[01:21] bellcha83, ping [01:21] Hey [01:21] nope [01:21] pong [01:21] :) [01:21] pong [01:21] !ping [01:21] pong! [01:21] :D [01:22] hey so tell me a bit about your background with ubuntu [01:22] My name is akiva btw; I live on the west coast of Canada, so my hours of operation sort of fit that schedule [01:22] Ubuntu was my first distro to use about 5 years ago and have been using Linux off and on since then. [01:23] ah very cool [01:23] are you using it right now? [01:23] and 5 years ago; pretty early adopter [01:23] Bellcha here, live on the southern coast of US [01:23] 14.04 [01:23] Yes [01:23] okay great [01:24] so you have a bit of experience with programming and the terminal, but nothing extensive I take it? [01:24] Correct [01:24] very cool [01:25] well do you have an idea where you want to start, or do you want some suggestions? [01:26] Mostly looking for suggestions. What is most needed that a novice can help with and then move up from there. [01:26] bellcha83, Good question [01:26] the first thing to do, which is just practical, is to set up a launchpad account [01:27] What language should I begin to learn, programs need, etc. [01:27] the fun ones. I always like starting with python [01:27] because when you use it, it works well with your daily experience on ubuntu as well [01:28] what I used to do is actually use a collaborative editor to program with other users on. [01:28] its sort of like google docs in that way [01:28] bellcha83, do you know what launchpad is? [01:29] Yes heading there now to create an account [01:29] okay great; do that, and ping me when you are done [01:30] Looks like I already had an account since I used Ubuntu One [01:31] ha ha great [01:31] so launchpad is where you can host all your code [01:32] so the next thing to do, is download bazaar explorer [01:32] (this is the boring stuff btw - the first hurdle;) [01:34] Ok [01:35] From launchpad or in the repos? [01:35] the repos [01:39] bellcha83, http://codebunk.com/b/6577480/ come over here [01:39] I think we can start coding here :) [01:40] let me know if you can type [01:40] Ok [01:40] Installing bazaar [01:41] bellcha83, codebunk, that link I showed you, will allow us to write code [01:41] and run it live [01:41] really easy to learn with [01:42] bellcha83, http://codebunk.com/b/6577480/ [01:44] bellcha83, hello? [01:45] I'm here [01:45] bellcha83, go to that link [01:45] Go to the URL in bazaar? [01:45] http://codebunk.com/b/6577480/ [01:45] http://codebunk.com/b/6577480/ [01:45] http://codebunk.com/b/6577480/ [01:45] http://codebunk.com/b/6577480/ [01:45] that link [01:45] not in bazaar [01:46] just in firefox [01:46] are you able to get there? [02:04] !ping [02:04] pong! [03:14] vidTollens, in here; I hate pm's [03:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 [03:16] vidTollens, so this is a good way to start [03:17] we will pick a very easy bug [03:17] and then fixing it is very straight forward [03:17] good [03:18] okay one sec, i got to do some code bunk [03:18] I got a good bug in mind for you though :) [03:20] vidTollens, alright, let him chew on that [03:20] okay [03:20] sec [03:20] vidTollens, oh have you been able to run the application yet? [03:21] you should be able to run it by pressing the green arrow [03:21] or by pressing left alt, (to bring up the hud), and then typing "Run" [03:21] I'll try [03:21] cool [03:23] well, I didn't see any bugs [03:24] but this "Could not open desktop file for reading" message appears [03:24] vidTollens, did the app run? [03:24] did a calender application pop up? [03:24] nope [03:26] okay sorry juggling again [03:27] it's ok [03:28] vidTollens, you should have seen this http://i.imgur.com/RKIBaDZ.png [03:28] vidTollens, do you have teamviewer? [03:29] http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb [03:29] this makes desktop sharing easy [03:31] let me download it [03:35] cool ping me when you get done [03:36] vidTollens, btw, do you have shutter? That is a really easy way to share desktop images [03:36] I use it all the time [03:36] it can export directly to imgur making it really useful for programming [03:39] yeah, I got it [03:39] cool beans [03:40] * Akiva-Thinkpad doesnt have it >_< [03:40] sec [03:40] brb, stupid os bug [03:40] 14.10 alpha :P [03:41] restarting computer [03:41] I have really annoying suspend and resume issues [03:42] lel === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [03:46] vidTollens, sorry bout that === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:47] don't worry [03:47] did it restarted automatically? [03:47] restart* [03:48] no, I had to force it [03:48] 14.10 and suspend does not like me [03:50] lel [03:50] okay team viewer installing [03:50] btw, I got teamviewer [03:50] yep [03:50] should have it in a sec [03:54] trying to run it [03:55] ah there it goes [03:55] oh [03:55] well, I hope this is not an issue [03:55] but I have python 2.7 [03:56] shouldnt be [03:56] do you want to try team viewer? [03:57] yep [03:57] okay open it up [03:57] ill let