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[04:55] <AlbinoGeek> Any idea why I might be getting https://db.tt/7lnOv5mu on an Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 amd64 installation under KVM virtualization with VirtIO attached devices?
[04:55] <AlbinoGeek> Given https://db.tt/44ChesAI partitioning (standard.)
[04:57] <cryptodan> I have a quick quiestion, why was snort-mysql removed from the ubuntu packages in 14.04?
[04:59] <AlbinoGeek> For clarifications sake, the installation was carried out over VNC on KVM, where the host machine is a RedHat 6 KVM hypervisor using kvm-intel.ko on an E5-2620 v2 with vt-x and vt-d enabled.  CentOS 6, CentOS 7, Debian 7.6, ArchLinux, FreeBSD, they all installed perfectly fine.  Only Ubuntu is having this issue.
[05:00] <cryptodan> AlbinoGeek: does your CPU support virtualization
[05:01] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: As I just specified, yes.  Both VT-d and VT-x are enabled on the host machine.  The VM wouldn't even boot to get into the installer if it didn't.
[05:01] <cryptodan> does your VM Software support it?
[05:01] <cryptodan> I have installed Ubuntu on Virtualbox and VM Workstation
[05:02] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: "VM Software"?   The host machine is a RedHat 6 machine using KVM virtualization as a kernel module, and qemu-kvm as the software package.
[05:02] <cryptodan> and they work flawlessly
[05:02] <AlbinoGeek> It does support any Linux variation (x86 and x86_64), as well as other architectures as supported by the host.
[05:02] <AlbinoGeek> As well as many Unix, and Windows.
[05:02] <AlbinoGeek> Ubuntu however, 14.04.1 amd64, is failing to install grub.
[05:03] <cryptodan> check the hard drive format look at /dev/vda as the error message
[05:03] <AlbinoGeek> The specific media used is http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.1-server-amd64.iso
[05:03] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: /dev/vda is a QEMU Virtual SCSI Device, of size 5.120 GB ; standard.
[05:03] <AlbinoGeek> Device prefix: vd , Target: vda , Cache: none
[05:03] <cryptodan> Can you change it
[05:03] <AlbinoGeek> To ?
[05:04] <AlbinoGeek> What, a 1990's IDE device?  Sure, if Ubuntu really requires it.
[05:04] <AlbinoGeek> At the expense of 90% of the system performance.
[05:04] <cryptodan> from /dev/vda to /dev/sda or something like it
[05:04] <cryptodan> or use another hard drive format like VMHD or VDI
[05:04] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: The underlying disk format is currently RAW
[05:05] <AlbinoGeek> I have also tried a qcow2 format image, with the same issue.
[05:05] <AlbinoGeek> All signs point to http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.1-server-amd64.iso being a broken release, from what I can find.
[05:05] <cryptodan> ill try installing it in VMWare Workstation
[05:07] <AlbinoGeek> It works on an IDE device, but that is hardly a solution (/dev/hda ) , as that loses about 90% throughput performance.
[05:08] <cryptodan> try changing it from /dev/vda to /dev/sda
[05:10] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: The Ubuntu installer doesn't even detect the disk when attached as a Paravirtualized SCSI bus.
[05:10] <AlbinoGeek> (it doesn't have the VirtIO drivers, gg canonical.)
[05:11] <cryptodan> sounds like a limition of your virtualization environment and not Ubuntu
[05:12] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: Not sure, Debian 7.6.0 was able to install just fine following the propmpts, as was CentOS 6/7 and ArchLinux Dual
[05:13] <AlbinoGeek> 12.04.(03) doesn't work either, 12.04.04 works though.
[05:13] <cryptodan> so you are unable to select the device in Ubuntu 14.04 so how are you supposed to customize the installation and perform custom disk partitions?
[05:14] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: Only if the device is mounted as a Paravirtualized SCSI device does it fail to select device.
[05:14] <AlbinoGeek> However, if I mount it using standard VirtIO, the device shows fine.
[05:15] <AlbinoGeek> With the vda device, I'm here: https://db.tt/dCgtriQ4
[05:16] <AlbinoGeek> If I go to the GRUB step, it shows the same failure message above.
[05:16] <cryptodan> go up to detect disks
[05:17] <AlbinoGeek> Moment, installer got in a loop of "this prerequisite step wasn't completed blah blah" , apparently the installer doesn't like you backtracking.
[05:17] <AlbinoGeek> Doing a fresh one again on a fresh VM\
[05:18] <AlbinoGeek> Go to this point just fine using /dev/vda : https://db.tt/EvG3Ed2j
[05:20] <cryptodan> what does detect disk show
[05:20] <cryptodan> I want to see that
[05:20] <AlbinoGeek> It doesn't, goes to partitioning immediately.
[05:20] <AlbinoGeek> https://db.tt/voG9DWLp created this pretty standard partitions.
[05:21] <cryptodan> can you not select LVM?
[05:21] <AlbinoGeek> The installer literally shows me (in this order) prompts:
[05:22] <AlbinoGeek> Distro is useless to me without LVM, as you can't online expand an ext4 partition without it, sadly.  And Ubuntu doesn't support installing / onto an XFS partition (?)
