuntu329is just digit that at?01:46
cfhowlettxubuntu329,     cat /etc/issue01:46
xubuntu329that:       ubuntu 14.04. 1  LTS \ n \ L01:48
QuantibilityHedgeMage: crosses fingers01:49
HedgeMagegood luck, Quantibility !01:49
cfhowlett!details |xubuntu329, good.  now ... details of your issue!01:49
ubottuxubuntu329, good.  now ... details of your issue!: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)01:49
xubuntu329okay01:50
xubuntu329i will try to explain01:50
QuantibilityHedgeMage: YAY!01:50
QuantibilityUH01:50
QuantibilityWait01:51
HedgeMageQuantibility: I take it you are booting normally now?01:51
xubuntu329my wirelless don't have conection...like..am..Don't have any option to connect via wifi....01:52
QuantibilityHedgeMage: nope still broke01:53
HedgeMage:/01:53
QuantibilityGiving output01:53
xubuntu329just with cable01:53
cfhowlett!wifi | xubuntu32901:56
ubottuxubuntu329: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:56
xubuntu329i have already saw that....01:56
QuantibilityHedgeMage: no sir still stuck stops at *stopping  send an event to indicate Plymouth is up [ok]01:56
HedgeMageQuantibility: have you tried interactive boot?01:57
QuantibilityUh? 0_001:58
QuantibilityNo?01:58
* HedgeMage wonders if a default xubuntu install allows that01:58
QuantibilityIt be nice01:58
QuantibilityI got the disk running. ..01:59
QuantibilityI need this comp up01:59
QuantibilityI wanna not reinstall01:59
cfhowlettQuantibility, you're stuck in windows thinking.  NO ONE said you must reinstall.02:00
QuantibilityYeah I know02:00
cfhowlettQuantibility, HedgeMage suggested interactive boot - a great suggestion!02:00
QuantibilityDont know how02:00
xubuntu329and about this comand              sudo apt-get update02:00
Quantibilityolease describe procedure02:01
HedgeMageQuantibility: Sorry I'm slow...I have a kid who keeps trying to be awake and am troubleshooting my bf's Slackware breakage02:01
cfhowlettHedgeMage, ewww ... TMI!02:01
cfhowlettHedgeMage, oh, wait ... software ... ewww!02:01
QuantibilityLol02:01
QuantibilityHedgeMage: I just need. It up soo02:02
QuantibilityN02:02
QuantibilitySoon02:02
HedgeMageQuantibility: Understood, doing my best02:02
* cfhowlett not gonna say it - not gonna say it ..02:02
* HedgeMage wonders if pointing out that she has three boyfriends, all of whom are Linux users, will make cfhowlett's head explode02:04
cfhowlettHedgeMage, *boom*  ... mind ... blown   :)02:04
HedgeMagelol02:05
HedgeMageQuantibility: Okay, back for the moment...02:05
QuantiliveCDHedge02:05
HedgeMageWelcome back :)02:05
QuantiliveCDHedgeMage: i opted for the live Cd so i can freaking type, its anoying using the phone02:06
HedgeMageQuantiliveCD: Okay, so there are a few things that might be wrong, we just need to figure out which one it really is.02:06
HedgeMageNP, understood02:06
HedgeMageQuantiliveCD: If you remember exactly which packages were installed/updated during the update that broke your system, that would be helpful.  If not, that's okay we'll work around it, we just may need to test more things.02:07
QuantiliveCDi think honestly its the cups02:07
QuantiliveCDlike i said 4 days02:07
HedgeMageWell, then, let's disable cups and see you you can boot normally thereafter02:07
QuantiliveCDso, boot my disk from live?02:08
QuantiliveCDuh can i boot my disk from live?02:08
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HedgeMageQuanitbility: While you are booted to the livecd, I want to have you pastebin some log files from your hard drive that might help with diagnostics02:10
Quanitbilitysure02:10
Quanitbilityabsolutely02:10
HedgeMageQuanitbility: are you familiar with mounting your HD partitions while using the livecd?02:10
QuanitbilityHedgemage, uh well im familiar with mounting and im familiar with partitions02:11
HedgeMageQuanitbility: mount whatever partition on your HD contains /var/log, and we'll go from there02:12
QuanitbilityI need to gain access to the drive. how do i do that?02:12
Quanitbilityright mount02:13
HedgeMageQuanitbility: if it's dmcrypted (which the output of your lsblk suggests is likely), the graphical thing when you double-click the partition on your desktop on the livecd will prompt for the pw02:13
HedgeMageotherwise I can give you the manual commands to do via command line02:13
Quanitbilityyea please02:13
Quanitbilitynever mind02:14
