[06:27] <Kilos> morning all
[06:27] <Kilos> hi jpmeijers__ welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:13] <Kilos> yoy of the morning award goes to Xethron 
[08:13] <Kilos> yoyo
[09:06] <Kilos> morning grant_ nice to see you back
[09:12] <grant_> morning Kilos
[09:14] <Xethron> haha
[09:14] <Xethron> sorry Kilos
[09:14] <Kilos> np lad
[09:15] <Kilos> gives me something to comment on
[09:45] <grant_> i've been looking at some presentation software, https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js this is amazing
[09:49] <Kilos> grant_, did you get hold of the other lugs and ask for info on pe area?
[09:51] <Kilos> there must be linux users there, its just finding them that is a job
[10:42] <grant_> Kilos, was not able to get hold of anyone, i'll try again today
[10:43] <Kilos> maybe better during the week too
[10:45] <Kilos> you can ask on #glug.za thats the gauteng guys , but i see they are few as well
[10:45] <Kilos> maybe more action during the week
[10:45] <Kilos> they are on freenode as well
[10:46] <Kilos> oh grant_ another idea too
[10:46] <Kilos> join out mailing list
[10:46] <Kilos> there are many peeps that dont come on here
[10:47] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/MCOujZ 
[10:58] <Trixar_za> Doesn't MTR act exactly like the generic traceroute command?
[10:59] <Kilos> ?
[10:59] <Kilos> run them both and see
[10:59] <Kilos> and tell me too
[11:00] <Trixar_za> Well, all MTR does is run a traceroutes and lists the hop points between the user and the end point he's tracing to, while showing the ping details for each hop point
[11:04] <Kilos> ok
[11:04] <Trixar_za> Looks like it has a github set up and a launchpad repository
[11:05] <Trixar_za> https://github.com/traviscross/mtr and https://launchpad.net/mtr/ respectively
[11:13] <Kilos> aha
[12:56] <superfly> so tumbleweed, what I actually wanted to ask you was, how do you backport a package into a ppa?
[15:06] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:40] <Kilos> superfly, please just advise, in the following command do i change the ip addy to my pc i want to share 3g from
[15:40] <Kilos> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/16 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:40] <Kilos> and the ppp0 to wwan0
[15:40] <Kilos> dunno why this modem shows up as wwan0
[15:41] <Kilos> or will that ip cover 192.168.1.1
[17:20] <magespawn> good evening
[17:21] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:21]  * Kilos was filling my face
[17:21] <magespawn> dinner time?
[17:21] <Kilos> my/his
[17:22] <Kilos> over now tummy full
[17:22] <Kilos> eyes wanna pull closed
[17:23] <Kilos> is your home network going yet magespawn ?
[17:23] <magespawn> no but i am moving one step closer at a time
[17:24] <Kilos> lol
[17:24] <Kilos> what you got some cat5 or wifi stuff
[17:24] <Kilos> i see they have cat6 now, i wonder what the improvement is
[17:28] <tumbleweed> superfly: depends. backportpackage, if you're lucky
[17:48] <Kilos> hi captine 
[17:55] <captine> hi there
[17:58] <Kilos> inetpro_, ping
[17:58] <Kilos> double job for you
[17:58] <Kilos> first fix your tail
[18:05] <gremble> o/
[18:05] <Kilos> ohi gremble 
[18:05] <gremble> How are you Kilos 
[18:06] <Kilos> googd ty summer is here, and you?
[18:06] <Kilos> good as well
[18:06] <gremble> I am well thank you. Keeping having to fish cockroaches out of the house because of the warming weather
[18:06] <gremble> So that sucks
[18:06] <Kilos> ai!
[18:07] <Kilos> we have none, i wonder what my sis uses
[18:08] <gremble> I live against the mountain. They like to breed in the foliage on the floor
[18:09] <Kilos> she says they sell cockroach houses she calls them , you shove them under stoves and cupboards and all hidden places
[18:09] <Kilos> she also sprinkles carbadust all over too
[18:09] <somaunn> hi Kilos 
[18:10] <Kilos> hi somaunn what did you break now
[18:10] <gremble> Ah ok. They're not really a problem, the cats eat them fast enough so they don't actually move in.  My sister just screams like someone is tearing her limbs off everytime she sees one
[18:10] <Kilos> hahahaha
[18:10] <Kilos> tell her rats are worse
[18:10] <somaunn> Kilos, nothing was just looking for more info on how to use mtr
[18:10] <somaunn> i found it very useful these last days
[18:10] <gremble> I am sure that they are
[18:11] <Kilos> whew somaunn just today someone said something about mtr
[18:11]  * Kilos scrolls
[18:11] <somaunn> yeah Kilos 
[18:11] <Kilos>  https://github.com/traviscross/mtr and https://launchpad.net/mtr/ respectively
[18:12] <gremble> Oh. I wanted to ask, has anyone updated to the latest KDE on Ubuntu/
[18:12] <somaunn> okay let me quickly jump there
[18:12] <gremble> There seems to be some memory issues
[18:12] <Kilos> 14.10 gremble ?