you try mine first [03:58] sec [04:00] vidTollens, okay i'll let you connect to mine [04:00] 648 859 682 [04:00] thats my id [04:01] 9120 [04:01] thats the pass [04:01] okay [04:02] so you tried that right? [04:02] yep [04:02] and no dice? [04:02] nope [04:03] do you want to switch? [04:03] yep [04:03] okay whats your id? [04:03] 805 162 192 [04:03] 7631 [04:07] vidTollens, I think you need the latest sdk [04:07] yours is 5.2, mine is 5.3 [04:08] nik90: I am positive that the problem is caused by the click. Most likely the recent changes are not backward compatible. Please check with mvo. [04:08] download synaptic package manager [04:08] Akiva-Thinkpad yep, I got it [04:08] vidTollens, oh great [04:08] open it [04:08] and search for ... lets see [04:08] let me upgrade it [04:08] yah [04:08] do your updates [04:08] and when you install, try installing the -dev version [04:09] just gonna check my own [04:13] vidTollens, ah you know what; I think I goofed; you actually do need a ppa [04:13] vidTollens, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk [04:16] I just was doing that [04:16] hahaha [04:16] vidTollens, :D [04:16] you are my test subject; I will know how to help people better in the future [04:18] great, so I'm contributing to the project now [04:18] hahaha [04:18] ha; its part of the hoops you have to jump through [04:19] might as well start looking at the bugs [04:20] vidTollens, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1369024 [04:20] Launchpad bug 1369024 in Ubuntu Calendar App "New Event should show day name, (Sun, Mon, Tue, etc)" [Medium,Confirmed] [04:20] this iis a good one to start with [04:20] first thing to do is assign yourself to this bug [04:21] good, I'll take a look [04:21] hope I can solve that [04:21] don't worry; I'll walk you through it [04:22] I'll give you hints of how to find the [04:22] bug in question [04:23] vidTollens, make sure you assign yourself to the bug [04:23] click the yellow circle beside Unassigned [04:24] done [04:25] Awesome [04:25] i'm gonna get some coffee (i'm at the doughnut shop atm) brb [04:25] ping me when you updated the sdk to 5.3 etc [04:25] yep [04:32] got my mocha [04:36] will you stay up all night? [04:43] vidTollens, till i'm tired [04:43] vidTollens, you get 5.3 installed? [04:43] I know you said your internet is slow [04:43] so [04:43] :P [04:43] well [04:43] I got 5.2.1 [04:43] yah, I have 5.3 [04:44] damn [04:44] and I am pretty sure this is what you need to get this up and running [04:44] maybe [04:44] because I tried again [04:44] and now I got this -"Ubuntu.SyncMonitor" is not installed- error [04:45] hmmmm [04:45] sec [04:45] sounds familiar [04:45] ok [04:46] vidTollens, yah search for syncmonitor [04:46] in synaptic [04:47] i have a package for that [04:47] so === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [04:48] vidTollens, you find it? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:49] nope [04:49] sec [04:49] oh yeah [04:49] lol [04:49] okay [04:49] sync-monitor [04:49] hahaha [04:50] http://i.imgur.com/foplSgH.jpg [04:50] yep [04:50] that [04:52] vidTollens, did you try running again? [04:55] still downloading [04:55] well, first I was looking for the package from your screenshot [04:56] but couldn't find it [04:56] when you installed the ppa, did you update the repositories? [04:57] vidTollens, try adding this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily/ubuntu [04:57] yep [04:57] wait [04:59] I think i'll restart [04:59] I think I know the problem [04:59] brb === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:20] Akiva I don't remember if I told you my version, but it's 14.04 === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [06:32] vidTollens, oh [06:32] you lied! [06:32] I asked you if it was 14.10!!! [06:32] I think :P [06:32] sec [06:33] must have been my imagination [06:38] hahaha I can't remember neither [06:39] heh [06:39] did you try and build after installing the sync monitor? === dpniel is now known as DanChapman [07:37] any UI kit folks available ? got question [07:38] mihir, ah hey [07:39] Akiva I just reinstalled sync-monitor, and reinstalled ubuntu-sdk [07:39] vidTollens, ah cool beans [07:39] vidTollens, did you try running it? [07:39] but when running the app, the software just closed [07:40] any debug or error message? [07:40] no [07:40] suddenly it closes [07:40] oh it opens briefly just to close? [07:40] nope [07:40] teamviewer? [07:41] ok [07:41] hey Akiva-Thinkpad :) [07:41] mihir, think I had some screenshots for you [07:42] mihir [07:42] errm [07:42] 805 162 192 [07:42] 5642 [07:42] http://i.imgur.com/5gHFdD7.png [07:42]