Quanitbilityhold on02:14
Quanitbilitywell it said failed but? i have access?02:15
HedgeMageweird02:15
HedgeMagesee if you can get to /var/log and read log files02:16
Quanitbilitywell i thought i missed a letter in my password02:16
QuanitbilityHedgeMage: Yes02:17
Quanitbilitydpkg/02:17
Quanitbility?02:17
HedgeMageQuanitbility: Okay, so I'm about to fall over/asleep...I'll do what I can to check a few things first, but if I turn into a pumpkin on you we can always pick up tomorrow, or someone else here can try to help.02:18
Quanitbilitylol02:18
Quanitbilityok02:18
HedgeMage/var/log/dmesg may have useful info on exactly what went wrong when you tried to boot02:22
Quanitbilityiok02:22
Quanitbilitypatebin?02:22
HedgeMage/var/log/syslog may also have helpful info02:22
HedgeMagethere's also a boot.log02:22
HedgeMage(same place)02:23
Quanitbilityyes02:23
HedgeMagedpkg.log may tell you about an error during installs/upgrades that wasn't shown to you02:23
HedgeMagecheck those for anything interesting and/or pastebin and share the links here to get others to look02:23
Quanitbilityok02:23
Quanitbilitysyslog syslog1?02:24
Quanitbilityor both?02:24
HedgeMagethe other thing I mentioned -- interactive boot -- may be helpful...I forget how to trigger it on xubuntu, so you'll have to look that up...but the general idea is that it lets you say yes/no to starting each service at boot time so you can test a few different things and see if you can figure out which service is interfering with boot02:24
HedgeMageQuanitbility: the one with no number is most recent02:24
HedgeMageQuanitbility: so that's probably what you want02:24
Quanitbilityok02:24
HedgeMageif you need more history look at the numbered ones02:24
HedgeMageanyway, I'm going to sleep.02:25
xubuntu053can anybody pass the pt link?02:25
xubuntu053please02:25
Quanitbilityheh02:25
HedgeMageI have family stuff tomorrow, but will be online for several hours also.02:25
HedgeMageIf I'm online I'll be in here02:25
* HedgeMage waves and departs02:25
QuanitbilityWHICH does anyone wanna see first02:25
Quanitbilityhttp://pastebin.com/tWhGiiGi SYSLOG02:27
holsteinQuanitbility: did you purge all your ppa's?02:28
QuanitbilityHolstein02:29
Quanitbilityno02:29
Quanitbilityim providing some info right now02:29
holsteinQuanitbility: any ppa can be causing your issue..02:29
holsteinQuanitbility: also, did you try an xorg.conf with vesa driver?02:29
Quanitbilityhttp://pastebin.com/29sSzySF Dmesg02:29
holsteinQuanitbility: you can always take those to #ubuntu if you want to get more eyes on them02:31
holsteinQuanitbility: how about the vesa driver?02:31
Quanitbilitythe what?02:31
Quanitbilityhttp://pastebin.com/WJPhJ8Y2 boot.log02:32
umbridgewould someone be so kind as copy/paste me the contents of an xfce/xubuntu usr/share/xsessions .desktop file?02:32
holsteinQuanitbility: when you were here last, i suggested trying the older kernel.. you stated you did, and the issues were still persiting.. i asked i you have PPA"s and suggested puring them.. with..02:32
holstein!infor ppa-purge02:32
holstein!info ppa-purge02:32
ubottuppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr57 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 44 kB02:32
holsteinQuanitbility: i also suggested, when you mentioned an nvidia proprietary driver, trying the vesa driver with a custom xorg.conf that linked from here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127020902:34
holsteinQuanitbility: you would put that xorg.conf in place to "bypass" your current driver setup02:34
holsteinQuanitbility: i also suggeted trying a live CD that you know works, or a supported operating sytem to make sure the hardware is functioning properly?02:35
holsteinQuanitbility: if you want to link log files for volunteers to look at, you can try #ubuntu or the main ubuntu mailing list02:35
Quanitbilityholstein im on live cd right now02:35
Quanitbilityi got tired of the phone02:35
holsteinQuanitbility: great.. then, you can easily put that xorg.conf in place and test.. and while you are booted, purge the unsupported sources that may be breaking your system02:36
umbridgeneed the contents of the xfce.desktop or xubuntu.desktop from /usr/share/xessions/ please02:42
cfhowlettumbridge, http://ur1.ca/i6fh102:44
cfhowlettumbridge, /usr/share/xsessions/02:45
umbridgecfhowlett danke02:45