[18:12] <somaunn> gremble, not me 
[18:13] <gremble> Not sure of the version Kilos.  I just know that it is the latest one in their repos
[18:13] <Kilos> or just latest kde
[18:13] <Kilos> kde or kubuntu?
[18:13] <gremble> KDE
[18:14] <somaunn> cool kilos
[18:14] <somaunn> cool Kilos 
[18:14] <Kilos> the fly spoke about it a coupla weeks back
[18:14] <Kilos> hope that helps somaunn 
[18:14] <gremble> Kubuntu 14.04
[18:14] <gremble> The ram keeps spiking
[18:14] <gremble> It is unpleasent :/
[18:14] <Kilos> iirc he said kde5 am i right
[18:14] <somaunn> i've found the switches -u -e -n to add when using mtr 
[18:15] <Kilos> good somaunn 
[18:15] <somaunn> it gives more info than just using mtr itself
[18:15] <Kilos> and thats the dev guy so he will be the best to ask
[18:16] <somaunn> would be great if the dev could also somewhat include tracepath and make even better
[18:16] <gremble> Loads up to almost 1gb of ram use on startup :/
[18:16] <Kilos> ask him to consider it
[18:16] <gremble> I may have to switch to #!
[18:17] <Kilos> wow gremble 
[18:17] <Kilos> lets see what superfly has to say
[18:17] <Kilos> but he is rather busy it seems
[18:40] <superfly> "busy" is an understatement these days
[18:41] <superfly> I loaded up KDE Frameworks 5 and Plasma 5
[18:41] <superfly> they were nice, but still not 100% stable.
[18:41] <superfly> KDE itself is usually fine for me.
[18:41] <Kilos> gremble, you reading?
[18:41] <superfly> gremble: how much RAM do you have, and what graphics card have you got?
[18:44] <somaunn> brb
[18:51] <gremble> Sorry, I was getting ready to to to bed :P I have 4GB ram and Nvidia GT9400 or something in that regard.
[18:51] <gremble> Im running nvidia drivers
[18:52] <gremble> it is a 512 if I recall correctly
[18:52] <Kilos> are you experimenting?
[18:53] <Kilos> wasnt kubuntu working lekker?
[18:53] <gremble> No. Unity was causing shit, so I installed KDE
[18:53] <gremble> and removed unity
[18:53] <Kilos> lol
[18:53] <gremble> Now KDE is making my life difficult
[18:53] <Kilos> but kubuntu as it comes should work finw
[18:53] <Kilos> fine
[18:54] <Kilos> just a bit slower than unity
[18:55] <superfly> gremble: I have (now) 8gigs of RAM, but I used to have 3, and it worked fine
[18:55] <gremble> Hmm. I don't know what it is, because htop does not show high ram usage (besides kde-ui at 55%)
[18:56] <gremble> But something is leaking
[18:56] <gremble> because the longer my computer is on, the more ram gets used
[18:56] <gremble> Earlier it had almost filled swap as well
[18:56] <Kilos> ai!
[18:56] <superfly> sounds really weird, I've never had anything like that, and I've been running KDE since the 3.4 days
[18:56] <superfly> possibly even earlier
[18:57] <gremble> Then I suppose I will tear everything out and start from scratch to see what it could be
[18:59] <Kilos> can you turn off some of the stuff that runs from booting
[18:59] <Kilos> i forget what its called
[19:02] <Kilos> there was some command you can run to see what is using all the ram
[19:03] <gremble> I use htop, it is like windows' task manager
[19:10] <Kilos> ai! when i do that it tells me im not logged in
[19:11] <gremble> Dammit. Now have to change all my passwords again >.>
[19:12] <gremble> Anyway, I have to be off. 
[19:12] <gremble> Have a good evening fellows
[19:30] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:48] <inetpro_> good evening
[21:04] <superfly> hi inetpro
[21:04] <inetpro> eh, how goes superfly?
[21:05] <superfly> busy, as usual. counting down the days to friday
[21:08] <superfly> inetpro: hows things on your side of the country?
[21:08] <inetpro> hot
[21:08] <inetpro> we went from winter to summer
[21:09] <superfly> meh, still in the death throes of winter here... aka spring