http://i.imgur.com/ReqZl60.png [07:42] cool [07:46] Akiva-Thinkpad: so we'll have buttons of all events [07:46] mihir, of all day events [07:47] mihir, actually what I was thinking, and I think you did this too [07:47] is replace the headers with the september 2004 or whatever [07:47] 2014 labels [07:47] to have max vert space [07:49] mihir, vidTollens is segfaulting on trying to run applications in the sdk [07:49] I have no clue why or how that can be happening [07:49] any ideas? [07:50] like I just tried making a untitled template app, and the sdk just segfaulted as soon as I pressed "Run" [07:51] vidTollens, bad question; but did you restart your computer after your massive update? [07:51] yep [07:51] jeepers [07:51] but, I think I know [07:51] yah? [07:51] I guess [07:51] Akiva-Thinkpad: yup , so what we'll do is, will remove View Header, TimelineHeader and will try to incroporate with header , as we can get more space [07:51] let me try something [07:52] mihir, exactly my thoughts [07:52] vidTollens: do you have any error logs? [07:52] mihir, it says core dumped, but I don't know where the segfault goes to [07:52] mihir, he has team viewer, if you want to give it a run [07:52] ahhh, strage.. [07:52] vidTollens: can you try any other core apps, say weahter ? [07:53] mihir, we tried calendar app, and tried making a new app from a template [07:53] and both just segfaulted on run [07:53] Akiva-Thinkpad: on utopic or trusty? [07:53] hes on 14.04 [07:54] vidTollens, what is your sdk version? did you manage to get it to 5.3? [07:54] Ahh may be the problem...not sure reagarding that though [07:54] mihir, he has the ppa installed though [07:54] hmm strange.. [07:54] that is really frustrating though that you would need utopic to run it... [07:55] Akiva-Thinkpad: yup sometime it is [07:55] http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/ [07:56] vidTollens: can you try to follow, http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ [07:57] mihir, i'm assuming this : $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools [07:57] can you try running app from terminal ? [07:58] just sayt, calendar-app [07:58] not sure if he has the app installed from the repos [07:58] yeah [07:58] he has a build though [07:58] how do you run it from the build in the terminal? [08:00] nope [08:00] oh [08:00] nope [08:00] vidTollens, run "webbrowser-app" from the term [08:01] I think everyone should have that installed [08:03] got it [08:03] vidTollens, got what? [08:03] but it's just blank [08:04] vidTollens, oh? [08:04] vidTollens, screenshot? [08:04] maybe its your qml libraries [08:04] how old is your 14.04 installation? [08:05] did you do a fresh install, or is this upgraded from like 13.04? [08:05] using wubi :P [08:06] it's from 12.04 [08:07] oh, like [08:07] mmmmmmm [08:07] wait, it just closed [08:07] vidTollens, did you upgrade to 12.10, then to 13.04, etc? [08:09] nope [08:09] directly to 14.04 [08:09] I tried at first to install 14.04 [08:09] okay then it should be fine... [08:09] but I had some problems [08:09] oh? [08:09] o_O [08:09] so started with 12.04 [08:09] O_o [08:09] then upgraded to 14.04 [08:10] very strange [08:10] what kind of problems? [08:10] wireless connection [08:10] How much space do you have on your harddrive? 10 gigs at least? [08:11] that is super strange [08:12] I did partition of 50G for ubuntu [08:12] and 30 for /home [08:12] but now I only have 1.4 left [08:12] brb [08:13] vidTollens, this is not installed with wubi is it? [08:13] okay [08:13] no [08:13] oh wait [08:13] yah nvm [08:13] my bad [08:13] unetbootin [08:14] ...O_o [08:14] so unetbootin does not actually support installs [08:14] * Akiva-Thinkpad was doing this recently [08:14] its for running live environments. [08:23] im back [08:23] well, I did something stupid [08:24] vidTollens, ha? [08:24] with ubuntu-sdk [08:24] I think that could be the problem [08:24] yah? [08:24] do tell [08:26] well, I downloaded qt 5.3 [08:27] and,in ubuntu-sdk, in the qt versions from the options menu [08:27] I added the qmake for 5.3 [08:27] but didn't work [08:28] and then I removed the other qmakes [08:28] and I think that's the reason the app closes [08:28] ah [08:29] vidTollens, well simple solution may be just to install 14.10 on a small patition. You won't need too much space [08:30] vidTollens, btw; This sort of thing happened to me too; quite a bit :P [08:30] still does frankly [08:31] oh great [08:31] ? [08:31] well, not great [08:31] ?? [08:31] but good to know I'm not the only one [08:32] TRUST ME [08:32] that's what I meant [08:32] that is why I made that thread [08:32] because this is the stuff people have to do [08:32] but before dping that [08:32] do you know the location for the other qmakes? [08:33] mmmm [08:33] mihir, do you? [08:33] I wanna try using those qmakes with this sync-monitor I just installed [08:34] yah no real clue [08:35] in my experience, I have found that starting with fresh slates are usually quicker in the long run [08:36] oh [08:36] found it [08:36] :P [08:38] Akiva-Thinkpad: nope , i don't [08:44] didn't work [08:44] so, I think I'll go now [08:44] vidTollens, np [08:44] vidTollens, Will you install 14.10? [08:44] yeah [08:44] I'll make the partition [08:44] cool; ping me tomorrow, [08:44] I can go to bread finally! [08:44] :P [08:44] yeah [08:45] hahaha [08:45] hey good night my russian friend [08:45] ;) [08:45]