cfhowlettumbridge, bitte02:45
QuanitbilityHolstein, how?03:01
Quanitbilitywah03:01
Quanitbilitywait03:01
holsteinQuanitbility: ?03:03
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Quanitbilitydude, xorg.conf in place of what, where?03:04
Quanitbilitysorry was having a problem with my freaking touch pad03:05
Quanitbilitynow i can type in peace03:05
holsteinQuanitbility: sure. take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127020903:05
holsteinQuanitbility: this is a way to use the "failsafe" vesa driver for your system graphics as a test03:06
Quanitbilityholstein, why do you suspect that there are problems with my drivers? i do not have Nvidia drivers,03:07
holsteinQuanitbility: you stated last time you had nvidia hardware03:08
Quanitbilitywell, thats what happens when you don't allow for someone typing on a phone.03:08
holsteinQuanitbility: imnot following you.. but, the vesa driver is a way to force a failsafe graphics environment.. if you feel you need that03:10
holsteinQuanitbility: have you purged your PPA's? have you shared what unsupported sources you are using?03:11
Quanitbilityi am no longer typing on the phone, actually im being very patient right now, very very patient, i would like my system to be in working order, it is from an update, i had said this several times. im irritated right now, and im being patient. please, lets get down to business here fix the problem.  My computer stalls at boot up, and when i install previous kernals the screen just goes blank, it has not done this before. there i03:14
Quanitbilitys no problems with my equipment, and i don't understand which porprioty  freaking drivers your talking about. I need my system up in working order soon, i have a deadline to keep. im irritated holstein, very irritated, please PROVIDE me some freaking commands i should try, REMIND yourself that im in live cd mode, and im very irritated for four days. please provide some code that gives you the input you need.03:14
Quanitbilityalso remind yourself im a noob, so just telling me doesn't really help.03:15
holsteinQuanitbility: you should be able to do the work with the live CD>. i would just reinstall if i were "Under the gun" so to speak, and revert to my backups03:15
holsteinQuanitbility: im not a person that can "provide you some code" that can fix what you have done03:15
holsteinQuanitbility: i can only volunteer some ways you can troubleshoot..03:16
Quanitbilitywow, you just redefined the definition of pissing someone off you know that holstein. ugGH! thank you for your help so far.03:17
holsteinQuanitbility: please try and watch the language.. i understand youa re frustrated, and will leave you for another volunteer.. try the main #ubuntu channel, since it is more populated, and you dont have a xubuntu /xfce specific issue03:17
holsteinQuanitbility: the PPA"s you have added, if you would like to share what those are, can be breaking your system... its a good idea if you want "stability" not to use ppa's trivially03:19
cfhowlettQuanitbility, for instant answers, consider purchasing support directly from canonical.  otherwise, endure the volunteers who attempt to help. your attitude matters.03:19
Quanitbilityi would love too.03:19
holsteinQuanitbility: you would "love to", what?03:19
Quanitbilityslow down my friend, i promised you ive watched my language thus far. I know the rules my friend im trying to calm down. im trying to think about the problem then blowing up at you i know its not your fault. but i don't really care, do you understand that? please, i know the rules here perfectly, don't 'remind' me, or ill break the rules because god gave me free will. im behaving. don't remind me. now. i thank you for your help03:24
Quanitbility. but the your question to "Love to", what? was the Answer to "Sharing" any all information with any or all individuals that would help with my problem03:24
cfhowlettQuanitbility, "don't remind me or I'll violate the rules"  Threats? OK, so we now understand each other.  /added to ignore list03:25
holsteinQuanitbility: ok.. whare what ppa's you have added, please.. those are usupported sources that can break things.. and i will be glad to look at those03:25
Quanitbilitywhy the heck is everyone so damn cerebral and actual and factual based brains in here? I've changed to a system that i think is better but im just not getting anywhere, now i have problems ... ugh never mind03:26