[05:22] <cryptodan> it would aid in troubleshooting
[05:22] <AlbinoGeek> True, I'll give a try for the sake of this.
[05:23] <AlbinoGeek> Installer then asks me for package proxy (which I don't have one, so I just enter it.)  It's doing "Configuring Apt..." now.
[05:23] <AlbinoGeek> I select "No Automatic Updates", then only add the "OpenSSH Server" in package selection (leaving all else unchecked.)
[05:24] <cryptodan> also what kernel versions are the others running
[05:25] <Gregor3000> Hello, one question - how feasible is it to run server off a USB stick? what folders would need to be moved to hard disk?
[05:26] <AlbinoGeek> I select "Yes" here: https://db.tt/TtUajQzz
[05:26] <AlbinoGeek> Then: https://db.tt/vZr6hGWY
[05:29] <AlbinoGeek> As I said, it appears to be something wrong with the installation media ,but my checksums match those from the mirror I got it off of.
[05:29] <cryptodan> what kind of ddevice support is there for drives in QEMU?
[05:29] <AlbinoGeek> Which was us.mirrors.kernel.org
[05:30] <AlbinoGeek> cryptodan: Every kernel since 2.6.x supports VirtIO, except Ubuntu's versions; where they seem to frequently remove support for no reason.
[05:30] <AlbinoGeek> Where their upstream (Debian) retains support just fine.
[05:30] <cryptodan> not answering my question
[05:30] <AlbinoGeek> What is your question then?
[05:30] <cryptodan> there are various versions of Virtual Hard Drive TYpes
[05:30] <AlbinoGeek> 10.10 installs fine, 12.04.03 fails, 12.04.04 installs fine, 14.04.1 fails
[05:31] <AlbinoGeek> It's really patchy support.
[05:31] <cryptodan> then dont use ubuntu and stick with Debian, CentOS, and Arch for the different packages
[05:31] <AlbinoGeek> Clients need Ubuntu for their software apparently.
[05:32] <AlbinoGeek> and can't use Debian 7.6.0
[05:32] <cryptodan> they should find out why
[05:32] <AlbinoGeek> If I backtrack to "Detect Disks" again, it goes to https://db.tt/HZIT9ogY
[05:33] <AlbinoGeek> Then immediately goes back to the GRUB2 step, which immediately fails again
[05:34] <AlbinoGeek> This is the error this time: https://db.tt/t3B35AO9 completely different error
[05:35] <AlbinoGeek> If I hit continue: https://db.tt/cfiMEx5u
[05:36] <cryptodan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/455440/guest-on-kvm-wont-detect-disk-even-after-seleting-virtio-drivers try redoing the CD
[05:36] <AlbinoGeek> And then, unsurprisingly, the system fails to boot: https://db.tt/XztYzDsC
[05:36] <AlbinoGeek> Reading the link...
[05:37] <AlbinoGeek> That's pretty unrelated.  My host machine is CentOS 6.5 x86_64 using qemu-kvm and kvm-intel.ko latest versions for the 2.6.x CentOS backports kernel (stock stable.)
[05:38] <AlbinoGeek> The guest machine is the Standard Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 amd64 iso obtained from the mirror URL : http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.1-server-amd64.iso which matches the checksums also contained in the same folder.
[05:39] <AlbinoGeek> The VM itself is created using the following KVM stanard command line: http://pastie.org/private/y1e2cqtaykwz8nsxlgdg
[05:41] <AlbinoGeek> That command line is created by `virsh create` on the following XML file: http://pastie.org/private/olt5f6i5rszatfsg3eojew
[05:42] <AlbinoGeek> . /var/lib/one/datastores/106/1194/disk.0 being a link to the ISO downloaded from the mirror, disk.1 being a qcow2 format file of size 5120M
[15:34] <a1fa> is kvm recommended virtualization configuration?
[15:35] <lordievader> I'd recommended it. But use whatever you are comfortable with.
[15:36] <a1fa> is there a good web frontend for it?
[15:36] <lordievader> a1fa: No idea. The cli and gui are pretty good though.
[15:37] <a1fa> i'm trying to run this box headless
[15:39] <a1fa> virtual box may cut it
[15:39] <a1fa> i've used phpvirtualbox in the past
[20:29] <[1]Tigger> Anyone here?
[20:31] <[1]Tigger> Someone?
[20:56] <lordievader> !ask | [1]Tigger
[20:59] <[1]Tigger> Can someone help me with my dedi im willing to reward if thats the cost of having some help.  im having issues installing... well any os on my dedi iv had kernel install fails  iv had read only errors ect ect
[23:58] <teward> anyone know whether a 4 year old netbook (not very decent processor, 2 GB of RAM) converted to Ubuntu Server system would be able to act as a repository mirror and how long it'd take for it to sync, approximately, for Precise, Trusty, and Utopic?
[23:59] <teward> keeping in mind whatever resources it'd need to update, of course, being that it IS a pretty low-power system