holsteinQuanitbility: i suggest a fresh install, and *dont* add sources such as PPA"s if you need the system to be "Stable".. its a good rule on any OS to have good backups and a good stradegy for recovery03:27
Quanitbilitythreats or being a full breed american who beleives in opening his mouth when ever i please, if your offended then thats you, but you choose the time to read it when it wasn't really tward you.03:27
Quanitbilityholstein i agree03:28
holsteinQuanitbility: id be glad to talk about those stradegies03:28
Quanitbilitywhere do i go03:28
holsteinQuanitbility: i would go to "install" from the live CD, and reinstall and *dont* add 3rd party sources03:29
Quanitbilityshow me a link i apologize to the lot of ya, but ignoring me is just proving that people should not be in here, im not flooding,  or anything of the sort i have opinions, not threats.03:29
holsteinthe 3 2 1 rule for backups is a great place to start.. dont spend 4 days trying to "Fix" something that you dont understand how you broke03:29
Quanitbilityi have back up but03:30
holstein!guidelines03:30
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines03:30
Quanitbilityim afraid its not a full back up though and im afraid to use it03:30
holsteinQuanitbility: you need to address that fear.. the hard drive you are using *will* fail.. you should plan for that failure, and you will be better off in the long run03:31
Quanitbilityholstein, you sound like a text book, yes, i understand that. but the back up software wasn't finished even when showing 100%03:32
holsteinQuanitbility: i dont mean to sound like "a text book".. i mean to sound like a friendly volunteer, who is volunteering time to you03:32
holsteinQuanitbility: done use "backup software".. use the live CD to grab data with a file manager..03:32
holsteinyou can just literally click and drag the files over... watch them go, and know they are backed up.. then, you can reinstall and have a better plan for the future, where you dont break the system03:33
Quanitbilityi guess idon't really undestnad that conce[pt03:36
Quanitbilityim just tired03:36
Quanitbilitydays03:36
holsteinQuanitbility: it takes me about 8 minutes to reinsatll03:36
Quanitbilityand onlyone person the help me, then the other cunt ignored me.. im done for the day.03:36
holsteinwow..03:36
cfhowlett... true colors revealed.03:37
cfhowlettholstein, thanks for trying - you've more patience/faith in humanity than I do.03:38
holsteincfhowlett: i bet we get another shot with that user03:38
cfhowlettholstein, I bet I won't join in.  In fact, I'd suggest a lifetime ban, but then I have zero tolerance for rank idiocy.03:39
Unit193cfhowlett: Your comments of agitation really don't help, though.03:40
cfhowlettUnit193, ... agitation?  Quanitbility, for instant answers, consider purchasing support directly from canonical.  otherwise, endure the volunteers who attempt to help. your attitude matters.03:41
cfhowlettUnit193, ... perhaps.  I'll restrain myself in future.03:42
Unit193cfhowlett: Thank you.03:42
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Vampiприветики :)05:09
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pedrohi10:35
pedrofor you10:36
alkethi , is there any font installer for xubuntu ?11:40
cfhowlettalket, sudo apt-get install FontPackageNameHere11:41
alketcfhowlett, i have the font siting in my download folder11:41
alkethow do i install it11:41
alketin unity the font viewer/installer was opened11:41
cfhowlettalket, unity? in xubuntu?  ask in the #ubuntu channel.11:42
alketplease try to understand11:42
alketi cleary state that I use ubuntu , but can't install a font that i downloaded , i took unity as example , when i opened a ttf format , the font viewer was opened and let me install it easily11:43
deshipualket: you make a directory .fonts in your home, and copy the font file there11:43
alketdeshipu, any app that does that ?11:43
deshipualket: yes, file manager11:43
alketthanks11:44
deshipualket: then you run fc-cache to reload the font cache11:44
alketthanks11:44
deshipuyou can have subdirectories in .fonts to organize your fonts better11:45
alketdeshipu, thanks very much11:49
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xubuntu947Are there any details about the minimal install in 14.10b1 available?13:40
elfyxubuntu947: what details do you want?13:42
xubuntu947From the blog: "information on installation and testing will follow shortly". But I can't find any!?13:43
elfythat's because we've not done it yet13:44
xubuntu947I just downloaded the beta. Can I already test the minimal install?13:44
xubuntu947I see. What is minimal in this case? Is it like the Ubuntu mini.iso?13:45
elfythe minimal is the same iso - then install the specific xubuntu minimal from tasksel - you can even test if for everyone http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/315/builds/76947/testcases13:47
knomes/can/should/13:48
xubuntu947Okay, thanks!13:49
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xubuntu947Bear with me but I'm too dumb to run the test case ^^ What do you mean by "then install the specific xubuntu minimal from tasksel"?14:33
elfywhen the install gets to the tasksel part, choose xubuntu minimal - looks like http://guruadmin.ru/uploads/up-new/ubuntu-tasksel-command.png14:34
xubuntu947Okay then there is a essential misunderstandingon my side since I tried to install the beta.14:35
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elfyxubuntu947: the beta 64 or 32 bit image - if so that's not the minimal14:36
xubuntu947You meant the mini.iso not the beta? (<elfy> the minimal is the same iso)14:37
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elfyyea - the mini.iso is the same for *buntu - nothing is different until you actually start installing apps/DE's14:38
UTC24Hello and good morning, a little disapointed this morning in Xubuntu. I did a small update via software update center, less than 10mb. After update my wifi no longer works after working fine for ... six months or more. Also now there is an issue on shutdown where it hangs after deactivating swap. I am really tired of having to redo system installs for issues like this. I cannot figure how to even check which files where upgraded so I could ask how to roll back15:02
UTC24 those upgrades15:02
brainwashUTC24: take a look at /var/log/apt/history.log15:03
UTC24will do thanks15:07
xubuntu947Now the minimal install worked, thanks!15:17
UTC24So here is what was upgraded15:18
UTC24cups-core-drivers:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), cups-server-common:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), libharfbuzz-icu0:amd64 (0.9.27-1, 0.9.27-1ubuntu1), libcups2:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), cups-daemon:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), libcupsmime1:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), libgudev-1.0-0:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.5, 204-5ubuntu20.6), cups-client:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), libcupsi15:18
UTC24mage2:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), xserver-xorg-core:amd64 (1.15.1-0ubuntu2, 1.15.1-0ubuntu2.1), flashplugin-installer:amd64 (11.2.202.400ubuntu0.14.04.1, 11.2.202.406ubuntu0.14.04.1), libnss3-1d:amd64 (3.15.4-1ubuntu7, 3.15.4-1ubuntu7.1), cups:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), linux-firmware-nonfree:amd64 (1.14ubuntu1, 1.14ubuntu3), libharfbuzz0b:amd64 (0.9.27-1, 0.9.27-1ubuntu1), xserver-common:amd64 (1.15.1-0ubuntu2, 1.15.1-0ubuntu215:18
UTC24.1), libnss3-nssdb:amd64 (3.15.4-1ubuntu7, 3.15.4-1ubuntu7.1), gir1.2-gudev-1.0:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.5, 204-5ubuntu20.6), cups-bsd:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), libnss3:amd64 (3.15.4-1ubuntu7, 3.15.4-1ubuntu7.1), libcupscgi1:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), libcupsppdc1:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), cups-common:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2), cups-ppdc:amd64 (1.7.2-0ubuntu1.1, 1.7.2-0ubuntu1.2)15:18
knome!pastebin | UTC2415:18
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UTC24Can anyone tell me how to roll back those upgrades?15:21
UTC24or why any of them could cause issues with shut down or wifi?15:21
bazhangthere's no downgrade other than installing from backups15:24
UTC24qawsg]yui15:26
UTC24Guess I should have been using  acronis15:27
UTC24Thanks later15:27
brainwashUTC24: could be bug 136809315:28
ubottubug 1368093 in linux-firmware-nonfree (Ubuntu) "linux-firmware-nonfree missing files after update (precise)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136809315:28
brainwashthis package has been updated recently in 12.04 and 14.0415:29
UTC24ok that might be it... I use15:35
UTC24http://paste.ubuntu.com/8335511/15:36
UTC24Which uses a non-free driver15:37
UTC24I have followed many different threads on how to fix the wifi and non have worked15:38
cfhowlett!broadcom15:39
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:39
UTC24Yes I already followed that one too15:40
UTC24all my network devices show up fine15:41
brainwashdownload the initial version https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux-firmware-nonfree_1.14ubuntu1_all.deb and install it15:41
UTC24http://paste.ubuntu.com/8335546/15:41
brainwashUTC24: and I suggest that you add your findings to the linked bug report15:42
brainwashor create a new one if the problem isn't the same after all15:43
UTC24Ok will do... Sorry I am new to trying  to be part of the community15:44
UTC24Thanks for patience15:44
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Bl4ckSh4d0whello15:55
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lain_rHey, people, can someone help me mixing together xfce & i3 window manager?16:52
baizon!ask | lain_r16:56
ubottulain_r: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:56
lain_rSorrrry!:) I've got a new xubuntu installation and I want to use xfce with i3 window manager. I've seen variants like changing fallback session but it didn't work for me: some other xfce process started before i3 and grabbed all the keybindings. Afterwards I changed xfwm4 binary to a script which launches i3 window manager, but this way it fails after restoring from suspend. I don't know how to do that other way, because I'd like to use x16:59
lain_rfce-session instead of bare xinitrc16:59
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steinerleingood morning #xubuntu18:49
steinerleinI would like to install xubuntu on a powerbook G4, which is a powerpc. I cannot find out which version I would have to download..18:50
GridCube!powerpc18:51
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ18:51
steinerleinFor 12.04 I can only find AMD64 and x8618:51
sleeziohello, whats a good app(or process) for monitoring a proam to see if it's phoning home on startup?18:51
sleezio*program18:51
GridCuberead what ubottu said18:51
sleezioi'd like to see the server it's pinging on startup...if it is18:52
steinerleinokay, so there is no version of 12.04 for ppc?18:54
GridCube!edgy18:54
ubottuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) was the fifth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 25th, 2008. See !eol for more details.18:54
GridCube^18:54
GridCubewas the last one with support to ppc18:55
steinerleinoh wow, okay..18:55
GridCubesee the community port18:55
steinerleinAlright, got it! Thanks a bunch! I'll use the mini.iso and then install xubuntu18:57
GridCubegood luck19:00
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romelbacchushey20:00
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newbohey guys. where are the shortcuts file in xubuntu? can i edit it like: vim /etc/something/shortcuts22:03
deshipunewbo: which shortcuts?22:06
newbolike open whiskersmenu22:07
deshipukeyboard shortcuts?22:07
newbodeshipu: yes22:07
newbodeshipu: i want to make a shortcuts file and put it whenever i format my computer22:07
newbodeshipu: to not lose time22:08
newboor, "not to lose time"22:08
deshipu.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml and .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml22:08
newbodeshipu: wow. you memorized that? oh man oh man...22:09
deshipumake a copy before you edit them22:09
deshipuno, I just checked22:09
newbodeshipu: how did you check it?22:09
newbojust curious22:09
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deshipuI looked in the .config directory in my home directory22:09
newbodeshipu: wow man. you're a pro. thank you very much.22:10
newboi'm impressed22:10
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newbodeshipu: hey man. ican't edit my wifi settings. why can that be?22:24
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jarloyz_hola23:04
jarloyz_hello23:04
jarloyz_can someone help me?23:04
jarloyz_hello?23:07
ku0hello23:56
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